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00:01:27.000And we are getting this show started off with a bang because we have Andy Biggs, Congressman Andy Biggs, future governor of the great state of Arizona, State 48.
00:01:37.000He's on the road and he said, Well, I can't do video because I'm going to be in a car headed to an event.
00:01:41.000And I said, That's exactly where we want you to be.
00:01:45.000So he's calling in Congressman, future governor, Andy Biggs.
00:03:17.000I was going on YouTube, minding my own business, Congressman.
00:03:20.000And all of a sudden, I see this Katie Hobbs ad, and she says that you are actually the one that's going to raise taxes and that she's going to cut taxes.
00:03:31.000I don't know if you've seen this ad, but I was like, Reality has inverted.
00:04:33.000You know, you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, I suppose some people will believe it, but anybody who's aware and sentient should know that it's totally fabricated.
00:05:31.000You're like, hey, our property tax is probably one of the lowest in the country, but we could probably do better.
00:05:35.000So it's just, it was striking to me, sir, that.
00:05:38.000She was so willing to lie, or at least her campaign was, whether she knows it or not, is so willing to lie about one of the most obvious lies.
00:06:31.000And, you know, Andrew, part of this is she's out of money in her own campaign.
00:06:36.000Most of the ads that you're seeing, these are coming from California, New York, Donors, these out of state major donors that have dumped millions and millions in here.
00:06:47.000So she's oblivious anyway, under the best of circumstances, but she's certainly, her donors basically want to Californiaize Arizona.
00:07:38.000It's like she's a non entity, there's no vision, there's no direction.
00:07:44.000It's just sort of like we every so often hear about her because she.
00:07:48.000You know, she is involved in some scandal.0.93
00:07:49.000Yeah, she screwed up the water, or she's involved in some scandal with some sunshine group that, you know, she gives some kickbacks to.0.83
00:09:24.000Because the policy would be there to stop us from becoming Californians.1.00
00:09:28.000That tells you what she would be like.
00:09:30.000And the third thing I'd say is this anybody that won't debate you, but is willing to slander you and lie about you when she knows they're lies, she knows that virtually everything she's saying is a lie.
00:10:46.000He has been a I tried and true conservative when the heat was the most intense because it's time for us to not just make America great again, but make Arizona great again and make Andy Biggs the next governor of this great state.
00:12:06.000Charlie was a friend, but he was somebody that I had incredible respect for because Charlie, quite frankly, created a movement that I think will go on as his legacy.
00:12:20.000But he was actually a generational change agent.
00:12:25.000And to have him endorse me and believe in me, And we were simpatico on these issues.
00:12:32.000I believe in these things as well as he does.
00:15:46.000She's refusing to debate her opponent, but she's really just hiding from us.1.00
00:15:50.000If she can't face the voters, she can't run Arizona.
00:15:56.000That end of that is really, it sums it up for me.
00:15:59.000If she's unwilling to defend her ideas, or as you said, to defend her lies about you, I mean, she's blatantly, brazenly lying about you, then she's not fit to run this state.
00:16:11.000I mean, there's a thousand reasons you could say it, but that is very true.
00:16:15.000So, what's your message to Katie Hobbs right here, right here, right now?
00:16:20.000Katie Hobbs, I was, Katie, you need to come.
00:17:05.000They have nothing that is popular with the public.
00:17:08.000So you take any issue that you and I talked about this morning and you run a poll on it, about 75% of Americans are going to agree with my position on it.
00:17:30.000The fact that she's lying about being a tax cutter when she's a tax raiser is proof that it's kind of like a backhanded compliment that she understands that your ideas are the more popular ideas in the state and she's trying to lie about her own policy and background and resume here.
00:17:45.000I just want to say, Congressman, future governor of the state of Arizona, we have your back 100%.
00:18:17.000It'll be the time of your life and you're going to be contributing to something that is bigger than yourself, which is what Charlie always wanted.
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00:19:33.000See why so many believers are taking a leap of faith?
00:22:41.000The last thing I'll say about it, because I know you don't want to do the whole discussion about this, but I hope you got that thing printed out and framed, man, because you'll never get an article that good again.
