The Charlie Kirk Show - June 26, 2023


Regime Change in Russia...and America? with Jack Posobiec


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Regime change on the mind? From Russia to our own government? What happened in Russia over the weekend? We have Jack Pesobic to help us unpack that. And is Joe Biden being replaced? We give our analysis.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Pancharli Kirkshaw.
00:00:01.000 Regime change on the mind from Russia to our own government.
00:00:05.000 What happened in Russia over the weekend?
00:00:06.000 We have Jack Pesobic to help us unpack that.
00:00:08.000 We give our analysis.
00:00:10.000 And is Joe Biden being replaced?
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00:01:11.000 All the things I thought we would be talking about today, I thought we'd be talking about Biden corruption and IRS whistleblowers.
00:01:17.000 We're going to get to that.
00:01:19.000 But the lead today that had everybody talking over the weekend is something that very few people are actually experts in.
00:01:26.000 I'm certainly not an expert.
00:01:28.000 Is Russia.
00:01:29.000 What happened in Russia over the weekend?
00:01:31.000 You know, so I take a pretty serious Sabbath.
00:01:34.000 I turn my phone off from Friday night to Sunday morning just to try to disconnect from this hyper crazy modern world we live in.
00:01:42.000 So I open my phone and everyone's talking about Wagner.
00:01:45.000 It's like, oh, okay, about time people are listening to Wagner.
00:01:48.000 About time we're getting back to good classical music.
00:01:52.000 Jack Posobic has memes everywhere.
00:01:54.000 I said, what on earth is going on with classical music?
00:01:57.000 It wasn't about classical music.
00:01:59.000 It's about the Wagner group.
00:02:01.000 No, this is not some sort of conflict in downtown Moscow over what classical music is best.
00:02:06.000 Apparently, over the weekend, as we, as I caught up very quickly, there was an abortive coup attempt in Russia by the Wagner group.
00:02:14.000 Now, the Wagner Group is led by somebody, say this three times facts.
00:02:18.000 Yevezhny Progozhin.
00:02:20.000 I think I said that right.
00:02:21.000 Hopefully I did.
00:02:22.000 Former criminal and hot dog salesman who eventually built one of the largest catering and restaurant businesses in post-Soviet Russia.
00:02:29.000 And yes, from there, he branched into running a private military company, effectively mercenaries.
00:02:34.000 Now, in Russia, private military companies are technically legal, illegal.
00:02:40.000 Yet Wagner operated with impunity anyway, as a de facto private army under Progozhin's control.
00:02:47.000 Now, Wagner's troops, many of them recruited convicts, not exactly sending their best, have fought in Syria, in Africa, and of course, thousands of them have been fighting in Ukraine, where they've been taking on a bigger and bigger role over the past year.
00:03:04.000 You've probably heard about the long battle over the city of Bakhmut that was heavily handled by the Wagner group.
00:03:11.000 Now, according to Bogozhin, he lost more than 20,000 men trying to take the town, openly disputing lower figures put out by the Russian government with this coup attempt.
00:03:23.000 It's not clear if he was telling the truth or trying to lay the groundwork for his own bid at power.
00:03:28.000 Now, you must remember that in third world countries, Russia is not technically a third world country, but in many countries, there's constant coups or attempted coups and who controls the military to overturn the country.
00:03:40.000 You would call this a potential insurrection.
00:03:44.000 I've heard that word before.
00:03:45.000 Progozhin has been loudly criticizing the conduct of the Ukraine war for some time.
00:03:50.000 But last Friday, he pivoted to a more literal attack on the Russian government.
00:03:54.000 His motivation, it seems, was to prevent Wagner troops from being forcibly incorporated more directly into the official Russian military.
00:04:02.000 Wagner troops took control of the city of Rostov.
00:04:05.000 Do you need a comparison?
00:04:06.000 That would be like if Blackwater took over the city of Phoenix.
00:04:09.000 Blackwater, the private contracting firm, used to exist under Eric Prince.
00:04:12.000 For a moment, it looked like Wagner was making a serious bid to overthrow the Russian government.
00:04:18.000 The government was setting up roadblocks and other defenses on the way to Moscow.
00:04:21.000 Putin reportedly fled the city, but after about 24 hours, Progozhin backed down.
