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00:01:40.000Indiscriminate bombing of civilian centers, an invasion of a sovereign country, regardless of whether or not it's a democracy and Ukraine is not a democracy.
00:01:48.000It's disgusting what Vladimir Putin is doing.
00:02:00.000There's a lot of backstory, though, worth getting into.
00:02:03.000And we're going to dive into this in a way I think that many shows will refuse to.
00:02:07.000We're going to follow the entire history, the entire story.
00:02:09.000We're going to have experts, legitimate experts, not the talking heads on television that say the same thing over and over again, and dive in to how the Biden-Obama regime, going back to Obama being president, created this.
00:02:23.000How the West lied to Ukraine and actually weakened Ukraine through false promises, about how the destruction of American energy superiority and supremacy played into Russia becoming stronger and why Russia feels so empowered and emboldened to do this at this particular moment.
00:02:43.000You're seeing the images of apartment buildings being bombed.
00:02:46.000You're seeing the images of Russian tanks go through Ukraine and breaking in just the last couple of moments.
00:02:52.000There's a firefight happening outside of Kiev right now, the capital of Ukraine, where it seems that the people of Ukraine and the Ukrainian military are doing everything that possibly can to hold the line against Russian aggression.
00:03:04.000Now, it's unclear what Putin's aims and objectives are here.
00:03:24.000There are indications, as Lucas is reporting, of an amphibious assault underway to the west of Mariupol.
00:03:31.000Thousands of naval infantry, we're told, are moving ashore near Mariupol on the Sea of Azov.
00:03:37.000According to this senior U.S. defense official, the Russians have lost a little bit of their momentum in these first two days.
00:03:45.000No population centers have been taken so far.
00:03:47.000Russia has yet to achieve air superiority, according to this official.
00:03:52.000Ukraine's air and missile defense capability is still working, though degraded.
00:03:57.000Ukrainian warplanes are still operational, we're told.
00:04:00.000In general, in the first two days, according to this official, in general, we assess the Russian forces are encountering greater resistance than they expected.
00:04:10.000They're not as strong as they pretended to be.
00:04:12.000The Russians can't even control the air against a far poorer country and weaker country with nowhere near the military sophistication.
00:04:19.000Cut 54: Ukraine's three largest cities are under attack right now, and that Russian Marines are on the ground.
00:04:27.000O'Shin, I can tell you that Ukraine's three largest cities are under attack tonight: Kyiv, the capital, Kharkiv, in northeastern Ukraine, and also Odessa.
00:04:37.000In the last hour, I told you an amphibious landing by the Russians was being prepared.
00:04:41.000I can now report that Russian Marines are on the ground in Odessa.
00:04:46.000In Cut 56, intense fighting is taking place near Chernobyl.
00:04:49.000Chernobyl actually has been taken by Russian troops, and they crossed into Ukraine from the puppet government in Belarus.
00:04:58.000At this hour, Russian forces continue their air and ground campaign against Ukraine.
00:05:03.000The Ukrainian Interior Minister says that Russian troops have now crossed the border from Belarus into northern Ukraine and are currently battling his troops in the Chernobyl zone.
00:05:14.000This is a key zone because if they are able to move forward from there, they can continue marching on to the capital of Kyiv.
00:05:30.000This is no situation where people just flee to the hills and allow the Taliban to take over.
00:05:34.000Vladimir Putin largely underestimated the fight and the result of the Ukrainian people and military, and also he overestated his own military might.
00:05:43.000It's an international humiliation for Vladimir Putin as he's not able to take what he thought was going to be just a walk in the park.
00:05:50.000Over 130 airstrikes were done throughout the country of Ukraine.
00:05:54.000So there's a lot to get into as to what America's involvement and role should be and actually what's happening on the ground in Ukraine.
00:06:00.000And the first thing, from a moral standpoint, what Vladimir Putin is doing is reprehensible.
00:06:05.000A stronger country crushing a weak one after lying to the world saying that he's not going to incur on it.
00:06:13.000Now, every single foreign policy expert on television, including people from the CIA who go on TV to talk, not as much as CIA, but the intelligence apparatus, they said this would just be a minor incursion.
00:06:23.000This is a full-fledged invasion from every potential direction.
00:06:28.000Joe Biden has responded in the way Joe Biden will, kind of muttering, saying that we're going to just put sanctions on, and that's the extent of what we're going to do.
00:06:37.000Listen to this montage from Biden's response in Cut 74 as he continues his knock-on wood policy.
00:06:44.000That's exactly what he did when we left Afghanistan.
