The Charlie Kirk Show - The American People Deserve the Truth — Charlie and PBD on The Unusual Suspects Live at AmFest

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, my conversation with Patrick Bett David live from AmericaFest.

00:00:05.000 We had a great dialogue back and forth on the PBD Unusual Suspects show, so check it out.

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00:00:21.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:22.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:24.000 I want you to know we are lucky.

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00:00:28.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:31.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:32.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:01:19.000 Welcome to the show, PBD. To pick up where you left up, I want to give you credit.

00:01:22.000 You predicted this.

00:01:24.000 The puppet master, President Elon Musk.

00:01:26.000 Two months ago.

00:01:27.000 Yeah, we talked about this on the podcast yesterday.

00:01:29.000 Your thoughts on what's going on with Elon, Trump, Charlie, everything.

00:01:34.000 You predicted this sort of alignment.

00:01:36.000 What are your thoughts?

00:01:36.000 So I think what Charlie said is very important because I'm not with Elon and Trump.

00:01:42.000 If anybody knows that, it's him.

00:01:45.000 It's the people that are on the inside.

00:01:47.000 And if they say it's good, that's all that matters.

00:01:49.000 That relationship needs to stay so strong and tight.

00:01:54.000 They're going to play games.

00:01:55.000 You know, in anything you do in life, the moment you win at the highest level, the enemy doesn't like it.

00:02:02.000 What comes next is flattery.

00:02:04.000 And here's how flattery comes.

00:02:06.000 Flattery comes in and says, hey, J.D., just so you know, Trump would have never won without you.

00:02:10.000 Oh, man.

00:02:11.000 Everybody knows.

00:02:12.000 We all talk about it.

00:02:13.000 When people say things like that, hey, Bobby, just so you know, he wouldn't have won without you.

00:02:18.000 You're the real reason why he won.

00:02:19.000 The divisive nature is out there.

00:02:22.000 This is so correct.

00:02:23.000 This is not going away anytime soon.

00:02:25.000 So imagine my relationship with Charlie, right?

00:02:28.000 I've had a great relationship with Charlie.

00:02:30.000 Charlie and I have a good relationship together.

00:02:32.000 Somebody calls me and tells me things about...

00:02:34.000 Me to pump me up over Charlie or go to Charlie.

00:02:37.000 We play two different games.

00:02:39.000 We both are fighting the same cause.

00:02:41.000 But the fact that we stay united, there is nothing more intimidating to the enemy than a party or a team or a family or a company that stays united.

00:02:51.000 Do you know how scary that is?

00:02:53.000 And by the way, you can't even laugh when they compliment you.

00:02:56.000 You can't even say, hey, you know, it's really about you.

00:02:59.000 I had a list of top ten people that helped Trump win the election.

00:03:03.000 I have them in the top five.

00:03:04.000 And I've said this everywhere.

00:03:07.000 What he did with TikTok, that strategy, the way he broke it down, I think everybody here watching this should go and hear the way he broke down what they did TikTok.

00:03:18.000 You go to the enemy, and then you find a way to...

00:03:22.000 Create content there.

00:03:23.000 How many young people watched and had their ideas changed?

00:03:27.000 How many people sat there and said, you know, I never thought about this before.

00:03:29.000 Look what's going on here at Turning Point USA. How many people came here because they saw the content that he posted on TikTok?

00:03:35.000 To me...

00:03:36.000 The more united they stay, the more afraid the enemy is going to be, and that's very important.

00:03:42.000 PBD, you are spot on.

00:03:43.000 So if you think of, you look at just CIA playbook psychological operations, the top five things, how do you destabilize a government, how do you try to fracture a power center?

00:03:52.000 They're going to try to run this play. 0.85

00:03:53.000 The first thing they have to do is they have to try to create daylight and schism amongst this power alliance of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

00:04:00.000 It is play number one.

00:04:01.000 Because think about it, that is too much.

00:04:03.000 It's too much power.

