The Charlie Kirk Show - April 13, 2023


The Biden Admin's Latest Attack on Catholics with Rep. Mary Miller and Floyd Brown


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show with Mary Miller and Floyd Brown, we talk about are we going to win in 2024? What s going to be necessary? And why is Joe Biden preventing Catholic priests from doing religious services at Walter Reed Hospital?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Mary Miller and Floyd Brown.
00:00:03.000 We talked about are we going to win in 2024?
00:00:04.000 What's going to be necessary?
00:00:05.000 And why is Biden preventing Catholic priests from doing religious services at Walter Reed and somebody running for president that I wish well?
00:00:15.000 You'll have to listen to find out who.
00:00:16.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:00:27.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:30.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:31.000 Here, we go.
00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:34.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:36.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:40.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:43.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:44.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:45.000 His spirit is love of this country.
00:00:47.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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00:01:16.000 The overwhelming majority, freedom at charliekirk.com, say we are not ready to win a war.
00:01:25.000 That's really something I agree.
00:01:31.000 And as we're about to have Congresswoman Mary Miller, that's actually not the most disturbing thing I could have seen from you because at least the vast majority of us are being honest.
00:01:41.000 That's good.
00:01:42.000 So we're not living in a delusion.
00:01:44.000 So there's something there that actually is honest and comforting.
00:01:49.000 That the truth is actually comforting.
00:01:50.000 Because I got emails, Charlie, we're stronger than ever.
00:01:52.000 We could do this.
00:01:53.000 We got a couple of those emails, but the vast majority said, no way.
00:01:57.000 We are not ready.
00:01:59.000 Thousands and thousands of emails of stories of people saying that they're in the military and just not ready.
00:02:06.000 Okay, joining us now is Congresswoman Mary Miller from the great state of Illinois.
00:02:11.000 Congresswoman, welcome to the program.
00:02:12.000 Tell us about this story here, Walter Reed, Catholic priests.
00:02:17.000 There's a cease and desist order.
00:02:18.000 Tell us about it.
00:02:20.000 Well, this is a continuing story of how Joe Biden attacks regular Americans and his anti-Christian bias.
00:02:28.000 Last week, while we were celebrating Easter, he decided to kick the priests out of Walter Reed.
00:02:35.000 Now, these are priests who, for decades, have been ministering to our service members there.
00:02:41.000 And why he chose Easter weekend to do this, and why he actually did this, we have no idea.
00:02:49.000 I do know we are demanding answers.
00:02:52.000 I wrote a letter to Biden, Millie, and Lloyd Austin, joined with 25 other members, demanding to know why they chose that weekend and why they kicked them out, and why they chose the secular for-profit organization to come in.
00:03:11.000 And, well, we know they can't do what the priests do.
00:03:14.000 The priests are ministering to the spiritual needs of the Christian service members there.
00:03:21.000 So, just to understand this correctly, Catholic priests during Holy Week were not allowed to offer services to people at Walter Reed Hospital.
00:03:33.000 Am I understanding that correctly?
00:03:35.000 Not just last week.
00:03:37.000 They were kicked out last week.
00:03:39.000 Biden chose Easter weekend to do it, but he has barred them from going in now and given a kind of some kind of contract to a secular for-profit organization, probably some leftist, secular, anti-God atheists, to go in and minister to the Christian service members.
00:04:06.000 So let me ask a question that might be a little, you know, just on the right forefront.
00:04:14.000 Let's say someone's dying right now, Walter Reed, and they're Catholic and they want the sacrament of last rights.
00:04:19.000 Are you trying to tell me the Catholic priests are not allowed in there to administer last rites right now?
00:04:25.000 That's correct.
00:04:27.000 Okay, I mean, that's so they don't even allow.
00:04:29.000 So right now, the Biden regime is preventing even visitors that might be Catholic priests.
00:04:36.000 So even if like a visitor, so if a Catholic right now wanted to do confession, take the Eucharist, have last rights, all of which are sacraments in the Catholic Church, they have to go through some sort of contracted secular organization.
00:04:54.000 I've never heard of such a thing like this.
00:04:57.000 Well, every day we wake up and wonder what our destroyer-in-chief is going to destroy next, but he is absolutely ticking at our foundations, the things that made our country great and strong, which is our faith and our families.
00:05:15.000 And we have to fight back.
00:05:17.000 Charlie, I appreciate you so much.
00:05:18.000 I listen to your podcast.
00:05:20.000 My children listen.
