The Charlie Kirk Show - "Lose By Less," Win the Race

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00:00:01.000 We talk about the amazing results we have at Grand Canyon University, where we registered a ton of voters.

00:00:06.000 You'll hear about it in just a second.

00:00:08.000 And secondly, we're going to tell you exactly how Trump can lose.

00:00:12.000 I'll lay it out for you and what we can do about it.

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00:00:29.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:27.000 Honored to be with you as always as we are here 33 days out from counting day and the work is still ongoing everybody.

00:01:37.000 Yesterday was a remarkable day.

00:01:39.000 Yesterday we continued our campus tour across the country in the effort to lose by less.

00:01:47.000 To lose by less on these college campuses.

00:01:49.000 We know that we're probably not going to win the youth vote on a lot of these college campuses.

00:01:52.000 It still tilts liberal.

00:01:54.000 It is still a majority liberal and left-wing environment.

00:01:59.000 With that being said, though, can we lose by less?

00:02:01.000 Instead of losing by 30 points, can we lose by 15 points?

00:02:05.000 Instead of losing by 20 points, can we lose by 8 points?

00:02:08.000 We went yesterday to Grand Canyon University, which is a private Christian school on the west side of Phoenix.

00:02:14.000 They do a great job. Very good basketball team, might I add.

00:02:17.000 And wonderful people.

00:02:18.000 I've gone to GCU multiple times before, and I've never been met with the response that we received yesterday on campus.

00:02:26.000 There's a transformation unfolding on these campuses.

00:02:29.000 And mind you, this is more than just the thousands of students that attended.

00:02:32.000 Look at that screen, everybody, on Real America's Voice or the stream.

00:02:35.000 Those of you listening on podcasting or radio, these images are up on charliekirk.com and all of our social channels.

00:02:40.000 Those are thousands of students in the 104 degree heat.

00:02:44.000 I wasn't even giving a speech.

00:02:46.000 I was just there to come take selfies and shake some hands.

00:02:48.000 Went out there, asked some questions, talked to some folks.

00:02:51.000 The energy and the spirit was unlike anything we've grasped before.

00:02:55.000 But understand, the takeaway from these events is more than just a rally and more than just enthusiasm.

00:03:02.000 No, no, no. This is what makes Turning Point different.

00:03:05.000 This is work that has never been done in the modern conservative movement.

00:03:10.000 In fact, I don't think since the advent of the modern college campus there has been a conservative movement nearly as successful as what we're seeing right now.

00:03:20.000 Not even close. In the history of the modern college campus.

00:03:24.000 Look at those videos. Thousands and thousands of students.

00:03:27.000 And this is not just at the private Christian school of GCU. We saw this at Penn State.

00:03:31.000 We saw this at Arizona State University.

00:03:33.000 We saw this at University of Wisconsin-Madison.

00:03:35.000 What we are doing at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action is working.

00:03:40.000 And mind you, the establishment has tried to take out...

00:03:43.000 Turning Point at every single turn.

00:03:45.000 They still are trying to plant stories.

00:03:47.000 They're still trying to launch investigations against us.

00:03:49.000 The Republican establishment hates Turning Point because you are seeing the results right there.

00:03:55.000 But again, it's more than just a rally.

00:03:58.000 What we did at Grand Canyon University is sending shockwaves across the Arizona political universe because we are now becoming very friendly with the Arizona Secretary of State and Maricopa County Recorder's office.

00:04:15.000 What do I mean by that?

00:04:17.000 So we do these voter registration events, and we then, of course, have to submit the forms.

00:04:22.000 So we do them at, for example, we did them last night at Dream City Church with Dr.

00:04:26.000 Ben Carson. 2,000 people were there.

00:04:28.000 That's right. We also had Dr. Ben Carson last night.

00:04:30.000 I'll talk about that in a second. Amazing.

00:04:32.000 Well, you know, we got over 100 people to pledge to commit 100 ballots.

00:04:36.000 So that's 10,000 new ballots that we got pledged to chase yesterday.

00:04:40.000 We do these events at Arizona State University, at Grand Canyon.

00:04:42.000 But you have to submit these forms when you register these new voters to vote.

00:04:47.000 So we register all these folks and our Turning Point Action staff that does a great job.

00:04:52.000 And also just, I'm going to make sure I shout out just some of the staff.