00:04:04.000 It is too ascendant, right?

00:04:05.000 You got $400 billion.

00:04:06.000 You got Twitter.

00:04:07.000 You got X. You got SpaceX.

00:04:08.000 You got a boring company, Neuralink.

00:04:10.000 I mean, and the world's wealthiest.

00:04:12.000 And that's the most popular man besides Trump.

00:04:14.000 So they have to try to create a schism there.

00:04:17.000 So if I was the Democrats, I would go all in on any means necessary of stories, leaks, you know, oh, Donald Trump is mad at, Elon Musk is mad at, and it's all BS. I can just tell you this, I've seen it with my own eyes, I know all the people involved, you know, gotten to know Elon, he's amazing, obviously know the president very well, that there is no daylight between the two, and they are in harmony and lockstep to continue to fulfill this mandate and the agenda.

00:04:39.000 But you guys have to know this, the Democrats, that is their initial play, and it's a very smart play.

00:04:43.000 Because all of a sudden, if you can start to divide, then you can start to pick apart the administration, turn people against each other.

00:04:48.000 Because if Elon remains in lockstep, if Elon remains in harmony with our movement, we're talking about an 8-, 12-, 16-, 20-year reign, the likes of which we could have never dreamed before.

00:04:58.000 Because Elon represents the thing the Democrats thought they had.

00:05:02.000 They thought they had full oligarch control, that every oligarch was behind the Democrats.

00:05:06.000 They thought they had Bezos.

00:05:07.000 They thought they had Zuckerberg.

00:05:08.000 Now, they're obviously defecting away because of recent political events.

00:05:11.000 The Democrat Party is now saying if this is sustained, they see the writing on the wall, and the earlier they could try to divide the two and create this fake fissure, this schism, the quicker they think they can get back to power.

00:05:22.000 Can I tell you why you guys are absolutely right?

00:05:25.000 Did you see what Elon Musk tweeted today?

00:05:28.000 No.

00:05:28.000 He said the following.

00:05:29.000 This is exactly their goal.

00:05:31.000 Elon Musk.

00:05:32.000 Political and legacy media puppets all got their new instructions yesterday and are now parroting the same message to drive a wedge between...

00:05:40.000 The real Donald Trump and me.

00:05:42.000 They will fail.

00:05:44.000 Signed, Elon Musk.

00:05:45.000 And here's what's so great, is that they were too transparent and too naked with their psychological operation that it's now backfiring, that now this play will then be flushed out as you guys are obviously trying to divide us, let's grow closer together.

00:05:56.000 And so they overplayed their hand, and also we are now at a heightened state of awareness because we understand the media lies that we're constantly being opt.

00:06:05.000 That now the fact that he tweeted that means that they're all going to grow closer together.

00:06:08.000 He's going to double and triple and quadruple down.

00:06:10.000 And I can't say that.

00:06:11.000 A decade ago, I don't know if that tweet would have been sent.

00:06:13.000 It would have been like, oh, I don't know about this.

00:06:15.000 I'm cautious of you.

00:06:16.000 Now when the op is being run, it was so obvious.

00:06:18.000 Every Democrat got their marching orders, tried to do this.

00:06:21.000 In fact, they were creating images with Grok that, you know, Elon was actually president or the king and Donald Trump.

00:06:26.000 All a bunch of BS. But now the fact that they identified it, spotted it, shows that the Musk-Trump duo is only going to continue.

00:06:34.000 That's awesome.

00:06:34.000 So, Charlie, besides Doge, which, I mean, Elon and Vivek, that says, like, I'm excited.

00:06:40.000 The Department of Government Officials.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, like, it's almost like a Super Bowl is coming.

00:06:43.000 We can't wait.

00:06:44.000 Who is your favorite appointment that is coming in that's going to be, who do you have?

00:06:48.000 I mean, Bobby Kennedy.

00:06:52.000 ...at the FBI. Oh, that's my favorite.

00:06:54.000 And Tulsi Gabbard at DNI. Oh.