00:04:26.000 He reportedly took a deal to leave the country for exile in Belarus or perhaps even Africa, while Wagner forces in Ukraine will be folded directly into the Russian army.
00:04:35.000 So Vladimir Putin's government survived, but this is hugely damaging to him.
00:04:40.000 One of his own subordinates launched a rebellion instead of crushing it, and they had to cut a deal to end it nonviolently.
00:04:47.000 And all public reports say that he threatened to just kill his family.
00:04:50.000 The Russian government said, we're just going to kill your family if this continues.
00:04:53.000 This might mean that another power struggle is imminent.
00:04:57.000 It could mean another bid to replace Putin.
00:04:59.000 Or it could mean that if he dies, the struggle to become his successor will be much more chaotic and violent.
00:05:04.000 Now, something the West will not tell you about Putin is that Putin is actually not the most radical voice in all of the Kremlin.
00:05:12.000 There are hyper-Russian nationalists that just say, why don't we just nuclear bomb Russia?
00:05:16.000 Ukraine.
00:05:17.000 Let's just get it over with.
00:05:18.000 A lot of people have the attitude that this is great, that if Putin is removed.
00:05:23.000 But don't believe propaganda that equates Putin with Hitler.
00:05:26.000 He is not.
00:05:27.000 There are many, many people in the Russian government who are far more extreme, far more extreme than Putin.
00:05:35.000 And that includes people who believe in using extreme means to try and win the Ukraine war.
00:05:40.000 So when Lindsey Graham comes out and he says we need regime change in Russia, what did Libya teach us?
00:05:46.000 What did the garbage in Syria teach us?
00:05:48.000 What did Iraq teach us?
00:05:50.000 Is that you have a 50-50 shot, and sometimes even worse than that, of actually getting a government that is as bad or even worse than what you currently are displacing.
00:06:03.000 Regime change as an American foreign policy has been a staple over the last couple decades.
00:06:08.000 So Putin, whatever you want to say bad about him, has tried to run Ukraine as a limited war with limited number of troops and limited spending by the Russian government.
00:06:16.000 He has not treated it as an existential conflict for Russia, but there are people inside Russia who think that it is.
00:06:23.000 Now, this is really important: that what we saw happen in Russia this last weekend, first and foremost, is what a real insurrection looks like.
00:06:31.000 So I'm going to first connect it to domestic politics.
00:06:34.000 Tanks, military leaders, central planning, roadblocks being formed up.
00:06:39.000 Yeah, that's an actual insurrection, not a bunch of people that get overly excited or passionate in a riot outside the U.S. Capitol where grandmas are going into the Capitol Rotunda and taking selfies.
00:06:54.000 Wagner was Russia's most effective fighting force.
00:06:58.000 This would be a real insurrection of the United States would have been on January 6th if actual paramilitary units, not the oath keepers, with weapons.
00:07:07.000 How do you have an insurrection with no weapons?
00:07:08.000 Wagner had tanks.
00:07:11.000 They seized power of entire cities.
00:07:13.000 This is important as we loosely throw around the insurrection term.
00:07:16.000 It's also equally important as they're going to try to indict Donald Trump under seditious conspiracy or insurrection.
00:07:24.000 All we have to do is look at what just happened in Russia and say, no, that's actually seditious conspiracy and insurrection.
00:07:32.000 So since this was actually an insurrection, unarmed Wagner troops, ground troops, occupied the Russian capitol building and milled around a bit.
00:07:40.000 Oh, wait, no, because that's not what you do in a real insurrection.
00:07:45.000 No, Wagners did not go into the Russian capital building and start taking selfies and start, you know, wondering if they were the QAnon shaman over the Senate.
00:07:54.000 No, no, no, no.
00:07:56.000 This was an actual military attempt over the Russian government.
00:08:00.000 But you're going to hear in the Western propaganda media relentless attacks on saying that Putin is weak and he is weak.
00:08:08.000 And that's legit.
00:08:09.000 Again, we don't, people call us Putin puppets all the time, but it's just so funny.
00:08:16.000 I'm pro-America.
00:08:18.000 They say, what side are you on, Ukraine or Russia?
00:08:20.000 Actually, the third option, I'm on America's side.