00:04:55.000 I'm going to butcher this and I'm going to get in so much trouble.

00:04:57.000 But Josie on the Turning Point USA side did an amazing job. 1.00

00:05:01.000 She deserves a lot of credit.

00:05:02.000 She was just... 0.88

00:05:04.000 That was her project. She did it in 48 hours notice.

00:05:06.000 She did so well. Eric also did a really great job yesterday on the Turning Point Action side.

00:05:11.000 And I want to thank the entire team.

00:05:13.000 So I'm just shouting out those two people.

00:05:14.000 I'm going to get in trouble. I'm going to get all these messages of people I forgot.

00:05:17.000 So I apologize. But those two people in particular went above and beyond.

00:05:20.000 So Eric, this is what's amazing.

00:05:22.000 And I'll tell you the number in a second. So we register voters for three and a half hours at Grand Canyon University.

00:05:27.000 The RNC didn't do this under RANA. No one's done this work.

00:05:30.000 Turning Point is doing the difficult work to lose by less.

00:05:33.000 So we have these piles of voter registration forms, and we show up to the Arizona Secretary of State office, and they're rather annoyed to see us.

00:05:43.000 You see, the Arizona Secretary of State office is controlled by Adrian Fontes, a Democrat.

00:05:47.000 Here we have all these first-time voters, and instead of them being super excited, They're like, oh boy, here they come again.

00:05:54.000 They're annoyed. And they're annoyed because it wasn't just that we came with 30 voter registration forms or 80 voter registration forms or 150 voter registration forms.

00:06:05.000 No, no, no. Yesterday, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action in particular being the political arm...

00:06:12.000 We registered not 300 new voters for Trump, not 500 new voters for Trump, not 600.

00:06:19.000 No, no, no. 750 new first-time voters for Donald Trump in three hours.

00:06:29.000 750 first-time voters for Donald Trump at Grand Canyon University.

00:06:35.000 So Eric goes to the Secretary of State's office with this massive pile of voter registration forms.

00:06:41.000 And instead of processing them, they made him go to the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.

00:06:46.000 Eventually they received the forms.

00:06:48.000 Eventually they accepted them and processed them.

00:06:51.000 But the Democrats are getting used to us showing up every day with these piles of first-time voters.

00:06:58.000 And mind you, this used to be an exclusive Democrat project.

00:07:01.000 It used to always be the Democrat groups of the Latino outreach groups, the youth vote groups.

00:07:06.000 They would show up in the days before the voter registration deadline, and they would flood the zone with voter registration forms, maybe some of them erroneous.

00:07:14.000 Let me say, the 750 forms that Turning Point Action submitted yesterday, those were not erroneous.

00:07:19.000 Those were legit, right there, real forms, real students.

00:07:23.000 And remember, we submitted 750.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, go ahead, Blake. That's the problem, Charlie.

00:07:29.000 They're not just, you know, some, like, homeless guy that they found and, you know, they can put all of them at a Starbucks.

00:07:34.000 Exactly. Don't you know, Charlie, this is supposed to be a low turnout election.

00:07:37.000 These are real people. This is the low turnout election year.

00:07:39.000 That's the strategy. I want to get into that because I think it's really important.

00:07:43.000 It's actually my greatest concern. My greatest concern is if we lose, we lose because we don't turn out.

00:07:47.000 And all the polls show that.

00:07:48.000 All the data shows that. And it's the great concern.

00:07:52.000 So Donald Trump fell 10,000 ballots short in 2020.

00:07:58.000 10,000 ballots short.

00:08:00.000 And in just one day, we registered 7%.

00:08:06.000 of his deficit in 2020.

00:08:09.000 And now I am here to announce, which is a big deal, since June, Turning Point Action has far exceeded the registration deficit of the amount that Donald Trump fell short in the state of Arizona.

00:08:24.000 Just this summer and in fall.

00:08:26.000 That is a very big deal, everybody.

00:08:28.000 And that doesn't count all the natural voter registration.

00:08:31.000 That doesn't count all of the organic.

00:08:33.000 By the way, I've registered new voters.

00:08:35.000 As I say, I go on my walk every morning.

00:08:37.000 People want a selfie. I only take selfies with registered voters.

00:08:41.000 And I can tell you right now, this is work that did not happen in 2020.

00:08:45.000 And it is exponential.

