The Charlie Kirk Show - Surviving The Bluenami: 2026 Election Night Reaction

00:00:00.000 Hey everyone, Blake here.

00:00:01.000 This is part of our election stream from Tuesday night.

00:00:04.000 Obviously, things didn't go great, but we always pick ourselves up and we soldier on.

00:00:09.000 And so, this is the second half of Tuesday night's stream where we talk about what happened, what are some lessons we can take away from it, and how do we move on to retake our country and get some wins for America in 2028 and beyond.

00:00:21.000 So, we're going to be starting with our simulcast with Piers Morgan, and we'll be going for about two hours afterwards.

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00:01:53.000 Hi, chaps, how are you?

00:01:55.000 Well, Piers, thanks for having us tonight.

00:01:57.000 We've been better.

00:01:59.000 It's obviously not the way we wanted tonight to go.

00:02:02.000 But listen, I think this is going to be a wake up call.

00:02:05.000 I mean, there's been a number of us that have been sounding the alarms on some of this stuff.

00:02:10.000 We believe our ideas are better, but we understood that there were going to be fault lines and wedge issues that were going to come to bear on election night.

00:02:19.000 We just didn't know if there was going to be a vote against some of the crazies and the radicals on the left.

00:02:26.000 That hasn't materialized, and it's a good night for the Democrats.

00:02:29.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I would say that a lot of this is completely self inflicted.

00:02:33.000 You can argue as much as you like about the merits of things like the Iran war, the use of ICE agents, and so on.

00:02:41.000 But the reality is that the exit polls are showing that a majority of Americans have a big problem with some of the behavior of the ICE agents, having agreed with the shutting of the southern border.

00:02:54.000 The economy is the big issue at the exit polls, and they blame Trump for his handling of it.

00:02:59.000 And the Iran war is very unpopular with the majority of Americans.

00:03:03.000 It has been from the start.

00:03:04.000 It's got increasingly unpopular because Americans have been able to draw the line directly from the attack on Iran, the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, the failure of energy supplies to get through that straight for months and months and months, and the inevitable knock on effect with gas prices in the United States and food prices and so on.

00:03:24.000 So a lot of this is self inflicted.

00:03:27.000 And, you know, I would argue if I was a MAGA supporter, a big Trump supporter, who voted for him in 2024, I voted for somebody who vowed not to wage foreign wars and to get the cost of living and inflation down and make America more affordable.

00:03:44.000 And yet by attacking Iran when he did, Donald Trump has, you know, many people say betrayed what he campaigned on.

00:03:53.000 Yeah, I think we've been discussing this all night over here, Piers, and that's basically what we've said.

00:03:58.000 That if we want to find an upbeat message here, we don't feel that an America First policy platform got repudiated tonight.

00:04:07.000 What we've experienced is a lot of people who feel that they were promised something in 2024 and then that promise was betrayed.

00:04:14.000 And we think that is a mistake because we've talked here that delivering on the border, on crime, there are a ton of wins this administration should be proud of and the people who voted for it should be proud of.

00:04:26.000 But.

00:04:26.000 If you're that college student who'd never considered voting Republican until 24, if you're someone who was an Obama voter, really liked him, and you hated the Iraq War when you were a kid, but you were suddenly ready to give him a shot again, that no new wars part was just a big part of that.

00:04:43.000 That idea that this was the Republican who finally was serious and had proven his worth of avoiding wars, saying no to the neocon war legacy, focusing on America.

00:04:54.000 And when they did that war with Iran, something that nobody was promising, nobody was running on, they That type of voter felt betrayed and unhappy, and it caused them, it just put a sour, a bad pall over everything.

00:05:07.000 A lot of those people stayed home.

00:05:09.000 Also, they caused bad energy.

00:05:11.000 They maybe encouraged other voters to stay out of it.

00:05:14.000 It just created that bad vibe.

00:05:15.000 And the culmination of a lot of bad vibes is bad election results.

00:05:19.000 But we want to emphasize, we think there's a lot for the administration to be proud of.

00:05:24.000 There are a lot of wins.

00:05:25.000 And I would feel much less happy if the number one issue in this election was like immigration and the border, and we got killed like this.

00:05:33.000 Mm hmm.

00:05:33.000 But instead, immigration was basically a non issue.

00:05:36.000 There's polls where some people say it went too far, but that's not what people are repudiating tonight.

00:05:41.000 They are angry about the economy, they're angry about Iran, and they're angry about the sense that the administration wasn't delivering on its 24 promises.

00:05:50.000 And I will take that reality and one more thing.

00:05:53.000 Well, I would say our worldview got repudiated.

00:05:55.000 Yeah, well, I would say it's not quite as simple as that, because although the majority of Americans, vast majority, agreed with the shutting of the southern border, particularly after how porous. the Biden administration that made it for four years with up to 10 million people just wandering in illegally.

00:06:11.000 If you look at the exit polls, six out of 10 do disapprove of what they perceive to be Trump's use of the ICE agents in an overreach way.

00:06:20.000 And of course, we saw people being shot dead in the streets and so on.

00:06:24.000 In other words, the fundamental principle of his immigration policy was very popular, but the excessive behavior of some of those ICE agents ruined it in a way.

00:06:34.000 And so people aren't talking about.

00:06:36.000 The great achievement on the exit polls of shutting the border.

00:06:39.000 They're talking about the appalling antics of some of those ICE agents.

00:06:46.000 Sure, Piers, but what I would say is even if there's a small majority say they are less happy, there's just not evidence that that is what swung this election.

00:06:57.000 It's not polling as the top issue for the people who are voting against Trump.

00:07:01.000 And as a comparison, in 2018, they did say that.

00:07:05.000 In 2018, immigration.

00:07:06.000 Was like the number one issue in the midterms in some exit polls, number one or number two.

00:07:11.000 It wasn't even in the top three this time.

00:07:13.000 And then just, and the numbers are overall not that decisive.

00:07:15.000 So a slight majority thinks that the president's immigration enforcement went too far.

00:07:21.000 Compare that to the absolute screaming numbers on stuff like cost of living or the economy.

00:07:27.000 I just, I don't think that's the issue that defined this race.

00:07:30.000 When the New York Times was writing their endorsement for Democrats this week, in 2018 and 2020, they were saying, this is a racist president whose immigration policies have gone way too far.

00:07:40.000 This time they basically didn't talk about it.

00:07:42.000 And the New York Times, to the extent that they were a zeitgeist of the left, they were not eager to highlight that issue.

00:07:48.000 I agree, but I would say that the number one issue to me is the economy, but that is inexorably linked to the Iran war, because without the Iran war, you would not be seeing prices at the gas pump in the way that they are, and you wouldn't see food prices the way they are.

00:08:03.000 You wouldn't see inflation where it is.

00:08:05.000 There is a direct line to be drawn from that decision.

00:08:10.000 As we're talking, chaps, I've just heard that CBS have just called the House flipping Democrats.

00:08:16.000 So the Republicans have now officially, according to CBS, lost the house.

00:08:21.000 Not a massive surprise, but that's just happened as I'm talking to you.

00:08:24.000 But I do think on the exit polls, they're all saying the economy is the big issue, and it is linked directly to the Iran war.

00:08:32.000 And I just think it's a shame for Trump that if you take the Iran war out of the equation, he'd probably have quite a much better story to tell because the economic hardship that many Americans are suffering wouldn't be happening.

00:08:45.000 The basis of the American economy is quite good.

00:08:48.000 The fundamentals are good.

00:08:49.000 It's just that people, working class, men and women in America are really feeling the pinch.

00:08:54.000 And you look at farmers, for example.

00:08:57.000 A lot of farmers love Trump, voted for Trump.

00:09:00.000 But what they didn't vote for was a massive tariff war, which was then compounded by the Iran war.

00:09:06.000 And it's left farmers really struggling up and down America.

00:09:09.000 So that's why I say a lot of this is self-inflicted.

00:09:12.000 He didn't need to do this.

00:09:14.000 And I think it's a real shame for Trump and his legacy.

00:09:17.000 If he now loses control of Congress completely, it doesn't mean he has no powers left.

00:09:22.000 But it certainly will clip his wings in a way that he could never have anticipated a few months into this second term.

00:09:29.000 So, Piers, it looks like, you know, we just called that we've lost the House.

00:09:33.000 You know, if Republicans also lose the Senate, what's your prediction?

00:09:36.000 I mean, do you think Democrats double down on a bad bet?

00:09:39.000 Do you think they did what they did during Trump's first term and just, you know, go just balls to the wall to try to destroy the guy?

00:09:46.000 Because I think that actually helps us in 2028.

00:09:49.000 I agree.

00:09:50.000 And I hope and pray they don't.

00:09:52.000 I would love to see it be really refreshing.

00:09:56.000 if the Democrats resisted the temptation to simply do to the Republicans what the Republicans do to them and so on and so on, going back so long now we've all forgotten when it started.

00:10:06.000 The tit for tat stuff is not in the American national interest.

00:10:10.000 What's in the American national interest now is to fix things like the economy.

00:10:15.000 And I think the way you do that is by putting all your time and effort in Congress, in that building behind me now, into coming together to work on these things for the good of American people.

00:10:25.000 Now, is that likely to happen?

00:10:28.000 I suspect not, right?

00:10:29.000 Because the Democrats won't be able to resist coming after Trump, coming after Hagseth, coming after Trump's family, impeaching, impeaching, impeaching, investigation, investigation, investigation.

00:10:40.000 And if I'm an American citizen, which I'm not, but if I was, I'd be like, well, how's any of this helping me?

00:10:46.000 Because whatever happens, the impeachment of Trump is unlikely to ever succeed.

00:10:50.000 We know that.

00:10:51.000 And if anyone does have any criminal liability of his team or his family, he'll pardon them all anyway.

00:10:57.000 So the consequences for any of this, I'm not saying they shouldn't be done, investigations, but.

00:11:02.000 If that is the focus of Democrat energy and attention after this thumping win, as it appears to be in the midterms, what a waste of their energy, I would argue.

00:11:13.000 Well, Piers, and one of the things that we were just talking about right before you came on was this very topic.

00:11:19.000 And one of the things that a lot of us pointed out as well is that when you mentioned the farmers just there, for example, for those of us in the internecine battles of MAGA and the conservative sphere and on the Republican side, you've always had this fight.

00:11:34.000 Of sort of the MAGA populist America First side versus the more interventionist hawkish side.

00:11:42.000 And the argument that I have been making is that America First didn't lose tonight.

00:11:46.000 In fact, America First was co opted successfully by many of the Democrats, including El Said.

00:11:54.000 And it remains to be seen how that race shakes out.

00:11:56.000 But he was running on a message and using ads that easily could have been run by pro Trump MAGA Republicans in 2024 against Joe Biden, particularly when it came to household costs.

00:12:10.000 And there was that ad he had where he was raising the milk carton and the jug of gasoline, the gallon of gasoline.

00:12:17.000 It was a very, very clever ad, and it was an effective ad.

00:12:20.000 But what it wasn't was an ad for wokeness.

00:12:23.000 It certainly wasn't an ad for the types of socialist policies that we know are pushed by the radical side of that party, which he certainly has a lot of ties to.

00:12:35.000 And instead, these are the types of things that you would typically hear from an America first populist.

00:12:41.000 So the question that I have, number one, is can the Republicans find their way back to that populist message?

00:12:47.000 I think yes, if they listen to the actual results here and read them the way they should.

00:12:52.000 And then number two, will Dem, to your point, Will Democrats govern the way that they campaigned?

00:12:59.000 Well, I think it's fascinating to watch.

00:13:02.000 I've lived and worked on and off in America for 20 years, and I've never seen a situation where both parties are basically now facing a ferocious battle for what their heart, soul, and minds really are going to be.

00:13:14.000 So on the Republican side, you have so many people splintering away from Trump, who used to love it Meghan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and others.

00:13:26.000 So there's a real split there.

00:13:28.000 And they would argue that they are purer to the MAGA ideal than Trump has become.

00:13:32.000 That actually, yeah, they agreed.

00:13:34.000 No more foreign wars.

00:13:35.000 Get inflation down.

00:13:36.000 America first.

00:13:37.000 And he's gone against all that.

00:13:38.000 So they would say they are the actual real MAGA people.

00:13:42.000 And they've got a good argument for that.

00:13:44.000 On the left, you're going to have a fascinating battle here.

00:13:46.000 If Al-Said wins in Michigan, which looks likely, 97% I'm looking at here on Polymath's latest numbers.

00:13:53.000 So heading towards a win.

00:13:54.000 Mike Rogers down to 2%.

00:13:56.000 Looks like that may be all over.

00:13:57.000 If he is to win, then that's a massive win for the real hard progressive left in America.

00:14:04.000 And you're seeing Mamdani, Al Said, AOC.

00:14:08.000 These are the dominant figures of the Democratic Party.

00:14:11.000 But you're also seeing people like Nancy Pelosi and Pete Buttigieg and others recoiling from this, trying to pull them back to the center because they probably suspect a progressive left candidate cannot win in 2028.

00:14:24.000 So both parties are going to have a real day of, I think, reckoning.

00:14:28.000 Coming after here, you've got two years to a general election.

00:14:32.000 Which way are we going to go?

00:14:34.000 It's interesting to me looking at the numbers in the exit polls Trump has lost independents, he's lost Latinos, lost a lot of black support that he had in the general election.

00:14:43.000 Can the Republicans get that back?

00:14:45.000 It's going to be a hard task.

00:14:48.000 Who are they going to go for?

00:14:49.000 Are they going to go for JD Vance?

00:14:51.000 Are they going to go for Marco Rubio?

00:14:53.000 Could it be Ron DeSantis who's been suddenly being very vocal now, distancing himself from a lot of what he calls the more delusional arm of the MAGA side of the party?

00:15:03.000 There's an awful lot going on here with both parties.

00:15:06.000 And I think it's going to be fascinating to see which road they go down in the run up to the general election.

00:15:12.000 Well, the thing that I've seen passed around most right now this evening, Piers, is the, you know, that Mark Thiessen Washington Post op ed saying, there's no downside in attacking and striking Iran.

00:15:25.000 I think that was, I think there's two psychic breaks that happen with the base.

00:15:30.000 We hear this from our students at Turning Point.

00:15:32.000 You know, they're the ones that are tabling on campus and they have to defend.

00:15:35.000 Even if they don't agree with it, they're asked to defend policies that they didn't necessarily vote for either.

00:15:40.000 And that is that the two psychic breaks were the Epstein files, how that was handled, and the Iran war.

00:15:47.000 You have Democrats that didn't like what happened with ICE.

00:15:47.000 Right?

00:15:50.000 We never heard that from the base.

00:15:51.000 The base actually was very much behind that.

00:15:55.000 But it was the Iran war that really caused the wedge issue with the base.

00:15:58.000 What did that do?

00:15:59.000 Online social media, chaos, it scattered the message.

00:16:02.000 We had infighting.

00:16:03.000 We weren't singing from the same song sheet.

00:16:05.000 We were all over the place.

00:16:07.000 And those two issues, I think, ultimately had a trickle down effect, a demoralization campaign.

00:16:12.000 And yeah, we saw this, you know, the sports.

00:16:14.000 The Megyn Kellys, the Tuckers, and all the Marjorie Taylor Greens break away.

00:16:19.000 And that was very confusing for a lot of people, I will tell you.

