The Charlie Kirk Show - Parents vs. the Perverts Party with Tina Descovich

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk show. Moms for Liberty is targeted by the federal government. 1.00

00:00:05.000 We talk about that and the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, HRC combined, and then we have Tina Descovich to respond exclusively in this episode all about the weaponization of government, all about the weaponization of nonprofits against conservative groups.

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00:00:46.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:48.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:50.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:53.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:57.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:58.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:59.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

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00:01:28.000 It's quite a news day.

00:01:29.000 Mike Pence is running for the presidency.

00:01:30.000 Chris Christie announced yesterday.

00:01:33.000 We will talk about that.

00:01:34.000 But first, where does all this pride stuff come from?

00:01:37.000 It feels like, I mean, it's so forced.

00:01:38.000 It is centralized.

00:01:40.000 You turn around, another corporation has changed their logo to a rainbow equivalent.

00:01:44.000 Is this coming from the grassroots?

00:01:46.000 And the answer is no.

00:01:47.000 There are a series of very well-funded 501c3 foundation-funded groups on the left that push all of this.

00:01:57.000 Some of them you might recognize, like the Anti-Defamation League or the Human Rights Campaign, or the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:02:05.000 Now, let's focus on the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:02:07.000 They are one of the best-funded organizations in the country.

00:02:12.000 They're unbelievably well-funded.

00:02:13.000 They're sitting on $700 million cash, almost a billion-dollar endowment.

00:02:19.000 Now, they were formed about 50 years ago to try to sue KKK groups.

00:02:24.000 But of course, as the trend has shown itself in other ways, there's a supply and demand problem with racism.

00:02:30.000 There's a supply and demand problem with hate.

00:02:32.000 This country is actually not that hateful.

00:02:34.000 We're a decent country. 0.98

00:02:35.000 Our people are largely virtuous and noble and don't go around on pickup trucks with Confederate flags and shotguns looking for black people to kill. 0.95

00:02:44.000 This doesn't really happen at all, actually.

00:02:46.000 The country has become racially decent over the last 20 or 30 years, largely in our behavior.

00:02:52.000 Now, of course, there's an outward war on white people, a war on Asians.

00:02:56.000 But as far as relations through our laws and our customs towards blacks, the country is in a far better place than it was 20 or 30, 40, 50, 60, or 70 years ago. 0.99

00:03:06.000 That is a fact.

00:03:07.000 But the Southern Poverty Law Center has a business model.

00:03:10.000 They are incentivized to peddle a lie.

00:03:13.000 In fact, they get more donations.

00:03:14.000 They get their salaries, their benefits, all the stuff that supports their lifestyle is based on this idea of rising extremism and rising hate.

00:03:26.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center, when you go to their website, they make it seem as if the same way the climate change alarmists, that there is an impending apocalypse of white nationalism and white extremism.

00:03:38.000 Now, I got to be careful without saying any names here, but five or six years ago, I was at a friend of mine's home.

00:03:45.000 And the friend I grew up with, still very close with him, and his parents are very, very liberal and very wealthy.

00:03:54.000 And on the kitchen table was a mailer from the Southern Poverty Law Center, a thick booklet, thick booklet of all the hate groups.

00:04:04.000 And I just asked one question.

00:04:05.000 I said, you know, what do you think of this?

00:04:06.000 They said, oh, hate is on the rise.

00:04:08.000 White supremacy is growing like wild.

00:04:12.000 I was just perplexed.

00:04:14.000 This stuff makes a real impact with upper middle class liberals, especially white liberals.

00:04:22.000 They buy into this stuff big time. 0.93

00:04:24.000 So the Southern Poverty Law Center needs to continue this falsehood that somehow there are militia, white nationalist groups coming out of the hinterlands to come lynch black people again.

00:04:37.000 But of course, they've expanded their scope. 0.53

00:04:39.000 They call it hate and extremism.

00:04:42.000 They've expanded that to LGBTQ issues because one of the ways the left works is through intersectional politics.

00:04:50.000 They need to find coalitional partners to work in symmetry and in harmony with one another because as America has become more racially decent, what is the Southern Poverty Law Center supposed to do with $700 million in cash?

00:05:04.000 By the way, the SPLC has come really hard about against a dear friend of ours, Jack Poseobic, trying to smear and slander him.

00:05:10.000 He's stronger than ever, but they really tried to take Jack Poseobic off the chessboard.

00:05:14.000 You can go to this website.

00:05:15.000 They lie about him.

00:05:16.000 It's all this nonsense.

00:05:17.000 The SPLC finds their targets with Alinskyite tactics to make it seem to an otherwise uninformed audience that there is this mass white supremacist movement bubbling up in the country.

00:05:31.000 So the SPLC puts out these documents.

00:05:34.000 Now you might say, oh, Charlie, these are just lists.

00:05:36.000 Who cares?

00:05:37.000 Why take them seriously?

00:05:39.000 Why mention it?

