The Charlie Kirk Show - November 28, 2023


Republican "Elites" Endorsed their Next Anti-Trump 2024 Candidate


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The Koch Network has made their selection for their presidential candidate for 2024, and we unpack that. Also, get your tickets to Amfest, the largest conservative gathering in history, coming to Phoenix, Arizona on Dec. 16-19th.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tan the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 The Koch Network has made their selection.
00:00:05.000 They have decided on a candidate for 2024, and we unpack that.
00:00:11.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:00:32.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:02:58.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:03:00.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:03:02.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:03:06.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:03:09.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:03:10.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:03:11.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:03:13.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:03:20.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:28.000 That's why we are here.
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00:03:41.000 It's amazing how our politics have changed over the last 10 years.
00:03:47.000 A decade ago, there was a group of donors that was by far the most powerful in conservative politics.
00:03:56.000 They tended to be a little libertarian.
00:03:58.000 They were so powerful, in fact, the gathering that they put together, that an entire book was largely written about them by Jane Mayer called Dark Money.
00:04:08.000 You guys can get that book and show it up on screen.
00:04:11.000 It was supposed to, it was framed as this clandestine group of robber barons and industrial titans, people from all sorts of different walks of life and industry that were trying to come together to collude to advance right-wing policies to get themselves wealthier and richer.
00:04:31.000 This coincided with a Supreme Court decision, Citizens United, that said that money can flow into politics as much as you would like.
00:04:41.000 And the left was outraged over this.
00:04:43.000 Now, of course, we've covered extensively on the show how the left decided to stop complaining and embrace the bomb, to use a quote from Dr. Strangelove, to use the power of dark money to their advantage.
00:04:58.000 Democrats have become the experts of dark money.
00:05:01.000 George Soros, Mackenzie Bezos, Mark Benihoff, Reid Hoffman, Lorene Powell Jobs.
00:05:08.000 But 10 years ago, the left was behind the curve.
00:05:13.000 Center-right, conservative libertarian donors would gather.
00:05:17.000 And as I was getting started at Turning Point USA, you would hear whispers about this gathering.
00:05:21.000 And boy, I wanted more than anything else to attend one of these gatherings.
00:05:25.000 I could barely scrap together $5,000 here and $10,000 here.
00:05:28.000 Our first major donor, Foster Freese, would tell me about this gathering.
00:05:35.000 In fact, he was one of the pioneers at this particular gathering brought to you by the Koch brothers to actually start what they would do when people would stand up and pledge money.
00:05:45.000 I'll do $5 million.
00:05:46.000 I'll do $10 million.
00:05:47.000 I'll do $15 million.
00:05:48.000 And 10 years ago, that group did a lot of good.
00:05:53.000 That group spent a lot of money to try to advance the idea of fiscal discipline.
00:05:58.000 But at times, there were these undercurrents of open borders and cheap and relaxed immigration.
00:06:04.000 But the power center, the nerve center of the movement was without a doubt going right through the Koch network.
00:06:15.000 And I, like any other upstart entrepreneur, wanted to try to earn their support.
00:06:19.000 So we were friendly and I was more libertarian back then anyway.
00:06:23.000 And say, hey, you know, I want to go to their gathering, go to their meeting.
00:06:26.000 Never actually happened, never went to one of their meetings, but a lot of our donors would attend.
00:06:29.000 But slowly, all of a sudden, things started to change.
00:06:32.000 And as Ernest Hemingway would say, they happened gradually, then suddenly.
00:06:39.000 Donald Trump changed everything.
00:06:42.000 He got people to think differently, to reconsider their premise.
00:06:48.000 All of a sudden, he said, no, no, no, the Republican Party should be about the American worker, about the muscular class.
00:06:54.000 Why are we bringing so many foreigners?
00:06:56.000 We're losing our identity, borders, language, culture.
00:06:59.000 As Michael Savage would say, Donald Trump took that and made it a campaign ethos.
00:07:06.000 10 years ago, the Koch brothers and the gathering around them, they were framed as Darth Vader by the media.
00:07:14.000 In fact, you can go and find articles of Charles Koch, who's one of the wealthiest people on the planet, literally wearing a Darth Vader suit, making fun of the whole thing.
00:07:26.000 But the left's relentless campaign against them seemed to work.
