The Charlie Kirk Show - June 14, 2024


Megyn Kelly on Trump, The Trans Movement, and Real Women


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Megan Kelly joins the program to discuss the Law Fair vs. Trump Law Fair, the trans issue, and much more! Join us for the People s Convention in Detroit, Michigan on June 14-16, 2024.

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00:00:00.000 Megan Kelly joins the program.
00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:03.000 That's right, an exclusive interview with Megan Kelly about the law fair against Donald Trump and the trans issue and more.
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00:03:18.000 Megan Kelly, welcome back.
00:03:20.000 Thanks for having me.
00:03:21.000 So you went viral a week and a half ago where you said we need more Steve Bannon energy in reaction to the law fair.
00:03:30.000 What do you mean by that?
00:03:31.000 Well, I mean, it's been well documented that he was, I guess you could say, my chief antagonist.
00:03:37.000 That's what I found so interesting.
00:03:38.000 Yeah.
00:03:39.000 Chief rival.
00:03:40.000 Oh, big time.
00:03:40.000 I mean, I encourage everybody to go to this, go to YouTube and type in PBS Frontline, Steve Bannon, Megan Kelly, and then watch that seven-minute clip and you'll know exactly what we're talking about.
00:03:49.000 It's riveting.
00:03:49.000 PBS did a good job with it.
00:03:51.000 He cooperated and I did too on the special they did a couple years ago.
00:03:54.000 But he lays it all out what he did in response to that debate question, which I'm aware he didn't like and Trump didn't like.
00:04:00.000 Fair enough.
00:04:02.000 And it caused a lot of upheaval and upheaval in my life and kind of a very highly unpleasant nine months.
00:04:07.000 We got past it, whatever.
00:04:09.000 But it kept renewing over the nine, 10 years that we've been at this.
00:04:15.000 And while I've never really been a chief antagonist of his, I've definitely been critical of him.
00:04:20.000 So there's been this, right?
00:04:21.000 Yes.
00:04:23.000 But I don't think he's my enemy, but I think the old the enemy of my enemy is my friend adage applies.
00:04:31.000 He knows how to fight.
00:04:32.000 He knows how to fight dirty.
00:04:34.000 Yes.
00:04:35.000 And but within the lines, but you know, up against them.
00:04:39.000 And that's what we need.
00:04:40.000 I just feel like desperate times.
00:04:42.000 Yes.
00:04:42.000 That's where we are now.
00:04:44.000 I'm sick of the clean hands crowd. 0.63
00:04:46.000 Like, we need to stay above it. 1.00
00:04:48.000 You know, let them be the dirty ones.
00:04:50.000 No, we're losing. 0.98
00:04:51.000 Yes.
00:04:52.000 They tried to take out a presidential candidate.
00:04:53.000 No, that's right.
00:04:54.000 Like, what choice do we have?
00:04:55.000 We didn't want to fight this way.
00:04:57.000 We didn't want this fight in general, but it's here.
00:05:00.000 So we have no choice but to fight it.
00:05:02.000 I couldn't agree more.
00:05:03.000 And just, I want more of your thoughts on the unprecedented nature here, the lawfare, the lack of caring by some Republicans.
00:05:11.000 Do you think that there's a wish that this all just goes away, like it's a bad thunderstorm, that it's going to kind of just sort itself out and just wait long enough, make the noise stop type thing?
00:05:21.000 Well, I think a lot of them don't like Trump, so they're not willing to fight as hard for Trump.
00:05:24.000 You know, secretly, they know they have to say they like him.
00:05:27.000 But I think a lot of these guys actually aren't big fans of his, and so maybe they're not feeling as motivated as if it were somebody they really loved.
00:05:34.000 But it's not about Trump.
00:05:36.000 It's about the country.
00:05:37.000 Yes, it's much bigger than Trump.
00:05:38.000 It is.
00:05:39.000 It's so much bigger than Trump. 1.00
00:05:40.000 So, like, if you don't fight now, you're pathetic. 1.00
00:05:42.000 I'm over. 0.99
00:05:43.000 But to your credit, Megan, and I think it shows that you really love the country and you're willing to elevate it.
00:05:48.000 Again, you and Steve, whatever, have had an interesting mixed history.
00:05:51.000 You and Trump also as well.
00:05:52.000 But you say the country matters more than all of that.
00:05:55.000 That's like silly, you know, TV stuff.
00:05:58.000 It's like, it's not beanbag, as they say. 0.89
00:05:58.000 That's politics. 0.89
00:06:00.000 So you got to get in, take a look at the.
