The Charlie Kirk Show - July 01, 2021


Manhattan Tries to Take Down Trump...Again + The CCP Turns 100


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China celebrates a 100th anniversary for the Chinese Communist Party, and we talk about that, and also, I m joined by David Engelhart to go through the latest indictments with the Trump Organization of what s happening in Manhattan.

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00:00:26.000 Hey, everybody, China celebrates a 100-year anniversary for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:00:33.000 We talk about that, and also I'm joined by David Engelhart with us to go through the latest indictments with the Trump organization of what's happening in Manhattan.
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00:03:11.000 What if I told you America and our leaders, our political elite, that we created the greatest menace on the planet? 0.79
00:03:21.000 That it didn't come up of their own making, but we made a series of public policy choices that have led to the rise of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.87
00:03:32.000 They're celebrating their 100-year anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party in China.
00:03:38.000 Mao Seitong, an evil man who might be responsible for more deaths than any other person ever to live in the history of the world.
00:03:45.000 It's a competition between Stalin and Mao.
00:03:48.000 He attended the first party congress in July of 1921.
00:03:51.000 It was actually held on July 23rd, but Mao misremembered it and established it the holiday on July 1st.
00:03:58.000 At the time, China was an agrarian country, very poor, of about 400 million people, plagued by civil war and unrest.
00:04:07.000 After the communists gained power in 1949, Mao initiated a series of disastrous economic reforms that led to the deaths of tens of millions of people.
00:04:18.000 The China that we know today only began to take shape in the late 1970s when Mao's successor, Deng Xiping, opened up its market to international investors. 0.75
00:04:28.000 Now, the Chinese and the Chinese Communist Party, they're not good at many things.
00:04:33.000 They're not.
00:04:35.000 They don't invent things.
00:04:36.000 They're very good at stealing.
00:04:38.000 They're good at lying, and they have a lot of people. 1.00
00:04:41.000 You turn over a rock in Wuhan.
00:04:42.000 There's like 500,000 people. 0.98
00:04:44.000 So because of that, they have the ability to undercut the wages of the West. 1.00
00:04:50.000 That's what the Chinese are good at. 1.00
00:04:52.000 Show me one thing. 0.99
00:04:54.000 The Chinese, and I want to make a distinction because I'm going to get all these emails from some sort of anti-Asian hate group, whatever, of the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese people.
00:05:05.000 The Chinese people are lovely.
00:05:07.000 They're very sweet.
00:05:08.000 They believe in the Confucius, the Confucian view of the world.
00:05:11.000 He wrote a book called The Analects.
00:05:12.000 It's like poor Richard's almanac.
00:05:14.000 Nice way to view the world. 0.99
00:05:15.000 And I have no problem with the Chinese people. 0.99
00:05:18.000 I have a big problem with the lying thugs that run the Chinese Communist Party, the greatest evil we have seen since the Soviet Union. 0.98
00:05:26.000 And so the Chinese Communist Party, it really bothers them when they say this. 0.97
00:05:30.000 Can you show me one thing they've ever invented?
00:05:32.000 The Chinese Communist Party? 1.00
00:05:33.000 No, they're thieves. 1.00
00:05:35.000 They steal. 0.99
00:05:37.000 They cheat.
00:05:37.000 They copy.
00:05:38.000 No, there's a reason for this.
00:05:40.000 Entrepreneurialism, the capacity to create.
00:05:45.000 You need to have freedom to do that.
00:05:47.000 You need to have private property. 1.00
00:05:49.000 And so the only thing the Chinese, ah, actually, I stand, I stand created. 1.00
00:05:54.000 I stand corrected. 1.00
00:05:56.000 They did create the Chinese coronavirus. 1.00
00:05:58.000 That's right. 0.99
00:06:00.000 The Chinese Communist Party did make one thing. 0.99
00:06:03.000 They infected the entire world. 0.99
00:06:05.000 They've never made an automobile worth driving.
00:06:08.000 They've never made an airplane worth flying in, a social media network ever worth using.
00:06:12.000 No, but they did create a virus that you don't want to get.
00:06:16.000 Highly contagious one.
00:06:17.000 The Chinese Communist Party and their very serious leader, Mao Zedong.
