The Charlie Kirk Show - October 27, 2023


Mike Johnson's Spooky Scary "Christian Nationalism"


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Christian nationalist speaker Mike Johnson says that his Bible is his worldview. What does that actually mean, and why is he being attacked for it? Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk talks about what it means to be a Christian nationalist and why it s important to have a biblical worldview.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Christian nationalism.
00:00:03.000 Ooh, spooky, wild that that has become controversial.
00:00:07.000 Our new speaker says that his Bible is his worldview.
00:00:10.000 What does that actually mean?
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00:01:37.000 If George Washington were alive today and he articulated the views and the values that he held when he helped found this country, he would be smeared as a Christian nationalist.
00:01:47.000 Now, it's been interesting to see how the activist press, the people who want to destroy the country, have been workshopping a way to try and smear, slander, ostracize Christians in America.
00:02:00.000 You see, more and more churches are speaking out.
00:02:02.000 The church founded America.
00:02:05.000 Billy Graham was a huge reason why America never truly went Marxist.
00:02:10.000 He went around and called communism Satan's religion.
00:02:13.000 Did you know Billy Graham said that?
00:02:15.000 The American church has largely become comfortable, quiet, and complicit, no longer fighting against tyranny, doing what they are told.
00:02:25.000 Many pastors across the country say, I only preach the gospel.
00:02:28.000 I'm not going to fight tyranny.
00:02:29.000 But we are starting to see that change.
00:02:31.000 We're doing work at TPUSA Faith.
00:02:33.000 We have highlighted so many of those pastors here on this program: Steve Smotherman, Luke Barnett, Jack Hibbs, so many people, amazing pastors that have been boldly speaking out.
00:02:44.000 We had over 2,000 pastors go through our pastor trainings at TPUSA Faith over the last year.
00:02:49.000 And the media, Rolling Stone, threw this at us.
00:02:52.000 They said, you guys are Christian nationalists.
00:02:54.000 Now, that is a dog whistle. 0.74
00:02:57.000 They're trying to call you Nazis.
00:02:58.000 They just don't want to say it.
00:03:00.000 But they're trying to other you.
00:03:01.000 They're trying to smear you.
00:03:03.000 They're trying to keep you out of the public discourse.
00:03:06.000 And so there's different ways that they try and attack.
00:03:11.000 If they can't attack you personally, for example, if your personal life is rather boring, and if you are loyally married to somebody and you don't have a lot of dirt, they'll immediately then try to make you seem ideologically fringe.
00:03:25.000 So if they can't attack you personally, then they'll go after your worldview.
00:03:28.000 So they're scrambling.
00:03:30.000 How do we attack Mike Johnson?
00:03:32.000 Did he have an affair?
00:03:34.000 Does he have a suspicious marriage?
00:03:37.000 No, he's actually loyally married.
00:03:38.000 He's a godly man.
00:03:39.000 He's a family man.
00:03:40.000 Does he, I don't know, does he embezzle money from foreign countries?
00:03:44.000 No.
00:03:45.000 Okay.
00:03:45.000 Next attack vector.
00:03:47.000 Well, he believes in the Bible.
00:03:49.000 So now the attacks are out, calling Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson, a Christian nationalist.
00:03:56.000 MSNBC.com.
00:03:58.000 Mike Johnson's Christian nationalist track record isn't a mystery.
00:04:01.000 Politico.com, a QA with a historian Kristen Cobbes Dumuze on the Christian nationalist ideas that shaped House Speaker Mike Johnson.
00:04:11.000 And Mike Johnson, to his great credit, is leaning into it.
00:04:14.000 He's saying, you want to know what I believe in?
00:04:16.000 What my worldview is?
00:04:17.000 Pick up a Bible, and that is my worldview.
00:04:19.000 Play cut 133.
00:04:21.000 Someone asked me today in the media, they said, it's curious.
00:04:24.000 People are curious.
00:04:25.000 What does Mike Johnson think about any issue under the sun?
00:04:28.000 I said, well, go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it.
00:04:31.000 That's my worldview.
00:04:32.000 That's what I believe.
00:04:33.000 He believes in a biblical worldview.
00:04:35.000 And I just have to say, just timeout, and we're going to get into some criticism of Mike Johnson because he's been disappointing me on some stuff in this short window.
00:04:42.000 By the way, remember I told you, prepare to be disappointed.
00:04:44.000 But I do have to say this.
00:04:46.000 It is a delight to have somebody in leadership of our government unapologetically say they have a biblical worldview.
00:04:56.000 That's really cool.
00:04:58.000 And we have to have his back. 0.88
00:05:00.000 Because to say that as an office holder of the American government means that all of the worst cockroaches and demons are going to come out.