00:05:21.000 I pass your name whenever I'm traveling the district, trying to get people to hear the truth on your podcast.
00:05:29.000 Thank you.
00:05:30.000 But things like this, the American people need to know how radical Joe Biden and his cabinet is, that they're weaponized the federal government and they're going after Americans are going after our faith and our families.
00:05:49.000 Yeah, without a doubt.
00:05:50.000 So then what's the next step?
00:05:51.000 I mean, you've demanded answers from the Pentagon.
00:05:53.000 Where do things stand?
00:05:55.000 Well, we sent a letter, so we're going to have to wait till we get, you know, the answers.
00:06:00.000 I know Senator Rubio is demanding answers for the Senate also.
00:06:08.000 I mean, this is a pattern by the Biden administration in going after our faith, going after regular Americans, and now showing that they're going after Christian service members by denying them a basic First Amendment right is to exercise their freedom of religion, be ministered to by these priests.
00:06:32.000 I mean, the priests and pastors have been with our service members through the darkest days and battles forever.
00:06:41.000 And this is just insane.
00:06:44.000 It is, but it's also part of a pattern.
00:06:46.000 I mean, the Biden regime has infiltrated Latin Mass and is surveilling Catholics that are going to Mass, infiltrating Catholic churches.
00:06:55.000 They're preventing Catholic priests from potentially administering sacramental services to people that might be dying.
00:07:03.000 And Walter Reed, and for people that are not Catholic, I'm not Catholic, but just understand that in the Catholic church, there's a series of sacraments, including the administration of last rites, which is basically a religious service to somebody who is about to enter the next life.
00:07:20.000 So another question, I mean, they're not allowed for grieving services.
00:07:20.000 It's very important.
00:07:25.000 I mean, so now there has to be a secular organization for religious.
00:07:31.000 I mean, this thing wouldn't stand up in court in a minute.
00:07:33.000 What do you think the Biden regime's intent is here?
00:07:38.000 Okay, my opinion is, first of all, we remember when Barack Obama said he wanted to fundamentally transform America.
00:07:46.000 And Joe Biden is Barack Obama's third term.
00:07:50.000 To fundamentally transform us, they have to make us weak.
00:07:54.000 And I believe that they are trying to make us weak spiritually, intellectually, socially.
00:08:02.000 They're attacking, they're creating division among Americans.
00:08:07.000 destroying the policies are attacking families.
00:08:11.000 Families make people strong and in our relationships.
00:08:15.000 And they also want to make us weak. 0.87
00:08:18.000 They're trying to get us to eat bugs rather than beef.
00:08:22.000 So it's just an attack.
00:08:24.000 They're trying to transform us into a Marxist country.
00:08:30.000 And I'm afraid that they are succeeding currently.
00:08:35.000 Well, Congresswoman Miller, please stay on this.
00:08:37.000 It's very scary what's happening.
00:08:39.000 And it's hard to believe that right now, people at Walter Reed Medical, which is an Army medical center, just to remind people, okay?
00:08:48.000 It was a flagship medical center.
00:08:50.000 It's really incredible what they do there.
00:08:54.000 There's about 5,500 rooms, and they are able to administer medical care to people that have been wounded in combat and people that are fighting, you know, with any sort of issues that might come associated with their service in our military. 0.75
00:09:12.000 And just like all things, they're trying to make it increasingly secular and godless.
00:09:17.000 Congresswoman Miller, thank you so much.
00:09:19.000 You're welcome.
00:09:23.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:09:24.000 I want to tell you about a new movie that's coming out April 14th, Nefarious, from the same people who made God's Not Dead unplanned.
00:09:30.000 It's a supernatural thriller, and it's excellent.
00:09:33.000 It's like a modern day version of C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters.
00:09:37.000 Nefarious is a story of good and evil.
00:09:39.000 It's about a convicted killer who hours before his execution claimed to be a demon.
00:09:44.000 An atheist psychiatrist is called in to meet with the man and decide if he's insane or just pretending or something much worse.
00:09:50.000 The film is marketed as a horror film, but do not let that stop you.
00:09:54.000 It is rated R, which is strange since there's no sex or violence.
00:09:57.000 I guess Hollywood doesn't want teenagers to see this film, but that's exactly who should see it.
00:10:01.000 Nefarious opens in theaters nationwide starting April 14th.
00:10:06.000 So go buy your tickets right now and make sure you bring a friend.
00:10:09.000 The questions of good or evil are all over the American culture right now.
00:10:13.000 Teenagers especially need to see it.
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00:10:19.000 So check it out right now.