00:06:01.000 What is it about you where you're willing to say that where other people like Jonah Goldberg go on CNN?
00:06:06.000 Like, what has happened to that guy?
00:06:08.000 We had this bizarre exchange where I was like, look, he got all upset because I didn't consider them completely fair and balanced when it came to Trump.
00:06:08.000 I don't know.
00:06:16.000 Whatever.
00:06:17.000 I really think he's been so embattled for so long with his side.
00:06:22.000 You know, like he tried to stop the party from going Trump and he couldn't do it.
00:06:26.000 And he felt like a man on an island and became very never Trumpy.
00:06:30.000 He wasn't just like a sometimes Trumper.
00:06:32.000 And that leads to ostracization in a party that is Trump's.
00:06:36.000 And he got kind of, I don't know, really wrapped around the axle.
00:06:40.000 But there's like the small group of people like him, Bill Crystal, Adam Kinzinger, where, I mean, they seem as if they've just been broken mentally by this whole thing.
00:06:49.000 Like they don't look well.
00:06:50.000 I think Jonah is still a Republican.
00:06:52.000 Those other two are not Republicans.
00:06:54.000 Oh, no, I agree with that.
00:06:54.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:06:56.000 They don't say any Republican or conservative things.
00:06:58.000 They've gone full, you know, Steve Schmidt.
00:07:01.000 Yes, that's right.
00:07:01.000 So there's no rescuing them.
00:07:02.000 But yes, that's the problem with Trump derangement syndrome.
00:07:06.000 And it really is a real thing.
00:07:07.000 It is 100% a real thing.
00:07:09.000 And it can ruin you.
00:07:11.000 Like, it can drive you mad.
00:07:13.000 It can lead to the loss of your friends, yourself, your grooming.
00:07:18.000 No, there needs to be a WebMD.
00:07:20.000 Like, you type in symptoms.
00:07:22.000 Like, constantly upset, can't watch the news.
00:07:25.000 Can't watch a rally.
00:07:25.000 Right.
00:07:26.000 You know, about 100,000 cases a year.
00:07:28.000 Yes.
00:07:28.000 To like very mild to severe.
00:07:30.000 Please consult your doctor.
00:07:31.000 Like the nut case who's harassing Justice Alito.
00:07:35.000 No, of course.
00:07:36.000 By the way, let's talk about that.
00:07:36.000 Right?
00:07:37.000 That was a coordinated hit.
00:07:38.000 Oh.
00:07:39.000 New York Times knows that this might go up to the Supreme Court.
00:07:41.000 They're trying to work the refs.
00:07:43.000 They want to try.
00:07:44.000 Because he has an appeal to heaven flag.
00:07:46.000 Or an upside-down American flag.
00:07:48.000 Who cares?
00:07:48.000 Move on.
00:07:50.000 Honestly, it makes me like him more.
00:07:51.000 I want to do that outside of my house right now.
00:07:52.000 100%.
00:07:53.000 No, because the country's in crisis.
00:07:54.000 I know.
00:07:55.000 So that woman who had the dust up with them, the neighbor, was on CNN.
00:07:59.000 She sounds great. 0.99
00:08:00.000 Oh, my gosh. 0.99
00:08:01.000 But by the way, you know the type.
00:08:03.000 So, but you had to see her, Charlie, because she was like, you know, they were harassing me, and it was very difficult.
00:08:09.000 And yes, I did call her the C-word, and that's very, I'm like, wait, what?
00:08:15.000 She's admitting, and all she did was fly an upside-down flag and say, please take down your F-Trump flags in front of the children at the bus step.
00:08:15.000 What?
00:08:23.000 I think we know who the winner and who the loser is here.
00:08:26.000 No, it's, and so the, you are a part of, I think, a group of people that are really fixated and focused on this Title IX issue as well.
00:08:35.000 Yeah.
00:08:35.000 We covered it a little bit.
00:08:37.000 It's explosive. 0.99
00:08:39.000 The idea of actually what a female is is kind of on the ballot this election. 0.90
00:08:44.000 Is that an over-exaggeration? 1.00
00:08:45.000 That's an over-exaggeration.
00:08:46.000 Not even a little.
00:08:46.000 Not even a little.
00:08:47.000 It has been rewritten by Joe Biden, who the most he knows about women is how to sniff their hair.
00:08:52.000 And with his little pen, he decided we're men now.
00:08:54.000 We're going to add men to the women's category.
00:08:57.000 And while Title IX was originally passed to protect women's sports and make sure that they had the opportunity to play sports, right?
00:09:04.000 It used to be back in the day.