00:08:23.000 Really, I'm uninterested in Ukraine or Russia when our own country falls apart.
00:08:28.000 And you should only care about your own country when your own country is collapsing.
00:08:32.000 And so what we have here is a lot of people, the Western press, are going to say, we need to now administer a deathblow to Putin.
00:08:39.000 He's weaker than ever.
00:08:40.000 Be careful what you wish for.
00:08:42.000 Be careful what replaces quote-unquote bad man with something else.
00:08:47.000 You might get something incredibly radical.
00:08:51.000 You might get the Russian equivalent of ISIS with nuclear weapons.
00:08:56.000 Okay, Saddam Hussein, not a good guy.
00:08:59.000 Vladimir Putin, not a good guy.
00:09:02.000 But what no one ever wants to admit, again, because they all act like they're experts, which we don't even pretend like we're experts, but we see things honestly and real, is that usually when you have strong men of balkanized countries, they're usually keeping a coalition in check of even more radical people, like Bashar al-Assad or Saddam Hussein or Moamar Gaddafi or Vladimir Putin.
00:09:27.000 Strong men who are not to be admired for virtue or for their goodness.
00:09:33.000 However, you replace them, you have a vacuum, and that vacuum very well might be filled with absolute maniacs that then might have control of the Russian arsenal.
00:09:45.000 So Vladimir Putin, this is a blow to his power and his international credibility.
00:09:52.000 But I encourage you to fall short of calling for the collapse of the Putin government because you might get something far, far worse.
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00:11:33.000 So while the Russian government faces an actual insurrection, Merrick Garland in our own government has certainly been acting like a Russian mob boss, covering up crimes, lying to Congress.
00:11:50.000 As the chief law enforcement officer, he's far from gained or earned the trust of the American people.
00:11:56.000 And now Speaker McCarthy says he will start the impeachment of the Attorney General, Merrick Garland, by July 6th.
00:12:04.000 Now, I'll be very honest with you.
00:12:06.000 I don't like making these arguments, such as the media is only talking about this that distract away from that.
00:12:12.000 I don't like talking about it.
00:12:14.000 However, it is awfully convenient for a war-obsessed media to have what happened in Russia this last weekend while the Biden regime is facing its greatest domestic corruption challenge.
00:12:30.000 So let's flip this.
00:12:32.000 Don't complain about the media not talking about it.
00:12:35.000 Let's make them talk about it.
00:12:37.000 So that's exactly what we're going to do.
00:12:38.000 Play cut 13.
00:12:40.000 So will this prompt you to do an impeachment inquiry?
00:12:44.000 Well, you apparently don't follow me on Twitter because yesterday I laid out very, very clearly by July 6th, because of the allegations from the IRS, because of the whistleblowers and the DOJ, Garland, what he is saying and what David Weiss are saying privately are two different things.
00:13:02.000 And if it comes true what the IRS whistleblower is saying, we're going to start impeachment inquiries on the Attorney General.
00:13:08.000 That is really smart.
00:13:10.000 You have to go after the roster of the people.
00:13:12.000 And let me, I tweeted this this weekend as I was getting caught up.
00:13:16.000 I think that this House Republican group, they have definitely disappointed many of you and many of us in certain ways.
00:13:24.000 But it is noteworthy that six months since they took the majority, in six months, they have been able to get as much evidence as they have on Merrick Garland and Joe Biden.
00:13:35.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, that doesn't matter.
00:13:37.000 No, it absolutely matters is there has to be some form of justice.
00:13:42.000 At some point, you have to call these people out.
00:13:44.000 And I was talking to some Democrats this weekend, some very wealthy seasoned Democrats that I just happen to kind of be in the same room as.
00:13:54.000 And there is finally some doubt in Democrat circles.
00:14:00.000 And there's also some movements, and I have some sources in these camps.
00:14:05.000 There's some movements in the Gavin Newsom camp.
00:14:09.000 There's some movements in the J.B. Pritzker camp.
00:14:14.000 There are some movements in the kind of Democrat competitor landscape.
00:14:20.000 And something very strange happened Friday afternoon.
00:14:24.000 And we weren't broadcasting Friday afternoon.
00:14:27.000 The media actually started to do their job.
00:14:30.000 You could tell a lot by how the media cover stories based on whether or not they've been given permission by the gatekeepers, by the Mockingbird folks.
