The Charlie Kirk Show - The Case For a Special Counsel Investigation Into Election Irregularities

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

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00:00:02.000 A group of congressmen are now calling for a special counsel into voter fraud irregularities and Joe Biden.

00:00:07.000 Congressman Lance Gooden is leading that charge from Texas.

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00:02:25.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:25.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:28.000 Super thrilled to be joined today by a very strong congressman, someone who really gets it, Congressman Lance Gooden.

00:02:37.000 Congressman, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:40.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:02:41.000 Glad to be here.

00:02:42.000 So you made a big announcement on Friday that has really been gaining some traction.

00:02:46.000 Tell us about it.

00:02:48.000 Well, on Friday, I announced a letter that I had sent to President Trump, in fact, asking him to appoint a special counsel to investigate election irregularities across the nation.

00:03:03.000 You know, we've heard so much about all the horrible things that took place, and all sides are saying different things.

00:03:11.000 Those on the left say this election was fair and that we're sore losers.

00:03:16.000 Obviously, our side thinks that we won this race and that it was robbed in many ways.

00:03:22.000 And so this special investigation that I called for, the special counsel, would be independent of A.G. Barr and would investigate and come up with their own report.

00:03:34.000 And so no matter what side of the argument you fall on, you should be for the people across our great nation having confidence in the election, even if you're not on the winning side.

00:03:45.000 We don't have that.

00:03:46.000 And so that's what this seeks to do.

00:03:48.000 We believe that an independent investigation by an independent body would lead to conclusions that would put all these competing arguments to rest.

00:03:58.000 So, one thing I don't quite understand is why is it that the Department of Justice and the FBI have not done this yet?

00:04:05.000 It seems as if there are so many glaring pieces of evidence for voter fraud.

00:04:10.000 For example, Congressman, we have the whistleblower in Wisconsin, Susan, who is not talked about as much, where she says that every one of her developmentally disabled patients was forced against their will to vote for Joe Biden.

00:04:23.000 We have the Nevada Native Project.

00:04:24.000 We have the evidence of voter registration crimes in Georgia and Pennsylvania.

00:04:30.000 And so, is the DOJ just deciding not to investigate this?

00:04:33.000 Have you sent them a letter?

00:04:34.000 Have you been communicating with them?

00:04:36.000 I know, as a member of Congress, you can put pressure on them.

00:04:38.000 Where are they?

00:04:40.000 You know, your guess is as good as mine.

00:04:43.000 I have several theories.

00:04:45.000 Last week, A.G. Barr came out and said that he didn't believe there was fraud.

00:04:50.000 I don't know where he was getting that information.

00:04:52.000 I don't know why he felt the need to come out and say that, even if he believes it.

00:04:56.000 But there's just so many questions that I have.

00:05:00.000 Why is it that the FBI is so interested in investigating and prosecuting admission scandals at our elite educational institutions more than they are investigating fraud in the biggest presidential election in history?

00:05:17.000 I don't know the answer to that, which is why I was suggesting that the president take matters into his own hands and help spur along someone independent that would actually have the bandwidth.

00:05:30.000 The DOJ is spread thin across millions of investigations, and a special counsel would mean a team of professional investigators that are just tasked with unveiling the truth and restoring faith in these elections, which we just don't have.

00:05:43.000 Ted Cruz yesterday said that he would argue the Pennsylvania case and wanted to jump into that because it's just not right that so many Americans feel that there isn't faith in the electoral process.

00:05:56.000 And your question, why isn't the FBI doing more?

00:05:59.000 I don't know, but it's disappointing considering the investigations they've been so eager to jump into in the past.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, and you say that the DOJ is spread thin.

00:06:09.000 I wish I could believe that because they're going after Steve Bannon.

00:06:13.000 They're going after Wayne Lapierre.

00:06:14.000 They went after Dinesh D'Souza.

00:06:16.000 You know, they have plenty of personnel to go after Roger Stone.