00:07:30.000 Over the summer, there was an article written by the, published by the Claremont Institute, The American Mind, by Adam Kistle.
00:07:37.000 It is an excellent piece called The New Koch on how the Koch brothers in 2019 made a shift, where now they use proper pronouns at the Koch Foundation.
00:07:47.000 They talk about advancing equity, that they fund organizations in the spirit of DEI.
00:07:54.000 For example, quote, the Koch Foundation wants to break barriers, eliminate injustice, signaling openness to critical race theory.
00:08:05.000 The article is excellent.
00:08:06.000 New Koch.
00:08:07.000 We're going to publish it on a repost that on charliekirk.com.
00:08:11.000 Stand Together tweeted, which is one of the Koch brother-funded initiatives, that they're not just an advocate for social justice, but also racial justice.
00:08:22.000 So taking a step back.
00:08:24.000 You see that Koch went woke and their attendance has gone down over the last 10 years.
00:08:31.000 Donors have said, you know, I don't want to be part of this anymore.
00:08:34.000 It doesn't align with my values.
00:08:36.000 I know many donors that stopped going to the Koch Brother retreats because during Floyd Apalooza, the summer of love, the Koch network was talking about racial justice.
00:08:45.000 Like, yeah, we're not going to put up with that.
00:08:46.000 They saw CRT in our schools.
00:08:48.000 They saw the Transyngamar kids.
00:08:50.000 In fact, many turning point USA donors are former Koch attendee donors.
00:08:55.000 But not all of them.
00:08:56.000 They still have some power, especially the power of Charles Koch himself.
00:09:01.000 His brother, David Koch, passed away.
00:09:04.000 Charles Koch is still worth nearly $100 billion.
00:09:08.000 His father founded Koch Industries.
00:09:11.000 There were four brothers.
00:09:13.000 Fred, who's not involved, Bill, who's involved in a oil company, David, who's passed away, and Charles, who runs Koch Industries to this day, one of the largest privately held companies on the planet.
00:09:24.000 Now, the Koch Network has made promises to their donors that they're not going to get involved in presidential primaries.
00:09:33.000 They've never done it before.
00:09:34.000 Now, understand how this works.
00:09:36.000 They have some programs that they do.
00:09:37.000 Americans for Prosperity, for example, which, by the way, they always brag about how many activists are involved in Americans for Prosperity.
00:09:44.000 I've never actually met an activist that's like, yeah, I'm involved in AFP.
00:09:48.000 It's like, yeah, okay.
00:09:49.000 It's not exactly the grassroots action that they tell their donors, but we'll put that aside for a second.
00:09:56.000 But they convene these donor retreats, and some donors still trust them for guidance and for direction.
00:10:04.000 Spend money on this candidate don't do that.
00:10:05.000 But the philosophical underpinnings of Americans for Prosperity is without a doubt, cultural libertarianism laced with corporate globalist chamber of commerce perspective.
00:10:18.000 Now, the one thing I will say that I respect about the Koch Network is they, at least in their language throughout the years, has said they want to cut spending.
00:10:30.000 Okay, I am a fiscal hawk.
00:10:32.000 I think we have to resist major debts and deficits.
00:10:34.000 I want to be perfectly fair.
00:10:36.000 That is no longer a focus I see in any of their messaging or any of their deals.
00:10:41.000 They're running these ads nonstop.
00:10:44.000 And it feels as if it is watered down vanilla controlled opposition republicanism that they're trying to push forward.
00:10:54.000 So this group of donors, they'll attend twice a year to these summits.
00:10:58.000 It's well publicized.
00:11:00.000 It's been written about in the New York Times.
00:11:02.000 Nothing new.
00:11:03.000 And they've been tilting to the left, tilting to the left.
00:11:07.000 And we've seen this pattern throughout the years of groups that were once hardcore right-wing go to the left, but they've made a very big announcement today, everybody.
00:11:19.000 Americans for a Prosperity, which again is a group of donors, not a group of activists.
00:11:23.000 And again, some donors are awesome.
00:11:26.000 I think sometimes when people on the right use donors as a pejorative, I got to say, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.
00:11:32.000 There are some patriotic, amazing, wealthy people like Bernie Marcus yesterday, who we celebrated, who wrote an amazing op-ed resisting this kind of Koch brother tilt and said, it's a simple choice.