00:14:41.000 And it's very possible.
00:14:43.000 In fact, it is likely that they're not exactly throwing Biden to the dogs, but his special protections might be disappearing.
00:14:55.000 Play cut 14.
00:14:56.000 As you know, Hunter is a son.
00:14:58.000 I'm just not going to get into it.
00:15:00.000 If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors?
00:15:06.000 Well, a couple of things.
00:15:08.000 Again, that's his son.
00:15:09.000 He's a family member.
00:15:11.000 It is not uncommon for family members to attend events at the White House.
00:15:15.000 You could look at past presidents.
00:15:16.000 I'm sure you have.
00:15:18.000 So that is not uncommon.
00:15:19.000 As it relates to anything related to Hunter, I'm just not going to respond to it from here.
00:15:26.000 So we actually might be seeing the same story in the same weekend.
00:15:31.000 You might think, oh, they're totally different.
00:15:34.000 No, they're not.
00:15:36.000 In Russia, you saw attempted regime change.
00:15:39.000 And you might be seeing attempted regime change.
00:15:42.000 And I'm not going to make any broad proclamations.
00:15:44.000 Drives me nuts.
00:15:45.000 Oh, Joe Biden is dead to rights.
00:15:47.000 Joe Biden might survive this.
00:15:49.000 They might cover it up or he might not survive it.
00:15:52.000 But I think the important part is the doubt.
00:15:55.000 There very well might be some very ambitious Democrats.
00:15:59.000 I know this for certain in the Gavin Newsom world and in the J.B. Pritzker world and even the Kamala Harris world that this is reaching an indefensible point for Joe Biden.
00:16:11.000 I'm sitting here with my dad and if we don't get paid and boom, now we have photo evidence that he was with his dad and that zing, a wire arrives, wire transfer, $5 million.
00:16:23.000 Could it be that Joe Biden is going to be removed by the very shadow government?
00:16:28.000 We don't know.
00:16:29.000 But it is true that this evidence is getting harder and harder and harder for them to spin.
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00:17:53.000 Joining us now is Jack Posobiec, who's been on the case.
00:17:56.000 He doesn't take a Sabbath like I do.
00:17:58.000 He was the first person that I messaged.
00:18:00.000 Well, I think he does a little bit of a phone Sabbath, but I said, Jack, what in holy Moscow is going on here?
00:18:06.000 And he had the answers.
00:18:07.000 Jack, thank you for making time for us.
00:18:08.000 Jack, what happened in Russia over the weekend?
00:18:11.000 Yeah, Charlie, I appreciate that.
00:18:13.000 So behind the scenes, of course, Charlie texts me, I guess what it would be Saturday night, and then says, hey, what's going on?
00:18:22.000 Russia.
00:18:22.000 I've been off.
00:18:23.000 I've been doing the Sabbath with the phone.
00:18:26.000 And now I do mine, but I typically do it on Sundays where I stay out.
00:18:31.000 And so when I was all up on Saturday paying attention to all this, and I said, Charlie, it looks like there's one of these Russian mercenaries went rogue, decided to take a run on Moscow.
00:18:43.000 He got turned back very quickly, and he's headed to Belarus now.
00:18:48.000 Just one sentence.
00:18:49.000 And that is in one sentence, essentially what happened.
00:18:52.000 But the kicker here, Charlie, is that with the exception of myself and the other guys on War Room on Saturday morning for the Saturday show, everyone in mainstream media from Fox to CNN to MSNBC said this was going to be the beginning of the end for Russia.
00:19:09.000 A civil war was about to break out, that everything was coming loose.
00:19:14.000 Putin's entire regime is flying off the skids.
00:19:18.000 And it just really interested me because these are people like Michael McFowell, like Peter Zihan, like, you know, even Malcolm Nance and some of these guys, who supposedly have been studying this for decades and decades.
00:19:35.000 In fact, McFowl, of course, served as our ambassador to Russia at one point.
00:19:41.000 And all of them got this completely wrong, didn't have any understanding of what's going on in there.
00:19:48.000 And then Oliver Darcy, which I thought was hilarious, came out saying, you know, at times like this, I really wish that Elon would take away those blue checks from allowing anyone to just buy one because CNN needs to find, you know, good sources of information from Twitter.