00:16:21.000 We got a lot of that feedback.

00:16:24.000 Our students had to wear the front lines on that.

00:16:26.000 So we'll see if we learn it.

00:16:29.000 Oh, God.

00:16:29.000 Dave Smith here.

00:16:31.000 But Josh, Dave Smith here wants to love a question, eh?

00:16:34.000 Hey, guys, I was just curious, and I want to know how you think about this, but as the turning point guys here, because I thought that was very interesting analysis, I know that maybe the most popular congressman amongst your people, and I know the turning points kids fairly well, And I know that Charlie's favorite congressman was Thomas Massey.

00:16:52.000 So when he was unseated by the lobby for Israel, representing this other wing that you're talking about, that I guess Turning Point and Charlie didn't represent, why didn't you guys lift a finger to defend him?

00:17:04.000 Why didn't the biggest youth outreach Republican organization in the country say anything in the name of Charlie Kirk about his favorite congressman?

00:17:11.000 If I can pick you up on that.

00:17:12.000 Let them answer that.

00:17:13.000 I want to add to that.

00:17:14.000 It is pretty much exactly on the same point, which is that Charlie also was extremely vociferous against the Iran war.

00:17:21.000 And you're clearly running on his legacy.

00:17:23.000 I mean, his name is plastered on the front of your desk.

00:17:25.000 Why weren't you advocating against that war more aggressively the way he did?

00:17:28.000 He spoke to the president essentially opposing it.

00:17:31.000 And it seems like TPUSA has also dropped the ball on this entirely.

00:17:35.000 I don't think that's a fair analysis at all, actually.

00:17:37.000 You know, Blake and I will stand up for ourselves here.

00:17:39.000 We've been criticizing.

00:17:40.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:17:41.000 This is bullcrap.

00:17:42.000 We said before the war started that they shouldn't do it.

00:17:45.000 We said it would go badly if they did, and they weren't selling this conflict.

00:17:48.000 If they thought it was important, they should actually explain it.

00:17:50.000 They never did.

00:17:51.000 When it started, we said this is probably going to be unpopular.

00:17:54.000 The only way they can make this stick is if they make it end quickly.

00:17:57.000 That is what we said.

00:17:59.000 Why didn't we crash out and disavow the president?

00:18:01.000 Because Charlie would never crash out and disavow the president.

00:18:05.000 There's been a lot of historical revisionism here.

00:18:07.000 So, Charlie privately lobbied against the Midnight Hammer Strikes.

00:18:11.000 That's totally true.

00:18:13.000 I was front and center for a lot of that.

00:18:13.000 I saw it all.

00:18:16.000 But when it came to the president making that decision, he backed the president's play.

00:18:20.000 And he did a whole long.

00:18:23.000 Explanation for it on social media the next day.

00:18:26.000 So I disagree with the framing of that.

00:18:28.000 There's one clip from the day that the strikes happened where we said we were going to back the president because we thought that's what Charlie would do.

00:18:34.000 We were trying not to put words in his mouth, but that was our best read of things.

00:18:38.000 And we're very cognizant that we're carrying on his legacy.

00:18:40.000 Privately, we've lobbied against it.

00:18:42.000 We were very supportive of JD Vance and his peace efforts and getting the MOU.

00:18:48.000 I took a lot of crap for that.

00:18:49.000 I debated different folks on our side, the more neocon wing about it on podcasts.

00:18:54.000 So Yeah, just because you don't see a clip go viral of something that doesn't fit the narrative doesn't mean we're not doing it.

00:19:00.000 Thanks, question.

00:19:01.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:19:04.000 I just want to ask the guys one thing, given we're talking about Charlie.

00:19:09.000 If Charlie was still here, what do you think he would now say to Donald Trump tomorrow if, as seems increasingly likely, the Republicans lose both houses?

00:19:19.000 You don't want to put words in a guy's mouth like that.

00:19:22.000 I don't think that'd be appropriate to.

00:19:25.000 You know, to try to say what Charlie would say.

00:19:27.000 Let me loop back to Massey real quick.

00:19:29.000 And this is something I've tried to be quiet about for months.

00:19:31.000 But, you know, I know Dave Smith, I know Congressman Mace, I know a lot of these people.

00:19:35.000 Turning Point and Citizens Alliance have been great partners.

00:19:38.000 And when Massey, you know, was obviously primaried, you know, in 2024, we stepped up and we ran the Pennsylvania Chase for Donald Trump.

00:19:46.000 And I got a lot of crap from my libertarian friends, but I thought, you know what, it was worth the battle.

00:19:51.000 And in 2026, when people disagree with me, I stood with Massey.

00:19:55.000 And Turning Point has stood by me the entire time.

00:19:57.000 And that was a tough decision for me to make because it would be a lot easier for me to just be on Team Red.

00:20:03.000 But we came in, we spent millions of dollars to try to help him win.

00:20:07.000 I was very quiet about it because I am trying to build the red wall.

00:20:10.000 But at the end of the day, you stick with people that are principled.

00:20:13.000 I stuck with him.

00:20:14.000 I'm here on Charlie's show tonight, invited by Erica Kirk, believing in what we believe in.

00:20:20.000 So we can be mad about how much support was put forward, but the guy who ran his super PAC and helped him to try to stay elected, I'm here in the room.

00:20:29.000 So I think support for Massey is still heard.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, it just doesn't answer my question.

00:20:33.000 I think this is important for Dave and Omar to hear.

00:20:36.000 What you heard earlier, and you guys wanted to go in about the war and everything, but.

00:20:39.000 What Turning Point is, it is a conservative firewall.

00:20:42.000 They're out there, and they just acknowledged tonight, they acknowledged that part of this autopsy is it started with Epstein and it's ending with the Iran war.

00:20:50.000 So you have to give credit where credit is due, where conservatives who are in the fight every single day, who are trying to build the conservative movement and are and have, and building upon Charlie Kirk's legacy, that they're actually willing to admit where some of this comes from.

00:21:04.000 Well, I suppose, well, forgive me, Congresswoman, but from my perspective, I screamed this at all of them last June, and then what I've been told for the Since then, it is by Jack Posabiak and others that Donald Trump has had a huge victory in Iran.

00:21:18.000 We've got a huge deal that's about to come historic win.

00:21:21.000 No, Dave, I said the peace deal would have been victorious.

00:21:25.000 I said I supported the.

00:21:27.000 You're twisting the words again.

00:21:29.000 You're literally twisting the words every single time.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, the peace deal, if it had stuck, which was something I supported, which I think all of us here supported, was something that would have been a huge victory.

00:21:42.000 No, I supported the peace deal, Dave.

00:21:45.000 You're going to come in here and just start lying when you first open your mouth.

00:21:51.000 We've repeatedly said we want this war to end with a peace.

00:21:54.000 We think it would be good for America.

00:21:55.000 We think it would be good for the movement.

00:21:57.000 It would be good for MAGA.

00:21:58.000 We've repeatedly argued that.

00:22:00.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:22:01.000 So should we not have supported the peace deal?

00:22:03.000 I just want you to let her have us do.

00:22:05.000 If I may, gentlemen, if I may, I would like to announce a peace deal between all of us because we came together to share our streams.

00:22:16.000 It's been great talking to you guys.

00:22:18.000 I think we should leave on a happy, content note of peace amongst all of us.

00:22:21.000 Sad state of affairs for all of us.

00:22:23.000 But I appreciate joining you guys.

00:22:25.000 Thank you very much.

00:22:26.000 Hold on.

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:27.000 Thanks, Piers.

00:22:28.000 We appreciate you having us.

00:22:29.000 I mean, I feel like some of this, some of that stuff is really unfair from Dave.

00:22:37.000 But that's fine.

00:22:37.000 You know, we appreciate you having us on.

00:22:40.000 We do.

00:22:40.000 No, you lied.

00:22:41.000 Yeah.

00:22:41.000 You're just a liar.

00:22:43.000 Dave is doing his usual step of being a dishonest liar.

00:22:47.000 I'll share the Yeah, no, you got into this with me last time and you admitted that you lied on X. You already admitted that you lied about this, Dave.

00:22:56.000 You already admitted that you lied.

00:22:58.000 Dave, we supported peace.

00:22:59.000 I mean, you know, sue us.

00:23:00.000 I don't know what you want.

00:23:01.000 So we supported peace.

00:23:04.000 That's the bottom line.

00:23:05.000 Supporting the warmonger in the wild.

00:23:07.000 I support the truth.

00:23:08.000 I'm just going to support the truth and that we support the peace deal.

00:23:13.000 Well, that was interesting.

00:23:14.000 You know what's so neat?

00:23:15.000 I actually got into that with him over X a while back and he was like, oh, and people pointed out to him, That's what I had said was about the deal.

00:23:26.000 And then he kind of went back and said, Oh, well, I assumed you meant something else.

00:23:31.000 So therefore, I'm still right.

00:23:33.000 And it was like, what?

00:23:35.000 I just get so furious about this crap they do.

00:23:37.000 He's like, why didn't you support Massey?

00:23:40.000 Well, okay, because Massey has crashed out and wanted to derail an administration that secured the border and fought against DEA.

00:23:45.000 I don't know if I.

00:23:45.000 And did a bunch of things.

00:23:47.000 I don't know if we should use the word derail.

00:23:49.000 Fine.

00:23:50.000 I know you're friendlier with him, and yeah, you're fine to have that opinion.

00:23:52.000 Bottom line is, we didn't.

00:23:54.000 We were asked to get involved in the anti-Massy thing.

00:23:59.000 We didn't.

00:24:00.000 And we knew you were working on it, and that was about the best that was going to happen in that situation.

00:24:06.000 And this constant.

00:24:08.000 You know, Charlie said that Massey was his favorite congressman, I think, in 2023 or 2022, whenever that clip was.

00:24:15.000 And I took a lot of crap for basically saying that he was disappointed when he didn't vote for the one big, beautiful bill.

00:24:21.000 Okay.

00:24:23.000 That's the truth.

00:24:23.000 He was disappointed, and that's fair.

00:24:26.000 It's okay.

00:24:27.000 It doesn't have to be the end of the world either way.

00:24:29.000 If Thomas Massey would have won that race, we would have had his back and tried to work with him.

00:24:33.000 That's the bottom line.

00:24:34.000 So, you know, Galran won tonight, by the way, which is a, Well, and by the way, and I'm just going to be fair on this, and I also did not get involved in that one way or the other, but he and I got into it a number of times over the border and over immigration policy.

00:24:50.000 So it's not like there was only one issue and one vector that that race was about.

00:24:56.000 And so to try to be reductive and say, oh, there was only one thing, to your point, the one big beautiful bill was part of it, the border was part of it, immigration enforcement was part of it.

00:25:06.000 There were a lot of things, and yes, also the war.

00:25:09.000 So it's not like that was the only issue.

00:25:11.000 That led to that huge blow up between the president and the congressman.

00:25:16.000 Yeah, to act like that was just so unexpected was.

00:25:19.000 And I was going to say, by the way, and Epstein as well.

00:25:23.000 But the split had existed beforehand, is what I'm saying.

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00:26:33.000 Back to the Senate map.

00:26:34.000 Back to the Senate map.

00:26:36.000 By the way, Ohio is that race is separated by about 30, 35,000 votes.

00:26:44.000 Sherrod Brown is up 35,000.

00:26:46.000 There's a million votes still outstanding.

00:26:48.000 We have Brett Galashevsky and I believe we have Tyler Boyer ready in the Turnipoint action.

00:26:54.000 What's going on, Brett Galashevsky?

00:26:54.000 Studio.

00:26:56.000 Tyler Boyer, welcome back.

00:26:57.000 Sorry, we had to go argue with Dave Smith, apparently.

00:27:02.000 Go ahead, Tyler.

00:27:03.000 While you were arguing with Dave Smith, they called a bunch of races, so it's important to kind of go through some of these.

00:27:10.000 I think they just called Wisconsin as well for governor.

00:27:14.000 So Tom Tiffany goes down.

00:27:17.000 The race in Michigan, they called a while ago for governor.

00:27:25.000 I think they called.

00:27:27.000 They called ours in Arizona.

00:27:28.000 So while you guys were arguing, they announced, they released the initial results and they already called the statewide for Arizona.

00:27:37.000 So Andy Biggs goes down.

00:27:39.000 We're waiting on results in Nevada, too.

00:27:43.000 I mean, but this is just like, I mean, it's a lot.

00:27:47.000 It's a lot going on.

00:27:48.000 Yeah.

00:27:49.000 With this.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, Andy, so NBC hasn't called it for either way in Arizona, but Andy would need 66.9% of the remaining vote.

00:27:59.000 To overtake Katie Hobbs?

00:28:00.000 I think they called on decision desk.

00:28:02.000 So they, yeah.

00:28:06.000 It's pretty rough.

00:28:07.000 And it's throughout the entire state.

00:28:09.000 So all of the, it's not just his race, it's every race.

00:28:13.000 How's Feely looking?

00:28:15.000 Feely is maybe the only race that has like some kind of shot.

00:28:22.000 It's a long shot, probably, but it's a shot.

00:28:25.000 He's only down, last I checked, about 30,000 votes.

00:28:29.000 But he's, I mean, it's a long shot.

00:28:32.000 It's a long, long shot here.

00:28:34.000 What about Eli Crane?

00:28:34.000 All right.

00:28:35.000 Are we safe there?

00:28:36.000 Eli Crane looks like he's going to be fine.

00:28:38.000 He should pull through.

00:28:40.000 He's only a few thousand votes down after the initial drop.

00:28:42.000 And remember, this is how it works.

00:28:44.000 Now we're getting into the states where it's like this.

00:28:47.000 The normal states are, you know, they release all the votes together, and you kind of know what's going on.

00:28:53.000 Florida, New Hampshire, those types of races, and you know what's going on.

00:28:57.000 In Arizona and Nevada and other states like that, California, what we're going to see is you first get the initial.

00:29:05.000 Early votes, the mail in votes.

00:29:07.000 And then you're going to get the next tranche, which is some more early votes.

00:29:12.000 And then you're going to get election day.

00:29:14.000 And then you're going to get the late earlies.

00:29:17.000 And that's all going to start piling up.

00:29:21.000 But Andy was probably Andy Biggs.

00:29:23.000 I know so many people were listening and wanting to watch how close this would be.

00:29:28.000 I mean, Republicans were doing very well with turnout.

00:29:31.000 But I mean, the story of the night from our data team, who we were hoping to have something.

00:29:36.000 That was close enough so we could talk about all of this in depth.

00:29:40.000 But our data team, you know, we're looking at this comes down to the independents.

00:29:46.000 And the independent break here that did not show up in polling was far worse than I think anyone could have ever expected across the country.

00:29:54.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, when you model this out, you've got to make certain assumptions.

00:29:59.000 And one of the assumptions that we were making was that it was going to be a 43 57 break on the Indies.

00:30:06.000 But if that ends up coming back 35, Forget about it.

00:30:11.000 I don't know what you're seeing and what we're predicting.

00:30:16.000 People also need to understand when we chase low propensity conservatives, that's who we're chasing.

00:30:22.000 We're chasing low propensity conservatives.

00:30:25.000 But you don't really know how the indie vote's going to go.

00:30:27.000 But in 2024, we won the indie vote, right?

00:30:30.000 So that's a huge swing from 2024.

00:30:33.000 Brett, what are you looking at right now?

