The Charlie Kirk Show - December 22, 2023


Prison, Reform School, The Grave...Or Christ: Ben Carson's Faith Journey, LIVE at Amfest

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Learn English with Dr. Ben Carson. Dr. Carson is a pediatric neuropsychologist, pediatric neurosurgeon, and pediatric infectious disease physician who served as a pediatrician in the early days of his medical career. He is now the President of the Ben Carson Foundation, an organization dedicated to fighting pediatric brain disease and childhood trauma.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, live from AmericaFest, my conversation with Dr. Ben Carson.
00:00:04.000 It's amazing.
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00:00:14.000 I think you'll enjoy it.
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00:00:32.000 I think people have a lot in common because they're all people.
00:00:34.000 I really believe that.
00:00:35.000 I know you think I'm like playing Dr. Seuss or something, but I really believe that.
00:00:39.000 I think the race stuff is totally overblown to this day.
00:00:43.000 And I've heard I'm very hated. 0.98
00:00:46.000 I've never one time had any black person come up to me like, you're a racist. 0.85
00:00:50.000 I hear all the time I'm a racist, which I'm not.
00:00:52.000 I'd admit it if I was.
00:00:54.000 I'm not. 0.74
00:00:55.000 The only people who ever call me racist are like angry 49-year-old white female lawyers.
00:01:00.000 They're super convinced I'm a racist. 0.96
00:01:01.000 Every black person I ever meets, like, hey, man. 1.00
00:01:04.000 So I'm serious.
00:01:06.000 I mean, maybe, I don't know, but I can only tell you my own experience.
00:01:09.000 And I think most people don't spend all day mad about race.
00:01:12.000 And you don't want to live in a country where they do, trust me, at all.
00:01:16.000 So we have a lot in common, and I hope that people realize that before it's too late.
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00:01:39.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:41.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:01:43.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:47.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:50.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:51.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:52.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:02:00.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:02:22.000 Dr. Carson, everybody.
00:02:28.000 Dr. Carson, I know I speak for America Fest and Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:02:33.000 Thank you for your service to this great country.
00:02:35.000 You are an American hero.
00:02:37.000 Well, right back at you because, you know, you are the example of somebody who can be very successful, who doesn't have to be poisoned in one of these Ivy League schools.
00:02:49.000 Thank you.
00:02:49.000 Thank you.
00:02:50.000 So Dr. Carson, there's so much happening in the country right now.
00:02:53.000 I want to start about, I'll start talking first about your commitment to faith, putting God first.
00:03:00.000 Jesus is the most important thing in your life, in my life.
00:03:03.000 Talk about that.
00:03:05.000 Well, you know, I grew up in a household of faith, but I really didn't understand it until I was 14 years old when I tried to stab someone.
00:03:19.000 And, you know, the Lord arranged things so that they had a big metal belt buckle on under their clothing.
00:03:27.000 And the knife struck that and broke.
00:03:29.000 And they were terrified.
00:03:31.000 I was more terrified than they were, thinking I was trying to kill somebody over nothing.
00:03:35.000 And, you know, I went to my bathroom.
00:03:39.000 And I just started thinking about my life.
00:03:42.000 I had turned things around academically by that time because I had been a horrible, horrible student.
00:03:48.000 I had been the worst student imaginable.
00:03:51.000 But, you know, got things turned around academically.
00:03:54.000 But I realized I would never realize my dream of becoming a doctor with a temper like that.
00:03:59.000 I would end up in jail, reform school, or the grave.
00:04:03.000 And none of those appealed to me.
00:04:05.000 So I just prayed.
00:04:07.000 I said, Lord, you've got to show me the way.
00:04:10.000 And there was a Bible there, and I picked it up.
00:04:12.000 And there are all these verses about anger.
00:04:16.000 You know, like Proverbs 19, 19, there's no point getting an angry man out of trouble because he's just going to get back into it.
00:04:22.000 Or Proverbs 16, 32, my dear is the man who controls his temper than the man who can conquer a city. 0.96
00:04:29.000 And then there were all these verses about fools. 0.96
00:04:32.000 And it seemed like they were all written about me. 0.70
00:04:34.000 And, you know, and then I just started praying, and it came to me that the reason I was angry so much is because I was selfish.
00:04:45.000 It was always about me, my, and I. Somebody did this to me.
00:04:49.000 They took my thing.
00:04:50.000 They're in my space.
00:04:52.000 I want this.
