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00:01:43.000I have a different answer hour by hour.
00:01:46.000Earlier this week I was in Montana helping my friend Governor Gianforte, doing a great job, also trying to rally the troops to retire John Tester, a critical Senate race.
00:01:56.000I was asked, Charlie, do you think Biden remains?
00:02:00.000On Monday it looked as if Joe Biden had dug in.
00:02:03.000The siege was Decreasing in its intensity, and we thought he was staying.
00:02:10.000But in the last day, even more developments are now percolating to the top.
00:02:17.000Wednesday morning, George Clooney's op-ed was a big deal.
00:02:21.000Now, for those of us that are in the conservative world, for those of us that are raising families and going to church, What George Clooney's opinions of politics are is not just inconsequential, it's negatively interesting to me.
00:02:36.000However, remember we went through the five power centers of the Democrat Party, and one of them is Hollywood.
00:02:44.000In the Democrat coalition, George Clooney has as much power and as much credibility as if, for example, The head of the National Rifle Association during its heyday would have wrote that op-ed.
00:02:59.000That's how much power George Clooney has.
00:03:01.000George Clooney has fundraising capacity.
00:03:04.000George Clooney has clout within the Democrat Party.
00:03:09.000George Clooney has for quite some time been loyal to Joe Biden and loyal to the entire Democrat Party.
00:03:20.000And then Nancy Pelosi goes on mourning Joe, and kind of pitter-patters around the whole thing.
00:03:26.000I want Joe to do what Joe wants to do, and we'll see what happens this week.
00:03:31.000Democrats are continuing their siege against this White House.
00:03:35.000Now, I'm not exactly one to give advice here, but if they really wanted to get rid of Joe Biden, I could tell you exactly how they could get rid of Joe Biden, and it wouldn't be hard.
00:03:47.000And no, it wouldn't require the FBI or the CIA.
00:03:50.000It wouldn't require the Department of Justice.
00:04:08.000And they did this to Trump time and time again.
00:04:11.000How many times did you see Someone that worked in the orbit of Donald Trump resign and reappear a week and a half later with a book deal and a primetime interview talking about how Trump really is behind the scenes.
00:04:25.000If you really wanted to get rid of Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, if you really wanted to get rid of him, Here's what you do.
00:04:34.000You go raise some money from Reed Hastings or Reed Hoffman and your Democrat donors and you pass the hat around.
00:04:41.000You say, we need like a million bucks.
00:04:43.000We're going to go find a White House aide who has worked closely with Joe Biden.
00:04:49.000You peel them off, resigns, and they do a sit-down interview with a person of your choosing, Stephanopoulos, Lester Holt, Kristen Welker, and that aide, all the aide needs to say is, we have been covering for Joe Biden for the last couple years, and I can't live with myself anymore, and he has to resign.
00:05:13.000That right there would potentially end all of this.
00:06:07.000For their globalist imperialist project, they wanted to get rid of Bashar al-Assad.
00:06:13.000And they weren't totally upset about the Syrian civil war because it resulted in massive influx of Migrants to Europe, which has changed the political fabric of Europe permanently.
00:06:26.000Joe Biden is holding on as this siege continues.
00:06:32.000If you really wanted to get rid of Joe Biden, peel off one of his aides, pay him some money, get him a book deal, and say, tell us the truth.
00:06:41.000And he could write this book, The Big Lie I Can't Hold Any Longer.
00:06:57.000By the way, that person would not even be torpedoing his or her future career in Democrat politics.
00:07:02.000In fact, that person would be potentially celebrated in Democrat politics.
00:07:08.000I was up late last night listening to a Mark Halperin podcast.
00:07:11.000I've always found Mark Halperin to be super smart and very well-researched here.
00:07:18.000Mark Halperin, I think, leans to the left, but he has this new program called Two Way, where it's essentially a big Zoom call with a lot of—almost every single one of them is very, very engaged, incredibly well-read Democrat voters.
00:07:32.000I found it actually to be very easy to listen to.
00:07:34.000I'm going to listen to some more episodes.
00:07:36.000But he understands the pulse of the inner workings of the Democrat Party better than any reporter that I've seen in recent weeks.
00:07:44.000And he's very direct, and he's very clear.
00:08:25.000According to Mark Halperin, later on in the episode, Mark Halperin said if there was a secret ballot, if you want Joe Biden to remain or Joe Biden to go, it would result in 20% of people saying that we want Joe Biden to remain.
00:08:43.000One of the few voices considered close enough to Joe Biden to sway his decision has privately signaled to donors that, quote, he is open to dumping him as the nominee.
00:08:53.000This comes as Representative Pat Ryan, someone I've never heard of, becomes the eighth House Democrat calling for Joe to step down.
