The Charlie Kirk Show - Deportations, Texas-Style

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00:00:15.000 And also, Chris Pavloski from Rumble, hot as a pistol.

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00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:25.000 There is an alternative economy that is building and it is building.

00:01:30.000 And there's some huge announcements.

00:01:32.000 I mean, this stock is as hot as a pistol.

00:01:34.000 I don't do investment advice, but it's really something to see.

00:01:37.000 And it is really amazing.

00:01:40.000 Rumble.com, R-U-M-B-L-E dot com.

00:01:44.000 And joining us now is the man behind Rumble.

00:01:47.000 We do a weekly show on Rumble, and we're streaming live right now on Rumble, Chris.

00:01:51.000 It's Chris Pobloski.

00:01:52.000 We have 10,000 concurrents on Rumble, and depends on when we're broadcasting, but sometimes, Chris, we have the number one stream on Rumble, and tonight we're going to do some big numbers.

00:02:00.000 Chris, welcome to the program.

00:02:02.000 Charlie, thanks for having me on.

00:02:04.000 Glad to be here.

00:02:05.000 Chris, you've done a really great job running Rumble and starting it.

00:02:08.000 Just give some backstory.

00:02:09.000 Then let's get into some of the very, very exciting news.

00:02:12.000 You bet.

00:02:13.000 So I started Rumble back in 2013 on the premise of helping the small creators.

00:02:19.000 We started to notice that the incumbent platforms like YouTube were starting to really preference their big channels, big influencers, big corporations.

00:02:29.000 So we came in and said, hey, we're going to start helping the small creators.

00:02:34.000 Fast forward to 2020, late 2020.

00:02:37.000 You had Congressman Devin Nunes join the platform on Rumble.

00:02:41.000 And within two to three months, he had about 200 to 300,000 subscribers on Rumble, whereas on YouTube, he had only 10,000.

00:02:49.000 So think about that.

00:02:50.000 An elected member of Congress in the United States that's sitting, I think at the time, as the chairman of the House Intel Committee only had 10,000 subscribers on YouTube, but comes to Rumble and picks up 200 to 300,000 in only a few months.

00:03:05.000 So once that happened, the floodgates opened up.

00:03:08.000 Dan Bongino came on.

00:03:10.000 You came on and a ton of creators came on taking Rumble to the next level.

00:03:15.000 And that brings us to today.

00:03:16.000 We're now a public company trading on the NASDAQ under ticker R-U-M.

00:03:21.000 And, you know, we've just announced some huge news here yesterday, and we're kind of seeing the benefits of that.

00:03:28.000 So the stock is just going up like crazy.

00:03:31.000 And I hope everyone understands there's finally a competitor against YouTube.

00:03:35.000 Chris, we don't even stream anymore on YouTube, except for some exceptions.

00:03:37.000 We might tonight because of the New Hampshire thing.

00:03:39.000 But largely, we don't stream at all.

00:03:40.000 We're all Rumble all the time.

00:03:42.000 And the traffic is incredible.

00:03:44.000 And the app, I'm sure, is on fire.

00:03:46.000 I mean, the user base, I know that you'll be making some announcements and some big things.

00:03:50.000 I don't want to put you in a spot there, but talk about the announcements.

00:03:53.000 You said something with Barstool.

00:03:55.000 And I mean, again, the stock is up like 75% in the last couple of days, which is just amazing, which is a big deal, everybody, because the way that traditionally, you know, SPACs have, there's a lot, there's a technical thing, D-SPAC, and people sell.

00:04:07.000 And, you know, you're going down, going down.

00:04:09.000 But the fact that you've been able to really go up is to defy gravity against the short sellers in particular.

00:04:14.000 There were a lot of these short sellers and they have to cover right now and they're not very happy.

00:04:18.000 So what's the big announcement, Chris?

00:04:19.000 What's been going on the last couple of days?

00:04:21.000 You guys are wanting more volume being traded on the Rumble stock than Apple and Amazon.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, it's been crazy.

00:04:28.000 So yesterday we announced, yesterday morning, we announced that Barstool Sports, all their podcasts, all their content's coming to Rumble, including Dave Portnoy.

00:04:38.000 And we also announced it's a wide-ranging partnership that's going to have them help us bring brand advertisers to our platform and also utilize our cloud services.

00:04:48.000 So it's very comprehensive and it's very important to us.

00:04:52.000 I was just on Fortnite's show earlier this morning.

00:04:54.000 But the best part about this deal, in my opinion, and I think the biggest part is Dave didn't come to us asking for a ton of money.