00:05:10.000 You think Denny Hassert would say that? 0.52
00:05:11.000 You think Dick Cheney would say that?
00:05:13.000 They'd say, oh, I'm a Christian on the, but say very clearly, pick up a Bible and that is my worldview?
00:05:19.000 That is awesome.
00:05:21.000 So what does that mean exactly?
00:05:23.000 Well, we could spend five hours talking about a biblical worldview is, but let me just build it out very plainly and contrast it with what a secular worldview is.
00:05:33.000 Mike Johnson believes that there is a God that created everything and we are not him.
00:05:37.000 Genesis 1.1.
00:05:38.000 In the beginning, Bereshit, God created the heavens and the earth.
00:05:42.000 Mike Johnson believes that human beings are not accidents of millions of years of evolution.
00:05:47.000 He believes that human beings are made in the image of God with a purpose and a soul.
00:05:51.000 Genesis 1.26 and 127.
00:05:53.000 He believes that human beings are naturally flawed and sinful.
00:05:56.000 Therefore, power should be decentralized.
00:05:57.000 Genesis 3.22, Psalm 51.5, Romans 5.12 through 21.
00:06:02.000 He believes that we should not administer justice based on feelings or victim status, neither favoring the rich or poor or the powerful or the connected.
00:06:11.000 Leviticus 19, 15.
00:06:12.000 By the way, that one verse in Leviticus 19, 15 is the basis of our legal system, that we shall not favor a rich man or a poor man in a legal proceeding.
00:06:25.000 He also believes in one of the things that Jesus, our Lord, said that the entire laws of the prophets all hang upon.
00:06:31.000 Leviticus 19, 17, that you should love your neighbor as yourself.
00:06:35.000 This is the root of human equality.
00:06:38.000 He also believes in the Ten Commandments, a moral code given by God for all people to live by, protecting life, property, family, and our country.
00:06:47.000 Remember, I'm the Lord your God that delivered you from Egypt.
00:06:51.000 Tyranny.
00:06:52.000 You shall have no other gods, no other gods before me.
00:06:55.000 You shall not make craven images, shall not murder, shall not steal, shall not covet.
00:07:00.000 For six days you shall work.
00:07:02.000 For one day you shall rest to keep the Sabbath day separate, holy.
00:07:07.000 Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the nation that you are in.
00:07:11.000 It's the 10 statements, the 10 commandments of which Western morality is based.
00:07:16.000 He believes in making your nation better and improving the welfare of the nation that you are in, just as Joseph, Mordecai, Esther, Daniel, Nehemiah, and Jeremiah did in Jeremiah 29, 7.
00:07:26.000 He believes that God became flesh and that every human being will have a decision to make whether or not they'll accept or reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior, John 1.1 and also John 3, 16.
00:07:37.000 He believes that we should not judge people based on the color of their skin.
00:07:42.000 Instead, we should seek to win over their soul and increase the population of heaven, Galatians 3.28.
00:07:47.000 Put plainly and simply, Mike Johnson believes what nearly every founding father believed.
00:07:55.000 This is not radical or fringe or scary.
00:07:58.000 This is what built the entire world you live in.
00:08:01.000 His worldview is the basis of our entire civilization, which is exactly why the media is trying to discredit and destroy it.
00:08:09.000 They're doing everything they possibly can to smear Mike Johnson.
00:08:13.000 When in reality, Mike Johnson believes in the foundational ideas that give us the common law, protection of the incident, charity, natural rights, freedom of speech, decentralized power, an independent judiciary.
00:08:26.000 This entire document, the United States Constitution, is based on a biblical morality.
00:08:33.000 And it comes from an idea, is there a God?
00:08:35.000 Are we him?
00:08:36.000 What is a human being?
00:08:37.000 Where do rights come from?
00:08:38.000 Are we naturally good or naturally not so good?
00:08:40.000 And Mike Johnson says, you want to know what I believe?
00:08:42.000 Pick up a Bible.
00:08:43.000 And you can hear the screaming in the activist press.
00:08:46.000 They are shrieking from the rooftops.
00:08:49.000 How dare you?
00:08:50.000 You're a hater. 1.00
00:08:51.000 You're an LGBTQ nonsense hater. 0.99
00:08:54.000 And Mike Johnson says, let's go back to our roots. 0.92
00:08:57.000 I believe what every founding father believed.
00:08:59.000 I believe in what gave us this civilization.
00:09:02.000 To believe in a biblical worldview is the most sane, predictable, and normal belief system any American politician can and should hold.
00:09:09.000 It means you believe murder is wrong, that stealing is wrong, that you should not judge people based on things they can't change, and instead judge people based on things they can change.
