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00:02:31.000I was going to say, I've met you in person once.
00:02:34.000It was brief because I am always running around like a crazy person at our events, but I saw you there.
00:02:39.000And it's great to have you on the show.
00:02:41.000This was something that we've Plan to do with Charlie because we were in touch just here and there, and I saw your journey play out.
00:02:51.000You have this new book, and it's Confessions.
00:02:54.000It's Nothing Left Confessions of a Democrat Operative.
00:02:57.000You raised over $50 million for Democrats.
00:03:01.000You've worked with people that people listening to the show will have heard of Abdul El Sayed.
00:03:08.000You worked with AOC's team, with Bernie's team, with Jasmine Crockett.
00:03:12.000You've at least Been around the same circles as Ilhan Omar, Jamal Bowman, Brad Lander, Cori Bush, Justice Democrats, and other DSA aligned PACs.
00:03:50.000I had a little baby boy in June of 2022.
00:03:53.000And after I had him, I decided to take a step back from fundraising and just focus on being a mom.
00:03:59.000And we can talk more later about how motherhood actually also helped reshape my political views quite a bit.
00:04:07.000But I decided in 2024, after it was apparent that Joe Biden would not be the nominee, to go to the Democratic National Convention in the hopes that I might see them remake themselves.
00:04:20.000At this point, I was already a little disillusioned, to say the least, just because all of the horrible experiences I had working for all of those people that you just mentioned.
00:04:32.000Um, you know, I went to the Dnc and I gave myself permission to be re-inspired um, but when I got there and I saw it in person, it was even worse than I remembered, and I knew at that moment that there was no way in hell Kamala Harris was going to win, and I actually ended up leaving night three of the Dnc right after Oprah Winfrey spoke and I write about this in my book.
00:04:59.000I left and I came home a day early, and when I got home, I decided that I was officially, truly done working in Democratic politics, and so I posted a video on tick tock.
00:05:11.000I thought it was only gonna go out to like 60 people.
00:05:15.000The people that I worked with followed me and I want it was basically my resignation letter and uh, instead I woke up and there was millions of views and Charlie Kirk dm'd me.
00:05:28.000Um, it was like people were talking about on FOX NEWS, like it was.
00:05:32.000It turned into this like totally whirlwind experience that I was not prepared for at all, So, I brought it up here.
00:05:40.000I have your book in front of me in PDF.
00:05:53.000But you mentioned that this was the culmination of very negative experiences you had with all those other candidates that had been kind of this cascade of bad stuff.
00:06:06.000Because, I mean, it's one thing politics is a lot of work, but I gather it's something more than that.
00:06:11.000It's like ideologically very negative.
00:06:13.000Yeah, you know, I started supporting, so I grew up in a union family.
00:06:18.000Like my mom's side of the family, they were all like union Democrats.
00:06:22.000My grandpa was like an elected official in the union, in the laborers, construction worker union, carpenters, bricklayers.
00:06:30.000And, you know, I grew up supporting Dems.
00:06:33.000And I got activated by Obama's campaign in 2008.
00:06:40.000The Affordable Care Act, the pre-existing conditions clause of it really helped me because I'm also born with a.
00:06:46.000Pre-existing lung disease similar to cystic fibrosis, and so you know, I thought that the Democratic Party fought for people like me, and over time I watched my own family members slowly turn against them, and at first it was confusing to me, but once I started working deeper in the progressive movement I had worked with establishment Democrats prior to 2018,
00:07:12.000but after Donald Trump was elected in 2016, I started working with more of the far left wing of the party, And I was really inspired at that time by Bernie Sanders' message, because he was the anti-establishment option in the Democratic Party.
00:07:32.000And I was frustrated with the establishment for, in my view, not really doing anything except for the status quo for people.
00:07:39.000And I blamed them for my family's disaffection.
00:07:43.000But once I got into Bernie's movement, you know, and I visited, I was actually with AOC and Bernie the very first day they ever met you guys, like the very first day.
00:07:56.000It was one month after she won her primary upset.
00:07:59.000It was their first joint appearance together.
00:08:03.000And, you know, at first, the progressive populist movement seemed good.
00:08:07.000It seemed like they were focused on economic populism.
00:08:11.000And then as it changed, it began to change with AOC.
00:08:15.000It began to change with Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar.
00:08:20.000And all of these, there was all these other issues that they started bringing into it, like defund the police.
00:08:28.000and abolishing ICE and all of this, you know, the trans ideology.
00:08:35.000And especially for me, it was the race politics, to be honest with you.
00:08:40.000Because, you know, I grew up in a working class family.
