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00:01:29.000If you were able to view billions and billions and billions of lines of data, who would you think is going to win the presidential election?
00:01:40.000Mark Zuckerberg, who of course has the artificial intelligence capacity to see billions and billions and billions of lines of data of hundreds of millions of Americans, wrote a letter yesterday to Chairman Jordan.
00:01:54.000I'm going to read the letter in its entirety.
00:01:59.000Chairman Jordan, I appreciate the committee's interest in content moderation on online platforms.
00:02:05.000As you are aware, Meta has produced thousands of documents as part of your investigation and made a dozen employees available for transcribed interviews.
00:02:14.000Further to our cooperation with your investigation, I welcome the opportunity to share what I've taken away from this process.
00:02:21.000There's a lot of talk right now about how the U.S.
00:02:23.000government interacts with companies like Meta, and I want to be clear about our position.
00:02:29.000We're about promoting speech and helping—by the way, notice not free speech, just speech.
00:02:34.000We're about promoting speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.
00:02:39.000As part of this, we regularly hear from governments around the world and others with various concerns around public discourse and public safety.
00:02:48.000In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor and satire, and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didn't agree.
00:03:04.000Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take down our content.
00:03:08.000We own our decisions, including COVID-19-related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure.
00:03:14.000I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it.
00:03:19.000I also think we had some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information, we wouldn't make today.
00:03:27.000Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction.
00:03:36.000We're ready to push back if something like this happens again.
00:03:38.000Now, I'm going to keep on reading this letter, but let me just say, looking back at 2020 and 2021, there's a lot of regret, a lot of, I wish I would have.
00:03:45.000You are living through, right now, another COVID-type hysteria.
00:04:44.000The letter finishes by saying, apart from content moderation, I want to address the contributions I made during the last presidential cycle to support electoral infrastructure, otherwise known as Zuckerbucks or Zuckerboxes.
00:04:59.000The idea here was to make sure local election jurisdictions across the country had the resources they needed to help people vote safely during a global pandemic.
00:05:11.000I made these contributions through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
00:05:15.000They were designed to be nonpartisan, spread across urban, rural, and suburban communities.
00:05:21.000Still, despite the analyses I've seen showing otherwise, I know some people believe this work benefited one party over the other, and it did.
00:05:28.000It heavily benefited Joe Biden and the Democrat Party.
00:05:31.000My goal is to be neutral, not play a role either way, or even to appear to be playing a role.
00:05:35.000So I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle, Mark Zuckerberg.
00:05:41.000Number one, the contribution absolutely did benefit Joe Biden, but he's not doing it this time.
00:05:47.000The person who designed the Zuckerbach strategy is now the campaign manager and senior advisor of the Kamala Harris campaign, David Plouffe.
00:05:55.000So there's multiple interpretations of this letter.
00:05:58.000Let me lead with one that I think can give us a fair amount of hope.
00:06:04.000We do not know exactly what is behind this letter, but we understand that Mark Zuckerberg's worldview is about Mark Zuckerberg.
00:07:17.000But there's another interpretation here.
00:07:20.000And it's far more cynical, but hopeful for those of us that want to see Donald J. Trump elected as President of the United States.
00:07:28.000Mark Zuckerberg wants to be on the right side of this election.
00:07:34.000The other interpretation is that Mark Zuckerberg wants to be friendly with whoever is going to win.
00:07:40.000Now, outside of a public opinion poll from the New York Times' Sienna, outside of a poll that CNN could do or Fox News could do, who would probably have the most amount of accurate data of who is going to win the election?
00:07:58.000You would think the social media companies that are monitoring keystrokes, postings, liking, commenting, especially with the advent of artificial intelligence, Mark Zuckerberg has probably, however we can't prove it, has probably directed his team to do an eight-year analysis of every major election Analyzing the data, analyzing what it looks like when a candidate is going to win, and then issue a report of, hey, who's going to win this November?
00:08:33.000Again, this is somewhat speculation, but Zuckerberg is a very, very smart pro-Facebook advocate.
00:08:41.000He likely told his team, go and analyze these billions of lines of data.
00:08:47.000What Canada is being talked about more, what regions, what areas.
00:08:51.000Mark Zuckerberg has a backdoor into the American psyche more so than anybody else, and only God Almighty knows more about the private thoughts, political affiliations, and motivations of the country.
00:09:08.000Mark Zuckerberg literally knows what over 130 million people are thinking and doing on an hourly, minute-by-minute basis.