00:06:20.000 I mean, they sent a small Central American army after I mean, you could have overthrown a Central American dictatorship with the amount of platoon forces they sent towards Roger Stone.

00:06:30.000 They had people in the canals.

00:06:33.000 They had helicopter support.

00:06:35.000 I mean, Roger is, I'm not saying Roger did nothing wrong and, you know, Roger deserved a pardon, but why did they have to send that kind of forces?

00:06:44.000 People are losing complete and total faith in our justice system and with it, our country.

00:06:50.000 How has been the support for what you've been calling for from other members of Congress?

00:06:55.000 It's great, but it's coming after many of us sent a letter to the Attorney General 10 days ago, or maybe it was two weeks ago, saying, please investigate, and nothing happened.

00:07:06.000 So people are pretty eager to see something happen.

00:07:10.000 We're building support since I first sent the letter initially Friday.

00:07:14.000 I've had probably 20 plus just in the last day say we'd like to sign on.

00:07:19.000 And we're going to resend it, I think, tomorrow on Wednesday or Thursday of this week.

00:07:26.000 And the sentiment among members of Congress, Republican members of Congress, that believe there is fraud that should be investigated is just general frustration that the DOJ has done nothing, that the head of the department comes out and says what he says.

00:07:42.000 I believe it was to the New York Times.

00:07:43.000 He's so comfortable talking to them, but he's not comfortable discovering facts for the American people.

00:07:49.000 And if we don't have faith in our election systems, then we won't have faith in our government and our leaders.

00:07:56.000 Even when we've been on the losing side of elections, this has not been something that our side has said.

00:08:03.000 We didn't all scream that we were cheated when Barack Obama won.

00:08:07.000 We lost.

00:08:08.000 We said we were out-hustled and we lost the race and we'll pick up our pieces and rebuild and come back in four or eight years.

00:08:17.000 So it's not as if Republicans just scream, we were cheated every time we lose an election.

00:08:22.000 We've been on the losing side before, but this one in particular, there have been so many instances of fraud.

00:08:29.000 And the fact that no one seems to want to investigate them is alarming and upsetting.

00:08:33.000 Yeah, it's because they've benefited significantly from it.

00:08:36.000 And we just were watching cable television and we saw some weird progressive group airing ads that are very expensive ads saying that, well, Bill Barr says there's no fraud.

00:08:47.000 It's time to move on. 0.88

00:08:48.000 I say, Doth protest too much. 0.95

00:08:50.000 Why are you all of a sudden running ads telling us that there's no fraud? 1.00

00:08:55.000 I mean, I thought you guys won perfectly.

00:08:58.000 Why do you all of a sudden you have to run kind of counter messaging?

00:09:00.000 Kind of goes to show that there might be something there that we don't know that we might be missing.

00:09:06.000 So I also want to, you have a comment on that.

00:09:09.000 You know, just to kind of go along with that, if I was the other side, I would say, yes, please appoint an independent prosecutor so we can show you that your facts are wrong.

00:09:21.000 We can show you that we really won this and that it was fair.

00:09:24.000 If I were Joe Biden and I believe that I won, I would want everyone to believe that I won, even those that didn't vote for me.

00:09:32.000 It would just eliminate so many issues.

00:09:34.000 Donald Trump, if he really believed he lost, would be making exit plans and would be saying, what can I do, Mr. Biden?

00:09:43.000 But because he doesn't believe that he lost, he's not doing that.

00:09:46.000 And so why wouldn't the other side want to convince the losing side that they say we are that this thing was fair?

00:09:53.000 And we all just move forward as good Americans and the winning side have the support of the losers as much as they possibly could and everyone be at peace with it, even if they don't like it.

00:10:04.000 And the answer is, because I believe that they know there is fraud in some of these states, Georgia especially, it just doesn't make sense, the irregularities, and they don't want them investigated.

00:10:14.000 Why are we not checking signatures and doing a full audit?