00:08:43.000I've lived in trailer parks, you know, growing up as a kid.
00:08:46.000And my mom and grandma still really, really struggle.
00:08:50.000And I would be in these Zoom meetings where I was expected to espouse my privilege to people and say that I was privileged just because of One aspect of me, which is my skin color.
00:09:05.000And then it just kept getting worse and worse.
00:09:08.000I'm reading a Wall Street Journal review of your book.
00:09:12.000And it says this gentleman says the value in Ms. Barker's memoir, other than the laughs, lies in its depiction of her party's biggest and least acknowledged problem, its guilt ridden donors and the web of cash flush activist groups, anti capitalist nonprofits, and issue oriented super PACs they sustain.
00:09:31.000Her book abounds with busybody advocacy groups, donor advisory networks, and consultancies run by know nothing 20 somethings.
00:09:40.000The donor aspect of the left wing apparatus is very fascinating to me.
00:09:45.000But, you know, I did bring up the race issue.
00:09:48.000Well, actually, they're completely tied in together.
00:09:51.000So, you know, starting, well, there were glimpses of this before 2020, but especially after 2020.
00:09:58.000I would say that the donor class, in conjunction with the consultant class in the Democratic Party, completely changed the leadership class of the Democratic Party by absolutely demanding full submission to these racial politics ideologies.
00:10:18.000And what I mean by that is I actually heard, and this is not something that was ever publicly announced, right?
00:10:24.000So the general public doesn't even know about this, but like George Soros's organization, for instance, they put out a pledge to only fund organizations in the Democratic Party that were led by people of color for five years,
00:10:41.000which is, I mean, I saw personally people that were turned down for jobs because, you know, the organization realized they needed to have like the right identity leading their organization or they would could be denied funding.
00:11:00.000And it just, it had a real systemic effect.
00:11:03.000You know, I myself, I, you know, was pressured at times, you know, there was a lot of social and peer pressure.
00:11:14.000I feel very bad about this, but you know I this book is called confessions of a Democratic Operative, so I have to confess my own sins too.
00:11:21.000Right I um, you know I was in positions of hiring and when I would get resumes, the very first thing I did is google their names on the internet to see what their race was, to see if they were a man, and if they were, I didn't set up interviews with them, and this happened all throughout the Democratic Party.
00:11:41.000There was a systemic push in the party To discriminate against white people.
00:11:47.000And it came down on high from the very highest levels of the party.
00:11:52.000That is not only racist, it's just so bad.
00:11:59.000And so I can imagine you wrestling with this because, on the one hand, you're like, I like that I could get health care because of what Obama did, which I can acknowledge in your personal position, you could appreciate that.
00:12:13.000And yet it comes with all this other stuff.
00:12:28.000Still another, an heiress to an oil fortune, lavishes money on left wing groups, Ms. Barker reasonably surmises, to try and right her family's wrongs.
00:12:37.000The way you paint it, it's just so systemic and so unspoken that you don't even need a written rule somewhere or policy somewhere.
00:12:45.000It was just the culture and continues to be the culture of the left.
00:12:51.000You said that the Democrats learned the wrong lesson from Obama.
00:12:55.000And they completely turned instead of to uniting race, you know, I guess colorblindness, as Obama kind of put it, they turned to identity politics.
00:13:07.000Yeah, they believed that they could recreate his coalition by going towards a demographics as destiny idea.
00:13:17.000And so to me, what that always meant is that they no longer felt like they needed to win back the white working class.
00:13:25.000people like my family in the middle of the country.
00:13:27.000And honestly, they didn't want to win those people back either because they thought that they could just continue winning by appealing to young people and people of color.
00:13:39.000Well, you know, as we saw in the 2024 election, a lot of young people ended up voting for Donald Trump and so did a lot of people of color because the reality is, is that the white working class and working class people of other races actually share a lot of the same values.
00:13:57.000And for some reason, the Democrats don't understand this.
00:14:01.000It's part of the reason they have this obsession with flipping Texas.
00:14:04.000Even though they're not going to flip Texas, they think Texas is more valuable in working towards than a place like where I come from in Missouri, where more recently they elected a Democrat to statewide than in Texas.
00:14:16.000And it's because they know that they would need to moderate in order to win Missouri.
00:15:13.000And the projection from the left is that we're all a bunch of racists.
00:15:17.000You saw that Jasmine Crockett quote from just this week with the Smithsonian hearing talking about this was a white pride rally at the Congress.
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00:17:36.000Now joining us is Michael Watley, former chair of the RNC, and now he is the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate from the great state of North Carolina.