00:05:04.000 He came to us wanting more equity than he did cash, like majority equity than he did cash.

00:05:11.000 So having Dave have equity into Rumble and really getting behind Rumble and believing in the long-term vision of this platform was one of the most important things for me.

00:05:21.000 And I'm just super proud to have Barstool Sports on Rumble now, have Dave and Barstool kind of getting behind Rumble.

00:05:29.000 It's the perfect partner and the partner that we need as we're kind of expanding Rumble Sports and getting into different audiences and different demographics.

00:05:37.000 Look, look, Dave has a lot of talent.

00:05:39.000 He's not always my cup of tea, but it's undeniable.

00:05:42.000 This guy is a superpower online.

00:05:44.000 He claims he invented the internet or whatever, but I've never seen somebody so popular.

00:05:48.000 His ability go viral.

00:05:49.000 And I'd say 50% of the time he says something I agree with, but that's okay.

00:05:52.000 I mean, it's about entertainment.

00:05:54.000 So, Chris, what's the vision for Rumble?

00:05:56.000 Because, you know, can you just riff on the short-selling thing?

00:05:59.000 Elon Musk famously back in 2018 had to withstand one of the most aggressive short-selling campaigns in history, and he did it.

00:06:07.000 And those short sellers lost billions.

00:06:09.000 In fact, some people's entire firms went under.

00:06:12.000 You have had to withstand, and it's not over yet, but a similarly sinister short-selling operation.

00:06:19.000 By the way, a different episode for a different time.

00:06:20.000 I don't think short selling should be legal in its current form.

00:06:23.000 I think it's really disastrous to the American economy.

00:06:25.000 These people are awful and they make money off of the suffering of others.

00:06:28.000 In fact, they even manipulate through fake news and all that.

00:06:31.000 Can you riff on that, Chris?

00:06:32.000 I mean, if you can't, that's perfectly fine.

00:06:34.000 I know, but just it's all public.

00:06:36.000 The short sellers, they thought you guys were going down and they've had a really bad week.

00:06:40.000 Yeah.

00:06:41.000 So, you know, in fact, short sellers, in a way, kind of drive me and push me forward in a lot of ways because they're taking bets against me.

00:06:50.000 If they're going to take bets against our 50 million, 58 million active users I've reported in the last quarter that we reported, that's their prerogative.

00:06:59.000 But for me, people, when people do things like that, it only drives me further.

00:07:04.000 It only makes me more hungry.

00:07:06.000 I want to prove them wrong.

00:07:07.000 I'm going to dig in even harder.

00:07:09.000 I'm going to work harder and I'm going to do everything in my power to prove them wrong as much as I possibly can.

00:07:15.000 So if anything, they're just burning a fire under me and getting setting me in, it's setting me into a battle that I really want to have.

00:07:24.000 I love that.

00:07:25.000 And just so everyone understands the way that short selling works, for those of you that are uninitiated, you probably live a nicer life than I do because I look at this stuff, unfortunately, is you're betting for the stock to go down.

00:07:34.000 But if the stock goes up, you have to do something called cover.

00:07:38.000 And so every time the stock goes up, a short becomes less and less valuable.

00:07:42.000 So the fact that they were shorting right when it was at like 380 a share, and now that it is at 642 a share, they're not doing so well.

00:07:51.000 So yeah, riff on that, Chris.

00:07:52.000 Charlie, like they're they're they're betting against me.

00:07:56.000 They're also betting against Dave Portnoy.

00:07:58.000 They're betting against anybody that's against us because we're all trying to drive this company forward.

00:08:02.000 Yes, they're betting against us.

00:08:03.000 They're betting against you too.

00:08:05.000 All of us together.

00:08:06.000 So if that's their prerogative, like that, let's let's let's prove them wrong.

00:08:10.000 That's my goal.

00:08:11.000 I will try my best to prove them wrong and I will fight harder than anyone else out there.

00:08:16.000 And I just want to broaden this a little bit, everybody.

00:08:18.000 We've been bragging on Rumble for quite some time that Rumble is the vessel for free speech.

00:08:25.000 And so when I started to see these shorts, I was a little bit nervous, not for the long-term viability of the company, but it could make the liquidity issues and it could make just confidence and all this.

00:08:34.000 And they were trying to short the free speech movement.

00:08:38.000 I hope everyone understands that.

00:08:40.000 And they're going to be back.

00:08:40.000 Chris, you'll know that.

00:08:42.000 They're like, oh, this is just a sugar high.

00:08:44.000 They'll be back.

00:08:44.000 These serpents and these snakes that have nothing better to do.