00:09:17.000Big Tech, who runs enough algorithms on human behavior, probably has a good sense of who is going to win.
00:09:26.000You can speculate that this is why you are starting to see Zuckerberg trying to come clean.
00:09:34.000There is no way his data doesn't reveal some realities that basic polling can't.
00:09:43.000The law of large numbers dictates billions of interactions.
00:09:48.000And they could potentially be modeled into outcome and behavioral analysis.
00:09:54.000Mark Zuckerberg likely told his team, guys, tell me who's going to win.
00:09:57.000Go run all the algorithms, do a retroactive analysis of the 2016 election, 2018 election, 2020, and 2022.
00:10:05.000And then run the algorithm again of who you think is going to win in 2024 based on all of that data, based on what you are seeing, based on all of the chatter.
00:10:17.000And it is likely that we can assume that his team said, sir, based on everything we see, Donald J. Trump, based on the billions of lines of data, is going to win.
00:10:29.000Now, that's not a guarantee, but it's a potential explanation for this bombshell, unexpected letter of contrition from one of the world's wealthiest men and tech titans, the Chairman Jordan.
00:11:07.000Mark Zuckerberg is writing this letter.
00:11:11.000Because he is seeing something on the back end of Meta, which is America's largest data company, maybe besides Microsoft, is seeing something below the surface that the media might be missing.
00:11:29.000Meta is much more accurate than a polling firm.
00:11:34.000If you were to have Mark Zuckerberg alone in a room and you said, Mark Zuckerberg, you either get life in prison, just hypothetically, or you tell us what you know about the data of who's going to win the election.
00:12:18.000What content on Facebook is resonating?
00:12:24.000MEDA can take the political temperature of the country far more accurately than the New York Times, than the Wall Street Journal, than any other polling agency.
00:12:38.000Because they have a window into 130 million Americans.
00:12:46.000And they aggregate all of that data, and maybe Mark Zuckerberg and his team have become even better at analyzing it, and predicting it, and modeling it.
00:12:58.000You see, Zuckerberg does not write a letter like this.
00:13:04.000If a Democrat victory was inevitable, and that should give every single one of you in this audience hope.
00:13:11.000And I say, oh, Charlie, they're going to steal it.
00:13:17.000If it was a foregone conclusion that Donald Trump was going to lose.
00:13:24.000If it was a foregone conclusion that Donald Trump, they were going to steal it no matter what, Mark Zuckerberg would have bent the knee and said, Chairman Jordan, go pound sand.
00:14:35.000Then the letter would have been composed completely differently.
00:14:38.000It would have been published completely differently.
00:14:42.000And back in 2020, that might explain why Mark Zuckerberg wrote the $400 million check for Zuckerboxes.
00:14:49.000It might explain why he wrote the $400 million check to help make Biden's victory possible because he probably saw in the reservoir of data back in 2020, ooh, the country's not that happy with Trump's handling of COVID.
00:15:20.000What is in the best interest of Facebook?
00:15:22.000It's very similar to how someone runs a country.
00:15:24.000He looks at Facebook as his sovereign country.
00:15:28.000What is in the best interest of the real politique of the Facebook nation?
00:15:34.000And he has a, of course he has a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders, but he, he wears meta within his DNA.
00:15:40.000Now you might say, Charlie, I don't trust Zuckerberg.
00:15:43.000That's exactly why this letter is so interesting.
00:15:46.000It's a public letter where he is signaling to you contrition and near apology to the very regime that is currently in power, by the way.
00:15:56.000But might soon no longer be in power because Zuckerberg wants to be able to be close to Trump if Trump wins and he might see the rumbling precursors, the tremors, before a political earthquake coming in November that would displace Harris from office.
00:19:02.000They can also see your age and demographic profile.
00:19:06.000I mean, from a political trajectory standpoint, or a political analysis standpoint, it's a gold mine.
00:19:15.000So Zuckerberg is telling us something.
00:19:17.000And he's telling us, at the very least, the most modest interpretation.
00:19:22.000Zuckerberg wrote that letter giving everybody in the MAGA movement, everyone that supports President Trump, clarity that we have a very good chance to win.
00:19:35.000And one of the reasons why the movement is ascendant, especially on all these platforms, Is we are seeing more and more traditional Democrats join our ranks.
00:20:56.000So Tulsi Gabbard officially endorses Donald Trump, showing that this is the unity party versus the unit party.
00:21:02.000Former Democrats, former Bernie Sanders folks, people that want peace, prosperity, common sense, competency, transparency, and an end of corruption.
