The Charlie Kirk Show - July 28, 2020


Sean Hannity | Live Free or Die—America and the World on the Brink

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In this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Sean Hannity sits down with a hero of his, former radio host Charlie Kirk, to discuss his new book, Live Free or Die, and why the 2020 election is truly a referendum on the left.

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00:00:08.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:09.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:12.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:15.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:18.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:19.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:20.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:27.000 Turning point USA.
00:00:29.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:37.000 That's why we are here.
00:00:39.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:40.000 Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:43.000 I am just so thrilled and honored to have a hero of mine, someone that I actually got into conservatism largely because of Sean Hannity.
00:00:52.000 Sean, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:54.000 All right, first of all, you're the rock star.
00:00:57.000 I'm really proud of all the work you're doing.
00:00:59.000 That blows me away because all my life and career, I've talked about all the guys that literally helped lift me up and supported me when I was starting out.
00:01:08.000 And if not for people like you, Charlie, and the work you're doing every day, seriously, from inside the deepest part and crevices of my heart, it is so good to see young people that understand the moment, understand what's at stake, understand that this is about a great country that we can preserve together.
00:01:31.000 And you know what?
00:01:32.000 It's an honor to be with you.
00:01:33.000 I'm proud of all your success.
00:01:34.000 I'm very honored to be on with you.
00:01:36.000 Well, thank you.
00:01:37.000 I got my start in politics listening to you on AM560, The Answer, on your radio show.
00:01:43.000 You know that local radio station.
00:01:46.000 But Sean, it's such a thrill to have you.
00:01:47.000 So you have a book coming out, Live Free or Die, your first book in 10 years.
00:01:52.000 Why now?
00:01:53.000 Well, first, I swore I'd never write another one because I've done three and they're just way too much work.
00:01:58.000 And congrats on your number one New York Times bestseller.
00:02:03.000 It's the moment, to be very blunt.
00:02:06.000 I kind of started it over a year ago, and then I got delayed because of, you know, the silent assassin epidemic, as we call it.
00:02:15.000 And so I wanted to make it as current as possible.
00:02:19.000 And I just, I see what has emerged, and it's actually even worse than I thought when I was writing it.
00:02:26.000 And the moment is really simple.
00:02:29.000 If Joe Biden, who's now aligned himself with the most radical elements, far-left elements in this country, said the police are the enemy.
00:02:39.000 And of course, he'd reappropriate.
00:02:41.000 That means DeFondi wants to say it a little differently.
00:02:44.000 He's adopted and literally plagiarized Bernie Sanders' economic agenda, radical socialism.
00:02:52.000 Then he co-opted AOC's Green New Deal and he's pledging trillions of dollars.
00:02:56.000 Then he wants Beto, I call him Bozo O'Rourke.
00:02:59.000 You know, he wants Bozo's gun confiscation plan.
00:03:02.000 His guns are.
00:03:04.000 And then I also look at what he's saying he's going to do to the country, his plan.
00:03:09.000 And you have Schumer Pelosi and Biden, 125 years, Charlie Kirk of failure, unmitigated failure, swamp failure.
00:03:19.000 And I think of my kids.
00:03:21.000 You met my son.
00:03:23.000 He's 21 years old.
00:03:24.000 My daughter's 18. 0.88
00:03:25.000 And I would think about your America, their America.
00:03:28.000 And when I say, you know, live free or die, America and the world on the brink, I'm not joking.
00:03:34.000 And very specifically, it will be probably the biggest choice election by far in my lifetime, and maybe since 1860.
00:03:44.000 And, you know, there's a lot at stake.
00:03:46.000 We can go through the issues if you want, but there's not one issue we agree on that I can think of for the most part.
00:03:53.000 Yeah, and you wrote this, and it just really sent chills down my spine.
00:03:56.000 You wrote this book to sound an alarm as a warning to my fellow patriots about the left's undying commitment to turn America into a land our parents, founders, and framers wouldn't recognize.
00:04:08.000 It's perfectly put.
00:04:10.000 And that's the direction that they're headed.
00:04:11.000 On page 27, you have a great part about how Ben Franklin says, we have a republic if you can keep it.