00:22:54.000You know, I just, you know, Blake is a free speech absolutist, and so I just want to give him the opportunity to, you know, ask you the first question.
00:23:16.000I feel like that should make us feel very secure, but we know this is a combative midterm and a lot of people are freaking out.
00:23:22.000You know, a lot of people on all sides.
00:23:25.000What's the mood in Washington and do you think that mood is accurate?
00:23:28.000I haven't lived in Washington in 35 years, so I can't tell you what the mood in Washington is, but I'll tell you what the mood in America is.
00:23:34.000The mood in America is gas prices are too high, everything costs too much, the Iran war was a big mistake, and a message should be sent to the president.
00:23:44.000I have a very bifurcated view of where we are and where we're going.
00:23:49.000Unless James Blair makes the best negative ads of all time and builds the best turnout operation of all time, there will be a blue tsunami that will wipe out not only nearly everyone, not everyone, but nearly everyone being discussed as in danger of losing as a Republican, but people who aren't even being talked about now.
00:24:07.000I'm not predicting that, and I'm not rooting for it, obviously.
00:24:10.000My reporting extensively with Republicans and looking at the current data is Republicans could lose nine Senate seats, Republicans could lose 35 House seats.
00:25:59.000It's a mistake, I believe, for the party, if they want to be realistic, to cherry pick four or five races and say, hey, if these five are going okay, it must mean it's not so bad everywhere else.
00:26:12.000It's really bad right now everywhere else.
00:26:14.000So if we're talking, as you said, minus nine seats, what are seats you maybe don't hear people talk about that suddenly could be a flashing light as we approach election night or on election night out of nowhere for a lot of people?
00:26:28.000Just go to the Cook Political Report and look at the seats that are called lean Republican and solid Republican.
00:26:34.000Every one of those could be wiped away.
00:26:36.000I mean, the analog on the Senate side is Roger Marshall.
00:26:42.000He's a perfectly good Republican incumbent senator in a red, red state, redder than the YouTube check mark, supported by both MAGA and the establishment, raised plenty of money, working hard, running against a guy who's a first time candidate.
00:27:09.000There's a Republican consultant who tweeted the other day, if you're working for a Republican and you haven't polled lately, I recommend you do.
00:27:17.000And another Republican consultant sub tweeted him.
00:27:19.000They were doing all this in public, ladies and gentlemen, like the private conversations.
00:27:23.000Another Republican consultant tweeted him and said, You better, that applies to Trump plus 15 districts.
00:27:30.000If you're in a district that's plus 15, you better poll because right now there's a good chance you're losing.
00:29:30.000I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just want to be clear.
00:29:33.000As I said before, I'm not rooting for this outcome and I'm not predicting it because I believe James Blair and you all and efforts like yours, this is unprecedented.
00:29:40.000There's never been a cash advantage under the command and control of an experienced, aggressive operator who's running against a party who's aligned with the socialists, running against a party who've nominated in almost every significant race weak candidates.
00:29:55.000So let's wait and see where we are in three weeks because Turning Point has proven that well organized efforts to contact voters, register them, and get them to the polls can make a real difference in the outcome of elections.
00:30:09.000So in the past, it was like kind of a you know, you think back to the 90s, early 2000s, you get frustrated with one party, you make them pay, you send a message, you go for the other party.
00:30:19.000But you basically had the assumption that even though you could disagree with some of the policies, you were still going to have a functional republic.
00:30:35.000But you also don't have a party that's like the way it was in the past.
00:30:40.000This is a much more radical, much more left wing party now that is run by the activist base.
00:30:46.000And I believe that if you are a normie, kind of low information, I don't mean that as pejorative, you're busy living your lives, you're assuming the people are adults and they're serious, that you just vote the other way to send a message and get your message across.
00:31:00.000However, I don't think people are internalizing the way that Democrats have shifted.
00:31:24.000And we agree with the socialists about a lot.
00:31:27.000We agree with them about health care and child care, et cetera, et cetera.
00:31:32.000The theory of how the blue tsunami is tamed involves getting word out about the nature, not just of the handful of socialist candidates, but how far left the Democratic Party's gone.