00:08:47.000 Imagine if your life is just sitting on a computer wishing for companies to fail. 0.99

00:08:50.000 I think these people are disgusting. 0.97

00:08:52.000 Like go build something. 0.99

00:08:53.000 Okay.

00:08:54.000 But it's real.

00:08:55.000 Can you talk about the long-term vision of Rumble and kind of the philosophy that is driving this wonderful company?

00:09:02.000 You bet.

00:09:02.000 So Rumble is one of the core differences between Rumble and YouTube.

00:09:07.000 And I think this core difference is actually the most important difference is that Rumble's driven by authenticity.

00:09:14.000 So when you're on YouTube, you're worried about the algorithm.

00:09:16.000 You're worried about saying certain things.

00:09:18.000 You're worried about getting banned.

00:09:19.000 You're worried about all different types of factors when you're creating your content.

00:09:22.000 On Rumble, there is no, there is nothing holding you back.

00:09:27.000 You're purely authentic on Rumble.

00:09:28.000 And I think that creates the best content and creates the best video platform and streaming platform.

00:09:35.000 In addition to that, we're now at a stage where we're starting to innovate.

00:09:39.000 We just launched the Rumble Studio today, and I think that's going to change the live streaming game in a massive way.

00:09:45.000 So typically, you know, live streams and videos make money from commercials.

00:09:49.000 But what we're going to be introducing is the ability for endorsements and sponsorships to be able to bid on live streams in real time for creators.

00:10:00.000 So think of you going live and a notification pops up from a huge brand or any brand out there and says, hey, read this for $500.

00:10:08.000 You read it as a live streamer and a creator and that money goes straight into your account.

00:10:12.000 That's what we're doing.

00:10:13.000 We filed a patent for this over the weekend.

00:10:17.000 And it's our very first patent.

00:10:19.000 And it's our first move at really innovating and changing the live stream and video game.

00:10:23.000 On the flip side, we also have built our infrastructure.

00:10:27.000 And we are going to be, we're anticipating to launch the Rumble Cloud by the end of this quarter, which is going to compete directly with Amazon AWS.

00:10:35.000 So I'm like super excited for the prospects of this business, both on the video side and the cloud side.

00:10:41.000 And I can't wait to all these products roll out by the end of the quarter.

00:10:44.000 I just, I have to do this because of all the laws.

00:10:47.000 I own Rumble stock.

00:10:48.000 I'm not recommending people to own it.

00:10:49.000 Just want to make sure all the disclosures are out there.

00:10:51.000 I'm a believer.

00:10:52.000 I love Rumble.

00:10:53.000 I was an early investor in it, and I still own the stock.

00:10:56.000 And just so everyone knows that, you know, any sort of conflict of interest, everybody in the audience, you make your own decision.

00:11:02.000 But I will say this, download the app.

00:11:04.000 Download the app.

00:11:05.000 Chris, thank you so much.

00:11:07.000 Charlie, thank you for having me.

00:11:08.000 Always.

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00:12:14.000 Today is the New Hampshire primary.

00:12:15.000 We might cut actually to Donald Trump Live from New Hampshire.

00:12:19.000 He's going to be doing a press gaggle.

00:12:21.000 So tonight, we're going to find out the voting happens all day.

00:12:24.000 So it's different than an Iowa caucus.

00:12:25.000 It's a traditional one-day primary.

00:12:28.000 In fact, it opened up last night.

00:12:30.000 They do this thing where it's right at midnight.

00:12:33.000 They open it up at this resort town in New Hampshire.

00:12:37.000 And Nikki Haley won all six votes.

00:12:40.000 That's not a great indicator.

00:12:41.000 Back in 2016, Kasich won two votes.

00:12:45.000 I think Trump won three votes.

00:12:46.000 But who knows?

00:12:48.000 This could end up being closer than we think.

00:12:49.000 Okay, let's go to the Donald Trump press gaggle right now, please.

00:12:52.000 It's fair.

00:12:54.000 Okay.

00:12:59.000 I'm very confident.

00:13:00.000 I mean, this is this is we just stopped here.

00:13:03.000 We stopped at a polling site.

00:13:04.000 We picked it at random.

00:13:06.000 We may stop at one more.

00:13:08.000 And nobody knew we were coming.

00:13:09.000 This is pretty amazing.

00:13:10.000 Mr. Buddha.

00:13:11.000 Mr. Rosa wants to win the thing in.

00:13:14.000 I don't care.

00:13:14.000 Is she a threat to you?

00:13:15.000 No, no.