00:04:18.000 Can you talk more about how this truly is a referendum election in some sense and what the left is trying to do to our country?
00:04:25.000 Well, the story about Franklin is interesting because it's the Constitutional Convention.
00:04:31.000 And somebody says, as he comes out one day, is it a monarchy?
00:04:34.000 Is it a republic?
00:04:36.000 Republic if you can keep it.
00:04:37.000 Reagan, I quote him often when I give speeches, said, freedom, Charlie, and you know this is but one generation away from extinction.
00:04:46.000 And, you know, if you want to understand, if socialism is adopted, if their stated goal is adopted, America as we know it then becomes unrecognizable.
00:05:00.000 Look, I can understand psychologically there's a component of maybe people that have been indoctrinated in schools, and you are great at this because you're going into hostile environments every day, and you're saying, you know what, there's another way of thinking here.
00:05:15.000 So maybe the idea that people think, Charlie, that some things are, oh, everything's going to be free and they're going to forgive my loans and I'll have a guaranteed government job, guaranteed government food.
00:05:25.000 How did Obamacare work out?
00:05:26.000 Now we're going to have Medicare for all or double down on the stupidity of Obamacare and guaranteed retirement, guaranteed vacation. 0.99
00:05:34.000 Sounds great. 0.98
00:05:35.000 But simple math shows you that you'll never get there.
00:05:38.000 And that's why in the fourth chapter of the book, I did this whole history of socialism, which is a history of failure.
00:05:44.000 The point is, look at the issues.
00:05:48.000 If we're talking about law and order, they've sided in Portland and in Seattle and New York and Chicago with the radicals.
00:05:57.000 Joe Biden is yet that I know of said one good thing about the 99% of cops that protect and serve and put their lives on the line for us every day.
00:06:05.000 You're right.
00:06:06.000 Okay, so law and order, taxes, he's pledging to raise your taxes through the roof.
00:06:10.000 That'll destroy the economy.
00:06:13.000 They're going to just add all the bureaucracy that Donald Trump spent almost four years eliminating.
00:06:18.000 That'll be gone.
00:06:19.000 That means nobody's going to want to do business.
00:06:21.000 That's why the Biden-Obama economy was so bad.
00:06:24.000 Then you look at we're now energy independent for the first time in 75 years.
00:06:28.000 We're the number one producer of energy in the world.
00:06:31.000 We'll lose that for sure.
00:06:33.000 We'll shut down coal, fracking, oil, gas, exploration production.
00:06:38.000 Those are tens of millions of jobs, high-paying jobs, career jobs for people.
00:06:42.000 Then it's about amnesty or the United Sanctuary States of America versus border security and law and order.
00:06:51.000 Never mind foreign policy.
00:06:52.000 We haven't even touched that part yet.
00:06:54.000 So there's a lot at stake.
00:06:57.000 If those plans, stated plans are implemented, America will go down the path, you know, the trash bin of history.
00:07:04.000 As Reagan said, freedom one generation away from extinction.
00:07:08.000 We will, I shudder to think what will happen for you and your children and my kids and maybe one day grandkids.
00:07:17.000 Although I don't know if I'm ready for that.
00:07:19.000 Well, I love the framing because as the founder said, either we're going to live free and defend it right now, or we're going to have a country that we don't want to live in.
00:07:26.000 And that's really the framing that is so important right now.
00:07:29.000 And you talk about, and I'm really pleased about this, Sean, because I think we have forgotten about the Russia hoax too quickly in the conservative movement.
00:07:37.000 You have been the leader on this.
00:07:39.000 Every night you were covering it.
00:07:40.000 You didn't let us forget.
00:07:42.000 You held Mueller accountable.
00:07:44.000 You had investigative journalism.
00:07:45.000 And it just seemed that, and I'm not going to say any names, but other conservatives just kind of drifted away from it.
00:07:50.000 Like, oh, that's what happened, happened.
00:07:51.000 You have two chapters on this in the book.
00:07:53.000 Can you talk about that?
00:07:55.000 Yeah, I mean, I call it, Charlie, the biggest corruption abuse of power scandal in history.