00:31:47.000It's not a slander or a slur or a piece of spin.
00:31:51.000None of us have been alive when the Democratic Party has been this left.
00:32:23.000Yeah, I'm not a political strategist, but what I see in the ads is two things.
00:32:28.000One is everything you just said, some of the culture stuff, that the governor, a gubernatorial candidate in Texas, Hinojosa, She was on Morning Joe and they asked her if all the cultural stuff was still a factor.
00:32:42.000She said, no, voters have moved past that.
00:32:45.000I don't think voters have moved past trans athletes and women's sports and locker rooms and girls.
00:32:50.000So I think you'll see a lot of that, a lot of economics.
00:32:54.000But it's also, I think, the idiosyncratic weaknesses of individual candidates, right?
00:33:00.000Some of these Democrats are so inexperienced.
00:33:02.000Like, for instance, the woman running against Mike Lawler in New York, she took a couple hundred grand from the AI industry.
00:33:18.000So it's got to be an air war that's national, trans issues, the fact that these people are openly talking about abolishing the Senate, abolishing prisons, abolishing ICE, abolishing, packing the court, abolishing the Senate.0.59
00:34:59.000I don't know why Piker, why El Sad doesn't just say that, but he just, for whatever reason, he's not created the distance that the press and a lot of voters think he needs to.
00:35:09.000And it seems like it's going to be an issue all the way through the end.
00:35:12.000Mark, that was what you said, I think, is going to stick with me for a while.
00:35:17.000None of us have lived through a Democrat party that is this radically left.
00:35:23.000And we need to, as somebody that's very committed to my conservative principles and supporting conservative candidates, I can tell you that I think you're right.
00:35:31.000And I think we need to do a better job messaging that.
00:35:34.000Mark Halperin, thank you for making time today.
00:35:41.000And, Blake, please handle all my media relations.
00:35:47.000This is the home of free speech absolutism.
00:35:53.000If you're looking at your investment portfolio and feeling pretty smart right now, remember a bull market can make anyone look like a genius.
00:36:00.000If you've had a good run, the question is whether you keep it.
00:36:03.000The people who act early do it from a position of strength.
00:37:44.000Apparently, she said, I wanted someone over 70 who's a great actor, and that there's just no one, so I just had to pick a woman, even though Liam Neeson, who did Aslan, I believe is now over 70.
00:37:54.000But if she's still available, you couldn't use the same voice out of that.
00:37:58.000It's a little, I feel like you could have.
00:37:59.000I don't think anyone would have minded.
00:38:12.000Daisy has a blue eye and her right eye is blue and her left eye is brown.0.81
00:38:17.000And weirdly, it took me about six months to notice this or something.
00:38:20.000It's either like people will notice it, like I'm in the gas station and they'll notice it and say something, or I'll know someone for years before they ever even realize.
00:38:29.000But I, truthfully, I sometimes don't listen to Thought Crime Live when we're in the office because I know I'm going to have to edit it in the next.
00:38:35.000Two days, but I'm like, I'd rather be surprised.
00:38:43.000If you go and hit yourself in the head with a hammer repeatedly, you could be surprised again.0.99
00:38:47.000Well, there are so many times, Blake, as you know, inside baseball for y'all, that Blake and I do have to listen to the same episode four or five times.
00:38:54.000Or we'll do it live and then we'll have to listen to it and then there will be something that we have to add in or we're writing copy and I'm like, oh, I forgot what they talked about.
00:39:04.000I would say, I think nobody has listened to more. Charlie Kirk show than Daisy and I because we have to listen to most episodes.
00:39:10.000Well, I remember the early days where I was booking it, editing it, writing the copy, uploading it.
00:39:17.000But then we got to three hours, and then it's like you have to, you're prepping for it, then you're listening to it live, helping him live while he's on air, and then you split it up into all three hours and you're editing each one individually.
00:39:29.000And Kylie does such a phenomenal job editing all the episodes, too.
00:39:34.000But it got to the point where, like, Charlie would say the most profound, amazing things, but I've heard it in the same episode four times, and it just kind of.
