The Charlie Kirk Show - August 27, 2026


One Trump Win After Another + Hasan Piker Polling


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:17.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It is August 27, 2026.
00:01:21.000 What a day.
00:01:22.000 What a day.
00:01:23.000 We have a jam packed show right here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:26.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:27.000 We're doing lovely.
00:01:28.000 Good.
00:01:29.000 I love to hear that.
00:01:30.000 So, the lead of the show today, we're going to be bringing on Orrin McIntyre, the great Orrin McIntyre, great thinker, smart guy over with the Blaze.
00:01:38.000 We like him a lot.
00:01:40.000 And we're going to be talking about how President Trump is quietly stacking win after win.
00:01:45.000 And we as a conservative movement need to do a better job of talking about it.
00:01:48.000 Because if you just log on, you're going to get all this doomerism.
00:01:51.000 You're going to get, honestly, a lot of propaganda and a lot of negativity.
00:01:56.000 There is really good news out there.
00:01:58.000 And it's starting to, I would say, pierce the veil.
00:02:01.000 It's starting to get through.
00:02:03.000 And we're going to do our part to make sure everybody knows about it.
00:02:06.000 So, Oren McIntyre actually did a show yesterday called.
00:02:10.000 President Trump is quietly stacking wins and he joins us now.
00:02:13.000 Oren, welcome.
00:02:14.000 You're columnist with The Blaze, host of the Oren McIntyre Show, and a great thinker.
00:02:19.000 Why did you choose to do a show about that and inspire us to do a show leading with you doing a show about it?
00:02:25.000 And what are the wins, of course?
00:02:27.000 Well, I think it's very obvious that there have been some missteps by the administration, and I have not been quiet about those until the Iran war.
00:02:35.000 But at the same time, it's critical that we understand that the Trump administration is still doing the best job of any Republican administration we've ever seen.
00:02:42.000 And this is why.
00:02:44.000 Despite my disagreements on that foreign policy issue, I continue to support the president because when we see these types of victories, we need to understand that there's more going on than just the foreign policy.
00:02:55.000 And we have seen some huge ones lately.
00:02:57.000 The Trump administration has made huge wins across the board from immigration to court rulings to even things that I care deeply about as a former teacher, like the education system.
00:03:08.000 And so I think it was time to pull these headlines together.
00:03:11.000 It's been a rough patch for the administration in some areas.
00:03:14.000 But the places where they're winning are very important, and we shouldn't brush those aside just because we don't like everything that's going on.
00:03:21.000 Well, so here's just a list that I have in my head.
00:03:24.000 All right.
00:03:25.000 There have been, you'll see different numbers, but I've actually got sources within the DHS.
00:03:30.000 There's been 1.5 million forcible removals, over 3 million self deportations, right?
00:03:36.000 Or altogether, net migration, we'll say, right?
00:03:40.000 It's actually probably about 2 million self deportations, 1.5 forcible deportations.
00:03:45.000 That's huge for me.
00:03:47.000 A lot of news on the H 1B front.
00:03:49.000 Putting fees on H 1B.
00:03:50.000 Yes, that'll be challenged by the courts, but that's huge.
00:03:53.000 Sign the Lake and Riley Act.
00:03:55.000 We've got, do you know that we have the lowest murder rate, like per capita, since 1900?
00:04:01.000 People still don't talk about that stuff.
00:04:02.000 It kind of quietly happened overnight.
00:04:04.000 Overdose deaths are down about 50%.
00:04:05.000 Overdose deaths are down.
00:04:07.000 You just mentioned a stat.
00:04:08.000 Ice goes into Virginia.
00:04:09.000 Rents are now dropping in Virginia.
00:04:11.000 Yeah.
00:04:12.000 Imagine that.
00:04:12.000 Same thing we saw happen in areas of Texas.
00:04:16.000 So those are some of the things that those are my top lines, but I could go on.
00:04:20.000 There's literally dozens of them.
00:04:21.000 What are your, I don't know, top four or five wins that, and you can probably recent wins that you think are worth highlighting for the audience?
00:04:30.000 Well, like you said, the H1B1 is huge.
00:04:31.000 It's absolutely critical.
00:04:33.000 And I'm also glad that the vice president. President has focused on these as solutions to the affordability problem.
00:04:41.000 A lot of people in mainstream conservative outlets decided to decry the idea that there is any issue with affordability.
00:04:49.000 And instead, JD Vance turned around and said, obviously, there is one.
00:04:52.000 And one of the ways we're going to fix this is through fixing the H 1B program, making sure that we are securing jobs for American citizens.
00:04:59.000 Another huge one is that the administration is voiding over 200,000 asylum visas.
00:05:07.000 Which is huge.
00:05:07.000 We know a lot of those are fake.
00:05:09.000 And so we're going to see 200,000 of those visas voided.
00:05:12.000 We're seeing a suspension.
00:05:13.000 And this is my favorite one, probably, because it's the correct use of bureaucratic power.
00:05:18.000 We saw a complete suspension of all visa interviews for immigration into the United States because the court said, well, you can't just narrow it down to like these 70 countries that you don't want there.
00:05:30.000 And so we said, okay, well, then I guess we need to retrain all of our staff.
00:05:34.000 And we just can't do any of these interviews.
00:05:36.000 What a shame.
00:05:38.000 What can you do?
00:05:39.000 Right.
00:05:39.000 And this is the procedural.
00:05:40.000 Manipulation that the left is so good at that locks in wins without them needing to pass a single law or anything like that.
00:05:47.000 And instead, now we are doing it.
00:05:48.000 We are using the power of the deep state for good.
00:05:51.000 This is exactly the kind of thing that you want to see happen.
00:05:54.000 We also saw a massive win when it comes to a court ruling that just said from the Supreme Court that you can no longer block this executive order from Donald Trump when it comes to elections.
00:06:04.000 And that order is basically going to be an in run around the blocking of the Save Act.
00:06:09.000 You're going to have a mandatory list that goes out to all of the states of the people who are.
00:06:14.000 Legally allowed to vote there.
00:06:16.000 And then the U.S. Postal Service is going to refuse to deliver mail in ballots to anyone who is not on that list.
00:06:22.000 It's so crazy.
00:06:23.000 So we're using the executive power over the Postal Service to do something we couldn't do through Congress.
00:06:30.000 That is a beautiful move.
00:06:31.000 And these are exactly the kinds of manipulations of bureaucracy, the use of executive power that the left thrives on, that we always fall down on.
00:06:39.000 And so it's great to see the Trump administration deploy these when we can't get the other wins in the courts or in.
00:06:45.000 The legislature.
00:06:46.000 You know, here's another one that, and I love your examples, and then Blake, we'll go to you.
00:06:51.000 People don't realize that the federal employment is at the lowest level since 1966.
00:06:57.000 They have fired a bunch of the bureaucracy.
00:07:00.000 Is there still more to cut?
00:07:01.000 Of course.
00:07:02.000 This stuff doesn't happen overnight, though.
00:07:04.000 We're at the lowest level since 1966.
00:07:07.000 That's remarkable.
00:07:08.000 That's remarkable.
00:07:08.000 And, I mean, ending temporary protected status, I think, is another one that'll be really underrated.
00:07:13.000 That was not just people who had migrated to the U.S. illegally, but it was People here illegally who, because of various maneuvers exploited by Obama and Biden and the courts, they had work authorizations here.
00:07:26.000 And suddenly, that's a million people whose work authorizations have been taken away.
00:07:30.000 I think those will be people who will be under a lot of economic pressure to self deport.
00:07:35.000 And that's going to be, I mean, you can look at the numbers that's 335,000 people from Haiti.
00:07:39.000 That's, there's two different numbers about like 500,000 people from Venezuela, 8,000 from Afghanistan, 7,000 from Nepal, 3,000 from Yemen.
00:07:49.000 All of these numbers racking up.
00:07:51.000 And I love what you said about learning to use the mechanisms of call it the deep state, the bureaucracy towards our own ends.
00:07:59.000 That was Charlie's main thing.
00:08:00.000 We would highlight that so often.
00:08:02.000 Yeah.
00:08:03.000 Use power.
00:08:03.000 That was in Right Wing Revolution.
00:08:05.000 And we talked about that with, for example, the border.
00:08:08.000 Like, how did open borders happen?
00:08:10.000 It wasn't that Biden said, we have open borders now.
00:08:13.000 It was all of the left wing's NGOs and lawyers breaking the system apart that, oh, well, when you arrive at the border, you have the right to petition for asylum.
00:08:23.000 And, you know, if you say, I'm persecuted for being gay or I suffer domestic violence or I fear gang violence in my home country, well, we have to at least give you a hearing.
00:08:33.000 Oh, our courts are so backlogged.
00:08:35.000 Here's your hearing date four years in the future.
00:08:38.000 And if you blow that off, well, I mean, we don't think people who just blew off a hearing that's a nonviolent offense.
00:08:42.000 They're not a priority for enforcement.
00:08:44.000 You see each of these parts that work out to if you get to the U.S., you'll never be deported.
00:08:49.000 Now we've learned to find the same vulnerabilities to help us that actually we don't need to do these interviews.
00:08:54.000 We don't need to grant these visas.
00:08:56.000 We actually can impose a fee for you to apply for this.
00:08:59.000 And you know what?
00:08:59.000 We're going to set it prohibitively high.
00:09:01.000 Thank you.
00:09:01.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:09:03.000 I'm going to name one more accomplishment that I really love because I think we don't remember the wins.
00:09:09.000 We got rid of USAID.
00:09:12.000 That was huge.
00:09:12.000 You know, it had a bigger budget than the CIA and the State Department combined?
00:09:17.000 And we got rid of it.
00:09:18.000 And I actually love this one because Blake, I thought Blake was going to tell me that it's nonsense.
00:09:24.000 Lo and behold, seven socialist Latin American governments lost re election after we abolished USAID.
00:09:30.000 I don't know if they're linked, but I want them to be.
00:09:32.000 But I want them to be too.
00:09:33.000 So that's a fun one.
00:09:34.000 Listen, I think what you said is apt, Oren, that you've been critical.