00:09:20.000 A blind justice system.
00:09:22.000 You ever see the image of Lady Justice being blind? 1.00
00:09:24.000 Where do you think that comes from?
00:09:26.000 Leviticus.
00:09:26.000 Loving your neighbor as yourself.
00:09:28.000 Where does that come from?
00:09:28.000 Leviticus.
00:09:30.000 You see, they're trying to stop Mike Johnson before he gets out of the gate using the playbook that they've used before.
00:09:36.000 And again, they can't try to attack him personally.
00:09:38.000 They can't use lawfare because he's a godly man.
00:09:41.000 He's on the straight and narrow path.
00:09:43.000 He's lived a great life of self-discipline, self-control.
00:09:45.000 So they can't use those typical DC tactics.
00:09:48.000 So they're going to try to fringe him.
00:09:50.000 And this is a rallying call for all of us that are believers.
00:09:53.000 And even if you are not a total Christian believer and you're just a patriot, it is time to, this is a huge opportunity because if they're allowed to fringe Mike Johnson based on a very simple, mainstream, non-controversial, non-radical view that every American founding father held, that Abraham Lincoln held, that every American president basically in the 20th century that was good held, if they can put him on the fringe, then they could do it to anybody.
00:10:18.000 Bottom line is this, is that a belief in God is a threat to the left.
00:10:21.000 And that is why they are freaking out.
00:10:25.000 They are freaking out that a speaker of the house says, I have a biblical worldview.
00:10:30.000 It drives them nuts and crazy because he acknowledges something greater than them.
00:10:36.000 And that is a threat.
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00:11:39.000 So they're going to try to smear Mike Johnson.
00:11:41.000 We have to go all in on this.
00:11:42.000 And by the way, they're not going to have, the media is going to intentionally try to misrepresent because look, America is increasingly godless. 0.97
00:11:49.000 That's why you get Dylan Mulvaney and this idea that men can give birth and all that trash, right? 0.84
00:11:54.000 And so they try to make it seem as if religion is the problem, even though we are the least religious we've ever been. 0.96
00:11:59.000 And obviously, as we have become less religious, America has become less free, less joyful, more suicidal.
00:12:06.000 You stop believing in God, you believe in anything, as G.K. Chesterton would say.
00:12:11.000 Now, Mike Johnson is far from perfect.
00:12:13.000 When Mike Johnson became speaker, I said, praise God, we get someone who believes in the core values of the nation, e pluribus unum, id God we trust, liberty.
00:12:23.000 But we did say, hey, I warned you guys, he's going to let you down.
00:12:26.000 And you got to take the good with the bad.
00:12:28.000 You got to take it in stride.
00:12:29.000 Remember, Mike Johnson is a reflection of the Republican caucus, and the Republican caucus is still populated with more warmongers, nation builders, open border types.
00:12:39.000 So we got to change that.
00:12:42.000 But I just want to make sure you understand what we're dealing with.
00:12:45.000 This is Mike Johnson talking about, hey, we got to support Ukraine.
00:12:48.000 We got to put some pressure on him here and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, time out, Mike Johnson.
00:12:51.000 It's not where your voters are at.
00:12:53.000 I know that might be where North of Grumman and Lockheed Martin is.
00:12:57.000 Let's play Cut 146.
00:12:58.000 I agree with your assessment in Ukraine, and that's why the American people are demanding some real accountability for the use of those dollars.
00:13:05.000 Now, we can't allow Vladimir Putin to prevail in Ukraine because I don't believe it would stop there.
00:13:09.000 And it would probably encourage and empower China to perhaps make a move on Taiwan.
00:13:14.000 We have these concerns.
00:13:16.000 We're not going to abandon them, but we have a responsibility, a stewardship responsibility over the precious treasure of the American people.
00:13:23.000 And we have to make sure that the White House is providing the people with some accountability for the dollars.
00:13:28.000 All right, he's talking about accountability.
00:13:30.000 I can get on that.
00:13:31.000 But part of the entire interview, he says, look, I agree with your assessment.
00:13:35.000 I mean, Sean Hannity's talking about cluster bombs.
00:13:37.000 I have a lot of respect for Sean.
00:13:38.000 I couldn't disagree more with Sean on this.
00:13:40.000 And that's just the way it is.
00:13:42.000 And Mike Johnson's, you know, talking about, yeah, you know, I agree with your assessment and all this.
00:13:46.000 Hold on, hold on, time out, time out.
00:13:48.000 Here's just some advice how Mike Johnson should have answered.
00:13:50.000 Again, he's new to the game.
00:13:51.000 His comms team, we're here.
00:13:54.000 Phone call anytime.