00:30:35.000 A couple bright spots right now I just want to quick focus our attention on.

00:30:39.000 So, Maine CD2.

00:30:41.000 This very well may be our only Republican flip of the night.

00:30:44.000 Paula Page, uh, going to flip a seat there in Maine in a state that Susan Collins may very well win or sorry, lose.

00:30:52.000 And it looks like they may be close to calling that.

00:30:54.000 So, rare bright spot there.

00:30:55.000 Derek Marin, uh, in Ohio Nine is hanging on by a thread right now.

00:30:59.000 That could be a bright spot.

00:31:00.000 And then, right now, still looking at Iowa, Marionette Miller Meeks.

00:31:03.000 If you guys remember back in 2020, this was the Republican candidate.

00:31:07.000 Yeah, she won by six votes in 2020.

00:31:09.000 And then the following election, she won by like 280, which is a landslide.

00:31:13.000 By her standards, she's sticking in it.

00:31:16.000 So right now she's only a point down, and everything that I'm seeing and people that I trust say it's still a toss up there.

00:31:22.000 So a couple bright spots for us to hang our hat on.

00:31:25.000 Yeah, Susan Collins is starting to fall behind, unfortunately.

00:31:28.000 She's down by about 6,000 votes.

00:31:31.000 There's, you know, 589,000 outstanding.

00:31:36.000 So we'll see.

00:31:37.000 It depends where those votes are coming from and, you know, what is outstanding.

00:31:41.000 If they're heavy Dem, you know, districts, then that could bode poorly if you're hearing that they might call that soon.

00:31:49.000 But, you know, 51 to 48, it's.

00:31:54.000 We'll see what happens there.

00:31:55.000 But, you know, the problem.

00:31:57.000 The problem for Susan is that there's still a lot of votes to be counted in some of these higher populated lib areas.

00:32:05.000 Yeah, Portland is only 28% in Cumberland County.

00:32:08.000 Well, that's about consistent with the.

00:32:10.000 It's a little bit below, and then who knows where it is within.

00:32:13.000 Maybe it's not even Portland itself or something.

00:32:16.000 The vast majority of the votes that are in big areas are remaining to be counted are in that area.

00:32:24.000 So that's a real problem for Susan Collins.

00:32:30.000 And then with the trends that everything else is going, that's not lending.

00:32:35.000 There's no savior areas here that you're going to see.

00:32:42.000 And I think they called LePage.

00:32:44.000 Is that right, Brett?

00:32:45.000 Do they call LePage?

00:32:47.000 Or no?

00:32:48.000 Still liens are.

00:32:49.000 It's liens.

00:32:50.000 It's not called on the New York Times, at least.

00:32:53.000 I think they're going to hold out.

00:32:55.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they hold out because they're counting the state very, very slow.

00:33:03.000 Because of ranked choice voting.

00:33:06.000 So it's going to take a minute in that state to get results top to bottom.

00:33:13.000 And it's all the local races in particular that it's dragging things out.

00:33:18.000 In Pennsylvania, they have officially flipped District 7.

00:33:23.000 So that's Ryan McKenzie, Bob Brooks, the Democrat, New York Times officially calling that.

00:33:28.000 We still have Bresnahan, which is very likely to be a flip.

00:33:32.000 And Perry, which is probably the toughest one for me to discuss, but Scott Perry, it looks like it's still.

00:33:38.000 Looking like it's Democrat, not called yet, but that is going to be a difficult one.

00:33:42.000 Former Freedom Caucus chairman to have people like him and Biggs and some of these others, you know, kind of out of Congress as fighters.

00:33:49.000 It's tough.

00:33:50.000 I mean, we're a lot.

00:33:50.000 Yeah.

00:33:52.000 Tom Tiffany, too.

00:33:53.000 Tom Tiffany, too.

00:33:54.000 I mean, you have so many members of the Freedom Caucus who are retiring or getting retired in that case with Perry.

00:34:03.000 And that it's, I mean, it changes the face, it changes the landscape, actually.

00:34:08.000 For the worst of Congress, so much further beyond just losing control of Congress.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, you got Chip Roy losing his primary.

00:34:16.000 You've got Ralph Norman losing.

00:34:17.000 You got Byron, who won, but he's now out of Congress, right?

00:34:21.000 We might just kind of looking around.

00:34:23.000 We might lose every Republican in New Jersey except the unconquerable Chris Smith, who's winning easily.

00:34:29.000 I mean, we could be, we're looking like 260 for the Dems is not out of the question.

00:34:35.000 Okay, that'd be really ugly, but yes.

00:34:38.000 I mean, the big one to watch is really it's Texas, because Are basically, are the gerrymanders going to get cracked?

00:34:45.000 Because if they crack, they will get cracked some.

00:34:47.000 Some might, but it is the big question is like, because if they can suddenly, if it's like you built a wall over a flood tide and if it floods over, then you suddenly lose 10 seats in Texas all at once.

00:34:57.000 And if that happens, then that's how you get that 260 territory.

00:35:02.000 But failing that, I mean, it looks like they didn't really crack Florida's.

00:35:07.000 Virginia, they weren't able to push theirs through, so it looks like they'll flip two, but they're not going to get that 10 1 map or whatever it was they talked about.

00:35:12.000 We'll have at least two there.

00:35:14.000 California, of course, they're going to knock out several because they did get their map in.

00:35:19.000 Arizona will have a few flips there.

00:35:20.000 Iowa's likely going to have some flips.

00:35:24.000 Yeah, I mean, this is.

00:35:27.000 I hate to say it, guys, but the House.

00:35:30.000 It could be 260 Dems.

00:35:32.000 Hold on.

00:35:33.000 Let me have some hope here.

00:35:34.000 Did Brandon Herrera win?

00:35:35.000 Please, Lord, tell me.

00:35:36.000 What district is he again?

00:35:38.000 Texas 22.

00:35:39.000 Is it 22?

00:35:40.000 He was way down when I was checking, but I don't know how that projected.

00:35:44.000 It was not going to happen.

00:35:45.000 It's projected right now as a toss up by the New York Times with a 55 42 Democrat lead, 61% in.

00:35:51.000 Yeah, it's tough.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, the, you know, there's, there's, this is one of those nights where there's not going to be a lot of bright spots.

00:36:02.000 That's why I like where your, where your head's at.

00:36:05.000 You know, Brett, you've been working the ground, talking to, to voters, activists.

00:36:10.000 You know, what were some of the themes that you were hearing when you were interacting with folks?

00:36:14.000 Yeah, it was a whole plethora of things.

00:36:17.000 First and foremost, I think obviously the war in Iran was a big concern, especially amongst low propensity voters.

00:36:22.000 Typically, your low propensity voter, Isn't really an issues based voter.

00:36:26.000 They just don't value their vote in the same way that all of us do.

00:36:29.000 And for the first time, in particular in comparison to 2024, they were talking about those front headline issues as potentially a reason to stay home.

00:36:38.000 And so, you know, we knew that pretty early on that it was going to be really uphill, especially during our relational organizing model and kind of the initial contact of like, how are we going to rewire a lot of these voters to start thinking towards a post Trump world?

00:36:54.000 And, you know, I'll just kind of throw some numbers out here.

00:36:57.000 Pretty early on, the first couple minutes after New Hampshire reported, we were looking towards northern New Hampshire, which is Trump country.

00:37:04.000 It's a place where Sununu would have needed about 80% of the Trump vote from 2024 to be able to compete statewide.

00:37:11.000 And pretty much from the get go, he was trending at only about 50%.

00:37:14.000 Berlin, which is way up north, an area that Trump won by about three points in 2024, Sununu was instantly down by 10 to 12 points.

00:37:22.000 So it could mean one of two things that Trump voters just did not turn out in the way that we thought they would.

00:37:29.000 Or the left has just done a particularly fantastic job of hitting their ceiling marks in these deep red areas, ballot chasing using a relational organizing model that turns relationships into new votes.

00:37:42.000 They will often penetrate these deep red areas with this kind of lose by less mindset.

00:37:50.000 And being at tonight, I think that the left has now seen the benefits of having permanent infrastructure over the last 10 years in a lot of these states that we're seeing marginal wins in.

00:38:02.000 Our maiden voyage cycle in the Granite State.

00:38:04.000 Yeah, it looks like Cliff, they did call Perry's race.

00:38:08.000 Yep.

00:38:09.000 The only one we have left is District 1, Fitzpatrick, which is still a toss up.

00:38:09.000 All three are done.

00:38:15.000 And 7, 8, 10,000.

00:38:17.000 All three are done.

00:38:18.000 He's down 20,000.

00:38:20.000 He's down 20,000 votes.

00:38:22.000 Does not look good.

00:38:22.000 Yeah.

00:38:23.000 So I think that goose is cooked.

00:38:28.000 Some others that are out.

00:38:29.000 Can I give you guys another bright spot here?

00:38:31.000 Oh, man.

00:38:31.000 Yo, please.

00:38:32.000 We'll take any one of those.

00:38:33.000 No, I want to.

00:38:34.000 Wait, let me say one more negative before you say a bright one.

00:38:37.000 Wait, wait.

00:38:37.000 Let me say one more negative.

00:38:39.000 Brett's just living off of a high because he's a Milwaukee Brewers fan.

00:38:43.000 So he's got an unfair amount of extra high in his body this week.

00:38:49.000 But, real quick, this is just to flag when we talk about the Freedom Caucus, Lauren Bobert right now is also down about 10%.

00:38:59.000 No, I'm sorry, 5%, 4% or 5% in her race.

00:38:59.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 And that's 80% in.

00:39:06.000 So there's a really good chance that she's going to be gone.

00:39:10.000 All right.

00:39:10.000 Go ahead with something positive.

00:39:13.000 So, we talk about losing some Freedom Caucus members.

00:39:16.000 We will be gaining the youngest member of Congress now, Michael Alfonso.

00:39:22.000 He's 26 years old.

00:39:23.000 Super conservative.

00:39:23.000 Oh, nice.

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 So he will win in northern Wisconsin.

00:39:27.000 He is actually Sean Duffy, the Secretary of Transportation's son in law.

00:39:31.000 And so, a 26 year old freedom fighter.

00:39:34.000 I mean, you're going to see him now lock arms with other young freedom fighters like Brandon Gill.

00:39:39.000 So, I mean, you're seeing now Gen Z stepping into larger roles of influence in Congress.

00:39:43.000 That's huge.

00:39:44.000 Well, yeah.

00:39:45.000 We were really proud to endorse him early and support him.

00:39:49.000 I mean, he's the youngest member of Congress by a lot.

00:39:53.000 So that's.

00:39:54.000 Again, you need to get to know Michael Alfonso.

00:39:57.000 So he's going to be somebody that's going to be a big deal.

00:40:00.000 He's got a great family, too.

00:40:01.000 Cute little family.

00:40:02.000 Yeah, he's got a great family.

00:40:03.000 We had him on the show a number of times.

00:40:04.000 Listen, here's the.

00:40:06.000 I mean, listen, I know that we hate to lose some of these guys that have been around, that have been good.

00:40:11.000 And, you know, maybe some of them choose to run again, you know, when we got some tailwinds and the whole national mood is different.

00:40:18.000 God willing.

00:40:19.000 But this here is an opportunity where we.

00:40:22.000 How long, Tyler and Brett?

00:40:24.000 Cliff, Blake, have we been raging against some of the old bulls who just can't seem to get the mood of the country?

00:40:32.000 And this is an opportunity where there is a purging function here.

00:40:35.000 We're going to lose some good people.

00:40:37.000 We're going to lose some people that, frankly, we're going to be okay in the long run without.

00:40:44.000 There is an opportunity to recruit new, bold, dynamic leaders that can run and really capture some enthusiasm, some energy.

00:40:52.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 We're going to need new leadership.

00:40:55.000 I mean, we're going to need.

00:40:57.000 That's the thing when you have these big wave years like this and resets.

00:41:01.000 I mean, a lot of people just walk away.

00:41:03.000 Even people who didn't necessarily lose, but there are entire circles or entire ecosystems of people that prop up some of these people and they're gone.

00:41:13.000 This is a great time for them to retire.

00:41:15.000 There's a great time for them to go find something else to do.

00:41:18.000 And so, I mean, the conservative movement will remake itself.

00:41:21.000 And that's actually a scary thing given the circumstances of kind of where the conservative movement is right now, where there's kind of a lot of different warring factions that.

00:41:31.000 That want to define what that is.

00:41:34.000 So that's, I mean, ultimately will be whoever shows up.

00:41:38.000 Yeah, I'm looking up.

00:41:39.000 So, like, we got wiped out really about 20 years ago, 2006.

00:41:43.000 I remember that one.

00:41:44.000 You probably remember that one, Andrew.

00:41:46.000 And then in 2008, we got wiped out again.

00:41:49.000 And, like, it sucked.

00:41:50.000 It was ugly.

00:41:51.000 We got a lot of lib policies from Obama.

00:41:53.000 On the other hand, I feel like the Republican coalition of the early 2000s might have been one that actually would have voted for amnesty.

00:42:00.000 And as is, you know, you got alarmingly close to it.

00:42:03.000 In 2010, I know people love to make fun of the Tea Party guys, but that was a much better class of senators, much better class of Republicans than what we had before.

00:42:03.000 But.

00:42:11.000 I'm looking at who our freshmen were after that class Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, he was a 2010 guy.

00:42:17.000 Marco Rubio, 2010 guy.

00:42:18.000 Rand Paul, 2010 guy.

00:42:20.000 We got some very good, long lasting Republican icons out of that tumult.

00:42:25.000 When you regrouped the movie, we had to regroup.

00:42:27.000 We had to get new people, young people, dynamic people.

00:42:32.000 Like the Florida that we just held the line on today, that high quality red Florida.

00:42:38.000 Was basically, it was already a state that was tilting a little Republican, but we created that Republican machine in Florida in that 2010 to 2020 window.

00:42:47.000 I mean, what a tremendous testament to Florida that they withstood this wave year.

00:42:52.000 It's crazy to think.

00:42:53.000 That used to be the state that would go blue at a light breeze.

00:42:57.000 But that's what it took is an extra 1.2 million Republicans.

00:43:02.000 Yeah, like that's the point is like, you know, the only places that withstood were like, You know, legitimately Republican plus 15 to 20 areas, right?

00:43:14.000 Like, that's the only, those are the only foundations that survived this hurricane.

00:43:20.000 Yeah.

00:43:21.000 Well, and here's the thing, Tyler, and you could speak to this better than most, and Brett, you too, actually, and Cliff as well.

00:43:28.000 But, you know, this idea that what we see unfolding here is somehow a repudiation of the ground game that we've been begging for, we've been building brick by brick.

00:43:39.000 No, actually, it's the opposite.

00:43:43.000 This proves how important it is because when you get the national sentiment, when it changes, when it shifts back, which it will, We're going to have to do some soul searching and look in the mirror, and this is a wake up call, come to Jesus moment.

00:43:57.000 But when we look at it, Tyler, talk about why the ground game remains critical, why this changes nothing when it comes to ground game.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, I mean, my biggest fear that exists is that people will dismiss all ground game because they'll find different reasons for it.

00:44:14.000 I mean, what's going to end up happening again is almost certainly tomorrow, people will come out and attack the left, will attack MAGA.

00:44:24.000 Right, they will villainize MAGA.

00:44:26.000 That will be the whole, that will be the basis for all the left's talking points.