00:06:56.000 And Kash Patel especially.

00:06:58.000 I'm telling you, this guy getting in charge of America's secret police is, that alone, if Trump just does that and just gulfs for the next four years, is a game changer when it comes to lawfare and the investigations.

00:07:09.000 Yeah.

00:07:10.000 Now, Bobby Kennedy, understand this, it's not the Department of Defense.

00:07:13.000 It's not Medicare.

00:07:14.000 The thing we spend the most money on in this country is health and human services.

00:07:19.000 $1.6 trillion a year is the HHS budget.

00:07:23.000 That is Donald Trump giving a middle finger to Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson& Johnson, the Goliath drug companies that have done so much damage to this country, and then Tulsi Gabbard.

00:07:33.000 I'm a big believer that a nation that keeps secrets unnecessarily from its people cannot survive.

00:07:39.000 That a government that keeps secrets from its people is an illegitimate government.

00:07:43.000 The DNI is the keeper of America's secrets.

00:07:45.000 Pelosi Gabbard must be confirmed as DNI director.

00:07:48.000 We deserve, as the American people, the truth of what happened on July 13th when Donald Trump got shot.

00:07:53.000 The truth of what happened on January 6th and the pipe bombs and who planted them on the RNC and the DNC. And most importantly, the truth.

00:07:59.000 Of the JFK assassination.

00:08:01.000 We deserve those files to be declassified immediately and Tulsi Gabbard would deliver on the front.

00:08:05.000 I agree. 0.88

00:08:05.000 Oh, that's so friggin'. 0.88

00:08:06.000 I think, and mine, Charlie, being Kash Patel, I think you tweeted this, Charlie, and I was following it along. 0.93

00:08:13.000 We talked about it on the PPD podcast a while ago, that just the FBI, Christopher Wray stepping down in January, obviously.

00:08:19.000 To me, they're the most politically biased from all the way from Russia collusion.

00:08:23.000 And dangerous.

00:08:24.000 They could just raid your house for no reason.

00:08:25.000 Whenever the hell they want.

00:08:26.000 Yeah, who are the ones?

00:08:28.000 Who are the main...

00:08:29.000 Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, that whole... 0.98

00:08:31.000 Andy McCain, that whole freaking crew. 0.99

00:08:33.000 That's right. 0.99

00:08:33.000 So, Charlie, George Floyd, the coroner... 0.99

00:08:36.000 We just found out that the coroner changed the autopsy notes after a visit from the FBI. Let's all let that sink in.

00:08:42.000 No, this is legit.

00:08:44.000 That's skit. 0.52

00:08:44.000 Like, think about that. 0.52

00:08:45.000 Changed the notes.

00:08:46.000 Why?

00:08:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:47.000 Because they wanted to make sure it wasn't because of the drugs, the fentanyl that he had in him.

00:08:52.000 When did this come out?

00:08:53.000 A couple days ago.

00:08:54.000 It just came up.

00:08:54.000 Changed the Hennepin County original medical autopsy, which you remember, they say he did not die of strangulation.

00:09:03.000 Or asphyxiation.

00:09:05.000 They died of that.

00:09:06.000 It wasn't the drugs.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, that's correct.

00:09:07.000 So it was...

00:09:08.000 They lied.

00:09:11.000 Well, oh, it's the FBI. So that's number one.

00:09:13.000 But you're saying it was the coroner.

00:09:14.000 The coroner.

00:09:15.000 Well, the FBI visited him.

00:09:16.000 Well, remember, the original coroner report was completely different than what was submitted as evidence in Chauvin's trial.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:21.000 So this is the third.

00:09:22.000 And he's requesting samples from his blood and his heart and all that stuff.

00:09:27.000 And then, Charlie, so that's coming down to January 6th, which we talked about, which I believe...

00:09:32.000 I would not even believe.

00:09:33.000 We found out not only were there undercover agents inside the crowd, there was 26 humans, what were they called?