00:13:55.000 Here's what Mike Johnson just said.
00:13:56.000 Sean, thank you for your passion on Ukraine.
00:13:59.000 But honestly, southern border becomes above Ukraine.
00:14:03.000 Yes, we'll get it figured out.
00:14:05.000 Our conference wants it.
00:14:06.000 But honestly, before I'm even going to dive into that, Sean, our nation is under attack and being invaded.
00:14:11.000 If you would have just said that, man, that would have been a huge shift on a narrative way, right?
00:14:18.000 It would have been a huge shift.
00:14:19.000 Being like, we are getting overrun by third world foreigners. 1.00
00:14:22.000 Right now in New York City, by the way, Eric Adams has a travel agency just for illegals saying that we'll fly you anywhere in the world.
00:14:31.000 Yeah, I don't think they're going to go to Mogadishu, okay?
00:14:34.000 They're going to be like, huh, Charleston, South Carolina, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas.
00:14:46.000 Something tells me they're not going to want to go to Brussels.
00:14:50.000 And so that's the number one issue.
00:14:52.000 And so look, Mike Johnson, we got some things to work on.
00:14:55.000 You know, he's walking the halls of Congress.
00:14:57.000 He's saying, yeah, you know, we have, you know, Ukraine funding is top of the list.
00:15:01.000 Got to get it done.
00:15:02.000 JD Vance, Senator Vance, has come out and has said, listen, this is a big problem.
00:15:08.000 That it's a change of tone.
00:15:10.000 Again, I'm not even disappointed because why?
00:15:13.000 My expectations were so low.
00:15:15.000 I knew this was coming.
00:15:16.000 The swamp is undefeated, everybody.
00:15:19.000 To beat the swamp, again, you are going up against a massive, undefeated Leviathan.
00:15:24.000 So for me, my expectations were zero.
00:15:27.000 Now, Stephen Miller has said he opposes funding for the Ukraine war and favors a peace settlement.
00:15:32.000 However, there's a checkmate move against Biden that can unite the party.
00:15:35.000 If the House passes Ukraine bill that seals the U.S. border and makes clear to the Senate the White House is the last, best, and only final offer, no negotiation, no clean funding, no more checks, this or nothing, take it or leave it.
00:15:47.000 Use Ukraine as leverage, which sure, but two problems. 0.69
00:15:54.000 Number one, I don't think Ukraine needs more money.
00:15:58.000 I think just on principle, that's that's wrong, but politics is utterly possible.
00:16:01.000 That's number one.
00:16:02.000 Number two, though, will that money actually seal the southern border or will that be just for quicker paperwork processing of illegals coming into the country?
00:16:09.000 So, those are two different things.
00:16:10.000 What guarantees can you actually put in a funding bill so that the people on the southern border are actually doing their job and arresting and deporting these illegals, not saying come in quicker, Paco?
00:16:19.000 Right?
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00:18:00.000 Okay, in the midst of all of this Speaker Johnson stuff, the media has changed their tone a little bit, and it's been super because it happened now twice.
00:18:11.000 And, you know, we watch the networks, we watch MSNBC, and I caught this on Steve Bannon Warim's program on one of the cold opens.
00:18:18.000 I said, oh, that's interesting.
00:18:19.000 I heard it twice.
00:18:20.000 So there's obviously been a memo that's out.
00:18:23.000 And this is all about next November.
00:18:25.000 We haven't really talked about the presidential race much.
00:18:27.000 To Donald Trump's great credit, he has basically ended the Republican primary.
00:18:32.000 Donald Trump last night had 1,000 major donors at Mar-a-Lago.
00:18:37.000 I can't believe this hasn't been a major story.
00:18:39.000 It was one of the largest events in the history of Mar-a-Lago.
00:18:42.000 1,000 major donors, many of whom last night were at Mar-a-Lago, were former DeSantis donors, former Nikki Haley.
00:18:49.000 They were flirting around and playing footsuit, all this stuff over the summer, and they woke up to reality.
00:18:53.000 We're like, we're getting behind Trump.
00:18:55.000 Last night, it was a massive fundraiser.
00:18:56.000 Donald Trump crushed it.
00:18:58.000 I know a lot of people that were there, he raised a ton of money.
00:19:00.000 Donors are consolidating behind him.
00:19:02.000 They're realizing that all these other candidates are not going to be the nominee and that Donald Trump is ascendant.
00:19:07.000 You're not going to get that number down.
00:19:10.000 Now, we haven't really heard, we haven't talked much about the next election.
00:19:12.000 How are all these things impacting the next election?
00:19:14.000 Well, there's five or six things that are playing into this.
00:19:18.000 Okay.