00:44:31.000 The right will, many will attack the president, which is a mistake because, you know, I don't think that's going to make anything better.

00:44:42.000 I think there's open debate.

00:44:44.000 But you have a bunch of people who kind of circle around DC and some other places who, you know, they will try to make excuses for why we lost.

00:44:55.000 They'll make up, like, they'll invent new things of why we lost.

00:44:59.000 Yeah, a lot of things that you'll hear is candidate quality.

00:45:02.000 That's going to be a conversation around Paxton and others, right?

00:45:06.000 Like, that's what they're going to say that.

00:45:07.000 And that's just not true.

00:45:10.000 Again, it's just not an argument to be made because I can point to tons of Democrat candidates that are going to win today who are not quality candidates, who are that just won because of circumstance.

00:45:22.000 Yeah, they wrote the coattails.

00:45:25.000 But the second thing that, so that's the number one thing you're going to hear candidate quality, right?

00:45:29.000 And it's going to make it a pathway for a bunch of people who want to make a bunch of money to try to shove in a bunch of people that they've been sitting by and they can make a bunch of money off of.

00:45:41.000 A lot of really rich people, a lot of times to run them as candidates and yada, yada, yada.

00:45:45.000 And that's what they'll do.

00:45:47.000 But the second thing is a lot of people will attack us or Cliff or whoever else and say, look, getting out the vote doesn't really matter.

00:46:00.000 People don't really care about that.

00:46:03.000 I can just say this in 2024, when we won, obviously the headwinds were against the Democrats, and we had a unified front.

00:46:16.000 But the unified front was able to go out and do grassroots type activity.

00:46:20.000 And that's what contributed to the faith that people had in general into a win.

00:46:28.000 You now have a situation where everybody loses by so much that you can't really tell.

00:46:34.000 You know, what good things made productive gains, and so it makes it easier for people to dismiss those things, and that's a problem.

00:46:43.000 That's really a problem for the conservative movement because that sets you back even further from building things.

00:46:48.000 Because you ultimately, people walk just like the same people walk away because they lose.

00:46:53.000 There's people who do all the work that walk away either in the Republican Party or they get Turning Point or other places, right?

00:47:00.000 And like groups like Turning Point and get out the vote operations, and then they don't return, and then you have to rebuild all those things all over again.

00:47:08.000 When you need them, when it's close.

00:47:11.000 And that would be a massive, massive mistake for the conservative movement to do is to, you know, have a disaster of, you know, the next four to eight years and then have to rebuild everything after the dust settles from that.

00:47:24.000 That will set us back decades.

00:47:27.000 Cliff, do you want to chime in on that?

00:47:29.000 Before we do that, real quick, the decision desk did call Kansas for the Democrat.

00:47:33.000 Wow.

00:47:34.000 Yeah, so Tyler.

00:47:34.000 Wow.

00:47:37.000 I don't mean the last.

00:47:38.000 There could be no cope here, guys.

00:47:40.000 This is a route.

00:47:41.000 It's a bad night.

00:47:42.000 It's a bad night.

00:47:43.000 It's a route.

00:47:45.000 And, Now we have to turn our attention to resisting the lunatic lefts that are going to try to ruin it.

00:47:50.000 I mean, they're about a heartbeat away from calling states like Nebraska.

00:47:58.000 I mean, this is bad stuff.

00:48:02.000 I mean, this is like Nebraska.

00:48:06.000 Holy, like Nebraska.

00:48:09.000 Yeah.

00:48:11.000 Like, that's wild.

00:48:13.000 That is wild.

00:48:13.000 I mean, Mississippi, and they called Tom Cotton, but Tom Cotton, you know, was single digits, I think, still.

00:48:22.000 Mississippi, we brought up.

00:48:23.000 He's 13 points up.

00:48:25.000 Tom Cotton is.

00:48:26.000 Oh, here he is now.

00:48:27.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:48:27.000 Yeah.

00:48:28.000 I misread that.

00:48:28.000 Yeah.

00:48:29.000 He's close.

00:48:29.000 But, like, that was tight for a long time.

00:48:32.000 But that Mississippi race that we were talking about is still within 40,000 votes.

00:48:36.000 Like, she's going to pull it out, but I mean.

00:48:40.000 Yes.

00:48:40.000 This was a tectonic quake.

00:48:43.000 It really was.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:44.000 And I'll.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:45.000 I'll back up what Tyler said.

00:48:46.000 I mean, those are going to be the challenges, right?

00:48:48.000 I shared that Fox News article with you guys about the amount of money.

00:48:51.000 I think it was over $11 billion.

00:48:54.000 Let's all think about that.

00:48:55.000 $11 billion that was spent on political advertising, all the electioneering combined this cycle.

00:49:01.000 And when you compare that to the budgets of some of the ground game, right, this is going to be our battle to explain to people the ROI of what it is that we're doing.

00:49:11.000 I mean, the Democrats are 10 years ahead of the Republicans right now.

00:49:14.000 They understand that the rules have changed.

00:49:16.000 And if you don't adapt, You're not going to compete.

00:49:20.000 And so, of course, the consultants that make all their money on these TV ads, the ones that are much smarter than we are because they're making millions of dollars on their commissions, they're going to push this.

00:49:31.000 This is what always ticks me off, by the way, when they talk about, oh, the grift or something like this.

00:49:34.000 It's like every time we get involved in a race, we lose money.

00:49:39.000 We are exhausting our resources massively.

00:49:44.000 There's no dividend.

00:49:47.000 We don't take a cut off the top.

00:49:49.000 We just commit to spending money and like chasing our tails to raise it.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, I just think that, you know, that's going to be the battle the strategic battle on the right, because the left has already figured it out, that we have to put our money where it actually makes a difference.

00:50:04.000 And we have to be willing to call some people out.

00:50:06.000 We have to be willing to stand up to this machine of people that is profiting off these campaigns because they still think it's about the message the night before the election and the perfect TV script.

00:50:17.000 Guys, that time is over.

00:50:19.000 The rules allow for 30, 40, 50 days of voting.

00:50:23.000 In some states, voting after the election.

00:50:25.000 So, if we don't understand what time it is, but also get that they're not going to lay down easily because you're going after their money.

00:50:33.000 And anytime you're the first guy through the door, as they say in Moneyball, you're going to get bloodied up.

00:50:37.000 But that's got to be the continued battle.

00:50:39.000 None of us that understand relational organizing, something that Charlie pioneered, that Tyler has just completely pushed the RNC on now, we have got to continue this fight.

00:50:51.000 And I think tonight, Isn't a setback when it comes to understanding that battle.

00:50:55.000 It's saying we know who the enemy is.

00:50:58.000 We're surrounded by these idiots that pour so much money into things that don't matter.

00:51:03.000 The left doesn't put up with it.

00:51:04.000 It's time for the Republicans to put their foot down and spend money to actually win elections.

00:51:11.000 Yeah, here's a sobering map.

00:51:14.000 I'll have the team get it up.

00:51:15.000 But you remember the famous Jake Tapper map where it was like, not one county has gone.

00:51:21.000 Yeah.

00:51:22.000 I mean, we're having the inverse.

00:51:24.000 Oh, no.

00:51:25.000 Yeah.

00:51:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:51:26.000 It is literally not one county.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:28.000 So this is what the new.

00:51:29.000 If you could take the bar off the bottom.

00:51:31.000 What?

00:51:32.000 So that's what we're looking at.

00:51:32.000 Yeah.

00:51:34.000 Is this for House races?

00:51:36.000 I think that's just like.

00:51:39.000 Yeah, this is.

00:51:43.000 I think that's Senate.

00:51:45.000 Counties in the Senate races.

00:51:45.000 Okay.

00:51:46.000 Yeah, counties in the Senate races.

00:51:47.000 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:48.000 So, I mean, listen.

00:51:50.000 But again, it's just popular.

00:51:52.000 It got bluer.

00:51:54.000 Is that the Midwest?

00:51:56.000 I can't see it from here.

00:51:58.000 It's the whole country.

00:51:59.000 Yeah, it's just anywhere.

00:52:00.000 Oh, I see it.

00:52:01.000 Okay, I see it now.

00:52:02.000 And you can see it's like where we actually hold that line in Florida.

00:52:05.000 The arrows in Florida are not that blue, where it's really blue.

00:52:08.000 Can I tell you what's the scariest thing to me?

00:52:11.000 You know, I was worried that there was going to be like craziness, you know, some bad places.

00:52:17.000 It shifted pretty dramatically everywhere.

00:52:21.000 That's what's actually the freakiest part about this this was not a regional thing for the most part, at least from what we see so far.

00:52:29.000 It seems nationwide.

00:52:30.000 Yeah.

00:52:31.000 It seems like it was pretty evenly distributed to everywhere.

00:52:36.000 That is not in yet.

00:52:39.000 Neither is California.

00:52:42.000 Nevada's not in.

00:52:43.000 I think we're waiting still on the governor's race in Oregon to see some of it.

00:52:49.000 Because you still have right now Michelle Tafoya is up actually in Minnesota, which is really interesting.

00:52:55.000 I think she's going to get.

00:52:57.000 I think she's going to.

00:52:59.000 I think it's only 22.5% send, so we'll see.

00:53:04.000 We did hold New Hampshire.

00:53:05.000 Kelly did win.

00:53:07.000 Oh, wait, hold on.

00:53:08.000 Never mind.

00:53:08.000 Disregard.

00:53:09.000 It's not called yet.

00:53:09.000 She's up, but not called yet.

00:53:10.000 She's very likely to win.

00:53:11.000 Yeah.

00:53:13.000 She's up about three points right now.

00:53:15.000 Um, And I would be shocked because I think a lot of the bluer areas have already been counted in New Hampshire.

00:53:23.000 I mean, we need to take a look at that.

00:53:25.000 But yeah, I think most of the blue areas are in.

00:53:29.000 So that's good.

00:53:33.000 So she's going to be fine.

00:53:35.000 She's going to be okay.

00:53:36.000 But I mean, she was up.

00:53:38.000 So for example, she was up in the polls like 15 to 20 points.

00:53:42.000 Yeah.

00:53:43.000 I mean, do you realize that?

00:53:43.000 She was up in the polls 15 points.

00:53:45.000 She's probably going to win by, you know, a handful of points.

00:53:51.000 I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok.

00:53:59.000 Plumbers, electricians, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.

00:54:03.000 And it went way beyond tips and tricks.

00:54:06.000 People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.

00:54:12.000 It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities.

00:54:19.000 I remember thinking, This is exactly what we need more of people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.

00:54:25.000 And I never expected to find a community like this.

00:54:27.000 That's the thing about TikTok.

00:54:29.000 You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.

00:54:35.000 Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok.

00:54:38.000 Learn more at TikTok.comslash discover more.

00:54:45.000 President Trump told the New York Times, Well, you know, we'll look forward to working with them, he said.

00:54:51.000 We'll probably work something out.

00:54:54.000 Yeah, he also said, this is what he posted on Truth.

00:54:57.000 I wasn't on the ballot, and if I was, we would have won in a landslide.

00:55:01.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:55:03.000 Oh, my.

00:55:04.000 Well, I mean, he may not be where he is.

00:55:07.000 He was a man of unlimited confidence.

00:55:08.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 I mean, it's that same spirit that got him where he is.

00:55:13.000 So, you know, he's not going to change it now.

00:55:15.000 And listen, I think what we have to get back to, so there's a ground game element, but you also have to be realistic about the fact that the ground game, you know, Tyler, you're always preaching to me, you can make up three to five points with a good ground game.

00:55:29.000 Three to five points.

00:55:30.000 Well, when you have the national electorate swing 10 to 14, 15, 16 points.

00:55:37.000 Obviously, there's only so much you can do, right?

00:55:40.000 So, what we have to then focus on is the messaging and the policies.

00:55:44.000 You know, this is a rebuke of, you know, gas prices, of the Iran war, of maybe some of the messaging, right?

00:55:55.000 The question is, are we going to take the lessons?

00:55:57.000 Are we going to take our medicine, if you will?

00:56:01.000 And I, you know, I don't see too much based on that tweet and that truth changing from the White House, from the Oval.

00:56:10.000 The question is, will the movement change?

00:56:12.000 Grab hold of something new.

00:56:14.000 Well, I think the Democrats are going to give us that opportunity, right?

00:56:17.000 For a while, the Democrats have just stood back and said, you know, hey, we're not them because they haven't been in power, right?

00:56:22.000 They've just had to sit there and take it.

00:56:25.000 Well, now the Democrats are going to be leading both chambers, right?

00:56:28.000 They're going to have to take some action.

00:56:31.000 A lot of governors, man.

00:56:32.000 And based on what we know about the Democrats, they're going to double down.

00:56:32.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 The pendulum does not ever swing back.

00:56:39.000 They keep going further and further, Looney Tunes, more woke, more radical.

00:56:44.000 More destructive to our democracy, if you will.

00:56:47.000 And so I think it's going to create some opportunities for Republicans because I hate to say this, guys, but we play defense a lot better than offense.

00:56:55.000 I wish it wasn't that way.

00:56:56.000 I wish we went on offense all the time and we had some real wins.

00:56:59.000 But every Republican in Congress, both the Senate and the House, why do they all score perfect 100s when we're in the minority?

00:57:07.000 They vote against everything because it's easy.

00:57:09.000 If we get a majority, again, I'm going to keep saying this, we cannot squander it, but they are always so strong on defense.

00:57:17.000 And so I do think we're going to get some opportunities because Democrats are in control, and now we're going to have to react.

00:57:23.000 We haven't reacted or done anything for two years.

00:57:25.000 I'm talking about the establishment, but now we're going to have the opportunity to react.

00:57:29.000 And if they're crazy, we're going to look like the same ones again.

00:57:35.000 Jack's back.

00:57:36.000 We were just talking about that, about historically the way things unfold.

00:57:41.000 Yep, he's got his book, The Way Radical.

00:57:45.000 Should we talk about how socialist revolutions work in every single country?

00:57:51.000 That they've taken place in, including, by the way, the literal communist revolution of Russia.

00:57:55.000 They take advantage of when people are unhappy with the decisions of those in power and they make promises they don't necessarily keep, usually don't keep.

00:58:04.000 In fact, they pretty much never keep them.

00:58:06.000 But they can sell the promise long enough to get power.

00:58:09.000 The way that Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky and all the rest gained their support in the literal Bolshevik revolution was by coming out against dissatisfaction.

00:58:24.000 In World War I.

00:58:25.000 And the average Russian, the peasants, who had just been serfs, you know, up until very recently, you know, immediately prior, were so upset about what was going on in World War I, so upset about this slog, this fight, this insanity on the Eastern Front that they were involved in with Germany, that eventually they, and keep in mind, one of the Tsars had already been killed prior to this, and they said, We're done with this.

00:58:49.000 We're so completely done with this system.

00:58:50.000 We're done with this war.

00:58:51.000 And what did the Bolsheviks do?

00:58:52.000 They came around, they didn't promise.

00:58:55.000 They didn't say that, oh, we're going to throw you in gulags and we're going to have a totalitarian system.

00:58:58.000 No, they said we're going to offer three things peace, land, bread.

00:59:04.000 And we got the book right here peace, land, bread.

00:59:07.000 And the socialist revolution was successful because people believed that the Bolsheviks were going to provide peace, land, and bread.