00:39:42.000Now, when I'll go back and listen to someone, I'm like, wait, this is actually really good.
00:39:46.000I have the same thing when I go back and listen to Charlie.
00:39:49.000I'm like, man, I. didn't even have eyes to see it because it was so good.
00:39:53.000I've sometimes stopped on the random Sunday episodes and I've just said, like, actually, everyone should go listen to this.
00:39:58.000Like, there was one, I think it was Chapter Leaders Summit or Student Action Summit 2022, and he talks about why you need to be courageous and, like, regardless of what the consequences were.
00:40:42.000He was debating someone about Mormonism, I believe.
00:40:45.000I have seen some tiny clips, but not the full one.
00:40:48.000Is it possible ever going to be posted as other things from that campus event were?
00:40:55.000I have been hesitating to ask this, but I know it must certainly be painful for those of you who knew Charlie personally and loved him most.
00:41:01.000Though I do feel it was surely providential that a defense of the gospel was Charlie's last answer before meeting the Lord.
00:41:10.000And I just feel so split on it because I will tell you the hardest footage for me to watch is that footage of Charlie approaching UVU and he's seeing the crowd and he starts.
00:41:25.000You just know that in minutes, mere minutes, everything changes.
00:43:00.000Yeah, I also think though, especially like reliving a lot of it last week, like looking at some of that footage, even though you know that what happens isn't in any of like, it's not in any of the pictures I have on my phone, any of the videos, but like you know that it's coming, that it's like you want, like I'll be watching a video of him walking out and I have to stop it because I'm like, I know that what happened is not in this video, but it feels like it's coming.
00:43:20.000And it would just, it would be tough for me.
00:43:22.000Yeah, like you, Leon, that transition sound we have on our episodes, like I can't imagine us just having that after a question like that.
00:44:04.000I've seen on social media, and I know some people personally who their dislike for Byron Donalds is outweighing their wanting to vote Republican.
00:44:17.000So I see a lot of people who are saying that they're going to vote Democrat.
00:44:20.000I just think a lot of people are not informed about what the opposing party views are.
00:44:28.000So, any advice on how to maybe inform people or what we can do?
00:44:34.000Yeah, no, I mean, listen, Byron Donalds is in a dead heat right now.
00:45:12.000Stance was he wanted AI data centers here, and then he kind of retracted his statement.
00:45:18.000So people just don't really trust him not flooding Florida with AI data centers.
00:45:23.000But we can't 100% stop them from coming here since AI is, you know, everyone uses it.
00:45:30.000But that's just the main thing that people don't want.
00:45:33.000Well, this goes back to the conversation we're having with Mark Halperin in hour one, Abby, and that is, you know, even in a Trump 15 district or Trump 15 state that You know, we have to pull it again because there's a lot of headwinds, namely affordability, Iran.0.90
00:45:51.000And what's crazy is that even in Florida, Florida, which has been one of the best governed states in the country, balanced budget, no property tax, all the things, no income tax, rather, all the things that so many conservatives want.
00:46:05.000I mean, they've dealt with illegal immigration.
00:46:14.000And even in a well run state like Florida, voters, Are not connecting the dots there because there does seem to be a visceral emotional response to just sending a message, right?
00:46:26.000And so, what's happening to Byron is it's probably less to do with Byron and more to do with a larger sentiment across the country.
00:46:33.000If you're encountering this in person, I'm thinking on the best way to push back on this.
00:46:38.000And one of those things is you have to puncture these emotional, these kind of emotionally inconsistent reactions where they think, I'm going to vote for a Democrat to send a message.
00:46:59.000They moved there probably because they came from a state like New York, like Illinois, like Pennsylvania, like states that had left wing government that messed those states up.
00:47:08.000I'll be frank, Florida has, it's not pleasant a large part of the year.
00:47:51.000And to throw that out and say, actually, let's bring in a Democrat who's going to be, whatever he says ideologically, is going to be absolutely aligned with the people who have ruined California, ruined New York, forced people to move to Florida.
00:48:06.000Because those states were so unlivable during COVID, during Floyd-a-Palooza, is irrational.
