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00:02:18.000I'm not going to attack Governor DeSantis personally or anything, but I think we need to make sure we learn a lesson and pull the fire alarm and stop acting like we're guaranteed to win coming into November.
00:02:30.000It's funny how things in the conservative movement change.
00:02:34.000Two months ago, people said, oh, there's no way we're going to win.
00:02:38.000And now today, everyone thinks we're going to win.
00:02:40.000So it's my job to try to make sure we get to some sort of equilibrium because I could tell you right now, we are getting our tails kicked in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia.
00:02:50.000While, yes, Donald Trump is the betting favorite on all the online prediction markets and the polls look good, there's way too much cockiness going on right now on the right.
00:03:02.000One of the reasons why we are at a significant disadvantage is that elections are completely different than how they used to be.
00:03:10.000And we're falling into the 2016 trap, into the 2022 trap.
00:03:54.000I have received angry emails for the last year because I overly compliment Ron DeSantis, because I say that he's a terrific governor and America's greatest governor.
00:04:03.000In fact, I think we all can learn things from Ron DeSantis as far as how to govern a state, how to maximize your conservative credentials to govern in a way that represents your voters.
00:04:14.000But we're talking about something completely different.
00:04:17.000Being governor of Florida and then deploying resources in a way that makes us more or less likely to win the White House coming in November are two separate things.
00:04:27.000And we must be very honest that the Ron DeSantis candidacy post July, I'm all for you test the waters, you see if you're the guy.
00:04:36.000And if all of a sudden you start to see that things are not going the way, let's just even say post-August after the first debate, the continuation of that campaign with the inevitable outcome that we did receive begs the question of why didn't we deploy that money to ballot chase and voter registration and election integrity.
00:04:56.000And the objection I receive is, well, Charlie, it's easy for you to say this now.
00:05:57.000I said, Ron DeSantis should drop out immediately, and he could own that he is going to deploy his hundreds of millions of dollars in a super PAC in a way that's going to help us defeat the Democrats.
00:06:07.000He doesn't have to do it in an overly Trumpy way, and he could become a hero in the Republican Party.
00:06:13.000And I was told by her and some other people over and over again, against very nice, godly people, that the best investment that we could make is holding Donald Trump in check and balance.
00:06:22.000And I'll tell you, you know, yesterday Ron DeSantis drops out.
00:06:25.000Let's play the tape here, just so you could hear it for yourself.
00:06:29.000Over the past many months, Casey and I have traveled across the country to deliver a message of hope that decline is a choice and that we can, in fact, succeed again as a nation.
00:06:39.000Nobody worked harder, and we left it all out on the field.
00:06:43.000Now, following our second place finish in Iowa, we've prayed and deliberated on the way forward.
00:06:48.000If there was anything I could do to produce a favorable outcome, more campaign stops, more interviews, I would do it.
00:06:55.000But I can't ask our supporters to volunteer their time and donate their resources if we don't have a clear path to victory.
00:07:02.000Accordingly, I am today suspending my campaign.
00:07:06.000Now, I want to compliment Governor DeSantis.
00:07:09.000This next clip, he probably did not want to do it, but he put the country over his own personal stuff.
00:07:15.000When I saw this, I said, I have a lot of respect for him.
00:07:45.000It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance.
00:07:50.000They watch his presidency get stymied by relentless resistance, and they see Democrats using lawfare this day to attack him.
00:07:57.000While I've had disagreements with Donald Trump, such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci, Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden.
00:08:08.000I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge.
00:08:13.000He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear, a repackage formed of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.
00:08:23.000The days of putting Americans last, of kowtowing to large corporations, of caving to woke ideology are over.
00:08:32.000Okay, and so look, I give that five out of 10.
00:08:34.000I'll be honest, that's part of the reason why I was a little spicy on Twitter yesterday.
00:08:51.000I'm sure that Blake can go into the historical archives and say, when has there ever been a presidential endorsement where you simultaneously endorse the person, you attack them when you're endorsing, and you say, I'm only doing it because I signed a piece of paper.
00:10:20.000And so let's just be, we're going to tell you the honest state of affairs here.
00:10:24.000Again, if I felt our morale was too low, I would build this up.
00:10:27.000If I felt our morale is too high, which it is, I got to get us back down to a place of get to work, get to work, and also a honest reflection of how Ron DeSantis wasted $150 million that we know of.