00:08:48.000 It's not just that we registered 750 new first-time Trump voters to vote at Grand Canyon University.

00:08:53.000 These people that love Trump, I mean, I'm talking about on fire for Trump.

00:08:57.000 But if you don't believe it, wait till you see the video.

00:08:59.000 I was the man on the street.- I said who you voting for Trump,Trump Trump Trump Эт

00:09:04.000 This is not normal to have this response Blake, I want to get you on this about a minute remaining.

00:09:10.000 Blake, to have this kind of response on a college campus is unique.

00:09:15.000 This is not something that we see every election cycle.

00:09:17.000 It's 100% a new trend, and I've only been with you two years, but I remember your events that you're doing in late 22, early 23.

00:09:26.000 Much more hostile crowd, smaller crowd.

00:09:29.000 And it's very jarring to go to relatively big schools, Kansas State or Penn State, as you mentioned, and just very large crowds.

00:09:40.000 And it's not just the number of people.

00:09:42.000 They're much more assertive and confident about what they think.

00:09:46.000 It's just much more acceptable and even...

00:09:50.000 I hesitate to use the word, but it's kind of cool to be supporting this movement.

00:09:54.000 It's so much less dorky or embarrassing.

00:09:58.000 There used to be this weird shame that would attach to being a right-of-center person on a college campus, and it was like they almost reveled in it. 0.97

00:10:07.000 And that was such a loser attitude to have.

00:10:09.000 And so that's the coolest thing that we see now is they've transcended this old like born loser attitude and they want to win and they think their ideology is correct and they don't concede that the left is somehow like morally better than them.

00:10:23.000 Well said, everybody. There's something happening on these college campuses.

00:10:27.000 We will lose by less.

00:10:29.000 And I just want to thank the educational work of Turning Point USA that's been changing the culture and the political work of Turning Point Action.

00:10:36.000 There are no more important organizations, I believe this, I'm a little biased, than Turning Point USA, Turning Point Action in the country doing the work out in 104 degree heat to try to save the civilization.

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00:11:40.000 I want to just reiterate to all of you, this is by no means normal.

00:11:45.000 The trends are generally in our favor right now.

00:11:48.000 It is hard to find, I mean this sincerely, that could there be a non-candidate Democrat that could draw a crowd like that?

00:11:57.000 I mean, maybe like George Clooney or Brad Pitt, Taylor Swift, probably, Katy Perry.

00:12:02.000 I mean, I'm sure. But I'm talking about someone who's just maybe in the political punditry world.

00:12:09.000 I don't think so. And we're seeing this on campus after campus after campus.

00:12:13.000 And again, I don't want to misrepresent.

00:12:16.000 It's almost a guarantee that Kamala Harris will win the youth vote. 0.99

00:12:19.000 But I don't think she's going to win it nearly by the margins that previous youth The youth totals that we saw in 2020, and certainly not in 2016, and definitely not with Barack Obama back in 2008 and 2012.

00:12:30.000 These are waves and waves of patriots.

00:12:33.000 My greatest concern, and Blake shares it, is that yes, we have that crowd, show that one more time, and just only a handful of them show up.

00:12:41.000 Only a handful of them turn out.

00:12:43.000 This is why our obsession at Turning Point Action is to chase ballots and to drive turnout.

00:12:48.000 Turnout will make or break this entire election.

00:12:51.000 This is not a persuasion election anymore.

00:12:53.000 And the question is, what are we doing to drive turnout?

00:12:56.000 Well, at Turning Point Action, we're doing quite a lot.

00:12:58.000 Hundreds and hundreds of full-time people, thousands of volunteers.

00:13:02.000 But Blake, can you support me in this?

00:13:04.000 I don't know if you agree or disagree that it seems that turnout is the ingredient That is the most worrisome if it does not manifest for Donald Trump.

00:13:15.000 It definitely is. We've remarked on this throughout the summer that there has the polling indicates there's been at least a bit of a shift in what Donald Trump's coalition is.

00:13:27.000 Historically, the Republican coalition was high turnout voters and the Democrat coalition was lower turnout voters.

00:13:34.000 So the Democrats would go absolutely hog wild.

00:13:37.000 They need turnout to be as high as possible.

00:13:40.000 And that still kind of held in 2016, in 2020, but it shifted a lot.

00:13:45.000 Donald Trump is doing better than before with young voters.