00:09:38.000 I think we've all, you know, that's going to happen with a coalition this large and a country this large.
00:09:44.000 There's going to be some people that feel like their needs, wants, desires are not getting served.
00:09:48.000 And then there's going to be missteps.
00:09:50.000 There's a lot going on.
00:09:51.000 But there's been so much.
00:09:53.000 I think this is the standout line for me, Oren.
00:09:55.000 You said this is the most effective Republican administration in your lifetime.
00:10:03.000 And I think that's really accurate, actually.
00:10:06.000 We haven't talked about DEI, we haven't talked about.
00:10:10.000 Women's sports and how they've been working, and the NC2A actually changed their rules after the Trump administration had some executive orders on the matter.
00:10:20.000 So there's been tons and tons of wins.
00:10:22.000 Is there something that stands out for you that we haven't talked about yet?
00:10:26.000 Yeah, so here's one that if you're not familiar with the education system, you're not going to understand, but trust me, as a former teacher, this is a huge one.
00:10:33.000 So the Department of Education has recently issued guidance to ignore what Barack Obama set in place when it comes to racial balancing.
00:10:41.000 In discipline in education.
00:10:43.000 So, for those who don't know, there is functionally affirmative action for suspending students in schools.
00:10:49.000 I worked in a majority minority school when I was teaching.
00:10:54.000 And in that school, we basically were not allowed to suspend any students because literally all of our students were minorities and anyone we suspended would add to the district's total and therefore make them look bad in the statistics.
00:11:07.000 This was a disaster in the school.
00:11:09.000 There was no discipline.
00:11:10.000 We ended up with multiple prison riot style fights.
00:11:13.000 I had one principal knocked out and sent to the Uh, hospital because they tried to stop a fight in the lunchroom.
00:11:19.000 Eventually, a number of the videos of these fights ended up on the internet, and that is the only way we were allowed to suspend students again.
00:11:27.000 And even though that worked great, and we were actually able to educate kids again, and we had a safe school again, eventually the numbers started stacking up.
00:11:34.000 Too many black students were being suspended, they took that away, and we went right back to where we were.
00:11:40.000 The Trump administration getting rid of this is huge.
00:11:42.000 It makes schools safer, it makes your kids more likely to get good educations, it boosts morale.
00:11:48.000 This is one of those little tweaks that goes under the radar but makes a big difference across the country in the lives of average people.
00:11:54.000 That's so true.
00:11:55.000 I mean, I remember I wrote about education at the Daily Caller, and I remember this.
00:11:59.000 There was a really memorable policy, St. Paul, of course it was Minnesota, where they made the rule, it was overtly racially discriminatory that if you wanted to suspend an Asian or white kid, you could just do it as a teacher or principal.
00:12:12.000 I think it was as a principal.
00:12:13.000 And if you wanted to suspend a kid of a different race, you had to appeal all the way up to the superintendent.
00:12:19.000 So just a straight up racial hierarchy of who got punished.
00:12:22.000 So white privilege.
00:12:23.000 Exactly, as they might call it.
00:12:25.000 And then as a result, I mean, unsurprisingly, you had mayhem in entire schools and everything would break down.
00:12:32.000 That's such an underrated example, Arnold.
00:12:34.000 I'm glad you brought it up of these small ways life is getting better.
00:12:37.000 And I'm sad the administration doesn't brag about these things more.
00:12:41.000 Your kid's school is allowed to have discipline again.
00:12:43.000 Yeah.
00:12:44.000 So, my favorite one that we haven't mentioned yet, well, I have two.
00:12:47.000 That is the nationwide school choice portion of the one big, beautiful bill.
00:12:52.000 I hate the teachers' unions.
00:12:54.000 I think they are an absolute parasite on this country.
00:12:57.000 It's a super PAC for Democrats.
00:12:59.000 They screwed up our public school systems.
00:13:01.000 And the more that we can get students, By student out of the public school systems, the less dollars are going to be allotted to failing public schools, and they're going to get better private school education, Christian education, and we're going to starve that beast of a lot of funding.
00:13:17.000 And so, the more money we can take out of the public schools, the better, in my opinion.
00:13:21.000 We had a huge win, by the way, in the state of Arizona on that recently.
00:13:24.000 A ballot initiative that was trying to get rid of our best in class, best in the nation school choice program didn't reach the threshold on signatures.
00:13:31.000 It's not going to be on the ballot.
00:13:33.000 We get our great school choice here.
00:13:35.000 All right.
00:13:35.000 The second one, though, was also in the big, beautiful bill.
00:13:38.000 Which was the accelerated amortization of business investment.
00:13:43.000 So, if you're a restaurant and you want to redo the kitchen, you can write off 100% of that in the first year.
00:13:48.000 So, apparently, according to Scott Besant, we have the most industrial investment in this country that we've had in basically over two decades.
00:13:56.000 So, people are, money is being invested.
00:13:59.000 That creates construction jobs, that creates supply chain jobs up and down the supply chain, whether it's a dishwasher or whatever factory.
00:14:06.000 We have a record number of new factories being built.
00:14:09.000 And a lot of that is because of the one big beautiful bill and some of the tax tweaks that were made in that.
00:14:14.000 Those are mine.
00:14:14.000 Blake, am I missing one that you're really hot on?
00:14:17.000 Because there's a lot.
00:14:18.000 You always love the merit stuff.
00:14:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:20.000 I mean, I just love that we, for decades, had through Republican and through Democrat, were mindlessly accepting stuff from one of our most left wing administrations, Lyndon Johnson.
00:14:32.000 A lot of that stuff was expanded by Nixon.
00:14:34.000 We had DEI stuff expanded and entrenched by Republican presidents, by Nixon.
00:14:40.000 By H.W., by George W. Bush, even a bit by Reagan, some of it even in Trump's first term.
00:14:46.000 And now, like, we figured it out and we're saying these executive orders that are making us ruin our country by getting rid of merit, by getting rid of standards, they're going away.
00:14:57.000 I mean, I think we're trying to overturn Jimmy Carter's maneuver where he tried to basically, he got rid of the federal hiring exam, essentially, because that was racist.
00:15:07.000 We can finally hire competent people in the federal government.
00:15:09.000 Our government used to be famously effective and competent.
00:15:12.000 By the way, 94% of federal employees were working.
00:15:14.000 From home under Joe Biden.
00:15:16.000 That is no longer the case.
00:15:17.000 We had a come back to work order.
00:15:19.000 Orin, I'm going to put you on the spot in our final minute here.
00:15:22.000 President Trump said he's going to come out with his position on flock cameras.
00:15:25.000 Also, the big debate on data centers.
00:15:28.000 Where are you at on both of those?
00:15:29.000 I know it's a minute and that's a big lift, but where are you at?
00:15:32.000 Data centers are obviously going to exist.
00:15:35.000 I think that if the tech industry wants to see data centers be put up, I think Mike Sordovich is correct about this.
00:15:41.000 They need to start acting graciously to the populations where they're dropping these data centers, build a high school, build a hospital.
00:15:48.000 You know, put some patronage out there and you will win people over on this issue.
00:15:52.000 Show people that there is something they get out of data centers going in and not just something that gets imposed on them.
00:15:58.000 On flock cameras, I have a very different outlook.
00:16:01.000 I look at the CCTV camera network in Great Britain.
00:16:05.000 That camera network did nothing to capture all of the rape gangs there.
00:16:09.000 It was never used to stop those.
00:16:10.000 It was used to stop the people who protested those rape gangs.
00:16:13.000 I don't understand why a network of cameras in the United States would do anything different.
00:16:18.000 I think ICE should run them.
00:16:21.000 And once we get rid of 10 million illegals with their help, then we can get rid of them.
00:16:26.000 So, it's one idea I'm kicking around.
00:16:27.000 The amazing one.
00:16:28.000 Orrin McIntyre, the man.
00:16:29.000 Thank you so much, Orrin.
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00:17:36.000 All right, Sean Davis, you were the one on social that alerted me to this story.
00:17:54.000 So you've got Andrew Ferguson who gets in the muck on X and calls out Y Combinator.
00:17:59.000 So let's start there because Blake made a good point.
00:18:02.000 Probably a lot of people in our audience don't know what Y Combinator even is.
00:18:06.000 So what is it as a first step?
00:18:08.000 Yeah, Y Combinator is a Silicon Valley based left wing incubator and venture capital fund.
00:18:15.000 Basically, you come in as a startup, they give you some money, they take a big chunk of your ownership, they take control of your board.
00:18:22.000 And if it works well, you end up getting bigger and you end up getting sold and you make a lot of money, and America's better as a result.
00:18:29.000 Unfortunately, this company, which was initially founded by a total left wing midwit, has been taken over by a bunch of anti American.
00:18:40.000 Looney Tunes, many of them foreigners.
00:18:43.000 And a lot of them have been letting their freak flags fly on social, trashing America, trashing flyover country, saying how superior everyone else is to us.
00:18:53.000 And there's a real irony in this because if America was as bad as they say, if flyover country was as awful as they say, and all these other countries and cultures were so much superior, they wouldn't need to be here.
00:19:05.000 This stuff would exist in India or China or wherever you have it.
00:19:10.000 Yet it happens here.
00:19:11.000 They come here, they trash us, they loot us.
00:19:13.000 And then they act like we're somehow weird for noticing what they're up to.
00:19:18.000 And the craziest thing to me is you had one of the general partners at Y Combinator, I think Ankit Gupta is his name, who was going in and trashing the head of the Federal Trade Commission, the co chair of the White House Fraud Task Force.
00:19:32.000 And it kind of just illuminated how clueless these people are.
00:19:35.000 They pitch themselves as elite human capital, but they actually end up being absolute morons.
00:19:41.000 And all I'm asking, maybe just give us a little thanks.
00:19:43.000 For allowing you in our country and allowing you to rest under the shade of American exceptionalism and glory instead of just trashing us at every opportunity you get.
00:19:53.000 So, here's this one of the examples people are throwing out there.
00:19:59.000 We had Andrew Ferguson's tweet up there where he's saying, well, hey, maybe Y Combinator is just a front for far left activists to destroy our country.