00:06:23.000 I'm sorry. 0.94
00:06:23.000 No, no, Xi Jiping. 0.94
00:06:24.000 I get them confused. 0.99
00:06:25.000 I get one genocidal maniac confused with the other. 0.75
00:06:27.000 A very serious man. 0.51
00:06:29.000 And he gave a speech today.
00:06:30.000 And I won't do an impersonation because then I'll definitely have all the hate groups come after me.
00:06:36.000 Because they are hate groups, by the way.
00:06:37.000 They hate truth.
00:06:40.000 Xi Jinping gave the speech, do not question my authoriti.
00:06:44.000 He gave this big speech. 0.87
00:06:45.000 He said, anyone who dares try to control the Chinese Communist Party, you are evil. 0.98
00:06:50.000 Yeah, okay. 0.95
00:06:51.000 Slow down, you know, Kim Jong-u 2.0. 1.00
00:06:55.000 Do you notice that the Asian dictator gets the kind of the Winnie the Pooh stomach? 1.00
00:07:01.000 Do you notice they get this kind of curvature where they have to almost turn? 1.00
00:07:07.000 They can't turn directionally.
00:07:09.000 They turn like they're an aircraft carrier.
00:07:11.000 Do you notice this?
00:07:12.000 Because they get such a big stomach.
00:07:14.000 It must be all the pork. 0.93
00:07:15.000 By the way, the Chinese culture, they value pork like above all.
00:07:18.000 They love pork. 1.00
00:07:20.000 Not really my thing.
00:07:22.000 And so the GDP rose from $191 billion in 1980 to $14.3 trillion in 2019.
00:07:29.000 We did this. 0.99
00:07:31.000 Again, China, these are not creators. 0.91
00:07:34.000 They're not risk takers. 0.95
00:07:35.000 They're not ambitious entrepreneurs.
00:07:38.000 There are countries where they're actually very good at creating things.
00:07:42.000 They still copy a lot, but they actually have a code of ethics.
00:07:45.000 The Japanese. 0.95
00:07:46.000 The Japanese, they've copied for years. 0.86
00:07:48.000 But generally, the Japanese have been pretty good at creativity, more so than the Chinese, the Koreans as well.
00:07:55.000 The Chinese, no, they are, what's the best way that I can compare this without getting kicked off of social media?
00:08:02.000 I think I've done a good job of it.
00:08:04.000 So since we've liberalized the Chinese economy, which again, our leaders did, and I'm going to name the names.
00:08:10.000 George H.W. Bush did this.
00:08:14.000 George H.W. Bush was the head of the desk for the CIA to China.
00:08:21.000 He was the liaison to China.
00:08:23.000 Then he became CIA director.
00:08:25.000 And then he thought it would be a great idea to open up relations with China.
00:08:29.000 I was told my entire life, the more we trade with China, the more they're going to love America.
00:08:34.000 The more we trade with China, the more Western they're going to become.
00:08:37.000 The more we trade with China, the more they're all of a sudden going to be marching in the streets and wearing Levi jeans and eating Big Macs, taking selfies with Apple iPhones and demanding justice. 0.84
00:08:47.000 And the exact opposite has happened. 0.87
00:08:49.000 The more we've traded with China, the more totalitarian they have become. 0.87
00:08:56.000 Where now Nike CEO has come out and said, quote, Nike is a brand that is of China and for China.
00:09:03.000 But China's authoritarian government to territorial ambitions and alleged human rights abuses.
00:09:09.000 Who writes such a thing?
00:09:10.000 They have a million Muslims in concentration camps. 0.84
00:09:13.000 You know, I get, I laugh when these white liberals may say, oh, never again can we allow fascism to rise. 0.96
00:09:19.000 They say, okay, while you're wearing your Nike sneakers and you have zero muscle mass I can detect on your entire androgonist body, spare me the lecture while you eat your vegan smoothie, whatever that is. 0.51
00:09:34.000 Never again.
00:09:35.000 It's happening right now.
00:09:36.000 So until you call China what they are, which is a geopolitical enemy, they are genocidally committed to the abolition of a religion, then I don't want to hear about your big protests.
00:09:51.000 The GDP rose from $191 billion to $14.3 trillion in 2019.