00:05:41.000 Because Visa, MasterCard, Bank of America, major institutions use the Southern Poverty Law Center list as justification to not do business with these groups, to debank them.

00:05:53.000 These lists are not insignificant.

00:05:55.000 Marxists love lists and they hate it when they get put on lists.

00:06:00.000 That's why they hated McCarthy.

00:06:02.000 They hate when they get exposed, but they use lists all the time.

00:06:05.000 Stalin used lists.

00:06:06.000 Mao used lists.

00:06:07.000 Paul Pott used lists.

00:06:09.000 Lenin used lists.

00:06:10.000 Lists of opponents.

00:06:12.000 It's that famous Seinfeld episode, though, when all of a sudden you start listing Marxists, they lose their mind.

00:06:19.000 It's a great one where Elaine tries to order, she tries to order Chinese food and she gets put on some sort of blacklist and she's dating a Trotskyite.

00:06:28.000 It's very, very well done.

00:06:30.000 Marxists love to use lists.

00:06:32.000 They hate when they're on lists.

00:06:33.000 But this list right here is one of the most just grotesque, disgusting, and dangerous things that I've seen.

00:06:43.000 Of all the groups they could mention, this proves the point.

00:06:46.000 This country is so decent.

00:06:48.000 This country really is not nearly as hateful as they would hope it to be that they have to find hate where it doesn't exist.

00:06:57.000 And what group have they now listed on their hate list?

00:07:01.000 No, it's not the Oath Keepers or the Aryan Brotherhood of Tuscaloosa or the Whites Will Rise Again of Fayetteville, Arkansas. 0.93

00:07:09.000 No, no, no, no.

00:07:10.000 It's Moms for Liberty. 1.00

00:07:14.000 That's right.

00:07:14.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center, which sits on $700 million and raises $100 million a year, has now listed Moms for Liberty as an extremist hate group on their hate watch.

00:07:31.000 They say, quote, Moms for Liberty is a far-right organization that self-identifies as part of the modern parental rights movement.

00:07:39.000 They oppose LGBTQ and racially inclusive school curriculum and advocated book bans.

00:07:45.000 Now, I have to lay down the law here.

00:07:48.000 I am losing patience big time with even some Republican donors rushing to the media.

00:07:54.000 Oh, I don't like book bans.

00:07:56.000 Listen, pal, it's called pornography.

00:07:58.000 This is not a book ban, okay?

00:08:00.000 You know who wants to ban books?

00:08:01.000 The Marxists want to ban books.

00:08:03.000 They don't want the Bible.

00:08:04.000 They don't want the Ten Commandments.

00:08:06.000 They don't want to kill a mockingbird.

00:08:07.000 They don't want the actual books that could teach virtue, goodness, and courage. 0.91

00:08:10.000 But the second that we take a stand and say, yeah, you know, a nine-year-old shouldn't learn about the intimate details of anal sex, they say that we all of a sudden want book bans.

00:08:20.000 I want you to listen to some of the examples. 0.68

00:08:22.000 And they try to say, oh, they want book bans.

00:08:23.000 They don't want pornography in front of eight-year-olds.

00:08:27.000 Somehow, this is wildly controversial to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:08:32.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center is now listing them so that other groups can marginalize them, smear them, slander them, spy on them.

00:08:41.000 Do not be surprised when the FBI, Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, uses these lists to then go spy on moms and dads.

00:08:52.000 By the way, who has ever held accountable for the fact that Merrick Garland sent out a memo to say to spy on moms and dads that show up at school board meetings?

00:09:00.000 This right here is a Soviet-style tactic to basically acknowledge and admit the Parents Party is one of the greatest, most robust threats to these perverts running our country.

00:09:11.000 And this is a tie-in, by the way.

00:09:12.000 I'll talk about what's happened with the great Armenians.

00:09:14.000 I love Armenians, by the way.

00:09:15.000 They're terrific people. 0.63

00:09:16.000 In Glendale, California, where these groomers, pedophile perverts were pushing forward LGBTQIA pup play pride in the shape of a Christian cross that incensed Armenian American families in LA and caused them to mobilize against the school boards. 0.80

00:09:33.000 This eventually led to a second violent clash against Antifa. 0.93

00:09:37.000 I just want to encourage everyone, please remain peaceful.

00:09:39.000 They would love nothing more than a drag Floyd or a Drag J6. 1.00

00:09:44.000 Ironically, yesterday was the 6th of June.

00:09:46.000 And so it was kind of a J6 of their own. 0.99

00:09:49.000 Any sort of violent confrontation interaction, even done in self-defense, will be used by the federal government to be able to use unconstitutional FISA powers that the FBI should not have to go after moms and dads.

00:09:49.000 Stay peaceful.

00:10:02.000 But this SPLC deserves further examination, and they're not alone.

00:10:05.000 There is a network of hundreds of millions of dollars of nonprofit money that is used to smear you, slander you, spy, not spy, but monitor everything that Turning Point USA does, that Moms Her Liberty does.