00:11:43.000 94-year-old American Patriot Home Depot co-founder worth nearly $10 billion, says, I'm all in for Trump.
00:11:50.000 But this particular group of donors, they have a different perspective.
00:11:55.000 And they, many of them, have business interests of which they want the advancement of very specific policies that might not be good for the country, but will be good for their companies.
00:12:08.000 They lace that together with virtue signaling, white guilt-riddled talking points.
00:12:13.000 And here you have, put it all together with a little bit of libertarianism, you know, mix a little bit of Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard.
00:12:21.000 May hey, a little F.A. Hayek, a Ayn Rand and a twirl, if you will, of Henry Hazlitt.
00:12:28.000 And you have Americans for Prosperity.
00:12:31.000 Well, they have now made their endorsement and they are going all in behind a single candidate.
00:12:37.000 And it's not Donald Trump.
00:12:39.000 We'll talk about that in a second.
00:12:41.000 That the network of libertarian globalist donors, they're not going away.
00:12:45.000 They're doing their final stand.
00:12:48.000 The last stand of the globalist billionaires.
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00:14:24.000 So the Koch Network has made their decision.
00:14:29.000 Now, before I tell you about it, just so we're clear, that for years, Charles Koch and the Koch Network funded organizations and still against neoconservative warmongering.
00:14:46.000 They even partnered with George Soros on something called the Quincy Institute to try to stop foreign intervention in wars.
00:14:55.000 So I say that for a reason, because it goes to show how inconsistent, unprincipled, undisciplined, and hilarious this endorsement is.
00:15:06.000 One of the key pillars of Coke World is don't invade the world.
00:15:14.000 Harsh critics of Bush, harsh critics of Dick Cheney.
00:15:19.000 So they sent out a memo, Americans for Prosperity.
00:15:22.000 And I just hope all of you guys know that when you go to your Republican precinct committee meetings and you go to your state party chair meetings and you see the Americans for Prosperity booth, many of the people that work there are wonderful people.
00:15:32.000 Many of them are.
00:15:34.000 But understand that more times than not, it's a synthetic lens for open border Chamber of Commerce policies.
00:15:42.000 And they put on the jersey of grassroots activism to get you to buy in to policies and ideas that might be inconsistent with your worldview.
00:15:53.000 They do not want a closed southern border.
00:15:56.000 They do not want the American worker to be prioritized.
00:16:00.000 They do not want to see the war in Ukraine settled down and brokered to peace.
00:16:06.000 They do not want to see the government say that children are off limits with trans surgeries.
00:16:12.000 Instead, they start, they say, well, you know what we need is criminal justice reform.
00:16:18.000 Excuse me?
00:16:20.000 Black crime is a major issue in our country.
00:16:23.000 Why are you pushing criminal justice reform exactly?
00:16:26.000 So understand that some of those people are great people that work for Americans for Prosperity.
00:16:31.000 But go read what they write.
00:16:32.000 Go see what they publish.
00:16:34.000 Okay.
00:16:34.000 So this is their official memo.
00:16:36.000 It's nothing private.
00:16:38.000 It's now public on November 28th, and they're making their decision.
00:16:42.000 Americans for Prosperity Action to grassroots leaders, activists, and interested parties.
00:16:47.000 Well, I guess we're interested parties, aren't we?
00:16:51.000 November 28th, 2023.
00:16:54.000 Early this year, we said we announced our political strategy.
00:16:57.000 We've never been involved in presidential politics before, but the good news is that AFP Action is in a position to do something about it.
00:17:05.000 Rest easy, everybody.
00:17:06.000 Americans for Prosperity Action is on the way to solve the Republican primary.
00:17:12.000 A bunch of donors that you don't know that want open borders and are sick of Trump are willing to deploy hundreds of millions of dollars or at least tens of millions of dollars not to ballot chase voter registration or secure our elections, but to extend an unnecessary and embarrassing and bloody primary.
00:17:30.000 At the outset of the strategy, we made clear that we'd be businesslike in our decision.
00:17:35.000 We would support a candidate capable of turning the page on Washington's toxic culture, a candidate who can win.
00:17:42.000 And last night we concluded that analysis.
00:17:44.000 But let me just say what they say about Trump.
00:17:45.000 Republicans have been nominating bad candidates who are going against America's core principles and voters are rejecting them.
