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00:02:09.000For those of you that watch the podcast, you know that I make predictions every so often.
00:02:13.000And some of you have heard this story before, but in the spring of 2020, I made the worst prediction, I think, ever in recorded history since the advent of podcasting.
00:02:23.000Everything was locking down, and people were starting to stay at home.
00:02:27.000And I said, hey, these lockdowns, they're not going to last because the church loves liberty and the church is going to resist all these lockdowns.
00:03:03.000We were psychologically manipulated using information warfare, saying that watching church on a screen is the same as being around believers.
00:03:59.000And over the summer of 2020, we started to see more and more resistance against that.
00:04:04.000Of course, then we had the second episode that led to the start of TPUSA Faith, where we decided to burn our country down to a crisp all around the lie that we're systemically racist, otherwise called as Floyd de Palooza, basically, when the entire country decided to burn itself.
00:04:21.000And the same pastors that told us that they did not want to be political, the same pastors that told us that we'll never do a voter registration drive, were very quick to give a sermon telling us that you're racist if you have white skin color and that we all need to be in support of the racial justice movement and that we need to contribute to Black Lives Matter.
00:04:43.000For example, like Rick Warren, who always tells us, oh, am I not allowed to name any names?
00:04:51.000But no, I mean, Rick Warren, who I've debated with him on text message, and he's like, you know, Christians shouldn't be involved in politics.
00:04:57.000You know, we come to a greater kingdom.
00:04:59.000Like, then, Rick, why did you go march in a BLM parade?
00:05:06.000But if you dare try to contest for the, let's just say, the revitalization of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world, then you can't do that.
00:05:27.000This is a movement that is spanning all 50 states and thousands of churches and pastors.
00:05:33.000And, Pastor Luke, I told you when we were backstage about a year ago when we first had the privilege to meet, I said, you know, I met Charlie, first church he ever spoke at was ours.
00:05:43.000And I said, thank you for giving him a mantle that I can't provide because I have a gift of preaching a church down to a manageable size.
00:05:51.000But you've afforded Charlie that and all of TPUSA faith.
00:05:58.000And Tommy, thank you for the inspiration of that and embracing us.
00:06:03.000And a couple of things I do want to share before we get to a question and answer, which is we need to be prepared if they try to lock us down again or they try to go right after the church.
00:06:13.000This whole kind of obviously coordinated op that they're running around Christian nationalism is trying to get you to kind of sit in the corner, to shut up, and to obey.
00:06:25.000I think you're in the book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, by Tim Alberta, who, you know, he conveniently was allowed on MSNBC as soon as the book was published.
00:06:35.000Barack Obama said it was one of his favorite books of 2023, which was hilarious because it made the list of Barack Obama's favorite books like three weeks after it was published.
00:06:46.000Like, okay, yeah, I'm sure you read the entire thing.
00:06:49.000And they want to try to neuter the church ahead of this critical year.
00:06:56.000And I mean, what Bob McEwen said is so accurate and so important.
00:07:05.000Deep down, they're begging for you to have the Bible be the lens of which they view of how they vote.
00:07:12.000And any of the kind of chattering disagreement that you might get from some of the people in your church that say, oh, I don't want it to be political.
00:07:21.000That does not represent a majority of how the church, not even a majority, like 90% of how the church feels.
00:07:33.000We're being sold a lie that you can be a church in America and be silent on all these major culture issues, all these major faith issues, because they are spiritual issues at the core.
00:07:44.000And to be led that they're anything but spiritual, to believe that they're anything but spiritual issues is just not the case.
00:07:50.000And Jesus needs to be the center of everything that we do, always.
00:07:54.000And Jesus had a lot to say about every single one of these issues.
00:07:58.000Jesus spoke very clearly about what happens when you go after children.
00:08:01.000Jesus spoke very clearly about what happens when you don't obey the commandment, the two greatest commandments, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.
00:08:10.000And you could spend an entire month talking to your congregation of what it means to love your neighbor as yourself.
00:08:16.000And so we have to be prepared in this critical year for that.
00:08:20.000And I also want to say that we could talk about the churches that are silent, that are not speaking out, but I am just blown away by how many amazing pastors and churches there are.
00:08:32.000And I think so many of you feel the same way being at an event like this, how encouraging it is to know you're not alone.