00:10:20.000 This is not some grassroots movement.

00:10:22.000 This is well-funded.

00:10:23.000 It's centralized.

00:10:23.000 It's synthetic.

00:10:24.000 This is the great reset globalist agenda to go after moms that want to make sure their kids aren't learning anal sex at age seven. 0.99

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00:11:11.000 So it's not just the Southern Poverty Law Center that's now targeting moms for liberty.

00:11:15.000 And boy, does that show that the family is a threat?

00:11:18.000 And the Ten Commandments, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

00:11:25.000 Only Ten Commandment with a promise and involves your nation.

00:11:28.000 They have to disrupt the bond between a parent and a child.

00:11:32.000 This is what Marxism seeks to do.

00:11:34.000 Have your kid stare at a screen.

00:11:35.000 Have your kid take substances they should.

00:11:38.000 Oh, your parents not as enlightened as we are, the academic, the influencer.

00:11:43.000 In fact, there are outright influencer campaigns to try to get parents turn, I mean, kids turning against their parents.

00:11:50.000 It's been happening for quite some time.

00:11:52.000 They need this.

00:11:53.000 It is the missing ingredient in the Marxist takeover of the country.

00:11:57.000 Strong families are a threat to woke tyrants.

00:12:02.000 They have to try to sexualize children, which makes them vulnerable, makes them easier to be controlled. 0.87

00:12:09.000 The more sexually innocent a 9, 10, or 11-year-old is, the less likely they are to be preyed on by these pedophiles or these groomers. 0.79

00:12:17.000 And the human rights campaign, which also raises tens of millions of dollars, is trying to convince you that the LGBTQ mafia, the rainbow-haired jihadis, are the ones that are actually under attack. 0.99

00:12:33.000 The human rights campaign, which is quite a name for an organization, right? Has come out and they say that there's a state of emergency for gays and lesbians and trans people in America.

00:12:49.000 Are you starting to realize a pattern?

00:12:51.000 COVID, emergency.

00:12:52.000 Climate change, emergency.

00:12:54.000 Gun deaths, emergency. 0.56

00:12:57.000 You pass a book ban against child pornography or pornography for kids, emergency.

00:13:02.000 What is not an emergency?

00:13:04.000 The more you study the left, the more you realize they must create panic.

00:13:11.000 Oh, if we don't raise the debt ceiling, emergency.

00:13:14.000 Of course, the actual emergencies are ignored, like our southern border, the fact that kids are killing themselves at record rates or 110,000 drug overdoses, but they want you to panic.

00:13:26.000 Panic makes tyrants more powerful.

00:13:31.000 People that are calm, collected, and focused on real things tend to actually be harder citizens to control by an illegitimate dictatorial government.

00:13:43.000 So the human rights campaign has now come out and they say that the gays in America are under a state of emergency, even though they control everything.

00:13:55.000 You control Hollywood, you control professional sports, you control the banking industry, you control basically every federal agency.

00:14:04.000 You control the schools, you control curriculum, you control the social media companies.

00:14:09.000 You have not, there's never been a time where there is where the alphabet group has had more occupation of power, and yet they're trying to convince you they're the victim because the only currency that has worked for the gay lobby is to convince you they are a victim. 0.98

00:14:29.000 They must convince you of that.

00:14:32.000 Remember, they do not believe in truth.

00:14:34.000 They do not believe in goodness.

00:14:36.000 They do not believe in beauty.

00:14:37.000 They only believe in power dynamics.

00:14:40.000 Us versus them. 1.00

00:14:42.000 So when we talk about the stuff we do not want to have in schools, what are we talking about? 0.99

00:14:46.000 Cut 71, teacher to kids going through great detail of how to perform anal sex. 0.98

00:14:52.000 Play Cut 71. 1.00

00:14:53.000 So you don't have to go inside the booty hole.

00:14:56.000 You can actually just push on the scene and that stimulates the prostate gland as well.

00:15:03.000 And that they apparently really like that. 0.98

00:15:06.000 But yeah, so that's why for male and male, anal sex is still very pleasurable because of the fact that it hits the prostate and there's a lot of nerve endings in your booty as well. 0.99

00:15:20.000 Now, some of you are going to get fired up. 0.99

00:15:22.000 You're going to email me freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:15:24.000 I don't want to hear that.

00:15:25.000 I don't want to hear that.

00:15:26.000 Oh, really?

00:15:26.000 That's what's happening in your local school.

00:15:28.000 Are you doing anything about it?

00:15:29.000 Are you showing up to school board meetings?

00:15:30.000 Are you demanding your local state legislator defunds these schools? 0.99

00:15:33.000 If that offended you enough to email me that you don't want to hear graphically about anal sex, then do something about it to remove the schools before complaining about it. 0.96

00:15:42.000 We always air these clips. 0.98

00:15:43.000 You say, Charlie, it's terrible.

00:15:45.000 It's this.

00:15:45.000 I don't like it.

00:15:46.000 It's terrible.