00:13:49.000 He's doing better than before with black and Hispanic voters, Asian voters, naturalized immigrant voters.

00:13:56.000 But the most straightforward way to put this is, if you poll people and ask them, did you vote in 2020?

00:14:01.000 Did you vote in 2020 and 2022?

00:14:04.000 Or have you not voted at all in the last few elections?

00:14:07.000 Donald Trump wins big, massively, with people who did not vote in either 2022 or 2024.

00:14:16.000 Which means, if we're able to get people who passed on the last presidential election to vote, it is very likely they will be voting for us.

00:14:26.000 And if you didn't vote in the last election for any reason other than you were under 18, chances are you're a person who's not super engaged.

00:14:34.000 You forget about the election.

00:14:36.000 You don't really care that much about it.

00:14:39.000 You're not a person who's super likely to vote.

00:14:42.000 You need to be kind of nudged, pushed through the door to do it.

00:14:46.000 And the question is, is that going to happen?

00:14:49.000 Because I think Republicans often think like, oh, I'm this guy, I'm so autonomous, I will get it done.

00:14:55.000 But one, a lot of those people don't do it.

00:14:57.000 And two, not everyone is like you.

00:14:59.000 There are people out there that you've got to ask, nag to vote. 1.00

00:15:03.000 And the truth is, this is just being truthful, is we don't have coming out of the Trump campaign itself or the RNC, we don't have the same Exactly.

00:15:23.000 to do that work, to ask that question. It's your job to talk to the people in your church,

00:15:28.000 in your basketball league, in your friend group, in your book club, in your discord group, in your...

00:15:35.000 I don't know. Do people still play Halo?

00:15:36.000 Whatever. Whatever group you're in.

00:15:38.000 If they're going to vote the way we need them to, you need to ask them, are you registered?

00:15:43.000 Did you vote? We can go do it together.

00:15:46.000 I will drive you. You have to put in that work because this election will be won or lost on the margins.

00:15:52.000 Both candidates have 45% baked in.

00:15:54.000 It's just that 10% of swing that's going to decide everything.

00:15:59.000 And I'll be very honest. The Democrats have a far superior turnout operation than we do.

00:16:02.000 And that's why if it's tied, it's advantage Democrats.

00:16:05.000 I'm just going to be honest. Now, how much organic turnout does Trump generate because of the attachment people have to him and the energy?

00:16:13.000 We don't know. But we do know this, that Democrats, this is a fact, and I'm not trying to freak you guys out.

00:16:18.000 I'm trying to get you to work. I'm trying to get you to do something.

00:16:21.000 Democrats have overperformed every public poll since the reversal of Roe versus Wade.

00:16:26.000 They have overperformed every single poll.

00:16:29.000 They have the machinery, the apparatus, and the sophistication.

00:16:32.000 They're the ones overperforming polling now because they have hundreds of millions of dollars spent on a turnout operation.

00:16:37.000 And so if we lose, it'll be because there was not an investment done in turnout and we did not do the work.

00:16:43.000 We've won the argument. We've won the debate.

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00:18:01.000 If we are going to lose, it will be because of turnout.

00:18:06.000 It's that simple. We have won the debate, everybody.

00:18:08.000 We've won the debate. Now, what is the disturbing element of my visit to Grand Canyon University?

00:18:18.000 What would the disturbing takeaway be?

00:18:20.000 Yes, we registered 750 people in three hours.

00:18:27.000 But that means that if we didn't show up, that's 750 people that support Trump that we're not voting.

00:18:34.000 That's not good, everybody.

00:18:36.000 That means that there are millions of people out there that we have not yet found and we have not yet registered to vote that are supporting us, that love our movement, that share our worldview.

00:18:46.000 We've won the debate. And how much low-hanging fruit out there is there?

00:18:50.000 And this is my biggest concern in November.

00:18:53.000 My biggest concern is that we have all these crowds and all this enthusiasm, and we think we're going to have a high turnout, and it turns out that we're 2% or 3% lower.

00:19:03.000 We're like, well, what happened?

00:19:06.000 We were doing well on the ground and everyone agreed with us.

00:19:09.000 It's because we did not do the technical, practical work to drive up turnout.

00:19:14.000 And that is exactly what we are doing at Turning Point Action with our Commit 100.

00:19:19.000 Sentiment is not enough, okay?