00:09:06.000 There'd be men's soccer, but not women's, and men's, whatever, baseball, no women's softball.
00:09:10.000 Now, because of Title IX, if you're a school that takes public money, you have to offer both.
00:09:15.000 Well, he just shoehorned the trans people into the women's lane and defined women under Title IX as including gender identity.
00:09:23.000 So now he's saying it doesn't cover sports yet.
00:09:27.000 That's a lie.
00:09:28.000 As written with the revision, it does cover sports.
00:09:31.000 And they're going to argue that.
00:09:33.000 And it also mandates explicitly that the men be allowed into our bathrooms, into our locker rooms, not just college, K through college.
00:09:42.000 And also, on a second level, completely removes due process for young men on college campuses.
00:09:48.000 You better not get accused as a young man on a college campus.
00:09:51.000 Like, don't have sex with anybody.
00:09:52.000 Don't touch anybody. 0.70
00:09:53.000 Don't be alone with anybody.
00:09:55.000 Because if you get accused by somebody with a Sunday morning regret, you're going down.
00:09:58.000 That's right.
00:09:59.000 That's how it was under Obama.
00:10:00.000 Trump writed the ship back due process-wise.
00:10:02.000 Now it's been undone again.
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00:11:19.000 So help me understand.
00:11:21.000 It is a deeply unpopular thing that Biden did.
00:11:23.000 I mean, maybe in a couple states, California, Oregon, Washington, Rhode Island, Connecticut, in the midst of an election year.
00:11:29.000 Why do this?
00:11:30.000 Help me understand.
00:11:32.000 He started it earlier.
00:11:33.000 It takes a long time to run.
00:11:35.000 I know that might not be him.
00:11:36.000 Why his team?
00:11:36.000 I mean, I'm trying to understand.
00:11:38.000 They're as far left as they come.
00:11:39.000 There's a fanaticism behind this.
00:11:41.000 They are as far left as they can. 0.99
00:11:42.000 How would you best describe that ideology to an uninitiated person who just, they're like, wait a second, man, women? 1.00
00:11:48.000 I mean.
00:11:49.000 They are people whose entire existence revolves around identity, whether it's sex, sexuality, color, gender.
00:12:00.000 I'll take your pick on the list.
00:12:02.000 Whatever one you have elevates you above people who don't have those issues.
00:12:07.000 And if you have multi-issues, you know, you've got your intersectional, you get extra points.
00:12:12.000 And that's the only time we see conflict within the leftist group, where one of those groups, they have to decide what their priorities are.
00:12:18.000 Higher on the oppression Olympics.
00:12:19.000 And so far, the T's of LGBT are ruling everything. 1.00
00:12:24.000 Yes, that's true.
00:12:24.000 Ruining and ruling.
00:12:25.000 Yes.
00:12:25.000 Everything.
00:12:26.000 No, it's just, it's amazing because it's a decision that had to be made, which is we're trying to win four more years in the White House, and we have in front of us a radically transformational, as you say, multi-year project that is going to basically move a step forward of eradicating womanhood and hilariously actually make men stronger over women, which is like a whole separate issue, which I was always told is the patriarchy and is a terrible thing.
00:12:51.000 Or we don't do that.
00:12:52.000 We wait until we get four more years and then we do the radical stuff.
00:12:55.000 But they decided in an election year to do the crazy unpopular stuff in the radical stuff.
00:12:58.000 They're not embarrassed about it.
00:12:59.000 No, they're proud of it.
00:13:00.000 Yeah, they're proud.
00:13:01.000 Total proud.
00:13:02.000 Did you see what happened to my dog?
00:13:03.000 I posted on Instagram.
00:13:04.000 No, what happened?
00:13:05.000 Sent my dog to daycare, came back on Friday with a little rainbow scarf.
00:13:09.000 Oh, come on. 0.96
00:13:09.000 It was gay care. 0.96
00:13:11.000 He's just like Joe Biden. 0.84
00:13:12.000 He's trying to get out of the way.
00:13:12.000 So they're grooming dogs now?
00:13:13.000 Yeah, they're literally grooming.
00:13:14.000 They're grooming at the groomers.
00:13:16.000 What kind of dog is it?
00:13:17.000 He's a lab.
00:13:18.000 And he's not.
00:13:18.000 Look, he does squat when he pees.
00:13:21.000 I'm just going to own that.
00:13:23.000 But that doesn't, I don't want their weird gender madness on him. 1.00
00:13:25.000 He's still a bad guy.