00:08:01.000 And the Ukraine was, oh, okay, we failed with Mueller after three years.
00:08:07.000 We won't even bother with a special prosecutor.
00:08:09.000 Now, I'm going backwards here, but to get to Ukraine, you know, they're talking about quid and pros and quos, but you have to ignore their presidential candidate on video saying, you're not getting a billion U.S. taxpayer dollars unless you fire that prosecutor, his name is Shokin, who is investigating my son Hunter, who went on GMA and said, Do you have any experience in oil?
00:08:34.000 Nope.
00:08:34.000 Gas?
00:08:35.000 Nope.
00:08:36.000 Energy?
00:08:36.000 Nope.
00:08:37.000 Any experience in Ukraine?
00:08:39.000 Nope.
00:08:39.000 Why are you being paid millions?
00:08:41.000 I don't know.
00:08:42.000 Because of your dad.
00:08:44.000 So there was the quid and pro and quo, and millions of dollars for the Biden, I call it crime family.
00:08:50.000 That's exactly right. 0.61
00:08:51.000 So listen, China's even worse. 1.00
00:08:54.000 You get to this whole thing.
00:08:56.000 What we now know, and I believe what's coming, it's like, and this is where the media is corrupt because they're just the propaganda wing of all things Democratic socialists.
00:09:07.000 But we now know and have all the evidence that we'd ever need is that they protected their favorite candidate, Hillary Clinton, for things you and I and everybody that follows you and you have a massive audience would literally never get away with.
00:09:25.000 If you had subpoenaed emails, Charlie Kirk, and you decided to delete them and you decided to acid wash your hard drive with something I had never heard about, bleach pit, and bust up your devices with hammers, you would go to jail.
00:09:39.000 If you violated the Espionage Act, you'd go to jail.
00:09:42.000 They protected her.
00:09:43.000 Then the narrative began.
00:09:44.000 We now know it began in August.
00:09:46.000 We know crossfire hurricane representatives actually went to brief President Trump and General Flynn on national security, but they were there to try and get information on Trump and Russia.
00:09:58.000 The most amazing part of this, because the Democrats and the media lied for all these years, is that they knew and they said and they wrote and they even testified there was never any evidence.
00:10:11.000 But there was a dirty Russian dossier.
00:10:14.000 And now we know even the New York Times acknowledged full of Russian disinformation.
00:10:19.000 And that was used, and they were warned not to use it.
00:10:23.000 But high-ranking people abusing their power, wanting to take out candidate Trump, then transition Team Trump, and then deep into the presidency of Donald Trump.
00:10:31.000 They used the dirty Russian misinformation dossier to ruin Carter Page's life and ruin his civil liberties and constitutional rights, but more importantly, to spy on candidate Trump.
00:10:43.000 And then they had their insurance policy.
00:10:45.000 The fact that the mob and the media ignores it is beyond any comprehension I have.
00:10:50.000 So I have two chapters.
00:10:52.000 One is on the Russia hoax, and the other is on this whole impeachment witch hunt.
00:10:57.000 And I want everybody in your audience to understand one thing here.
00:11:00.000 If I can get one point across, yeah, they hate Donald Trump, but they hate us more.
00:11:06.000 They think we are, as Peter Strzok said, the smell.
00:11:10.000 By the way, I proudly shop at Walmart.
00:11:12.000 I save money at Walmart.
00:11:13.000 Why not shop at Walmart?
00:11:14.000 I love Walmart.
00:11:15.000 I love Costco's.
00:11:16.000 I love Tar.
00:11:17.000 I love it all.
00:11:19.000 And I've shopped there my whole life.
00:11:20.000 I mean, people always stop me when I'm in a grocery store.
00:11:23.000 What are you doing here?
00:11:24.000 Shopping?
00:11:24.000 Why?
00:11:25.000 I like to eat.
00:11:26.000 It cracks me up.
00:11:27.000 So, but think about that.
00:11:29.000 Smelly Walmart shoppers? 0.99
00:11:31.000 Wow.
00:11:32.000 Irredeemable deplorables?