00:19:21.000 Sentiment is not enough.

00:19:23.000 You have to drive turnout.

00:19:25.000 Now, some of you understandably say, but Charlie, what about the fraud?

00:19:28.000 What about the cheating?

00:19:30.000 I totally hear you on that.

00:19:31.000 But think about it. We don't have a right to complain about fraud if we have 750 people at Grand Canyon that aren't voting.

00:19:38.000 So don't lecture me about fraud if our own side isn't turning out.

00:19:43.000 By the way, I hope there are a lot of groups, I know there are, doing lawsuits, cleaning up voter rolls, all that stuff's important.

00:19:48.000 But there are one way to first solve the issue of our deficit with balloting is to turn out more of our own people.

00:19:55.000 So right now, we have states that are already doing early voting.

00:19:59.000 If you live in Virginia, you can go vote.

00:20:02.000 Go vote right now. Minnesota, you can go vote.

00:20:04.000 South Dakota, Blake's people, I think Trump's gonna win South Dakota.

00:20:07.000 Vermont, go vote. Pennsylvania, 22 counties right now.

00:20:11.000 Are allowing early voting, including Allegheny County.

00:20:15.000 Allegheny County, home to Pittsburgh, began hosting over-the-counter voting in the lobby of the county office building on Monday and said people who applied for mail-in ballots have started receiving them in mail this week.

00:20:27.000 Now, let me tell you why voting early is important.

00:20:29.000 We talk about the Cary Lake example.

00:20:31.000 When I went to go vote for Cary Lake back in 2022, there were two and a half hour waiting lines.

00:20:36.000 Machine tabulator problems.

00:20:38.000 And a lot of people were disenfranchised.

00:20:41.000 Tens of thousands of people minimum, maybe even more than that.

00:20:43.000 And Carrie Lake should have been governor and she wasn't. 1.00

00:20:45.000 Number two, remember Adam Laxalt?

00:20:47.000 Adam Laxalt should be the senator from Nevada.

00:20:50.000 We told everyone to go vote on Election Day.

00:20:52.000 It was a mistake that I made.

00:20:53.000 But, you know, people that were in charge of the apparatus were the ones largely responsible.

00:20:58.000 There was a record snowstorm, a blizzard.

00:21:02.000 Remember Jeremy Renner, the actor?

00:21:04.000 Good guy. He got his car flipped over.

00:21:06.000 That's that blizzard. On election day, in northern Nevada, the reddest part of Nevada, and Adam Laxalt fell short.

00:21:14.000 How much did he fall short of, by the way, Blake?

00:21:16.000 Can you find that? Back in 2000 against Cortez Masto?

00:21:19.000 Or how about right now, like 5,000 votes?

00:21:22.000 Thank you, Andrew. And they say that the snowstorm depressed turnout by about 15,000 votes.

00:21:28.000 That right there. So if all those people would have voted early, they could have circumvented the blizzard or whatever happened in Northern Nevada.

00:21:38.000 It was a day of chaos, is what it was.

00:21:40.000 And then, of course, the example that's right in front of us.

00:21:43.000 We need to do everything we can.

00:21:44.000 We're sending money, we're sending resources to help Western North Carolina right now.

00:21:48.000 We have Cory Mills coming on next hour to talk about that.

00:21:50.000 But imagine if a flood happens, a hurricane happens.

00:21:52.000 What if your kid gets the flu?

00:21:54.000 What if you get the flu? What if you get COVID? Everything might not be perfect on Election Day.

00:22:00.000 So why are we acting as if 12 hours is going to be enough for us to defeat a 30-day blue machine?

00:22:08.000 The answer is it's not.

00:22:10.000 And we should have Senator Adam Laxalt, which would have spared us from a lot of this nonsense here.

00:22:14.000 If we do not engage with early voting, we're going to fail.

00:22:17.000 So you might say, but Charlie...

00:22:19.000 That's not the way we should vote.

00:22:20.000 You're right. The way we should vote is show up in person, voter ID, paper ballots.

00:22:25.000 Election Day is the last day of voting, but let's take the example from Grand Canyon University.

00:22:29.000 Those are 750 college kids.

00:22:31.000 Do you think that 750 new college kids for Trump are all going to show up and remember to show up?

00:22:37.000 On time, on election day for Trump?

00:22:40.000 Of course not. They'll forget.