00:19:19.000 The Israel war is big. 0.83
00:19:20.000 We're going to talk about it.
00:19:22.000 But also, Mike Johnson becoming speaker kind of flushed out a new narrative, flushed out a new talking point.
00:19:32.000 Rachel Maddow said this last week.
00:19:34.000 We don't have that tape, but Rachel Maddow went on and she was talking and she said, you know, Donald Trump has a real chance of becoming president.
00:19:41.000 This is going to come down to a couple thousand votes.
00:19:43.000 I said, okay, Rachel's just saying that.
00:19:45.000 Hold on.
00:19:45.000 But Mike Johnson now becoming speaker, the lunatics on MSNBC are obviously getting briefed, aka.
00:19:52.000 They're getting text messages and emails, or at the very least, there's kind of internal high society Democrat ruling class chatter that this election is going to come down to a couple counties in a couple states and a couple precincts.
00:20:07.000 Now, to our great credit, we have been singing that song on this program since January.
00:20:12.000 We've been raising money, hiring ballot chasers at turning point action.
00:20:15.000 We've been doing the work.
00:20:16.000 And I pray that our obedience will result in a great outcome.
00:20:23.000 Play cut 134.
00:20:25.000 Based on your history, new Mr. Speaker, do you believe Joe Biden's the president of the United States?
00:20:30.000 The reporter is booed, literally booed by members of Congress.
00:20:33.000 One woman standing next to Johnson told her to shut up, shouting at the reporter, boo, you know, you're reliving in the past, all the rest of it.
00:20:41.000 No, we're actually, we're worried about the future.
00:20:43.000 And so I think, John, now, as we all know, this election's going to be close either way.
00:20:48.000 If it's Trump against Joe Biden, it's going to be slim margins again in Arizona and Michigan and Georgia and all those places.
00:20:54.000 And we're going to see a replay.
00:20:56.000 Okay, so they accidentally told us what's really going on here.
00:21:01.000 They're freaked out about Mike Johnson. 0.63
00:21:02.000 This is all silly.
00:21:02.000 That somehow Mike Johnson is going to overturn election results if it's winning a couple thousand votes.
00:21:06.000 That's where their head goes, right?
00:21:08.000 So their head immediately goes towards protecting their oligarchy.
00:21:10.000 Oh my goodness, Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, if the electoral votes come and they're not this.
00:21:14.000 Okay, that's a false, that's like a just kind of false narrative.
00:21:18.000 The buried lead is they're telling you that they're worried.
00:21:22.000 They're telling you that they're seeing major fault lines, that the Democrat machinery might not be necessarily as robust and as strong as they have been presenting it, that they snuck a fast one in 2020.
00:21:35.000 They basically snuck half of a fast one in 2022.
00:21:38.000 I think that's fair to say.
00:21:39.000 And their window of doing deceitful trickery with early voting, ballot chasing and all that, that window is closing the more and more we on the American right are getting serious about grassroots muscle.
00:21:55.000 And they said it again.
00:21:57.000 Play cut 136.
00:21:58.000 Matt Gates, who led the coup against Kevin McCarthy, was quoted this week saying this whole process was asked about what a messy thing it's been for him.
00:22:05.000 He said, it wasn't messy.
00:22:06.000 I paraphrase him.
00:22:06.000 He's like, this was a success because we have a better Magna representative in there now.
00:22:11.000 He has said it out loud.
00:22:12.000 That was the plan to get someone in there who, if this comes out of a close election, and they all seem to be, if it's a matter of a few thousand votes here or there, and the House plays a role, Donald Trump has this guy in place.
00:22:24.000 Okay, so he just literally repeated what Mr. Geist just said next to him.
00:22:29.000 You think it's in their head?
00:22:30.000 I mean, literally, they can't go 90 seconds of saying it's going to come down to a couple thousand votes.
00:22:33.000 Rachel Maddow, going to come down to a couple thousand votes.
00:22:35.000 Willie Geist, going to come down to a couple thousand votes, going to come down to a couple thousand votes.
00:22:39.000 They are broadcasting, you guys.
00:22:40.000 They are nervous.
00:22:41.000 They are paranoid.
00:22:42.000 They're nervous for multiple reasons.
00:22:43.000 Donald Trump is unflappable.
00:22:45.000 This guy's unbelievable.
00:22:46.000 Unbelievable.
00:22:48.000 I'm going to teach my kids one day.
00:22:50.000 Yes, he's got plenty of problems and all this, but if your back is ever against the wall, that's what perseverance and grit looks like.
00:22:56.000 Seriously.
00:22:58.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:22:59.000 Facing 700 years in federal prison, he had this ridiculous fraud trial in New York, getting lied about all the time. 0.71
00:23:05.000 It's unbelievable how this guy keeps on going.