00:59:16.000 And the socialist revolution that I've been warning about all year guess what, ladies and gentlemen?

00:59:22.000 Buckle up.

00:59:23.000 It's here.

00:59:24.000 I'm looking at the results.

00:59:27.000 I will say I don't think we're going to win Minnesota, but it did turn out to be pretty close.

00:59:31.000 We've got.

00:59:32.000 Like, I'm looking at a county that's entirely in.

00:59:35.000 Let me grab one of those.

00:59:37.000 Like, Carver County is a county that Donald Trump won by five points in 2024.

00:59:42.000 It's 95% in, and Tafoya's winning it by seven.

00:59:45.000 Wow.

00:59:45.000 So, that is a state where we're actually having some counties.

00:59:48.000 Right now, she's up.

00:59:50.000 I mean, obviously, New York Times is rating it.

00:59:52.000 There's nothing out of Hennepin.

00:59:54.000 There's nothing out of Ramsey.

00:59:55.000 So, Twin Cities nuke is going to likely get them taken.

00:59:58.000 But, yeah, I mean, Michelle Tafoya is.

00:59:59.000 They're intentionally holding back.

01:00:01.000 They're intentionally holding back all of that.

01:00:04.000 Well, Michelle Tafoya is a candidate.

01:00:07.000 That might be worth running again, just for what it's worth.

01:00:10.000 You know, when that comes back up, back around the next opportunity.

01:00:14.000 I thought she ran a great race.

01:00:16.000 I think she's well suited for that state.

01:00:18.000 And if you hit a cycle that's a little bit more favorable, she's somebody that could really, I think, do something.

01:00:27.000 It's just like with Mike Rogers against El Sayed.

01:00:30.000 It's one of those things where you wish this race was any other cycle because then you think we'd probably get that win.

01:00:36.000 Yeah, Mike Rogers.

01:00:36.000 This is not the cycle for upsets in blue states.

01:00:38.000 Mike Rogers versus El Sayed in 2024.

01:00:41.000 I think he takes that.

01:00:42.000 I think he takes that walking away.

01:00:46.000 The polls have closed in California, Washington State, most of Oregon, and northern Idaho.

01:00:52.000 Obviously, they already called it against Hilton.

01:00:55.000 Yep, Steve Hilton has been called.

01:00:58.000 We're still looking at the Michigan side.

01:00:59.000 They called him immediately.

01:01:01.000 Yeah.

01:01:02.000 I mean, listen, Steve Hilton is a great guy who brought so much energy, much like Spencer Pratt, to that race.

01:01:10.000 A lot of enthusiasm, a lot of good ideas.

01:01:13.000 Galvanized a huge portion of that electorate.

01:01:16.000 It's just such a mountain to climb.

01:01:17.000 We are.

01:01:18.000 Do we have info on Prop 39 voter ID?

01:01:23.000 No, they haven't.

01:01:23.000 I don't think they've dropped any of the votes yet.

01:01:27.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 Nope.

01:01:28.000 They haven't yet.

01:01:29.000 Mike Rogers is gaining.

01:01:30.000 Mike Rogers is gaining an all side.

01:01:34.000 I'll take it if we can get it.

01:01:36.000 I mean, it's still low turnout or low counting overall.

01:01:39.000 So, where are we at?

01:01:42.000 Maine, Susan Collins is within 700 votes.

01:01:46.000 And there's still 500,000 outstanding.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, that thing will just be, that will come down to the wire.

01:01:53.000 It's going to be.

01:01:55.000 Oh, one big, big win in PA.

01:01:58.000 Hold on.

01:01:59.000 One positive in PA.

01:02:00.000 We did flip a seat, the Lancaster County seat, in the state Senate.

01:02:05.000 We got to take our win tonight.

01:02:07.000 Yeah, give me something here.

01:02:08.000 I'll give you one.

01:02:09.000 I'll give you one too.

01:02:11.000 In East Tennessee, Kenny Cody won.

01:02:13.000 Nice.

01:02:14.000 Our good friend, Kenny Cody, the former opinion editor of Human Events.

01:02:20.000 Has had his race called by the New York Times.

01:02:22.000 He's officially going to be a state rep, which is really, really cool to see.

01:02:26.000 You will not meet anyone more America first than Kenny Cody when hard in the paint.

01:02:31.000 He was out there when the hurricane hit.

01:02:33.000 He was helping people.

01:02:34.000 He was running all sorts of just fundraisers and getting provisions out for people and physically going out to them.

01:02:43.000 And it couldn't happen to a better guy.

01:02:44.000 And so he and I have been chatting.

01:02:46.000 But I did see that the New York Times called it for him.

01:02:49.000 So I want to throw this up because when we're looking at.

01:02:53.000 When we're going to get election results in on some of these states like Maine, Maine could be a nail biter.

01:02:58.000 We'll see how that comes down.

01:03:00.000 And Susan Collins, she survives when other people fail.

01:03:06.000 So I'm not going to count her out at all here.

01:03:09.000 But just so you know, throw this graph up when you can, team.

01:03:14.000 But this is kind of a graph of when you can expect election results in.

01:03:18.000 And you'll see Florida is like, you know, leads the pack completely.

01:03:23.000 But then you see Maine, 64% in by 2 a.m. East Coast time, 73% in by 6 a.m.

01:03:30.000 So this is going to be a bit of a.

01:03:33.000 A bit of a lift, and we're gonna have to wait on those results from Maine and Alaska.

01:03:39.000 Is the same, we're not gonna have you know 70 75% from Alaska until 6 a.m. East Coast time.

01:03:46.000 Susan Collins and Troy Jackson, if my numbers are correct, they're both dead even at 149,000.

01:03:53.000 I mean, it keeps obviously adjusting, but we're talking a couple hundred hundred votes, yeah, in a very tight race.

01:03:59.000 Do we know what's come in there?

01:04:00.000 Like, do we know what's trailing late versus what's already in the door?

01:04:08.000 All right.

01:04:09.000 All right.

01:04:10.000 So, Brett, why don't you give us this one from Ohio 9?

01:04:10.000 Okay.

01:04:14.000 Yeah.

01:04:15.000 It looks like we are going to have another flip on our hands that we have finally cracked the code to beating crazy Marcy Captor in Ohio 9.

01:04:24.000 Derek Marin, the Republican, he's up by 18,000 votes right now with a little under 50% reporting.

01:04:30.000 And that's with most of the city of Toledo already reporting, which is a big boost for us, up by 19 points.

01:04:36.000 So, that could be flip number two of the night.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, that's a big deal.

01:04:38.000 Another positive.

01:04:40.000 It's taken the GOP basically the entire cycle for 10 years to try to win that.

01:04:46.000 And it's a big deal.

01:04:48.000 It's a big, big deal.

01:04:50.000 Surprising, kind of, given the circumstances of Ohio right now.

01:04:55.000 Yeah, what'd you say?

01:04:56.000 Ohio, by the way, there's just a big data dump.

01:05:00.000 Husted lost 0.1.

01:05:03.000 It is at $2,011,000 for Sherrod Brown to $1.9,021,000.

01:05:09.000 So it's about $90,000.

01:05:10.000 Votes separating those guys, 89,000.

01:05:13.000 I don't think they're out there.

01:05:15.000 I mean, with 618,000 left out, I mean, I think this is a 2.1% margin for Jared right now.

01:05:15.000 Yeah.

01:05:24.000 Again, this is a state Trump carried by double digits.

01:05:27.000 So when we're talking about how far the electorate shifted left, we're talking in some states, you're looking at 12 point shifts.

01:05:37.000 Some states might be as high as 14.

01:05:40.000 Texas is probably.

01:05:42.000 More than that, actually.

01:05:44.000 If you want, Trump won Texas by 14 points.

01:05:47.000 And it looks like, I mean, the Texas Senate race is already called.

01:05:52.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 So, you know, we're just waiting to see how much he's going to lose that from.

01:05:58.000 So there's another interesting race that just came, that just started to come in in Washington where you had Glusenkamp Perez against Braun, who Braun is a local, I believe, is a state senator.

01:06:15.000 Very popular.

01:06:17.000 And he is up right now about 10,000 votes against the incumbent Marie Glusenkamp Perez.

01:06:23.000 And she's been kind of impenetrable because she's kind of a darling of the working class that is up there.

01:06:32.000 But those early votes just dropped in Blue State, Washington.

01:06:37.000 And remember, that was the district that our favorite guy lost twice.

01:06:46.000 So that is now John Braun is on a pathway to win.

01:06:54.000 Potentially.

01:06:56.000 That's interesting.

01:06:57.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:06:59.000 It is interesting, kind of, some of those lessons you could take from some of these weird little flips that are defying the overall move left.

01:07:07.000 Abbott has conceded.

01:07:09.000 Yeah, I just saw that.

01:07:10.000 I mean, not surprising.

01:07:12.000 It's 67% of the votes in, and he's down by 16 points.

01:07:17.000 Yep.

01:07:18.000 I mean, Texas, we might look at the results and see that that's an electorate that shifted almost 20 points.

01:07:27.000 It's not good news.

01:07:28.000 It could be bad enough.

01:07:29.000 I can't believe I'm going to say this.

01:07:30.000 It could be bad enough that we decide it's not worth targeting.

01:07:34.000 No, we're going to try to take Texas back.

01:07:36.000 I don't think you have a choice.

01:07:38.000 Okay, I'm just going to say categorically.

01:07:40.000 No, map wise, you don't have a choice.

01:07:42.000 You have to take it back because a Republican cannot win a United States presidential election without Texas.

01:07:48.000 Period.

01:07:49.000 It's not technically true, but it's most of the time true.

01:07:51.000 It is true for all intents and purposes.

01:07:54.000 To undo that would mean you'd have to.

01:07:56.000 I'll go work on the map.

01:07:57.000 It's unrealistic.

01:07:58.000 You'd have to flip.

01:07:59.000 You'd have to.

01:07:59.000 Well, first of all, you'd have to get Georgia back.

01:08:01.000 You'd have to flip Minnesota.

01:08:02.000 You'd have to flip.

01:08:03.000 It's unwinnable.

01:08:04.000 No, it's unwinnable.

01:08:05.000 And it's even unwinnable because of 2028, but 2032, you're looking at a circumstance in 2032 where you're getting like four or five more House seats or four or five more electoral college seats in Texas.

01:08:22.000 So Texas is even more important in 2030.

01:08:24.000 Yeah, it's going to be more important.

01:08:26.000 You're absolutely right.

01:08:27.000 The question, though, for example, in 2024, I think you could have.

01:08:31.000 Trump could have lost Texas and still won.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, he could have.

01:08:35.000 I'm just saying, there are scenarios where you could still do it.

01:08:38.000 I have this sort of theory that northern states are going to become more conservative over time.

01:08:43.000 I could be totally wrong, but we'll see.

01:08:46.000 I mean, if you want a spooky map that would be kind of scary, is that in the reality where we lose Texas, lose Arizona, lose Georgia, like let's just say total sun belt meltdown, those all tilt blue, then we could flip Minnesota.

01:09:02.000 And New Jersey red.

01:09:04.000 And it's actually a 269 tie with the current map, and we'd lose.

01:09:08.000 I stand corrected.

01:09:09.000 We have to win Texas.

01:09:10.000 Yeah.

01:09:11.000 I mean, it's 40 electoral votes now.

01:09:13.000 And after the 2030 one, I mean, you might be very close to California and Texas are about the same size.

01:09:18.000 Wow.

01:09:19.000 So, because California, I mean, with immigration cut off and deportations and everyone moving out, California might lose five or six House seats, and Texas might gain four.

01:09:30.000 They'll be right on top of each other then.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like, I mean, it's, and it's going to get worse because the more money that they pour into the Democrats pour into Texas, the harder it's going to be to win.

01:09:42.000 That's part of the reason why this election was so important, was because it's not just Texas, it's Arizona, it's Nevada.

01:09:48.000 This is why we talked about a red wall strategy, was because you, you needed to prove to donors and to our, our big supporters that, you know, you can, you can hold stuff, you can keep stuff in a good place heading into 2028.

01:10:05.000 Right.

01:10:05.000 Like that, there's a strategy to work with Hispanic voters and to hold that.

01:10:12.000 And, you know, we really wanted to push the left into, you know, doing uncomfortable things.

01:10:17.000 And now they're very comfortable.

01:10:20.000 Right.

01:10:20.000 Like, in fact, to the left, they're looking today.

01:10:23.000 And maybe that's the one positive thing that comes out of this whole thing is that the left looks at this midterm and they're so confused because they're all arguing over, like, which strategy to take to try to beat us in 2028 that it's, you know, they're not going to take the right one.

01:10:37.000 But you know, you've got Iowa that they slaughtered us in, you've got Texas that they slaughtered us in, you've got Arizona and Nevada that they slaughtered us in, they've got Georgia and North Carolina, and now South Carolina, and you know, potentially the future Tennessee.

01:10:55.000 Like, they have so many different things that they're coming at us with now that they may fight over that.

01:11:04.000 But it's not good for us because we're now going to fight over scraps, you know, for the most part.

01:11:10.000 NBC is predicting an estimated Democrat control of the House at 252 to 183.

01:11:16.000 Wow.

01:11:17.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:11:18.000 That's close to 2008.

01:11:19.000 I think they had 259 after 2008.

01:11:21.000 Yeah.

01:11:22.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:11:23.000 252, reminder 218 needed for control of.

01:11:28.000 Thanks for the reminder.

01:11:29.000 Yeah, 257 after 2008.

01:11:31.000 That was the high water mark.

01:11:33.000 What is the veto majority?

01:11:35.000 It's the House, so I guess, what is it, two thirds to override a veto?

01:11:39.000 It didn't have that, but.

01:11:42.000 Let's see how the rest of the night goes.

01:11:44.000 California's still got to come in, guys.

01:11:46.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:11:50.000 But that projection includes California.

01:11:51.000 There's the veto, no, veto.

01:11:52.000 Yeah, you do 290 in the House and be 67 in the Senate.

01:11:55.000 Hey, as my friend has helpfully pointed out, if we want.

01:11:59.000 To find a white pill, we are like, even as bad as things are in the Senate, we're probably going to win all the closest Senate races.

01:12:07.000 So we were like two points away from, yeah, we'd have 59 Democrat senators because we were just going to hang on in Florida.

01:12:14.000 We'll probably just hang on in Nebraska.

01:12:16.000 We might just hang on in Louisiana.

01:12:18.000 We haven't talked about that one that much, but we're up like 10 in that, except there's a giant, New Orleans hasn't dropped.

01:12:24.000 So what did we say?

01:12:25.000 Where's Minnesota?

01:12:26.000 We said she's up, but it's not going to hold.

01:12:27.000 I didn't think we're up in Nebraska.

01:12:30.000 We're not up in Nebraska, but like it's trending.

01:12:32.000 It was really bad at the start.

01:12:33.000 That they dropped a super duper anti Ricketts thing and it's just been chipping away the whole night.

01:12:38.000 Okay, because Dan Osborne is still up 188 to 172.

01:12:42.000 Yeah, but like New York Times has it very likely R. Betting markets say it's R. Can anybody tell me why they haven't called Kansas?

01:12:49.000 Decision Desk did.

01:12:50.000 I don't know why New York Times has it.

01:12:51.000 Yeah, New York Times still has it.

01:12:52.000 Because, yeah, they're up by seven with 93% remaining.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, it's very weird.