00:20:04.000 And I said, wait a minute, you're CNN.
00:20:07.000 Shouldn't you guys have sources like all over Russia?
00:20:10.000 Shouldn't you guys be on the ground doing actual reporting on both sides?
00:20:14.000 Like, I don't know, like a news organization would, but you're not.
00:20:18.000 You're just reading Twitter and Telegram like everybody else.
00:20:22.000 And unfortunately, Charlie, that's what led them to these insane levels of just bewildering comments, pulling their hair out over the weekend saying Russia's completely falling apart.
00:20:35.000 When instead, what did end up happening was, as we said, the guy got turned around, sent out to Belarus.
00:20:42.000 The other mercenaries are now being folded back into the Russian army.
00:20:46.000 And Charlie, it is like I pulled up, opened my Machiavelli this morning.
00:20:51.000 Mercenaries show no fear of God nor fidelity toward man.
00:20:57.000 That is well said.
00:20:58.000 So, Jack, again, I'm a layman when it comes to Russia.
00:21:01.000 I think most of our audience cares about America.
00:21:03.000 Like, what a concept.
00:21:04.000 I wish Washington, D.C. was that way.
00:21:06.000 But I think one immediate takeaway from my analysis when I saw this was that I saw these massive tanks and legit military force being threatened.
00:21:15.000 And I thought to myself, well, that's a real insurrection.
00:21:17.000 And Jack, we were totally on the same page.
00:21:20.000 We were completely harmonized because you said something very, very similar.
00:21:24.000 So, Jack, how is that attempted coup and insurrection that we saw this last weekend kind of just make what happened on January 6th, just see what it actually is, which is an out-of-control riot with a couple numbskulls and almost everybody else being peaceful and taking selfies?
00:21:39.000 Jack Posobic.
00:21:41.000 So, Charlie, it's going to be very hard for Merrick Garland and Jack Smith and the DOJ and Nancy Pelosi and everyone else to come out and claim that January 6th was itself an insurrection after this,
00:22:00.000 because we all just saw, we all just saw with our own two eyes what an actual armed insurrection, no, it didn't end up being one, but what it should look like, right?
00:22:11.000 We saw the tanks rolling.
00:22:13.000 We saw the military cordons wrapped around the building.
00:22:17.000 We saw the, you know, a military general type figure giving orders, making statements, making demands against the government, saying that he was going to target Moscow, saying that he was going to target the Capitol, that he was on his way in, that he was on his way to the Capitol.
00:22:34.000 It's going to be very hard for them to keep up the big lie, and it is the big lie, that January 6th was an insurrection.
00:22:42.000 Because now, even subconsciously, the people on the left, because they were the ones, all right, they've walked themselves into a corner now because they were the ones claiming this is the end of Russia.
00:22:53.000 Russia's about to be overthrown.
00:22:55.000 The government's about to be overthrown.
00:22:57.000 Okay.
00:22:58.000 So if that's what a government overthrow looks like, then how can you claim that a couple of Mimos running around the Capitol respecting the velvet ropes of Statuary Hall and admittedly some people rioting, getting into Fistakovs, is anywhere near the same level of thing that we're talking about?
00:23:18.000 Of course not.
00:23:19.000 So, subconsciously, they've actually destroyed their entire argument because the media has already set the bar for what an insurrection was supposed to be.
00:23:28.000 But it's like they forgot, they forgot the entire year of propaganda they've been pushing on us regarding January 6th rather than simply talk about it, what the truthful situation was.
00:23:41.000 That there was, and admittedly, there are a lot of questions about what happened.
00:23:45.000 There were a lot of mistakes, doors were left open.
00:23:48.000 There are questions surrounding certain individuals that were urging people to go into the uh go into the Capitol.
00:23:55.000 And of course, a bunch of the memes, Charlie, I'll have to send them to you that were flying around on Saturday showed, of course, Ray Epp riding along in one of the tanks saying, We need to go into the Kremlin.
00:24:09.000 Yes, we need to go into the Kremlin.
00:24:12.000 It goes to show what an actual insurrection is, which again, if people started showing up with tanks and mercenary units, I think that everything would have been handled differently.
00:24:22.000 But they need to lie about January 6th.