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00:10:22.000 Whoisnefarious.com.
00:10:27.000 There's another person running for president.
00:10:29.000 And no, I didn't mean Asa Hutchinson.
00:10:31.000 We're not going to talk about him.
00:10:32.000 That guy's a waste of time.
00:10:33.000 Yeah, I don't know if you heard the breaking news in the last week and a half.
00:10:36.000 Asa Hutchinson is running for the presidency.
00:10:39.000 If only board members of Walmart voted for president, he still wouldn't win.
00:10:44.000 I'm not really sure what Asa Hutchinson's constituency is.
00:10:47.000 If lobbyists in Fayetteville, Arkansas, maybe, maybe Asa Hutchinson could win the presidency.
00:10:53.000 But there is a serious contender that announced, someone I've always been on very good terms with, I certainly disagree with.
00:10:58.000 He's more moderate than I would like, but I think he's a sweet person.
00:11:02.000 And I think he has a great story.
00:11:05.000 My greatest piece of criticism towards Senator Tim Scott is his criminal justice stuff.
00:11:10.000 I just can't stand it.
00:11:11.000 It feels like he's just trying to build bridges to Corey Booker, with Corey Booker for just the sake of doing it.
00:11:18.000 However, he's pretty good on other issues, to be honest.
00:11:20.000 Not great on Ukraine, obviously.
00:11:22.000 Some people call him a rhino.
00:11:23.000 Look, I actually think his story is actually really interesting and inspiring.
00:11:28.000 He legitimately grew up in poverty.
00:11:30.000 He believes in the American dream.
00:11:33.000 And he's lived a lot of the ideas that we care about.
00:11:37.000 He's a gentleman.
00:11:38.000 He's very polite.
00:11:39.000 He's always been very sweet to me.
00:11:40.000 I mean that honestly. 0.95
00:11:41.000 So, unlike some of the other scumbags that are thinking to run for the presidency, I have nothing but good things to say about him. 0.96
00:11:47.000 And I wish him well. 0.67
00:11:48.000 Obviously, I'm not going to support him in the primary.
00:11:50.000 He's welcome on this show at any time.
00:11:52.000 But I've always found him to be polite and honest and in it for the right reasons.
00:11:56.000 And he's had every reason.
00:11:57.000 And boys, he attacked from every direction.
00:12:00.000 He is tarred and he's feathered and he is attacked and he's ridiculed and he's slandered.
00:12:05.000 He's had every reason to try to become kind of a moderate or even a Democrat.
00:12:11.000 But he really stands boldly and firm.
00:12:13.000 Stands for school choice, stands for the excellence and the exceptionalism of America.
00:12:17.000 And I think we're getting a tape here.
00:12:18.000 I think he actually might have somewhat of a path.
00:12:22.000 I mean, everything's just in the shadow of Trump, right?
00:12:24.000 So, I mean, that's kind of where it's hard to say.
00:12:29.000 Outside of Trump, he would have a very, very good shot.
00:12:31.000 I mean, I think Trump's going to win the nomination rather convincingly.
00:12:34.000 But here's a little taste of Tim Scott's announcement video.
00:12:36.000 Again, I don't love everything he talks about.
00:12:38.000 At times, I feel as if he's pandering to the left.
00:12:42.000 Do we have it loaded?
00:12:43.000 Ryan?
00:12:44.000 Okay.
00:12:45.000 Here is Cut 69.
00:12:48.000 Once again, our divisions run deep, and the threat to our future is real.
00:12:54.000 Joe Biden and the radical left have chosen a culture of grievance over greatness.
00:13:00.000 They're promoting victimhood instead of personal responsibility.
00:13:04.000 And they're indoctrinating our children to believe we live in an evil country.
00:13:09.000 And all too often, when they get called out for their failures, they weaponize race to divide us, to hold on to their power.
00:13:18.000 When I fought back against their liberal agenda, they called me a prop, a token, because I disrupt their narrative.
00:13:25.000 I threaten their control.
00:13:27.000 They know the truth of my life disproves their lies.
00:13:31.000 It's a very powerful thing, I got to tell you.
00:13:34.000 And as someone who, you know, understand, he has got a lot of corporate allies and stuff.
00:13:41.000 You could do nothing but negativity.
00:13:43.000 I'm actually going to lean into the positive here because I think it's necessary and it's earned.
00:13:47.000 I wish he would have been more strong in 2020 during Floyd de Palooza.
00:13:50.000 But what he's saying, again, I have pinpointed the five fake religions that are dominating American society right now, one of which is this cult of anti-racism.