00:04:53.000 And I said, if you can learn how to step outside of the center of the circle and let it be about somebody else, you won't be angry anymore.
00:05:01.000 That was my last great outburst.
00:05:04.000 But I came that day to accept God not only as my heavenly father, but as my earthly father too.
00:05:11.000 Just be somebody that I could consult with.
00:05:14.000 Now, Dr. Carson, I'll be honest, I can't imagine you getting upset.
00:05:18.000 You are so steady.
00:05:23.000 That really is the transformative power of Jesus Christ.
00:05:26.000 If you're trying to tell me you used to be a hothead, that's exactly right.
00:05:29.000 That's what he can do.
00:05:30.000 He can actually change you to the point that people can't even believe that was the way you were.
00:05:36.000 I can't believe that.
00:05:38.000 And I mean, Dr. Carson, I just want to say, for those of you that don't know, Dr. Carson's medical career is one of the most impressive in the history of medicine.
00:05:47.000 The lives, it's just.
00:05:49.000 Gifted hands.
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00:05:55.000 You have saved so many lives and just incredible.
00:05:57.000 But Dr. Carson, you were loved by the media and loved by people until you started to speak out politically.
00:06:04.000 Of course, it was the famous prayer breakfast where you, let's just say, said a few things.
00:06:10.000 And they weren't really that controversial.
00:06:12.000 No, they were.
00:06:13.000 That you weren't supposed to do what you did.
00:06:15.000 And then you ran for president and you did it so honorably.
00:06:19.000 And I mean, I wish more politicians had the ethics of Ben Carson.
00:06:23.000 Don't you?
00:06:24.000 Oh, my goodness.
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00:08:24.000 And well, I'm not a politician, though.
00:08:29.000 Well, I would never insult you like that.
00:08:31.000 Thank you.
00:08:32.000 Because politicians do what's politically expedient.
00:08:36.000 And I think it's time that we have people do what's right and just to recognize that we need to have people in the political sphere who realize that they work for the people.
00:08:49.000 The people don't work for them.
00:08:51.000 That's right.
00:08:53.000 And so, Dr. Carson, one of the things I want to ask you about, I know you're addressing this with American Cornerstone, is education.
00:09:02.000 Yes.
00:09:03.000 I am bombarded when I visit these college campuses and I'm told America is systemically racist. 0.94
00:09:08.000 America is systemically racist.
00:09:10.000 How do you respond to that and tell our audience about the important work you're doing at American Cornerstone?
00:09:15.000 Well, you know, I get tired of hearing people beat down on our country and say how unfair we are to other people.
00:09:23.000 You know, the fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter where your ancestors came from.
00:09:29.000 They came from England, they came from France, they came from Africa, they came from Sweden, they came from India.
00:09:35.000 You're better off here than you would be where they came from. 1.00
00:09:42.000 And, you know, there was a time in our history where racism was rampant.
00:09:50.000 Okay, but in my lifetime, the time that I've been alive, it has changed dramatically.
00:09:56.000 When I was six years old, I went to Chattanooga, Tennessee, and I saw signs, whites only, colors only, and they explained to me what this was all about.
00:10:06.000 In the same lifetime, we have black admirals and generals and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and heads of foundations and university presidents.
00:10:17.000 And we've had a president of the United States and a vice president, although you don't see her.
00:10:24.000 So, I mean, you know, that really represents a very significant change in a short period of time.
00:10:32.000 And if our country was all that bad, why are these people trying to get in it?
00:10:36.000 And when they get here, wouldn't they call their relatives and say, don't come here, this is a horrible place?
00:10:42.000 This is not what we're seeing.
00:10:43.000 We're seeing they're still flooding in in record numbers.
00:10:47.000 And that tells you that we have something that is worth fighting for and something that's worth preserving.
00:10:54.000 Talk about American corporations.
00:10:58.000 Well, you know, at the end of the Trump administration, I said, I can retire finally, because I had failed retirement the first time.
00:11:09.000 But, you know, not too many weeks after the election, seeing the direction of the country, I realized that I would have no fun at all playing golf or cruising around the world while watching my country go down the tubes.
00:11:25.000 I mean, this country has been very good to me.
00:11:28.000 You know, my American dream was to be a doctor.
00:11:33.000 And some people would have thought that would be a difficult thing to do from where I came from.
00:11:38.000 But, you know, as a child, I love medicine, anything about medicine.
00:11:44.000 Dr. Kildare, Dr. Casey, all those stories on television.