00:09:00.000Halperin, in this episode, Also gets why Pelosi matters.
00:09:05.000Other than Obama, she basically is the only other top Democrat who doesn't need to worry about backlash.
00:09:55.000They say, oh no, a Lester Holt interview, because they know if they can run out the clock enough, there's a virtual roll call nomination that gets Joe Biden on the ballot in Ohio, and then it's done.
00:10:06.000They have 10 to 14 days, but oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, there's one thing that might bail out Joe Biden.
00:10:13.000What is the news going to be all about next week?
00:10:15.000Trump hasn't chosen his vice president yet and there's something called the Republican National Convention where every credentialed media on the planet descends in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
00:10:28.000Are you ready to lose weight but not sure where to start?
00:11:41.000So what options do you have, if you're a Democrat party, if you can convince Joe Biden to get down?
00:11:46.000And a new national poll came out yesterday that Joe Biden is going to tattoo to his chest that showed Joe Biden tied or up one against Donald Trump in a national poll.
00:11:59.000Could be an outlier, but I think this race is much closer than people realize, especially given their infrastructure, their apparatus, their ballot chasing.
00:12:08.000I still give us a 50-50 chance of victory.
00:12:11.000Democrats are freaking out more about their chances than our side is celebrating.
00:12:16.000I want to give credit to our side before I play cut 104 about the Open Convention, which is our side is viewing this with almost shock and awe.
00:12:48.000That is the proper reaction to all of this.
00:12:52.000Democrats are the ones that are pulling the alarm because they know that the chances of them replicating what happened in 2020 is diminishing.
00:13:06.000Clooney called for an open convention.
00:13:09.000One of the things that's changed in the last day or two is the assumption that Vice President Harris either couldn't be talked out of wanting the nomination Or couldn't be expected to fight for the nomination at the convention that you would need to be coordinated.
00:13:33.000And I think if Joe Biden does step aside and Vice President Harrod wants to be the nominee, increasingly, again, this is a 180 flip for me.
00:13:41.000Increasingly, I believe it's more likely to be an open convention.
00:13:48.000Now, hilariously, the Democrats thought, the way that they were planning things, that it was gonna be Republicans that would have an open convention.
00:13:57.000Oh, Donald Trump will have all these felonies, Donald Trump will be facing prison time, DeSantis will be ascendant, the primary will be bitter and brutal, Nikki Haley will raise all this money, and Milwaukee will have the open convention.
00:14:12.000Now, it's more and more likely That if Biden collapses, and this siege is about to intensify, I have reporters that have texted me that are harmonizing with what Halperin has said, which is they have yet to drop the Moab, the mother of all bombs.
00:14:32.000And the Moab is a combo of Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton.
00:15:28.000You would have people booing the idea that One Nation Under God and the Pledge of Allegiance.
00:15:33.000You would have calls for post-birth abortion paid for by taxpayer dollars.
00:15:37.000I mean, you would have the most radical elements within the Democrat Party on full display.
00:15:43.000In Chicago, meanwhile, you got all the Gaza-Israel stuff still going on.
00:15:48.000If they can even hold back the... hold back the fences from the potential riots that are going to be happening in a redux of the 1968 Democrat Convention that happened in Chicago.
00:16:00.000The oligarchs of the Democrat Party are going to do everything they possibly can to prevent and to hold back an open convention.
00:16:12.000At an open convention, you could get Bernie Sanders as a nominee.
00:16:16.000At an open convention, you could get Elizabeth Warren as a nominee.
00:16:20.000At an open convention, there are no rules, and they release the beasts of the wild.
00:16:29.000And then you would have a non-stop speech carousel.
00:16:32.000Now, mind you, selfishly, for ratings, I would love to watch this.
00:16:38.000I mean, could you imagine our livestreams at night?
00:16:41.000Instead of having speeches every night, they would have a competition of who could be the most trans.
00:16:48.000You got Pete Buttigieg, you got Kamala Harris.
00:19:10.000So joining us now is an American hero, she's doing amazing, and Turning Point alum, Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna, who has been pushing forward on this inherent contempt vote with Merrick Garland.
00:19:59.000There was a legislative appropriations bill that actually went down, and that's one of our biggest bills that we do every year.
00:20:04.000And so I will say this, we've already refiled and I'm actually currently in talks with one of the members that has been a hard no on multiple contempt votes and so it's my hopes that we can get everyone on board and obviously we will be fully bringing this back up as soon as we get back.
00:20:22.000As you know, we're out for convention and then we return so we will be bringing this back up.
00:20:26.000Yeah, this is what I don't understand.
00:20:29.000So there's only so many work days, and I want to walk through the entire story.