00:21:43.000I had the privilege of joining President Trump this morning at Arlington Cemetery, and I can tell you as we were there, as he laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, joining these Marines, loved ones, I felt the sorrow that he shared with them in their loss.
00:22:05.000I felt and saw his sincere appreciation For these servicemen and women who paid the ultimate price and their loved ones who continue to grieve to this day.
00:22:20.000So I mean what I say when I share with you that I know that President Trump understands the grave responsibility that a president and commander-in-chief bears for every single one of our lives.
00:22:33.000Whether you're a soldier, you're an airman, a marine, sailor, or a coastie, he keeps us in his heart in the decisions that he makes.
00:22:43.000This is a former Democrat candidate for the presidency.
00:22:48.000Former co-chair of the DNC, she was a darling of the Democrat Party.
00:22:55.000She was a regime-selected spokesperson.
00:23:00.000And similar to Elon Musk, similar to RFK, similar to Donald Trump, they all left a place of left-wing comfort and found a new purpose in fighting for the country they love.
00:23:20.000Those are people that left where things were easy, but the country was collapsing and they wouldn't be able to live with themselves, and they decided to fight for liberty, for the citizen, and for we the people.
00:24:16.000I am proud to stand here before you today, whether you're a Democrat, a Republican, or an Independent.
00:24:26.000If you love our country as I do, if you cherish peace and freedom as we do, I invite you to join me in doing all that we can to save our country and elect President Donald J. Trump and send him back to the White House to do the tough work of saving our country and serving the people.
00:24:48.000Which movement is the one that is adding and multiplying?
00:24:55.000It's the movement that is being relentlessly attacked and criticized by the media.
00:25:19.000The Democrat Party is the party of the very wealthy, the very poor, and the very radical.
00:25:25.000Outside of that, there is not a home for the moderate, the free thinker, for the plumber, the electrician, the welder, the police officer, the firefighter.
00:25:35.000There is not a home in the Democrat Party for them.
00:25:38.000The Democrat Party is increasingly hostile to the rank and file of labor.
00:25:42.000The Democrat Party is hostile to the entrepreneur, the small business owner, the parent, to families.
00:25:49.000They have vasectomies and abortion trucks outside of the DNC.
00:25:53.000The Democrat Party wants to give no interest, no down payment loans to foreigners in the state of California.
00:28:01.000That's how you carry the state of Arizona.
00:28:04.000Getting into the communities, getting into neighborhoods, talking to your mom, to your dad, your uncle, your aunt, your cousin, your niece, your nephew, your Uber driver, the person serving you food, the people that bring a lunch pail to work to commit 100 to chase 100.
00:29:14.000They did not mention defund the police.
00:29:15.000They did not mention abortions on demand and paid for everybody all the time, but they got close to that one.
00:29:21.000No, but they had to pretend they were something they were not because the heart and soul of the Democrat Party is so out of lockstep with the rest of the country.
00:29:30.000So they have to lie, they have to deceive, they have to camouflage, they have to pretend to be an organization and a movement, a political party, that they are not.
00:29:40.000And one of the most egregious examples that should be laughed at and she should be humiliated is the front page of Axios.com this morning.
00:29:48.000Because Kamala's data is showing her something.
00:29:51.000You are going to lose on the issue of immigration.
00:29:55.000So Kamala Harris, the border czar, who once called walls racist, and that walls don't work, flip-flops on building the border wall.
00:30:12.000Kamala Harris is just the latest example.
00:30:15.000of flip-flopping on past liberal positions.
00:30:19.000If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border, a project she once opposed and called un-American during the Trump administration.
00:30:33.000This shows how soulless Kamala Harris is, by the way.
00:30:37.000This shows that she has no moral center whatsoever.
00:31:30.000So she's so in favor of a border wall that she stopped construction, sued of it, called it racist, said that it shouldn't happen, and now sold the materials for a major discount allegedly.
00:31:44.000Harris is embracing a more hawkish immigration policy as Donald Trump's campaign spends tens of millions of dollars attacking her about the border.
00:32:19.000Oh, there's no way that people are going to believe Kamala Harris is tough on the border.
00:32:22.000Every two years here in Arizona, we see some Democrat running for office, running tens of millions of dollars of advertising, Mark Kelly, Kyrsten Sinema, doing their slow-motion walk next to the border wall, and voters buy it.
00:32:36.000Kamala Harris says in Axios, she still has significant differences with Trump on immigration, opposing his approach to family separation and his plans for mass deportations.