00:17:53.000 That's what they say about the MAGA base.
00:17:55.000 And they have made their decision.
00:17:57.000 Drumroll, everybody.
00:17:59.000 Who is it?
00:18:00.000 Is it Vivek?
00:18:02.000 Nah.
00:18:03.000 Chris Christie?
00:18:05.000 No.
00:18:06.000 Doug Burnham?
00:18:08.000 No.
00:18:09.000 Ron DeSantis?
00:18:10.000 No.
00:18:14.000 everybody.
00:18:14.000 It is Nimarada Nikki Haley.
00:18:19.000 AFP Action is proud to throw our full support behind Nikki Haley, who offers America the opportunity to turn the page on the current political era, to win the Republican primary and defeat Joe Biden next November.
00:18:34.000 She has what it takes to lead a policy agenda to take on the nation's biggest challenges to help ensure our country's best days are ahead.
00:18:41.000 With the grassroots and data capability, yeah, give me a break.
00:18:44.000 We bring to bear in this race.
00:18:46.000 No other organization is better equipped to help her do it.
00:18:50.000 All right.
00:18:51.000 Americans for Prosperity, the Koch Network, has now officially selected their candidate and declared war on many of you, including Ron DeSantis supporters out there, by the way.
00:19:04.000 This is a globalist neocon chest move, chest move against the America first movement.
00:19:09.000 This is a salvo directed at you, at the populist nationalist muscular class movement of everyday Americans that want their country back, the border secure, that want your kids to say they are off limits.
00:19:22.000 They want your kids to love America again.
00:19:23.000 They want something else.
00:19:25.000 And Nikki Haley is the vessel that they are going to use to do it.
00:19:30.000 They say Nikki Haley is in the best position to defeat Donald Trump in the primaries.
00:19:34.000 That's hilarious.
00:19:34.000 Have you talked to a Republican primary voter in the last 10 years?
00:19:39.000 We're going to keep talking about this.
00:19:40.000 And there's a piece of tape that shows one of the reasons why they selected Nikki Haley.
00:19:45.000 The primary is not over.
00:19:46.000 It should be.
00:19:47.000 But the globalists, they are, they're mounting their last stand.
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00:22:59.000 So Nikki Haley is endorsed by the Koch Network.
00:23:03.000 They say here, Nikki Haley is by far the strongest candidate Republicans can put up against Joe Biden.
00:23:10.000 In sharp contrast to recent elections that were dominated by the negative baggage of Donald Trump and which good candidates lost races they should have won, Nikki Haley at the top of the ticket would boost candidates up and down the ballot, winning the key independent and moderate voters that Trump has no chance to win.
00:23:27.000 Yeah, these oligarchs are telling you in the grassroots who has a chance to win.
00:23:34.000 Nikki Haley has a long track record of empowering people with more freedom and opportunity and supporting policies that favor competition over control.
00:23:45.000 As governor, Haley's work to expand education opportunities, improve access and lower costs in our healthcare system, and protect freedom and flexibility in our workforce shows she shares our belief.
00:23:54.000 Nikki Haley by far offers the best opportunity to improve the lives of all Americans.
00:24:00.000 Well, this has done one thing.
00:24:02.000 This has certainly disqualified Nikki Haley from becoming vice president.
00:24:07.000 The Koch network has been running this ad all summer, play cut 61.
00:24:13.000 Win this time?
00:24:14.000 Because beating Joe Biden is the only way to get our country back on the right track.
00:24:19.000 Sure, Donald Trump did some good things as president, but he lost.
00:24:23.000 Americans had their say.
00:24:24.000 Nominating him again would hand Democrats another win and ensure four more years of President Biden.
00:24:31.000 Republicans need a new leader, someone who will win the fight and get elected.
00:24:36.000 If we nominate Trump, Republicans lose and Biden wins.
00:24:43.000 I can't tell you how often I hear that from people disconnected from the grassroots.
00:24:49.000 Let's not rewrite history.
00:24:50.000 Donald Trump fell 44,000 votes short in three states with an election that was an insult to the rule of law, to our traditions, to our standards, to our customs, to the Constitution.
00:25:03.000 44,000 votes with mass mail and ballots and the laptop being censored, midnight voting counting and week-long vote dripping out of Maricopa County, 44,000 votes.