00:13:16.000 And I don't care if she says it. 0.91

00:13:17.000 Let her do whatever she wants.

00:13:19.000 It doesn't matter.

00:13:20.000 I can just say that there's never been a movement like this.

00:13:23.000 Make America Great Again in the history of our country.

00:13:26.000 I just stopped here and I figured I'd see three or four people and maybe walk inside.

00:13:30.000 And you see a crowd like this.

00:13:32.000 And this is organic.

00:13:39.000 Would you consider Debbie?

00:13:41.000 I don't want to comment on that.

00:13:42.000 Would you consider DeSantis an EBP?

00:13:45.000 Would I consider it?

00:13:46.000 Would you ever consider DeSantis?

00:13:47.000 I just can't.

00:13:49.000 What's worse?

00:13:49.000 What's worse, President?

00:13:51.000 I mean, she got that.

00:13:52.000 Do you think it's going to go in her favor at all?

00:13:54.000 I think it hurts her, actually.

00:13:55.000 I think it's going to hurt her.

00:13:58.000 Probably have a big loss today, but who knows?

00:14:00.000 But, you know, the next state is Nevada, where I have 100% because they all pulled out when they looked at the poll.

00:14:06.000 So I have 100%.

00:14:07.000 A lot of delegates, big state.

00:14:08.000 And then I go to South Carolina and I'm beating her by 60 points.

00:14:13.000 So I just don't know.

00:14:15.000 I mean, that's up to her.

00:14:16.000 I would never ask anybody to pull out.

00:14:18.000 I didn't ask Ron to pull out.

00:14:20.000 I didn't ask Vervaek to pull out.

00:14:21.000 Nobody.

00:14:22.000 But we have great support, and most of the people that pulled out have already supported me.

00:14:26.000 So it's actually quite nice.

00:14:28.000 But I'm very honored by this.

00:14:30.000 You know, we expected to come here.

00:14:31.000 And who would think you'd have a crowd like this?

00:14:34.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:14:36.000 President Trump, President Trump, what's your message?

00:14:38.000 What's your message to the American people on the injustice that you're experiencing and the big concern that the election they try to steal it again in 2024?

00:14:47.000 How can people help you stop that?

00:14:49.000 I very much appreciate that question because it's a very important question, more important than most people would understand.

00:14:55.000 We have to make sure we have honest, fair, and free elections and strong borders.

00:14:58.000 If we don't have borders and elections, we don't have a country.

00:15:01.000 And you see what's going on with the border.

00:15:03.000 There's never been anything on the border.

00:15:06.000 Millions and millions of people are pouring into our country illegally, and many come from prisons.

00:15:11.000 They come from jails. 0.92

00:15:13.000 They're terrorists. 0.96

00:15:14.000 Nobody's ever seen it.

00:15:15.000 They come from, by the way, I saw a report this morning.

00:15:18.000 They're coming in from mental institutions all over the world.

00:15:21.000 They're pouring in, and it makes sense.

00:15:23.000 Why would somebody running a country where it costs so much money, why would they keep the people? 0.99

00:15:28.000 They're dumping them into our country. 1.00

00:15:30.000 Mental institutions, jails, and prisons, they're coming into our country, and a lot of terrorists are coming in.

00:15:37.000 This is really bad.

00:15:38.000 I heard somebody yesterday say 100% happened to be Sean Hannity.

00:15:42.000 Did you ever hear of Sean Hannity?

00:15:44.000 He said, 100% certain that there'll be some horrible acts, terror acts, and that's the answer.

00:15:51.000 It's 100%.

00:15:52.000 It's 100%.

00:15:53.000 The people coming into our country, it's 100% certain. 1.00

00:15:57.000 And we have to have fair elections.

00:15:58.000 Thank you for that.

00:16:00.000 I think we're hearing you.

00:16:06.000 The northern border's bad, too.

00:16:08.000 It's getting bad.

00:16:08.000 I think it's getting bad.

00:16:10.000 But now it's lightning out because it's so easy.

00:16:12.000 They don't have to come here.

00:16:14.000 You have to watch both borders.

00:16:16.000 And you have to watch fly-ins.

00:16:18.000 You have to watch everything.

00:16:19.000 But the southern border is like nobody's ever seen.

00:16:22.000 But the northern border is bad too.

00:16:24.000 They have done a terrible job.

00:16:27.000 This is one of the worst things.

00:16:29.000 I believe it's one of the worst tragedies ever to befall our country.

00:16:33.000 I really do.

00:16:33.000 I think it's one of the great tragedies in the history of our country, what they've done.