00:17:55.000You are running a very, very important race as we look towards the midterm and how the shape of the Senate is going to take form.
00:18:04.000And we want to make sure that we're getting the word out.
00:18:07.000And I think you have hit the nail on the head with this messaging on crime, especially in North Carolina.
00:18:13.000It is so critically important that we're locking criminals up that are violent, that are going to hurt innocent Americans in North Carolina, because it's become ground zero for some of the most radical left wing policies you can imagine, especially on the crime front.
00:18:58.000He's fighting for men who want to play in girls' sports and go in women's locker rooms.
00:19:03.000And this is what he's been fighting for his entire career.
00:19:06.000And when we start that conversation talking about the criminals, and you think about Roy Cooper, who was the worst governor in the history of North Carolina, which is a pretty low bar, but he is the worst governor that we have ever seen, the most pro criminal governor that we've ever had in North Carolina.
00:19:24.000And this is a guy who, back in 2020, when BLM and Antifa were out there burning down our cities, did he call in the National Guard to put down those riots?
00:19:34.000He took off his COVID mask, he raised his fist.
00:19:37.000And he went out and he marched with them.
00:19:38.000You know, this is a guy who set up a revolving door to put criminals back on the streets again 20 times, 30 times, 40 times, 50 times or more.
00:19:46.000As soon as the paperwork was done, they're back on the streets, usually before the police officers are even back on the streets.
00:19:53.000And of course, he released 4,200 criminals, 4,200 hardened criminals that were released out of North Carolina's prisons because he didn't want them to get COVID.
00:20:04.000And we're talking about the worst of the worst pedophiles, rapists, murderers that he put on the streets.
00:20:12.000700 of them had committed felony assault, aggravated assault, sexual assault, assault with a deadly weapon.
00:20:18.000Rape, you know, 51 of them had committed, had been serving life sentences.
00:20:23.00080 of them had committed murder that Cooper put back on the streets.
00:20:26.000And as soon as he put them there, what do you think happened?
00:20:30.000They went right back to a life of crime.
00:20:34.000And 2,200 of them have been rearrested since he put them back on the streets.
00:20:39.000We've seen hundreds of them have committed violent felonies.
00:20:44.000And it's really sad to say, 99 of them have committed sexual crimes.
00:20:48.000So we're talking about rape, we're talking about sexual assault, we're talking about Child pornography charges, 99 of the worst, and 25 who've gone on to commit murder since Roy Cooper let him out there.
00:21:01.000Probably the most famous one on that list is a guy named DeCarlos Brown Jr., who got rearrested and re released 13 more times before he got on a light rail car in Charlotte, North Carolina last summer and brutally murdered Irena Zarotska, a beautiful Ukrainian refugee who had her whole life ahead of her.
00:21:21.000And Roy Cooper's got blood on his hands.
00:21:23.000I wish that that story was the end of it, but there are 24 other families.
00:21:27.000Who are going to have an open seat at the kitchen table every Christmas, every Easter, every Thanksgiving going forward because Cooper put those criminals back on the streets.
00:21:37.000It's the most dangerous, reckless, and stupid decision ever made by a governor in North Carolina history.
00:21:44.000Yeah, but sure, let's give him more power.
00:21:46.000Let's just keep rewarding failure and give this guy a seat in the U.S. Senate.
00:21:51.000It's obscene to me, but I have to, like, you know, and by the way, let me just say with Arena Zarutska, this was just before Charlie was killed.
00:22:01.000And he famously said, We have to politicize what happened to Rena Zarutska because it was politics that let her get killed in the first place.
00:22:10.000It was politics that let DeCarlos Brown Jr. out on the street to go hurt and kill more Americans, and in this case, a Ukrainian refugee who was innocent.
00:22:21.000And it's infuriating to me, and I think infuriating to a lot of Americans, that this is what Democrats stand for.
00:22:27.000They don't care about law abiding people getting murdered and maimed in the streets.
00:22:32.000Because they think racism, they cry racism.
00:22:36.000And in this case, Roy Cooper is just a white guilt, weak minded Democrat from North Carolina.
00:22:43.000And I will never understand, Mr. Whatley, why on earth North Carolina will send people or Republicans to D.C., but they'll elect somebody like Roy Cooper at the state level.
00:22:55.000I will never understand what's going on with the politics in that state, but we got to get you over the finish line.
00:23:12.000You know, we're 30% Republican, we're 30% Democrat, we're 38.5% unaffiliated, which is our version of independence, and 1.5% other.
00:23:21.000So every race that we have here is going to be really close.