00:06:46.000And I will make the argument that our improper, imprudent withdrawal from Afghanistan led to this event and set the table for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
00:07:01.000You didn't mention SWIFT in your sanctions that you announced.
00:07:04.000Is there a reason why the U.S. isn't doing that?
00:07:08.000It is always an option, but right now, that's not the position that the rest of Europe wishes to take.
00:07:14.000Given the full-scale invasion, given that you're not pursuing disconnecting Russia from what's called SWIFT, the international banking system, or other sanctions at your disposal, respectfully, sir, what more are you waiting for?
00:07:27.000The sanctions we opposed exceed anything that's ever been done.
00:07:31.000Let's have a conversation in another month or so to see if they're working.
00:07:35.000Sanctions clearly have not been enough to deter Vladimir Putin to this point.
00:09:26.000He's basically begging Putin not to do this with no leverage at all whatsoever.
00:09:31.000And one of the reasons, and we're going to get into this, is Biden disassembled the American energy supremacy and superiority we had under Trump.
00:09:39.000Our economy is far weaker than it was previously.
00:09:43.000You put all that together, what negotiating chips do we actually have?
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00:12:02.000One of the tragedies of this entire thing is the West lied to Ukraine for years.
00:12:06.000We taunted Putin and kind of dangled NATO membership to Ukraine, which actually weakened Ukraine.
00:12:13.000Ukrainian people had this far-distant hope that they were going to join NATO, and that was never a serious offer, nor should it have been, by the way.
00:12:19.000NATO was big enough as it was and was largely an American project.
00:12:23.000And because of that, Ukraine probably didn't make the investments in their military or their own domestic security apparatus that they otherwise would have because there was this distant hope that we were going to help them, that we were going to come and bail them out if they were ever invaded.
00:12:36.000And now they're left completely and totally alone.
00:12:39.000Instead of being very clear with Ukraine, that look, this is not our fight, you're going to have to ramp up your own security production and you're going to have to defend yourself against an invasion or whatever might happen in the future.
00:12:50.000Instead, the constant infiltration of the American security apparatus and State Department in Ukraine via Hunter Biden, John Kerry, Joe Biden demanding prosecutors to be fired, all the different types of activity that we saw in Ukraine has led this moment of a very weakened Ukraine and also a stronger Russia.
00:13:10.000Now, the environmentalists have completely captured the White House.
00:13:13.000Biden is completely controlled by the environmentalists.
00:13:16.000The stronger America's energy production has been and was, the weaker Russia was and the more timid they were.
00:13:23.000But also, we had a president for four years, President Trump, that was able to prevent Vladimir Putin from doing any sort of incursions of Georgia, of Crimea, or Ukraine.
00:13:32.000Why is it that the president that was accused of being a Russian agent is also the president that was able to stop Russia from doing any sort of adventures abroad?
00:13:44.000Not only was President Trump an anti-war president of new wars for America, there were no new wars that broke out anywhere.
00:13:53.000Now, there was the Syrian Civil War that was a travesty for humanity with the Russian-backed Bashar al-Assad, but the world was more peaceful when Trump was president.
00:14:19.000He said, okay, if I'm actually going to go through with any threats or diplomacy, we have to get our own country organized, our own country strong.
00:14:30.000Unshackle the American energy entrepreneur, expanding liquid natural, liquefied natural gas LNG leases, build the Keystone XL pipeline, strengthen the American economy, cut taxes, deregulate the economy.
00:15:18.000And so the first thing that Trump did, which was so effective, is make the American economy so strong, so powerful, that there are no chips that other countries can play against you.
00:15:30.000The second thing is that in the art of negotiation, be unafraid to say what the other side fears.
00:17:46.000I am invested personally and also through the Charlie Kirk show to try to do everything we possibly can to try and push back against these Democrats and their lies.
00:17:56.000And so look, you can get a signed picture by President Trump himself.
00:19:07.000Jack, what's going on in Ukraine, and what should America's response be?
00:19:11.000I think you actually kind of hit the nail on the head a minute ago when you talked about this idea of concentric circles of how the U.S. should, the U.S. is going to have to change its foreign policy moving into this new era.
00:19:24.000So we are seeing an area where those concentric circles that we do not get to unilaterally conduct our policy throughout the world anymore.
00:19:34.000What you're seeing is a global restructuring of the world or this neoliberal experiment, the United Nations, NATO, all of these organizations.
00:19:54.000What we now have is the right because of the rise of China, which we have financed and which we have fueled, they are now working with Russia to rebalance the entire world system, the entire world order.