01:12:56.000 You'd need like 100% of the vote.

01:12:57.000 I mean, New York Times has it very likely D.

01:13:00.000 So, looks like Adam Hamilton, the mega church.

01:13:05.000 Progressive pastor who, listen, Tal Rico would be right at home in his church.

01:13:11.000 He believes in not legislating against abortion.

01:13:14.000 I think it would be maybe inexact to say he's pro abortion, but when you support it legislatively, I don't know how else to say it.

01:13:24.000 He believes that non Christians, so if you're a Muslim or Hindu, you can die and then meet Jesus when you go to heaven and still get saved.

01:13:32.000 What other crazy things?

01:13:32.000 He performs LGBT weddings.

01:13:36.000 So.

01:13:37.000 That's Adam Hamilton, and Kansas just voted for him.

01:13:40.000 I just think the difference between Adam Hamilton and James Tallarico, Adam Hamilton, even though he believes in crazy stuff, he was very much a good politician.

01:13:49.000 Spoke well.

01:13:50.000 I mean, would you guys agree with me?

01:13:51.000 Like, when he would speak, he could connect with people.

01:13:53.000 He was smooth.

01:13:55.000 Tallarico is a freak.

01:13:58.000 Tallarico's a freak.

01:13:59.000 I mean, Tyler, does this change our equation?

01:14:01.000 I mean, to me, maybe.

01:14:02.000 Look at Rob Sand.

01:14:03.000 Look at Rob Sand in Iowa.

01:14:05.000 He's a weird guy.

01:14:06.000 Like, I mean, we've got a bunch of really weird people.

01:14:10.000 Like the guy that just became governor of Brett's home state in Wisconsin, where the Milwaukee Brewers just won, the guy that just became governor dropped out of the race.

01:14:22.000 He dropped out of the race and he got like just like stickered back in, like glued back in.

01:14:30.000 Like Susan Collins might lose to a similar guy that just gets glued back in, that dropped out of a race, that lost a race.

01:14:38.000 Doesn't this prove our point, Tyler, that they're not voting for the candidate, that they're just going to take ballots?

01:14:44.000 Yeah, the country, that's the whole point.

01:14:47.000 Like a country's toast.

01:14:48.000 Like, nobody knows who these people are.

01:14:50.000 They're not even wanting to run.

01:14:51.000 The country's going to be governed into the ground.

01:14:53.000 That guy, I can tell you straight up, just listen to it.

01:14:57.000 He is incompetent.

01:14:59.000 By the way, a Democrat trifecta in Arizona is a very likely scenario.

01:15:04.000 We're about to announce that in Pennsylvania as well.

01:15:07.000 Pennsylvania, there's going to be some things going on in New Hampshire.

01:15:07.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 How does New Hampshire look?

01:15:12.000 It's going to be a knife fight.

01:15:14.000 There's going to be a real knife fight that you're going to have to do because, like, one thing you could actually see some states do now, okay, if they have a Dem trifecta in Arizona, they can gerrymander Arizona's seats.

01:15:24.000 They could gerrymander Arizona's state seats.

01:15:26.000 They can change our state constitution.

01:15:27.000 They could change our state constitution for the 2028 election very easily.

01:15:31.000 Oh, that is another thing.

01:15:32.000 They could have Arizona sign up for that.

01:15:34.000 They could try to abolish the electoral college.

01:15:36.000 I think our current Supreme Court would nix that.

01:15:39.000 They would say it's an unconstitutional interstate compact, which you're not really supposed to make.

01:15:44.000 But they might try it.

01:15:46.000 They might try to just make it a popular vote election in 28, get rid of the electoral college.

01:15:50.000 Might blow up in their face.

01:15:52.000 That would be funny in the same way that our gerrymander might blow up in our face in Texas.

01:15:52.000 That would be funny.

01:15:57.000 It would be funny for Democrats to try to abolish the Electoral College, and it makes all the people in the major swing states get mad because their states are less important, and they get mad and they vote against it.

01:16:08.000 That would be interesting.

01:16:09.000 So, here's an interesting factoid.

01:16:12.000 So, much ink was spilled, hand wringing about the Jewish vote in Michigan.

01:16:19.000 And the exit poll of early Jewish vote in Michigan has Abdul El Sayed winning 60% of the Jewish vote, Mike Rogers, 36%.

01:16:29.000 That is insane to me.

01:16:30.000 That is not insane to me.

01:16:32.000 They're left.

01:16:33.000 Jewish voters are liberals.

01:16:34.000 They vote for progressives all the time.

01:16:36.000 They always do this.

01:16:37.000 They hold liberal values on major political issues, and they also.

01:16:41.000 Most Jews oppose the Iran war, as an example.

01:16:44.000 So I get that some of them, it's very unpleasant what they've experienced, and I think it will get more so because the country is headed in a bad way on anti Semitism.

01:16:54.000 But they've voted left at every other prompting, and I think they'll probably continue to do so because.

01:17:01.000 They don't like Republicans and they don't like conservative views, most of them.

01:17:05.000 Not all of them, but a lot of them, most of them.

01:17:07.000 Yeah, it's about 65, 35.

01:17:09.000 Yeah.

01:17:10.000 And it's been that.

01:17:11.000 I mean, I think that's traditional.

01:17:12.000 That's traditional splits.

01:17:13.000 People were predicting this in 2024.

01:17:15.000 Over 10 7, it would be a big swing.

01:17:17.000 And it really didn't happen.

01:17:18.000 It was other demographics that moved right.

01:17:21.000 And I think they predicted it every other time.

01:17:26.000 It's always one of those white whales.

01:17:27.000 A lot of people are always predicting it.

01:17:30.000 And.

01:17:32.000 I just haven't, it hasn't happened yet.

01:17:33.000 And I don't, if it didn't happen in Michigan after this race, I don't know exactly what would prompt it.

01:17:39.000 So, just so everybody's clear, though, it's still, NBC still has it too early to call in Michigan.

01:17:44.000 And the race has tightened up significantly.

01:17:47.000 So, Abdul El Sayed is at 50.3%, and Mike Rogers at 47.8%.

01:17:53.000 It's a difference of about 40,000 votes.

01:17:57.000 40,000 votes.

01:17:58.000 Yeah.

01:17:59.000 So, it's a difference of about 40,000 votes, but we got to look at where the remaining vote exists.

01:18:04.000 And there's a lot outstanding.

01:18:06.000 So, there's a lot outstanding in Wayne County.

01:18:08.000 Yeah.

01:18:09.000 About 700,000 votes, which are going to go heavily for El Said.

01:18:16.000 You know, there could be a composition of enough that's out there.

01:18:22.000 And again, you know, some of the hope that existed that was out there was that, you know, the black community would get behind Mike Rogers.

01:18:33.000 That's what some of the conversation was.

01:18:37.000 Same issue with the Jewish voters.

01:18:39.000 That are in Michigan, I saw something where Mike Rogers showed up to, I think it was a black church.

01:18:46.000 The black church announced him.

01:18:48.000 He stood up, waved.

01:18:49.000 There was kind of golf claps.

01:18:52.000 And then they announced they looked for Abdul El Said, who wasn't there, of course, because why would he be there?

01:19:00.000 And everybody starts standing ovation for El Said, who wasn't there, who didn't even show up.

01:19:09.000 So, I mean, you have the same situation.

01:19:12.000 And you're looking across the state now in Kent County, there's still about 200,000 votes that are out there.

01:19:18.000 In Wayne County, you still got 700,000 votes.

01:19:22.000 So, I mean, it's a long road ahead for Mike Rogers to pull it out.

01:19:25.000 Could he pull it out?

01:19:27.000 Potentially.

01:19:29.000 But I'm not sure.

01:19:31.000 Not sure that it's going to be in the cards.

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01:21:12.000 So, I want to go back to an important thing because I think we all agree the way that you make this bad result worse is if there will be people on the right who try to use this as their chance to sell out on issues they've always wanted to sell out on.

01:21:25.000 So, immigration as an example.

01:21:27.000 So, this is from the CNN exit poll.

01:21:29.000 A friend just highlighted this for me, and I want to look at the rest of the exit poll as we continue tonight.

01:21:34.000 But they asked in the CNN exit poll the importance of immigration enforcement to your vote and also the importance of immigration policy overall.

01:21:44.000 I guess actually this is the same thing.

01:21:45.000 Sorry, it's different charts.

01:21:47.000 So they asked, first of all, was it a crucial or major factor in your vote?

01:21:52.000 And if immigration policy was a big factor in your vote, you voted Republican 52 to 45.

01:21:58.000 And if immigration was a minor factor or not a factor in your vote, you voted Democrat 73 to 23.

01:22:06.000 So, actually, among people who thought immigration mattered, and it was actually overall a majority of voters, 73% of voters said it was a crucial or major factor.

01:22:13.000 It was basically the only bright spot in the exit poll.

01:22:17.000 So, it's three quarters of the electorate thought immigration mattered, and we narrowly won those.

01:22:21.000 And then a quarter of the electorate said immigration wasn't a big deal to them, and they voted Democrat by Assad numbers.

01:22:27.000 Yeah.

01:22:32.000 By Assad numbers?

01:22:33.000 Yeah, Bashar Assad.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:36.000 Like Maduro type numbers.

01:22:38.000 Maduro numbers among the people who said it didn't matter.

01:22:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:40.000 So I want to emphasize this again.

01:22:42.000 Immigration is a winner.

01:22:44.000 Immigration is a winner.

01:22:46.000 The people who voted Democrat, who made this a big year for Democrats, are people who said, Immigration policy doesn't matter to me this election.

01:22:53.000 Well, and so, Blake, I want you to make sure that we drive this point home for a lot of people that are watching because I've already seen, and obviously, when we were on with Pierce, he brought it up, but I've already seen a lot of the neocons out there trying to make this seem like a winner.

01:23:08.000 Oh, this is immigration.

01:23:09.000 It's not the war.

01:23:09.000 It's immigration.

01:23:10.000 It's not the war.

01:23:11.000 In fact, I'm going to build it out the whole four layer.

01:23:13.000 You're seeing it as well.

01:23:14.000 Yeah, they want to help start.

01:23:15.000 If you said crucial, if you were maximum 10 out of 10, Immigration mattered to me.

01:23:20.000 We won them 58 to 40.

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:22.000 If you said it was major, 50 47.

01:23:24.000 And then it's like not a factor at all 7%, 78 18 for Democrats.

01:23:28.000 That's the issue with immigration that drives me nuts it's huge and it's powerful and it's visceral when you see caravans coming over the border.

01:23:38.000 And then once you clean it up, we saw this in Trump 1.0, by the way, in 2020.

01:23:44.000 Once you deal with the immigration issue, it falls off the front page and then people forget about it instantly.

01:23:50.000 Crime, same way with crime.

01:23:52.000 He's tackling crime brilliantly.

01:23:54.000 He deserves massive, massive high numbers on it.

01:23:57.000 It falls off the front page, though.

01:23:59.000 So, when you're not seeing brand new headlines saying crime is on the rise, violent murders are shooting up and skyrocketing, when you're not seeing that, people don't vote about it.

01:24:08.000 So, it's a lesson that we have to internalize.

01:24:11.000 Once you tackle one of these existential problems, you then have to work down the list and make sure you're messaging on those because people forget about them.

01:24:19.000 You don't get rewarded for them.

01:24:20.000 That's what's wild.

01:24:23.000 But that's our system, right?

01:24:25.000 People don't have those long memories.

01:24:27.000 And so it's what's affecting me now is what becomes most crucial and most critical.

01:24:33.000 So if you don't have those optics of the massive caravans, but what you do have is that every time you go fill up your gas tank, the gas costs too much, then that's what you're going to be thinking about.

01:24:46.000 And you're thinking about why is my gas costing too much?

01:24:49.000 You're not going to be thinking about immigration.

01:24:50.000 You're going to be thinking about Iran.

01:24:51.000 You're going to be thinking about all these wars, the foreign money.

01:24:56.000 That's what you're going to go on.

01:24:57.000 I got it.

01:24:59.000 So, just to put the bow on what you were saying, it's for people who cared about these major issues, immigration was way down the list.

01:25:10.000 And for the people who said immigration was their top issue, Republicans won them.

01:25:14.000 Yeah, easily.

01:25:15.000 And then now I just got the Iran war chunk of this.

01:25:19.000 So, same exit poll.

01:25:20.000 I think this is CNN.

01:25:21.000 And the importance of Iran war to your vote.

01:25:23.000 If you say it was a crucial or major factor in your vote, the Iran war, which 74% of people did, Democrats win 62 to 35.

01:25:31.000 The people who say the war was not a factor in their vote, Republicans 70 to 27.

01:25:37.000 So again, we're getting like Assad numbers on each side.

01:25:40.000 If you think, if you say the Iran war is not a big deal to me, you vote Republican.

01:25:44.000 If you say the Iran war is a big deal to me, you're voting Democrat big time.

01:25:48.000 But the question is, which share of the voters is which?

01:25:48.000 Right.

01:25:52.000 What do you mean by that?

01:25:54.000 So for the people who said that it was the highest, how many of those people were voting out of the overall election?

01:25:58.000 It says 74% of the respondents in this exit poll said it was crucial or major for their vote.

01:26:04.000 So, and then 26%.

01:26:04.000 So there you go.

01:26:07.000 This reminds me of when I went on Ross Douthit's podcast when he was still with the New York Times.

01:26:11.000 See, I always say Dohat.

01:26:13.000 Is it Douthit?

01:26:15.000 Douthit.

01:26:16.000 I always said Douthit, but.

01:26:17.000 Yeah.

01:26:18.000 I could be way wrong.

01:26:19.000 I always told Charlie, I was like, you're so lucky your name's Kirk.

01:26:22.000 Charlie Kirk.

01:26:22.000 And by the way, he argues about it.

01:26:27.000 But the reason I mention it is because.

01:26:28.000 It's Zobiak.

01:26:29.000 Dave Smith.

01:26:29.000 Yeah.

01:26:30.000 Mispronounced your name.

01:26:31.000 Well, that's actually, that actually is kind of closer to the Polish way, so I'm not too upset about it.

01:26:37.000 And that the no, but when El Said went on his well, he does 60 Minutes as well, not the podcast, but when he does 60 Minutes and he was criticizing conservatives about how we talk about child, how we talk about low fertility rates, but then do nothing for child care.

01:26:54.000 I was like, guy's got a great point, yeah, got a great point, and he was making all of these again, just landing these populist.

01:27:01.000 Oh, I so I get really passionate about this, you know, it's like, listen, I think we should absolutely say, hey, if you're gonna have a big family, we're gonna.

01:27:09.000 Cut the hell out of your taxes.

01:27:11.000 Yeah, like people hate that idea because they think of the welfare queen living in projects, you know, the projects.

01:27:17.000 I think of, you know, a suburban family that is struggling to make ends meet, but they have four beautiful kids and they take them to soccer practice, you know, and how do you encourage more of those good behaviors, those good outcomes, discourage some of the bad outcomes?

01:27:33.000 I don't know if you can do it, but I love talking about this stuff because it's, we need to incentivize positive outcomes, family formation, marriage, those types of things.

01:27:42.000 And I think you're going to win a lot of voters.

01:27:44.000 Oh, by the way, NBC News just changed their estimated Democrat House seats to 255 to 180.