00:09:59.000 The bottom line, it's 100 years old, the CCP, and it remains the greatest enemy of the West.
00:10:06.000 So what are we supposed to do about this?
00:10:08.000 Well, we created it.
00:10:10.000 And that which you create, you have an obligation to stop.
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00:11:25.000 The Chinese Communist Party who make your shoes, monitor your activities, and quite honestly, are dominating the world right now. 0.89
00:11:33.000 And it's not just the Chinese Communist Party. 0.59
00:11:35.000 Here's the divide, I think, the way we need to look at it.
00:11:37.000 And by the way, this is not a new divide.
00:11:39.000 This is not a, these are not new lines.
00:11:42.000 It's just, it keeps on repeating itself every couple decades.
00:11:45.000 You have team free and team control.
00:11:48.000 Those people that want human beings to live freely, and those that want to live under the authoritarian control of another.
00:11:55.000 This sort of divide happened in the 60s, 70s, and 80s with the Soviet Union.
00:12:00.000 It happened in the 40s and 50s when we were up against the National Socialist Workers' Party in Germany and also imperial ambitions of Japan.
00:12:09.000 And so, on team control, you have Facebook, you have Google, you have the Chinese Communist Party, you have Amazon, you have Bezos, you have Hollywood, you have Athletics, Eric Swawell, and almost the entire American media and all of academia.
00:12:22.000 On team free, you have conservatives, some churches, some pastors, and decent Americans.
00:12:33.000 And I will say Japan is actually on that team too. 0.81
00:12:36.000 That's the divide.
00:12:38.000 And so, we need to start to say, okay, you're on team control.
00:12:42.000 You have such a sorry state of your own existence, you want to go dominate another person.
00:12:48.000 And those are the dividing lines that we are living through right now. 0.93
00:12:53.000 And as we start to dive deeper into the one thing the Chinese Communist Party has ever created, which again, we as Americans, we can take credit for a lot. 0.92
00:13:02.000 The elevator, the airplane, the assembly line, mapping the human genome, coming up with germ theory, or at least discovering germ theory and institutionalizing it. 0.91
00:13:14.000 There's a lot of things we should be very proud of as Americans.
00:13:17.000 We are the masters of innovation.
00:13:19.000 We are the ambitious and the daring and the risk-taking.
00:13:22.000 We are not highway bandits like Xi Ji Ping. 0.93
00:13:25.000 And so, the one thing that Xi Ji Ping and his group of thieves have actually done is they kind of haphazardly in a bio laboratory in Wuhan, China, created a virus that changed our world. 0.96
00:13:37.000 And by the way, this is not what we're going to get to this hour. 0.96
00:13:40.000 We have way too much other stuff.
00:13:41.000 I have a whole packet of stuff.
00:13:42.000 I'm just going to re-emphasize something for 15 seconds: they're going to try to lock us down again.
00:13:47.000 The Delta variant, they're going to try to lock us down again.
00:13:51.000 If you have questions about that, go to our podcast yesterday. 0.89
00:13:54.000 I want to play Cut 69, where Tucker Carlson introduces Dr. Lee Min-Yung and explains how she was living and working in China and investigating the outbreak, but had to move to America in April because she came to the wrong conclusion.
00:14:09.000 You hear that?
00:14:10.000 Truth is not a left-wing value.
00:14:15.000 Truth is not an atheistic value.
00:14:18.000 Truth is not a Chinese Communist Party value.
00:14:22.000 The wrong conclusion means you found something that does not benefit the party.
00:14:28.000 It means you found something that does not benefit the Leviathan.
00:14:33.000 Cut 69.
00:14:34.000 Dr. Lee Min Yang is a physician and a virologist. 0.98
00:14:38.000 She's an expert on coronavirus.
00:14:40.000 Until last year, she was living and working in China.
00:14:43.000 In fact, she was investigating the outbreak in Wuhan from the very beginning.
00:14:46.000 But in April, she had to flee to this country because she had reached the wrong conclusion.
00:14:51.000 The coronavirus, she said, was not naturally occurring. 0.99
00:14:54.000 It had been designed, she said, by the Chinese military. 0.99
00:14:58.000 Designed by the Chinese military. 0.90
00:15:01.000 Dr. Lee Min-young explains how the virus was created with gain of function attributes. 0.99
00:15:07.000 And this is why we've seen all the unexplained symptoms in the population.