00:22:42.000 By the way, that Grand Canyon is in a bad area.

00:22:45.000 It's in a very crime-infested area.

00:22:47.000 Do they have a voting center on Grand Canyon University?

00:22:50.000 I don't know. You might have to go into the local neighborhood where there's a lot of crime there.

00:22:54.000 A lot of kids don't like to go there.

00:22:56.000 In fact, they're told not to go a couple blocks away from Grand Canyon University.

00:22:59.000 A lot of gang violence, a lot of bad stuff.

00:23:01.000 You're trying to tell me that all 750 of those kids are going to show up on election day, wait in line.

00:23:05.000 They might have class. The weather's going to be great.

00:23:07.000 You're trying to tell me no. Instead, the more logical way to do this is, hey, those 750 new Trump kids, here's your mail-in ballot.

00:23:15.000 Fill it out. Bring it back in.

00:23:17.000 That's far more logical, far more rational to get our side to go vote.

00:23:22.000 And the college kid example is great.

00:23:24.000 We all know that college kids are not exactly known to be the most timely, the most, let's just say, the greatest memory of when to show up.

00:23:32.000 And let's just say they're college kids, okay?

00:23:34.000 And that's fine. You should cut them some slack.

00:23:35.000 They're figuring their life out. That's where you develop, where you grow.

00:23:38.000 It's where you become a better version of yourself.

00:23:40.000 So you're able to put points on the board during voting month instead of just saying, show up on election day.

00:23:46.000 Show up on election day. We will fall short and we will lose with that mentality.

00:23:49.000 We will lose if we act as if our major movement can all fit in a 12-hour period.

00:23:55.000 And if you want to vote on election day, that's great.

00:23:56.000 I hope you don't get sick. I hope your house doesn't get flooded.

00:23:58.000 I hope it's not a snowstorm. And I hope that the machines don't fail like they did in the Carrie Lake election.

00:24:02.000 If those things don't happen, great, go vote on election day.

00:24:04.000 By the way, what if you have to travel for work?

00:24:06.000 What if your car breaks down? What if you're a single mom and you have to go to the pediatrician office and you've got a lot of problems on your hands?

00:24:13.000 I know it's a paradigm shift.

00:24:14.000 I understand. But the logical way in front of us is that for lower likely voters, like college kids, single moms, plumbers, electricians, welders, police officers, nurses, go do it now. 0.98

00:24:25.000 Get it done early. And then also, you're telling the campaign, because we have all the access, the campaign does, and so do we at Turning Point Action.

00:24:31.000 Once you vote, you're crossed off the list.

00:24:33.000 Blake, is there a way to win if we only vote on Election Day as the Trump movement?

00:24:40.000 I don't think there is, Charlie.

00:24:41.000 I think the Democrats have built up a method that allows them to get their people to the polls over an entire month-long period that's more efficient in terms of resources.

00:24:53.000 It's more efficient in terms of who they can focus on.

00:24:56.000 And to think we can just...

00:24:59.000 Beat it. It's like, you know, we make fun of the Kamala campaign for running on vibes, you know, the whole brat summer thing and saying we're just going to win because we're going to be so intense.

00:25:09.000 We're all going to vote on Election Day and nothing can stop us.

00:25:13.000 That's that's putting your trust in vibes instead of putting your trust in actually doing the work to win.

00:25:20.000 And in the end, the winner is the person who gets the most pieces of paper into the box.

00:25:26.000 And I don't know why you would want to only have one day to put your paper into the box instead of 25 or 30 or 40 days to do it.

00:25:35.000 Do we have our issues with mail voting, early voting?

00:25:38.000 Yes, we do. We have our issues with a lot of things.

00:25:41.000 We have our issues with the stuff they do with polling places.

00:25:44.000 We have our issues with all sorts of stuff.

00:25:47.000 But we work within the rules of the game as it is played.

00:25:51.000 I have issues with rules in the NFL and how they run that game, but you still play by the rules of the game, not by this fantasy different game that you wish existed.

00:26:01.000 And in the system we have right now, we have a large window to vote, and we should take advantage of that.

00:26:06.000 We have to take advantage of it.

00:26:08.000 We have to maximize our advantage according to how the rules are currently written.

00:26:13.000 And here's the open secret, everybody.

00:26:15.000 Democrats are cheering for lower turnout for the first time since, like, 1940.