00:15:47.000 Oh, I agree.

00:15:48.000 But this is not some sort of just HBO, paywall protected, weird thing that is being, you know, on the fringe of the internet.

00:15:57.000 This is in our schools.

00:15:59.000 This is curriculum.

00:16:01.000 And that is what the Southern Poverty Law Center says is education.

00:16:05.000 The SPLC and the Human Rights Campaign is going to the wall.

00:16:09.000 They are saying, hey, if you oppose the graphic teaching of those behaviors and those actions for nine-year-olds, you're a book banner.

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00:17:25.000 Oh, there is a, there is a deliberate campaign to go after your children.

00:17:29.000 Do you have a grandkid that uses Instagram?

00:17:33.000 Wall Street Journal, Instagram connects vast pedophile network.

00:17:37.000 The meta-unit systems for fostering communities have guided users to child sex content.

00:17:42.000 Company says it's improving its internal controls.

00:17:47.000 Very incriminating piece here in the Wall Street Journal.

00:17:51.000 Talking about how Instagram is not really doing their part.

00:17:53.000 You know what Instagram is doing their part, though?

00:17:55.000 Instagram has a whole unit that is worried that Charlie Kirk might be saying something that is not regime approved, fact-checked.

00:18:08.000 Instagram has a whole department that within minutes comes into an Instagram post of ours.

00:18:15.000 For example, when we posted the story about Jamie Foxx last week and we even blacked out part of the headline, Instagram came in with a missing context fact check.

00:18:28.000 So Instagram has a whole, they have shock troops to make sure that pages like mine, and we have a very popular Instagram page, 2.2 million followers, I think one of the biggest in the conservative movement, praise God.

00:18:40.000 They have shock troops to make sure that I am not saying anything that is not approved by the regime.

00:18:45.000 But Instagram seems rather indifferent towards pedophiles creating a network.

00:18:50.000 Again, this is not some sort of fringe Reddit post.

00:18:53.000 This is the Wall Street Journal that is talking about how pedophiles love Instagram.

00:19:02.000 There are three types of people.

00:19:03.000 There are infants, there are predators, and the protectors of infants.

00:19:08.000 Predators right now are being allowed to go after our kids in an unprecedented way.

00:19:13.000 And if you dare try to interrupt the predatory behavior, they say that you're anti-LGBT or that you are insensitive.

00:19:21.000 One of the groups that is pushing this is the Human Rights Campaign.

00:19:25.000 Again, a very well-funded 501c3 organization.

00:19:31.000 Very well-funded.

00:19:32.000 They have also C4.

00:19:33.000 Human Rights Campaign is now issued a state of emergency.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, this is not a joke.

00:19:38.000 Acting as if there's a hurricane or that there's some sort of impending tornado or that we're being invaded by the Cubans or something.

00:19:47.000 This is the threshold.

00:19:48.000 By the way, remember, the NAACP has done the exact same thing two weeks ago: state of emergency to trial to Florida.

00:19:56.000 Why?

00:19:56.000 Because you can't teach critical race theory.

00:19:58.000 Black people aren't safe, even though the head of the NAACP lives in Tampa, Florida.

00:20:04.000 So the human rights campaign has put out this article: state of emergency declared for LGBTQ people. 0.73

00:20:11.000 This is what they say.

00:20:13.000 They say that this is the worst year on record for LGBTQ.

00:20:19.000 They say that the legislative session included more than 525 bills introduced, 220 of them targeted transgender people.

00:20:26.000 Hold on a second, targeting transgender people. 1.00

00:20:28.000 Some of these bills are super vanilla.

00:20:31.000 For example, that men should not be able to compete in female sports.

00:20:36.000 Pretty simple. 1.00

00:20:38.000 Or that we shouldn't have graphic sexual teaching in front of elementary school kids. 0.83

00:20:43.000 Pretty simple. 1.00

00:20:44.000 But they need to have an emergency.

00:20:47.000 Emergencies create the preconditions for otherwise irrelevant organizations or low-talent hacks or tyrants to be able to gain more power.

00:21:03.000 The human rights campaign would never come out and say, you know what?

00:21:09.000 The country's pretty decent.

00:21:11.000 This trans thing is out of control. 1.00

00:21:13.000 No, they need to have you in a state of panic.

00:21:15.000 And so, and the media is happy to do this.

00:21:17.000 But guess what?

00:21:18.000 The HRC says that they're in a state of emergency.

00:21:20.000 Look at all these corporate partners.

00:21:22.000 Are LGBTQ people really under attack when you have this list of corporate partners, the most powerful $100 billion corporations that are pumping you money?

00:21:34.000 Lyft, Amazon, UPS, Disney, Northrop Grumman, Pfizer, Neiman Marcus, Alaska Airlines, Nike, which I'll get to in a second.

00:21:45.000 PayPal, Nordstrom, Capital One, Goldman Sachs.

00:21:49.000 Is this how are oppressed and marginalized groups able to get wire transfers from a corporate oligarchy?

