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00:00:01.000The legendary Stephen Miller joins us about illegals voting in our elections, and we couple that with Wes Allen, who has a similar warning.
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00:01:25.000He is brilliant when it comes to all things immigration, and I want to talk about the SAVE Act and all the controversy around it.
00:01:33.000I want to start with Elon Musk's tweet.
00:01:35.000Quote, when combined with mail-in ballots, the system is designed to make it impossible to prove fraud.
00:01:41.000Mail-in and drop boxes should not be allowed, as cameras on the in-person voting stations would have at least prevent
00:01:48.000large-scale fraud by counting how many people showed up versus ballots cast.
00:01:52.000Wow. Elon Musk is spot on. And what's amazing is Elon Musk might have called that a fringe theory four years ago,
00:01:59.000and now the world's wealthiest man is trying to warn us about what's happening.
00:02:03.000Stephen Miller joins us now, America First Legal.
00:02:06.000Stephen, how many illegals do you think will end up voting this November in the election?
00:02:12.000Well, certainly more than would be the normal margin of victory in a battleground or swing state.
00:02:18.000I mean, if anybody's guessed what the upward limit is going to be, when you've added Probably all things considered, gotaways, apprehensions, unknowns, visa overstays, something like $15 million in the span of four years.
00:02:34.000But it's certainly going to be larger than the conventional margin of victories in swing states, you know, $5,000, $10,000, $11,000, etc.
00:02:46.000And so this means that since there's nothing that we can do, let me rephrase it, Passing the SAVE Act into law would require Senate Democrats to enact it, and it would require Joe Biden to sign it, right?
00:02:59.000So it is a fact that illegal aliens are going to be voting in this election.
00:03:05.000There's an affirmative obligation that the RNC has to litigate it relentlessly that every state AG has in a state that they're in charge of decides to prevent it, and we've sent a roadmap at America First Legal for how to do that.
00:03:19.000There is a need for every single officeholder, up and down, who has the ability to do so, to fight it, litigate it, and combat it.
00:03:27.000But the reality is that, take a state like, say, Michigan.
00:03:32.000Every single statewide officeholder in Michigan is going to be on the side of helping more illegal aliens.
00:04:08.000So my organization sent a letter to all 50 states, America First Legal, outlining what If they wish, they can do to purge illegal aliens from the voter rolls.
00:04:20.000And that involves a process of going to DHS, requesting access to databases, and then cross-referencing your voter rolls against those databases.
00:04:28.000And if DHS doesn't comply as required by law, then you have to take them to court.
00:04:33.000This all takes time, willpower, and energy.
00:04:36.000I've not yet received any confirmation from any state that anybody who is in a position to execute this plan has done so.
00:06:07.000And right now you're at a crisis point because the window, as I mentioned, to purge illegal aliens off the voter rolls in states, we do have at least one statewide office.
00:06:17.000So we have the governor's mansion in Nevada.
00:06:19.000We have complete statewide control in Virginia, which could easily decide the election.
00:06:24.000We have complete statewide control in Georgia.
00:06:26.000Texas is not a presidential battleground, but it's a House deciding battleground, absolutely, determines control of the House.
00:06:33.000And there's a competitive Senate race.
00:06:35.000So in state after state where we have control, that could control the balance of power in this country, no, we are not doing the job.
00:06:43.000And so it's important that everybody contact their state office holders and say, you have the legal ability today To demand DHS give you its databases of aliens and non-citizens, cross-reference them against your voter rolls, and purge all non-citizens from your voter rolls.
00:07:15.000The call to action then is, for example, Texas Secretary of State, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, is to cross-reference with DHS, foreign nationals... It really would be, yes.
00:07:28.000Secretaries of State, I mean, obviously the AGs will be litigating, but the Secretaries of State are the ones who need to be, or the governors, who can direct it to be done, like in Nevada, who need to be contacting DHS And saying, we need, one of the databases is called Save, S-A-V-E.
00:07:48.000But she said, we need access to the federal databases of known aliens in the country so that we can cross-reference it against our voter rolls and purge all the non-citizens from our voter rolls.