00:26:20.000 They hope that turnout isn't high because the lower likely voter is now a Trump voter

00:26:24.000 So that's why they're muting a lot of their voter registration thrives. They're muting the PSA's on TV

00:26:30.000 It's not the same bedlam that it was in 2020 because they think our movement is gonna show up

00:26:35.000 We win we we collaborate these people We we are in a great spot if we get every person who agrees

00:26:42.000 with us to go vote But it's going to require so much work.

00:26:45.000 It's going to require each one of you to go chase ballots for 30 days in Arizona or Wisconsin.

00:26:48.000 What does that mean? You go, for example, those 750 kids in now Grand Canyon, that's step one.

00:26:54.000 You know what step two is? Now we have to go send chasers to go make sure all those 750 kids submit their pieces of paper.

00:26:59.000 And we will. And that's what we do.

00:27:01.000 So we register them first, 750, and then we're going to go knock on their dorm room.

00:27:05.000 Hey, what is it?

00:27:06.000 It's 2 p.m. Yes, you should be up.

00:27:08.000 What do you want? Can you fill out your ballot, bro?

00:27:11.000 What? Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:27:13.000 Duh. Fill it out.

00:27:14.000 Let's go. You can't touch the ballot.

00:27:16.000 You nag them. You get it done. 1.00

00:27:17.000 You walk them to the Dropbox.

00:27:19.000 Boom. Knock on the next dorm room.

00:27:21.000 What is it? Ballot?

00:27:23.000 I thought that I voted when I filled out that form at the Charlie Kirk event.

00:27:26.000 No, no. That was registering to vote.

00:27:28.000 Oh, okay. Fill it out.

00:27:29.000 Boom. That is what ballot chasing is.

00:27:32.000 Dorm room by dorm room.

00:27:34.000 Building by building, door by door, that is how we win.

00:27:38.000 To be a polite, nagging force to impact millions of low-propensity voters to vote during voting month.

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00:28:58.000 If you watch this show regularly, you should chase at least 100 ballots during that early voting period.

00:29:07.000 That is tpaction.com slash 100 or tpaction.com slash chase.

00:29:13.000 Both of them work. And if you live in California, if you live in Utah, if you live across the country and you want to take time off of work to go do this work in Arizona, we have just put down deposits on over a million dollars of hotel rooms.

00:29:29.000 For 30 days. It might sound like a lot, but I mean, actually, think about it.

00:29:33.000 What a hotel room costs in Arizona in the month of October for 30 days.

00:29:37.000 It's over a million bucks. And we've raised the money.

00:29:39.000 We've done it. And what is that hotel room for?

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00:29:54.000 Blake, you have a thought here about the get-out-the-vote operators and we want them working more days, not less days.

00:30:01.000 Yeah, I think this really helps for illustrating why taking advantage of the full voting period is important.

00:30:09.000 Let's say you have the manpower to have 50 get-out-the-vote workers.

00:30:15.000 And if you only decide to vote on election day, think about the choke point you're going to have.

00:30:20.000 Do you want those 50 get-out-the-vote people to be harassing people who actually were 100% going to vote, but they haven't voted yet?

00:30:28.000 They are not voting until after work.

00:30:30.000 These people are now spending time calling them, nagging them, going after these votes unnecessarily.

00:30:36.000 Now imagine your 100% locked-in voters just cast their ballot Three weeks beforehand.

00:30:42.000 They're off the list. You can check them off.

00:30:44.000 You don't have to worry about those people.

00:30:46.000 That means your get out the vote people can focus all of their attention and energy on the actual marginal voters.

00:30:53.000 The people that we're struggling to get out who are our supporters but they're...

00:30:57.000 Difficult to wrangle.

00:30:58.000 They're busy. They procrastinated.

00:31:00.000 You can put all of your focus on the marginal voters that you need to put in effort to turn out.

00:31:06.000 There's a huge amount of wasted effort when you do all of your get out the vote on Election Day because there are people who are 100% going to vote no matter what, but because they weren't banked, because they weren't locked in already, you still have to worry and fret about those people because you can't easily tell who the 100% voters are at a distance.

00:31:26.000 And it's just another thing.

00:31:28.000 Like, let's say you can get 10 cars.

00:31:30.000 You can get just as much mileage for driving people to places.