00:16:38.000 Either they're very stupid, which I don't believe they are, or they hate our country. 1.00

00:16:42.000 It's very simple. 1.00

00:16:44.000 It can be nothing else. 1.00

00:16:45.000 They're very stupid, but they hate our country. 1.00

00:16:48.000 To allow millions of people to come into our country totally unchecked, totally unvetted, it's not even believable. 1.00

00:16:55.000 And it's the biggest issue now.

00:16:57.000 You know, the economy was big and inflation was all big.

00:17:00.000 But this, I think the border issue now is the biggest.

00:17:03.000 We had the greatest border, the safest border in recorded history.

00:17:08.000 In recorded history.

00:17:09.000 And it was three years ago.

00:17:10.000 Now we have the worst.

00:17:12.000 The worst.

00:17:13.000 I think we have the worst border anywhere in the world.

00:17:15.000 I don't think any country, a third world country, never had a border like this.

00:17:19.000 For people that might not have their mind made up tonight or today going to those polls, they might be deciding between you and Nikki Healy.

00:17:24.000 So what would you want to tell those voters?

00:17:26.000 Look, if they want a great country, if they want a country where we say, make America great again, there's nothing like make America great again.

00:17:33.000 That's all you have to say.

00:17:34.000 I'm going to analyze this.

00:17:35.000 He's in fighting form.

00:17:37.000 This is a guy that's ready to win a general election.

00:17:40.000 He's exactly on message, 100% on message.

00:17:43.000 Excellent.

00:17:45.000 Hey, everybody.

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00:17:55.000 If you waited for the interest rate to go down, you would not have purchased a home until 1993.

00:18:00.000 Renting for 22 years while you waited.

00:18:03.000 In the meantime, the value of real estate quadrupled.

00:18:06.000 Don't wait to buy real estate.

00:18:07.000 Marry the house, not the rate.

00:18:08.000 You could always refinance everybody.

00:18:10.000 Take advantage of the slower market now, and you can, again, refinance when rates go down.

00:18:16.000 Once rates start dropping, the frenzy will start all over again.

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00:18:51.000 Interest rates, they're signaling that they're going to go down, but don't wait.

00:18:55.000 The price of real estate very well might continue to go up.

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00:19:04.000 Joining us now is Ken Cuccinelli.

00:19:07.000 Ken ran a lot of the border and immigration stuff under Donald Trump.

00:19:12.000 He's here to react to the Supreme Court's decision.

00:19:16.000 Ken, welcome to the program.

00:19:17.000 Walk us through the invasion clause and how we have reached a point where the U.S. Supreme Court is siding with the American government that says we shall have no border.

00:19:28.000 Yeah, so the invasion clause or self-defense clause is in the very last paragraph of Article 1.

00:19:36.000 And I'd urge the people watching and listening to you and I to pull up the Constitution, read it yourself.

00:19:42.000 Article 1, Section 10, there are three paragraphs.

00:19:46.000 It's in the last paragraph.

00:19:48.000 And this is, you've probably heard it called the Compacts Clause.

00:19:51.000 This is the paragraph that lists all the things that states are not allowed to do without Congress's permission.

00:20:01.000 One of them, not surprisingly, is wage war.

00:20:04.000 But that one has an exception for states when they are actually invaded.

00:20:10.000 When they're actually invaded, they can protect themselves.

00:20:13.000 And that's what Texas is doing.

00:20:15.000 But it's not quite that simple, Charlie, because Texas to this day is reluctant to fully embrace the self-defense rights that it retained as a state under Article 1, Section 10.

00:20:30.000 Now, I get that people are uncomfortable with the notion of using war powers.

00:20:35.000 That doesn't mean rolling tanks and planes into Mexico and bombing bridges.

00:20:40.000 It simply means using those powers, in this case, at a very low level of force.

00:20:46.000 You just stop people and physically bring them back and put them into Mexico. 0.98

00:20:51.000 Texas has so far refused to put people back into Mexico.

00:20:55.000 They're trying to block people from getting in.

00:20:57.000 But until they do that and illegal invaders know they can't get into Texas, then they will keep coming to Texas, especially with a federal government that's doing everything that can to break them in.

00:21:11.000 So I was disappointed to see the Supreme Court ruling.

00:21:14.000 I will tell you, as you know, I'm a senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America.

00:21:20.000 We filed an amicus brief today in the underlying Fifth Circuit case that is still addressing this question.

00:21:30.000 There was no opinion issued by the Supreme Court yesterday.

00:21:35.000 They simply, so effectively, they just said, no, we're lifting the ban on the federal government taking action, in this case, cutting razor wire, until the case is heard.