00:32:46.000It's not family separation, first of all Axios, it's making sure the kid is not being raped by the person that they are being brought across with.
00:32:53.000So you do not have 320,000 child sex slaves like we do right now in our country.
00:33:03.000Kamala Harris is now All about building the wall.
00:33:09.000Now, outside of the fraud of this, this should give you hope.
00:33:13.000It shows that the belief system of the American people is so in the conservative Trump direction that Kamala Harris has to accommodate her positions so dramatically, fraudulently, in a fake way, that the body politic of this country Is center-right.
00:33:38.000The center-left of America is getting discredited rapidly.
00:33:41.000On police, on crime, on homelessness, on the economy, on taxes, on immigration, on war.
00:33:48.000They can't actually run on anything that they believe in.
00:33:52.000They have to run as moderate Republicans.
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00:36:00.000I actually still think that Harris' bump was not big enough to give her a comfortable—to say that she's a favorite, to feel confident to say that.
00:36:10.000Trump has been leading for over a year.
00:36:12.000It's hard to reset, as you hear people say.
00:36:16.000It's hard to reset that considering people still trust Trump on the issues.
00:36:20.000So looking out of the convention, if you're Kamala Harris, you really wanted to see an 8 point, 10 point lead like Hillary and Biden had.
00:36:28.000I went back and looked after the DNC in 2016.
00:36:32.000In our polling, it took about four days, but Hillary got a five point bump and then it evaporated by the end of two weeks.
00:36:38.000So if you're Harris, I don't, I mean, I don't really care what these people are saying.
00:36:42.000It's not the position you want to be in.
00:37:51.000So what they're doing, I would say, Charlie, the, I think the most accurate way to describe it is that they know about these response bias issues.
00:37:58.000They're exploiting them for a narrative.
00:38:01.000And then we have these other scams, which is people holding polls for two weeks.
00:39:46.000Now, I know people are much, and some people around, you know, Trump supporters, You know, behind the scenes, feel much more confident about Pennsylvania.
00:39:58.000This is now the third cycle, presidential cycle, where we're seeing this dynamic with the big three, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
00:40:05.000Michigan kind of looks like it pulls better for Trump.
00:40:07.000Pennsylvania looks like it pulls better than Wisconsin and is somewhere in the middle.
00:40:11.000And then Wisconsin looks like it's pulling worse and more Democratic, so worse for Trump than the other three.
00:40:16.000In reality, in both cycles, Wisconsin voted more for Trump, then Pennsylvania was in the middle, and then it was Michigan.
00:40:24.000So it's a telltale sign that we are once again headed for a polling miss.
00:40:29.000And I don't know if you've heard this, I'm just going to say it.
00:40:33.000A certain pollster that everybody loves and calls the gold standard of the Midwest is apparently withholding a poll that shows Trump very strong in Iowa.
00:40:42.000If he is winning Iowa by the margin that poll found, which I'm just going to tell you right now is 19 points.
00:41:50.000She doesn't publish a poll that would be good for Trump?
00:41:54.000Or bad for a Democrat that doesn't want her to publish it.
00:41:58.000So in 2020, she spiked a poll because the Biden campaign and the Buttigieg campaign were complaining about the results.
00:42:06.000It had Biden in fourth and it had Bernie Sanders ahead.
00:42:09.000The official reason is that they had gotten wind that one of the interviewers didn't ask during one interview about Pete Buttigieg because her screen was zoomed in And as she was reading the prompts, it cut off Pete Buttigieg and she forgot to ask that particular respondent.
00:42:28.000So what did the Des Moines Register polls show in 2020, right before the election?
00:43:00.000I mean, the overlapping, it's getting so much deeper than, you know, race.
00:43:06.000The overlapping ancestry and ethnicity.
00:43:09.000There's particular Scandinavians in the Midwest that are all, you know, you have Finns and Swedes that are scattered in Minnesota and they're much more liberal, right?
00:43:17.000But in Wisconsin and in Iowa, you have Norwegians, which are so, they delivered the Midwest to Trump in 16.
00:43:25.000And I mean, people should read the Emerging Republican Majority by Kevin Phillips.
00:43:36.000And they simply don't vote differently.
00:43:38.000So Southwestern Wisconsin, And the western part, Sauk, you know, Rust, all the way up to the northwest of what we call the Lumberjack area of Wisconsin.
00:43:49.000Trump does better than normal Republicans there.
00:43:51.000There are three blue counties, but he gets in the 40s.