00:25:18.000 Donald Trump brings out voters that Nikki Haley will never bring out.
00:25:22.000 If there's any lesson of the modern Trump era, it's that that cannot be duplicated.
00:25:26.000 It cannot be replicated.
00:25:30.000 Now, one of the biggest issues for Americans for Prosperity, I remember once being at Politicon in Nashville, I'm going to say, I think it was Tennessee.
00:25:38.000 Yeah, it's Nashville.
00:25:40.000 And one of the Koch groups had a big booth there.
00:25:43.000 And they basically said, we need unlimited immigration into our country, unlimited.
00:25:48.000 Nikki Haley, she knows who she's talking to.
00:25:50.000 Listen to this.
00:25:51.000 Nikki Haley says, we need more Elon Omars.
00:25:56.000 If companies say they want more Elon Omars, let's bring them in.
00:26:00.000 Play cut 48.
00:26:02.000 When it comes to legal immigration, it's a broken system.
00:26:05.000 It shouldn't take someone 10 years to become a citizen.
00:26:08.000 But what we need to do is reform it.
00:26:10.000 So for too long, Republican and Democrat presidents dealt with immigration based on a quota.
00:26:15.000 We'll take X number this year, we'll take X number next year.
00:26:18.000 The debate is on the number.
00:26:20.000 It's the wrong way to look at it.
00:26:21.000 We need to do it based on merit.
00:26:23.000 We need to go to our industries and say, what do you need that you don't have?
00:26:28.000 Oh, so we need to go to Google and say, how many foreigners do you need, Google?
00:26:35.000 Yeah, we need to go to Goldman Sachs, companies that hate our country, by the way, and say, hey, how many Chinese nationals do you need, Goldman Sachs?
00:26:44.000 That's what she's saying.
00:26:46.000 Americans for Prosperity continues in their endorsement of Nimerata, and it says that their resources are going to be all in for the primary.
00:26:59.000 And I just love this.
00:27:00.000 This is so sad.
00:27:02.000 It's just sad at the end of this document here.
00:27:06.000 I can't get enough of this.
00:27:07.000 The whole thing.
00:27:08.000 And they say, a note of appreciation.
00:27:10.000 On a final note, allow me to offer thanks and appreciation to Governor DeSantis, who's been a tremendous leader for the state of Florida.
00:27:19.000 He's been a strong advocate for many important freedom-oriented policies and fiscal responsibility.
00:27:25.000 We understand that some of the governor's supporters, including many who support AFP, will be disappointed in our decision.
00:27:31.000 However, as the 2024 primary season heats up, we're entering a time period that demands choices.
00:27:37.000 So, Ron DeSantis, you won the consolation prize.
00:27:41.000 You won the consolation prize.
00:27:44.000 You know how sick this document is?
00:27:46.000 You know what's not mentioned once in here?
00:27:48.000 That Donald Trump is facing 700 years in federal prison?
00:27:54.000 They don't care.
00:27:55.000 Because deep down, they think he deserves it.
00:28:00.000 Deep down, they think it is warranted.
00:28:04.000 The weaponization of the Department of Justice going to jail for making a meme.
00:28:08.000 Not once in this document does AFP mention that we are being invaded on our southern border.
00:28:17.000 And they're willing to spend their money not on strengthening the movement.
00:28:21.000 But I want to contrast this document and why they're getting behind Nikki Haley and the amazing article that we platformed yesterday.
00:28:30.000 Two completely different perspectives.
00:28:35.000 Bernie Marcus, 94 years old.
00:28:38.000 He has made his billions.
00:28:40.000 He is driven by one thing, love of America.
00:28:46.000 He writes in the article, look, I'm upset with Trump on some stuff.
00:28:50.000 So what?
00:28:52.000 Get over it, Bernie Marcus says.
00:28:55.000 I'm 94 years old.
00:28:57.000 I don't want my grandkids to grow up in Mao's, China.
00:29:02.000 Suck it up, Bernie Marcus says.
00:29:06.000 AFP, they do this little cute rap-a-tap dance.
00:29:10.000 Well, our polling shows this, and we think we can, if you really think Nikki Haley has a chance to beat Donald Trump.
00:29:19.000 Now, let me tell you how this is going to work.
00:29:21.000 It's very clear.