00:11:34.000 Wow. 1.00
00:11:35.000 Bitter Americans, as Obama said, that want to cling to their God. 1.00
00:11:39.000 I'm guilty. 1.00
00:11:40.000 Their Second Amendment rights, guilty. 1.00
00:11:42.000 Bibles and religion, I'm guilty of that too. 0.98
00:11:45.000 But it's contempt for your audience.
00:11:47.000 It's contempt for my audience.
00:11:49.000 It's because they knew better.
00:11:51.000 And they were willing.
00:11:54.000 This was an attempted coup.
00:11:56.000 Now, do I think there's going to be arrests and prosecutions?
00:12:00.000 I do.
00:12:00.000 It's been much slower than any of us would have liked, but the evidence is overwhelming.
00:12:04.000 It's incontrovertible.
00:12:05.000 Sad, actually, that this could happen.
00:12:07.000 That was going to be my follow-up question, Sean, because when I travel and we get thousands of emails a month on this topic, when are people going to go to jail?
00:12:16.000 And can you give any insight on this?
00:12:18.000 Can you give us any clues, any crumbs that we're starting to see from Durham?
00:12:22.000 I call them, it's funny you say crumbs because I call them the Attorney General Bar breadcrumbs.
00:12:28.000 It's like Ansel and Greta.
00:12:29.000 I don't know if you remember.
00:12:30.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:32.000 We're trying to follow and see the trail.
00:12:34.000 Exactly.
00:12:34.000 Yeah.
00:12:35.000 He did say that the president was spied on.
00:12:38.000 It did happen illegally.
00:12:42.000 Think about this.
00:12:43.000 If you go before Judge Judy, I wouldn't want to lie. 0.99
00:12:47.000 Because Judge Judy, I've met her once. 1.00
00:12:49.000 She'll eviscerate you. 1.00
00:12:50.000 I've watched her show.
00:12:51.000 You don't go before a court with information that you have not verified.
00:12:56.000 It actually said at the top of a Pfizer warrant, Charlie, it says verified.
00:13:00.000 Okay.
00:13:01.000 We now know that dossier was unverifiable.
00:13:03.000 The sub-source we now know said, this was bar talk.
00:13:08.000 We were making this up.
00:13:09.000 This was never meant for anything. 0.99
00:13:10.000 And again, Hillary paid for it, funneled money, separate issue.
00:13:14.000 And so what is going to happen?
00:13:16.000 I don't have a crystal ball, but I do know all of the facts that are in the public are enough to indict many of the names that your audience is most familiar with.
00:13:27.000 I would argue Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page.
00:13:32.000 I'd like to know what Clapper and Brennan's role in all of this ends up being and others.
00:13:38.000 The more fascinating, deep question is: will they get to that January 5th, 2017 meeting inside the Oval Office?
00:13:46.000 This is when, remember, Biden said to George Stephanopoulos, oh, I don't know anything about this, you know, this whole impeachment Russia thing.
00:13:55.000 He was the one saying, bring up the Logan Act.
00:13:57.000 15 days later, Susan Rice in that meeting did the CYA memo the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated.
00:14:03.000 Obama in that meeting shocked Sally Yates by saying he knew everything about the Kisley Act Michael Flynn call.
00:14:13.000 If we, look, to sum it up, I think we're going to get there because the evidence is that overwhelming.
00:14:20.000 If we don't, I fear for the country.
00:14:24.000 Because if you're going to raid Manafort's home pre-dawn raid and you're going to raid Roger Stone's home for lying to Congress, by the way, many of the names I mentioned were referred for the same crime.
00:14:37.000 And you're going to pull 29 guys in tactical gear, frogmen, and tip-off CNN cameras, and then have a biased jury four-person.
00:14:45.000 We won't have equal justice and equal application of our laws.
00:14:49.000 And worse than that, Charlie, is we lose our Constitution.
00:14:52.000 Because all our laws are predicated on that great document.
00:14:52.000 Yes.
00:14:56.000 It's imperfect, but it creates the path to perfection and a more perfect union.
00:15:01.000 So I give long answers.
00:15:03.000 I'm a talk showist.