00:20:07.000In many ways, you could say it's kind of going back to the system that we had pre-World War II, in a sense where you have this idea, this concept of multi-polarity.
00:20:17.000So, what you're seeing going on now in Ukraine, it's horrific and it's disgusting.
00:20:37.000But number two, we also have to understand that the great global realignment is underway, right?
00:20:44.000And so what do we need to do as Americans?
00:20:46.000We need to ask ourselves, if nuclear war is on the table, then that means that New York City, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, Los Angeles, they're all on the table now because nuclear war has been stoked as a potential option.
00:21:30.000Charlie, I think that from his perspective, right, and really just to understand the history of Eastern Europe has always been worfing constantly.
00:21:41.000Now you see why we left Eastern Europe.
00:21:44.000Now you see why we left Poland because Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, these have always been the killing fields of the great empires, whether that's Russia, whether that's the Soviet Union, whether that's the Germans, whoever it is.
00:21:58.000The fighting and the killing always seems to take place inside these areas.
00:22:03.000And the bloodshed and the killing that we've seen there and that we're seeing now again has just been the history.
00:22:10.000The blood that has been soaked into that soil over the past even 100 years, even going back 500 years, right?
00:22:20.000He's not rising above any of this stuff.
00:22:22.000He's going back into the old way of thinking, into the old way of doing business to say, if I want to push these people out, I'm going to do so with might.
00:22:31.000I'm not going to do so with diplomacy.
00:22:32.000I'm not going to do so with negotiations.
00:22:46.000That means where we were talking about putting military forces, putting NATO forces, missiles, armaments, tanks inside Ukraine, he viewed that as a direct threat to the Russian motherland.
00:22:59.000And perhaps our leaders, instead of using Ukraine as their personal piggy bank, like the Clintons and the Bidens have been doing for years, maybe they should have actually listened to how dire the Russians were telling us they viewed their actions as a threat.
00:23:14.000What should the United States response be here, Jack?
00:23:17.000Because the American people don't want troops to be sent there.
00:23:20.000I don't even think that's in the cards.
00:23:22.000Military strikes will be met with an escalation.
00:23:27.000Is there any U.S. response to this besides just a diplomatic and press release one?
00:23:32.000Well, I think the U.S. response really should be to sue for peace and to broker that peace.
00:23:36.000If we can stand up and be the ones to say that we brought the sides together, right?
00:23:40.000Now, I don't know if the Biden administration, unfortunately, are the ones that be able to have any credibility to actually do this, right?
00:23:47.000Do you really think that Tony Blinken is going to fly to Minsk and anyone's going to be able to listen to him?
00:24:46.000Go to him, put the pressure on, put the set and threaten sanctions if you have to.
00:24:50.000Ratchet up the tariffs, threaten to decouple completely with China.
00:24:55.000If he wants to realign with China, okay, fine, but you're going to pay the price and China is going to have to pay the price for backstopping all of this.
00:25:02.000To understand what's going on out there, and I know that this seems like a chaotic period.
00:25:07.000And I know it seems like a chaotic and a crazy time.
00:25:10.000It seems like the floor has just fallen out from under us.
00:25:14.000We're seeing horrific, brutal images that are coming across our screens, coming across social media.
00:25:19.000I do want to offer one word of caution: don't believe every single video you see on social media.
00:25:24.000Don't believe everything that comes across that because understand that there's a lot of CGI, there's deep fakes, there's video game videos that are being shown.
00:25:32.000There's even old videos being shown from training exercises or from 2014.
00:25:36.000So understand that just because you see something that's coming across your Twitter feed or social media, Instagram, whatever it is, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's real or it's happening right now.
00:25:45.000But that's not to diminish the fact that there are good people that are fighting for their lives right now.
00:25:51.000You've got Ukrainians fighting for their homes.
00:25:54.000You've got people that are trying to protect their land.
00:25:59.000So understand you are seeing real heroism from the side of those Ukrainian defenders today.
00:26:04.000And the siege of Kiev, which is coming, it is going to be brutal and it is going to be violent.
00:26:11.000So understand when you're looking at all this just emotionally, what you have to do is you have to say, look, what can I focus on?
00:26:18.000What can I focus on that I can control?
00:26:20.000What can I focus on that I can do in my personal life, in my daily life, in my home life, in my community life, my family life?
00:26:36.000And by the way, I'm already starting to hear reports now that humanitarian efforts are escalating.
00:26:41.000People are putting together teams to figure out: are there ways that charity groups can get in, Christian groups to get in to help the people that are the victims of this violence, the victims of this brutality?