00:08:06.000That is something that could be done today.
00:08:08.000If my office doesn't cooperate, you take them to court.
00:08:10.000I believe that you will win very easily.
00:08:13.000So there you go, that's the call to action.
00:08:14.000So for example, the Secretary of State of Texas, let's take Texas, Critical State, Ted Cruz, whoever, can we find the name of the Secretary of State of Texas?
00:08:23.000Probably a dozen House seats up for grabs in Texas.
00:08:44.000Here's the other thing for your listeners at home to understand all this, is that this is not a solution, but it is part of it, which is that We have to also begin resigning ourselves to the fact that we're going to need to win by a margin that's too big to rig.
00:09:02.000In other words, everyone who's part of this process needs to start understanding the facts.
00:09:07.000Your real win, like honestly accounted, of 10,000 votes will not hold up in any swing state.
00:09:13.000In other words, if your actual honest victory is 10,000 votes, you will lose by at least 1,000 votes, right?
00:09:19.000So we need to now understand and internalize the margin of victory needed in every state Has to be significantly above their ability to write.
00:09:28.000Are you telling me that when somebody registers to vote in Texas, that Texas is not cross-referencing it to make sure they're a U.S.
00:09:36.000My understanding, and I don't want to single out Texas in the sense that there might be information I don't have access to, so I'll qualify it.
00:09:46.000But my understanding is that no state has done a systemic review of its voter rolls against the SAVE and other DHS databases, unknown and suspected aliens.
00:10:00.000To my knowledge, that has not been done.
00:10:02.000Remember, that has to be done after registration has occurred.
00:10:05.000The whole point is that current court rulings prohibit pre-screening for citizenship.
00:10:11.000That's the fraud built into the system.
00:10:15.000No state in the country is allowed to check if you're a citizen prior to becoming a registered voter for a federal election.
00:10:23.000So all of the work has to be done on the back end.
00:10:26.000I'm not aware of any comprehensive effort in any state to do that back end work.
00:10:29.000But let me understand, this is how easy it is.
00:10:32.000You can register to vote and lie and say that you're a U.S.
00:10:37.000And you could register to vote, get a mail-in ballot, fill it out, it gets counted in the election, and too bad, so sad, if 40,000 people do that in Arizona, it could determine the entire state of Arizona.
00:10:49.000Even more importantly, Even more importantly than that is the fact that, which goes back to the post you read at the beginning of this interview, is that not only can you do all the things you just said, but if the ballot is mailed in, the actual ballot itself is separated from the envelope and becomes untraceable.
00:11:10.000So if an illegal alien votes, the actual ballot, so when you hear about recounts, oh we recount, recount, recount, All you're doing is counting the same damn piece of paper.
00:11:22.000No name, no signature, no identifying information.
00:11:25.000You're literally just counting an oval that has been circled in.
00:11:30.000They separate the ballot from the actual envelope, so you will not even know that the illegal alien cast that vote.
00:11:45.000And the Republican Party... My message to everyone, because I do not, I cannot contribute, and I will not let myself contribute to an attitude of despair.
00:11:53.000My message to everyone is you have to demand that your elected officials act, number one.
00:11:58.000And number two, you have to accept the Everest you have to climb now.
00:12:02.000Every state needs to win by a margin significantly over 10K.
00:14:01.000Biden's arrogance is first on himself.
00:14:04.000Secondly, he does think that there are enough glitches and components in the machinery of how we do elections that it will be enough for him to be able to get another term.
00:14:16.000If there is such an overwhelming grassroots get out the vote operation, And for example, in that early voting period, election day is the last day of voting, if we do the work and chase ballots and register voters and get lower propensity or no propensity voters to vote in that early voting period, we give ourselves a fighting chance.
00:14:39.000And by the way, remember what Stephen Miller said.
00:14:56.000We got emails of people that were not able to vote because the machines went down.
00:14:59.000So, voting on game day comes with a risk.
00:15:01.000It's just the goofiness of our current system.