00:20:08.000 So, Hunter Weiss put up this tweet and he highlighted two companies that I think are worth.
00:20:14.000 You know, checking out says YC, Y Comedy has visa factories.
00:20:20.000 The first one he highlights is Gale, a fast and data driven immigration platform.
00:20:25.000 Hmm.
00:20:26.000 Okay.
00:20:26.000 So, what is this?
00:20:26.000 Gale is an immigration tech platform that makes immigration simple for U.S. companies.
00:20:33.000 Oh, interesting.
00:20:35.000 We've simplified the visa application process, streamlined compliance, and can integrate with HR systems, saving teams time, money, and headaches.
00:20:43.000 Through automation, we enable the independent attorneys we coordinate with to maintain quality.
00:20:48.000 While being more efficient.
00:20:50.000 Okay, Gail.
00:20:51.000 So it works with companies to import our replacements.
00:20:56.000 That's what I hear right there.
00:20:57.000 Am I missing something?
00:20:59.000 No, you're not.
00:20:59.000 And that's not the only one.
00:21:01.000 They have, I believe, scores of companies that are just AI or algorithm driven apps or whatever that exist to just bring in labor.
00:21:11.000 They take a cut off the top.
00:21:13.000 They're monetizing immigration into the U.S.
00:21:18.000 The head of Y Combinator right now is a guy named Gary Tan.
00:21:21.000 He's a Total kook, given bazillions of dollars to left wing causes, donated to, you know, Ro Khanna, who's a total left wing nut job, the Minnesota DFL, Chuck Schumer, every left wing cause you can imagine.
00:21:37.000 And Mike Cernovich, who's amazing, just a national treasurer, he has been asking for days is there a single general partner at Y Combinator who voted for Trump?
00:21:46.000 Is there a single general partner there who doesn't hate Trump or hate Trump voters?
00:21:51.000 And the answer is no.
00:21:52.000 And you see this all across Silicon Valley.
00:21:55.000 These people have massive control over the economy.
00:21:59.000 They're all getting rich off of it.
00:22:01.000 They hate you.
00:22:01.000 They hate me.
00:22:02.000 They hate what we stand for.
00:22:03.000 They openly mock flyover country and the people who live there, you know, the people who actually grow our food and drive all the trucks that feed these people.
00:22:11.000 And it's this attitude from these people that I think everyone has had enough of that if you are going to come to this country and get rich, the bare minimum we ask you is to not take a dump on us on social media every time you get the opportunity.
00:22:26.000 Because if your countries were so great and your cultures were so awesome, You wouldn't be here.
00:22:31.000 So, obviously, we're better.
00:22:32.000 So, just acknowledge that we're better and maybe try to integrate yourself into what we're doing instead of taking craps on us all the time.
00:22:38.000 Because I think I've had enough.
00:22:40.000 I imagine tens of millions of Americans out there as well have also had enough.
00:22:44.000 Oh, I totally agree.
00:22:45.000 And there was this clip going around of, and I love all the H1B advances lately from the Trump administration.
00:22:52.000 I'm all about it.
00:22:53.000 But there was Palmer Lucky talking about his time in Silicon Valley and what a scam it all is.
00:22:58.000 So, this stuff is getting abused in a big way.
00:23:01.000 Throw up 191 here.
00:23:02.000 This was another company that was highlighted, I believe, called Swatish.
00:23:07.000 And this is very interesting.
00:23:09.000 Swatish, this is another Y Combinator funded company.
00:23:13.000 And it says We offer a free U.S. FDIC insured checking account, free credit card, no interest rate, collateral fees, free ATT SIM card shipped to your home with 40% cheaper plans than retail, and save thousands of dollars in remittances to our customers, all by opening a free Swatish account.
00:23:31.000 We enable New to America, expats become American in the eyes of.
00:23:37.000 There's actually a grammar, a typo error there, by the way.
00:23:39.000 So, I wonder what the nationality of the person that wrote this up is.
00:23:44.000 In the eyes of the U.S. financial system, we're starting by serving 150,000 Indian expats migrating to the U.S. each year.
00:23:53.000 Each year.
00:23:55.000 We have a comprehensive solution that covers banking, credit building, communication, remittances, as well as value add services such as insurance, housing, et cetera, along with all the standard bells and whistles of neo banks.
00:24:09.000 You.
00:24:10.000 I don't think the average American understands that when you get these foreigners and they really want to come to America, the massive amount of infrastructure that has been built around making it easy on them.
00:24:21.000 And the way it's so exploitable, in that because US citizenship is so valuable, that it gives you access to benefits that it turns out are easily scammed.
00:24:32.000 It gets you access to a powerful passport.
00:24:35.000 It gets you access to so many things.
00:24:36.000 And of course, it gets you access to bring in all of your family members.
00:24:38.000 This is such a driver of why it's able to bring wages down that essentially.
00:24:44.000 Anyone who's coming here from a foreign country is being paid extra, something that an American citizen can't get, because they're getting paid with the ability to gain access to America.
00:24:54.000 This has messed up our universities.
00:24:56.000 It's messing up our tech world.
00:24:58.000 And when you combine this with ideological leftism, it's a perfect recipe for like absolutely a bonkers toxification of an important part of an American economy because we want a thriving tech system.
00:25:10.000 Well, it also makes it harder for like DHS and State Department to deal with all this stuff when it's all AI driven.
00:25:15.000 All this stuff.
00:25:16.000 There's another company that's a legal OS.
00:25:18.000 It's an AI native immigration law firm that these people can tap into.
00:25:22.000 Founded in 2024.
00:25:23.000 Great.
00:25:25.000 So, Sean, but what we're exposing is something deeper.
00:25:28.000 It's this, and by the way, Cernovich has been on this.
00:25:31.000 You mentioned Mike Cernovich, friend of the show.
00:25:35.000 Is there an incompatibility with the tech bros?
00:25:37.000 They were new to the coalition, but they seem to constantly be pushing to get more Indians, more foreign workers.
00:25:44.000 What do we do about this in the coalition?
00:25:47.000 Yeah, and I welcome a big coalition.
00:25:50.000 To win elections here, you need lots of people on board.
00:25:52.000 You know, we can't have everyone who's just like me or you or Blake.
00:25:55.000 We know it takes a lot of people to build up a useful political coalition.
00:26:01.000 But my view on new coalition partners is that you are taking a backseat to everyone else.
00:26:07.000 You've not been on the team.
00:26:08.000 You were giving money to Democrats up until about five seconds ago.
00:26:12.000 We know exactly why you hopped on board because you licked your finger and stuck it into the wind and saw which way it was blowing.
00:26:18.000 That's fine, but you don't get to drive this bus.
00:26:21.000 Okay, you are a passenger now.
00:26:24.000 And what I think these left wing tech bros simply don't understand is the choice before you right now is you're not going back to 2004, 2012 and Mitt Romney republicanism.
00:26:35.000 Okay, those days are over and they're gone forever.
00:26:38.000 What you are going to get is you're going to get left wing socialism in Luigi Mangione, or you are going to get right wing America First MAGA populism.
00:26:47.000 Those are your choices.
00:26:49.000 So if you're going to come in and hijack this bus and think that somehow you're going to get to drive it back in time, You are insane.
00:26:56.000 And by the way, they may think people like you and me are crazy because we say the things we do and we don't really like what they're doing.
00:27:03.000 They don't have to worry about us sneaking up behind them as they walk around a street corner in New York and shooting them in the back.
00:27:08.000 Okay.
00:27:09.000 That's what left wingers do.
00:27:10.000 And they need to make a choice.
00:27:11.000 You can be with Luigi or you can get on board, understand you're not driving the bus anymore, that you're a passenger, but you can get on board and be with us and you will be safe.
00:27:20.000 Those are your choices.
00:27:21.000 That's it.
00:27:22.000 So you got to pick.
00:27:23.000 Yeah.
00:27:23.000 It's such, it's so bizarre.
00:27:25.000 And it's something I like that someone pointed out a lot of these guys got.
00:27:29.000 So rich because they were good with computers, which means they weren't necessarily good at social skills as kids.
00:27:33.000 That they're confused where they brought in a ton of people from the third world and then they see this rising socialism, rising communism, rising anti rich sentiment in all the places where they are concentrated.
00:27:45.000 And it's like they need to get the idea.
00:27:47.000 Okay, if you guys want to side with the right, you actually have to get on board with some of our platform and we're happy to play ball.
00:27:52.000 The left is not going to play ball as soon as they decide that you need to be chucked.
00:27:58.000 They need to get the message and get on board.
00:27:59.000 I totally agree.
00:28:01.000 And there's this great tweet, by the way, because we got to, I think we should talk a little bit about this.
00:28:06.000 This, Anti Indian sentiment that is very palpable, especially in places like Frisco, Texas.
00:28:14.000 But there's this tweet that was really, I just had me cracking up the responses to it.
00:28:19.000 This was from Nandini Gupta.
00:28:20.000 He says, H 1B Indians staying in America should leave the USA as soon as possible so that America faces a massive economic downfall.
00:28:30.000 We'll make them beg us to come back to their country for free.
00:28:33.000 The American IT sector will fall to pieces without H 1B Indian workers here.
00:28:38.000 And everybody's responses were like, Your terms are agreeable.
00:28:41.000 We will, you know, like, oh man.
00:28:45.000 And there's actually some stuff, you know, I want to highlight this tweet from Chris, a guy named Chris Corner, who apparently he runs, owns eight RV parks with investors and seven plus companies in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
00:28:59.000 And he goes, It's becoming uncomfortably racist here in the Dallas suburbs.
00:29:04.000 Here are the facts Indians are 2% of the Dallas Fort Worth area and own 5.3% of the businesses.
00:29:10.000 Dallas Fort Worth's Indian population more than doubled from 2000 to 2010 and is at 220,000 today.
00:29:18.000 Asian Indians are the majority in many Frisco subdivisions, and Frisco is one of the wealthiest, fastest growing suburbs in America.
00:29:26.000 In Frisco, where Indians are the largest Asian group, Asian medium household income is $190,000.