00:21:56.000 And make no mistake, this is exactly why the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat Party has been muted the last three to four years.

00:22:08.000 Bernie Sanders was talking about a corporate oligarchy.

00:22:10.000 We don't like billionaires.

00:22:11.000 Do you notice there's not a lot of chatter about that anymore on the Democrat side?

00:22:15.000 Because remember, all they care about is power dynamics.

00:22:18.000 And so Bernie Sanders and AOC, they're enjoying the corporate flow of money as long as it keeps them in power.

00:22:27.000 And these corporations, because they're secular and soulless, they're willing to do a deal with the Democrats as long as they get their corporate favors, their crony handouts, their special cutouts.

00:22:41.000 And the thing that they can agree on is LGBTQ and race and then immigration.

00:22:48.000 But LGBTQ and race.

00:22:50.000 So you go through this list, Amazon, American Airlines, Google, Morgan Stanley, Microsoft.

00:22:55.000 They all want to be able to post record profits, something that should, by the way, be at odds with the base of the Democrat Party, the base of the Democrat Party that yammers on about, oh, people are too rich.

00:23:08.000 You don't really hear that.

00:23:09.000 They've turned down the volume and basically pressed the mute button on all clamoring, all sort of complaints about rich people running society.

00:23:18.000 You remember when Bernie Sanders, we've got to get rid of the billionaires?

00:23:22.000 They don't hear that anymore.

00:23:23.000 It's all race and LGBT. 1.00

00:23:26.000 Race, LGBT. 0.89

00:23:28.000 Because there's this been very private but obvious alliance between the Democrat Party and corporate America to just focus on the social smokescreen, not the actual stuff.

00:23:42.000 That's why RFK's candidacy is such a danger.

00:23:44.000 It's because RFK is actually talking about the destruction of the middle class, purchasing power being eroded, stuff that I resonate with, that all people should resonate with.

00:23:53.000 So let's focus on Nike.

00:23:55.000 So Nike is hosting Dr. Blair Peters.

00:23:58.000 Again, Nike is a Chinese Communist Party apparel company founded in Eugene, Oregon, that has become so wildly activistically liberal and left-wing, it's hard to even actually process it.

00:24:13.000 So Nike is hosting Dr. Plair Peters, who in a video openly admits to doing irreversible sex changes on minor girls.

00:24:22.000 Something that is so grotesque and awful that to his great credit, Elon Musk is now coming out and saying that we should ban child sex surgeries.

00:24:33.000 And Elon Musk, thank you for your moral courage on this.

00:24:37.000 We need more elites to speak out against the medieval practice that one day will be looked at like we once did lobotomies.

00:24:45.000 Play cut 63 of who Nike is platforming and hosting for Pride Month.

00:24:50.000 I'm Blair Peters.

00:24:51.000 I use he, they pronouns. 0.99

00:24:52.000 I'm a plastic and reconstructive surgeon at OHSU, and I specialize in gender affirming and peripheral nerve surgery.

00:24:58.000 I describe gender affirming surgery as using surgery to help someone physically actualize their internal sense of self.

00:25:06.000 So I view surgery as changing something that makes someone feel dysphoric, to make them feel euphoric and better and more comfortable in their own body.

00:25:14.000 You know, when someone sees their vulva for the first time and you can see that you've just lifted this huge burden off of them completely.

00:25:23.000 And to be able to sort of bond with my patients in that way and share that space is really amazing.

00:25:31.000 I couldn't imagine feeling more fulfilled.

00:25:35.000 What is the company that's doing that?

00:25:36.000 What is that logo?

00:25:38.000 Well, I didn't catch the logo.

00:25:40.000 It's probably Merck or Pfizer or AstraZeneca.

00:25:43.000 That's who Nike is platforming.

00:25:45.000 That pink-haired medieval witch doctor. 0.53

00:25:48.000 What is, I can't see that.

00:25:50.000 I don't know what that is.

00:25:52.000 I don't even know.

00:25:52.000 What is that?

00:25:53.000 Is that, someone can tell me about OHSU.

00:25:56.000 This medieval witch doctor who is experimenting on children. 0.98

00:26:01.000 Oh, I want people.

00:26:02.000 It's the Oregon Health Science University.

00:26:04.000 Ah, okay.

00:26:05.000 It's a public university in Portland.

00:26:07.000 Nike is platforming this freak who goes after children.

00:26:12.000 It's hard to put into words to somebody that is unwilling to embrace the truth how cruel and punishing it is to tell a 12-year-old that you can feel better about yourself if I forcibly remove your breasts and put you on benzodiazepines, Zoloft, Prozac, and SSRIs.

00:26:31.000 Nike not only is neutral on it, they are wildly embracing it.

00:26:37.000 Pride Month, I always never was a fan of.

00:26:40.000 It's always been awful.

00:26:41.000 But this has now morphed into a nightmare hellscape.