00:15:10.000 Cut 70.
00:15:11.000 So they add it to the virus and finally the whole virus becomes the SAS-COVID-2, which carry different kinds of gain of functions and target humans.
00:15:22.000 That's why later on, you see there are a lot of unexplained symptoms happen in the population. 0.70
00:15:30.000 It was made in a laboratory and it infected the entire world. 0.97
00:15:36.000 Now, I'm not accusing the Chinese Communist Party of this, but if all of a sudden I wanted to rise to prominence by my 100-year anniversary, I would create a virus, know how to solve it quickly, release it on my own people because, you know, a couple million people dying is merely a statistic to an atheist. 0.97
00:15:54.000 It's just a bunch of cells. 0.63
00:15:56.000 You might as well get them out of the way when you try to dominate one or the other.
00:16:00.000 And then I would release it on the rest of the world, lie about it, cover it up, and then all of a sudden the rest of the world will still be grappling with the variants while I will be the dominant power.
00:16:12.000 Now, we're still going to find out whether it was intentional or whether it was incompetence, of which the CCP is full of incompetence.
00:16:20.000 And they're full of the capacity to screw things up.
00:16:24.000 But if I wanted to dominate the world, I would do exactly that. 0.80
00:16:29.000 And she says the reason their death count is so low in China is because they locked people in their homes and they died of starvation instead of COVID. 0.86
00:16:36.000 It's just the statistic to Xi Jiping, while his belly gets bigger by the diameter of every second of eating imported pork. 0.84
00:16:45.000 Next segment, we'll talk a little bit about this and we'll be joined by Pastor David Engelhardt who's also an attorney to go into the latest movement of charges against Trump. 0.87
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00:18:05.000 I'm joined today with Pastor David Engelhart for the remainder of this hour.
00:18:10.000 How you doing, David?
00:18:11.000 Good to be here, Charlie.
00:18:12.000 I'm glad you're in town helping save New York City from the peril.
00:18:16.000 Yeah, that's am I tasked with that now?
00:18:18.000 Yes.
00:18:19.000 You know, when I see this one, it looks like a nice guy walking outside fully masked.
00:18:24.000 I just wonder what has happened.
00:18:26.000 Outside in the rain, I have to say his risk of viral infection is very low while you're outside.
00:18:33.000 But I suppose that's what freedom gets you, is the freedom to mask yourself on Third Avenue.
00:18:40.000 And you know, he's vaccinated.
00:18:41.000 He's guaranteed vaccination.
00:18:43.000 I would imagine that's probably true.
00:18:44.000 Yeah.
00:18:45.000 So I want to play one more clip here about the Chinese Communist Party, and then I want to get into the charges around President Trump because you're a lawyer as well.
00:18:53.000 And I want to kind of just walk through this because I have some questions because it seems as if President Trump's organization is coming under criminal scrutiny.
00:19:01.000 Cut 77, news report on the CCP.
00:19:03.000 I just want you to hear this, that anyone who dares question the Chinese Communist Party would find themselves on a collision course with the Great Wall of Steel Forged with its 1.4 billion people.
00:19:14.000 Is that a threat, Xi Jinping?
00:19:16.000 Cut 77. 0.59
00:19:18.000 Joe, today was an important day for China.
00:19:21.000 President Xi Jinping was projecting strength on this 100th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:19:29.000 So President Xi Jinping, as you said, had warned in this speech that any foreign force attempting to bully China would, quote, find themselves on the collision course with a great wall of steel forged by China's 1.4 billion people.
00:19:45.000 If you dare question us, if you dare say that our genocidal ambitions are wrong, you will come in some great wall of steel forged with your 1.4 billion people.
00:19:54.000 It's awfully collectivistic because that's exactly who they are.
00:19:58.000 And it's our leaders and our public policy measures that were the ones who did this.
00:20:04.000 Now, the man who stood in opposition to this kind of team control, this internationalist globalist experiment was, of course, President Donald Trump.
00:20:12.000 And they have not let President Trump go.
00:20:15.000 In fact, it is priority number one of the entire intelligentsia on the American left to make sure he pays a price.