00:29:32.000 Medium home prices at $642,000, poverty 3.5%.
00:29:37.000 Name the Dallas Fort Worth suburbs with the most Indian families.
00:29:40.000 Plano Allen.
00:29:42.000 Now name the ones with the best schools and the highest home appreciation.
00:29:45.000 Same list.
00:29:46.000 Okay.
00:29:46.000 So that's his point.
00:29:47.000 He's like, hey, you guys are hate.
00:29:49.000 And by the way, I don't condone racism against Indians.
00:29:52.000 I have no special animosity for Indians.
00:29:54.000 I am, any groups that are coming in taking American jobs, I don't like.
00:29:59.000 And they happen to be one of the chief H 1B recipients, right?
00:30:03.000 It's just like 70% of H 1Bs are Indians.
00:30:05.000 Okay.
00:30:05.000 But, anyways, our friend Steven Crowder had a nice rebuttal.
00:30:09.000 He said, well, get this.
00:30:11.000 Indians only donate 1% of their income to charity.
00:30:14.000 Americans, on average, donate over 4%.
00:30:16.000 Church going Christians making under $100,000 a year donate 5.4 to 11%.
00:30:21.000 And he said $32 billion a year gets remitted from the U.S. to India.
00:30:27.000 That's big.
00:30:28.000 And by the way, Plano and Frisco were already top ranked Texas school districts back in 2010.
00:30:34.000 The median household income in Plano and Frisco has been over $100,000 since 2010.
00:30:38.000 Well, I think it's interesting because it.
00:30:41.000 The entire discussion around Indian immigration gets in elements of the debate over immigration that you don't usually have because we obviously are most worried about immigrants who come in and they're criminals, they're immediately huge welfare sponges, quality leering centers, all of that.
00:30:58.000 And that's really bad, and we want to block that.
00:30:59.000 But there are other downsides to immigration, and it can come even when, as a lot of Indian immigrants do, they do follow the law, they actually are academically high achieving.
00:31:08.000 But what you are doing when you do it at scale is You are bringing in people who are from outside of your cultural sphere.
00:31:16.000 They're from outside, they don't have the same values you do.
00:31:20.000 Even if they're not wantonly violent or destructive, they're just different.
00:31:24.000 And especially if they're actually very talented, you're basically creating a new elite for your country.
00:31:30.000 And it's usually not good for a country when it has a new elite of people who don't feel historically connected to that country.
00:31:38.000 And I think that's what's driving some of those takes on X that are making people really angry.
00:31:44.000 It's this guy who's just not historically from America, and he has obvious, blinding contempt for ordinary Americans.
00:31:51.000 And that's going to set people off.
00:31:53.000 Even if he's a talented guy who's created jobs and founded nice companies.
00:31:58.000 Sean, your take.
00:31:59.000 Yeah, so it's interesting.
00:32:01.000 I believe this radical thought that stems from the Constitution, the Declaration, that America exists to secure the blessings of liberty for Americans, which is to say, America exists for Americans.
00:32:14.000 Now, does that mean we should never, ever let anyone in again, ever from a foreign country?
00:32:20.000 No, but it does mean that America needs to stay American.
00:32:23.000 And you reach a certain point with immigration where the numbers get so high.
00:32:27.000 That you have a tipping point where the people who are coming in are no longer becoming American.
00:32:33.000 What they are doing is becoming people who just live in America.
00:32:36.000 And you can see this in the cultural practices they retain.
00:32:39.000 You can see this in where they are sending their money via remittances.
00:32:43.000 So many, such a high percentage of people who are coming in do not see themselves as American.
00:32:49.000 They see themselves still as Indian.
00:32:51.000 They see their roots as Indian.
00:32:52.000 They are not willing to assimilate into our culture.
00:32:55.000 And that is how you destroy a culture.
00:32:57.000 And so you might ask well, who cares?
00:32:59.000 You know, America's awesome.
00:33:01.000 That let them make money.
00:33:02.000 Who cares about the culture?
00:33:04.000 The culture is why we are better than everyone else.
00:33:07.000 That is an objective statement.
00:33:08.000 If we weren't better than everyone else, everyone else wouldn't be trying to come here.
00:33:13.000 So, America invented the automobile and the airplane.
00:33:15.000 We split the atom.
00:33:16.000 We created the aircraft carrier.
00:33:18.000 We made computers and the internet.
00:33:20.000 We put rockets in space.
00:33:21.000 Okay.
00:33:22.000 We put a man on the moon.
00:33:24.000 Other countries did not do this.
00:33:25.000 Americans did this.
00:33:26.000 People like Homer Hickam from West Virginia did this.
00:33:29.000 So, I want everyone else to understand we don't actually need you here.
00:33:33.000 We have been the best country in all of history without you.
00:33:37.000 So, the fact that we let you come here is a gift that you should be thankful for.
00:33:41.000 You should want to become American and adopt our practices and beliefs because they are better.
00:33:47.000 And at this point, I have no tolerance for the people who want to come in and replace our culture with theirs because if theirs was better, they wouldn't need to be here in the first place.
00:33:56.000 And I love the self confidence.
00:33:58.000 As a country, we need to get back to a place where we're confident in ourselves and our own culture.
00:34:04.000 And we have a culture, by the way.
00:34:05.000 We're Americans, we have a heritage, we're a people.
00:34:10.000 This note kind of, you know, people, we go back to the tech bro thing.
00:34:15.000 We have this issue within our own party as well.
00:34:18.000 When you look at like Senator Curtis from Utah, who wants to sort of, he has a bill to bring, I guess, a certain number of immigration choices back to the state level so that they can import foreign labor and replace Americans.
00:34:32.000 What do we, why is this such a dogged problem within the conservative ranks?
00:34:37.000 And how the heck do we get it out?
00:34:39.000 Because I think the base is completely in alignment here.
00:34:41.000 Yeah, I think there's really two camps.
00:34:44.000 You have the base, which says, Hey, we feel like we're losing our country, and this country is our birthright.
00:34:49.000 It belongs to us.
00:34:50.000 Our fathers and grandfathers and great, great, great grandfathers died and shed their blood for this place.
00:34:56.000 Okay, so this is ours, and we want to protect it.
00:34:58.000 And on the other side, you have a lot of people who are probably more materialistic, a little more money minded, who see the immigration.
00:35:06.000 They're like, Well, this would allow me to make more money because I can pay people less for the same job.
00:35:12.000 And I don't really care if they come in and they actually cost more on net because the government's going to pay for it.
00:35:19.000 And I can spread that cost over everyone else in the country as opposed to absorbing it.
00:35:25.000 So it becomes kind of like a dollars versus a cultural protection argument.
00:35:30.000 And I think far too many people in the party right now care more about how much they're making right now than they do about leaving a legacy in a country to their kids and their grandchildren that will give them the same opportunities that they had.
00:35:42.000 You know, it's really simple things for me, too.
00:35:46.000 I want to go to a park and talk to people that feel like my neighbors, I want to go to the DMV and hear English.
00:35:52.000 I want to go to the emergency room if I have to use it and not feel like it's Ellis Island.
00:35:58.000 You know, simple things.
00:36:00.000 Simple things.
00:36:00.000 Yeah.
00:36:01.000 And there's a, by the way, there's a tax, you know, and all the fraud and all of those things are fair.
00:36:08.000 But just Americans feeling like it's America, that's really core, actually, to this.
00:36:14.000 And that gets lost so often in the debate.
00:36:17.000 And that's xenophobic and that's bigoted and hateful.
00:36:20.000 No, it's not.
00:36:21.000 It's just normal.
00:36:22.000 It's just what normal people want.
00:36:24.000 Sean Davis, the man.
00:36:25.000 Thank you, my friend.
00:36:26.000 Good to see you.
00:36:27.000 Thank you, sir.
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00:37:26.000 Your friend Andrew sent you.
00:37:29.000 We have the best, I guess, what do we call him?
00:37:33.000 The best MAGA pollster.
00:37:35.000 What do people call you, Rich Barris?
00:37:37.000 The people's pundit, big data poll.
00:37:40.000 But it is true.
00:37:42.000 In an era, this is why I love Rich.
00:37:45.000 In an era where pollsters were all establishment pollsters, they were all left leaning and they didn't know how to poll the right, Rich Barris came in and made a huge name for himself because you understand the base better than anybody.
00:37:58.000 I really believe that in this space, Rich.
00:38:00.000 But we've got a little bit of a different challenge for you today because you're not a one trick pony.
00:38:04.000 You know the left as well, and you understand what's driving these surges.
00:38:08.000 You poll everybody and you hear from voters.
00:38:11.000 You're one of the few pollsters out there that is actually picking up the phone yourself or engaging in back and forth in digital communications.
00:38:19.000 So, the question that I have, and this has come up over the last couple of days, that's something I've been percolating on.
00:38:24.000 If you think about El Sayed, and I was on with Will Kane yesterday on Fox talking about something similar, that the left, the DSA is no longer the fringe.
00:38:32.000 They are in some ways, in many ways, the dominant movement within the Democrat Party.
00:38:37.000 So you ask yourself somebody like El Syed, which is this has been a huge, huge controversy on the left.
00:38:43.000 If you watch CNN, if you watch MSNBC or MSNI, whatever it is, all they're talking about is Hassan Piker.
00:38:49.000 You've got the former Obama bros talking about, can we just please not talk about Hassan Piker for one day?
00:38:55.000 It is dividing their movement.
00:38:56.000 El Syed has not condemned Hassan Piker for many of the things that he said, which are ghoulish and awful and gross.
00:39:04.000 And he's a, I just think he's the lowest of the low.
00:39:08.000 He celebrates assassination culture, all this.
00:39:10.000 Why is El Sayed not doing it?
00:39:12.000 Is it because he doesn't want to look bad, like he caved to the mob?
00:39:15.000 Or is it because he sees the polling?
00:39:17.000 He knows the numbers.
00:39:18.000 He knows who's going to show up for him.
00:39:20.000 So, what is the polling behind somebody like Hassan Piker?
00:39:24.000 Yeah, it's interesting, Andrew, because we're in a midterm cycle.