00:26:45.000 I remember when gay marriage was made the law of the land, never should have happened, by the way, and that Supreme Court decision should be overturned.

00:26:55.000 It's a terrible, terrible decision.

00:26:57.000 It's unconstitutional.

00:26:59.000 It's Anthony Kennedy at his worst.

00:27:02.000 Obergefell, that's right.

00:27:06.000 We were told by, and by the way, I bought into this lie. 0.99

00:27:10.000 I fully acknowledge the error. 0.93

00:27:11.000 You can go back and find video after video of my error, but people that don't grow, I think, are intellectual cowards.

00:27:18.000 So I acknowledge I didn't see it at the time.

00:27:19.000 I bought into it, but I wasn't as seasoned in this.

00:27:24.000 I bought into the lie that this would become a non-issue.

00:27:29.000 I bought into the false premise that, okay, gay marriage, law of the land, we can just stop talking about it. 1.00

00:27:38.000 That they're not going to go after children.

00:27:41.000 This is not going to be like flags everywhere.

00:27:44.000 Live and let live, man.

00:27:46.000 It's not for me.

00:27:46.000 And that was one of the great career missteps that I've made in my public commentary.

00:27:52.000 And I've done plenty to explain how it came from.

00:27:54.000 And boy, I think you have to correct it when it's there.

00:27:56.000 But the point is, how many of the intellectual leaders, and I think people in the audience, you probably felt the same way.

00:28:02.000 Like, okay, Oberga fell, law of the land.

00:28:05.000 I don't like the fact that Obama lit the entire White House up in a rainbow. 0.97

00:28:08.000 That's kind of disgusting and awful.

00:28:09.000 But now we can move on to talk about tax policy.

00:28:12.000 And in fact, it's been the opposite.

00:28:14.000 It's only been an accelerant of this talk, of this now going after children.

00:28:18.000 It's about tolerance, acceptance, celebration, and then participation, the Matt Walsh sequence of events.

00:28:26.000 And I'll say this again for media matters.

00:28:28.000 Oberga fell needs to be repealed.

00:28:31.000 Not even about the gay marriage part of it, which obviously I have strong opinions on. 0.94

00:28:35.000 It might be the worst Supreme Court decision in the last 100 years in terms of just making up total garbage that's not in the Constitution at all. 0.92

00:28:44.000 It is absolute, just fictitious.

00:28:50.000 It takes an artistic license to the Constitution that simply doesn't exist.

00:28:55.000 Because of how powerful the gay lobby was, we got to get this done. 1.00

00:28:58.000 We got to this done.

00:28:59.000 Well, you got it.

00:28:59.000 And then you act as if you're more oppressed than ever before.

00:29:01.000 Isn't that interesting how that works?

00:29:03.000 Because there's no appeasing a group of people that have made their identity as a victim.

00:29:09.000 If they ever became a victor, they might actually have to take responsibility for their life.

00:29:14.000 The permanent identity as a victim is more fundamental to them than ever actually having lives rooted in flourishing or prosperity.

00:29:27.000 Joining us now, someone who's making a lot of headlines, the head of Moms for Liberty.

00:29:34.000 And let me just say before we get started, Moms for Liberty does amazing work.

00:29:38.000 The parents movement in America is extremely important.

00:29:43.000 And you have this Southern Poverty Law Center that is going after moms.

00:29:48.000 Tina Deskovich joins us. 1.00

00:29:50.000 Tina, welcome to the program.

00:29:52.000 What is your response to the Southern Poverty Law Center putting you and your organization on the hate watch list?

00:30:00.000 Honestly, Charlie, it is a bunch of nonsense for them to take moms across the country that have just been getting involved in school board elections and getting involved in school board meetings and trying to impact school board policy for the first time in decades and to put us on a list with true terrorists and true people that the first picture when you go to their website on the list of these people is some person with Nazi flags doing a high Hitler sign.

00:30:27.000 And they want to place my picture right next to this gentleman for the work that our moms are doing across the country.

00:30:32.000 It's utter nonsense.

00:30:34.000 Yeah, so let's dive into this.

00:30:36.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center, let me ask you, did they contact you before they put together this list?

00:30:43.000 No, they've never contacted me or Tiffany, my co-founder.

00:30:46.000 So you've had no communication with them whatsoever, never an opportunity to explain yourself.

00:30:52.000 So that's important.

00:30:54.000 So here you are on this list that will then be used to try to lobby you against Visa and MasterCard debanking.

00:31:01.000 Many financial institutions use this list as a way to blacklist certain organizations.

00:31:08.000 They say this about Moms for Liberty.

00:31:11.000 They say that you're a far-right organization that self-identifies as part of the modern parental rights movement.

00:31:17.000 The group grew out of opposition to public health regulations for COVID-19, which lockdowns, okay, opposing LGBTQ plus and racially inclusive school curriculum and has advocated book bans.

00:31:30.000 Tina, your response.

00:31:32.000 We'd reject those claims.

00:31:34.000 Some of the things they said, I love some of your tweets today because some of the things they said are factual about us.