00:20:24.000 They need to make sure that everyone sees that if you dare question the internationalist order, that you are going to pay a very significant personal price.
00:20:34.000 And so David, give us the latest of what's happening right now in Manhattan with the district attorney in Korean to President Trump.
00:20:41.000 Yeah, most of your listeners, I'm sure, know two years ago, Letitia James, the New York AG, started this, what's clearly proven to be a witch hunt against President Trump and the Trump organization.
00:20:54.000 Now, how do we know it's proved to be a witch hunt?
00:20:57.000 Because we have two years of investigations, of subpoenas, of document review, of teams of attorneys making $100,000 a peach approximately per attorney.
00:21:08.000 And now two years later, we have a guy that's not even in the inner circle of the Trump organization.
00:21:16.000 He's a CFO character, but he's paying bills and writing checks.
00:21:20.000 He's no grand master.
00:21:22.000 And the best or the most damning evidence that we're seeing in these reports is that there are fringe benefits that weren't appropriately accounted for.
00:21:32.000 So let's think about what the potential tax loss against for the city is.
00:21:36.000 10 grand, 20 grand?
00:21:38.000 You just spent two years with 20 attorneys.
00:21:41.000 You have a $2 million bill minimum.
00:21:44.000 What is the cost-benefit analysis for New Yorkers when in the subways, people are afraid to go down there because the murder rate has increased so high.
00:21:52.000 So David, I want to talk about that part first.
00:21:54.000 You live in New York.
00:21:55.000 Is it all, as AOC says, just hysteria or is crime increasing?
00:22:00.000 So the stats are we have a 20 to 30 percent increase in violent crime in New York City.
00:22:06.000 In some areas in the outer boroughs, you have a hundred percent increase in violent crime and murder.
00:22:12.000 So is it hysteria?
00:22:14.000 I guess if you think murder is not a big deal, then just on the ground, are people now realizing that?
00:22:19.000 I mean, you live not far from here.
00:22:21.000 Yeah, I live close.
00:22:22.000 Well, I live downtown and I have a church downtown, and lots of people have stopped taking the subway.
00:22:28.000 On an anecdotal personal level, I don't like to go into the subway with my little kids anymore because we have a surge in homelessness.
00:22:36.000 We have massive crime.
00:22:38.000 There's just in the last few weeks, we've had murders on the subway again.
00:22:41.000 And it feels unsafe for not just New Yorkers, but one of our primary economic drives is tourism.
00:22:48.000 And if tourists get stabbed by a screwdriver, which I think happened in February in the subway, they're not super likely to want to visit.
00:22:56.000 It says here, during the first five months of 2021, gunfire in New York City killed more than 8,100 people in the country with about 54 deaths a day.
00:23:05.000 The average of the same time period in the past six years is 14 deaths per day.
00:23:09.000 The shooting incidents in May in New York City jumped 73% compared to the same period last year.
00:23:15.000 Overall hate crimes have increased by 98%, whereas in May 2031, that shootings overall are up 122% in New York City.
00:23:27.000 But they're focused, what is the charge that they're possibly going against the Trump organization?
00:23:30.000 Was Trump laundering money?
00:23:32.000 Was he running a drug ring? 0.99
00:23:34.000 Was it a child sex trafficking operation?
00:23:36.000 Was he bringing in illegal 50 caliber rifles?
00:23:38.000 Or what's the charge here?
00:23:40.000 Right.
00:23:40.000 So the charges will be specifically unveiled in 21 minutes at 2 p.m.
00:23:45.000 The approximate charges are the inappropriate categorization of fringe benefits by this gentleman, Barry Weiselman.
00:23:55.000 Barry's the son.
00:23:56.000 Alan is the father.
00:23:58.000 And the son is Barry.
00:23:59.000 And Barry may have got some, he may have been able to stay in an empty apartment for some time for free or some other kind of fringe benefits.
00:24:07.000 Wait, this is what the criminal division of the Manhattan District Attorney is focused on.
00:24:11.000 After two years of subpoenas, and here's the crazy thing, Charlie, they got the information from Barry's ex-wife, Jennifer, who, you know, obviously wanted to throw him under the truck.
00:24:21.000 And so it's probably, you know, if I'm a defense attorney, I'm going to say there's personal animus related to this.