00:10:17.000 Why are we just recounting ballots that were potentially with issues the first time around?

00:10:23.000 It makes no sense.

00:10:24.000 Yeah.

00:10:25.000 So I want to ask you about a tweet you sent out in October where you said, have you wondered why Biden Harris refused to condemn China?

00:10:32.000 We have reason to believe the CCP is funneling money to Biden's campaign through green groups.

00:10:37.000 I'm asking the EPA to work with the DOJ to investigate this foreign election interference.

00:10:41.000 Did anything come of that? 0.80

00:10:42.000 Because it's so obvious that the Chinese are funding Democrat soft money groups. 0.73

00:10:47.000 You know, it is, we are told that an investigation is underway. 0.93

00:10:51.000 We, at the time, we sent that request to start this investigation to Bill Barr and also to the EPA because they have an investigatory wing within the EPA.

00:11:04.000 Never in my wildest dreams did I think, well, we need to send this to the EPA because Bill Barr may do nothing with it.

00:11:10.000 But in hindsight, now that we are where we are, considering what he said last week about the lack of fraud, his take on it, I'm especially pleased that we sent it to the EPA because now I'm realizing that they perhaps are more eager to uncover these irregularities than our friends in the DOJ.

00:11:32.000 So the answer to your original question is we're told that they are looking into it and they are investigating.

00:11:41.000 With those green groups, it just doesn't make sense how they have so much money and why they don't disclose it. 0.50

00:11:47.000 So many of these groups are based offshore.

00:11:50.000 They use their nonprofit status and their charity status to claim that they don't have to divulge the source of their revenues, but where they potentially run afoul of the laws or when they are lobbying Congress or when they're spending in elections and influencing votes, so to speak, whether it be in Congress or across the nation.

00:12:10.000 If they're doing that with foreign funds and not disclosing, first of all, if they're doing it with foreign funds, it's illegal.

00:12:15.000 If they're not disclosing it, then it's an absolute criminal intent enterprise.

00:12:20.000 And that's what this investigation seeks to uncover.

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00:14:13.000 Can you give us more kind of detail into how groups like the Sierra Club and these radical environmental groups are, they have a suspicious amount of funding that comes through.

00:14:25.000 And by the way, I believe that Act Blue and BLM, I believe they're also funded by the CCP and their auxiliary groups.

00:14:34.000 If I, and this is such, this is the easiest argument to make, and the left has no patience for this because it's true. 0.70

00:14:40.000 If I was the CCP, I would be the biggest BLM Incorporated fan ever.

00:14:44.000 I would be the biggest Sierra Club fan ever because this would destroy American energy independence and divide the country racially. 0.93

00:14:51.000 Going back to the Sierra Club example, though, can you give us some specifics of the enormity of these budgets, how much support they actually have, and how we don't know where it's coming from?

00:15:02.000 Sure.

00:15:02.000 Let me first compare this to a group that we're familiar with, which is the NRA.

00:15:07.000 If you look at the NRA and their revenues, you can actually pin it all down and say, yes, they've got X number of donors that contribute less than $100 a year combined with their big donors.

00:15:19.000 It makes sense that they have the bank accounts that they have.

00:15:22.000 It makes sense why their headquarters is out in rural Virginia where the rent is not too expensive.

00:15:29.000 And there aren't that many groups like the NRA on the conservative side.

00:15:32.000 You go over to the other side.

00:15:34.000 You've got these various green groups, Sierra Club.

00:15:38.000 They all have headquarters in expensive buildings in places like New York and San Francisco and high-rent districts.

00:15:46.000 They have hundreds of millions of dollars, and it doesn't make sense that they could actually all be funded by small dollar donors.

00:15:53.000 There've got to be big donors that are funding these groups.

00:15:57.000 And frankly, there aren't enough billionaires in America to write the checks that these green groups have.

00:16:02.000 There are so many.

00:16:04.000 How big is their budget, like Sierra Club for many people?