00:23:07.000 The stamina, the perseverance, the grit, the hustle, 95% negative press.
00:23:12.000 They lock your supporters in prison.
00:23:14.000 They're turning people against each other.
00:23:15.000 They're lying about people that used to work.
00:23:17.000 It's unbelievable.
00:23:17.000 And the guy says, you know what?
00:23:18.000 We're going to keep on fighting.
00:23:20.000 That is virtuous.
00:23:21.000 And that deserves credit repeatedly.
00:23:24.000 Any other person would have capitulated, folded, surrendered, and sued for peace.
00:23:30.000 But let's not bury the lead here.
00:23:31.000 Here's MSNBC talking about Mike Johnson.
00:23:33.000 Again, that's a sideshow, okay?
00:23:34.000 They're telling you that next November is going to come down to a couple thousand votes, a couple thousand votes, a couple thousand votes.
00:23:40.000 And they know this because in an incredible turn of events, Hamas might be breaking the Democrat Party. 0.65
00:23:50.000 That's right.
00:23:52.000 Hamas might be breaking the Democrat Party. 0.80
00:23:55.000 Hamas goes and kills 1,400 Jews in the worst killing of Jews since the Holocaust. 0.91
00:23:59.000 Terrible. 0.92
00:24:00.000 It's not an attack.
00:24:00.000 It was a massacre.
00:24:01.000 It was genocide. 0.73
00:24:03.000 Turns out Hamas is an October surprise a whole year early. 0.95
00:24:06.000 We've been highlighting this for quite some time.
00:24:08.000 And my prediction was 50% correct.
00:24:11.000 50%.
00:24:12.000 My prediction was that there will be an event that will break the marriage between corporate Democrats and the activist base.
00:24:19.000 Remember, this has been a forced fusion, right?
00:24:21.000 So they've put together the AOC, Rashida Talib, Elon Omar, Ayana Presley types with corporate Democrats, transactional Democrats like Joe Manchin and Joe Biden that control Wall Street.
00:24:31.000 And they've put them together because how much they hate, quote unquote, right-wing fascism.
00:24:36.000 It's been a marriage of convenience.
00:24:38.000 It's been fused together, and they've never been ideologically compatible.
00:24:41.000 I thought the fault line would come over other issues, economic in particular.
00:24:47.000 Turns out I was right about the fault line being exposed.
00:24:50.000 I was wrong about the issue because no one could have predicted this issue.
00:24:53.000 Who would have thought that 1,400 Jews in the Holy Land being massacred could end up creating a civil war in the Democrat Party?
00:25:03.000 Now, mind you, there's a lot of tensions on the right about this, but honestly, it's been simmered down in the last week.
00:25:08.000 I think finally people are, cooler heads are prevailing.
00:25:11.000 It is heating up, and you are seeing a glorious revolution happen in the Democrat Party.
00:25:18.000 Joe Biden's numbers have gone down within the Democrat Party by 11 points.
00:25:24.000 Joe Biden has to choose.
00:25:26.000 Does he want to listen to his center left, more moderate Jewish Democrat donors that want support of Israel, or is he going to turn his back on the activist base?
00:25:38.000 The fact that Joe Biden went to Israel and voiced support for Israel is creating a legitimate coup within the Democrat Party.
00:25:46.000 And it's not just the Muslims that are upset. 0.93
00:25:48.000 Understand, the major drivers for Palestinian liberation, all that crap, are white, upper, middle-class, educated liberals in their early 20s that have been led to believe that Israel is executing a genocide on Hamas. 0.98
00:26:02.000 Super far left. 0.96
00:26:04.000 These are college-educated liberals.
00:26:06.000 These college-educated liberals are so on the side of Hamas. 0.95
00:26:09.000 And so then Democrat donors that tend to be Jew, you know, that Democrat donors that are Jewish, not tend to be Jewish, but wealthy Jewish Democrat donors that have zero sympathy for any of the Hamas stuff, this is creating a massive tension point.
00:26:24.000 And Joe Biden, by the way, is making it worse.
00:26:27.000 So Joe Biden is hosting like special safe spaces.
00:26:33.000 Joe Biden has a safe space for Muslims in the White House.
00:26:36.000 He just had a roundtable last week where all these Arab Muslims and Joe Biden was giving them assurances.
00:26:41.000 That is a middle finger to Jews right now that are having flashbacks to the Holocaust.
00:26:46.000 They don't want that.
00:26:47.000 Leon Cooperman, Mark Rowan, Huntsman, they don't want it at all.
00:26:52.000 By the way, Muslims are thinking of mass quitting the Biden administration.