00:15:04.000 No, this is what our audience needs to hear.
00:15:04.000 I love it.
00:15:06.000 And thank you for that.
00:15:07.000 And look, I completely agree because if we do not have people, and I say this as carefully as I can, in handcuffs for what they did to Donald Trump, then I will lose faith in the American justice system.
00:15:18.000 I don't want that.
00:15:19.000 And I don't want revenge.
00:15:20.000 I don't want retribution.
00:15:21.000 I want people to be held accountable.
00:15:22.000 And I would want the same if someone did this to Barack Obama because it should never happen to a leader, ever.
00:15:35.000 Yes.
00:15:36.000 And they've gone after every single Trump friend, confidant, and yet if you oppose Donald Trump, you get different treatment.
00:15:42.000 You talk a lot about the Constitution in your book and the founding of our country.
00:15:46.000 Sean, I'm going to be honest.
00:15:47.000 I've been very let down by some of these Supreme Court decisions lately.
00:15:51.000 Can you comment on that and the importance to get more people like Kavanaugh, who's actually ruled brilliantly, unlike John Roberts?
00:16:02.000 I don't know what's happened to Roberts.
00:16:04.000 I have my theory.
00:16:05.000 I have my guess.
00:16:06.000 I have my sources, people that have their own ideas based on some knowledge.
00:16:12.000 For whatever reason, and I think this goes back to the Obamacare decision, he has allowed how the court appears to influence his decision-making.
00:16:25.000 I also sense with no evidence whatsoever, he's not a big fan of President Trump.
00:16:31.000 But that should not come into his thinking.
00:16:34.000 Now, if getting rid of bureaucracy and lowering taxes and energy independence and securing our borders and law and order are all part of this election, let me tell you another big part of it.
00:16:48.000 And it's, you know, we're taping this 90-whatever days away from the election day.
00:16:53.000 What about, and we got to ask this question, what about the Supreme Court?
00:16:57.000 Yes.
00:16:57.000 I go through a whole list.
00:16:59.000 I forget what page, maybe it's 67, I forget.
00:17:02.000 A whole list in the book of all the things Democrats would do if they get in power.
00:17:07.000 One is they want to stack the courts, get rid of the Electoral College.
00:17:11.000 And what they're saying they want to do is scary.
00:17:16.000 They used to hide it, Charlie.
00:17:18.000 You know, when every single liberal Democrat ever running for office, they would run to the left in the primary.
00:17:26.000 They'd race back to the center, but you knew they wanted the left.
00:17:30.000 They're now openly embracing the most radical elements in the country.
00:17:34.000 And, you know, unfortunately, we're watching it all play out nightly on TV.
00:17:38.000 And it's sad what I see happening.
00:17:41.000 Well, I think we have to remind Trump supporters that these are not Trump-appointed justices.
00:17:46.000 Gorsuch, I think, ruled incorrectly on one ruling.
00:17:48.000 That's it.
00:17:49.000 Besides that, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh have been tremendous and terrific versus Roberts.
00:17:53.000 I just think we have to give the audience a sense of continued conviction that the Trump-appointed justices will continue to rule correctly.
00:18:01.000 And Clarence Thomas, and you know the Thomas family, they get no credit at all.
00:18:06.000 I mean, what he has done, and can you comment on that?
00:18:08.000 Because you've actually been, you opened my eyes to that like eight years ago.
00:18:12.000 And I never even learned about Clarence Thomas as a high schooler until you first mentioned it.
00:18:16.000 Just as a quick aside on his incredible career.
00:18:19.000 I'd like to do on TV, and I do it on radio too sometimes.
00:18:22.000 I call it the Hannity History Lesson because I lived through all of this.
00:18:25.000 I know this is going to, you're not even 33, but my radio journey started in 1987.
00:18:31.000 Crazy, right?
00:18:32.000 I'm now in my 25th year at Fox.
00:18:35.000 I didn't think I'd last two.
00:18:37.000 So I feel very blessed.
00:18:39.000 As a side note, if you haven't read My Grandfather's Son, which is about Clarence Thomas's life, oh, it's amazing.