00:15:04.000Is, if the bad guys are able to Fraudulently fill out ballots and put them in the system and have them correctly counted, well then, why don't we put legitimate ballots into the system and have them counted?
00:15:21.000Is that, if there is somebody who is not going to vote, and they say, I don't want to vote, I'm asking you to fill in a piece of paper.
00:15:28.000Do you know that when Donald Trump fell 10,000 ballots short in Arizona, 10,000 ballots short that there were over 300,000 ballots that went unfilled in just the East Valley in Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler, Queen Creek.
00:15:47.000There were 300,000 Republican ballots that did not get submitted or filled out and we fell 10,000 ballots short.
00:15:56.000The greatest fraud in front of us is people that receive mail-in ballots in the mail that are Republicans and fail to fill them out and send them in.
00:16:06.000There are margins that they cannot account for because we do outnumber them.
00:16:13.000But it's going to require a grassroots operation of volunteers that we've never seen before.
00:16:18.000I had a man come up to me in Montana, who actually lives in Arizona.
00:16:23.000We spend our winters down in Queen Creek.
00:16:25.000I said, we're going to put you to work at Turning Point Action.
00:16:27.000I said, we're going to give you a list of a thousand voters, and you are going to politely and nicely harass them until they turn in their ballot.
00:16:34.000And you'll say, I'll stop knocking on your door when your ballot gets submitted.
00:16:39.000I'll stop calling you when your ballot gets submitted.
00:16:57.000And that is what the Democrats have done so well is they deploy hundreds if not thousands of these people in that early voting period and they will say you got to turn your ballot, got to turn your ballot, got to turn your ballot.
00:17:08.000We have never done any of that on the conservative side and that's exactly the ballot chasing army that we're hiring right now.
00:17:14.000Right now we have 60 full-time people being onboarded in Wisconsin alone.
00:17:18.000And you can join the citizen force and become a force multiplier in your community and your country.
00:17:24.000Right now is the phase of voter registration.
00:17:26.000That phase will come to an end in mid-September.
00:17:29.000It will become too late to register new voters.
00:17:31.000So right now it's a matter of increasing the supply of people we have on the voter rolls that could potentially vote by mail that are low-prop voters.
00:17:39.000And that's the work that we need to be doing every day.
00:17:41.000Wear the hat, go to the grocery store, engage in the conversations.
00:19:34.000Our team here in the office, lockstep, lock and arm, same philosophy, making sure that we have clean voter files, the cleanest in the country and making sure that non-citizens cannot be registered to vote.
00:20:09.000You know, I testified not long ago in the front of the U.S.
00:20:13.000Senate Rules Committee about the NVRA.
00:20:15.000I know we're going to probably talk about that later, but amending that, and I know that's what the SAVE Act does as well, Representative Roy's bill.
00:20:22.000So a lot of important topics in front of us.
00:20:24.000November 5th is quickly approaching, and we're working hard each and every day to secure elections.
00:20:34.000And add as much detail as you possibly can.
00:20:37.000So we got a complaint from a relative of a deceased individual, somebody that passed away.
00:20:45.000And they said, hey, we got this voter registration form from state Medicaid, and we're concerned about it because this person had been deceased over two years.
00:20:54.000And so that really raised alarm bells.
00:20:57.000It raised my Antenna up to to really kind of get to work and dig in and well we got that issue solved and figured out but it led to other questions and led us down another rabbit hole about all right well who else is getting these voter registration forms and what we come to find out Charlie that anybody that comes in contact with Medicaid or DHR in Alabama and of course they're under the NVRA as well the National Voter Registration Act
00:21:25.000But anybody that comes in contact with Medicaid and DHR, they receive a voter registration form, no matter if that person receives the public benefits or not.
00:21:35.000They may be turned down for the public benefits, but they're getting that voter registration form.
00:21:39.000And what that means is, and what we found out, is that Legal non-citizens, if they come in contact with these two state agencies, and illegal aliens, if they come in contact, they are receiving the voter registration forms.