00:23:24.000And the way that that has tended to manifest itself over time is Democrats win governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and Republicans win Congress, Senate, and the president.
00:23:35.000So, you know, we carried the state three times for President Trump.
00:23:38.000I was, you know, I ran the state for him.
00:23:41.000In 2016, and I was the state party chair in 2020, and then the RNC chair in 2024.
00:23:47.000But in all three of those wins, they were very narrow, and the Democrats took the governorship in all three of them.
00:23:53.000So we are a purple state, but we, you know, when you think about who those voters, those swing voters in the middle, are going to vote for, they are generally, you know, college educated, they're generally suburban, and they hate crazy.
00:24:08.000And so they voted against Kamala Harris.
00:24:10.000And I think that that's really important to know.
00:24:12.000And they're going to vote against Roy Cooper because he was the worst governor in the history.
00:24:22.000We can talk about illegal immigration.
00:24:24.000This is a guy who supported sanctuary cities.
00:24:26.000This is a guy who vetoed legislation multiple times that tells sheriffs that they have to honor ICE detainers and get violent criminal illegal aliens the hell out of North Carolina.
00:24:36.000So he has a track record that he's done everything he can to run away from.
00:24:41.000I always like to point out that candidate Cooper really doesn't like Governor Cooper and all the things that he did.
00:24:47.000When he's trying to talk about being a moderate right now, you know, he's just an absolute wrong fit for people in North Carolina.
00:24:54.000He'd be better off running in California, New York, or Illinois.
00:24:58.000Yeah, well, that's what's interesting about North Carolina because you do, I think you're right.
00:25:01.000I think the vast majority of North Carolinians hate crazy, but then you have these pockets, these blue pockets around all those universities where the most radical ideas are festering, are taking root, and you get these radical activists in your state that skew some of this statewide politics.
00:25:37.000Well, there's the economy, you know, and the fact is that over his 40 year career, you know, career politician Roy Cooper, he consistently fought and made things more expensive.
00:25:48.000You know, so housing prices up 85% while he was the governor.
00:25:52.000Health care costs, health care premiums up 183% while he was the governor.
00:25:57.000Meanwhile, he's taking $400,000 from health care companies and executives for his campaign here, cozying up and saying he's going to get tough on them.
00:26:07.000Rather ridiculous what he's looking at there.
00:26:10.000But the fact is, you're right, that Charlotte, that Raleigh, that Durham, these are deep blue cities where we do have a very aggressive, radical Democratic base that is pointing it out.
00:26:23.000But the Democratic Party itself has lost over 350,000 registered voters over the last 10 years because people are walking away from that party.
00:26:32.000And the fact is that they know that that's not the party that they grew up with and it's not a party that they can support anymore.
00:26:39.000You think about Roy Cooper vetoing the Parents Bill of Rights.
00:26:42.000Who vetoes the Parents Bill of Rights?
00:26:44.000He vetoed legislation that would have prevented transgender mutilation surgeries.
00:26:49.000This is a guy who voted and fought for putting boys and girls' sports in place.
00:29:22.000Well, this is, you might, it might stir something in your, like the deep recesses of your brain as I describe this to you.
00:29:30.000So this is, this is a story we used to see a ton of first Trump year, the first peak woke era.
00:29:35.000And this is one of, it shows how things have changed.
00:29:39.000So Shiloh Hendrix is a woman, she's 37 in Minnesota, and she was the subject of a viral video last year where basically, She was, I believe, at a playground, kind of in a public spot.
00:29:52.000And this Somali child, about nine years old, who had an ankle monitor because they had a habit of wandering away.
00:29:59.000I guess their parents couldn't take great care of them.
00:30:03.000And this child was like bothering her, bothering her kid.
00:30:07.000And let's be frank, it was not her best moment.
00:30:51.00090 day jail sentence, and she has to do 200 hours of community service.
00:30:55.000So, not the worst miscarriage of justice ever, but people are reacting to this, and we should react to it because, let's be real, this is Minnesota, so we already have infinite Somali fraud.
00:31:12.000There's a lot of crimes that go down in Minnesota that they're basically ignoring, and on top of that, no one would ever be prosecuted for, let's be frank, calling a white person a racial slur on a camera.
00:31:23.000That's called riding on a subway a lot.
00:32:16.000We're not endorsing what she did, but we also can understand it.
00:32:21.000This nine year old apparently was wearing an ankle monitor.
00:32:24.000I haven't fact checked this, but I've seen this in a number of the social media posts.
00:32:27.000This kid, either way, was on the loose, being an absolute, I would say, menace to society and this public place, this space, by the way, which is a larger theme that we need to talk about and we will talk about more, how America's public spaces, which are free, Have been overrun by migrants, by criminals, by people that are transgressive and antisocial.