00:09:40.000 Confidential human sources.

00:09:41.000 Confidential human sources, which are spies.

00:09:43.000 These aren't appointed.

00:09:44.000 These are people that were caught.

00:09:46.000 They were snitches.

00:09:47.000 They got caught, and now they have to work for them.

00:09:49.000 How deep do you think that went?

00:09:51.000 Because if that's the truth, then they were the ones provoking it.

00:09:53.000 They're the ones that made January 6th happen.

00:09:56.000 Well, this is why DNI is so important.

00:09:57.000 Exactly.

00:09:58.000 And DNI is the keeper of America's secrets.

00:10:00.000 In fact, the way that DNI was chartered, it didn't exist before 9-11.

00:10:03.000 It was supposed to be the superseding authority above CIA, above DHS, above Five Eyes.

00:10:09.000 DNI is the central nervous system of all the intel networks, and Tulsi Gabbard can fix that.

00:10:14.000 So as far as January 6th goes, all that's important.

00:10:16.000 I think the key that we have to focus on, because you can't focus on everything, is one question.

00:10:21.000 Who planted the pipe bombs?

00:10:22.000 The pipe bombs are everything.

00:10:24.000 Remember, they were planted at both the RNC and the DNC. We know everybody that was at the Capitol.

00:10:29.000 We know grandmas that were praying in the Capitol Rotunda.

00:10:32.000 We know people that were waving U.S. Constitution flags.

00:10:35.000 Wait a second.

00:10:35.000 There were pipe bombs at the place where the vice president, Kamala Harris, the soon-to-be vice president, was visiting.

00:10:41.000 She visited the DNC, and we don't know who planted those pipe bombs.

00:10:44.000 Those are the heaviest charges that have yet to be filed, because we all know who planted the pipe bombs.

00:10:49.000 We know that it was probably, almost assuredly, a government contractor, an FBI agent, that planted these pipe bombs at both.

00:10:55.000 And who, by the way, who plants them both at the RNC and the DNC? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

00:10:59.000 Well, it only makes sense as if...

00:11:01.000 January 6th did not, if the Capitol storming did not work and they needed to create some sort of a narrative that Donald Trump's people were creating terror that day.

00:11:11.000 There is so much wrong with what happened with the pipe bombs.

00:11:14.000 We do not have an arrest.

00:11:15.000 We don't have a suspect.

00:11:17.000 Who was it?

00:11:18.000 We find that out.

00:11:19.000 We can get down to the fundamental core that our government, like so many other things, was actively involved.

00:11:25.000 Not just covering it up.

00:11:26.000 But involved in the practice and the execution of the events on January 6th.

00:11:31.000 And Charlie, going back to, you were talking about all these people coming in and flipping the table upside down.

00:11:37.000 I mean, we're talking about going after Big Pharma.

00:11:40.000 We're talking about going after Big Food.

00:11:41.000 Charlie, these are big time...

00:11:44.000 This is no joke.

00:11:47.000 We know what these people are about.

00:11:48.000 How fearful are you and how fearful should Donald Trump be?

00:11:52.000 We still don't know who this Thomas Crooks.

00:11:54.000 We found out who Luigi Mangione was.

00:11:57.000 In six hours, we know his life, the letters he wrote, his ex-girlfriends. 0.86

00:12:00.000 He might be gay. 0.65

00:12:01.000 We still don't know.

00:12:02.000 Thomas Crooks had six cell phones.

00:12:04.000 We don't know nothing about that guy.

00:12:06.000 How fearful should Donald Trump be still?

00:12:08.000 There's less than how many days?

00:12:10.000 Listen, 29 days, how fearful should he be?

00:12:13.000 And even if he's in, Charlie, they're still in there.

00:12:15.000 The deep state is not going anywhere.

00:12:17.000 I mean, look, I pray for his safety every single day, and we should all pray for his safety.

00:12:22.000 I think he's only alive thanks to the grace of God, and they try to kill him again, and they try to kill him again.