00:48:13.000It is irrational to do that, even because you're concerned about that.
00:48:18.000If he said one thing about data centers and then realized there was massive public backlash, and so he says, okay, actually, I see what the public is saying, so I'm going to moderate my view.
00:48:27.000That's a normal reaction to realizing that public sentiment is shifting on an issue that's not, in comparison to some of the other things we feel, of profound, deep moral importance.
00:49:10.000Vivek gave a strong first volley where he said, you know, they have to be adding something to the local community, right?
00:49:16.000Maybe that's bringing down energy costs.
00:49:18.000Maybe that's bringing down property taxes.
00:49:20.000Maybe that is a way, if you're going to have one of these in your community, that these are things that would be a benefit to locals if you're going to have them.
00:49:27.000Maybe locals need to have more power to have a say in whether or not they're allowed to move in.
00:49:33.000All of those things are fair, but I think Byron is probably very willing to adjust some of those.
00:49:39.000Policies based on what his voters are telling him.
00:53:01.000And his administration, they see a lot of opportunity in AI.
00:53:04.000So the Defense Department thinks we can use AI to.
00:53:07.000Win wars, make our military more effective.
00:53:10.000And finding fraud is one of the great potential uses for AI.
00:53:13.000Because how do so many of those Somali fraud daycares, fraudulent Medicare companies, fraudulent home adult daycare, a million different scams out there, they're able to get away with it in large part just because there's so much money going to so many places.0.87
00:53:31.000And there's just a limit to how many people we have auditing that stuff, checking that stuff, looking for patterns in that stuff.0.63
00:53:39.000And now there's a potential with AI to automate a huge amount of that to find discrepancies.
00:53:44.000And so one person can be vastly more efficient in finding that sort of thing.
00:53:51.000We can reduce fraud, it means we can reduce federal headcount.
00:53:54.000And that means that's not, oh, we lost jobs.
00:53:57.000That means we don't need to tax everyone to pay for these employees who will live in D.C., leeching off of you, being permanently recession proof.
00:54:05.000That's money you put back to the American people.
00:54:08.000I think it's a tremendous opportunity.
00:54:09.000And by the way, the more federal bureaucrats there are, the more they're going to.
00:54:13.000So it's not even just their salaries, it's the programs that they support and all that sort of thing.
00:54:18.000So the most widely cited official annual losses of fraud estimate across the U.S. federal government ranges between $233 billion to $521 billion.
00:55:29.000In the hands of the wrong people, they could be used as a surveillance mechanism.
00:55:32.000They could be used to invade your privacy.
00:55:35.000You know, as conservatives, we always have to be aware of the fact that the federal government could use this to try and crack down on conservatives.
00:55:41.000So, listen, in a limited scope, if you're using it to suss out fraud, I'm a big, big proponent of it.
00:55:49.000And I think it's a great advancement in this space.
00:57:59.000And you saw Charlie in his element as a political operator trying to get things done, Charlie as this man of the people who had so much appeal to college students.
00:58:10.000It just captured so many elements of what made Charlie a dynamic figure, and it was a lot of fun on its own merits.
00:58:17.000I don't really have a favorite, and I've thought about this question before, but there's ones that I haven't thought about for a long time.
00:58:22.000And I was just reminded of a trip that Charlie and I did.
00:58:26.000It was a multi week trip, actually, and it was right before COVID started.
00:58:31.000So this whole trip was launching his book, MAGA Doctrine, which ended up on the New York Times bestseller.
00:58:36.000So we just had it was like one interview after the next.
00:58:57.000Some other of the Trump family was there.
00:58:58.000And then, lo and behold, there was Tucker Carlson there.
00:59:02.000And so I remember talking with Tucker right before, and he was trying to warn about COVID.
00:59:06.000So that was a big, that was kind of this one weird moment right before the world shut down and traveling all across the country with him, going to restaurants, eating, hustling.
00:59:16.000And it was something I just haven't thought about for a while.
00:59:36.000We found a video of Charlie signing hats, and I don't know if everyone remembers in 2024, Charlie greatly over promised signed hats to thousands and thousands of people.
00:59:48.000And so it was coming down to the wire.