00:08:39.000And that was one of the other reasons why we started TPUSA Faith, is I got annoyed.
00:08:44.000I kept on going to Steve Smotherman's church or Keith Kraft's church.
00:08:48.000And every so often, it wasn't necessarily at their churches, but I'd hear something, I'm the only pastor that is resisting lockdowns.
00:08:54.000Like, well, you're not the only one because I just came from this church here.
00:08:58.000And I said, we have to try to network.
00:08:59.000We have to try to strengthen the bride of Christ.
00:09:02.000And, you know, one of the objections that people will say is, you know, you guys are trying to divide.
00:09:19.000In fact, I'm fine, you know, drawing a line in the sand and saying that we don't believe that men can give birth and that children should not be taught graphic pornography and that we should have borders and that we should have leaders that love the country.
00:09:32.000In fact, I fail to understand why not every pastor in the country is contesting for those things.
00:09:39.000And the last thing I'll say before I throw it back to Rob here is that the people that say that we should be silent on these issues, they refuse to ever have theological discussions on this because the theology is not with them.
00:09:52.000Instead, they go to secular emotionalism.
00:10:25.000And this is a new age, I believe, demonic phenomenon that has come into the church that where we just kind of sit on the sidelines and we allow, you know, like, well, we're just going to kind of, you know, have church on Easter and Christmas, and we're not going to get into the public square and the Ecclesia.
00:10:44.000So I want to encourage you guys to keep on fighting.
00:10:46.000You know, Charlie, one of the things that was a great blessing to me was we had the churches that stood in defiance to the tyranny.
00:11:05.0003,000 pastors were in the opposition standing with Hitler.
00:11:08.000And 11,000 of these 17,000 evangelical pastors were in the middle saying, we just bury our heads and hope it goes away.
00:11:15.000None of them expected in less than 10 years that 6.5 million Jews would be gassed and incinerated and the church would be silent in relation to that.
00:11:23.000And it was Martin Niemohler, who started out liberal, but was moved by Dietrich Bonhoeffer and joined the cause.
00:11:31.000You and I have seen pastors stand, but what's really been exciting is when we do these pastors conferences, we get young guys coming in going, you know, we did the lockdowns.
00:12:50.000And we should be loving enough to say to the people that are not living up to the standard of being a pastor, that's okay, but stop damaging the label and the mantle of what it means to be a pastor by acting no differently than a new age motivational speaker.
00:14:02.000So I feel you on everything that you're saying.
00:14:05.000I'm an attorney, and it's really interesting because I'm from Minnesota.
00:14:10.000It's hard to be a Christian in those type of states where things are coming in from the outside we didn't even ask for, people didn't even want.
00:14:17.000But to your point, how do pastors speak out in their churches on these political matters without violating the internal revenue codes, risking the loss of their 501c3 status and having that kind of federal pressure be put down on them?
00:14:35.000Because it's my understanding: if you're going to speak on one side, you have to speak on the other side and provide equal time, equal opportunity.
00:15:43.000I'm just saying, like, I just, I cannot, I can't tolerate this anymore.
00:15:49.000Like, we have criminal invaders on our southern border.
00:15:53.000They're chopping off the parts of our kids.
00:15:55.000They're teaching our kids outright demonic activity, and the excuse that I get more than anything else is: well, you know, the Internal Revenue Service after a multi-year audit might do something they haven't done in a course of a decade, even though I'm legally allowed to do it.
00:16:09.000Well, my elder board told me that if I do this, we might lose the piece of paper and our business model might be compromised.
00:16:14.000Like, I'm sorry, if that's your excuse, then you should go be a developer of condominiums because you're much more worried about paying the note to a bank than saving souls for Jesus Christ.
00:20:07.000The trans the alphabet letter mafia is a better way to put it, has taken advantage of all of us as Christians.
00:20:14.000And they've taken advantage of us because we were so beat down for years because we were told that marriage between a man and a woman is not popular, that you're a hater, just let these people live.
00:20:26.000And we kind of laid down all of our arms because there was a fake peace treaty that was issued for a very short period of time where we were told that the alphabet mafia, they get gay marriage, which we never should have allowed to happen, and everything's going to be fine.
00:21:19.000We're not here to go out of our way to ridicule people for the sins that they struggle with.