00:21:51.000 To say we're not dead yet, it would be an understatement.

00:21:56.000 But now is the time for Texas to really step up and embrace its constitutional authority to defend itself.

00:22:03.000 So what does that look like?

00:22:07.000 Sorry, let me interject for a second here.

00:22:09.000 What does that look like?

00:22:10.000 Does that mean they should just ignore whatever the Supreme Court did yesterday?

00:22:13.000 Is that what you're recommending?

00:22:15.000 Well, so yesterday just allows the Border Patrol to cut razor wire.

00:22:20.000 It doesn't say anything about Texas authorities under the authority of the governor.

00:22:24.000 He's the commander in chief of that state's forces returning people who are invading that country back to Mexico. 0.99

00:22:32.000 The only exception to what I'm saying is that the 12 land ports of entry, these are the 12 places on the Texas-Mexico border that you can legally cross into the United States from Mexico.

00:22:48.000 Other than those 12 spots, Texas ought to block people from entering anywhere else.

00:22:56.000 And if they do, Texas, without asking permission of Congress or the federal government, should take them back into Mexico.

00:23:04.000 Texas owns boats, take them back across, drop them off.

00:23:08.000 Once this happens reliably, even Mexico will get into the game of stopping people from coming because they're not going to end up in the United States.

00:23:18.000 They're going to end up in Mexico. 0.93

00:23:21.000 So that, yeah, that's clarifying, Ken.

00:23:24.000 I want to, I want to just speak more broadly.

00:23:27.000 You've been covering the border.

00:23:28.000 You're a border expert.

00:23:30.000 Has there ever been a point in American history where the federal government actively undermines what is obviously in the immediate interest of the country and then goes to court to defend it?

00:23:42.000 I'm failing to find any example in the last century where it's something this grotesque.

00:23:48.000 So certainly nothing this grotesque.

00:23:51.000 The closest thing you could find to it would be the Obama administration, things like the DACA program.

00:23:57.000 Sure.

00:23:57.000 But this is worse, though.

00:23:58.000 This is worse than I mean.

00:23:59.000 But it is worse.

00:24:01.000 The Obama administration looks like a warm-up here.

00:24:04.000 Yes.

00:24:04.000 And this is an active effort.

00:24:07.000 What you and I look at the border and we see a disaster.

00:24:11.000 But what people need to realize is this is intentional policy by Joe Biden.

00:24:17.000 It's why he nominated Alejandro Mayorkas to be the Secretary of Homeland Security because Alejandro Mayorkas is an open borders radical.

00:24:27.000 He is doing what he believes.

00:24:29.000 Now, Border Patrol agents believe they should execute their mission.

00:24:34.000 ICE agents believe they should deport people who are here illegally.

00:24:39.000 And their own administration is stopping them from doing their job and performing their mission.

00:24:45.000 Charlie, one of the things that hasn't been reported on very much, and I encountered it on Christmas Day of all things, is the higher suicide rates in the Border Patrol because of how low their morale is.

00:25:00.000 I had two CBP employees come up to me in church on Christmas to tell me about this and to lament it.

00:25:08.000 And I told them that I and others are praying for them and for their colleagues.

00:25:13.000 These are folks who want to protect you and me and America, and they're being stopped from doing that by Joe Biden and Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:22.000 And so let's get together a battle plan.

00:25:25.000 One of the ways that I read the Amy Coney Barrett disappointment decision is the presidency matters more than ever before.

00:25:32.000 And honestly, I don't want it that way.

00:25:35.000 I don't want it where the entire civilization is dependent on the outcome of a presidential election because the will of the people is actually telling us, hey, we want red state AGs and red state legislature.

00:25:45.000 So it's just, you shouldn't have just an executive one election that determines something so broadly.

00:25:52.000 So I think that's really upsetting, honestly.

00:25:55.000 And just like, can you comment on that?

00:25:57.000 The civilization shouldn't survive or die based on who wins the Electoral College.

00:26:02.000 So, Charlie, that's a very deep observation.

00:26:05.000 I certainly agree with it.

00:26:07.000 Years ago, when I was Attorney General of Virginia, my communications director, Brian Gottstein, who's now at the Heritage Foundation, he made a really good point to me.

00:26:19.000 He said, look, you know, we talk about how people fight over these government races like it's life and death because it is.

00:26:26.000 I know, it's sad.

00:26:28.000 It shouldn't be that way.

00:26:29.000 I know.

00:26:30.000 It shouldn't be that way.

00:26:31.000 Well, so there's a solution, and that is to strip government.