00:13:26.000 So is it starting to rub off on him a little bit? 0.99
00:13:28.000 No, he's still humping his sister. 0.95
00:13:30.000 That's another problem. 0.97
00:13:31.000 But that's a man thing.
00:13:33.000 But boys will be boys, though.
00:13:34.000 I'm just going to say.
00:13:36.000 That's more incestuous, not so much trans. 1.00
00:13:39.000 It's different.
00:13:40.000 That's a separate issue, though, right?
00:13:42.000 So they're trying to groom dogs.
00:13:44.000 Anyway, but back to the point, they're proud of it because they really think this is empathetic.
00:13:49.000 This is the new gay rights. 0.98
00:13:51.000 It's the same thing.
00:13:52.000 You know, it's inborn.
00:13:54.000 It can't be argued with.
00:13:56.000 If the two-year-old boy wants to experiment by putting on a dress, something lots of little boys have done and then discarded instantly, that means he's a girl.
00:14:04.000 So they really think this is like part of their cross-bearing, you know, that they're going to help these suffering minorities against the evil Republicans who just want to hurt people.
00:14:14.000 I don't want to, I really don't want to generalize. 0.70
00:14:16.000 However, some of the zealots that are pushing this are very nasty people.
00:14:20.000 Some.
00:14:21.000 See, I'm trying not to generalize.
00:14:22.000 You don't need to generalize.
00:14:23.000 Show me one who's not.
00:14:26.000 It's not all trans people. 0.94
00:14:28.000 I actually know and have a couple of trans people who are relatives.
00:14:31.000 Adults.
00:14:32.000 Yes, adults.
00:14:33.000 Big distinction.
00:14:33.000 Total distinction.
00:14:35.000 But the trans activists are the meanest MFers you will ever deal with in your life. 1.00
00:14:41.000 That's right.
00:14:41.000 I love it.
00:14:42.000 Back to the Trump Bannon thing.
00:14:44.000 These men posing as women go all over my timeline and try to intimidate me. 0.97
00:14:49.000 I'm like, I have dealt with tougher men than you.
00:14:53.000 Trust me.
00:14:54.000 I've tossed with the best of them.
00:14:56.000 Yes.
00:14:56.000 And won.
00:14:57.000 And won.
00:14:57.000 So, like, give me a break, right?
00:14:59.000 You don't scare me.
00:15:00.000 They don't do anything about it.
00:15:01.000 They just sit at their keyboards and try to upset actual women for not letting them into the club. 0.97
00:15:06.000 Well, too bad.
00:15:07.000 No, I mean, and there is part of it, again, I don't want to have people live in fear.
00:15:10.000 I mean, there is a very disturbing pattern of violence from that community that kind of goes untalked about.
00:15:15.000 That's true.
00:15:16.000 Right.
00:15:16.000 Aubrey.
00:15:17.000 Or when they do it.
00:15:18.000 Manifesto.
00:15:19.000 It gets totally whitewashing.
00:15:20.000 But again, I don't want to generalize.
00:15:21.000 But back to the specific children issue.
00:15:24.000 You have an amazingly powerful platform and podcast.
00:15:26.000 You have a lot of moms that listen to you.
00:15:28.000 You are kind of, I would say, the over-the-top communicator to the suburban mom demo for anyone that has sanity, right? 0.91
00:15:36.000 That isn't just like on traditional mediums.
00:15:38.000 Do you see movement of people that are rejecting and shedding this that previously might not be like on the Trump training or conservative, but at least they want some recentering of normalcy?
00:15:46.000 Yes.
00:15:47.000 It's so funny.
00:15:48.000 I notice it more and more in my comment sections, in my emails, in the people who stop me on the street and say, thank you, you changed my mind on this issue.
00:15:56.000 Even on the people who, you know, I got this hat from Kelly J. Keene, who's a British activist on this issue, and she's, there's nobody better.
00:16:02.000 And it reads, it looks like the Trump hat, the red hat, and it reads, make women female again. 0.63
00:16:08.000 And you would not believe the number of women if I wear that who come over to me saying, I need it.
00:16:13.000 Where can I get it?
00:16:14.000 I want it.
00:16:15.000 And these are people like in New York.
00:16:17.000 I went to my leftist friend's 50th birthday party.
00:16:20.000 It was all liberals.
00:16:21.000 They were like, we're going to get the hat.
00:16:23.000 Yeah, so this issue is starting to percolate.
00:16:26.000 Do you see that translating politically?
00:16:28.000 Yeah.
00:16:28.000 Well, not for 2020.
00:16:31.000 2024.
00:16:31.000 2024.
00:16:32.000 It hasn't become like a single issue.