00:13:58.000 If Tim Scott is going to be outspoken against the lies of BLM, the lies of anti-racism, the lies of Robin DiAngelo, then God speed Tim Scott.
00:14:07.000 We need more candidates that are going to get in the arena and push back against this venom.
00:14:12.000 And here's what's going to end up happening: there's going to be a competition now for clicks and for likes and for views and for all that, which is actually a good thing.
00:14:19.000 So the mainstream media's incentive structure is actually going to work positively.
00:14:23.000 For example, Tim Scott's not going to be polling very well, right?
00:14:26.000 Donald Trump's going to be at 50 or 60%.
00:14:28.000 So Tim Scott is going to say, wow, we got to try to get some notoriety and some publicity.
00:14:32.000 So Tim Scott will then go on Anderson Cooper.
00:14:35.000 And Tim Scott will then go on and they're going to ask him about race.
00:14:38.000 Like white upper middle class liberals that live on the Upper East Side in New York City are going to ask Tim Scott about race.
00:14:43.000 Be like, yeah, actually, I grew up, if I remember his story correctly, to a single mother in North Charleston in a crime-infested area, and I've lived the American dream.
00:14:51.000 So don't tell me America's racist is a decent country.
00:14:54.000 That's a good thing to hear.
00:14:55.000 That's a good thing for the public narrative.
00:14:57.000 Again, I don't think he's going to be the nominee.
00:14:58.000 He might be auditioning for vice president.
00:15:00.000 Same thing I said about the VEC.
00:15:02.000 I'll say about Tim Scott.
00:15:04.000 This is a good thing to try to move the Overton window and show that we're a very substantial force as a party.
00:15:10.000 That, yes, Donald Trump's going to be the nominee.
00:15:12.000 I support him enthusiastically, but we got some stone-cold killers in our party.
00:15:16.000 Some people with some great stories, our ideas, our principles.
00:15:19.000 What we stand for transcends just a single person.
00:15:22.000 I think that's a great threat to the left.
00:15:24.000 And so I support him running completely and totally.
00:15:28.000 That's not to say I support his candidacy.
00:15:29.000 I support him getting into the race because of what he has to say.
00:15:33.000 And in a world where we are teaching kids, you must be a Democrat if you're black, having Tim Scott as a senator is a good thing. 0.65
00:15:43.000 And when I say stone-cold killers, I mean a metaphor, of course. 0.68
00:15:45.000 I mean people that have great political instincts that can win.
00:15:48.000 I'm thinking, see, media matters.
00:15:50.000 We have talented people, a lot of talent.
00:15:53.000 So, Tim Scott, we disagree on some things.
00:15:55.000 You've always been very good to me.
00:15:56.000 You're welcome on the show.
00:15:57.000 Best of luck.
00:15:58.000 And I think you could be very helpful in fighting against these Marxists.
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00:17:08.000 Floyd Brown, welcome to the program.
00:17:10.000 It's great to be with you.
00:17:11.000 Counter Punch, tell us about your book.
00:17:13.000 Well, the truth is, is that, you know, I run the Western Journal, and every day we're producing news.
00:17:18.000 And what I tried to do was step back from that and look at the larger narratives that we've been having to deal with.
00:17:24.000 And we've had, you know, a series of false narratives that have been shoved down the throats of the American people the last five years.
00:17:31.000 I deal with all of those different narratives because they're all intended to make people feel powerless.
00:17:38.000 And what I wanted to do was re-empower people, re-engage people so they could understand they can have real impact where they're at if they occupy the territory where they live.
00:17:51.000 And so it's really a call to action to local action to get involved in school board races, town council races, sheriff races, you know, all of these key positions.
00:18:03.000 There's over 3,100 counties in America.
00:18:06.000 We should have over 3,000 of those in our camp.
00:18:10.000 A lot of times we lose races, Charlie, because we just don't even show up.
00:18:14.000 I totally.
00:18:15.000 So 3,100 counties, that really, I mean, you take out the 10 biggest counties, right?
00:18:20.000 Well, Maricopa is really important, but Cook County, LA, Boston, Philadelphia.
00:18:25.000 Really, the majority of where America will be decided is on the county level.
00:18:30.000 Why is it that the National Republican organizations are not focused on counties?
00:18:34.000 Well, the first thing you have to learn about the Republican Party is that really Washington is governed by a uniparty.
00:18:42.000 Okay.