00:24:24.000 They need to exaggerate it because it makes them more powerful.
00:24:27.000 Jack, I want to shift gears for a second here with you and talk about the potential domestic regime change.
00:24:33.000 I've been hearing little whispers, Jack, little things in the ether.
00:24:38.000 And I'm sure you've been picking up on vibrations too, Jack, that J.B. Pritzker and Gavin Newsome and Gretchen Whitmer are even just starting to do a little bit more visits to Iowa and Lincoln Reagan Day.
00:24:51.000 Well, they don't do those, whatever, transgender dinners or whatever it might be.
00:24:55.000 Jack, do you think that there is a chance that if this does not go well for Biden this summer by Labor Day, there might be a Democrat primary or is the regime going to go all in on Joe Biden, Jack Bosobic?
00:25:07.000 Charlie, I've been, I'm long Joe Biden in the sense that I think they will have him as the candidate if they have to prop him up with a stick.
00:25:15.000 Joe Biden is a known quantity to a lot of voters.
00:25:18.000 He's been around a long time.
00:25:19.000 People remember him from being Obama's wingman that helps him with certain areas of the country, certain areas of the Democrat electorate.
00:25:26.000 And when you talk about putting in someone like a Gavin Newsom, someone who is not really a known quantity outside of California, of course, he's been starting with that, starting to kind of come out more.
00:25:37.000 He's getting into his back and forth with Ron DeSantis and others, that they are playing it very smart.
00:25:44.000 And I'll put it this way: DeSantis, of course, comes out and says he's going to primary Trump and he's going to go directly after him.
00:25:51.000 Now, Trump's not the sitting president, but of course, he is essentially the immediate former president.
00:25:56.000 And of course, the frontrunner and has always been the frontrunner in the race.
00:26:00.000 So what Newsom has done is actually quite clever because what he's doing is going to the Democrat overlord, the Democrat power bosses, because he understands how the Democrat system works.
00:26:14.000 They do not have an open system.
00:26:15.000 They have a system of super delegates.
00:26:17.000 They have a system of party bosses.
00:26:19.000 They have these massive dark money groups run by Arab Lake Alarfella Investors and the Tides Foundation.
00:26:25.000 And they have all the Soros groups, et cetera, et cetera.
00:26:29.000 Alex Soros, we're told, is going to be getting into politics more, Reim Powell Jobs, Reid Hoffman, whatever.
00:26:35.000 So he's saying, look, I'm not going to go the full RFK route and actually try to primary someone from within my own party, which, by the way, is a Kennedy tradition.
00:26:45.000 If you consider RFK's uncle, Ted Kennedy, primarily sitting Democrat president Jimmy Carter in the primary of 1980.
00:26:53.000 But what Newsom is doing is he's standing right on the sidelines saying, hey, guys, I'm right here if you need me.
00:27:01.000 I'm right here if you want to put me in.
00:27:03.000 Put me in, coach.
00:27:04.000 I'm ready to play if you need me and I will be all set.
00:27:09.000 That being said, he's been an absolutely horrible governor and California's a complete mess.
00:27:15.000 He's been a terrible governor.
00:27:16.000 But you're right.
00:27:17.000 I do think, though, that Joe Biden is keeping the coalition together.
00:27:21.000 As long as Donald Trump is running for the presidency, all these Democrat mob families are going to get along.
00:27:26.000 If Donald Trump ever leaves the picture in some way, shape, or form, there is going to be a brutal red-winning Game of Thrones, absolutely just, let's just say, nasty and very, very medieval civil war in the Democrat primary.
00:27:45.000 But as long as Trump is still running, all of them have decided to kind of sit this out and wait for permission.
00:27:50.000 Jack Pisovic, thank you so much.
00:27:52.000 Everyone on Real America's Voice, check him out.
00:27:54.000 Thank you.
00:27:57.000 Is there a more irresponsible Republican senator than Lindsey Graham?
00:28:02.000 How has Lindsey Graham's neoconservative fetish worked the last 20 years?
00:28:09.000 Regime change in Iraq, regime change in Libya, regime change attempted in Syria, regime change even in Egypt, which was clumsy.
00:28:20.000 Lindsey Graham is now calling for Vladimir Putin, has been calling for Vladimir Putin to be removed.