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00:12:49.000And I totally get teasing out the waters, but post-August, when they had that first debate and you're down by 40 points, and you still decide to go full throttle and spend hundreds, $150 million.
00:13:02.000I got to be honest, no lesson was learned.
00:13:47.000And I'm going to stay like a dog with a bone on this for a little while because people are saying, oh my goodness, you know, this is great.
00:13:53.000There shouldn't have been a primary once it's a 40-point poll margin in July, guys.
00:14:24.000If the argument is that we now need to spend $150 million on primary disputes, of which Donald Trump largely didn't even participate in, instead of general election infrastructure.
00:14:37.000And so this reporter texted us and they said, quote, this is what Steve Kornacki said.
00:14:42.000And our own reading of the grassroots is parallel.
00:14:46.000DeSantis was competitive until the end of March 2023, which is also when the news broke of the indictment from the Manhattan DA.
00:14:56.000People's sympathy and people's support of Donald Trump increased when they saw that he was under attack by the lawfare regime.
00:15:05.000And in addition, it was DeSantis' ridiculous comment on it when he said, I don't know what goes into porn star hush money payments, insinuating that Trump actually paid Stormy Daniels.
00:15:41.000And Andrew was calling producer Andrew out of the goodness of his heart, trying to say, guys, if you want to have any sort of hope to be the Republican nominee, if you want to have a good campaign, and he was doing this out of the goodness of his heart and out of really, honestly, respect for Governor DeSantis.
00:15:56.000And that was the first time a president was ever indicted.
00:16:15.000And his team was like, we know what we're doing and you don't.
00:16:19.000And one thing I will say about Vivek Ramaswamy, which is why I'm such a Vivek Ramaswamy fan and admirer, is that Vivek Ramaswamy received coaching throughout the campaign.
00:16:29.000Again, it was such a tough thing for him to ever become nominee, but the way that we judge Vivek's success or not success is a different grading curve than DeSantis.
00:16:37.000It was a huge success for moving the Overton window.
00:16:40.000I would call Vivek and I'd say, you're wrong on this, you're wrong on this.
00:16:43.000And it would be a 20-minute conversation.
00:16:45.000And all of a sudden, I see that he cleans it up.
00:16:47.000This was the beginning of the end of the Ron DeSantis presidential campaign.
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00:18:33.000I want to riff on this a little bit more.
00:18:34.000People say, Charlie, what do you mean by early state infrastructure?
00:18:36.000So the entire presidential race will come down to Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.
00:18:41.000We have been saying this repeatedly for those of you that are loyal and fervent and dedicated listeners and viewers of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:18:48.000We know we have been clear on this because we ran the electoral math.
00:19:33.000Ronna McRomney has declared war on Turning Point through many different ways, through proxies, through narrative war, through her insulting us.
00:19:40.000And that's not the only reason we're doing this, but it certainly has convicted us further.
00:19:52.000And Rana McRomney, who is a proven loser, is still in charge of the RNC.
00:19:59.000And we are barreling towards a defeat in November because of the RNC and the lack of their ability to raise capital, their lack of their ability to chase ballots.
00:21:07.000This represents 15 million voters in key swing states, in key battleground states.
00:21:15.000And so, again, it's called restoring national confidence, sharing technology, data, grassroots training, resources, how to ballot chase, how to secure our elections.
00:21:37.000And these are the county chairs that are actually going to be doing the work.
00:21:40.000I know it might be hard for you to understand, but Rana has never done a venue where she brought in the top county chairs and spoke to them because they hate her.
00:21:50.000And they should, because she's afraid of them.
00:22:44.000And President Trump has an opportunity that once he's the nominee to fire Rana.
00:22:49.000I have no idea if that's going to happen because the RNC deep state runs deep all throughout the Trump campaign and all throughout the RNC.
00:22:55.000I certainly hope she gets fired, but no guarantees.
00:22:58.000And by the way, how can I, in good faith, as someone who wants to see the country saved, see Rana McRomney, who has lost every single time, every time.
00:24:07.000Ballot chasers are full-time grassroots activists that target low-propensity voters, low-propensity voters to try to increase our turnout in voting month.
00:24:16.000Not our high-propensity voters, not you guys, our low-propensity voters.
00:24:20.000And finally, we need to be registering new voters.