00:11:48.000 I even like going to the doctor's office and I would gladly have a shot just so I could smell the alcohol swabs.
00:11:56.000 I mean, anything.
00:11:58.000 It's kind of weird, Dr. Prince.
00:11:59.000 I gotta say this.
00:12:01.000 Well, maybe not a COVID shot, but I mean.
00:12:12.000 But this country allowed that American dream to come true.
00:12:17.000 And that's what American Cornerstone is about.
00:12:20.000 Some very outstanding people from HUD and myself, we got together, we said, let's formulate a think tank, which was later dubbed a dew tank, to bring us back to those cornerstone principles that made us great.
00:12:39.000 It's not a coincidence that we went from a bunch of ragtag militiamen to the pinnacle of the world.
00:12:44.000 It was because of cornerstone number one, our faith, our Judeo-Christian values, which taught us to love your neighbor, not to hate your neighbor, not to cancel your neighbor if they have a different yard sign.
00:12:57.000 You know, what a difference that made for us as a nation.
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00:14:06.000 The cornerstone of liberty.
00:14:10.000 So important.
00:14:11.000 Our freedoms, our freedom of speech, our freedom to protect ourselves, our freedom of association.
00:14:17.000 All of these freedoms are things that people came to this country in search of.
00:14:22.000 We cannot let those go by any stretch of the imagination. 0.92
00:14:26.000 And that's why I speak out so vehemently against political correctness and wokeness and all this total crap.
00:14:34.000 You know, we can talk about what we want to. 0.87
00:14:36.000 People fought and died so that we could talk about what we want to and we could believe what we wanted to believe in.
00:14:44.000 And then the cornerstone of community.
00:14:52.000 You know, we had people who came here from all over the world, different places.
00:14:56.000 We had communities of 100 families, nobody else around for 50 miles.
00:15:01.000 Not only did they survive, but they thrived.
00:15:04.000 Why?
00:15:04.000 Because they understood the concept of the common good.
00:15:08.000 Sometimes they could barely even speak to each other with different languages, but they understood how to work together.
00:15:14.000 And that was the thing that helped us to grow so quickly and to become so powerful so quickly as a nation.
00:15:24.000 And then the concept, the cornerstone of life, from the womb to the tomb, you have to honor life because it is the most precious thing that God gave us.
00:15:36.000 And There was a time when we cared about everybody's life and the direction of those lives.
00:15:48.000 And we must get back to that place again.
00:15:51.000 We must get away from the hatred and the divisiveness because the fact of the matter is, we the American people, we are not enemies.
00:16:02.000 Wayne.
00:16:03.000 We are not enemies.
00:16:05.000 We have to remember that because people are trying to divide us on the basis of race, age, income, gender, political affiliation, religion, you name it.
00:16:17.000 And what has happened in other countries that became socialists or communists?
00:16:22.000 What did they do first?
00:16:23.000 Divided the people.
00:16:25.000 And they also dumbed down the population.
00:16:28.000 Isn't that going on in our country right now?
00:16:30.000 They're dumbing down the population.
00:16:35.000 You see these man on the street interviews and they say, who fought in the Civil War?
00:16:41.000 There was a Civil War?
00:16:42.000 I mean, they don't know who fought in the Civil War.
00:16:45.000 They don't know anything.
00:16:48.000 And as a result of that, they're very easy to manipulate.
00:16:51.000 You can come to them and you can say, our southern border is completely secure.
00:16:56.000 We have it safe and we have it under control.
00:16:58.000 And they'll say, the government said it was okay.
00:17:01.000 The government said it was secure. 1.00
00:17:02.000 You've got to be pretty stupid. 1.00
00:17:04.000 It must hurt to be that stupid. 1.00
00:17:08.000 Do you think the dumbing down of America is intentional? 1.00
00:17:12.000 I do believe it is intentional.
00:17:14.000 You know, what's going on in our schools?
00:17:17.000 You know, are we teaching people what they need to know to be effective, successful citizens? 0.96
00:17:24.000 Or are we teaching them things that are absolutely ridiculous? 0.89
00:17:29.000 You know, I think about this gender stuff that's going on right now. 0.94
00:17:33.000 You know, think about how life begins.
00:17:37.000 You have a male gamete with 23 chromosomes, a female gamete with 23 chromosomes, neither one of which has the ability to become a human being.
00:17:45.000 They join together.
00:17:47.000 Fertilization occurs, 46 chromosomes, a zygote.
00:17:52.000 It develops very quickly.