00:31:33.000 You can get just as much mileage out of one car that can work 10 days as you can out of 10 cars working one day.

00:31:40.000 It's a lot cheaper to have one car than to have 10 cars or vans or whatever vehicle you want to work with.

00:31:46.000 It's so much more efficient in terms of election resources if you're 10 out of 10 Votes every election people get their ballots in early.

00:31:58.000 That's exactly right. And so the someone asks here, Charlie, my question is, why didn't these kids register to vote before you showed up on campus if they intended to vote?

00:32:06.000 Well, first of all, many of them were registered in other states.

00:32:09.000 Like California, Oregon, and Washington.

00:32:11.000 Number two, a lot of people don't think about registering to vote actually.

00:32:14.000 They just think you can show up to vote.

00:32:15.000 It's a very complicated thing.

00:32:17.000 Or they're just not as engaged in politics.

00:32:19.000 We're very committed.

00:32:21.000 We're very involved. There are a lot of young people who they care more about.

00:32:25.000 Professional sports. They care more about playing video games.

00:32:28.000 They care more about trying to find someone to date.

00:32:30.000 And yeah, they might agree with us on the issues, but it's not front and center.

00:32:35.000 Should they care more about it?

00:32:36.000 Yeah, this country's in trouble.

00:32:37.000 But that is how people are.

00:32:39.000 You have to go after people where they are.

00:32:42.000 And a lot of people, they'll respond when you ask them, when you make the pitch, when you make the effort.

00:32:48.000 Yes, and so the takeaway here is this, and we can read data after data.

00:32:51.000 In fact, there's an article here from the New Republic, which is a communist website, which is, will this election be decided by non-voters?

00:33:02.000 And it says here, quote, James Blair told Reuters, who's great, we'll have him back on the show, we know that they favor us, but we have to get them to the polls.

00:33:10.000 According to Reuters, Elon Musk's America PAC and Charlie Kirk's Turning Point Action are both targeting people who don't vote in the hope that this year they will.

00:33:17.000 And so, look, the thought process is this.

00:33:20.000 High propensity voters, those of you that watch this show, I don't need to bother you to go vote.

00:33:24.000 You guys have been waiting for years to go vote.

00:33:27.000 But the 750 new college kids on campus, they're new voters.

00:33:31.000 We have to go nag them. 1.00

00:33:32.000 For the plumber, electrician, the welder, the construction worker that are less likely to vote, we have to go find

00:33:38.000 them.

00:33:38.000 In fact, who is this low-propensity voter the New Republic writes?

00:33:41.000 According to a poll conducted in September 13th through 23rd in Michigan by Data for Progress, a progressive think tank,

00:33:47.000 the infrequent voter is more likely to be more likely than not white.

00:33:52.000 Employed either full-time or part-time.

00:33:54.000 If our low-propensity voter isn't working, it's probably because he's retired or a student and he's more likely politically independent.

00:34:00.000 Not voting in 2020 situates him among roughly one third of eligible voters who failed to do so,

00:34:05.000 even though turnout was higher in 2020 than any election since 1900, according to Pew Research.

00:34:11.000 Turnout could well be higher in 2024, which is why the Trump campaign is stalking this group.

00:34:16.000 Now, we could be surprised. If we actually do our work, the higher the turnout in this election,

00:34:21.000 guys, that's going to be a great early indicator that November is going well.

00:34:24.000 But here's the thing. Turnout is not something that you just watch and like the weather and

00:34:28.000 You can effectuate change with turnout.

00:34:31.000 Turnout is an effect of a cause.

00:34:33.000 And the cause is you.

00:34:35.000 So you can be the cause to drive turnout.

00:34:37.000 You can then go knock on every door, chase those ballots, be nagging.

00:34:42.000 You can drive the turnout leading up into counting day, which is election day.

00:34:47.000 And that is the missing ingredient.

00:34:49.000 I will say it one more time. If Trump is to not win, if Kamala Harris is to win, it will be because we did not do the work to turn out our voters.

00:34:57.000 That simple. Turnout is the missing ingredient.

00:35:00.000 If we turn out at 2020 levels or even better, we're going to be in the driver's seat.

00:35:04.000 The debate is over. We win on every major issue.

00:35:07.000 Can we get the people who agree with us to fill out a piece of paper and put it in a box?

00:35:11.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:13.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 03, 2024

"Lose By Less," Win the Race

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