00:24:28.000 The testimony is not credible because you have an ex-wife against an ex-husband.
00:24:33.000 And that's how you're trumping up all of these charges to show how corrupt the quote-unquote Trump organization is.
00:24:40.000 Your point, you found a hole, a divorce, right, in the armor, and you're exploiting to try to get info.
00:24:47.000 And the best you can find is some kind of fringe benefits that weren't correctly taxed.
00:24:52.000 Wait, so this is not even like source of income.
00:24:56.000 This is not some sort of foreign collusion hoax.
00:25:00.000 We're talking about hundreds of people that have been dedicated to this, and they find that Weiselberg, his family might have got tuition payments.
00:25:10.000 Right.
00:25:10.000 But and apartment or cars, isn't the remedy usually just money?
00:25:15.000 Right.
00:25:16.000 Isn't the remedy usually like, okay, yeah, I'll pay the taxes?
00:25:19.000 Yeah, it's $5,000.
00:25:20.000 And civil pit.
00:25:21.000 Exactly.
00:25:22.000 $5,000 of taxes.
00:25:23.000 Let's write the check.
00:25:24.000 Sorry, we didn't account for this.
00:25:25.000 Right.
00:25:26.000 They're making it some kind of criminal enterprise against the Trump organization that is seen as the dark emperor of New York City.
00:25:34.000 So if they are all of a sudden saying, if the position of our government is that if you misuse company resources, even slightly, they're going to indict the entire state of North Dakota.
00:25:46.000 I mean, the point is that this is now the standard of criminal indictment.
00:25:53.000 So is this a federal?
00:25:55.000 So walk us through.
00:25:56.000 So this is at the state level.
00:25:57.000 So this is state tax law that hasn't, you know, that the elements of the crime will be that when you file your state taxes, that you have to say we did X with X money and therefore we're in Y tax bracket.
00:26:11.000 And if that income or outcome, outgoing statements of your liability shifts your tax burden, well, then you may have a couple more thousand dollars to pay.
00:26:20.000 And I mean in the context of an apartment somebody may have lived in for six months because the building had an empty apartment.
00:26:28.000 The crazy thing is Ron Fichetti, who is a defense attorney here in town, really good attorney, he said that these kind of charges have never been filed ever before as related to criminal law and tax benefits.
00:26:42.000 He even said, I can't believe I'm going to have to try a case like this.
00:26:44.000 It's crazy.
00:26:45.000 So to say it's not politically motivated, I mean, you have to be living in some kind of, you know, fictional reality to say the real purpose is not to just mar the name of the Trumps.
00:26:57.000 And again, our position is not that someone didn't do something wrong.
00:27:00.000 Right.
00:27:01.000 Go show me a businessman in New York City that has run any one of these real estate empires, any one of these guys, and we're pointing at buildings, any one of them.
00:27:09.000 And I want you to go through their books for two years.
00:27:11.000 I want you to go through their expense reimbursements.
00:27:14.000 And you're trying to tell me you're not going to have maybe some potential like, oh, sorry, I should remedy this.
00:27:20.000 And by the way, isn't there a standard of if a CPA or something signs off on this, isn't the liability on them?
00:27:28.000 I mean, yeah, that's a good point, Charlie, because as an attorney, you know, we sign contracts with people that say, hey, we're going to do this kind of work for you, but you can never sign away liability for legal analysis that you do.
00:27:40.000 Okay, so in the same, you're right.
00:27:42.000 In the same way, there's a fiduciary dude of a financial agent.
00:27:46.000 If they make a mistake on the books, it's on them.
00:27:49.000 It's on them specifically.
00:27:50.000 Especially if you go, if you do a specific chart of accounts type situation, and maybe that wasn't a circumstance here.
00:27:59.000 And just I'm just perplexed by this, David.
00:28:01.000 This is really bad for our country, not just because of the Trump thing, and it's a distraction and all the obvious things.
00:28:07.000 But do you know what this is telling our listeners right now in Riverside, California that like President Trump?
00:28:12.000 What this is telling them, or maybe it's our listeners in Atlanta or in Dallas, or they're watching on Rumble, like, hold on a second.