00:18:42.000 The Republican Party and the Democrat Party, at least in D.C., in their iterations, are just different sides of the same coin.
00:18:50.000 And until you understand that, you really don't understand that a lot of the theater you see out of Washington, D.C. is just, it's fake.
00:18:58.000 It's fake theater.
00:19:00.000 And I like to call it kabuki theater because they talk against each other. 0.92
00:19:06.000 And, you know, one side's...
00:19:07.000 It's performative.
00:19:08.000 It's performance.
00:19:10.000 But then they all come together with these huge bills.
00:19:13.000 And whenever they say bipartisan, that's when you need to watch carefully because you're about to get screwed over.
00:19:20.000 And there's so many different examples of this, but we have a real recent one.
00:19:26.000 And that is when Tucker Carlson showed one night of video footage from January 6th.
00:19:32.000 The truth is the narrative around January 6th is a false narrative, the one that's been spun by Washington, D.C., that somehow Donald Trump was trying to have a coup or an insurrection.
00:19:44.000 Overthrow the government.
00:19:45.000 Yes, it's just such a false narrative.
00:19:47.000 So we saw a little glimpse of the truth on Tucker in one night.
00:19:51.000 What happens the very next morning?
00:19:53.000 Chuck Schumer goes to the well of the Senate, denounces Tucker Carlson and Fox News.
00:19:59.000 The next speaker is Mitch McConnell, who does essentially the same.
00:20:03.000 But even after that, six other Republican senators come up and once again repeat this false narrative.
00:20:11.000 And so we've got to break the back of these false narratives.
00:20:14.000 That's one of the reasons why I appreciate your show, because you deal with a lot of those false narratives.
00:20:20.000 I tried to deal with them in the book, but the false narratives are intended to make people feel powerless.
00:20:28.000 And our founders gave us a wonderful Bill of Rights.
00:20:33.000 And we need to claim the power that we have through that Bill of Rights in order to engage.
00:20:40.000 And you can do it right in your local community.
00:20:43.000 The book is excellent.
00:20:44.000 I'm just reading through it, and it certainly hits to some issues we care about on this program.
00:20:48.000 Alarming underreporting of vaccine side effects is in the book.
00:20:52.000 The root of controversy over Ivermectin.
00:20:55.000 You talk about a lot of the stuff you're not supposed to talk about.
00:20:56.000 Yeah, right?
00:20:57.000 I talk about all the things that I get canceled for talking about.
00:21:01.000 And one of the big ones is the tyranny of big tech, which was my last book was called Big Tech Tyrants.
00:21:09.000 But they help perpetuate these false narratives.
00:21:13.000 And if America is going to come back together, it's going to require all of us getting involved.
00:21:20.000 Every single person listening has to be involved.
00:21:24.000 We all have to pull at the oar in order to save our country.
00:21:27.000 In the realistic ideal, what does that look like for right now, the plumber in Jacksonville, Florida?
00:21:33.000 He listens to our show.
00:21:35.000 Hey, okay, I'm listening.
00:21:36.000 What do I do?
00:21:37.000 What is the realistic ideal?
00:21:39.000 Involvement of engagement.
00:21:40.000 Yeah, well, the first thing I would say is that he needs to get to know his neighbors again.
00:21:48.000 Up here in the North Valley in Phoenix, there's a group called the North Valley Constitutional Conservatives is what they're called.
00:21:59.000 And it was started by a guy named Basil Firminos.
00:22:02.000 He was upset about mask mandates during COVID.
00:22:05.000 He texted 50 of his friends with his phone to meet for coffee to talk about how they could fight against mask mandates.
00:22:13.000 250 people showed up.
00:22:15.000 Since then, they've stayed active.
00:22:17.000 They meet every other Monday night at AMPT Coffee Shop, and they are talking about how they can be involved.
00:22:24.000 And then they're getting involved.
00:22:25.000 They've been involved in school board races, legislative races.
00:22:28.000 They're involved as precinct committeemen.
00:22:30.000 They're involved as LD leaders.
00:22:33.000 They are getting involved in the process.
00:22:36.000 And it all started with one guy getting frustrated and texting 50 of his friends.
00:22:41.000 So that's what the plumber should do.
00:22:42.000 He should either find a group like this where he's living or he needs to start one.
00:22:48.000 But organic and decentralized.
00:22:50.000 Totally organic and totally decentralized.
00:22:53.000 So, I mean, there's a role to try to run for LD chair.
00:22:56.000 There's a role to be a precinct committee person.
00:22:59.000 But the hope really is kind of in the spontaneity, right?