00:16:34.000 Should Trump force the issue?
00:16:35.000 Yes, but he hasn't been.
00:16:36.000 No, but let's workshop this because what can he do?
00:16:40.000 What should he do?
00:16:40.000 I mean, like convention, right?
00:16:42.000 Tens of millions of eyeballs. 1.00
00:16:44.000 We will reverse the changes to Title IX and restore sanity in schools when it comes to gender madness.
00:16:50.000 I think he'd be willing to say something like that.
00:16:51.000 I think so too.
00:16:52.000 We will pass a ban at the federal level on the medicalization of minor children who are being mutilated by people trying to prove how woke they are.
00:17:05.000 We will push for federal legislation stopping that to children.
00:17:08.000 And in the debate against Biden, I would, I mean, I'm seeing him again next week, giving, like, put him on the spot.
00:17:14.000 Joe Biden, do you think that kid should be able to get irreversible breast removal surgery or hysterectomies?
00:17:20.000 Why doesn't he ask him a question?
00:17:21.000 Do you know what happens to a child who starts puberty blockers and then goes directly to cross-sex hormones? 0.68
00:17:26.000 Do you know?
00:17:28.000 Oh, Joe Biden wouldn't be able to answer.
00:17:29.000 No, he wouldn't.
00:17:30.000 And we saw it even in the presidential primary on the GOP side.
00:17:33.000 Some people didn't understand that.
00:17:35.000 They're sterile.
00:17:36.000 That's what happens.
00:17:37.000 That's exactly right.
00:17:37.000 They are sterilized.
00:17:38.000 Not only do they lose the ability to have children, they lose the ability to have any sexual pleasure. 0.82
00:17:43.000 You remove the orgasm.
00:17:44.000 Yes, from a 15-year-old, a 13-year-old. 0.92
00:17:48.000 Let him defend it.
00:17:49.000 Ask him a question. 1.00
00:17:50.000 He'll be dead. 0.98
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00:18:53.000 And if you would have said four years ago that the trans issue could end up being like a wedge positive issue for conservative Republicans, because the trajectory looked as if this thing is going to be the next gay marriage. 0.76
00:19:05.000 Just like let it happen.
00:19:06.000 Jenner's on the front page of Vanity Fair.
00:19:08.000 Like, let's put up the white flag.
00:19:10.000 However, this is a different issue.
00:19:13.000 For those that don't, can you tell us why it's different than the gay marriage issue?
00:19:18.000 Why is this different?
00:19:18.000 It's dramatically different.
00:19:20.000 Because, look, being gay actually is a real thing that men have had to deal with and women who are lesbians have had to deal with since the dawn of time.
00:19:28.000 And there's all the evidence about what makes one gay overwhelmingly points to. 0.97
00:19:34.000 It's innate.
00:19:35.000 It's something that somebody's born with.
00:19:37.000 And they can fight if they choose not to live that way.
00:19:40.000 They can.
00:19:40.000 But who has been successfully deprogrammed from homosexuality?
00:19:45.000 I mean, come on.
00:19:46.000 But the trans issue, which is for a minuscule percentage of the population, real, a real disorder. 1.00
00:19:53.000 It's very small.
00:19:54.000 And it's always been here, and we've always been, you know, we recognize this disorder.
00:19:59.000 It's been in the manual that you have.
00:20:00.000 DSM4, DSM-5, yeah.
00:20:02.000 Has exploded at the same time as wokeness has. 0.78
00:20:06.000 And that's just one of the many clues that proves it's a social contagion.
00:20:10.000 And here's another one.
00:20:12.000 It never, unlike being gay or lesbian, never affected girls. 0.96
00:20:16.000 It was a male thing.
00:20:18.000 Only now are suddenly girls getting on the transition. 0.95
00:20:21.000 And more than boys.
00:20:22.000 Yes.
00:20:22.000 More than boys.
00:20:23.000 75%.
00:20:24.000 Which was never the case before.
00:20:25.000 And so what's happening?
00:20:27.000 It used to be when I was growing up, anorexia, right?
00:20:29.000 It would be like clubs cutting was a big thing.
00:20:33.000 It spreads.
00:20:34.000 Yes. 1.00
00:20:34.000 And girls are more susceptible to social spread. 1.00
00:20:36.000 Totally. 1.00
00:20:37.000 And now, think of how susceptible they are where it's a world that prioritizes, as we discussed, identity over all other things.
00:20:44.000 So you're a white, cisgendered, heteronormative girl.
00:20:48.000 You've got nothing to make you feel special.
00:20:51.000 And many of these girls, Charlie, are on the autism spectrum.