00:32:53.000So if you think about the latchkey kids, the free range kids of the 70s and 80s and 90s, that world has been evaporated because of little Somali kids like this who's harassing this woman while she's trying to hang out with her kid at the park.
00:33:08.000And so the American dream becomes a luxury.
00:33:11.000People like Shiloh can't go to the park anymore because they get harassed by little miscreants like this Somali kid.
00:33:55.000If you're in one of these jurisdictions, like, you'll have, like, antisocial personalities will harass people, get in their face, like, deliberately trying to provoke them because if they react in any way, they'll feel justified in, like, punching them in the face.
00:34:10.000There was a case, I believe this was in Oregon, where someone, like, basically got attacked and then they testified, well, they called me the N word during the attack and they got acquitted for the assault for that reason.
00:34:23.000Like, we will not have our diverse multicultural society survive if we have two standards of justice, two different expectations for people in this country.
00:34:35.000Everyone has the First Amendment right, period.
00:34:37.000You can't make an example out of someone because you're desperate to prosecute someone who's a 30 something white woman, a Karen, as they would like to say.
00:34:47.000Yeah, I think this is just a pure, unadulterated example of anti white discrimination.
00:34:54.000That has been legalized in our judicial system.
00:34:58.000I think the best point, Blake, that you made, and it's worth repeating, is that when we go on the subway, we go on public transportation, we go to a park, and we're called a racist slur, we're called a cracker, or whatever they want to call us, that doesn't count for anything in this country.
00:35:15.000And nor should it, by the way, unless it is like an aggression to start a fight or something like that.
00:35:22.000Maybe then you could make an argument.
00:35:24.000But the point is, that's not what she was doing.
00:35:26.000The guy provoked her, she said the word.
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00:36:00.000It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, False comforts and impossible choices on his long journey home.
00:36:09.000As one of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology.
00:36:14.000It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home.
00:36:22.000In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home.
00:36:30.000His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory.
00:38:40.000Flock cameras, they're a kind of early iteration of technology we're going to be seeing a lot more now.
00:38:45.000Their cameras, we've always had cameras, but what flock cameras are is they add this AI element to them where they build them and they put them in spots and they can track where cars are going and they can log the license plate automatically.
00:38:58.000They can log the make and model of the car.
00:39:01.000They can log which direction the car is going and send it all to a database.
00:39:06.000And you can see how this would be pretty useful to law enforcement because basically, like, they can have a crime happen and they can be like, oh, there's reports of this.
00:39:18.000Of maybe a certain type of car, go to the database and bam, they don't need to go and manually watch a ton of footage, which used to be that limit on how much security footage you could have, is someone would have to go watch it.
00:39:28.000Now, it's like there's an AI robot watching it, and they can just collect way more data and use way more data.
00:39:36.000And the claim for this is it will let them fight crime.
00:39:44.000Yeah, it tracks people whether they're doing stuff.
00:39:46.000So, regular traffic cameras obviously only scan you or take pictures of you when you commit a crime of some sort.
00:39:55.000This will scan every car that goes by, no matter what.
00:39:58.000So, the police can literally be like, Show me every black F 150 that's driven past this street in the last day, and it'll show them like a long list of stuff.
00:40:06.000Which I mean, I could see down the line, this could get a little scary depending on how they expand it.
00:40:13.000So, that's really the concern is how is this going to be built out from here?
00:40:19.000But I don't see like, so this is being implemented, but like, ShotSpotter in like Chicago was all taken away.
00:40:25.000Like, I feel like that was much better technology that actually can be used to solve stuff.
00:41:09.000And here's my kind of basic, you know, thought on it is like, I just don't trust tech companies at all.
00:41:16.000And, you know, there are, there are pay, you know, there's a cost to freedom and liberty, right?
00:41:23.000And I think you have to weigh all those things in the balance.
00:41:26.000My general disposition towards it is I'm very skeptical because tech companies have proven that they don't always put America first, right?
00:41:34.000If they're willing to give up their H 1Bs, maybe I'll, I'll be able to be more sympathetic to you.
00:41:39.000That's basically my general disposition.
00:42:07.000There was a very sinister thing when January 6th happened where a lot of Facebook data ended up getting leaked out to the press to basically cover the movements of people who were allegedly present at January 6th.
00:42:20.000And then they were profiling people and doxing them even before they were actually charged with any crimes.
00:42:25.000And so, where I can feel like this is ominous is it just seems frightening for any government apparatus to have that amount of information about what people are doing and where they're going.