00:23:02.000 500 people there, 200 people there, 300 people there, a church group, a coffee group.
00:23:07.000 Yeah, and I really focus a lot on church groups.
00:23:10.000 You know, I'm a Christian, and I'm just so tired of the heresy inside the Christian church that says Christians aren't supposed to be involved in politics.
00:23:19.000 No, when I become a Christian, Jesus governs every part of my life.
00:23:24.000 That means he governs my job.
00:23:26.000 He governs my family, but he also governs my government.
00:23:29.000 Yes, that's right.
00:23:30.000 And whether or not you vote and how your kids are educated and calling right from wrong.
00:23:35.000 So you call it counter punch.
00:23:37.000 So it's implied that they've punched us.
00:23:39.000 And that is exactly right, obviously.
00:23:42.000 And so how do we effectively counterpunch?
00:23:44.000 And the subtitle here is an unlikely alliance of Americans.
00:23:47.000 Tell us about the unlikely alliance.
00:23:50.000 So I see coming together in this next election an amazing collection of different diverse groups.
00:23:59.000 First of all, I believe black men are at a tipping point.
00:24:04.000 Yeah, I agree. 1.00
00:24:05.000 Black women, I'm not so sure. 1.00
00:24:06.000 Black men, yes. 0.99
00:24:07.000 Black men are at a tipping point. 0.64
00:24:09.000 And I think that Donald Trump should go into the inner city and he should campaign.
00:24:15.000 He should go to where they are and tell them, you know what?
00:24:20.000 I know you know this justice system is rigged.
00:24:23.000 I know it's rigged too.
00:24:24.000 Look what they're doing to me.
00:24:26.000 He now has something that he can talk with them about that could be a game changer.
00:24:33.000 But also the trans thing is not popular in the black community at all.
00:24:36.000 The trans thing is a upper, middle, upper-middle class, white liberal phenomenon.
00:24:43.000 In the black community, the trans thing is not just deeply unpopular, it's ridiculed. 0.99
00:24:48.000 Well, the trans thing is very demonic. 1.00
00:24:50.000 Yes. 1.00
00:24:51.000 I mean, it is right from the pit of hell.
00:24:54.000 And, you know, it's child abuse.
00:24:57.000 You know, I don't know how any demographic group could support what's going on.
00:25:02.000 But you're right.
00:25:03.000 It's not popular in the black community, but also the Hispanic community.
00:25:08.000 Yes, that's right.
00:25:08.000 It's not popular there.
00:25:09.000 It's not popular with Asians.
00:25:11.000 Asians have close, tight-knit families.
00:25:15.000 Hispanics have the same. 1.00
00:25:17.000 And this agenda of transgenderism is at its core, you know, basically rebellion from God, but it also is intended to destroy the family because it's destroying the very identity of men and women. 1.00
00:25:33.000 And so let's talk more about the unlikely alliance. 0.99
00:25:36.000 So you're talking about an alliance of black men, of Asians.
00:25:39.000 And I believe that that is how we regain the country. 1.00
00:25:45.000 We have to go to these areas. 1.00
00:25:48.000 There's got to be, you know, we've got to go to black churches.
00:25:51.000 We've got to go to Hispanic churches. 1.00
00:25:53.000 We've got to go into these communities and occupy and be the solution for them. 0.98
00:26:00.000 I think they're more open to our ideas than they've ever been.
00:26:04.000 And so what other groups should we be thinking about?
00:26:07.000 Not just racial groups.
00:26:08.000 Are there religious groups?
00:26:10.000 Are there, I mean, for example, like, you know, I think a missed opportunity in the 2022 midterms, you know, when Blake Masters was running for Senate, was that kind of early 30s millennial trying to buy a home?
00:26:22.000 I didn't see a lot of messaging.
00:26:24.000 There wasn't any messaging.
00:26:25.000 And actually, I saw some really great polling recently about millennials.
00:26:29.000 Millennials are open to our ideas, but we're not out there advocating.
00:26:34.000 And so we have to get aggressive about going to different groups.
00:26:39.000 Republicans are too insular.
00:26:42.000 They talk to themselves.
00:26:44.000 We've got to get out to other people.
00:26:46.000 I mean, I know Turning Point does.
00:26:48.000 And that's why I like the organization.
00:26:51.000 That's why I like Turning Point so much.
00:26:52.000 I'm going to be as fourth right on that because I don't take it personally because I know what we do.