01:00:09.000I mean, it was like, I, we always, Charlie would get frustrated with me sometimes because I would repeatedly have to like tell him what to do in a sense.
01:00:18.000Like when he would be recording something, I'm like, no, you did that wrong.
01:01:14.000And I'm not saying anybody has to be pro Israel, but do they know that Hamas has child soldiers and they train them in training camps for terrorists starting from age 10 to 17?
01:01:26.000And that's why people under 18 die in these conflicts at such high rates?
01:01:32.000Yeah, so there's so much to this story.
01:02:07.000Anyways, the point is my whole take on this is if you're Robert Kraft and your goal is to get rid of anti Semitism, essentially, I would just say there was a tactical error, okay?
01:02:21.000Because he doesn't, there's a disconnect between what the older generation thinks about Israel and what younger people think about Israel, first of all.
01:02:28.000There's also a disconnect because he doesn't understand the way social media works.
01:02:32.000So as soon as I saw this happening, I knew for a fact.
01:02:35.000That Macklemore was going to come out on top on this, and that Robert Kraft and everybody, because immediately when we heard that Macklemore was kicked off the tour, there was all the usual suspects on social media going, Yay, we did it.
01:02:51.000Because you got to realize you're dealing with people that think Jews run the world, that there is this billionaire cabal and that they control everything.
01:03:03.000He did the thing that they are claiming that they do, that they deny that they do, that they control everything and can change world events or whatever.
01:03:14.000If you're pro Jewish people, all of those things, that's perfectly fine.1.00
01:03:19.000There's a right way to go about it in a wrong way.0.82
01:03:22.000Playing into a stereotype that rich billionaire Jews like Kraft can control events and get people removed from tours is probably not the right strategy.0.86
01:03:32.000And I think I speak for everybody.0.87
01:03:33.000I don't know, maybe Daisy, you might have been different.
01:03:48.000He was speaking into the ether, he was an opening act on a big North and South American tour.
01:03:54.000Nobody that I didn't even hear about it.
01:03:57.000The only reason I heard about it was because Robert Kraft stepped in and got in with all of his other stadium buddies and got it taken, it got him removed from the tour.
01:04:08.000What Ed Sheeran has now been, and I actually feel the worst for Ed Sheeran.
01:04:12.000It is a complete lose lose situation for Ed Sheeran.
01:04:15.000His statement, I don't know if we've pulled it yet, but his statement basically said the same thing.
01:04:22.000He was like, it was a notes app swipe through of just nothing.
01:04:27.000Because he's trying to make all sides happy.
01:04:30.000He's trying to make Israel happy, Palestine happy, and also the promoters and crew people on his tour.
01:04:36.000Because it's like, those are people's jobs.
01:04:46.000But what Ed Sheeran should have done, and again, I'm kind of getting away from your question here, but I do really feel bad for Ed Sheeran.
01:04:53.000And I have reason to believe that Macklemore feels bad for Ed Sheeran too.
01:04:56.000Because Ed's whole thing is like, listen, I love you.
01:05:03.000I have a tour to keep employed, all the people that work it, all the ticket sales, everything.
01:05:07.000I mean, it's basically a billion dollar industry on the back of one guy, and he's trying to honor everybody the right way, okay?
01:05:14.000What he should have done is instead of saying, I'm essentially sorry he's been kicked off, he should have said, listen, without taking a position on all this politics, what I will take a position on is that I can't let my artists be kicked off a tour.
01:08:14.000Macklemore's has grown by what, 300,000, 400,000 now?
01:08:17.000I am not sure, but I will say Ed Sheeran did.
01:08:19.000I think he made it sound casual, but I think there was a point in there in his statement when he said, when Macklemore asked to join me on tour.
01:10:27.000And now, like, we're beefing with the European Union.
01:10:30.000So Canada is now talking about being an associate member of the European Union.
01:10:35.000And it's, I feel for Canadian conservatives because it's very tough.
01:10:39.000Because if your country's defining identities are we're more liberal than America and we're anti Donald Trump, it's difficult to break away from that.
01:10:50.000And you might have to ride that out, I suppose.