00:39:27.000 So, if El Syed is, it's a risk here.
00:39:31.000 If he does outright condemn him, and you can see him trying to distance himself from Hassan Piker, but he's not condemning or ostracizing him because he knows, regardless, and even in a midterm cycle, there still is the majority of the Democratic Party that generally shares most of the views that Hassan Piker shares.
00:39:50.000 That's just a fact.
00:39:51.000 I think.
00:39:52.000 I watched on X the other day, Tyler from TP.
00:39:55.000 I mean, he was right.
00:39:56.000 Within 10 years, the Democratic Party, I actually think that's probably a lot.
00:39:59.000 Within 10 years, the Democratic Party will almost have assuredly lost this fight to the DSA because more and more and more Democrats over the years have continued to identify as Democratic socialists, not just as traditional liberals.
00:40:13.000 That identification is down like 12, 15% of Democrat identifying voters.
00:40:20.000 So he's not doing it because he's afraid of alienating Democrats.
00:40:24.000 What is effectively the Democratic base.
00:40:26.000 But here's the kicker it's a midterm.
00:40:29.000 And the question, which we're going to find out here in a couple of days, it's Thursday, we'll start tomorrow.
00:40:33.000 The question is Does embracing somebody like Assam Piker hurt you enough in a midterm to cost you a Senate seat in a place like Michigan?
00:40:41.000 Because it's risky to do for short term gains, because when we get to 2028, it almost assuredly will doom you.
00:40:49.000 So there will be, of course, more younger voters who agree with Assam Piker, especially on the left.
00:40:55.000 And it's, it's, You know, you might as well roll a dice if you're Al Said right now because you don't know.
00:41:00.000 The truth is, though, if he can get them both out, this is what actually makes him more dangerous than what people seem to want to.
00:41:08.000 They don't want to just accept this.
00:41:10.000 But somebody like Haley Stevens was going to get the traditional Democrat out, and that's it.
00:41:15.000 And in a tight race in some place like Michigan, that gave Rogers a decent chance, despite what people may think.
00:41:22.000 The conventional wisdom is completely backward.
00:41:24.000 The danger of Al Said is that he does consolidate that Democratic.
00:41:29.000 Base, which it looks like, regardless of what we see online in the polling, he has.
00:41:35.000 If those other additional voters who are not traditional midterm voters come out as well, it will make him even more difficult.
00:41:43.000 We have seen something like this with Graham Plattner.
00:41:45.000 If Bernie Sanders guys would have won the nomination in 2016, would Donald Trump have carried the state of Michigan by 10,000 votes?
00:41:54.000 Probably not, because 12 to 16% of Bernie's left wing populist support went to Donald Trump.
00:42:01.000 So A lot of the conventional wisdom is that the establishment candidate is typically stronger.
00:42:06.000 Four years ago, guys, that was true.
00:42:09.000 You know, somebody like Joe Biden taking it from Bernie Sanders gave them a better shot in 2020, even.
00:42:15.000 But that's not really true now because back then, 40% of the Democratic base called themselves a DSA or aligned themselves with Democratic Socialism.
00:42:24.000 Now, when you ask them what they identify with, leave the Democratic Socialists of America organization out of it and just ask them ideologically, who do you align more with?
00:42:34.000 And they say, Democratic Socialists.
00:42:36.000 Every day of the week.
00:42:37.000 That's so interesting.
00:42:39.000 Yeah, I mean, there's that Gallup poll that shows 66% of Democrats now view socialism favorably, right?
00:42:47.000 When you take the DSA out of it, more Democrats now view socialism favorably than they view capitalism favorably.
00:42:54.000 If you look at Veristat, they do a temperature gauge.
00:42:57.000 They did it, I think, last time in June.
00:43:00.000 The top three current office holders in the Democrat Party, their most favorable, the highest favorability ratings AOC, Bernie Sanders, Mamdani.
00:43:08.000 Yeah, so.
00:43:09.000 So, we see they're saying they like socialism more, they like capitalism less, but we've seen some quirks to this, like that socialists are now the most pro free trade part of the US because that means you're opposing Trump's tariffs, for example, when historically socialists would not feel that way.
00:43:26.000 So, how does this work out in terms of what they actually want policy wise?
00:43:31.000 Are they embracing, besides saying they like socialism more, does this generation of young Democrats, what do they actually want government to do that older Democrats?
00:43:40.000 Wouldn't share with them?
00:43:41.000 Or is there more similarity in what they'd actually want government to do than we might expect?
00:43:46.000 This is getting a little bit into burn it down territory here, Blake, because in truth, they're early and they're a bit premature in their movement, even though they've been around for a while, but they haven't identified policy platforms as sophisticated as another movement like the MAGA movement did, even very early, where Donald Trump got into specifics about why he was where he was on trade and immigration and how that benefited the worker.
00:44:12.000 The DSA and the Democratic Socialists right now have some conflict.
00:44:15.000 They're for positions that the public actually doesn't see, even younger people, many of them, they don't see as benefiting them.
00:44:24.000 And that's the in for the right, okay?
00:44:26.000 Because they'll get into a fight with the Democratic establishment if they do get a lot more office, if they start to hold a lot more offices.
00:44:34.000 They'll get into a fight with some members of the Democratic establishment on where they want to go.
00:44:39.000 Because the truth is, if you asked a common Democratic voter, not just A middle of the road or average voter.
00:44:47.000 If you ask a common Democratic voter, what do they stand for that differentiates themselves from the establishment Democratic Party, they'll maybe answer Israel.
00:44:58.000 And that's it.
00:44:59.000 That's all.
00:45:00.000 It's well, Democrats still largely, elected Democrats still largely support Israel and foreign aid to Israel, where the DSA does not.
00:45:06.000 When we get into places like trade, they're very gray.
00:45:10.000 All they know is that very general stuff.
00:45:13.000 I'm against oligarchy, but are you really?
00:45:16.000 If that's where your position is on trade, on free trade, because you're anti Trump, are you really against the oligarchy?
00:45:23.000 Because Donald Trump's trade policy is anti oligarchy.
00:45:27.000 So this is where the right has an in right now.
00:45:29.000 And I know that doesn't directly answer what you were saying, but I really did want everyone to understand there's a way to counter these people.
00:45:35.000 And it's not the way we're handling it now, it's substance.
00:45:39.000 I mean, Donald Trump, for the media, never really saw it in 2015 and 16.
00:45:44.000 He was very substantive.
00:45:45.000 And that is the direction that the right has to take now to combat these people and their message.
00:45:49.000 Yeah.
00:45:50.000 And it kind of strikes me that they're going to get better on their policy platforms.
00:45:56.000 The intellectual vanguard is going to come up with some ideas, just like we saw MAGA sort of mature over time.
00:46:04.000 The Democratic Party right now is, I think, going through a kind of experiment.
00:46:10.000 Like, who can actually respond, particularly to young people's very real concerns about where they are at this point in their lives and what kind of future do they have for themselves?
00:46:24.000 And I think that's healthy.
00:46:28.000 She thinks it's healthy there, Rich, to experiment with a bunch of socialists and communists in the party.
00:46:35.000 But the question is so, and here's always been the big caveat with the left they don't know when to stop.
00:46:40.000 They don't know when too much is too much.
00:46:43.000 They don't have a self limiting agency.
00:46:45.000 It doesn't seem.
00:46:46.000 As soon as they get momentum, they go too far.
00:46:48.000 And there is a difference between electability and favorability.
00:46:53.000 So even though Mamdani, And AOC and Bernie might be the most favorable candidates according to their base.
00:47:00.000 Doesn't mean that those are electable candidates, especially in a state like Michigan, which is a purple state.
00:47:06.000 Mandel Syed's trying to win it as a far left candidate.
00:47:08.000 So, what is this experiment?
00:47:11.000 And do you think that they are going to ultimately go too far and create an opportunity for us?
00:47:16.000 You know, this Hillary saying that is interesting to me because, you know, back in 2016 when she ran, what you just said was everywhere.
00:47:25.000 And for the last year, Democrats did, or maybe more, actually, almost two now.
00:47:29.000 For the last couple of, you know, 15, 16 months, it seemed like Democrats learned discipline for a little bit.
00:47:36.000 They were just quiet.
00:47:37.000 They were letting the right commit all these self inflicted wounds and an infight.
00:47:42.000 There's been a lot of infighting.
00:47:44.000 Now it seems that the DSA has caused them to revert.
00:47:49.000 And this is always the great right hope, right?
00:47:53.000 Is that Democrats can't control themselves.
00:47:56.000 And it does seem like I think, and I just mentioned this the other day, I'm seeing glimmers, Andrew, of the Democrat party that we all know coming back because they're trying to placate these people and they really don't know how.
00:48:10.000 And in the process, they're crazy starting to leak through, right?
00:48:15.000 I mean, you're seeing their stupid stuff that that side talks about, the far left side talks about, seeping into what is their mainstream conversation.
00:48:25.000 Like, we constantly have to focus on Natalie.
00:48:28.000 We constantly have to focus on Trump's name on a building.
00:48:31.000 And they get crazy.
00:48:32.000 They lose their minds over this stuff.
00:48:34.000 Hakeem Jeffries, I don't know if you, I'm sure you guys saw it.
00:48:38.000 It looks to me like the potential future Speaker of the House took a filly to the face.
00:48:43.000 And he decided he was going to go blunted to do a live stream.
00:48:46.000 I mean, everyone was talking about his New York Yankee hat.
00:48:49.000 I don't know about you guys.
00:48:50.000 That is not what I saw.
00:48:52.000 I mean, that deeply disturbed me.
00:48:55.000 But this is what's going on because why did he do it?
00:48:58.000 He did it for the same reason that Hillary made that statement.
00:49:01.000 He was trying to placate people who had heard him meeting with Jared Kushner and they flipped out over it because, God forbid, you have a conversation with the other side about anything, right?
00:49:10.000 Like adults.
00:49:12.000 God forbid.
00:49:13.000 And they flipped out and he had to go put a fire out.
00:49:16.000 Because he didn't want the DSA stomping all over him, right?