00:24:23.000The Democrats right now have thousands, no exaggeration, thousands of full-time people in the key swing states.
00:24:32.000The RNC certainly doesn't have anything.
00:24:34.000At turning point action, we are about near our 100th staff member.
00:24:39.000By April 1st, we'll have hundreds of full-time ballot chasers.
00:24:42.000I'll be able to show you a picture of a parking lot full of full-time people that we've raised money on a relative shoestring budget versus the DeSantis pile of $130, $150 million.
00:24:52.000Will the RNC be able to fill up a parking lot of people with clipboard and tennis shoes and the data and the technology?
00:25:10.000So I hope all of you understand that when I have these forceful opinions, we literally put our money, we put our muscle, we put our hustle, we put our grit where our mouth is.
00:25:20.000We're not just a show where we complain and close our laptops and go home and watch football, Netflix, and Hulu.
00:25:26.000After the program is over, I have meeting after meeting after meeting to raise capital, to call donors, to try to just run the organizations that we have here.
00:25:45.000And I told this to President Trump, and I'm going to say it again, I'll say it to the whole Trump team.
00:25:48.000If you do not have Rana removed by the convention, the 168 members of the RNC meet after the convention.
00:25:56.000And by then, we will hopefully have removed the state party chairs that support Rana, like the one in Texas and many others, not the state party chair, but the one of the RNC committee women.
00:26:08.000And we will force a vote in Milwaukee after Trump is the nominee, and we'll remove her that way, which will be a total black eye for the Trump campaign.
00:26:18.000So I just hope you guys get rid of her before that, or else we're going to have to do it.
00:26:22.000The grassroots cannot stand what's happening at the RNC, period.
00:26:26.000And so if we have to force your hand to a vote at the RNC meeting in July in Milwaukee, great.
00:26:34.000And some people say, oh, Charlie, why is this so personal with Rana?
00:27:11.000We have the country that is against affirmative action at record rates, country that's against DEI, against the grooming in schools, the country that wants the border secure on almost every single issue except abortion, which is a minorly losing issue, but not as much as people think.
00:27:27.000We are a center-right country in our temperament when it comes to the Constitution, when it comes to Second Amendment, when it comes to free speech, when it comes to every major issue, we're a center-right country.
00:28:25.000The country via the RNC is much more important than making Tesla profitable.
00:28:33.000Why do we demand excellence on our sports teams and our publicly traded companies, and we allow mediocrity, corruption, graft, deception, and lying when it comes to the RNC?
00:28:47.000And we say, oh, you know, that person's really nice.
00:31:00.000For those of you guys that have listened to us, the investments have not been made.
00:31:03.000So we hopefully we'll be able to raise $400 million and hire a couple thousand people in these key states and build the infrastructure in just a matter of a couple months.
00:31:33.000She just hasn't faced the onslaught of years of media attacks, of super PAC attacks that Donald Trump has faced.
00:31:40.000And frankly, the fact that Trump is still standing and still leading in the polls against Joe Biden suggests he has real political resilience.
00:31:47.000I know a lot of people who are choosing Nikki Haley think she's the low-baggage candidate.
00:31:51.000In reality, she's the candidate the Democrats haven't teed off on, but they will tee off on her if she's the nominee.
00:31:56.000She won't be, but if she is, she will face exactly what Donald Trump has faced for the past six years.
00:33:11.000Especially going down to South Carolina, her home state, which it looks like she's going to get obliterated even more.
00:33:17.000Isn't that interesting that Nikki will have a much harder time even in South Carolina than in New Hampshire?
00:33:25.000But let me kind of tie this all together here, which one of the reasons why I've been as intense this hour as I have is there's a lot of chatter from the Davos crowd and to the polling that Trump is going to win and Trump is going to win.
00:33:45.000If I feel as if the base is getting too excited about the inevitability of Trump's presidency, then I'm going to try to sober us to make sure we do the work.
00:33:53.000If I think that so many people are too, let's just say, pessimistic, then I'm going to try to build up and say that we can win.
00:34:48.000So next week, we are what otherwise would be a sleepy, corrupt, you know, hookers and blow convention of the RNC is going to be a working meeting.
00:34:59.000Next week was planned to be a rather sleepy, do-nothing loser time in Vegas.
00:35:05.000And thanks to turning point action, we're going to have some real results and some real marching orders to improve our chances going into November.
00:35:15.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:17.000Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.