00:26:53.000And as we gather more information on that, we're going to make that information available to you, available to everybody out there so they know how can they help if you can help with wallets, whatever form it ends up being to be able to get in there and to help the humanitarian side of all of this.
00:27:08.000So that's the bigger part, number one.
00:27:10.000What can we do as people, as Christians, as believers?
00:27:13.000What can we do to help the people who are caught in the middle of this?
00:27:25.000This has been the history of Eastern Europe, the killing fields of World War II, of so many violent conflicts and bloody conflicts for the past 500 years, even the past thousand years.
00:27:36.000If you want to go back further than that, the word Ukraine itself actually means borderland.
00:27:43.000So it means Ukraine is at the border, is essentially what it means there.
00:27:48.000And so understand also that the people of this area, the people, the Ukrainian people, the Belarusian people, and the Russian people, they don't want this.
00:27:58.000Understand that you've got a regime in Russia and you've got a regime in Belarus.
00:28:03.000The same way that we talk about, you know, regime of the CCP.
00:28:07.000The people, the regular people, the common man, they don't want this.
00:28:11.000They don't want to be doing this fighting.
00:28:13.000That's why you're seeing protests, brave protesters up there in Moscow and everywhere else.
00:28:18.000They're out there against it because they don't want to support this war.
00:28:23.000I want to ask you about the actual kinetic conflict on the ground of Ukraine.
00:28:27.000I want to ask how long this could last.
00:28:32.000It seems like they're planning for mass casualty events country, both from a landmass standpoint and from nothing else.
00:28:41.000If the Ukrainian citizens really choose to fight and they really choose to engage, this could result in tens of thousands, and God forbid, hundreds of thousands of people potentially dying.
00:28:51.000And so I want to kind of go through what you're hearing on the ground there, Jack, because some reports are showing that Putin is just doing a surgical operation straight to Kyiv, get the president, displace him, assassinate him, whatever, and then get a new government in place very quickly.
00:29:08.000And that's easier said than done, it so seems.
00:29:10.000There is heavy fighting outside of Kyiv right now.
00:29:13.000And it doesn't seem as if the Russians have been able to pull off, let's say, air dominance or air superiority or supremacy.
00:29:20.000And Jack, I want to ask you about that as well, which is, is the Russian military not all that they said they were?
00:31:03.000So, you know, take all of this with a huge grain of salt, but there is an interesting throughput line where people are saying, is Russia really sending the vast bulk of their military units?
00:31:14.000Are they sending those tank columns or are they kind of sending in some of their older equipment, some of the stuff they don't mind, you know, don't mind losing?
00:31:27.000And so it looks like that we're seeing, of course, as you said, we're seeing fighting in the south that is coming out of Crimea and that is coming up north.
00:31:34.000So there's huge resistance from the Ukrainians in those southern regions across the peninsula, right, that connects Crimea to the mainland.
00:31:41.000So that's where they're fighting in that isthmus.
00:31:43.000They're punching out into southern Ukraine.
00:32:48.000And it looks like they have taken it because that is on a direct path, a direct line to Kiev as they march south on both sides of Nepar River in a classic military-pinter argument.
00:32:58.000And again, just so, you know, because of course we have to say this, when we're describing operations, that does not mean we are supporting operations or condoning any of this.
00:33:05.000We're explaining what's going on on the ground as best we know it at this time.
00:33:09.000We're also getting reports of airstrikes on other military emplacements around the country.
00:33:14.000There's limited sea skirmishes that have gone on so far in and around the area of Odessa, Snake Island.
00:33:20.000It looks like there was a huge martyrdom of those 13 defenders of Snake Island, which is just outside of Odessa, which could be used as an amphibious assault landing points for that for an assault further on Odessa.
00:33:34.000If the Russians were able to take Odessa, that would essentially give them control of the entire northern, the entire northern half of the Black Sea.
00:33:42.000So not just Crimea, but push out all the way across.
00:33:46.000So you're really seeing this on multi-front.
00:33:48.000It's really a three-front war that they're fighting right now.
00:34:02.000It looks like they want to bring people to the table to fly up to Minsk, bring Zelensky in, send Lavrov, send a delegation to get those concessions from Ukraine.
00:34:10.000And the big one is getting NATO off the table.
00:34:12.000And I really do hope that we can sue for peace and that we can get a ceasefire in place as soon as possible.
00:34:48.000However, it's closing in very quickly, and we're going to keep our eyes on that as it continues to develop.
00:34:53.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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