00:26:56.000 And when we go to a college campus, it's the opposite of speaking to. 0.93
00:27:01.000 But I mean, look at this whole issue of transgenderism where they're literally stealing from women female sports. 0.99
00:27:10.000 It's just beyond the pale. 0.96
00:27:12.000 There's an interesting story with that, actually.
00:27:13.000 I want to read this headline.
00:27:15.000 It's a little side note.
00:27:16.000 But the San Francisco State Athletic Director, I don't know if you saw this, came out and said that gender bias is at the root of the protest against trans-identified males in women's sports.
00:27:27.000 Not the fact that men can compete, but she said it's gender bias.
00:27:31.000 It's just amazing what they'll end up trying to blame.
00:27:34.000 So the book is available now for purchases.
00:27:36.000 Yes, right?
00:27:37.000 It is, and it's actually doing really well.
00:27:38.000 And I'm pleased.
00:27:40.000 It will help people.
00:27:42.000 get a plan to get involved and it will help them know what they can do to really make change.
00:27:50.000 And I've poured 40, you know, one of the things is I've been involved in four wave elections.
00:27:55.000 I was involved as a young man in my 20s in the Reagan Revolution.
00:27:59.000 I was involved in 94 with Newt Gingrich in the contract with America.
00:28:03.000 I was running Citizens United at the time.
00:28:06.000 I spoke at hundreds of Tea Party rallies, and then I was involved in the MAGA movement.
00:28:11.000 Those were four wave elections.
00:28:14.000 And why weren't those successful at systemically changing America?
00:28:18.000 And I believe part of it is the spiritual element.
00:28:22.000 We have to have churches that are also interceding in the spiritual warfare.
00:28:27.000 So it's got to be a twin operation.
00:28:29.000 We can't just organize on the ground.
00:28:31.000 We have to organize on the ground.
00:28:33.000 But we also need to call the intercessors and the prayer warriors and the other people to be fighting in the spiritual context against these principalities that are over these different communities.
00:28:44.000 Somebody says, Charlie, the country is done.
00:28:45.000 It's over.
00:28:46.000 No use in fighting your response.
00:28:48.000 Oh, we have to fight.
00:28:49.000 I mean, first of all, as a Christian, I'm called to fight and occupy until whatever day.
00:28:54.000 So I mean, I have an internal guidance system that makes me want to fight.
00:29:00.000 But no, this country is very, very winnable because our founders gave us all the tools we need to win this fight.
00:29:10.000 What tools, especially?
00:29:11.000 Because people feel demoralized.
00:29:13.000 They feel as if they've captured all the institutions.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, well, and they have.
00:29:18.000 But, you know, I looked back extensively on the civil rights movement.
00:29:24.000 You know, when Martin Luther King went into Birmingham and launched the bus boycott, you know, people didn't think he was going to be successful, but he did it peacefully.
00:29:34.000 So, I mean, I believe that local officials have a right to resist unconstitutional rules from up above.
00:29:43.000 So that's one of the reasons why I call for people to run for local office, because a local sheriff can protect us against bad gun legislation from above.
00:29:53.000 And local officials have a right to really fight back.
00:29:58.000 And we haven't been.
00:29:59.000 And that's actually a Christian doctrine.
00:30:01.000 It's called the doctrine of interposition, which means that we can stand as a lower level official or a lesser magistrate against people that are above us and fight back.
00:30:12.000 And it's a duty we have.
00:30:14.000 So, yes.
00:30:16.000 So I want to talk more about the book, Counterpunch here.
00:30:20.000 You really talk about how to do this.
00:30:23.000 So the ever-growing list of cabinet positions, the administrative state, one of the great threats to our liberty.
00:30:28.000 How do we go about restraining that?
00:30:30.000 Well, I call for a massive restructuring of government.
00:30:34.000 Basically, when we win this big wave election, I think it's coming.
00:30:42.000 I'm more cynical than you are.
00:30:43.000 Well, I think it's coming.
00:30:45.000 I think the people are with us.
00:30:46.000 I've not seen evidence of the machinery yet.
00:30:48.000 Yeah, well.
00:30:49.000 Because the RNC is a complete waste of rations.
00:30:51.000 But anyway, that's a lot of the RNC will make us lose.
00:30:56.000 But I have a strong belief in God, and I believe God isn't done using America yet.
00:31:00.000 And so God is going to intervene.
00:31:03.000 I hope so.
00:31:03.000 And he intervened in 2016.
00:31:06.000 I only think the reason Donald Trump won that election was because of God's intervention.
00:31:10.000 And I think we're going to see another intervention.