00:31:40.000 And we will argue with them about if it's hateful to want to make sure that parents are involved in their child's education or in the decisions being made if a child wants to change their name or their gender or use the restroom of the opposite sex or sleep in an overnight field trip with the opposite sex.

00:31:57.000 If you want to call me hateful as a mom because I want to make that decision for my child, not some principal or vice principal or counselor, then we can have that discussion.

00:32:08.000 But some of the things on that list are just untrue.

00:32:11.000 Some of the things they have said about us are factually inaccurate.

00:32:14.000 What we have found over the last two and a half years is someone in the media, sometimes some radical far-left media like Vice or Media Matters, will literally make stuff up about us, publish it, and then mainstream media picks it up like it's fact.

00:32:28.000 No one asks us.

00:32:29.000 No one checks with us.

00:32:30.000 No one looks for facts whatsoever.

00:32:32.000 You know, Charlie, we can even look at the PEN America.

00:32:35.000 I don't know if you followed that story.

00:32:36.000 PEN America came out and said that more books were banned in America last year than ever in the history of America.

00:32:43.000 And they used the term banning and they attributed like 90% of them they said was Moms for Liberty's fault.

00:32:49.000 Heritage Foundation went behind them and took every book that they said was banned and where it was banned and they proved them wrong.

00:32:56.000 They said, this book that you said is banned is sitting on the shelves in this school right now.

00:33:01.000 There's six copies.

00:33:02.000 What are you saying?

00:33:03.000 Mainstream media picked up that PEN America study.

00:33:06.000 Everyone, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, they all ran stories on it and said that that was fact, slandering us, slashing us, and it was all untrue.

00:33:16.000 And so are you considering any legal action here?

00:33:20.000 Is there anything you could consider smear or slander?

00:33:23.000 I mean, for example, they say that you are an extremist group because you believe in, quote, I raise my children, the government does not.

00:33:30.000 We do not co-parent with the government.

00:33:32.000 That is what considered to be hate speech and extremist talk.

00:33:35.000 Charlie, did you just hear what you said?

00:33:38.000 I raise my children, not the government.

00:33:41.000 Since when is that extremism in America or anywhere in the world for that matter?

00:33:46.000 These are fundamental rights that God has given us.

00:33:49.000 He has blessed us with our children.

00:33:51.000 It is our right, our natural right from God to raise these children, to direct their education, their medical care, their religious upbringing, their moral upbringing.

00:33:59.000 The government of the United States of America has been interjecting itself for decades.

00:34:03.000 And I will say some of that is because parents have been negligent.

00:34:07.000 Parents have abdicated some of their responsibilities to public schools.

00:34:11.000 But we, as an organization, decided two and a half years ago that we were going to stand up to that and try to solve this problem.

00:34:17.000 And look at the pushback, the slander from the Biden administration, from the DOJ, from the NSBA, and now the Southern Poverty Legal Center, if I got their name right.

00:34:29.000 Yeah, the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:34:31.000 The other one they say here is you look at the National Teachers Union met and drafted a proposal to replace the word mother with birthing person. 0.79

00:34:40.000 This is insane and insulting to every mom in America.

00:34:43.000 That puts you on the hate list.

00:34:44.000 Is that not insulting to every mom in America?

00:34:47.000 I think what we've been speaking is truth.

00:34:49.000 And these are the things I was talking to you about when I said that some of the statements that they quoted that are hateful.

00:34:56.000 When in the history of time has a statement like that been hateful?

00:35:00.000 We are losing our minds as a country if this is the direction we want to go.

00:35:04.000 It really is.

00:35:05.000 So tell us about the upcoming events you have and the things that you are doing that one of the reasons why they're pushing back so hard against you.

00:35:14.000 Yeah, so we have a national summit every year.

00:35:17.000 We do one big event a year.

00:35:18.000 Last year it was in Tampa.

00:35:19.000 This year it's in Philadelphia.

00:35:21.000 There have been some questions of why Philadelphia.

00:35:24.000 I specifically chose Philadelphia because that's where Liberty was born in the United States.

00:35:28.000 You know, the Declaration was drafted there.

00:35:30.000 There's Independence Hall is there, the Liberty Bell.

00:35:33.000 So we are going to go and really absorb, appreciate the history and the rich culture that's there.

00:35:38.000 And we're not seeding any ground in America.

00:35:40.000 We're not going to stay in the safe place in the safe cities.

00:35:42.000 We are going.

00:35:43.000 to Philadelphia.

00:35:45.000 And it turns out presidential candidates agree with us.

00:35:48.000 We invited them all, including President Biden, who we have not heard from, by the way.

00:35:52.000 But President Trump is going to be a keynote speaker.

00:35:54.000 Governor Ron DeSantis is coming.

00:35:56.000 Ambassador Nikki Haley is coming.

00:35:59.000 Vivek Ramaswamy is coming.

00:36:01.000 It's still out on Tim Scott if he's going to join us.