00:20:32.000So does everyone understand, John Duarte from California, David Joyce from Ohio, Mike Turner from Ohio, and Tom McClintock from California, they couldn't be bothered to rebook their flights to hold Merrick Garland in inherent contempt?
00:20:46.000Well, they're actually there and voting.
00:20:49.000And I think, you know, these members, again, I am in talks with a few of them to get them on board with what we're doing.
00:21:02.000That were actually, I think the number is close to 11 Republican members were missing.
00:21:06.000As you know, Representative Massey, he had his wife pass away and Representative Mass had his father pass away.
00:21:12.000And so there were some members that were gone, but they will be back.
00:21:15.000And so those members, remember last night, between last night and tonight, the Democrats actually flew in people and we lost people.
00:21:22.000And so I believe that's actually why this went down.
00:21:25.000If you saw, it was by a very few votes.
00:21:28.000And also to remember, they actually put this vote midway and there were people leaving early for flights.
00:21:34.000And so I actually am going to be asking leadership to ensure that this is actually placed at the front of the pack for the next vote series, because sometimes this happens on flyout days.
00:21:45.000What is the significance of this inherent contempt vote?
00:21:48.000What would this mean for Merrick Garland?
00:21:50.000So it would mean that Merrick Garland is a not above the law, but also it would find him for defying subpoenas.
00:21:56.000You know, there's been it's crazy to me that the media has not linked this to really what happened with Watergate.
00:22:01.000And the fact that we've had in the Watergate situation, there were tapes that were being prevented from Congress was prevented from seeing.
00:22:09.000And obviously, that was used during impeachment.
00:22:11.000And ultimately, you know, the fact is, is that We have to ensure that the institution is protected and that people are not defying subpoenas.
00:22:19.000And that's what this is really all about.
00:22:21.000And I think the fact that Garland is getting a free pass, meanwhile Americans go to jail for less, is a huge problem.
00:22:27.000And so again, my Republican colleagues and also Democrats were unaware that this was a tool that has really been in the Jefferson's manual for a very long time.
00:22:37.000It was kind of forgotten since the 1900s.
00:22:40.000And so we are bringing it back and I do hope that one of those no votes will actually help me with the legislation and that we will get final passage on this when we return.
00:22:49.000So the no votes, I hope, you know, have a change of mind and a change of tune.
00:22:55.000And the process as it is fit, this is all very timely.
00:23:00.000Right now, Steve Bannon is in a federal prison cell.
00:23:30.000But is Merrick Garland currently above the law?
00:23:33.000Currently he is, and that is exactly what I'm trying to prevent, is there to be a two-tiered justice system.
00:23:39.000Again, if you could see what we were dealing with, and I'm sure you saw some of the floor debates last night, Charlie, but there was multiple attempts, not just by deep state actors, and I mean that, there were people that even before this came to the floor for the parliamentary procedures to even allow it to come to the floor, they were trying to kill this.
00:23:56.000They were telling members of Congress That the House had no legal standing, which was actually false.
00:24:01.000There's Supreme Court precedents for what we're doing.
00:24:04.000They were trying to convince members that this was not actually something that could be done and that the fine was unconstitutional, which is also false.
00:24:12.000Again, I actually faced the same pushback from the same people, actually, when we had the Adam Schiff vote.
00:24:18.000But again, members, especially every member, is going to vote their conscience.
00:24:23.000And I do believe that some of those no votes may have their reasonings for not doing really
00:24:30.000what the rest of us are doing, which is holding garland.
00:24:32.000However, it doesn't mean that they can't change their mind.
00:24:34.000And so I'm having this conversations, but what I will say is that we are in a very curious time
00:24:40.000in our country because we know that Trump is going to be to be taking the White House.
00:24:44.000Democrats are already making their exit plans.
00:24:46.000We're hearing Kamala Harris is actually considering a governor's run.
00:24:49.000And also too, we're hearing that Obama's team is increasingly trying to push Biden out.
00:24:54.000So you're actually seeing a massive riff.
00:24:55.000And then also this week, the Democrats that flew back in were not the ones that support Joe Biden.
00:25:01.000They were the ones that do support Joe Biden.
00:25:04.000And so you're seeing this come to, I think, the forefront.
00:25:08.000And again, going into convention, I think that a lot of people have something to consider.
00:25:11.000But remember, if we're in a truly free country, we need to establish that Congress is an equal co-branch of government.
00:25:17.000And so we can't have people undermine that.
00:25:19.000That's exactly what What is happening right now with A.G.
00:25:23.000And again, there's massive comparisons into what happened with the Watergate scandal, and I'm surprised the media hasn't picked up on that.
00:25:29.000So, would you say that Kamala Harris is thinking of running for governor of California?
00:25:34.000Yeah, actually, Kevin Kiley actually had posted that they were receiving words that she's actually considering that, and that she's already prospecting.