00:21:52.000And that, to me, just, you know, when you couple that, Charlie, with the EO from Biden from March of 2021, when he basically mobilizes and weaponizes the entire federal government apparatus to become voter registration agencies, and really a turnout machine for the Democratic Party, it is really Shocking, appalling, and we're doing everything that we can under the Constitution and under our state laws and federal law to make sure we push back on this and to make sure that there are not any legal non-citizens or any illegal aliens that are registering to vote and voting in Alabama.
00:22:30.000So, how does the NVRA play into this, and why are the feds trying to control what happens in Alabama?
00:22:39.000Well, yeah, the NVRA was passed in 1993, and it really sets up a mechanism for agencies that are federally funded to act as voter registration arms.
00:22:54.000And that's one thing, in my opinion, that needs reform.
00:22:57.000And it's imperative that Republicans Of course, hold on to the House, win back the Senate, and then we put Trump back into office because we have got to reform the NVRA, take that part out of that, and to institute those changes that Representative Roy is talking about with the SAVE Act.
00:23:19.000So, apparently there's a four-year delay to cleaning the bad names off these rolls.
00:23:28.000It takes four years to remove someone from our voter files here, and that's for any state across the country.
00:23:36.000You know, obviously we can remove a deceased individual immediately once we get that information from our Alabama Department of Public Health, but if someone moves, if John Doe moves from Let's just say Tuscaloosa County, Alabama to let's just say another state and and
00:23:55.000It takes four years to put them on that process to remove them from our voter files here in Alabama, and that's just entirely too long.
00:24:02.000I testified to that in front of the U.S.
00:24:04.000Senate that said we need to bring that way down because voter file maintenance is the bedrock foundation of election integrity.
00:24:13.000If we don't start with voter file maintenance, it's just like playing football.
00:24:19.000You know, If you don't have a great offensive line or a great defensive line, you're not going to have a very good team.
00:24:24.000So voter file maintenance is the foundation and the bedrock of election integrity, and that's where it all starts.
00:24:31.000So, yeah, and I think that's exactly right.
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00:25:39.000And so here's what I don't quite understand, is that the states are supposed to be able to control their own elections.
00:25:46.000That is constitutionally very, very clear.
00:25:49.000How can the federal government tell you, as a state elected representative, as the states being ultimately sovereign when it comes to elections, who you can remove from your voter rolls and when?
00:26:01.000Well, unfortunately the NVRA has been litigated in federal court.
00:26:06.000And so we're up under those federal opinions from federal courts.
00:26:11.000But when they passed it back in 93, it has withstood challenges before.
00:26:16.000And so we are up under that, we're up under those opinions
00:26:19.000and we are operating within the confines of that law and those opinions.
00:26:24.000And, but believe me, for instance, we signed a memorandum of understanding with Tennessee,
00:26:29.000our neighboring state, as we have with Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Arkansas.
00:26:34.000Uh, but we've exchanged data on a bilateral agreement with Tennessee and we found over 80, over 8,000 individuals that are registered in Tennessee that are also registered in Alabama.
00:26:43.000And so we sent those individuals a letter and told them to remove themselves.
00:26:47.000You know, if it was a mistake, let us know, if not remove themselves.
00:27:19.000Why the federal government calls the shots over why you in Alabama should not be able to remove—you have to go through this long, drawn-out process.
00:27:28.000So let's go back to this idea now, it's expensive, of foreign nationals that are not American citizens potentially voting in our elections.
00:27:37.000So you said that the Alabama Medicaid agency was setting out registration forms that were shaky, to people that were suspect, is that correct?
00:27:50.000Not only did they send it to someone that was deceased, but we started asking questions.
00:27:55.000All right, we asked a series of about 12 to 14 different questions of not only Medicaid but of the Department of Human Resources.
00:28:02.000And they're authorized under the NVRA and also state law to send out those forms.
00:28:11.000So we asked a bunch of questions and come to find out, you know, anybody, like I said, that comes in contact with those agencies Uh, they received the voter registration form and that is something that we have got to change.
00:28:24.000And this is a federal program that could be giving medical aid to illegals and then registering them to vote.
00:28:29.000So let me just have a hypothetical here.