00:28:18.000 So you're trying to tell me that Hunter Biden can do what we know he did and he can just continue to sell paintings for half a million dollars to continue to bring money to the Biden crime family, that you're trying to tell me that Eric Swalwell can sleep with a Chinese spy, that Hillary Clinton can bash and smash devices, that Hunter Biden can get on Air Force 2 and fly to Joe Biden.
00:28:40.000 Now, if the standard is that if you're close to power, no one gets indicted unless you murder someone, I don't like that, but at least you're consistent, right?
00:28:48.000 If that's kind of like in the unspoken rule, right?
00:28:51.000 Like the FBI guidelines, like we're not going to go after you because we don't want to seem political, fine, okay.
00:28:56.000 But if you're going to go after now Donald Trump's Trump organization, on the way you're describing it is like, oh, he had a car or used an apartment, had tuition payments.
00:29:04.000 These are always remedied in civil type penalties.
00:29:08.000 Is that the new standard now?
00:29:09.000 Yeah, I mean, isn't it exactly reminiscent of the Dinesh D'Souza Twitch hunt?
00:29:14.000 And how is it that a normal person in our country doesn't say, not only is the mainstream left, not only is the media left, but our entire prosecutorial system is raging towards the left?
00:29:27.000 And this is totalitarianism.
00:29:29.000 Yeah.
00:29:30.000 It's terrifying for any normal conservative in a city like New York, like me and my friends here in New York City to say they're spending years to find minute charges against people that they just don't like ideologically.
00:29:42.000 Well, and meanwhile, crime in New York City is up 30.4% in April 2021.
00:29:47.000 Police say the greatest increase in crime came from shootings, as I say, up 166%.
00:29:53.000 Police also noted that grand larceny was up 66%.
00:29:56.000 Felony assaults were up by 35.6% and robberies increased by 28.6%.
00:30:01.000 Well, maybe instead of going through the receipts of a former president and just maybe you should just hand it off to the tax division and say, just make them pay a fine.
00:30:09.000 Let's go after the rapists.
00:30:11.000 Instead, the priority number one of the Manhattan District Attorney is not whether or not cocaine is coming through the tunnel or whether heroin is coming to the Upper West Side or whether guns are being smuggled through Midtown.
00:30:22.000 No, it's whether or not the former president paid his taxes.
00:30:24.000 That's right.
00:30:25.000 And all of the other litany of crimes, homelessness has been out of control in New York City.
00:30:25.000 Yeah.
00:30:30.000 And that was something that Rudy Giuliani took care of and it created an environment for flourishing.
00:30:37.000 So we got a great email.
00:30:38.000 I love the wisdom of our listeners.
00:30:40.000 You guys should email us your thoughts.
00:30:42.000 Raymond emailed us, the great hunters went out on a safari and came back with a mouse.
00:30:49.000 That's exactly right.
00:30:51.000 And so, David, let's talk about where this leads us as far as what they're willing to do with the criminal justice system.
00:30:59.000 You're a lawyer.
00:31:00.000 You're an attorney.
00:31:01.000 Crime is going up all over the place in New York City.
00:31:03.000 We are seeing this once great city become something dystopian and unrecognizable.
00:31:09.000 We were kind of going back and forth, what is it going to take for just people that might be on the center left to say, this is not okay, but this is an abuse of power.
00:31:18.000 Or is it this kind of authoritarian moment where people are saying, well, I don't mind authoritarianism because I'm a member of the party.
00:31:24.000 Right.
00:31:25.000 Yeah, I mean, I think you have that from certainly a majority perspective here in the city, obviously, massively left-leaning city.
00:31:31.000 But, you know, I was thinking, Charlie, about this idea of a peace officer and how police used to be seen as peace officers.
00:31:38.000 And you need peace when there's chaos in the streets.
00:31:41.000 But when you have a Giuliani that comes in and brings law and orders and loves the cops and the cops are honored and you have peace in the city, you forget that the job of prosecutors, that the job of the police force, that the job of the executive branch is to make sure you have peace in your city.
00:31:57.000 And when there's peace in the city in a generic way, people are like, oh, I don't care if the AG spends millions of dollars on a witch hunt against the Trump organization.
00:32:06.000 What I do care about is nothing.
00:32:09.000 My martinis and my cars and my job.