00:42:41.000You're having, let's say we had a COVID type thing, and when they were saying you shouldn't be assembling for religious services, what if they were just starting to track every car that was going in the direction of where that church was, even if they didn't have people monitoring it?
00:42:57.000And then at that point, oh, you can track every single person who's a member of this church because you can sense who's going to that church every Sunday.
00:43:04.000It creates such a way for if you're the FBI and you're deciding, like when they were monitoring Latin Mass as a thing, you suddenly are just building data.
00:43:13.000So here's everyone we know who's going.
00:43:15.000Who's driving to this church that does the Latin Mass, which we've decided is this extremist threat?
00:43:20.000It's a little too much information for the government to just be passively collecting at all times.
00:43:27.000And I can definitely understand why that worries people.
00:43:30.000Well, it's also because you can't tell me that you're trying to solve crime when, like, in Chicago, you get rid of ShotSpotter, which actually helps solve crime, but then you're okay with flock being put in.
00:43:40.000It's like you can't really tell me that your only concerns are crime when you haven't really done the first steps to actually solving the crime.
00:43:49.000Yeah, I mean, a lot of liberal cities are taking them out right now.
00:43:56.000So, LAPD suspended use, Mountain View, California suspended use or disabled it.
00:44:14.000There are people who will get away with murder because we don't have these.
00:44:19.000And so that's a calculation you need to make how much information are you willing to give government for the sake of having people not be murdered?
00:44:28.000And that's, I mean, Benjamin Franklin pointed out that dilemma.
00:44:54.000First, bring back ShotSpotter because there's nothing wrong with ShotSpotter.
00:44:58.000And then, before we decide to have the panopticon to punish all crimes, how about we just actually punish crimes?
00:45:05.000So, if you're going to have a vagrant on the subway who's terrorizing people, antisocial behavior, people doing these petty assaults, and then everything that hurts dropped, let's try stopping crime by punishing the crimes that we actually get.
00:46:14.000So, color revolution that comes from if you look at history, there's a lot of revolutions in other countries, and they love to give a color to them.
00:46:22.000So, they're the Jasmine Revolution or the Orange Revolution, I think was one in Ukraine.
00:46:27.000And it sort of describes these popular uprisings where there's a bunch of people rallying in the square, and then stuff happens, and the government loses support, and then the president has to flee in disgrace or whatever.
00:46:42.000What was so cool about is how Darren, and I think Mike Benz was also an expert on this, as he'd lay it out, is how there's this is not really a purely popular activity.
00:46:51.000It's a way of laundering a political change that often powerful people want to have happen.
00:46:56.000So you'll have people in the square, and does a bunch of people rallying in a square mean that there's a popular mandate to change the government?
00:47:04.000Like you can put 20,000 people in a square as a tiny minority of a country, even if it looks really impressive in person.
00:47:10.000And so, as an example, that Orange Revolution in Ukraine.
00:47:13.000You have tens of thousands of people in Kiev who say the government's bad, but the government's base of support was in the eastern part of the country.
00:47:22.000But then they're demonstrating, you have media coverage, and then if they start, maybe they start demonstrating, they start pressuring the police.
00:47:30.000And if the police ever shoot, you go, The police have fired upon the peaceful protesters.
00:47:34.000This government has lost legitimacy, and you stoke it.
00:47:39.000You stoke NGOs to say this government must go.
00:47:42.000And eventually, government falls from power.
00:47:46.000And now, I don't think we're in that in the U.S. right now, but that is a pretty good characterization of a lot of the phenomena that went into.
00:47:54.000The 2020 election, as an example, where Donald Trump was mounting a legal challenge to how things had gone down in the states, and this was presented as an unforgivable offense to overturn democracy.
00:48:06.000You had law firms who would refuse to represent his legal challenge, and then after J6, you had them shutting down his bank account and they're turfing out Parlor and all of this.
00:48:17.000On top of that, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, there was just a lot of para state actors, not the government, not really.
00:48:58.000You had the Tulip Revolution, the Rose Revolution, and a lot of international actors assumed that USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, Open Societies Foundation, coordinated with NGOs and international press outlets, would cause these regimes to fall in order to build up and expand the influence of NATO, the EU, that sort of thing.
00:49:19.000Those same actors that orchestrated that are deeply embedded within the NGO structure in the United States, and they have absolutely used this same formula against President Trump.
00:49:30.000And I think George Floyd is probably the single greatest example that we have in 2020.
00:49:35.000But you could also look at the anti ICE riots.