00:26:34.000 Of course, this will have to happen by elected officials, of much of its power.

00:26:38.000 A balanced budget requirement would do a lot of this because it would reduce the power of the government.

00:26:44.000 There wouldn't be as much to fight over.

00:26:47.000 We would be left to ourselves as Americans, and we do better than anybody else in the world when we're unleashed and on our own to succeed, not just for ourselves, but to better the world around us.

00:26:59.000 So you're absolutely right about that.

00:27:01.000 What we're seeing here is a symptom of that.

00:27:04.000 But until we are required to balance the budget and until we're committed to a smaller government, it's going to be hard to get there.

00:27:13.000 I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:27:15.000 I just saw it today.

00:27:15.000 Apparently, it was going viral yesterday, but I'm guessing our audience hasn't fully saturated our audience yet.

00:27:21.000 This is a Middle Eastern man bragging into a camera on the southern border, saying, and I want to make sure I get the wording, something to the effect of, you will know my name.

00:27:29.000 Everyone will know my name.

00:27:31.000 And again, that speculation doesn't, like, he's talking as if he's going to go shoot up a school or blow up a hospital.

00:27:38.000 God forbid.

00:27:39.000 Play cut 50.

00:27:42.000 By the way, if you are smart enough, you would know who I am.

00:27:45.000 But you are really not smart enough to know who I am.

00:27:48.000 But soon you're going to know who I am.

00:27:50.000 Wow.

00:27:51.000 Very easy.

00:27:52.000 The entitlement.

00:27:53.000 The entitlement.

00:27:55.000 No, believe me.

00:27:55.000 I'm much better than that.

00:27:57.000 The entitlement, guys.

00:27:59.000 Wow.

00:28:00.000 This is a Middle Eastern man saying in a heavy Arabic or Farsi-filled accent, soon you will know who I am.

00:28:08.000 He's not some poor Lupita Mañana from Honduras.

00:28:11.000 This is a guy from the Middle East, fighting age male.

00:28:15.000 I mean, you have to wonder, is this guy taking pilot lessons?

00:28:17.000 I don't know.

00:28:18.000 I mean, what is this guy doing?

00:28:19.000 So, Ken, he probably got a cell phone, cash, and a ticket to the interior of the United States.

00:28:25.000 So, absolutely, all paid for courtesy of Joe Biden.

00:28:28.000 But, God help you if you try to get out of a war zone and get the government to help you do that.

00:28:32.000 Look at Gaza. 0.86

00:28:34.000 It's 17 years since Gaza has, the Gazans have been running Gaza. 0.98

00:28:42.000 The entire 17 years, they didn't perform virtually any government services.

00:28:47.000 Every dollar they got, every bit of humanitarian aid they got went into preparing for the terrorist attack on Israel that we saw on October 7th.

00:28:58.000 That was 17 years.

00:29:00.000 We are going to be paying the price for people like that coming across our border for decades to come. 1.00

00:29:07.000 And the worst ones of all, undoubtedly, are the ones that aren't in the numbers and aren't even spotted as gotaways because they're, you know, you don't worry as much about the stupid ones as you do about the smart ones. 0.99

00:29:22.000 And we have a lot to contend with. 0.97

00:29:26.000 We will never for decades flush these security threats out of our system.

00:29:31.000 I mean, that's just the reality of what Joe Biden is doing to America.

00:29:34.000 Realize their goal is to undermine America, to undermine our sovereignty. 0.63

00:29:38.000 Of course, to destroy it all.

00:29:39.000 Who have control of the left in this agenda loathe what America stands for, and they are attempting to erase it.

00:29:47.000 And erasing the border is one part of that.

00:29:50.000 That's right.

00:29:50.000 They're actively replacing us, and we must say that repeatedly and clearly.

00:29:54.000 I said, quote, there's a border invasion, and native-born Americans, you better buy weapons, everybody. 0.94

00:29:59.000 Have a lot of guns at your disposal.

00:30:00.000 I don't like talking that way.

00:30:02.000 But when I see Middle Eastern men saying, you're going to know me, everyone's going to know me, you better have an AR-15 at your disposal in your home because this is not playtime. 1.00

00:30:09.000 Playtime is over.

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00:31:15.000 Ken, can you riff on the NGOs, the outside organizations that are facilitating this, specifically Catholic charities?

00:31:23.000 And making money off of it.

00:31:26.000 So they essentially, in the guise of charity, they take money from the government that pays them to house or resettle.

00:31:39.000 There's a whole variety of things they do.

00:31:41.000 And they bypass immigration. 0.59

00:31:45.000 enforcement.