00:20:55.000 They're a little heavy. 1.00
00:20:57.000 They have bad acne.
00:20:58.000 There's something that makes them feel socially out, other, different, or, you know, unwanted somehow.
00:21:04.000 And yet they go from being that person to getting snaps, celebrated, they're cool, and they get an immediate community online of all these groomers who are like, welcome to our club.
00:21:15.000 These are weird men trying to get these girls welcome to our club.
00:21:18.000 You're one of us now. 0.53
00:21:20.000 And as soon as they say, I have regrets, they kick them out of the club.
00:21:23.000 The support is gone.
00:21:24.000 The bullying starts.
00:21:26.000 This is not a real...
00:21:27.000 It's a cult operation?
00:21:28.000 Yes.
00:21:29.000 The otherization of anybody who leaves, right?
00:21:31.000 Like, that's one of the telltale signs of cultism.
00:21:35.000 So, and just the mass explosion of this thing, right?
00:21:37.000 Which was like 2%, not even, it was like 0.0017% of the population.
00:21:42.000 And now they're estimating it's like over, I don't know, you see these estimates, like over 20%.
00:21:47.000 There's no way to lie.
00:21:49.000 So, but what then, how would you respond to when the zealots say it's going up because people are finally comfortable knowing who they truly are?
00:21:57.000 That's just not true.
00:21:58.000 Then why is it happening more in the blue cities than the red cities?
00:22:01.000 That's the answer.
00:22:03.000 They'll say because the red cities are so angry and harsh towards them.
00:22:05.000 Then they'd move.
00:22:06.000 They would all leave.
00:22:07.000 There'd be mass departures of 20% of the population to the blue states, and that's not happening.
00:22:11.000 And look, you saw it with the Disney executive.
00:22:15.000 I've seen it with my own friends that I have.
00:22:16.000 And that we're talking about.
00:22:17.000 Our not-so-secret gay agenda. 0.91
00:22:18.000 Yes.
00:22:19.000 And, you know, three of my kids happen to be trans or non-binary.
00:22:23.000 So that's the best argument is that when you actually, and Miriam Grossman's talked about this at length, the friend group thing.
00:22:28.000 Yeah.
00:22:28.000 Where all of a sudden she was treating, like, wait, you guys are all friends with each other?
00:22:32.000 Yes.
00:22:33.000 Five patients, same class, and they're all in the same.
00:22:35.000 That happened in my school.
00:22:36.000 The school we fled from in New York, right?
00:22:39.000 We had a girls' school and we had a boys' school.
00:22:40.000 And the girls' school, which is one of the top schools in the country, this is years ago.
00:22:44.000 We're talking like 2019.
00:22:46.000 Suddenly, in the 10th grade, this is a class of 54 girls maybe, had nine girls who had declared themselves trans from ninth grade to 10th.
00:22:56.000 Come on.
00:22:57.000 So it's newly discovered.
00:22:59.000 They didn't have it their whole lives.
00:23:01.000 And they're girls.
00:23:02.000 And it's a cluster.
00:23:03.000 That is not a real disorder. 0.98
00:23:06.000 That is a social contagion that these girls should be talked out of, therapized out of, not with these psychiatrists who push it, but with like a Miriam Grossman type.
00:23:15.000 Yes. 0.93
00:23:16.000 And honestly, like put on a plane with mom and dad, take a trip to Europe, get in a van with mom and dad, take a trip around the United States, no devices, no social media, and none of these girls around you.
00:23:26.000 And then you'll find out if it's legit or not, which most times, of course it is.
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00:24:30.000 The through line between the trans thing and the legal thing is these are institutions that used to be a bedrock against insanity and be a check. 0.91
00:24:39.000 Two things that growing up I would never think would get radicalized: the courts and my doctor's office.
00:24:45.000 Yeah.
00:24:46.000 I mean, you think in America, those are two things where you could have privacy, that you could be treated as an individual, not as part of a group, that you're not going to weaponize it against somebody and it's not going to be taken over.
00:24:56.000 Can you comment on both of those?
00:24:58.000 Because those are two institutions that used to be sacred or even holy, honestly.
00:25:02.000 Because you think about it in small town America, like the doctor and the lawyer are like the two most trusted people.
00:25:07.000 And now we look at.
00:25:08.000 Maybe the judge, not the lawyer.
00:25:09.000 Sure, but something in the instruments, or maybe the sheriff or whatever.
00:25:14.000 Now it's, I don't trust anything that comes out of our justice system.
00:25:17.000 So I may be in the minority, but I still have hope for the legal system.