00:28:31.000If you were to be a whistleblower came to you and said, Hey, there are 100 foreign nationals in Mobile, Alabama that are registered to vote.
00:28:41.000Are you allowed to remove them immediately from the voter rolls?
00:28:44.000No, they would have to be a, um, In conjunction with the boards of registrars, and just the way we do things in Alabama, we have 67 counties.
00:28:52.000We have boards of registrars who take care and do the actual voter registration.
00:28:57.000In our office, we don't do the actual voter registration.
00:28:59.000We just oversee the centralized voter file and provide guidance and directives to these boards of registrars as it pertains to Alabama state law and federal law.
00:29:08.000So we would work in conjunction with the boards of registrars into Make contact.
00:29:15.000If we received a complaint of someone that may be illegally registered to vote because they're a non-citizen, either legally or an illegal alien, we would work very, very closely with those boards of registrars and start down that path to getting them removed.
00:29:33.000And what would be your call to action for every Republican Secretary of State or Attorney General to help fix this?
00:29:41.000Because this seems to be a very serious, looming problem.
00:29:44.000Well, listen, we've got a lot of great conservative Republican Secretaries of State and Attorneys General doing a lot of fine work and a lot of heavy lifting and working with their local elected officials that run the elections on the county level.
00:29:58.000And without them, we wouldn't have elections.
00:30:02.000I mean, Charlie, let me give you an example.
00:30:05.000We reached out to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services to gain a list of the legal non-citizens that are in our country because we wanted to have that list and run that against our voter file so we could remove any potential legal non-citizens that may have registered to vote.
00:30:30.000I represent over 5 million taxpayers in this state of Alabama.
00:30:34.000And we're going to continue that fight to gain access to that information.
00:30:38.000And also, we need access to the Social Security National Death Index.
00:30:43.000Free of charge, without any red tape, without having to jump through hoops to remove those individuals that have passed away, remove them instantaneously.
00:30:52.000Because if someone travels out of state on a vacation, and they pass away in another state, away from Alabama, that's that other state's information.
00:31:02.000So I'm telling you what, we've got to make some changes, and we've got to reform the NVRA, and we've got to keep pushing back on some of these things that Biden is doing.
00:31:59.000Keep in mind, that soundbite is supposed to be reassuring to those Democratic supporters who have gone wobbly.
00:32:05.000Many Democratic officials with whom I've spoken are worried that President Biden and his family and his inner circle appear to be in complete denial, not just about whatever might be wrong with him, but the state of his candidacy.
00:32:19.000Jake Tapper continues and says 72% of voters think that Biden is too old and that voters have been saying this for a very long time.
00:33:22.000COVID, masks, lockdowns, vaccine, school closures, fine people, suckers and losers, that Donald Trump wants you to take hydroxychloroquine or horse dewormer, ivermectin, that he wants you to inject bleach into your veins or drink bleach, The media lied about the Ukraine-Russian situation.
00:34:10.000What's going on here is that they say, oh my goodness, the American people see that we're complete partisan frauds.
00:34:17.000By the way, we've known that for quite some time.
00:34:18.000That's why shows like ours are growing.
00:34:21.000One top reporter said to us, this is an indictment of the entire DC press corps.
00:34:26.000Obviously, we've never treated you, trusted you for some time.
00:34:29.000By the way, I've been calling around to a lot of reporters that I know, and Andrew has too, they are now doing The most aggressive journalism that one can now do against the Biden regime, because this is a massive credibility crisis where they are trying to win back people's trust and favor, of which we all know that's not going to happen.
00:34:53.000Well, they're continuing trying to push him out.
00:34:58.000This is Don Quigley, Democrat representative, play cut 33.
00:35:03.000I know individuals that I've talked to who have been processing this, thinking about it, talking to their constituents, most importantly looking at polls.
00:35:12.000And again, none of them have anything but the greatest respect for the President.
00:35:18.000This is, and always will be, The most important aspect of this is that we can't allow a second Trump term, recognizing what that means.
00:35:30.000So it's going to be an amazing, unfortunately horrible week.
00:35:36.000And then Jim Clyburn now says, we are riding with Biden.