00:32:12.000 But as the city is starting to tremble with crime and with homelessness, then people will remember, oh, yeah, we need peace.
00:32:19.000 That's the first order of any city or state government is for there to be peace in the midst of people.
00:32:25.000 Or else you can't transact business.
00:32:27.000 You can't have a family.
00:32:28.000 You can't function like a normal human being if you're going to be stabbed with a screwdriver on the subway, which happened a couple of months ago here in New York City.
00:32:36.000 Seriously.
00:32:37.000 Yeah, somebody got a tourist got stabbed with the screwdriver.
00:32:41.000 Come to New York for the food.
00:32:42.000 You stay because you got mugged.
00:32:44.000 And so now we see the top levels of government that have investigated President Trump for years.
00:32:51.000 And the best they can come up with is expense reimbursement type issues.
00:32:57.000 And so, meanwhile, Hillary Clinton walks free.
00:32:59.000 Peter Strzok was never indicted.
00:33:01.000 Lisa Page was never indicted.
00:33:04.000 James Comey was never indicted.
00:33:05.000 Clapper or Brennan were never indicted.
00:33:07.000 Hunter Biden will walk free.
00:33:10.000 Then we also have the entire organization, the entire group of Democrats seem to do whatever they do.
00:33:16.000 And again, like I said, I wouldn't like it if there was kind of this political détente.
00:33:20.000 We're not going to go after former presidents.
00:33:22.000 We're not going to go after people in the top levels of politics unless it's first-degree murder.
00:33:26.000 And I know that sounds extreme.
00:33:27.000 The point is that that power will be abused.
00:33:30.000 And that seems to be, that's the way it used to be, right?
00:33:33.000 Kind of turn a blind eye, like, oh, they're close to power.
00:33:35.000 We don't want to use.
00:33:36.000 Now it seems as if we are now in this struggle where it's we're in charge, you're not.
00:33:40.000 We're going to put you in prison.
00:33:42.000 We're going to put these people around you in prison.
00:33:44.000 And you've talked about this quite a bit, Charlie, that the left is far, far more aggressive than the right in the United States with law, with policy, with politically affirmative action in their positions of authority.
00:33:57.000 Like, what is what are the right doing?
00:33:59.000 And where do you see, conversely, the right going after, you know, the Obamas or nothing at all?
00:34:06.000 And we have a conservative class in the United States that just has kind of rolled over and allowed people like the AG of New York State to spend millions of dollars without doing anything about it.
00:34:19.000 We have a, there's a cause of action called malicious prosecution that if the prosecution ends up being wrong and being, you know, he gets off, it's all false.
00:34:29.000 We don't know because we haven't seen the charges.
00:34:30.000 But they're going to stack the jury.
00:34:32.000 I mean, that's the way it's kangaroo court.
00:34:33.000 Well, and they don't usually go to trial if they have zero evidence.
00:34:36.000 They'll have some kind of evidence and then a malicious prosecution charge will be hard to do.
00:34:40.000 But why don't we have a conservative outrage, especially in New York State that's been saying, you guys have spent two years on this investigation and have almost nothing.
00:34:49.000 Yes.
00:34:50.000 And I don't think they're done.
00:34:51.000 I mean, I think they have a list of other conservatives they want to go after and people around Trump's orbit.
00:34:56.000 I'm going to reemphasize this point, David.
00:34:58.000 We'll have you back tomorrow, which is we have one side that is enthusiastic about using political power and our side is terrified.
00:35:06.000 We are playing badminton.
00:35:08.000 They are playing rugby.
00:35:09.000 They're playing for keeps.
00:35:11.000 And I wish that wasn't the case.
00:35:12.000 I wish we all wanted the same thing and we could unify and have this wonderful, terrific moment.
00:35:18.000 Instead, they have made Trump spend millions of dollars just to try to put him in a prison cell when he's golfing at Mar-a-Lago or at Bedminster while the city falls into disarray.
00:35:30.000 And this was something that, again, goes back to Orwell.
00:35:33.000 My goodness, was he right?
00:35:34.000 Airstrip 1 would go to, which was London, was complete and total chaos and fall into total disarray.
00:35:41.000 But at least they went after the dissidents.
00:35:44.000 That's always what their focus was.
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