00:28:26.000 He's only going to intensify those calls.
00:28:29.000 He's been calling for an outward assassination of Vladimir Putin.
00:28:33.000 And so here's another interesting question: if Vladimir Putin is facing a mutiny and a potential insurrection domestically and his country might be folding against him or government or whatever, and again, anyone who pretends they know Russian politics is super strange, okay?
00:28:52.000 It just is.
00:28:54.000 Then why is that necessary for us to send $100 or $200 billion?
00:28:58.000 We're told that Russia is the super strong country and that they could take over all of Europe.
00:29:03.000 He can't even quell his own rebellion.
00:29:05.000 Well, he can, but a little bit clumsy.
00:29:08.000 What about our own country falling apart?
00:29:10.000 Here's Lindsey Graham.
00:29:11.000 This will result in World War III if he gets his way.
00:29:14.000 This will result in millions of people dead.
00:29:17.000 Play cut 17.
00:29:19.000 Yeah, I hope he'll be taken out one way or the other.
00:29:22.000 I don't care how they take him out.
00:29:24.000 I don't care if we send him to The Hague and try him.
00:29:28.000 I just want him to go.
00:29:29.000 Yes, I'm on record.
00:29:31.000 Please understand, Senator Lindsey Graham.
00:29:34.000 And if John McCain were here, he'd be saying the same thing, I think.
00:29:37.000 It's time for him to go.
00:29:39.000 He's a war criminal.
00:29:41.000 Yeah, that's not a great argument, Lindsey Graham.
00:29:43.000 If John McCain was here, he'd be saying the same thing.
00:29:46.000 That's your compelling argument.
00:29:48.000 So regime change is on the mind.
00:29:52.000 And dare I also make the exact same argument with Joe Biden: be careful what you wish for.
00:29:58.000 If there was a theme to this hour, it's regime change feels interesting.
00:30:04.000 Regime change feels like it's the right thing.
00:30:08.000 Regime change feels like we want to do it.
00:30:10.000 But boy, be careful what you wish for if you get rid of Joe Biden.
00:30:14.000 In some ways, there is an argument to be made that maybe we want Joe Biden to survive this but be damaged.
00:30:24.000 Maybe we want Joe Biden to get through this but have all this extra baggage.
00:30:28.000 Do we want a smoother talking, much more talented politician, terrible governor, Gavin Newsom?
00:30:38.000 Would you rather run against Joe Biden or Gavin Newsom?
00:30:41.000 I'd rather run against Joe Biden right now.
00:30:43.000 It's precisely the same mentality that people have towards Vladimir Putin.
00:30:51.000 Just get rid of him.
00:30:52.000 But what then fills the void?
00:30:54.000 Well, if you get rid of Joe Biden, what's going to fill that void in the Democrat Party?
00:31:01.000 Much more talented, potentially exciting politician.
00:31:05.000 Joe Biden's superpower is he doesn't excite anybody.
00:31:08.000 Imagine someone that could actually make you feel something at a speech that could actually do the Obama thing with their mail-in balloting and signature verification issues.
00:31:17.000 And you've got a serious Democrat machine that's been built, plus a talented politician.
00:31:23.000 You're going to have some trouble there.
00:31:26.000 So be careful what you wish for.
00:31:29.000 Impeachment of Joe Biden is seriously on the table, and I think we should pursue it.
00:31:34.000 Now, again, there is a chance sometimes when you do regime change, you get something that is actually more advantageous.
00:31:40.000 So Kamala Harris could be that something.
00:31:44.000 Kamala Harris, I think, actually could be easier to beat than Joe Biden.
00:31:48.000 But it also goes to show that anybody who is guaranteeing you what the outcome will be if we displace Putin or take out Biden, it is a mystery.
00:31:57.000 It is several sequences of randomness that occur when you remove a leader of a country.
00:32:06.000 Should Joe Biden be held accountable?
00:32:07.000 Of course he should be.
00:32:09.000 Democrats, they very well might be drafting somebody else.
00:32:13.000 I think Jimmy Carter still alive.
00:32:15.000 He has got another term left in him.
00:32:17.000 Jimmy Carter with the mail-in balloting operation they have could probably win.
00:32:20.000 Not a joke.
00:32:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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