01:27:49.000 So win a vote.

01:27:50.000 All three.

01:27:51.000 Woo.

01:27:54.000 Man.

01:27:54.000 So, yeah.

01:27:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:56.000 I just saw it.

01:27:57.000 255.

01:27:58.000 Yeah.

01:27:59.000 What was the two thirds number again?

01:28:01.000 They're not hitting 290.

01:28:01.000 51.

01:28:03.000 They're not hitting 290.

01:28:04.000 I mean, yeah, the State of the Union is going to be lit.

01:28:08.000 I will tell you.

01:28:10.000 That's going to be a room you don't want to walk into as a Republican.

01:28:13.000 Brett, are you seeing anything else, Mr. Bright Spot?

01:28:15.000 Brett, are you seeing any other Bright Spots?

01:28:18.000 Oh, I'm trying, guys.

01:28:21.000 I got some bad news.

01:28:23.000 If we want to share that real quick before I go, Brett, speak the truth.

01:28:27.000 Yeah, so a blast from the past name, Paul Ryan, his former congressional district in Wisconsin, Congressional District 1, which takes up the whole southeast portion of the state of Wisconsin.

01:28:38.000 It looks like, and I'm hoping and praying that this isn't true, it's looking like Brian Style, the guy who took over right after Paul Ryan retired. Is probably going to lose that seat.

01:28:48.000 He's down by about 5,000 votes, and the most amount of votes left to count is out of his portion of Milwaukee County, which he was given during redistricting.

01:28:57.000 So, I mean, it's kind of along the same lines as Susan Collins, a big legacy congressional district that we might lose again tonight.

01:29:05.000 Ryan Stiles, by far, one of the most moderate members of the U.S. Congress.

01:29:10.000 So I'm shocked there.

01:29:11.000 I said earlier, too, that Marionette Miller Meeks in Iowa was in play.

01:29:15.000 A big ballot dump came out of Iowa City.

01:29:18.000 So she is going to lose that race too.

01:29:19.000 So, one of the storylines right now that's emerging, you see Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito trending.

01:29:28.000 You know, there's a tweet here from Ron DeSantis.

01:29:30.000 I can try and grab this visually for the team so people can follow along.

01:29:34.000 This, I think, is spurring a lot of it.

01:29:38.000 But Ron DeSantis says Assuming Republicans lose the seats where prediction markets have the Democrats at 90% plus chance of winning, that would produce 55 Democrat Senate seats.

01:29:49.000 Chance of confirming a worthy successor to Justice Thomas andor Alito during President Trump's term, zero.

01:29:55.000 Chance of confirming a worthy successor during a hypothetical GOP admin, 2029 to 2033, probably zero.

01:30:03.000 GOP won't be able to recapture enough seats in 28.

01:30:07.000 So the question then becomes because when you have a loss that's this sweeping, we talk it's going to take multiple cycles of really diligent work to get enough power back to confirm anybody good.

01:30:20.000 It takes a while.

01:30:21.000 So we're really putting ourselves behind the eight ball here.

01:30:24.000 The question then becomes Does an Alito or a Clarence Thomas look at this and say, I'm going to retire?

01:30:33.000 I would say if Alito cares at all about being replaced by anyone remotely ideologically similar to him, he's got to do it now or he's got to be incredibly confident he's staying on the court till he's 95.

01:30:46.000 So, Blake, I was thinking about this earlier when you made your recent, you were kind of ranting about how we got to do the judges and we should start now.

01:30:54.000 You know, this is a serious.

01:30:56.000 We know that Thomas has said a number of times in the past that he was thinking about, you know, looking at retirement.

01:31:04.000 I know Hemingway.

01:31:05.000 We asked Hemingway about Molly Hemingway, and she said.

01:31:07.000 It's come up.

01:31:08.000 It's come up.

01:31:09.000 Molly Hemingway has said everyone who knows Thomas, all the evidence is that Thomas has maintained he's going out feet first.

01:31:15.000 He is serving on the court till he dies.

01:31:17.000 But we did also hear.

01:31:17.000 Love that.

01:31:18.000 He's a first-class justice.

01:31:19.000 Okay, okay, okay.

01:31:20.000 Good.

01:31:21.000 Alito, we know that that sort of trial balloon kind of went up a couple of weeks ago.

01:31:27.000 Hey, maybe he's looking at it.

01:31:29.000 And I'm just saying, for scenario purposes, if that were to happen and if that conversation were to be made, then.

01:31:37.000 Realistically speaking, could with the Senate that we have now in the lame duck session, do you think we could get someone through?

01:31:47.000 I like to believe we would in the sense that, as much as the Senate GOP has disappointed me on SAVE, on immigration, on a million other things.

01:31:58.000 Like every time we have one of these ideas.

01:32:00.000 The only thing where even the biggest rhinos have always come through and have cared is on Supreme Court seats.

01:32:08.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 They came through on Kavanaugh.

01:32:10.000 They came through on blocking Garland.

01:32:13.000 They came through on ramming through Coney Barrett.

01:32:16.000 So the only issue, though.

01:32:17.000 This would be a step up from those, I think, in that it would require them to accelerate the process.

01:32:23.000 And these losers love their process.

01:32:25.000 But I think they would pick that over we lose a seat on the court.

01:32:30.000 You're saying that you think that they would like the legacy of saying that they picked a Supreme Court justice over screwing Donald Trump one more time.

01:32:41.000 Oh, man.

01:32:41.000 Well, here's the issue.

01:32:43.000 The Dems already want to pack the Supreme Court, right?

01:32:45.000 Cliff comes over.

01:32:47.000 If you do that, then they're going to play hardball.

01:32:47.000 Cliff comes over.

01:32:49.000 They will basically, I would say, they're going to do it anyway.

01:32:51.000 They're going to do it anyway.

01:32:52.000 If the Democrats have the White House after 28, it almost guarantees they pack it.

01:32:57.000 That said, I think we're over 90% that they pack it at this point if they do get a win in 28.

01:33:03.000 I mean, the Democrats are just nuts.

01:33:05.000 If you want to continue to look at exit polls, another number from NBC's exit poll.

01:33:09.000 Among voters like under 30 or so, a third of them described themselves as Democratic Socialists, and they voted 99% Democrat.

01:33:18.000 So, the future of the Democratic Party is Democratic Socialist, DSA, which is not just support for socialism, but just more generally support for radical burn it all down energy.

01:33:30.000 People who are Democratic Socialists fundamentally are just not people who believe in the United States Constitution.

01:33:36.000 Right.

01:33:37.000 Yeah.

01:33:38.000 By the way, John Cornyn, did you guys see his statement?

01:33:41.000 No.

01:33:42.000 Gleeful statement, congratulating James Tallarico.

01:33:45.000 He wants to welcome him into his office to assist with the transition.

01:33:49.000 That guy would never vote for any Trump appointee before his term is over.

01:33:55.000 These guys are, they're evil.

01:33:56.000 They're part of the process.

01:33:57.000 They're established.

01:33:58.000 That's a white pill for me.

01:34:00.000 Like, I'm glad that that rat, John Cornyn, even if we have to have a Democrat in his place, I'm just glad he is gone because he's such a vile rat.

01:34:07.000 He's always been that way.

01:34:09.000 Even in 2017, we would have, Members of his staff, I was over at Fox, they would tell us, yeah, Cornyn is like lying to the public.

01:34:17.000 He wants to undermine Trump.

01:34:18.000 He wants amnesty on immigration.

01:34:21.000 That was known a decade ago.

01:34:22.000 And this sniveling rat just kept sticking around like a barnacle.

01:34:28.000 I cannot be glad enough to see that rat gone.

01:34:30.000 Or Tillis, Tillis, who loved to gum everything up, loved to block every appointee because he had to grandstand over something.

01:34:36.000 Like, I am incredibly glad it stinks they're getting replaced by Democrats.

01:34:42.000 I wish it wasn't that way.

01:34:43.000 But the Republican Party is better for not having parasites like John Cornyn and Tom Tillis as fake GOP senators.

01:34:51.000 So, Republicans lost the Senate in 1986, going down to 45.

01:34:51.000 Check this out.

01:34:55.000 Okay.

01:34:56.000 It took them eight years to get back into a majority in 1994.

01:35:01.000 The GOP went down to 49 Senate seats in 2006.

01:35:04.000 And went all the way down to 41 members in 2008.

01:35:08.000 It took them eight years to get a GOP majority in the upper chamber back in 2016.

01:35:12.000 Okay, so that's those.

01:35:14.000 So here's what's interesting, though Republicans can get Ohio and South Carolina back in two years, right?

01:35:18.000 Because it's Lindsey Graham's term and it's JD Vance's term.

01:35:22.000 Okay, so those will be pickup opportunities.

01:35:27.000 But assuming that we don't have a realistic shot of regaining control of the upper chamber, the Senate, until 2032, That means that Samuel Alito will be 82 and Justice Clarence Thomas will be 84.

01:35:44.000 By the way, you were citing those numbers.

01:35:47.000 You want to know how bad things can get if you're a Republican in this country?

01:35:50.000 Guess how many senators the GOP had after the 1936 presidential election.

01:35:55.000 And there were two fewer states, so there were 96 senators.

01:35:58.000 30.

01:36:00.000 26.

01:36:01.000 Jack, do you have an answer?

01:36:04.000 Say the year again 1936.

01:36:06.000 1936, this is FDR getting reelected over Alf Landon.

01:36:10.000 Yeah.

01:36:11.000 And how many senators do the GOP have out of 96 Senate seats?

01:36:20.000 Out of 96.

01:36:36.000 They're hanging on.

01:36:39.000 South Dakota will not give in to the lib.

01:36:42.000 Love my state.

01:36:43.000 So, Brett, anything else that you're seeing on the landscape?

01:36:46.000 Looks like we lost Tyler for a bit.

01:36:47.000 He's probably.

01:36:49.000 Listen, let me tell you, I got some experience on that couch in the TP Action headquarters.

01:36:54.000 It's very comfortable.

01:36:55.000 Surprised Tyler didn't fall asleep.

01:37:00.000 We're waiting on Nevada results.

01:37:01.000 Those should be coming in any second.

01:37:03.000 Keep an eye on a couple key congressional races.

01:37:05.000 David Flippo up towards Reno, Carson City.

01:37:09.000 Marty O'Donnell, he's most notable for writing the Halo score.

01:37:13.000 He's a famous composer, a Republican candidate for Congress in the Vegas area.

01:37:17.000 And then obviously Joe Lombardo for governor.

01:37:19.000 So we're keeping an eye on that.

01:37:21.000 One of our TP action endorsed candidates for Congress in Michigan, Tom Barrett, really good dude, super conservative.

01:37:27.000 Looks like he's going to win his race.

01:37:30.000 So that's a plus for us.

01:37:31.000 And then on the Wisconsin front, guys, I got to tell you, thank the Lord Francesco Hong did not win that primary.

01:37:39.000 That would be trending the same way right now that that El Sayed race in Michigan is.

01:37:43.000 She would be our governor right now in Wisconsin.

01:37:44.000 That is a scary thought.

01:37:47.000 Yeah, back to Pennsylvania.

01:37:50.000 Right now, we've got 25 Republicans in the state Senate, 23 Democrats.

01:37:55.000 There are two big undecided, that's likely, but there's two big undecided state Senate seats.

01:38:00.000 They're both like within a point.

01:38:03.000 And if they have a split, I mean, it's pretty much a trifecta at that point.

01:38:08.000 You guys remember that Indiana operation that we did a couple months back where we primaried out a lot of those state senators that refused to support the 9 0 map?

01:38:17.000 A couple of those Senate primary winners that we endorsed, who are in pretty safe Republican seats, are going to lose their elections tonight.

01:38:25.000 Trevor DeVries, one of the younger guys that we were really thrilled about, looks like he lost.

01:38:30.000 Dr. Brian Schmutzler, who I know came on the show once or twice, he's in the margin of error right now.

01:38:36.000 That's looking like he may lose that race too.

01:38:38.000 That's an R plus 11 district, guys.

01:38:41.000 Yep.

01:38:41.000 Like this is a bloodbath.

01:38:43.000 Yeah.

01:38:44.000 And Sherrod Brown is officially projected to win in Ohio, beating John Husted.

01:38:52.000 It's a relatively close race.

01:38:53.000 I mean, it's like it's a two point.

01:38:55.000 Separation, but I don't think there's enough votes out there.

01:38:59.000 That's 589,000 out there.

01:39:02.000 So that looks like it is that goose is cooked.

01:39:07.000 Susan Collins is down by 5,000 now.

01:39:10.000 Looks like Troy Jackson is putting.

01:39:12.000 I mean, these people are freaks, man.

01:39:14.000 Troy Jackson is a total weirdo.

01:39:18.000 You know, Susan Collins, that one hurts if she ends up losing that because it's still too early to call.

01:39:25.000 But Very rarely do you have a candidate like Susan Collins who can hold a blue state.

01:39:32.000 People like to attack Susan Collins.

01:39:34.000 She was always there when we needed her.

01:39:38.000 And she came through on the judicial appointments.

01:39:42.000 She did some vote trading.

01:39:44.000 I really hope Susan Collins holds on because Maine is a tricky state to get numbers in.

01:39:50.000 Michelle Tafoya is up six points.

01:39:53.000 Tyler's right.

01:39:54.000 They're holding back their vote.

01:39:55.000 It's how much the vote is.

01:39:57.000 And then 0% Hennepin, 0% Ramsey.

01:40:00.000 Which is disgusting.

01:40:01.000 Like, why are they allowed to just never drop their votes like this?

01:40:06.000 It's pathetic.

01:40:07.000 Like, so plenty of big counties have all of their votes counted.

01:40:10.000 Wright County has all their votes counted.

01:40:12.000 Stearns County has all their votes counted.

01:40:13.000 You can't have anything out of Hennepin.

01:40:15.000 Out of all of the uncalled Senate races, which ones do we still feel like we have some sort of shot?

01:40:21.000 I would say Maine, Alaska, Nebraska.

01:40:28.000 So we're taking Michigan and Minnesota off.

01:40:31.000 The board?

01:40:32.000 I was about to give a look to Michigan.

01:40:34.000 I mean, they basically, Wayne County's going to wipe that out.

01:40:38.000 He's, we're at 38.

01:40:40.000 Yeah, they're almost done counting up north.

01:40:42.000 Yeah, I would say at this point, we're as good as done there.

01:40:45.000 Yeah, it's still too early to call, according to NBC.

01:40:48.000 What does New York Times have it as?

01:40:51.000 Let's see here.

01:40:52.000 Yeah, New York Times hasn't called it yet either.

01:40:54.000 It's got him down three.

01:40:57.000 I will tell you, they were projecting that at plus seven earlier.

01:41:02.000 Yeah.

01:41:03.000 And let me see.

01:41:08.000 Yeah, Michigan has been coming down.

01:41:11.000 They're projecting that at plus three.

01:41:13.000 D plus four.

01:41:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:15.000 And Wayne County guys, which is Detroit, they're only at 9% reported right now.

01:41:20.000 They're holding their vote back, too.

01:41:21.000 The upper Midwest and the Philly to the Chicago to the Milwaukee to the Detroit, they all hold their votes back.

01:41:29.000 Hennepin County.

01:41:30.000 So I will say the night started out with Elsa had projected at like a plus seven.