00:16:07.000 We're talking billions of dollars if you combine these groups.

00:16:11.000 And the spending on their advocacy is into the hundreds of millions.

00:16:18.000 They have a team of lawyers.

00:16:20.000 A lot of the things these green groups do besides influence elections or lobby Congress is they have teams of lawyers that are suing energy companies constantly.

00:16:29.000 They are suing local governments.

00:16:32.000 They are just causing litigation to up the price of doing business for these energy companies.

00:16:38.000 And they say that their goal is to get America off their addiction to oil and that they want to move into a green energy future, which sounds good to the average Joe until you really look into it.

00:16:51.000 And before you think about the jobs that energy creates across the U.S.

00:16:56.000 And then when you realize that China is actually the supporter of all this green energy push because they have all the green technology, if they can get to the point where the United States has no energy industry of their own, then one, we're weaker.

00:17:12.000 And two, we're now relying on China for the green energy.

00:17:16.000 And so these green groups, we believe, have been getting funding from places like China who have various intentions.

00:17:24.000 And that's what this request for this investigation is about.

00:17:28.000 Because two months ago, when we requested it, we were in the middle of the presidential election.

00:17:34.000 And we believed that China was getting involved in a way that influenced the vote.

00:17:40.000 And we think that this investigation will turn something up.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, no doubt.

00:17:45.000 That is a just looking at the enormity of these budgets and how much work they do.

00:17:53.000 And so the Sierra Club was part of that list, if I remember correctly.

00:17:58.000 Yeah, so they're 501c4 organizations, so they could be involved in politics as well, and they are.

00:18:03.000 That's right.

00:18:04.000 And there's nothing wrong with them doing that.

00:18:06.000 But if they're getting foreign funding, then they are breaking the law because foreign governments should not be interfering in our elections.

00:18:15.000 And so that is something that we can't seem to uncover.

00:18:18.000 And an investigation allows the EPA and the DOJ to get into bank accounts and see where money's coming from and see what kind of influence potentially these outside nations are having.

00:18:33.000 But places like the Sierra Club, they are involved at the local level.

00:18:37.000 They have gone into large cities and small cities.

00:18:40.000 They've turned county commissioners' courts upside down.

00:18:44.000 And they have, especially in places like Texas or New Mexico, wherever there's some kind of energy potential, they go into the local area and they'll fund races that are not on the radar of the national scene or even the state scene.

00:19:00.000 And they will infiltrate these local city and county elections so they can cause more trouble for energy producers in the area.

00:19:09.000 It's alarming, but if you can control a city council, you can really cause an energy producer quite a bit of problems if they're in your town.

00:19:18.000 Congressman, I want to commend you for your great work you're doing to try and inspire investigations, which would be great if our Department of Justice actually was a Department of Justice, of which the country, the conservative movement and kind of conservative America no longer believes we have a fair justice system, which is a very sad moment in our country.

00:19:38.000 Can you, I want to shift gears here and talk about Texas.

00:19:42.000 President Donald Trump did historically well for Republicans in the Rio Grande Valley.

00:19:49.000 What do you attribute this to?

00:19:50.000 This is something that is not talked about enough, but the Democrats are reeling over the losses, both on the state and federal level there.

00:19:58.000 Why did this happen?

00:19:59.000 Well, I think that the Latino vote in Texas is not as far left as Democrats have tried to convince us that it is.

00:20:10.000 People value the family in South Texas all along the border.

00:20:15.000 They want a strong economy.

00:20:17.000 They don't want a border that is wide open.

00:20:21.000 They don't want their property rights trampled over.

00:20:24.000 They don't want high crime.

00:20:26.000 And I think that message that Donald Trump is the law and order president is something that really matters in places along the Mexican border where security can sometimes be an issue.

00:20:37.000 The economy is something that is good or bad down in South Texas based on how the rest of the nation is going.