00:49:19.000 He could be the potential next speaker.
00:49:21.000 He's got to make sure that they're okay.
00:49:22.000 So they're crazy is seeping through because they're not going to be able to contain the DSA.
00:49:28.000 And Hillary, she flirted with it too.
00:49:30.000 And she did it for nothing because Trump wound up taking a bunch of those Bernie voters anyway.
00:49:35.000 Yeah.
00:49:36.000 Well, so because he did an end around on their populist economics.
00:49:39.000 That's right.
00:49:39.000 But they are, I think, we are at risk of losing that edge right now with the DSA.
00:49:45.000 This was interesting.
00:49:46.000 Cory Booker.
00:49:47.000 Came out, and this was all over the social medias yesterday.
00:49:51.000 Hassan Piker's dangerous and hateful language targeting Jewish Americans has no place in our civic discourse.
00:49:56.000 Suggesting that Jewish Americans bear responsibility for hatred or violence directed against them is wrong, dangerous, and anti Semitic.
00:50:02.000 You know, and he kind of goes on and he said, Mr. Piker has crossed that line repeatedly and unmistakably.
00:50:07.000 I actually applaud him coming out and having a bit of moral courage because I don't think it was popular.
00:50:12.000 Is it moral, though?
00:50:13.000 Is it moral, or is it because he has huge communities of Hasidics and Lady Jackson?
00:50:17.000 Well, that's exactly right.
00:50:18.000 That's exactly right.
00:50:19.000 I mean, he's the blenderer.
00:50:21.000 Yeah, I mean, so, of course, New Jersey, right?
00:50:23.000 You've got a massive Jewish community, especially in northern New Jersey.
00:50:28.000 I get the politics of it, but, you know, it's okay with me because he's actually doing the right thing with Hassan Piker.
00:50:35.000 But this, I don't think it was popular for him nationally.
00:50:38.000 I don't think this was popular with him in his party at all.
00:50:41.000 And it's not.
00:50:42.000 And this is something that I've tried to convey to people.
00:50:46.000 You know, the elected Democratic class is.
00:50:52.000 On this issue, the issue of support for Israel, I think we're letting Democrats get away while the right calls each other anti Semitic.
00:50:59.000 We're letting Democrats get away with what's happening beneath their surface because the John Fettermans, the Cory Bookers, they do not represent the average Democratic voter.
00:51:10.000 Guys, support for Israel, and it's coming from a very, I feel like on the right, it's a shame.
00:51:16.000 I feel like on the right, a lot of honest discussion, and I'm not saying it's all honest or in good faith, but a lot of honest discussion is getting labeled anti Semitic.
00:51:25.000 But I'm telling you on the left, It's really anti Semitic.
00:51:28.000 When you're a pollster and an average Democratic voter has no problem saying something anti Semitic to the pollster interviewing them and not thinking, not even understanding that that's real hatred.
00:51:41.000 You know, I mean, their issue is, you know, maybe 10 years ago was the treatment of the Palestinian people and they really cared about that.
00:51:49.000 But we've moved into something else on the left.
00:51:51.000 And unfortunately, the right needs to refocus, they need to stop the infighting and they need to direct their.
00:51:57.000 You know, their fire where it belongs, you know, their criticisms where it really does belong because you could go to Detroit and hear some real anti Semitism, folks.
00:52:09.000 Yeah, no.
00:52:09.000 Rich, I think it's interesting too because we've been talking about this horseshoe theory, you know, where you're seeing certain online personalities that, you know, are right coded, that were Trump supporters, but now they're sort of saying the left right paradigm.
00:52:22.000 I tend to think that that's all about foreign policy.
00:52:25.000 I really think that's the driving factor.
00:52:26.000 On the right.
00:52:27.000 On the right.
00:52:28.000 Yeah, me too.
00:52:29.000 Me too.
00:52:30.000 Yeah.
00:52:30.000 Well, the question is, what do we do about it and how do you message it?
00:52:33.000 Here's actually a different question.
00:52:35.000 We started the show off with Orrin McIntyre talking about how Trump is stacking up wins quietly right now.
00:52:40.000 There's like H 1B.
00:52:42.000 We've got this visa pause.
00:52:43.000 There's like actually a lot of good stuff going on right now.
00:52:48.000 Are you seeing us turn a corner?
00:52:50.000 Blake has made the point that August tends to be our low point in midterms when we're polling.
00:52:55.000 Is there any hope that we can start?
00:52:58.000 You know, no?
00:52:59.000 You're not seeing any more events to be asked?
00:53:00.000 No, I mean, listen.
00:53:02.000 There's, and I have so little time to address it, but it isn't necessarily true that the summer is a lull.
00:53:10.000 There's like, and I've talked to people all the way at the top who say the same thing, but it really is the out of party power has a boost and then tends to gain.
00:53:20.000 So, yeah, there was a lull in 22, but that's because there was, you know, it was a better Republican year.
00:53:26.000 There was a lull in 16, but it was a better Republican year.
00:53:29.000 When you look at something like 18, you know, there really wasn't.
00:53:33.000 So, It really is more about the out of party than it is about just something that targets Republicans.
00:53:41.000 Is there a turn?
00:53:41.000 Look, I think we are seeing more enthusiasm, and I have a lot of hope.
00:53:47.000 I guess hope is not even the word.
00:53:49.000 I'm bullish on the convention's ability to snap people out of things.
00:53:53.000 And I think Aaron is right.
00:53:55.000 There are a lot of wins beneath the surface.
00:53:57.000 And you would say, well, why aren't we showcasing them?
00:54:00.000 Go look at the midterm convention schedule.
00:54:03.000 And very clearly, they intend to do it there.
00:54:05.000 And they ignore Iran, which they should, which is smart.
00:54:08.000 And I know they're getting criticized, but that's the right thing.
00:54:10.000 And tout those wins and snap people out of it, which I think we are starting to see a little bit of a wink out of the fog.
00:54:16.000 Rich Barris, author of Burn It Down.
00:54:18.000 Go get a copy.
00:54:19.000 Big Data Poll, The People's Pun.
00:54:20.000 And thank you, Rich.
00:54:22.000 All the best, guys.
00:54:25.000 I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend.
00:54:30.000 And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage, it was what was behind the scenes.
00:54:36.000 That was an unwavering commitment to his faith.
00:54:39.000 His love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction.
00:54:45.000 Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize.
00:54:49.000 He didn't put it in a box.
00:54:51.000 He lived it out loud.
00:54:52.000 It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day.
00:54:56.000 Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart.
00:54:59.000 This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie.
00:55:02.000 It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested.
00:55:11.000 I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together.
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00:55:35.000 You have been the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:55:40.000 We are Americans, and we are going to win.
00:55:46.000 Who would not love to celebrate America?
00:55:49.000 You fight.
00:55:50.000 That's what America was founded on.
00:55:52.000 We will stand strong.
00:55:54.000 and unshakable in our resolve.
00:55:57.000 You give me hope that America has a very, very bright future.
00:56:01.000 Together, we can change the future.
00:56:04.000 The ideas that have created the United States were the best ideas that anybody ever had for founding a country.
00:56:08.000 And we're the country that everybody wants to go to.
00:56:11.000 We are the greatest.
00:56:13.000 We should be thankful, not angry, to live in this country.
00:56:17.000 America is the only country where even those who hate it refuse to leave.
00:56:21.000 That's how you know you live in a great country.
00:56:27.000 That's right.
00:56:28.000 That's right.
00:56:29.000 America Love It or Leave It tour was just announced yesterday.
00:56:33.000 Everybody's talking about it.
00:56:34.000 They got all kinds of takes, which we love because the buzz is important.
00:56:38.000 That's part of what makes our tour season so exciting.
00:56:42.000 Will Witt, welcome.
00:56:43.000 Let's bring you in here.
00:56:44.000 I see you.
00:56:45.000 Will Witt, the man, the myth, our newest contributor at Turning Point.
00:56:49.000 We're grateful to have you, Will, and welcome to the team.
00:56:52.000 You've already been doing great work.
00:56:53.000 You were doing Pick Up the Mic tour last year, and it was phenomenal.
00:56:56.000 We had some great clips with you.
00:56:58.000 And so now we have the fall tour, though.
00:57:02.000 And this is a big, big deal around Turning Point.
00:57:05.000 So, internally at Turning Point, when we announce our tours and our tour schedules, it's a big day.
00:57:10.000 Yesterday was the day.
00:57:12.000 Andrew Cypher's the man behind all of this work.
00:57:16.000 Tell us about it.
00:57:17.000 Well, the tour is so special to us.
00:57:20.000 For those that have been to America Fest, it is America Fest on the road that caters specifically to our high school and college students, right?
00:57:28.000 This is the programming that represents what they want to see, what they want to hear.
00:57:32.000 Students, this is how Charlie changed the needle going into 2024, right?
00:57:38.000 Was the tours, and we started them over a decade ago, bringing Charlie to rooms of about 100, 200, maybe 300 kids.
00:57:46.000 We started Charlie going to assemblies of five people trying to get them to debate him.
00:57:50.000 Yeah, the first time I brought him to a campus, I got 100 kids into a room, and I was proud of myself.
00:57:55.000 Oh, yeah.
00:57:55.000 Yeah, I kept my job, and that's why I'm still here.
00:57:57.000 Yeah.
00:57:59.000 People don't know that Cypher's been here longer than I've been with Turning Point and Charlie.
00:58:03.000 You were 16.
00:58:04.000 You're OG, bro.
00:58:05.000 This is 2016, back in the day when we were begging people to come.
00:58:08.000 Yeah, you'd have to send staff around to be like, Would you like to debate Charlie Kirk?
00:58:12.000 We had this young whippersnapper that's like coming in here and do you want to debate him?
00:58:16.000 Like, who?
00:58:18.000 And you know, here's the incredible thing about the tour the tour does two things.
00:58:22.000 One, it addresses the culture war that's happening on college campuses.
00:58:26.000 And two, it helps elevate new and upcoming names in the conservative movement.