00:25:21.000 Please give me hope.
00:25:22.000 I look at the Supreme Court.
00:25:24.000 No, that's true.
00:25:25.000 For the first time in my lifetime, we have a conservative Supreme Court.
00:25:29.000 It's fragile, but they're look.
00:25:31.000 That's such a great trouble.
00:25:32.000 They're pretty robust.
00:25:34.000 Yes.
00:25:34.000 They're pretty robust.
00:25:35.000 That's why they're trying to delegitimize them.
00:25:38.000 Work the reps.
00:25:38.000 We worked at, yeah, I mean, we talked about it.
00:25:41.000 So I still have faith because even though we had a lunatic judge in New York who was really a secret prosecutor, he was our secret prosecutor. 0.84
00:25:49.000 And Ergo on the other guy, too, was crazy. 0.99
00:25:51.000 Oh, he's a nutcase. 0.95
00:25:53.000 Net net, I still believe in the judicial system, and I am thanking God on my knees every night for the Supreme Court.
00:25:59.000 So I haven't given up on that.
00:26:00.000 No, I think that's important.
00:26:02.000 Yeah, please continue though.
00:26:03.000 But the medical profession is lost.
00:26:06.000 It's lost.
00:26:07.000 So you are more pessimistic on medicine than legal.
00:26:09.000 Yes.
00:26:10.000 That's fascinating.
00:26:11.000 Not just because of what they're doing to our kids on the trans thing. 0.99
00:26:14.000 They've captured the American Endocrine Society, the American Academy of Pediatrics.
00:26:19.000 AMA is already long gone.
00:26:20.000 All of it.
00:26:20.000 The psychiatrics, all of them.
00:26:22.000 They're all gone.
00:26:23.000 The only methodology is affirm.
00:26:25.000 As soon as a kid comes in, within minutes, he or she, I'm gender confused, will be affirmed as the cross-sex. 0.58
00:26:31.000 Within 20 minutes.
00:26:32.000 It's so damaging.
00:26:33.000 It is, it's deadly what they're doing.
00:26:36.000 And of course, now sane psychiatrists are saying the last thing you should do is bring your kid to one of these psychiatrists or therapists.
00:26:42.000 So that's deeply problematic.
00:26:44.000 But it's also the wokeness in the medical schools.
00:26:48.000 I mean, we've had more and more institutions cop to.
00:26:52.000 They're promoting people of color into medical school who do not have the grades to get there, who are two standard deviations below their white and Asian colleagues when it comes to the testing. 0.99
00:27:02.000 And then when they get there, they make mistakes in the residency, in the internship, in the middle of the school.
00:27:08.000 And if they aren't overlooked, time after time, they claim racism.
00:27:13.000 And time after time, the doctor or the school or the program backs down.
00:27:18.000 So then they get elevated again.
00:27:20.000 And we're now at the point where these folks are going to be getting out into real practice.
00:27:24.000 That's correct.
00:27:25.000 And there's, where's the check on them?
00:27:27.000 You know who it is? 0.98
00:27:28.000 It's the lawyers who are going to have to sue their asses because that's what we listen to in America, the almighty dollar. 0.97
00:27:34.000 And there's a real question about whether we're going to have a lot of those guys left because the lawyers tend to be leftists. 0.97
00:27:39.000 That's exactly.
00:27:40.000 I mean, that's, so you opened up an interesting point.
00:27:42.000 I want to complete that point, but just as a detour.
00:27:46.000 Where are all these trial, like these plaintiff lawyers going after the trans stuff?
00:27:51.000 There is a new group in Texas.
00:27:54.000 They just formed.
00:27:55.000 Do right now.
00:27:55.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:27:56.000 And so it was guys who saw what was happening and they made millions of dollars.
00:28:00.000 What they need, though, is really money because what happens is they need to fund these lawsuits.
00:28:06.000 They need expert witnesses.
00:28:07.000 You know, when you're the plaintiff, you get paid at the end if you recover money. 1.00
00:28:11.000 So they need donations, independent women's forum. 1.00
00:28:13.000 Good. 1.00
00:28:13.000 They're filing a big lawsuit on Title IX. 1.00
00:28:15.000 They need donations.
00:28:16.000 They're on a round-the-country bus tour with Riley Gaines and others right now trying to get people to donate.
00:28:22.000 So there are a couple of groups, but they need Doe.
00:28:24.000 Yeah, and it's interesting.
00:28:26.000 Texas is known as kind of one of the plaintiff attorney capitals of the world.