00:26:55.000 So Biden's trying to keep this whole thing together because it was a forced marriage from the beginning.
00:27:00.000 And it's not the American right that is breaking this.
00:27:04.000 The Democrat coalition heading into 2024 is splintering and fracturing, not over income inequality, wealth equality, big tech, open borders, censorship, but over Israel.
00:27:19.000 That is fascinating, isn't it?
00:27:21.000 It's fascinating.
00:27:22.000 It goes to show of all the issues, it actually makes sense because it is a non-negotiable issue for Jewish Democrat donors, especially when 1,400 Jews are slaughtered.
00:27:35.000 They don't want to hear about Muslims' feelings. 1.00
00:27:37.000 They don't want to hear about students for justice of Palestine.
00:27:40.000 And the students for justice of Palestine using the language are using glory to our martyrs on a Jewish library at George Washington University. 0.73
00:27:48.000 Jewish donors are mad and they should be mad. 0.97
00:27:52.000 And this is creating a serious nosedive for Joe Biden's Democrat reelection chances. 0.73
00:27:59.000 And that is directly correlated with Willie Geisth and MSNBC and Rachel Maddow repeating, repeating, and pretending it's going to come down to a couple thousand votes, come down to a couple thousand votes, come down a couple thousand votes.
00:28:09.000 And like, yeah, it is going to come down to a couple thousand votes.
00:28:12.000 One of the reasons that if this continues, if Israel invades Gaza, which is an open question at this point, but if Israel invades Gaza, this is not going to go away.
00:28:21.000 Joe Biden's support with the activist base will go down.
00:28:24.000 Now, interesting enough, Joe Biden's support amongst like more moderate suburban voters has actually gone up only a couple points, not significantly, just a couple points.
00:28:32.000 But what is noticeable is how much Jew hatred, how much Israel hatred, how much Hamas and Gaza sympathy there is with the rank and file of the AOC activist base of the Democrat Party.
00:28:48.000 So Joe Biden has to choose.
00:28:50.000 Are you going to choose your donors or are you going to choose your activists?
00:28:56.000 And it is breaking the back of the Democrat Party right now.
00:29:02.000 So let me just first say, I'm thrilled that Hugh Hewitt's going to be involved in this next debate.
00:29:08.000 I like Hugh.
00:29:08.000 I've always gotten along with him.
00:29:10.000 Hugh has always had my back.
00:29:11.000 He recently defended me.
00:29:13.000 We're colleagues on the Salem Radio Network.
00:29:15.000 Hugh's a great guy.
00:29:16.000 I really, really like Hugh.
00:29:18.000 Thrilled that he's involved in this upcoming debate.
00:29:20.000 So I just have to preface it with that.
00:29:21.000 Again, I'm involved.
00:29:22.000 Salem is involved.
00:29:23.000 Salem is a terrific group of people.
00:29:25.000 Hugh might be a little more moderate than I am on some issues.
00:29:28.000 It doesn't matter.
00:29:28.000 He's been great to me.
00:29:29.000 He's always defended me.
00:29:31.000 In fact, what he did recently to me for me, really great.
00:29:34.000 And I'll never forget it.
00:29:36.000 So I just have to say that.
00:29:37.000 Hugh's a patriot.
00:29:38.000 So let's just put Hugh on the appropriate mantle and say, Hugh, glad you're involved.
00:29:45.000 Why is the RNC also, though, doing a debate with NBC and Lester Holt and Kristen Welker?
00:29:52.000 What is that all about?
00:29:54.000 So Hugh Hewitt will be one of the moderators.
00:29:56.000 Put that aside.
00:29:58.000 Debates are expensive.
00:30:00.000 Debates are costly.
00:30:03.000 Wouldn't it be more rational to say we've probably had enough debates?
00:30:09.000 Let's do it maybe low cost and put one, I don't know, on Real America's Voice so that real voters could listen to it. 0.96
00:30:16.000 And let's go hire ballot chasers in these key states.
00:30:22.000 So you don't have the main GOP candidate participating in this debate, and you have Lester Holt and Kristen Welker.
00:30:32.000 And again, this drives me crazy.
00:30:35.000 Do you think when Democrats host their next debate, if they ever do, would they have Tucker Carlson moderate one of their debates?
00:30:45.000 Would they have Dan Bongino moderate one of their debates?
00:30:49.000 Would they have Steve Bannon moderate one of their debates?
00:30:53.000 Would they have Charlie Kirk moderate one of their debates?
00:30:56.000 Would they have Matt Walsh moderate one of their debates?
00:30:59.000 You get the point.
00:31:00.000 Lester Holt and Kristen Welker are the ideological equivalent.