01:41:38.000 Now they have it down to plus 5.3, is where they're projecting this, and a 90% likely chance of El Sayed winning that race.

01:41:47.000 Again, Rodgers ran a great race.

01:41:50.000 I have to say.

01:41:51.000 In a different year, the results would have been very different.

01:41:55.000 How bad did John James lose compared to Rodgers?

01:41:58.000 That's a great question.

01:42:00.000 That's a really great question.

01:42:04.000 Obviously, we don't have the full.

01:42:07.000 John James is losing by eight points.

01:42:12.000 And Rodgers is down by how much?

01:42:13.000 Four currently.

01:42:15.000 So it's a four point difference.

01:42:17.000 Yeah, a lot of people on the ground in Michigan.

01:42:20.000 I mean, that was the consensus that Rodgers had run a very good race, especially compared to John James.

01:42:27.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 Well, shoot, man.

01:42:31.000 We got to think, too, that Rodgers also had, remember, Rodgers had a lot of baggage from his previous races, too.

01:42:45.000 And I feel like you're not supposed to say that, but it's just true that this guy ran and lost statewide already.

01:42:52.000 And he was very much tied with the neocon wing of the party from his days on the House Intel Committee, I believe, and the going all in on Russiagate.

01:43:02.000 Trump now coming out against Abbott.

01:43:04.000 If Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, hadn't become a rhino in the last six months of his political life, he wouldn't have lost.

01:43:11.000 He went back to his original formula, and it wasn't pretty.

01:43:14.000 That's not the.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, I got to disagree politely there.

01:43:19.000 When you see the whole map going like this, That's not what happened here.

01:43:19.000 This is.

01:43:24.000 This was a nationwide rebuke of gas prices, war in Iran.

01:43:32.000 Have you seen the new Trump's putting out the veto hat?

01:43:35.000 Trump tweeted out a hat that says veto in all red.

01:43:38.000 Hold on.

01:43:39.000 We do have to give credit to some trolls sometimes when they have funny tweets.

01:43:43.000 This is the best one I've seen.

01:43:44.000 Trump got regime change in Texas before Iran.

01:43:47.000 Wow.

01:43:48.000 That's pretty good.

01:43:50.000 Yikes.

01:43:51.000 Oh, wow.

01:43:52.000 Oh, wow.

01:43:53.000 According to exit polls, 74% of voters said the Iran war was a Crucial or major factor in their vote.

01:43:53.000 Yeah.

01:43:59.000 62% of those voters cited with the Democrats in today's election.

01:44:05.000 You know, this kind of reminds me, Blake, you know, we get attacked.

01:44:08.000 You know, you saw that in the Dave Smith questioning.

01:44:10.000 We get attacked as being somehow pro war.

01:44:13.000 You and me have been so consistently like.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, I mean, he just.

01:44:17.000 No, but here's the problem.

01:44:19.000 Only one clip went viral.

01:44:20.000 It was the clip from the day of the attacks where we said we're going to have President Trump's back.

01:44:25.000 That's the only clip they've ever seen.

01:44:27.000 So they assume that we're.

01:44:28.000 It is not the only clip they've ever seen.

01:44:29.000 They lie.

01:44:30.000 Dave Smith is a liar.

01:44:31.000 I'm going to say it.

01:44:32.000 You might not say it.

01:44:33.000 I will say it.

01:44:33.000 Dave Smith wanted to come out.

01:44:35.000 I'm going to go for a viral moment and pick a fight over something totally unrelated to what's going on today because I want to be gross.

01:44:43.000 He's a rat.

01:44:44.000 He's a rat who lies and he pals around with people who lie about what happened to Charlie, who will lie about what's going on in this country because they want bad things to happen to this country.

01:44:52.000 What a repulsive person.

01:44:55.000 And I think because they, to your point, they want the viral moment.

01:44:58.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 Well, exactly.

01:44:59.000 And they want to hurt America.

01:45:00.000 It's shameful.

01:45:01.000 It's shameful.

01:45:02.000 It's shameful.

01:45:02.000 He'll go pound around with someone.

01:45:03.000 They'll pound around.

01:45:04.000 Nick Fuentes is going to come out and say, Everyone, vote for a Democrat because we want the party that supports amnesty to win.

01:45:10.000 We want the party that's going to abolish America, trans your kids, nationwide, abortion on demand.

01:45:16.000 Maybe Dave Smith likes that.

01:45:17.000 He's libertarian, but all these people will claim to be conservative on anything.

01:45:21.000 And they're full of crap.

01:45:25.000 And I'm not going to beleaguer the point, but I'm like, Bro, we had this conversation already.

01:45:31.000 I said I supported the victory of getting a deal done because I wanted peace.

01:45:35.000 And somehow that makes me like a pro war.

01:45:38.000 Like it's just disingenuous.

01:45:39.000 It's totally disingenuous.

01:45:40.000 But you've been very consistent.

01:45:41.000 Totally disingenuous.

01:45:43.000 But what's interesting, and I think this is a really important learning opportunity.

01:45:48.000 There are some people in this audience when Blake and I would criticize the war, because we did kind of a lot.

01:45:55.000 And there are some people in this audience that would get mad at us.

01:45:58.000 And you would send us emails saying, Trump is dealing with this problem.

01:46:01.000 No other president had the guts to do it.

01:46:02.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that's true.

01:46:04.000 No other president had the guts to do it.

01:46:07.000 But we were very aware of the fact, and there's people online like Matt Walsh that's hard to disagree with on a night like this.

01:46:13.000 Is that I'd rather Iran have a nuke than for us to be run by communists.

01:46:18.000 And that is a sentiment that a lot of Gen Z, a lot of millennials feel very, very deeply.

01:46:25.000 They wanted to focus on the domestics, not on wars in the Middle East.

01:46:31.000 We had lived through that.

01:46:33.000 We grew up in that.

01:46:34.000 We were saturated in that.

01:46:36.000 And we didn't want it anymore.

01:46:38.000 We had learned so many lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan and all of the death and the treasure lost.

01:46:46.000 In blood and sand.

01:46:48.000 And I don't think that older generations fully understand what we've been raised in and steeped in from a very early age.

01:46:56.000 It's all we've known is war.

01:46:58.000 It's all we've known.

01:46:59.000 And so it's interesting that Dave Smith would have the gall to say that we didn't when we have taken a lot of criticisms from our own audience that's maybe over a certain age that we love and we respect and we value.

01:47:12.000 But there is a generational disconnect that's happening when it comes to foreign policy.

01:47:16.000 I saw you thinking, Cliff.

01:47:18.000 Well, I think a lot of people don't understand that not only has it been our whole lives, I mean, I'm 35, it's like we were lied into the war by Republicans.

01:47:26.000 Let's remember that.

01:47:27.000 And I feel like we fought so hard.

01:47:29.000 Which war?

01:47:33.000 I shouldn't laugh at that.

01:47:34.000 I just feel like we fought so hard to reform the party towards this America first sentiment.

01:47:39.000 And to me, look, this is my number one issue foreign policy.

01:47:43.000 And I think for a lot of people in our age group, it is the number one issue, which is we are tired of the lies, we're tired of not focusing on America.

01:47:52.000 And I really think it's going to be tough to put this coalition back together quickly that understands like you can have different opinions on when we should be at war and who we should be battling, but there's a fundamental misunderstanding from so many in Washington, D.C. about what the proper role of government is.

01:48:11.000 And we finally tapped into that and we built this coalition.

01:48:14.000 And I think tonight was a huge pushback that says, You lost focus.

01:48:19.000 We might have lost focus there.

01:48:20.000 Here's one on this, and I'm trying to.

01:48:23.000 Again, as we know, it's hard to get the exit polls this quickly and get some of the crosstabs, but to help us make these conversations, because I want to try to inject that as much as we can.

01:48:33.000 And so CNN's voter poll, just looking at the 18 to 29 year old voter block, had them winning, going Democrat 72 to 25.

01:48:47.000 So this was an exit poll that Harris, okay, put it this way Republicans won 47% of 18 to 29 in 2024.

01:48:58.000 Now, that number is cut in half to 25.

01:49:02.000 That number is cut in half in just two years from 47% to 25%.

01:49:09.000 Look, I don't want to always reference Charlie, but I do think that when we won the whatever you want to call it 18 to 25, 18 to 30, it was such a much tougher task than I realized until tonight.

01:49:25.000 I think tonight's results make me realize how much.

01:49:29.000 Not just Charlie, but the whole entire turning point apparatus and so many of these people.

01:49:35.000 I mean, my whole life, we were losing young people, right?

01:49:38.000 Young people was the whole thing.

01:49:39.000 If you were young, you were going to vote Democrat.

01:49:39.000 It was always a given.

01:49:42.000 And tonight, it was just a slap in the face of, like, wow.

01:49:46.000 Once again, like, how do we get that coalition back into the mean time?

01:49:49.000 You revert back to the mean time.

01:49:50.000 So Scott Walker's got one up as well.

01:49:52.000 He posted this out of Tufts, the Tisch College of Civic Life, that has, I believe this is today.

01:50:00.000 Yeah, it has today, just 30 minutes ago.

01:50:02.000 So.

01:50:03.000 Republicans won with 65 plus 51 percent, and that's it.

01:50:11.000 Almost tied 45, 46, right?

01:50:12.000 But that's the only.

01:50:12.000 Right, right.

01:50:13.000 But just.

01:50:14.000 The Obama culture.

01:50:15.000 We have to say the only demographic that Republicans won age wise was 65 plus.

01:50:21.000 That's the only one.

01:50:22.000 Every single other age demo voted against Republicans in this cycle.

01:50:28.000 Now, 45 to 64 was the best after at 48.

01:50:32.000 So that was close.

01:50:34.000 And that, if you remember, and I know, Andrew, you and I talked about this a lot.

01:50:38.000 It's Xers to, you know, sort of like just right up to Gen Y.

01:50:42.000 Yeah.

01:50:43.000 That, you know, and I'm constantly talking about the centennials, the elder millennials.

01:50:47.000 I think they vote a little bit differently.

01:50:49.000 And I'd love to see that broken out, specifically that cuss generation.

01:50:52.000 But then, boom, with millennials 30 to 44, it's 60% Democrat.

01:50:58.000 And then Zoomers, 71% Democrat.

01:51:01.000 Yeah.

01:51:02.000 This needs to be a wake up call.

01:51:04.000 So for our boomers out there, we love you.

01:51:08.000 But sometimes when we're telling you things about what the kids are thinking, it's not always because.

01:51:15.000 You know, we're trying to be hard on you guys.

01:51:17.000 It's because we need to make sure that the generations behind us are getting the message and they're getting on board and they believe it.

01:51:23.000 I want to show you something here before we wrap up tonight.

01:51:28.000 And this was a blue tsunami.

01:51:30.000 I think it's fair to say this was a blue tsunami.

01:51:32.000 It's like a blue nuclear bomb.

01:51:34.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 So, but throw this up.

01:51:38.000 This is Matt Van Swall.

01:51:39.000 We got blooked.

01:51:40.000 Matt Van Swall.

01:51:42.000 I gave the graphics.

01:51:43.000 I can put it in the.

01:51:44.000 Make sure you guys have this.

01:51:47.000 I'm just tweeting that.

01:51:49.000 So, this is Matt Van Swall, who's been on the show.

01:51:52.000 He goes, Holy crap, it really is a blue tsunami.

01:51:54.000 This is horrifying.

01:51:56.000 And then Hassan Piker writes back to him, We're going to put your ass in jail, everyone.

01:52:01.000 Get more woke right now, with about 30 exclamation points.

01:52:06.000 So, I think that there's a lot of voters out there that were like, Hey, I'm going to teach President Trump a lesson tonight.

01:52:14.000 I'm going to rebuke the war and gas prices.

01:52:18.000 You have to understand, when you do that, And this was my big question tonight.

01:52:23.000 Would enough voters in enough places understand the threat that we're up against with the radical left that they would reject it?

01:52:30.000 They would hold their nose and reject it?

01:52:33.000 That's the people that you're giving power to.

01:52:35.000 Hassan Piker is going on social media tonight bragging about how many people are going to be arrested.

01:52:41.000 And they're probably going to come for lots of your friends and people that you follow, and people in this room.

01:52:45.000 People in this room.

01:52:46.000 Even though we've done nothing wrong, we just advocate for our ideas.

01:52:49.000 That's not what the radical left thinks.

01:52:51.000 Well, and.

01:52:54.000 And I'll just say it, and people who aren't in this room, that people who should be sitting right there.

01:52:59.000 And as we sit here and have those conversations, and all these conversations, and do the analysis, and we get wrapped up in that, that the reason that Erica brought that shirt in today wasn't just so as a reminder that, of course, Charlie is with us, and of course, Charlie is watching, and of course, Charlie is telling us to get in there and work harder starting tomorrow, right?

01:53:22.000 Because we know that's what he would always do when we were in.

01:53:25.000 In this room four years ago today, in a similar situation, that at the same time, it is a reminder of why Charlie's not with us today.

01:53:37.000 Well, listen, people, God is not done with America.

01:53:41.000 I don't believe that for a second.

01:53:43.000 And we said at the beginning of this evening lose, win, lose, or draw.

01:53:50.000 We keep fighting.

01:53:51.000 What happens if we lose?

01:53:52.000 We keep fighting.

01:53:53.000 What happens if we win?

01:53:54.000 We keep fighting.

01:53:55.000 And so that's what's going to happen.

01:53:58.000 We're going to keep fighting.

01:53:59.000 And we know that tonight was a tough night.

01:54:02.000 It was a tough night for us, too.

01:54:03.000 It's a tough night to give you those results.

01:54:06.000 But if we take the right lessons from this, there is always hope in the future.

01:54:10.000 We have been down as a conservative movement before, and we have to get ourselves right back up off the mat.

01:54:16.000 Charlie would do that.

01:54:17.000 Charlie would demand everybody turn around tomorrow.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, have a night.

01:54:22.000 Take some time.

01:54:23.000 Tomorrow night, we fight again.

01:54:25.000 Tomorrow morning, it starts.

01:54:27.000 And so, anyways, tough night.

01:54:29.000 There's no getting around it, no coping or hopium that will assuage that truth.

01:54:35.000 We got shellacked.

01:54:36.000 It was a blue tsunami, as predicted.

01:54:38.000 So, tomorrow, we start fighting again.

01:54:41.000 And until then, God bless you.

01:54:43.000 Thank you for joining our stream tonight.

01:54:46.000 Thanks, Jack, for coming.

01:54:47.000 I know you traveled here.

01:54:48.000 It's tradition.

01:54:49.000 Mr. Maloney, first time in person, right?

01:54:52.000 That's true.

01:54:53.000 First time.

01:54:54.000 It was a terrible first time.

01:54:55.000 This would be the first and last time.

01:54:58.000 Get back to Pennsylvania, man.

01:54:58.000 Get out of here.

01:55:00.000 Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett, who is one of our rising stars.

01:55:04.000 Brett, thank you for joining us tonight.

01:55:06.000 You were Bright Star Brett, Bright Spot Brett, I should say.

01:55:11.000 So thank you for that.

01:55:13.000 Listen, we fight on.

01:55:15.000 There is no turning back.

01:55:17.000 Never surrender, never surrender, never surrender.

01:55:20.000 God bless you guys.

01:55:21.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

01:55:26.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 04, 2026

Surviving The Bluenami: 2026 Election Night Reaction

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