00:17:54.000 Within six to eight weeks, there are already little eyebuds and earbuds and little fingers and little toes and a heart that is beating and it continues growing and developing millions of neurons to that brain every single day.
00:18:10.000 Even when it's born, it's still developing that brain, millions of neurons.
00:18:14.000 That's why little babies sleep for 20 to 22 hours a day.
00:18:17.000 That brain is developed.
00:18:18.000 It continues to develop until your 20s.
00:18:21.000 So you're not mature until that time.
00:18:24.000 And yet we have people trying to take advantage of the natural curiosity and the flexibility of these children and confuse them.
00:18:34.000 That's why children have parents to protect them from people like that.
00:18:39.000 Doctor, so important.
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00:19:37.000 Doctor, what is your opinion of medical professionals who then treat a 12, 13, or 14-year-old with this irreversible cocktail of drugs against even notifying their parents?
00:19:52.000 I'm ashamed of them.
00:19:53.000 I'm ashamed to be in the same profession with people who do that.
00:19:58.000 I mean, because they know, because of their medical training, that the brains of those children are not developed.
00:20:08.000 And yet they're going to those children and sometimes telling them, don't tell your parents.
00:20:14.000 It's against the law in the United States.
00:20:16.000 And whatever happened to science.
00:20:18.000 Science used to be an important part of medicine.
00:20:20.000 What does science say? 1.00
00:20:21.000 You have two X chromosomes, you're a woman. 0.99
00:20:24.000 You have an X and a Y, you're a man. 0.91
00:20:26.000 Why is that difficult?
00:20:27.000 To understand.
00:20:31.000 And Dr. Carson, can you just elaborate?
00:20:34.000 Let's go deeper.
00:20:35.000 The institutions, the American Medical Association.
00:20:39.000 I mean, as someone who is literally one of the most accomplished doctors on the planet, how should we think about, how do you think about seeing the AMA, which represents 1.3 million medical professionals, say the way to treat this is through irreversible surgery and drugs?
00:20:56.000 Well, only 19% of doctors belong to the AMA.
00:20:59.000 That should tell you something right there.
00:21:02.000 You know, there are a lot of people in the medical community who actually think the right way.
00:21:10.000 But very much like the American population at large, they're afraid to speak up. 0.76
00:21:16.000 They're afraid to say something.
00:21:17.000 And this is what the left does.
00:21:19.000 It intimidates people.
00:21:21.000 And we have to remember, if we want to save America, if we want it to be the land of the free, it has to be the home of the brave.
00:21:35.000 Give a sign-off here for our activists of all ages, specifically the students that are facing opposition on campus.
00:21:43.000 Well, I've got to tell you, I am so happy to see so many young people who are brave enough to stand up for what they believe in.
00:21:52.000 And, you know, you guys are the missionaries.
00:21:59.000 Okay, there's a whole bunch of heathen out there.
00:22:02.000 And you need to go out and you need to speak up.
00:22:04.000 You need to talk about the things that made us into a great nation.
00:22:09.000 Don't be ashamed.
00:22:10.000 You know, so often people just stand in the corner and stare at their feet and hope no one calls them a nasty name.
00:22:15.000 That won't work anymore because we're on the precipice of what kind of country we're going to be.
00:22:21.000 Are we going to be a country that is up for and by the people or up by and by the government?
00:22:27.000 We have to decide that you have to be the missionaries.
00:22:30.000 You have to go out there and do this.
00:22:32.000 And if you don't do it, we're going to be lost.
00:22:34.000 So our future is dependent upon each one of you.
00:22:39.000 And everybody has a sphere of influence.
00:22:41.000 Don't think because you're not Charlie Kirk, you don't have a sphere of influence.
00:22:46.000 You do.
00:22:47.000 And it's much bigger than you think it is.
00:22:49.000 And think about Jesus' 12 disciples, 12 people.
00:22:53.000 And look at how many Christians there are in the world today.
00:22:56.000 We can do this.
00:22:59.000 Dr. Carson, I got one more question, and it's a curveball.
00:23:04.000 If asked, would you serve as Trump's vice president?
00:23:12.000 I'm getting you in trouble.
00:23:15.000 Well, let me put it this way.
00:23:18.000 Right now, our energies need to be focused on getting Trump back into office.
00:23:24.000 Everything else is a destruction.
00:23:27.000 God bless you, Dr. Carson.
00:23:28.000 Thank you so much.
00:23:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:23:36.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:23:38.000 God bless.
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