00:31:05.000 They are not reporters.
00:31:07.000 These people are Democrat operatives that read teleprompters every evening.
00:31:13.000 And the questions will be this. 0.98
00:31:16.000 So tell me, Mike Pence, do you enjoy hating gays? 0.99
00:31:19.000 30 seconds to respond. 0.99
00:31:21.000 Great.
00:31:23.000 So tell me, Nikki Haley, how many brown people will you deport?
00:31:29.000 The questions will be so rigged.
00:31:32.000 And so then the, let's just say, again, Hugh Hewitt, God bless him, is going to have to deal with them.
00:31:37.000 Them.
00:31:37.000 And I think Hugh's going to do the best he possibly can.
00:31:39.000 Hugh's a smart guy and he's going to get really good questions in in kind of the pre-editorial meeting.
00:31:43.000 But honestly, Lester and Kristen are just going to lie to Hugh Hewitt. 0.98
00:31:46.000 They're a bunch of liars. 0.98
00:31:47.000 Okay. 0.99
00:31:47.000 They're like, oh, yeah, we'll ask these questions and they'll take out questions out of their back. 0.99
00:31:50.000 You can't trust these people.
00:31:50.000 Okay.
00:31:51.000 They're scum rats. 1.00
00:31:53.000 And you're going to have all of these questions that are going to make Republicans look fringe. 0.99
00:31:59.000 And there's three types of questions they'll ask: make you look fringe, turn them against each other, or disavow Trump to try to create distance.
00:32:06.000 Okay?
00:32:08.000 The whole thing, it's going to be like the abortion debate, right?
00:32:10.000 So, what week do you think?
00:32:12.000 Or what's this?
00:32:13.000 Or do you have these exceptions?
00:32:16.000 And then we're going to be wondering, yeah.
00:32:19.000 The first question will be: Welcome.
00:32:21.000 I'm Kristen Welker.
00:32:22.000 So, to you, Vivek Ramaswamy, do you believe the 2020 was a legitimate election?
00:32:29.000 Is Joe Biden president of the United States? 0.99
00:32:30.000 By the way, the reason why the House Republican conference booed that question when Speaker Mike Johnson was speaker is because it's a stupid question. 1.00
00:32:38.000 It's a stupid question, okay? 1.00
00:32:41.000 It was their first question. 1.00
00:32:42.000 You should boo when a reporter asks that.
00:32:44.000 You know what they're doing.
00:32:45.000 They don't want to actually congratulate Mike Johnson.
00:32:47.000 Hey, what are you going to do with the CR?
00:32:49.000 Are you going to close the border and give more money to Ukraine?
00:32:51.000 No, no.
00:32:51.000 Do you believe the 2020 election?
00:32:53.000 Like, shut up. 0.99
00:32:55.000 We know what you're at here. 1.00
00:32:57.000 It shows ridiculous bias and it shows an unwillingness to actually engage in questions. 0.74
00:33:04.000 No one is actually saying that Biden doesn't occupy the oval.
00:33:07.000 We are saying is whether or not he got it through normal, traditional, and ordinary means.
00:33:11.000 And honestly, we're not talking that much about that right now.
00:33:14.000 We are forward-facing.
00:33:16.000 We're looking at November 2024 to get it back.
00:33:18.000 Okay.
00:33:20.000 By the way, you know what Mike Johnson should have said?
00:33:22.000 Hey, reporter person, how would I impeach Joe Biden if he's not president?
00:33:27.000 Next question.
00:33:29.000 How do you impeach someone who's not president?
00:33:30.000 Because that's what I'm going to do.
00:33:31.000 Next question.
00:33:34.000 So glad Hugh's involved.
00:33:36.000 I'm glad Salem's involved.
00:33:38.000 But honestly, at the RNC, what are you doing bringing NBC into here?
00:33:43.000 Instead, it should be: okay, this primary was fun.
00:33:46.000 We had a great summer, guys.
00:33:49.000 Let's get to work to beat the Democrats.
00:33:52.000 We have like three marching orders. 0.93
00:33:53.000 We got to hire ballot chasers and all the early voting type operatives that we possibly can.
00:33:58.000 We as a movement.
00:33:59.000 We got to get RFK Jr.'s numbers down now.
00:34:03.000 That's a whole nother show we're going to do.
00:34:04.000 You got to get his numbers down.
00:34:05.000 He's way too favorable.
00:34:06.000 You got to get him down to single digits.
00:34:08.000 And then finally, you have to unite the tribes of the Republican Party sooner rather than later.
00:34:13.000 And bringing NBC in to moderate your debate does not accomplish that goal.
00:34:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:22.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:25.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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