00:12:26.000 And, look, I mean, I don't want to say how fearful he is because Donald Trump is not an afraid man.

00:12:31.000 He has every reason not to leave Mar-a-Lago for the next 29 days, but he's coming here on Sunday because he's not an afraid man to come address all of you.

00:12:40.000 So, the best way I can answer the question, though, is Donald Trump's strategy seems to be, I'm not going to pick one fight, I'm going to pick every single fight, and we're going to lose some and win some, and we're going to flood the zone, and we're going to do things that the deep state don't like, and we have to understand, like, when you storm a beach, not everyone's going to make it, right?

00:12:54.000 But eventually some people are going to pierce through, and you're going to do some remarkable things.

00:12:58.000 I mean, think about it.

00:12:59.000 It's not just Bobby Kennedy, it's Tulsi Gabbard, it's Kash Patel, it's Pam Bondi, and then once we do, once we're in it, it's Russ Vogt at OMB. I mean, with Stephen Miller doing the immigration stuff, the media will not be able to keep up with all of this.

00:13:10.000 And that is the brilliance of the strategy.

00:13:12.000 The traditional Republican playbook is like, pick one or two controversial things and focus on it.

00:13:17.000 No, no, no.

00:13:17.000 We're in a brave new world, guys.

00:13:19.000 We are in a new era completely.

00:13:20.000 We are going to do 15 simultaneously game-changing things with people that have a dedicated scope of work, and you are not going to be able to cover it.

00:13:28.000 You're not going to be able to stop it.

00:13:29.000 We are going to flood the zone because we are the media.

00:13:32.000 We are the media.

00:13:33.000 And if we get half of it, America will be a fundamentally better place because of it.

00:13:38.000 By the way, that's why we worked as hard as we worked at Turning Point Action.

00:13:41.000 That's why you guys worked as hard as you worked, because we wanted a revolutionary change in our government, not just neat reorganizing around the edges.

00:13:49.000 Charlie, amazing answer right there.

00:13:51.000 By the way, I want to focus this question on young men.

00:13:54.000 You see that guy right there?

00:13:55.000 That young man right there?

00:13:56.000 Little Tico right there.

00:13:57.000 Patrick Bet-David.

00:13:58.000 Round of applause for this young man right now.

00:14:00.000 Patrick!

00:14:00.000 He's my boy!

00:14:01.000 Patrick's son.

00:14:02.000 Young men, what you're doing on universities, what you're talking about.

00:14:05.000 You didn't go to college.

00:14:06.000 I love when you just dismantle people.

00:14:08.000 When you're saying, yeah, I didn't go to college.

00:14:10.000 I didn't get a degree.

00:14:11.000 I read.

00:14:12.000 I learned.

00:14:12.000 By the way, same with PBD. Advice for young men.

00:14:16.000 Entrepreneurship.

00:14:16.000 Did you not go to college?

00:14:17.000 No.

00:14:18.000 We have that in common?

00:14:19.000 Yeah, zero.

00:14:20.000 I love that.

00:14:20.000 Shout out to the entrepreneurs out there.

00:14:23.000 I don't know how to read.

00:14:24.000 Pico, you're going to go to college, buddy.

00:14:25.000 He taught me how to read.

00:14:26.000 His son taught me how to read.

00:14:27.000 But I want to get yours.

00:14:28.000 Adam, what's your point?

00:14:30.000 Thank you, Tom.

00:14:32.000 I want to get your advice and also Peabody's advice to young men like that.

00:14:36.000 That are about to grow up.

00:14:38.000 They're 12, they're 13, they're 16, they're 18. You've got college kids everywhere.

00:14:41.000 Best advice for them.

00:14:43.000 We all know college has been a scam.

00:14:45.000 What should young men do in approach?

00:14:46.000 I think number one is that if you have drive and you have hustle, it is the irreplaceable ingredient in business and in life.

00:14:54.000 People say, Charlie, how do you do all this?