00:49:38.000That's why there's so much money and so much coordination on the NGO side because they want to spark at least the optics that there is a popular uprising against an unpopular president.
00:49:49.000And so they use wedge issues or they use events that they think they can then garner a lot of attention with, right?
00:50:01.000Uh, the her when she was killed, uh, basically being a lunatic in a car in Minnesota, uh, protesting ICE.
00:50:09.000That's that we're not happy that she got killed, but we're not happy she got killed.
00:50:14.000But at the same time, there's a reason she was killed because she was disobeying police and she was being a maniac.
00:50:20.000Well, no, even just get beyond that, that ended up being used.
00:50:22.000They tried to use, yeah, go ahead, they tried to use Renee Good to just basically say, because this one incident happened in one city, we don't have we can't have ICE, we can't have deportations.
00:50:35.000And I think in 2019, 2020, it would have worked.
00:50:39.000We've gotten better at our defenses against these tactics.
00:50:43.000So the right was able to say, as you said, Andrew, it's sad that that woman died, but we actually knew to say, this is what they wanted.
00:50:51.000The left want these people to get out there, put themselves in danger, cause friction where someone panics or someone makes a mistake and someone dies, and use that to overturn our laws.
00:51:02.000You have to recognize what they're doing and basically call them on their BS.
00:51:45.000All across the country CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, they all cover it wall to wall and they make a huge deal about this.
00:51:54.000Whether or not there's popular support for it or not, there's enough.
00:51:57.000And this is why when you hear clips like, and we should actually pull this clip from like Rachel Maddow, where she says, you only need three and a half percent of really dedicated population to get behind these revolutionary tactics to be true believers and you can overthrow the government.
00:52:12.000Because the belief and the theory is that they can project.
00:52:19.000A popular support for a movement with three and a half percent, whether that's the No Kings rallies, the media coverage, or whatever.
00:52:25.000And I can't underscore this point enough.
00:52:27.000The same people that orchestrated a lot of this in the Eastern Bloc are now domestic activists.
00:52:35.000They are working in the NGO system trying to take down President Trump.
00:53:31.000And remember, YRefi doesn't care what your credit score is.
00:53:34.000Just go to YRefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you.
00:53:41.000We have that clip I was talking about, which I think is so important.
00:53:44.000We're talking about color revolutions, Blake and Danny.
00:53:47.000And I think to assume that people like Rachel Maddow are not in on the shtick, are not in on the game that they're playing, would be naive and foolish.
00:54:11.000I mean, in political science terms, there's what's called the 3.5% rule, which is that if you look at authoritarian regimes of various kinds all over the world over the last, like, century,
00:54:25.000once you have 3.5% of a population, Protesting nonviolently against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force that they can't oppose and that precludes them from consolidating dictatorial power.
00:55:17.000Listen, I just want an assessment from your point of view, from the 30,000 foot point of view, on the condition of the MAGA America First movement.
00:57:04.000We're doing, frankly, a lot more good than we did in the first Trump administration.
00:57:08.000And so I think as long as people like us keep highlighting that, I think, and as long as the left keeps careening into the abyss on democratic socialism, there's going to be continued, going to continue to be reason to support MAGA.
00:57:22.000And I think a lot of these people will come back and realize that, especially as we get.
00:57:37.000There's an unreal expectation that Trump was going to come in and within like the first year or two, suddenly like transform everything, which is just not possible.
00:57:45.000And I don't think they really understand that like the Senate actually has to pass stuff.
00:57:58.000Appointees are not getting passed and confirmed.
00:58:01.000And Trump's like almost taking the fall for the Senate's failures.
00:58:05.000And I think the main problem was this unreal expectation that he was going to come in, kind of be this dictator that they wanted, and then suddenly transform and fix all of these problems within the first year or two, which is not realistic.
00:58:19.000And then you take that and you also add in the Epstein stuff and like bad PR, and it just compiles on each other where they're kind of just like, we don't care anymore.
01:00:14.000You've got the plan trusters, the trust the planners.
01:00:16.000This would be like, if the neocons like a Ted Cruz or a Lindsey Graham, the plan trusters would be like, I don't know, a Michael Knowles or a lot of people put Turning Point in this group.
01:00:27.000I don't think that's a fair characterization all the time, but that's in people's collective minds, that's what they think.
01:00:32.000This would be like a Matt Walsh that really wants to hold the administration's feet to the fire, but he's never going to vote Democrat, right?
01:00:39.000Then you've got the small L libertarians.
01:00:41.000We had the redheaded libertarian Josie on the show, for example.
01:00:45.000These are people, and she warns about this, that will become disenchanted, right?