00:31:46.000 They do all those kinds of things.

00:31:48.000 And if I could, because I am Catholic and the Catholic charity, there is a paragraph.

00:31:56.000 You hear, I had this thrown at me religiously when I was helping try to tighten up on illegal immigration in the Trump administration.

00:32:06.000 Oh, you know, you're not a good Catholic, blah. 1.00

00:32:08.000 There is a paragraph in the Catholic Catechism that addresses immigration.

00:32:13.000 There is one paragraph, and it says two things.

00:32:16.000 One, and I'm crushing this down for time.

00:32:20.000 Rich nations should be generous in their immigration policies, and immigrants should respect the laws and customs of the nations they wish to enter.

00:32:32.000 Well, America is the most generous country on the planet when it comes to legal immigration.

00:32:41.000 We have been for a long, long time.

00:32:45.000 But none of the people we're talking about when we're talking about the invasion of Texas, which is just one part of the invasion of our southern border, they're not respecting the laws or customs of this country.

00:32:58.000 So people who want to take a religious view of it, I know everybody watching isn't Catholic.

00:33:03.000 I invite you to become Catholic.

00:33:05.000 I'm happy to chat with you about that.

00:33:07.000 But we're not crazy, and the faith applied in the world correctly isn't crazy.

00:33:16.000 And America, frankly, fits with it, even while these NGOs are being attacked and you have the, I'm sorry, are facilitating the attack on our country.

00:33:27.000 And they're facilitating people violating our laws and our customs.

00:33:31.000 And they're being paid by the Biden administration to do it.

00:33:34.000 And they're being paid handsomely, frankly.

00:33:38.000 One of the counters to this you're starting to see, and they're doing this in Florida, Texas.

00:33:46.000 They're looking at licensing these entities insofar as they're trafficking in children, for example.

00:33:53.000 They don't let them house children.

00:33:55.000 You have to be licensed in the state to do that.

00:33:57.000 So they're using state licensing and oversight to interdict what amounts to government-sponsored human trafficking by the NGOs.

00:34:09.000 So this is a very complicated level of this contest.

00:34:13.000 I appreciate you bringing it up.

00:34:14.000 People should be aware of it.

00:34:16.000 And there is a big difference between being the most generous nation in the world, which America is and continues to be, and being moronically accepting of people violating our laws by the millions and staying outside of our legal system.

00:34:34.000 And we have a party, the Democrat Party, that believes they get political advantage of this. 0.86

00:34:39.000 I don't believe they do.

00:34:42.000 Republicans are doing better and better, for example, with Hispanic voters who make up the vast majority of this illegal flow. 1.00

00:34:50.000 So there isn't necessarily political advantage to the Democrats, but they ideologically believe there is.

00:34:57.000 And so they press ahead because truth is no impediment to these people.

00:35:02.000 Well, but it's also important to remember, Ken.

00:35:04.000 And they don't care about the harm.

00:35:06.000 Well, yeah, I mean, it's demographic replacement, but also this is not just Middle.

00:35:10.000 This is Middle Eastern people.

00:35:11.000 This is all over the world.

00:35:13.000 And those people vote way, way less.

00:35:16.000 Yeah, I mean, you have people from Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan and from China.

00:35:20.000 And this is not just a Honduras-Guatemalan thing.

00:35:23.000 We are the dumping ground of the planet.

00:35:25.000 The entire planet is sending their trash to America, and we have to take it because, oh, you know, diversity is our strength.

00:35:32.000 Yeah, so Venezuela is doing that. 0.84

00:35:34.000 You'll remember the Mariel boat lift in Cuba where because Jimmy Carter, one of the worst presidents we've ever had, was willing to accept anybody hitting Florida, Castro emptied his jails into Florida.

00:35:50.000 And we suffered for that for decades.

00:35:53.000 Well, Venezuela is doing the same thing now.

00:35:56.000 And you can bet that other countries are as well.

00:35:59.000 They're happy to let their refuse roll our way.

00:36:03.000 And it is a highway for gangs, MS-13, for example, and the most vicious, evil people in the Western hemisphere.

00:36:12.000 They don't mean well.

00:36:13.000 This is not some sort of, you know, oh, this is wonderful.

00:36:16.000 They are coming and they're going to commit crimes.

00:36:18.000 And there very might be sleeper cells in a neighborhood near you brought to you by Joe Biden.

00:36:22.000 Ken, great job.

00:36:22.000 Thank you so much.

00:36:23.000 Appreciate it.

00:36:24.000 Good to be with you.

00:36:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:27.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 23, 2024

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