00:29:22.000 Politico.com has an article today.
00:29:24.000 It's obviously planted.
00:29:25.000 It's fine.
00:29:26.000 And let me just be very clear.
00:29:27.000 I've gotten along with Nikki for years.
00:29:28.000 I actually don't harbor any personal resentment for her.
00:29:31.000 She has spoke at turning point events before.
00:29:32.000 She's welcome on the show.
00:29:34.000 We see things completely differently.
00:29:36.000 She's always been very kind, very sweet.
00:29:38.000 I got to know her son, you know, said something nice when she announced for the presidency, but she's got no chance.
00:29:44.000 So I want to make sure that's very clear.
00:29:45.000 It's on the record.
00:29:46.000 This is not a personal thing.
00:29:47.000 I'll let you know when it's a personal thing.
00:29:49.000 With Nikki, it's not a personal thing.
00:29:51.000 She was a pretty solid governor.
00:29:52.000 She's an unbelievable neocon.
00:29:54.000 Like, invade the world, invite the world, neoconservative, extraordinaire.
00:29:58.000 But let me tell you this, Politico.com tilts the entire deal.
00:30:01.000 They have this whole puff piece for Nikki Haley that she goes to South Karatis.
00:30:06.000 Thank you.
00:30:07.000 This is totally planted.
00:30:08.000 Again, this is regime planted.
00:30:10.000 They think Nikki Haley is the vessel to get a last-minute distraction to fight the Republican Party.
00:30:16.000 In South Carolina homecoming, Haley's town hall turns into a full-blown rally.
00:30:19.000 So let me tell you kind of the one-two gut punch that they're going to try to have against Trump right now.
00:30:24.000 They're going to try to see if DeSantis can get some sort of rally, late rally in Iowa.
00:30:29.000 It might get closer than people think.
00:30:30.000 Just to be honest, Iowa is a tricky state.
00:30:33.000 Iowa voters like to be courted.
00:30:36.000 The caucus system is unusual.
00:30:40.000 The poll showed Trump up 30, but if Trump only wins by 15, the media will say, wow, Trump only won by 15.
00:30:45.000 And Iowa, in my personal opinion, I think Trump has to lower the expectations of Iowa and understand that it's a goofy system.
00:30:54.000 I'm not saying it's a bad system.
00:30:56.000 It's a goofy system.
00:30:57.000 I actually spoke at an Iowa caucus event back in 2016.
00:31:01.000 So they're going to try to see if DeSantis can make a race out of it in Iowa.
00:31:04.000 But they're going to try to do a Joe Biden 2020 style reset in South Carolina with Nikki Haley the same way Joe Biden did in 2020.
00:31:15.000 They're going to try to make South Carolina the actual first state.
00:31:19.000 And Nikki Haley, of course, is the former governor of South Carolina.
00:31:23.000 Why do you think Tim Scott bowed out of the race?
00:31:27.000 Tim Scott did that to clear the South Carolina lane for Nikki Haley.
00:31:33.000 Tim Scott is the senator from South Carolina.
00:31:36.000 He's trying to clear a lane for Nikki.
00:31:39.000 And Nikki is going to downplay Iowa.
00:31:42.000 She's going to try to get close in New Hampshire, which polling shows you can do well, and then go all in on South Carolina.
00:31:48.000 Nikki's going to go all in on a home state strategy of South Carolina.
00:31:52.000 Now, hilariously, Donald Trump has the endorsement from Lady Graham.
00:31:59.000 So that's just hilarious.
00:32:00.000 This last weekend, Donald Trump got a massive ovation at the South Carolina Clemson football game.
00:32:06.000 And Trump's team, very smart, they see what's happening here.
00:32:09.000 Trump will win Iowa.
00:32:10.000 The question is: will he win it by five?
00:32:12.000 Will he win it by 20?
00:32:13.000 The caucus system is very unpredictable.
00:32:15.000 And if Trump wins by less than 10 points, the media will paint it, and it won't be a fair picture, of course not, as Trump is on the ropes, last-minute surge.
00:32:24.000 Oh my goodness, make it newsy in this kind of social media way.
00:32:28.000 They're going to try to frame South Carolina as a reset.
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00:34:03.000 One of the missing elements for the regime this last year has been a sleepy Republican primary.
00:34:12.000 It has been sleepy.