01:00:50.000When we saw Thomas Massey didn't win reelection, they could opt out.
01:00:54.000The small L libertarians could opt out of running.
01:00:57.000And then on the far end of the scale, you've got the accelerationists.
01:01:01.000The accelerationists want to burn it all down.
01:01:05.000They don't want you to vote for President Trump or anybody he endorses because they want to burn the party down and rebuild it in their image in an ideologically pure manner.
01:01:44.000The neocons want to pull the plan trusters over to their side and the dissidents, and the accelerationists want to pull the small L libertarians and the dissidents over to their side.
01:02:57.000Every time you have Tyler on, I'm like, I love listening to this guy, right?
01:03:01.000Because he's actually kind of what got me into Turning Point to begin with.
01:03:04.000Charlie's great, but Turning Point action is action oriented, which is what I love.
01:03:11.000So, number one, do we have a plan to get rid of these scumbag rhinos?
01:03:19.000And you don't have to give it to me over the air, but I'm just curious if when you guys do your meetings, is there a plan and do you have it mapped out to get rid of these guys?
01:04:12.000I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend.
01:04:16.000And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage, it was what was behind the scenes.
01:04:23.000That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction.
01:04:32.000Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize, he didn't put it in a box.
01:04:38.000It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day.
01:04:43.000Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart.
01:04:46.000This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie.
01:04:49.000It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested.
01:04:58.000I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together.
01:05:20.000And the short answer to that, and I know Blake's got a lot of thoughts here, is we are doing it, and it's happening more slowly than anybody would like, of course, but it's happening through retirements.
01:05:31.000It's happening through, in the case of Lindsey Graham, I hate to say it, through his death.
01:05:36.000And then it's happening through primaries, the way it's supposed to happen, more than it's happened in a long time, as a matter of fact.
01:05:42.000The party is substantially more conservative.
01:05:45.000Than it was just five years ago, than it was 10 years ago.
01:05:48.000And that's a lot thanks to the work that we're doing at Turning Point Action.
01:05:51.000But, Blake, why don't you expound on that?
01:05:57.000And he mentioned, what can we do to get rid of them?
01:05:59.000And the struggle with the Senate always is they have six year terms, and incumbents are powerful, and they can just stick around a very long time.
01:06:05.000And we say the House has improved one election at a time, and the Senate improves one election at a time, but it takes a while.
01:06:13.000We just had Watley on, who's running in North Carolina.
01:06:16.000He's going to be, if he wins, he'll replace.
01:06:18.000Tom Tillis, who's been a very frustrating Republican on issue after issue and on a bunch of key nominations and votes and issues, he just hasn't been there.
01:06:27.000And Watley will be way better if we're able to get him over the finish line.
01:06:31.000And if we're able to get Paxton over the finish line, he'll be better on the issues than John Cornyn.
01:07:44.000But the message we try to get through to them, which is very difficult, is to point out that nothing would win them votes faster than to just have the perception that they're actually working and achieving and doing things.
01:07:56.000We've had a 10% approval rating of Congress for the last 20 years, basically.
01:08:13.000What if, instead of this long August recess, Senator Thune announced, We're buckling down and we're making sure there's no vacant judicial offices, no vacant ambassadors, no vacant lower things.
01:08:24.000We're confirming everyone President Trump has sent to us.
01:08:28.000If they were doing that, MAGA would be fired up.
01:08:31.000It's completely unacceptable that Thune is allowing the August recess to happen.
01:10:50.000I mean, and based on all the testimony that I know we all saw from last week when she was asking for extra protection, what can be done to remove somebody from the Supreme Court if they don't feel confident enough to do their job and they're openly professing it?
01:11:08.000Very briefly, are you saying that they knew her in high school and college and that she was more conservative then?
01:11:23.000And on the record, people that know her now have told me that this, her about face, is 100% about the threats that have been made against her Haitian children.
01:11:37.000And so I'm wondering why she is able to continue on the highest court in the land if she has an inability to go through with her job.
01:11:50.000Well, she doesn't deserve the spot there any longer.
01:12:30.000Probably going to muster that many votes, even if we're very disappointed.
01:12:33.000I think we could maybe, frankly, pass more security for Supreme Court justices.
01:12:38.000We should do that anyway, because it's just too obvious.
01:12:41.000If you're a left wing lunatic, by far, the biggest way you can try to change the country is just take out one of these Supreme Court justices.
01:12:48.000They're old, they're not as healthy as other people.
01:13:04.000And it's very disappointing if she really did just do her, do an about face on her v. It was Samuel Chase was impeached, but the Senate acquitted him.