00:21:24.000It is a completely nother thing to normalize sinful behavior, wear it as an identity, put it as curriculum, and then call us haters if we dare oppose it.
00:21:56.000I have four children, second grade through 10th grade, and I've always thought I wanted to raise my kids to be lights in a dark place in public school and wanted them to go and be able to share their faith.
00:22:05.000But my question is, at what point do I, as a parent, abandon ship and say, like, I can't subject my kids to that anymore.
00:22:33.000We also, especially in the public school where my oldest son went, we examined that and participated and went and looked at what the curriculum was.
00:22:45.000And anytime there was a red flag, we go in and make ourselves known.
00:22:51.000You don't just release them to the public school system.
00:22:56.000You're vigilant and you keep a track on it.
00:22:59.000But at the end of the day, you're a steward of your children's life.
00:23:31.000I don't envy your position, but I know God will help you through it.
00:23:34.000Yeah, I'm closer and closer to the point that there's very few circumstances where I think Christian kids should go to government school.
00:23:41.000And I'm willing to be convinced, but it's only because of the risk involved that you run a double-digit risk, 20, 30, 40% of you losing your child before they even reach adulthood.
00:23:54.000And so think of them as being light once they reach adulthood, wherever they end up if they go to college into the work.
00:24:01.000Because then they have the majority of their life is post-18, God willing, right?
00:24:05.000And so to think that they're going to be Christian missionaries when they're 12 is a wonderfully romantic idea.
00:24:31.000To what you were talking to, the lady that was here earlier, I kind of like had a question and roll me back to our lack of involvement, brought the abortion thing around, and then what you said about gay marriage, our lack of, I mean, our lack of involvement in politics.
00:24:47.000And then what I'm seeing now is that they're trying to legalize pedophilia softly.
00:24:53.000So, you know, to what Jesus said, you know, the thing about tying a rope around your neck into a millstone and then throwing the sea thing.
00:24:59.000I think this is going to be the next challenge for the church.
00:25:03.000We go with what Jesus said or what do we do?
00:25:23.000Minor attracted person, decriminalization of the pedophilia laws in California.
00:25:30.000You no longer have to mandatorily get registered in a sex offender database if you have a sex crime with a child.
00:25:36.000In five states that we know of that are Democrat-controlled states, they have all shortened mandatory prison time when it comes to pedophilia type activity.
00:25:44.000Child sex crimes are being decriminalized.
00:25:48.000For example, in the state of Virginia, I'm going to screw up some of the details, but it was essentially like, hey, you have to tell a parent if a teacher is engaging in homosexual type transgender teaching towards a child.
00:26:08.000Here's the important thing is that not every single person who teaches queer theory is necessarily a pedophile, but every single pedophile believes in queer theory.
00:26:18.000So you can kind of square that circle.
00:26:20.000And it's all part of a direct, it's a direct crusade of how far can I push the church.
00:26:27.000And now it is, now we're no longer kind of having to, we never were in this space, but it's so clear where Jesus says what happens when you go after the children.
00:26:37.000And there will be churches where they're going to bring pedophiles on stage and be like, well, you know, we just shouldn't be so hateful.
00:27:07.000I'm not sure we're going to have two, so go ahead.
00:27:11.000Being that we're aware that Jesus is coming soon, 2 Peter 3 says he's coming, but for his mercy, I would just like to ask for all the people surrounding me, whether Christian or the body of Christ or unbeliever, how do we grace versus death?
00:27:32.000Like, you're going to die if you don't know this truth.
00:27:34.000How do we, when do we discern we're extending grace or we're allowing people to die without knowing the truth or get out of our space without sharing the truth, in other words.
00:27:45.000And is that for each Christian unbeliever?
00:28:31.000If you haven't watched it, you're lucky.
00:28:34.000It is full of porn people and all sorts of awful things.
00:28:37.000And I think from my own personal understanding, I was one of the few people ever to go on that podcast and just outright share the gospel and throw the net.
00:28:49.000There were two people that are winning awards in the porn industry that were alongside of it.
00:28:53.000And I've no idea if I won over those eight young ladies or the millions of people online, but I went out of my way to do that because I felt a moral obligation to at least throw the net, right?
00:29:05.000It's not what I do professionally, but with the platform that the Lord has given me, I believe that I have a duty to share the gospel wherever I go and whatever platform he gives me.