00:31:13.000 And so, yes, I think we're going to have a wave election.
00:31:17.000 But when we have a wave election, what we have to do is restructure government.
00:31:22.000 We've got to close the Department of Education, send all education back to the states.
00:31:27.000 We've got to close the Department of Agriculture and send all agriculture back to the states.
00:31:31.000 We've got to close, you know, why should federal land be owned all over the country?
00:31:36.000 All that should go back to the states.
00:31:38.000 Even the parks should go back to the states.
00:31:40.000 Arizona can keep the Grand Canyon.
00:31:42.000 Why do we need Washington, D.C. telling us how to keep the Grand Canyon?
00:31:46.000 We do a great job of keeping the Grand Canyon right here.
00:31:50.000 It's all very logical, and it will require an executive with the will to do it.
00:31:56.000 But it's also in the Constitution.
00:31:58.000 We have the 10th Amendment where the founders gave us this power.
00:32:04.000 And so what we have to do is find people that will use that power.
00:32:11.000 It seems overwhelming, but it can be done.
00:32:14.000 No, it seems overwhelming.
00:32:16.000 But once you hit a tipping point, Charlie, things can change dramatically.
00:32:21.000 I mean, look at all the change that the Biden administration has forced down the throats of Americans.
00:32:29.000 And yet they were just, you know, they didn't even barely barely won that race.
00:32:34.000 I want to believe you, but if that was the case, the midterms, Kerry Lake would be governor, right?
00:32:40.000 Well, but we still had problems with the elections.
00:32:42.000 I mean, I believe Kerry Lake was elected governor.
00:32:46.000 So, I mean, it hasn't been fixed.
00:32:49.000 It's gotten worse.
00:32:50.000 And it's gotten worse.
00:32:52.000 You are correct.
00:32:54.000 But we are making progress in that direction.
00:32:57.000 We are seeing more about the Maricopa fraud than we've ever seen.
00:33:01.000 I know.
00:33:01.000 And I believe there will be changes.
00:33:03.000 I hope so.
00:33:04.000 The courts don't seem very willing to step up, though.
00:33:07.000 Well, I don't think the courts will be the solution.
00:33:09.000 I think it'll be the legislature.
00:33:10.000 How? 1.00
00:33:11.000 Katie Hobbs is governor. 1.00
00:33:12.000 She'll veto everything. 1.00
00:33:13.000 Well, but they have particular power based in the Constitution to oversee federal elections. 1.00
00:33:21.000 The legislature does.
00:33:22.000 And the legislature can do that on their own without.
00:33:26.000 If we can get the Jeff Flake Republicans in the legislature to do that, that would be great because it's split 50-50, half for good, half.
00:33:33.000 No, no, I mean, that's been a big, big problem.
00:33:36.000 Yeah, no, no.
00:33:37.000 I mean, until people understand that a major chunk of the Republican Party are part of the uniparty.
00:33:47.000 I mean, back when I was young, I had a mentor by the name of Stan Evans.
00:33:51.000 And I remember he said this to me in 1987 when I was still working in Washington, D.C.
00:33:56.000 He said, you know, Floyd, we came here.
00:33:58.000 We knew Washington was a cesspool.
00:34:00.000 Now that we've been here a couple of years, it's kind of like a hot tub.
00:34:04.000 And that's what happens to people.
00:34:06.000 We send great people to Washington, D.C.
00:34:09.000 And, you know, the first year they might make a little tiny compromise.
00:34:13.000 The next year, a little bit bigger one.
00:34:15.000 And then seven or eight or 10 years later, they wake up and they have literally become what they went to Washington to stop.
00:34:23.000 Counterpunch by Floyd Brown.
00:34:25.000 Any closing thoughts here?
00:34:26.000 30 seconds remaining?
00:34:27.000 I'm very optimistic because I think we're at a tipping point.
00:34:30.000 We are going to see this new coalition of Hispanics, blacks, and millennials that are going to come together and help us change this country.
00:34:39.000 And I appreciate all the work you do to make that happen.
00:34:42.000 We've got to make it happen, everybody.
00:34:43.000 Check out the book, Counterpunch by Floyd Brown.
00:34:46.000 I was just slipping through it.
00:34:47.000 It's very well researched.
00:34:49.000 And boy, lots and lots of footnotes here.
00:34:52.000 Check it out.
00:34:53.000 Counterpunch by Floyd Brown.
00:34:54.000 God bless you.
00:34:55.000 Thanks so much.
00:34:56.000 Thank you.
00:34:56.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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