00:18:48.000 But, you know, it's interesting because him and Scalia were, to my opinion, my two most favorite justices in my lifetime.
00:18:57.000 Scalia, this incredible wit and genius and understanding.
00:19:02.000 And they got a little Cerbic side to them when he was questioning.
00:19:08.000 Clarence Thomas always sat back quietly.
00:19:11.000 What they, he called it a high-tech lynching at the time.
00:19:14.000 The more modern vision is Joe Biden that led it.
00:19:17.000 You got to remember.
00:19:19.000 Yeah.
00:19:20.000 And, you know, it was then Senator Ted Kennedy, you know, Robert Bork's America, the Borking of America.
00:19:27.000 Then it was Clarence Thomas.
00:19:28.000 Now we see it more recently with Kavanaugh.
00:19:31.000 It exposes who is Joe Biden going to be listening to?
00:19:36.000 Who is his team?
00:19:38.000 Because Clarence Thomas and Justice Scalia are the people we need on that court.
00:19:44.000 We call them constitutionalists or originalists, the original intent, not people that would cite foreign law as liberal justices have done, or not people that feel that they can rule by judicial fiat and dictate or legislate from the bench.
00:20:01.000 You know, Democrats always wanted the courts to do that which they could never do legislatively or win at the ballot box.
00:20:09.000 And that's why they want, we call them activist justices.
00:20:12.000 Clarence Thomas has shown a fidelity to the Constitution, as did Anthony Scalia, that is beyond enviable.
00:20:21.000 And the difference in styles were always interesting, too, because Justice Thomas would always be quiet, ask very few questions.
00:20:29.000 Anthony and Scalia was in there, you know, wrestling with people.
00:20:33.000 I don't know about John Roberts.
00:20:34.000 I can't get in his head, but I do believe the next president of the United States is a very good chance.
00:20:38.000 You have a lot of older justices may want to retire.
00:20:41.000 And I think that the next, this election, in just three short months, that's on the ballot.
00:20:49.000 And that's generational now.
00:20:52.000 Yeah, and Sean, I think we have to pressure the Biden campaign to do what Trump did and release a list of your justices.
00:20:58.000 I mean, President Trump was so transparent, and Joe Biden hasn't done it yet.
00:21:02.000 Intentionally, of course, because he'll probably put Rashida Tlaib or something on the United States Supreme Court.
00:21:08.000 I mean, as horrifying as that might be.
00:21:10.000 So two quick closing questions, Sean, and thank you for being so generous of your time.
00:21:15.000 And I encourage everyone to go by, live free or die.
00:21:18.000 The first is this.
00:21:19.000 Can you just talk about where we are heading into the election?
00:21:21.000 A lot of Trump supporters, they're falling victim to these suppression polls.
00:21:25.000 I wish that wasn't the case, but it seems like the memory of 2016 has faded where people forget we were down by double digits.
00:21:32.000 Can you just give a little vote of confidence to some of our listeners out there that think we're just losing?
00:21:37.000 I want to give the vote of confidence, but I want people to feel this way.
00:21:42.000 I want people to think, I'll use a football analogy that our mutual friend Linda, that you know, who's your biggest fan, my radio producer.
00:21:50.000 He's amazing.
00:21:52.000 She's amazing, but she doesn't even know how many points you get in a touchdown.
00:21:55.000 So I'm giving these football analogies. 0.99
00:21:58.000 I want this election.
00:21:59.000 I want people to feel the way I feel, which is we're on our own 20.
00:22:05.000 It's two minutes to go.
00:22:06.000 We have no timeouts.
00:22:08.000 We're down by six.
00:22:10.000 We got to cross the plane, march down the field, cross the plane, and hit the extra point to win.
00:22:16.000 So if people feel a sense of genuine urgency and worry and concern, I'm cool with that because fear often is a great motivator, not irrational fear, but if people do not vote, you will get the government that they're telling you they're going to give you.
00:22:34.000 Believe them.
00:22:35.000 That is their agenda.
00:22:37.000 To be a Republican and win, you got to, I always use this analogy.
00:22:40.000 You got to run the table.