00:36:04.000 RFK Jr., we'd love to have.

00:36:06.000 He has not responded yet.

00:36:07.000 So we are building a four-day event that is packed full of training how to run for school board, training how to support a candidate for school board, training how to be a school board activist.

00:36:17.000 There's lots of in-depth history.

00:36:20.000 The Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts is going to do a full hour on George Washington in a breakout session.

00:36:25.000 There's going to be so much goodness and richness.

00:36:27.000 We are very excited.

00:36:28.000 So are you seeing an increase of support and attention since the Southern Poverty Law Center is comparing you to Timothy McVeigh?

00:36:36.000 That is a great question, Charlie.

00:36:38.000 We've had a donor reach out and offer $300,000.

00:36:42.000 They will match up to $300,000 for every donation that comes in so that we can fight back against the Southern Poverty Law Center because they do not like that they are trying to silence parents.

00:36:53.000 They see the work our organization is doing.

00:36:55.000 We are joyful warriors at Moms for Liberty.

00:36:58.000 We will fight like heck, but we do it with a smile on our face.

00:37:00.000 So we encourage everyone to go to our website, momsforliberty.org.

00:37:04.000 If our website is down, it's because for the last two weeks, we have been under global attack, like government-level attacks on our website.

00:37:13.000 We're struggling to keep it up, but we are working diligently to keep it up.

00:37:17.000 So we've also set up a text 53445, the word donate, if you can't get through on the website.

00:37:24.000 You know, the left finds the parents movement to be a special threat to the perverts party and to the grooming that they are doing.

00:37:32.000 And moms rising up and building these coalitions, this is a huge, this is a huge deal.

00:37:39.000 You know, Tina, tell us more about your story here.

00:37:43.000 You know, this all started out of necessity and love of your kids.

00:37:47.000 And now, how many chapters do you have?

00:37:49.000 Tell us more about the genesis of this and why SPLC considers you to be such a threat.

00:37:54.000 I love to talk about our organization.

00:37:56.000 So we started January 1st, 2021.

00:37:59.000 We were about two and a half years old.

00:38:00.000 Tiffany Justice, my co-founder and I are both former school board members here in Florida.

00:38:04.000 We served from 2016 to 2020.

00:38:06.000 We're both moms.

00:38:07.000 Our kids are in public schools.

00:38:10.000 As we were coming off the school boards, we like to say when we were serving that we saw behind the education curtain, we saw the problems with public education where it was failing students, but we also saw how they were, as a district, at school districts, they really were starting to step on parental rights left and right.

00:38:26.000 2020 happened.

00:38:27.000 All of America by the end of 2020 saw what school districts were doing.

00:38:31.000 They were shutting off microphones, locking doors, shutting down meetings, canceling meetings so parents couldn't speak.

00:38:37.000 And then, you know, parents were seeing what was being streamed into their living rooms and dining rooms as their kids were doing work.

00:38:43.000 And so we kind of looked at what was going on around the country and we watched these parents just struggling to attempt to connect with their school districts and impact change.

00:38:53.000 And so we launched Moms for Liberty.

00:38:55.000 We organize into chapters by county.

00:38:57.000 Our goal is to have 3,000 chapters by the end of this and a Moms for Liberty member at every school board meeting from now to the end of time.

00:39:04.000 We're laser focused on parental rights and public education.

00:39:09.000 And just so you know, two and a half years in, we are now at almost 300 chapters.

00:39:13.000 So that's 300 counties in the country that have a Moms for Liberty chapter.

00:39:17.000 We're in 45 states and we're approaching 120,000.

00:39:21.000 These are active members.

00:39:23.000 These are not just someone on our email list.

00:39:24.000 These are members that are showing up to monthly meetings and doing book reviews, textbook reviews.

00:39:29.000 They're doing the work.

00:39:30.000 Doing the work.

00:39:31.000 I want to read some of the quote-unquote books that have been banned. 0.87

00:39:35.000 Quote, this book is gay. 0.94

00:39:37.000 Tricks. 0.98

00:39:38.000 Lawnboy, The Hate You Give, Flamer, All Boys Aren't Blue, or Gender Queer, a Memoir. 1.00

00:39:45.000 This stuff is pornographic LGBT garbage that is being really put on kids. 0.99

00:39:53.000 And I see the parents movement as ascendant and growing and multiplying. 0.99

00:39:59.000 Just remind our audience one more time, Tina, how people can support you, your website, and your national conference.

00:40:04.000 Momsforliberty.org is our website.

00:40:07.000 They can text if they want to donate.

00:40:09.000 The word donate to 53445.

00:40:12.000 Very good.

00:40:12.000 Tina, thank you so much.

00:40:14.000 And come again soon.

00:40:15.000 We really appreciate it.

00:40:16.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:40:17.000 I appreciate the time.

00:40:20.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:40:21.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:40:25.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:40:29.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 07, 2023

Parents vs. the Perverts Party with Tina Descovich

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