00:14:56.000 I mean, look, yeah, intelligence, I guess, is part of it, but you have to want it more than the person that you are up against, and that is putting in more hours and dedicating yourself to it.

00:15:05.000 There is no replacement to having this kind of...

00:15:08.000 This all-encompassing drive of your body and your being.

00:15:11.000 Be a voracious learner and read as much as you can and learn as much as you can as early as possible.

00:15:16.000 Find people who are really good at what you do.

00:15:19.000 Study them intimately.

00:15:20.000 Read everything about them.

00:15:21.000 Absorb them.

00:15:22.000 Become like them.

00:15:23.000 And ask them good questions.

00:15:25.000 And then also, the more that you understand the forsaking of immediate pleasure is a necessary ingredient to long-term success.

00:15:36.000 Delayed gratification built Western civilization.

00:15:38.000 So that means, as young men, save yourself sexually for marriage.

00:15:41.000 That means don't do drugs.

00:15:42.000 Don't drink alcohol.

00:15:43.000 I know this might not be the most popular message, but if you want to be successful and operate at a high frequency, PBD will attest to this, that the most successful people are not the people hanging out at 1 a.m.

00:15:53.000 with the bars.

00:15:53.000 It's the people that are going to bed at the right time and waking up at 5 or 6 a.m.

00:15:57.000 Turning Point USA was not built, you know, at a hookah lounge.

00:15:59.000 It just wasn't, right?

00:16:01.000 I see where he went there.

00:16:02.000 You went Middle Eastern.

00:16:03.000 I get it, Charlie.

00:16:04.000 Good, good analogy.

00:16:05.000 Charlie, there's exceptions to every rule, okay?

00:16:07.000 Fair enough.

00:16:08.000 Some people take different approaches.

00:16:09.000 But I will say this, though, that if you want to be excellent, then be excellent at things that deeply matter.

00:16:15.000 And PBD, I'm sure you agree with what I'm saying here.

00:16:17.000 Oh, listen, you know, for me, you know, the way we start companies is by...

00:16:23.000 Producing something that doesn't exist.

00:16:25.000 Like PBD Podcast, we created it because we wanted a show like that that guys are just sitting around talking and just regular people, right?

00:16:32.000 We wanted a show like that.

00:16:33.000 Manect, we wanted something like that.

00:16:35.000 You have no idea how glad I am that you started Turning Point USA. Thank you.

00:16:43.000 Let me tell you guys why I'm glad.

00:16:44.000 I got four kids, right?

00:16:46.000 And my 12-year-old is here, Tico.

00:16:49.000 They're going to be coming every year.

00:16:50.000 I mean, it's going to be something where they're going to be coming every year.

00:16:52.000 I love it.

00:16:52.000 You know, with their scheduling permitting, they're going to come out.

00:16:54.000 And you typically do it at a time that we're leaving town.

00:16:57.000 So he forces me back from vacation with the wife. 0.89

00:17:00.000 And then I got to come, go back to them right after this.

00:17:03.000 But I'll do it for Charlie because I think this is such an important organization.

00:17:06.000 Thank you.

00:17:07.000 Community matters.

00:17:09.000 Community matters.

00:17:10.000 This may be right now the biggest conservative gang in the world for the youth called Turning Point USA. And this gang is built on the right values, principles, pride in their country, respect for their God, the different things that this country has given them.

00:17:27.000 There is nothing like knowing that something like this exists.

00:17:30.000 And I have so much respect for you, the fact that you keep growing it.

00:17:34.000 Your drive and fire.

00:17:36.000 Your drive and fire is so important.

00:17:38.000 I have nothing to say.

00:17:39.000 His answer was so flawless.

00:17:41.000 But community will matter as well.

00:17:43.000 So I'm glad you're doing this.

00:17:44.000 Thank you.

00:17:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 12, 2025

The American People Deserve the Truth — Charlie and PBD on The Unusual Suspects Live at AmFest

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