00:22:41.000 You got to get Florida, Georgia, North Carolina.
00:22:44.000 Can't win without Ohio.
00:22:45.000 No Republicans ever become president without it.
00:22:48.000 You got to hold Iowa.
00:22:48.000 Right?
00:22:49.000 Then you got to pick off Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, hopefully Michigan.
00:22:53.000 Maybe Minnesota will be in play.
00:22:55.000 Maybe the city of Arizona will be in play.
00:22:59.000 Joe Biden reference, for those of you that didn't get it.
00:23:03.000 We got to hold Arizona, go for Nevada, New Mexico, New Hampshire, and Maine's second congressional district.
00:23:10.000 If every single, this is a battle cry.
00:23:12.000 You started out this interview with this.
00:23:15.000 I wrote this book not because I like writing books.
00:23:19.000 My last book, I donated every penny I made to charity.
00:23:22.000 It's not that.
00:23:22.000 I don't care.
00:23:23.000 This is a tipping point, Charlie.
00:23:25.000 This is, I don't see if these policies are implemented, how America recovers.
00:23:34.000 Irreparable harm to the rule of law, to our courts, to our economy.
00:23:40.000 They want to wipe out the lifeblood of the world's economy.
00:23:45.000 This promise of socialism, and I go into such detail about how it's always failed.
00:23:50.000 Here's a quick socialism example.
00:23:54.000 Remember Obamacare?
00:23:55.000 Keep your doctor, keep your plan, save on average $2,500 a year per family, right?
00:24:01.000 Okay, millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans.
00:24:05.000 We're all paying about 200% more.
00:24:07.000 And add to that.
00:24:10.000 40% of Americans, almost 40%, have only one Obamacare Biden care exchange choice.
00:24:16.000 Now, how did they do with that promise?
00:24:18.000 Medicare is going broke.
00:24:20.000 How did they do with that promise?
00:24:21.000 Social Security, Charlie, hate to break this to you.
00:24:24.000 You're paying into it?
00:24:25.000 You probably won't get it.
00:24:26.000 I might barely skate through and they might give me 10 cents until they means test it and then take it back.
00:24:34.000 How did liberal government work in New York City with all the anarchy, cutting a billion dollars from the police?
00:24:40.000 How's it working in Chicago?
00:24:43.000 All these liberal cities where the violence we've been talking about takes place, they've all have one thing in common.
00:24:49.000 They've been run by liberal Democrats for decades, right?
00:24:52.000 Most of these states have been run into the ground by liberal Democrats for decades.
00:24:58.000 If you want to know what America will look like, if Biden, Bolshevik, Bernie, AOC, Pelosi, Schumer, and Bozo, that team gets in place, look at New York, state and city.
00:25:11.000 Look at Chicago, the city, Illinois, the state.
00:25:14.000 Look at California.
00:25:15.000 Look at Oregon.
00:25:17.000 Look at Portland, the city.
00:25:19.000 Look at Seattle.
00:25:20.000 Look at the state of Washington.
00:25:23.000 And I love this country too much.
00:25:26.000 You know, it's an all-hands-on-deck moment.
00:25:30.000 And I'm urging everyone of, you've got this connection with younger people in this country.
00:25:35.000 You have this incredible, incredible platform you've built.
00:25:39.000 And it's become powerful and meaningful and transformative to the country.
00:25:44.000 And you're going out there and you're fighting on these college campuses.
00:25:48.000 And it's not easy to be in the middle of a, I call it a shift show all the time.
00:25:53.000 That's well put.
00:25:54.000 But you do it.
00:25:56.000 And it's freedom works.
00:25:59.000 Every time you give up freedom for security, you lose your freedom.
00:26:04.000 Because the security that they're offering, these are promises that could never, ever be fulfilled.
00:26:10.000 And America, you know, the land, I'll close with this, unless you want to go further.
00:26:15.000 I can keep going.
00:26:18.000 Barry Farber, who was a mentor of mine, just recently passed away at like 90, 91.
00:26:25.000 And he always said, there's never been a country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power and abused it less than the United States.
00:26:32.000 Wow.
00:26:33.000 I add.