00:58:30.000 Will Witt, it's a full circle having Will Witt part of this tour because Will Witt, back in the day when we, in the early days of Turning Point USA, he was a student in Colorado helping build some of the early names of the Turning Point tour with Anna Paulina Luna, who's now a congresswoman for us, Brandon Tatum, who's a well known influencer in the movement.
00:58:51.000 And those were just young, upcoming names at the time that Will Witt and others as students were hosting as part of our campus tour.
00:58:58.000 And now Will Witt is one of those upcoming names that we are building.
00:59:01.000 I don't mean to get ahead of myself here, but throw up graphic 183.
00:59:06.000 And I want you to.
00:59:07.000 Will Witt is.
00:59:08.000 His face now is all the way up.
00:59:11.000 You only get outclassed by Riley Gaines here, Will.
00:59:14.000 That's it.
00:59:14.000 That's the only person ahead of you on this graphic.
00:59:17.000 Stonks.
00:59:18.000 Yeah.
00:59:18.000 Which is getting to the second.
00:59:19.000 Riley is much better than me.
00:59:20.000 But, Will, you're also part of the big campus tour.
00:59:25.000 And I know because we've talked that you're pumped about that.
00:59:30.000 What school are you going to be at?
00:59:32.000 Or schools?
00:59:32.000 I actually can't remember.
00:59:34.000 Will, and why are you.
00:59:35.000 Like, pumped to be a part of this.
00:59:37.000 Yeah, so for the tour, I mean, first of all, thanks, guys.
00:59:39.000 I mean, this is just so cool to be on this tour, to be able to do all the campuses.
00:59:42.000 I mean, it's really a dream to be able to do this.
00:59:45.000 And like Andrew said, come back full circle.
00:59:47.000 You know, this ain't my first rodeo with all this, but to be back and doing it basically full time in the semester is so cool.
00:59:52.000 And so I'll be at Reno, I know, and then I'll also be at Cal Poly Slow for like the bigger tour events.
00:59:58.000 And those should be super cool.
00:59:59.000 You know, one of the things that I think is so important that I think Charlie was so good at, which I'm sure you guys have noticed as well, is that.
01:00:05.000 A lot of people are kind of getting into this movement right now and they say they're conservatives, but their actual views on conservatism are very shallow.
01:00:14.000 And so I think one of the things that's really good about this tour is they get to hear from people like myself and all the other people on there to actually help strengthen those ideas because going on social media and seeing clips of conservative stuff isn't what's going to save this country.
01:00:27.000 It actually takes people understanding the ideas, reading the original thinkers, and asking questions to be able to save this country.
01:00:33.000 And so I think this tour is going to be doing exactly that.
01:00:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that's such a good point you just brought up.
01:00:40.000 I think one of the things in this recent season, when you see all this tumult on social media, is that the roots didn't go down very deep with some people.
01:00:48.000 And when things get a little bit hard, they want to bail on it for vibes or feels.
01:00:53.000 I mean, this is something you talk about a lot.
01:00:54.000 A lot of people have, they kind of have good gut feelings, but they're in an environment that's very hostile to maybe the values they grew up with, but now they're in college and they're not in that surrounding environment.
01:01:05.000 They don't necessarily think about politics that hard, so they're vulnerable to arguments that are actually pretty weak.
01:01:11.000 But they've never argued against them.
01:01:13.000 And they gain strength from just being in an auditorium where they see someone who's confident, who can make an argument that maybe they've struggled to make themselves, and then it'll stick in their brain.
01:01:25.000 They just need the people to be voicing the views they want to agree with.
01:01:29.000 Otherwise, it's not going to stick.
01:01:30.000 Yeah, well, and you've been super consistent over the years and just growing and getting better.
01:01:35.000 And I'd love to point you out as such a success story from the spring semester.
01:01:40.000 You just had all these clips that went viral, got massive views, and you're defending.
01:01:45.000 Conservatism, actual conservatism, not like some sort of vibes and feels thing.
01:01:51.000 You actually believe this stuff.
01:01:52.000 And I want to commend you for that because there's a lot of people that come in and out of the movement and they wash out, and you've got staying power.
01:02:00.000 And the fact that we're getting this full circle moment with you is really exciting for me.
01:02:06.000 I know it is for you too, Cypher.
01:02:07.000 Yeah.
01:02:08.000 And the reality, I mean, Blake touched on it so perfectly, is two thirds of those involved in the movement right now on the college level.
01:02:16.000 And high school level started after 9 10 of last year.
01:02:22.000 So, two thirds of our student leaders have joined the movement after the assassination, where they said, I'm standing up, I'm getting involved.
01:02:29.000 Those kids want to learn more.
01:02:31.000 They're excited for this because this is their turning point that they are living in real time that they did not get experienced prior.
01:02:37.000 There are so many people who are inspired.
01:02:38.000 We get emails all the time.
01:02:40.000 We just got one from the UK, actually, a kid who said, Charlie massively inspires me, and he's the guy I look to model my life around.
01:02:48.000 There are people who go that far, others who just say, I love his ability to debate, his confidence, and they want to learn from him and be modeled after him.
01:02:58.000 We don't have Charlie anymore, so we need other people to pick up the mic, as it were, and continue this tradition.
01:03:03.000 Yeah.
01:03:04.000 Well, in the so there's two, I want to make sure this is very clear for people out there, and we're going to get into the pick up the mic thing in segment two with Will and Andrew.
01:03:12.000 But we're talking about this the big campus tour.
01:03:14.000 These are the tent pole events where we do a massive, you know, event with live people.
01:03:18.000 We do QA.
01:03:19.000 If you disagree, you come to the front of the line.
01:03:22.000 That is mandatory at every single one of these events.
01:03:25.000 That if you disagree, you get a chance to debate Will Witt, you get a chance to debate Brandon Gill, you get a chance to debate.
01:03:32.000 Tulsi Gabbard and Don Jr. and Michael Knowles.
01:03:35.000 I mean, this is like what this is really about.
01:03:38.000 So we're excited about that opportunity.
01:03:40.000 And I think this point, you know, some people, it's like they don't understand the dynamic here, Cypher, because actually our campuses are the ones that are requesting these speakers.
01:03:51.000 So the campuses, when we partner with a school, let's say it's at UT Austin, they have like a request list and we try and work with their request list, right?
01:04:00.000 Because we want the chapter to lead.
01:04:01.000 So if you were kind of wondering, like, Some of the names on there, you know, what, what, well, maybe we agree with them on some things.
01:04:08.000 Maybe we don't agree with them on everything, but the kids really wanted to see them.
01:04:11.000 And guess what's going to happen?
01:04:13.000 They're going to have a chance to test their ideas and their positions against kids that are hostile to their worldview.
01:04:19.000 Because this movement is a bottom up movement.
01:04:21.000 And we learned that a long time ago.
01:04:23.000 If you try to impose any programming, they will refuse or reject it.
01:04:28.000 They won't put in any work.
01:04:29.000 If this is a true grassroots movement, they have to be the drivers behind that.
01:04:33.000 Yeah.
01:04:33.000 And so they're the ones, the best chapters are the ones selected.
01:04:38.000 For this tour stop.
01:04:38.000 So it's almost a meritocracy.
01:04:40.000 We're going to the chapters that put in the work when there's no attention on them.
01:04:44.000 They're the ones having the meetings.
01:04:45.000 They're the ones debating, recruiting their peers on campus, rain or shine.
01:04:50.000 And so it's a meritocracy.
01:04:51.000 They're awarded the tour stop.
01:04:53.000 Then we work with them on who are speakers that interest them.
01:04:55.000 And then we go to work with these schools and these speakers to see where does it work with this guy.
01:04:59.000 Yeah, that was kind of a revelation to me when I first started kind of getting involved with the tours and seeing how the sausage is made, is just how much these campuses will are like.
01:05:10.000 Jockeying for position.
01:05:11.000 They're like, no, we want the tour stop.
01:05:13.000 We want the tour stop.
01:05:14.000 And it's like, sometimes it's like, hey, you made the second tier this time, you know, but for the next, it was a spring tour in this instance, like, you know, you're on our list and we're going to, you know, but it's a wild thing.
01:05:24.000 Like, that's got to feel kind of good, right, Will?
01:05:26.000 That the kids are actually asking for Will Witt, right?
01:05:30.000 Like, that means you've done a thing.
01:05:32.000 It's very strange.
01:05:33.000 I mean, I'm sitting here reading Robin Hood and I'm thinking, wow, there are people who actually want to come hear me speak and do these kind of things.
01:05:39.000 It still blows my mind that this is what happens.
01:05:41.000 And so I feel truly blessed, you know, to be able to.
01:05:44.000 Do this with you guys and carry on Charlie's legacy and actually go and educate these people.
01:05:48.000 You know, one of the things that was one of the most important things that Charlie taught me about all this, I mean, as you can see, the books behind me is what I'm doing, is actually reading the material.
01:05:57.000 You know, I think that is so imperative.
01:06:00.000 And I think, you know, you were talking before about how I've been doing this for a long time.
01:06:02.000 I've been in this for 10 years.
01:06:03.000 I've had staying power, still relevant and growing and doing these things.
01:06:07.000 And it's because I know a lot of the material inside and out.
01:06:10.000 You know, I remember Charlie telling me that you need to be a better communist than the communists are so that you know their arguments.
01:06:15.000 And so I think going into these tour stops with the people that we have.
01:06:18.000 Going and speaking, being very prepared for these kinds of arguments, we can show those students that, man, you can fight against these powers of evil.
01:06:25.000 You can fight against the communists and the far leftists and the gender theory and all these things and actually win just by going and actually knowing the information.
01:06:33.000 Well said.
01:06:35.000 Well said, Will Witt, which is a lot to get out.
01:06:39.000 We're going to turn our attention to the Pick Up the Mic tour, which you're also going to be a part of, Will.
01:06:43.000 And I'm really excited about this.
01:06:45.000 It's been a huge effort.
01:06:46.000 You guys are doing great.
01:06:48.000 Let's get right into it.
01:06:50.000 SOP 14.
01:06:52.000 We don't do mediocre work, we try to raise the level of excellence.