00:28:30.000 If you notice when you're driving the highways here, every other billboard is injured in a wreck or if, you know, asbestos or whatever.
00:28:37.000 And again, they'll sue on everything.
00:28:39.000 And you would think that low-hanging fruit is butchering a 15-year-old.
00:28:43.000 Yes.
00:28:45.000 It's so remarkable.
00:28:46.000 So the other part, though, is that I'm sure you would agree that the other part of the broken medical system, reaction to COVID, COVID vaccine, just that I don't trust when someone says, oh, a doctor expert says, I inherently think that you're either purchased or you have an ideological agenda.
00:29:02.000 Same.
00:29:03.000 But in that way, I see COVID as a gift because my eyes were closed prior to COVID on this.
00:29:10.000 I actually did kind of, not implicitly, but kind of trusted our health officials.
00:29:16.000 You know, I did not think they were capable of like mass misrepresentation.
00:29:21.000 That's Alex Jones stuff.
00:29:22.000 That's frankly how I felt.
00:29:23.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:29:24.000 I was like, why would the CDC be lying to us about our kids possibly getting heart damage?
00:29:30.000 Like, what would be the incentive to do such a thing?
00:29:33.000 Like, no, no, that's crazy talk.
00:29:35.000 And now we know it's different.
00:29:36.000 Now we know that's exactly what they were doing.
00:29:40.000 They didn't care.
00:29:41.000 Anthony Fauci, it's very clear to me, cared more about his own reputation and standing with these leftists than he did about the well-being and lives, lives of the American people and the children, too.
00:29:53.000 What does it say that not only is he not apologized, he's more defiant than ever?
00:29:58.000 He really has the God complex.
00:30:00.000 Did you ever see that movie, Malice?
00:30:02.000 You were like in your cradle when this movie hit.
00:30:04.000 I don't think I have.
00:30:04.000 It's good.
00:30:05.000 It's good.
00:30:05.000 You should rent it.
00:30:06.000 Download it.
00:30:06.000 Who's it with?
00:30:07.000 Alec Baldwin and Nicole Kidman.
00:30:09.000 I actually kind of think he's a good actor.
00:30:10.000 That's my thought.
00:30:10.000 He was very good.
00:30:11.000 By the way, my thought, Krems, I think he's actually a good actor.
00:30:13.000 Yeah, same.
00:30:14.000 I enjoy his movies.
00:30:15.000 But I say that people like revolt.
00:30:16.000 Yeah, I don't.
00:30:17.000 He killed a woman.
00:30:19.000 That's true.
00:30:20.000 So he plays this surgeon, and I won't give away the plot, but it's very good.
00:30:26.000 He plays the surgeon, and they get really into the God complex.
00:30:29.000 And that's Anthony Fauci.
00:30:30.000 Watch that movie.
00:30:31.000 That's Anthony Fauci.
00:30:32.000 Megan, what is your message going to be to this group of young women that are awaiting you?
00:30:38.000 I mean, I have a wide-based message today, Charlie.
00:30:41.000 Obviously, we could talk about the female thing, the woman thing, the Title IX thing, but I really have a broader message I want to bring to them today about what it actually does take to succeed as a leader for young women.
00:30:51.000 Because I think they're being sold a bag of goods by those who control the messaging in this country.
00:30:57.000 I really want them to know about the importance of family and husbands.
00:31:01.000 And you have three kids, right?
00:31:03.000 Yeah.
00:31:03.000 It's amazing.
00:31:04.000 And how one can be both a successful professional and a great wife and have a great life and where priorities are.
00:31:10.000 That's such an important message. 0.98
00:31:12.000 And I think you'll hear terms like, don't be a slut, for example. 0.99
00:31:15.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:31:16.000 I've got things to say.
00:31:18.000 Tell me more about that.
00:31:20.000 My basic thought on it is: if you really want a good man, don't give it up so easily.
00:31:25.000 But when you finally do, enjoy it.
00:31:27.000 Boy, if I were to say something like that, it would get clipped.
00:31:30.000 I hope you say it.
00:31:31.000 I'm going to say it.
00:31:32.000 Megan Kelly, how can people support you?
00:31:33.000 We have your book.
00:31:34.000 I don't know if this is recent or not.
00:31:35.000 That's an old one.
00:31:36.000 Just go to youtube.com/slash MeganKelly and hit follow.
00:31:39.000 God bless you.
00:31:39.000 Megan, you are doing such good for the country, and thank you for making time for this.
00:31:42.000 It means a lot.
00:31:42.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:31:43.000 My pleasure.
00:31:43.000 God bless.
00:31:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:31:45.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:47.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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