00:25:53.000But I'm also hearing that Joe Biden is now trying to pass something that would effectively treat Ukraine like a NATO country and prevent us from cutting off funding.
00:26:03.000And that's going to be something that he's doing by executive order.
00:26:05.000So he knows that he's leaving, and that Trump's going to mitigate and stop what's happening with Ukraine and Russia.
00:26:11.000And so he's making a last ditch effort to tie our hands.
00:26:15.000So let's kind of summarize all this together.
00:26:17.000Is leadership behind this inherent contempt vote?
00:26:21.000I think that leadership is behind it currently, as it stands.
00:26:25.000And I will say that I do hope that they continue to help push this towards the front of the pack on the next vote series.
00:26:32.000And I also hope that they have had all their questions answered, especially after the floor debate, where we actually destroyed the Democrats' arguments that this was not constitutional or could not be argued in the Supreme Court.
00:26:43.000Remember, Charlie, there's a lot of people up here, not leadership, but staff, That have been extremely problematic and that do intentionally every step of the way try to undermine and also get in the ear of the representatives, whatever it might be, whether it's saying that it's not accurate legislation or that there's no case law for it.
00:27:00.000And so again, if you guys could see what we were fighting just to get it to the floor, you guys would be shocked.
00:27:05.000But what I will say is that you saw the Republican body as a whole supports this.
00:27:09.000And we do want to fight for this country.
00:27:10.000We do want to establish us as an equal co-branch of government.
00:27:12.000So I look forward to working with one of those members, Leto Novo.
00:27:16.000And what I will say is that we're not stopping.
00:27:18.000I hope you guys continue to support those members of Congress that are trying to bring accountability to Garland.
00:27:24.000And what I will say is Garland, from what I know and I'm hearing, was absolutely sweating and he was actually continuing to call members, trying to convince them to take a walk.
00:27:33.000So just really quick, I have to you're doing amazing on it.
00:27:46.000Yeah, so I actually caught several that were intentionally lying to key people that advise members, saying that this wasn't constitutional.
00:27:56.000And I think that it's going to be appropriate for those people to be dealt with on the back end, and I'm going to ensure that that happens.
00:28:02.000But they are in very powerful positions, and have been in Washington for probably 20 years, and are in positions that advise the House legally, and that can't be tolerated.
00:28:13.000Yeah, and by the way, the power is in the staff.
00:28:22.000One minute remaining, Ana, for this audience.
00:28:24.000I'm gonna ask every person to please nicely call your representative and voice your conscience and that we need to get this passed.
00:28:33.000But more importantly, it's important that you guys are engaged because moving forward to a Trump presidency, which is going to happen, remember when Trump had his initiatives, it was Congress that had actually blocked a lot of what he wanted to do, and that was a Republican-held body.
00:28:49.000So there were people here that did not want to secure the border, etc.
00:28:52.000Since then, some of those people have not gotten re-elected, but it is really important that you guys know exactly who you guys are voting for.
00:28:59.000Get involved with ballot chasing operations, help out, and work at local precincts.
00:30:46.000I just registered three Trump supporters this afternoon.
00:30:50.000I was wearing one of my many Trump shirts this evening and I asked three of my employees who all said they loved the shirt if they were registered to vote.
00:31:53.000Every single person in this audience can do that.
00:31:56.000And if you're not comfortable getting into the details of registering voters, okay, let's say you go out to your favorite diner on Saturday morning to go get breakfast.
00:32:04.000Strike up a conversation with the waiter or waitress.
00:32:06.000You know that your tips will be tax-free if Donald Trump becomes president?
00:32:10.000When you go to the hardware store, if you go to the, if you go to the gun shop, when you go to get your hunter's license, be bold.
00:32:28.000While the Democrats are in a slow-motion collapse, while the media, for the first time in nearly 30 years, has the knives out for a Democrat president, this does not happen, everybody.
00:32:40.000We can watch this as spectators, or we can seize the moment and do the work.
00:32:45.000It is about action, action, action, as Steve Bannon would tell us.
00:33:13.000Even though I think that sometimes there are kind of artificial deadlines created by the media and by some politicians.
00:33:20.000I really do believe that by early next week, given the timing of everything, there'll either be a successful effort to convince him for his own good, not for the good of the country, for his own good, he needs to step aside.
00:33:33.000Joe Biden does not take well to any of this.
00:33:37.000You see, there's a Hill.com article, which is very important.
00:33:41.000In addition to what we believe is a clear pathway ahead for us, there's also no indication that anyone else would outperform Biden v. Trump.
00:33:51.000Hypothetical polling of alternative nominees will always be unreliable, and quote, this is from the Biden campaign, surveys do not take into account the negative media environment that any Democrat nominee will encounter.