01:06:56.000 Because we are constantly trying to push the conservative movement and the country the place it's never been before.
01:07:03.000 You are part of it.
01:07:04.000 It's something bigger than all of us.
01:07:08.000 Women who kill their own kids because they want to be the CEO of Ospaid, they're selfish, yeah.
01:07:15.000 I believe that illegal immigrants do harm in this country by making it a worse place to live for people who are born in this country who are American citizens.
01:07:23.000 We have to be the ones to equip our children and our grandchildren with the knowledge about some of the Evils and the danger of the world for the outside world gets to them.
01:07:32.000 What do you do with the people that violate those laws?
01:07:35.000 And the answer is deportation.
01:07:37.000 We compliment one another.
01:07:38.000 Men compliment women, women compliment men.
01:07:47.000 Pick up the mic.
01:07:48.000 Pick up the mic tour.
01:07:49.000 Will Witt's rising through the turning point stock market graphics.
01:07:55.000 Impressive.
01:07:57.000 Impressive.
01:07:58.000 All right.
01:07:58.000 So.
01:07:59.000 This is a very interesting program, right?
01:08:02.000 Because obviously, Charlie was the best at these events.
01:08:07.000 And, you know, we miss him every day for many reasons.
01:08:10.000 One of those is that this leaves a huge gap.
01:08:12.000 But what's been really impressive, and we did a whole training.
01:08:17.000 Will, you were here for it.
01:08:18.000 A lot of people came to campus.
01:08:19.000 There were, you know, dozens and dozens of people that want to be in this space, that want to go on campus and debate.
01:08:27.000 Like, we got flooded with people that want to do this.
01:08:30.000 Some are influencers.
01:08:31.000 Some are people like Will that are our contributors.
01:08:34.000 Some are students.
01:08:36.000 Some are chapter leaders.
01:08:37.000 And we did a whole training here on debate and understanding the left and understand logical fallacies and logical traps.
01:08:45.000 Tell us about how we're relaunching this program.
01:08:49.000 Well, this goes back to the conversations I had with Charlie.
01:08:54.000 It was there wasn't enough talent in the space, there weren't enough people doing what he was doing.
01:09:00.000 And that was a frustration of his, was that.
01:09:03.000 Yes, he was honored by the responsibility he was given, but he also wanted there to be more talent, more people that could articulate our viewpoints, that could take the battle to the front lines.
01:09:12.000 Because that's what it is.
01:09:13.000 When you're doing this pick up the mic, it is our on campus, on the quad debates with students behind a card table.
01:09:20.000 And that is frontline work.
01:09:21.000 Because when you do a night event, it's ticketed.
01:09:24.000 There's only a certain demographic that will come to a night event that's ticketed.
01:09:27.000 But when you go on to the quad, you're interfacing with the entire demographic of the student body, the apathetics.
01:09:34.000 Those that are engaged, the opposition, those that are supportive.
01:09:37.000 And so, this is our way to flood the zone to do what we did incredibly effectively with Charlie, but now with a variety of talent, whether it be students that are trying to, you know, they're stepping up since the last 910 to, you know, influencers like Will Way or Nick Fredis, those that have been doing this for a while to saying, hey, how do we flood the zone to be able to influence more students that are on the sidelines wanting to hear and participate in this that didn't have the chance or didn't think they'd have the chance when things changed?
01:10:04.000 And, you know, I mean, but we're doing like, A bunch of these, right?
01:10:08.000 So, with Charlie, obviously, it was this huge, you know, it was promoted, and there's thousands of people.
01:10:13.000 But these might, you might, we might have some of these that have like 12 people at them.
01:10:16.000 So, we were averaging about 20 to 25 a semester with Charlie, and that was a heavy lift.
01:10:21.000 We were averaging about 3,000 to 4,000 per stop.
01:10:25.000 Last spring, when we rolled this out as kind of a beta program.
01:10:28.000 Yeah, we were in the beta stage.
01:10:30.000 Yeah, yeah, it was a very early stage.
01:10:32.000 And we did about 50, 50 of them in the spring.
01:10:36.000 Well, as you saw on the screen, we plan to do 300 plus this fall.
01:10:40.000 Did you hear that?
01:10:41.000 So 300 plus, pick up the mic.
01:10:46.000 This is like the folding table, it's very grassroots.
01:10:51.000 You might have a lot of people that come around and stand around the table.
01:10:55.000 You might have, Like one at a time, and that's it.
01:10:58.000 But we're going to be rolling cameras for a while.
01:11:00.000 Charlie started that way.
01:11:01.000 Yes.
01:11:01.000 Charlie started that way.
01:11:02.000 And I love that you mentioned that he was very good at it, but he did feel there was a talent shortage.
01:11:07.000 And I think we talked about how Charlie always sought out mentorship, but another great thing about Charlie was he was not possessive or territorial about his talents.
01:11:16.000 That he really wanted there to be more people who could do exactly what he did on campus.
01:11:22.000 You're going to be doing it, aren't you?
01:11:23.000 They're throwing me out there.
01:11:24.000 They haven't told me where it is.
01:11:25.000 It's on the screen.
01:11:26.000 I need to find out where.
01:11:27.000 Throw up the graphic.
01:11:28.000 Let's see where you are on the stock chart.
01:11:29.000 I have like a very sour looking, like neutral look on my face.
01:11:33.000 Where's Blake's?
01:11:35.000 I'm on the far left of the second row, I believe.
01:11:38.000 Oh, so you got second row?
01:11:39.000 Not bad.
01:11:40.000 Oh, dear.
01:11:40.000 Not bad.
01:11:41.000 That was probably a courtesy.
01:11:42.000 Yeah, so I have some glower.
01:11:44.000 They decided to take my glowering expression rather than a smiling expression.
01:11:48.000 So, I mean, just some of the names here.
01:11:50.000 Obviously, we got Will Witt, who's with us right now, Shane Winnings, who did a great job, by the way, last.
01:11:55.000 He was one of the standouts.
01:11:57.000 He had some viral quotes.
01:11:57.000 Shane was one of the first.
01:11:59.000 Literally within weeks.
01:12:01.000 After Charlie's assassination, he stepped right on to the idea that they could start doing it on his own.
01:12:06.000 Yeah.
01:12:07.000 Yeah.
01:12:08.000 That's a good point.
01:12:09.000 Brandon Tatum, Lucas Miles, who runs TPSA Faith, Nick Freitas, of course, Kristen Hawkins, great.
01:12:14.000 Alex Clark, Blake, Chloe Cole, Jack Posobic, Joe Bob, Stephen Davis, Pastor John Amonchukwu, Anthony Watson, who just did a big high school event with us 600 kids at a high school.
01:12:25.000 Graham Allen, Bo Alford, who's been doing some great man on the street stuff, Alex Stein, Joshua Haynes.
01:12:31.000 Corey Sims, John Doyle, the moderate case, Matt Nuclear.
01:12:35.000 I mean, this is awesome.
01:12:37.000 This is an awesome group of people.
01:12:38.000 And by the way, many, many more because we've got like over 300 of these to do.
01:12:43.000 So this is a massive.
01:12:44.000 And people wonder, like, what are you going to do?
01:12:46.000 Like, how do you replace Charlie?
01:12:48.000 Well, this is a good point for you to come in.
01:12:50.000 People always say, well, how are you going to replace Charlie?
01:12:53.000 And I'm always like, that is the stupidest question ever.
01:12:55.000 Nobody's ever going to replace Charlie.
01:12:57.000 He's one of one.
01:12:58.000 He was a pure phenom and a modern day founding father.
01:13:04.000 But we all have to do our small part.
01:13:07.000 And maybe collectively, if we all pick up the slack where we can, that, you know, yeah, nobody's going to get, you know, 2 billion views on their own, right?
01:13:16.000 Like Charlie would do some semesters.
01:13:18.000 But you put 300 events together and you have enough clips, maybe you move the needle in a serious way.
01:13:24.000 Yeah, but I don't, you know, none of these people who are on that graphic are trying to replace Charlie.
01:13:28.000 But I think that everyone should be asking the question of how can we all live more like Charlie?
01:13:32.000 I mean, such a brave man, courageous man, faith filled man, tenacious.
01:13:36.000 I mean, all of these great qualities that he had.
01:13:38.000 How can we all live more?
01:13:39.000 To be more like that.
01:13:40.000 And I think doing these pick up the mic events and having all these people come out and actually ask questions, talk to people, do it in a compassionate way, like Charlie did, actually try and have conversations that lead to a good outcome.
01:13:50.000 I mean, when I'm out there on the campus and I have, like, there's a clip that you guys probably have seen of me talking to that one black girl on campus and we're talking about racism.
01:13:57.000 And at the end, she's agreeing with me.
01:13:59.000 I mean, she was mad at me, but she's agreeing with me on these different points that I'm making and that light bulb moment.
01:14:04.000 And you're just like, dang, like, this is why we do this.
01:14:07.000 You know, it's not because of some we're trying to get these views or be like Charlie or, you know, step into these shoes.
01:14:12.000 It's because We see the good work that happens on these campuses when someone's mind changes.
01:14:16.000 You know, one of the best pieces of advice that Dennis Prager ever gave me when you guys were talking about only a couple people at some of these things was to treat every speech like it's the most important speech of your life because you have no idea the people that you'll influence who are there.
01:14:27.000 You know, so the person who you talk to on the campus doing it, you have no idea where they'll go out, talk to other people, grassroots, change minds.
01:14:34.000 I mean, it's truly a beautiful thing to be able to be able to talk to these people.
01:14:38.000 So, TPUSAStudents.com, pick up the mic.
01:14:41.000 TPUSAStudents.com, pick up the mic for that, or just go to TPUSA.comslashTours.
01:14:47.000 If you want to get tickets to the college campus tour or get your students involved, your kid, your son or daughter, tpusa.comslash tours.
01:14:55.000 Check it out.
01:14:56.000 Thank you, Will Witt.
01:14:56.000 Thank you, Andrew Seifer.
01:14:58.000 That was awesome.
01:14:59.000 We'll see you guys tomorrow.
01:15:00.000 Thanks, guys.
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