00:34:14.000 Donald Trump deserves incredible praise for bypassing and skipping the Republican debates.
00:34:25.000 That was very, very wise of him.
00:34:28.000 It could have created a race when there was not one.
00:34:30.000 It was very good discipline.
00:34:32.000 And the RNC tried to bait him in.
00:34:34.000 They tried to bait him in.
00:34:36.000 He said no.
00:34:37.000 AFP Action also releases all of these polling, all this polling here, that Haley is the strongest candidate that we have.
00:34:49.000 Internally, we have not seen, we've seen the general election race tightening in Biden v. Trump.
00:34:53.000 It's not tightening.
00:34:55.000 Trump is up huge.
00:34:56.000 What are you talking about?
00:34:56.000 Tightening.
00:34:57.000 And by the way, all these polls, I'd be very curious what AFP Action is doing with their tens of millions and potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure that the general election candidate is going to win.
00:35:13.000 But for them, Donald Trump is an existential threat to their priorities.
00:35:19.000 An existential threat when he says that we are going to close the border.
00:35:24.000 Ooh, scares them.
00:35:26.000 That we are going to prevent critical race theory from being taught in our schools.
00:35:31.000 Their whole foundation, the new Coke talks about advancing racial justice.
00:35:38.000 Mr. Koch's book in 2020 is completely different than the old Koch style, went through a complete rewrite, talking about driving progress in critical conversation shaping the 21st century.
00:35:51.000 Every single one of these Koch groups, including Stand Together, 300 community-based groups tackling the root causes of poverty.
00:36:00.000 Stand Together calls these pro-progress perhaps the starve-off critiques that Cochus is promoting so-called unbridled capitalism.
00:36:07.000 They began, IHS, which is a Coke-adjacent group, funds a race in contemporary protocol life.
00:36:14.000 One of the people that they are partnering with has an argument: quote, treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity, and other works that appear to be rooted in critical race theory far more than any ground of classical liberalism.
00:36:26.000 You guys can check out the whole piece of New Coke, American Mind, AmericanMind.org.
00:36:33.000 We will post that article.
00:36:36.000 So, what are they doing here?
00:36:38.000 Well, in some ways, they're so uncomfortable with a Trump presidency because, for some of them, Trump is a threat to their business.
00:36:49.000 There is no other way to explain it.
00:36:51.000 Yeah, some of it might be personal vendettas or, and this whole idea: well, Trump can't win.
00:36:56.000 Why do you say that?
00:36:59.000 What evidence do you have to support that?
00:37:01.000 Don't give me this poll stuff.
00:37:03.000 This is a bunch of nonsense.
00:37:04.000 44,000 votes was the margin in 2020.
00:37:09.000 And there was not a ballot chasing operation, the lawfare stuff that needs to happen.
00:37:14.000 No, no, no, they're concerned about an unnecessary, deeply destructive horse race.
00:37:21.000 The good news is that donors have been leaving AFP in big numbers throughout recent years.
00:37:26.000 They don't want what they're selling.
00:37:28.000 There's still a remnant, though, obviously, that are pumping in significant sums of money to now prop up the warmonger, Nikki Haley.
00:37:36.000 I just love it.
00:37:37.000 The old school libertarians that have given tons of money to Cato throughout, like literally used to sit on the board of Cato, is now endorsing Nikki Haley.
00:37:47.000 That goes to show that their Trump derangement syndrome is so unhinged.
00:37:53.000 And the final point I'll make is the opportunity cost here is the most frustrating.
00:37:58.000 It is maddening.
00:38:00.000 What a waste of resources, a waste of time, a waste of energy.
00:38:06.000 But is it a waste?
00:38:08.000 Or is it a strategy?
00:38:11.000 Imagine what we could all do combined, what Turning Point Action could do, what Scott Pressler could do with these resources.
00:38:19.000 Imagine what we could do on the front lines in Wisconsin and Arizona, ballot chase, precinct commitment, strengthening the grassroots base.
00:38:27.000 But I'm not convinced that they actually want Trump ever to win, even if he was the nominee.
00:38:32.000 I think they would rather bloody him up, damage him, and say, I told you so.
00:38:38.000 That's not how patriots act.
00:38:42.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:38:43.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:38:46.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:38:48.000 God bless.
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