00:26:34.000 There's never been a country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power, abused it less, but used it to advance the human condition.
00:26:42.000 The reason America is great and exceptional, if I can say that today, it's not perfect, but it's great and exceptional, is because of its people and because of the fundamentals of liberty and freedom.
00:26:55.000 So that, you know, natural rights versus governmental rights, natural rights come from God endowed by our creator, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
00:27:03.000 Well, you can't pursue happiness these days in Chicago, New York, Portland, and Seattle.
00:27:08.000 So there's a lot on the line.
00:27:10.000 I love your audience.
00:27:11.000 I'm so thankful for all you're doing.
00:27:13.000 And you've got a great team that you've built around you.
00:27:16.000 And you're out there fighting the fight.
00:27:18.000 And I just urge you guys, just fight like your country depends on it.
00:27:23.000 Because America, as we know it, it's all hanging in the balance.
00:27:27.000 Yeah.
00:27:28.000 Well, Sean, you've been so generous.
00:27:29.000 The last quick thing.
00:27:31.000 I defend the president all the time personally as a person.
00:27:34.000 Can you just comment on that?
00:27:36.000 Because I've had the opportunity to meet him, not as much as you, obviously, and get to know him, but a lot of people hear misrepresentations and lies about who he is as a human being.
00:27:45.000 Let's close on this note.
00:27:47.000 Can you just mention one or two things that people can take away from that?
00:27:51.000 You know, first of all, it's interesting.
00:27:54.000 Nobody seems to understand Donald Trump yet.
00:27:57.000 They don't want to understand him.
00:27:58.000 I mean, Donald Trump, you know, the dog bites the beast things, you're feeling sad or get cancer, you can blame Trump. 0.98
00:28:04.000 I mean, that's how insane the left is. 0.95
00:28:07.000 But here's a guy that is so unique.
00:28:10.000 This guy is like a tsunami, a force of energy like I've never met in my life.
00:28:15.000 The most distinct and unique quality he's had is as president, you mentioned the Supreme Court.
00:28:22.000 He put those people that he said he put on.
00:28:25.000 He cut the bureaucracy as he said he'd cut.
00:28:27.000 He cut the taxes as he said he'd cut.
00:28:30.000 He did the North Dakota Keystone pipelines and walked like he said he would.
00:28:35.000 He's building the wall.
00:28:36.000 We're almost at 400 miles of wall by election day.
00:28:39.000 We'll be over 400 miles.
00:28:41.000 He found a way.
00:28:42.000 It was an uphill climb.
00:28:44.000 He said he wanted to pull us out of foreign conflicts, but not back away from evil.
00:28:50.000 Defeated the Caliphate, took out Baghdadian associates, took out Soleimani, took out the al-Qaeda leader in Yemen.
00:28:57.000 So what makes him special and unique in terms of the presidency is that he is who you see is who you get.
00:29:04.000 The guy that fights on Twitter is the guy that's fighting for a better trade deal.
00:29:09.000 The guy that fights against liberal Democrats and the media mob is the same guy's fighting to keep his promises.
00:29:17.000 That, to me, makes him the most unique, transformative political figure in our lifetime.
00:29:24.000 And right now, we tip the scales.
00:29:29.000 You have a choice.
00:29:30.000 It's never been a bigger choice.
00:29:32.000 He will keep his promises.
00:29:33.000 Corona's been a little bit of a curveball to the world.
00:29:37.000 But even that, 10 days after the first case, the only guy that I know of would have thought about a travel ban would be Donald Trump.
00:29:44.000 They were impeaching him at the time.
00:29:45.000 And Joe Biden was calling him xenophobic.
00:29:48.000 So he's a man of his word.
00:29:49.000 He's a man that will fight to his last dying breath for this country and the promises he made.
00:29:57.000 And that makes him, in my view, very transformative.
00:29:59.000 Amen.
00:30:00.000 Well, the book is Live Free or Die.
00:30:02.000 God bless you, Sean.
00:30:03.000 Thank you for all that you do, and we really appreciate it.
00:30:05.000 Hope to see you soon.
00:30:06.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:30:07.000 Bye.
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