00:20:46.000 And I just don't believe that the average family in the southern part of our state along the Mexico border believes in the socialist agenda, that they are the far-left values holders that so many Democrats in Washington seem to espouse.

00:21:06.000 You look down at South Florida and the Cuban areas, people that have a heritage and a background of escaping that Cuban communist regime, they don't suddenly just move to America and start supporting a socialist Democratic Party just because they are not white Republicans.

00:21:27.000 And Democrats, I think, like to spread this message that if you are not an Anglo-white Republican, then you don't belong with this group. 0.78

00:21:39.000 We don't want you to be successful. 0.79

00:21:41.000 We want you to continue to vote for Democrats and what we espouse.

00:21:46.000 We want you to count on the government to take care of you.

00:21:49.000 We want you to stay home and do as we say during this coronavirus.

00:21:54.000 And we're seeing in places like South Texas and South Florida that the Republican Party is appealing to people that want a better life that escaped, whether they escaped from communist Cuba or they came from Mexico and want to better their lives. 0.76

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00:23:23.000 Can you give us some idea of what's going on in Dallas and Houston?

00:23:26.000 Because as Hispanics are becoming more conservative, at least in this last election, what has been happening in Harris County and Dallas County and Tarrant County?

00:23:36.000 Because it seems as if they're going actually in the opposite direction. 0.97

00:23:39.000 Yeah, they are.

00:23:40.000 You know, for the last decade, all we have heard from the Democrats in Texas is that this state is trending blue. 0.76

00:23:49.000 As the Hispanic population increases, it is inevitable that Democrats are going to take over. 0.62

00:23:56.000 How assuming is that for Democrats to just say that they've got these votes because Hispanics just must naturally be Democrats? 0.90

00:24:06.000 I think it's been a rude awakening for Democrats in Texas to realize that just because you're Hispanic doesn't mean you're a Democrat.

00:24:18.000 It's insulting, I think, to the Hispanic people across Texas and places like South Florida to assume that they wouldn't have a mind of their own, that they wouldn't want to better themselves and make decisions for themselves.

00:24:33.000 But that is what we see among the Democratic class of people in Washington and around the nation, is that they just assume that they know best.

00:24:42.000 And we've seen that so much throughout these coronavirus restrictions and lockdowns.

00:24:47.000 Democrats are making decisions for other people and assuming that that's what they want.

00:24:52.000 And I think that in Texas, Democrats really were awakened in a bad way.

00:24:58.000 And they've done a lot of soul searching in the last month and are realizing that the state is perhaps not trending blue and that the Republicans in Texas are modernizing with the rest of the world.

00:25:10.000 It's not the same Republican Party that it was perhaps 10 years ago.

00:25:15.000 We have evolved and we've been more inclusive.

00:25:17.000 If you look at the House victories around the United States, not a single House Republican got beat.

00:25:23.000 And every new member of the House Republican Conference, this next Congress, is either a minority or a veteran or a female.

00:25:32.000 And it's just a diverse group.

00:25:34.000 And so this argument that Democrats are the inclusive ones is harder and harder to convince.

00:25:43.000 And so we're excited.

00:25:45.000 I think in Texas things are going well.

00:25:47.000 I think nationwide people are realizing that the Republican Party of yesterday is not what we have today.

00:25:54.000 I get so frustrated when I hear these people talk about how the Republican Party needs to evolve with the times and that we're going to just get left behind.

00:26:04.000 The governor of Maryland said that, I think, a few days ago.

00:26:06.000 I've heard that from Mitt Romney, as if we're just some backwards people and we deserve to lose.

00:26:12.000 Well, the election results of last month don't indicate that.

00:26:16.000 The election results of last month, where Nancy Pelosi now has the thinnest majority ever and we picked up so many seats, indicate that the American people are on board with what we've been talking about on the Republican side in Congress for quite some time.

00:26:30.000 So it's laughable to me when we start getting preached to by some of the elites in our party that haven't been doing the outreach that the rest of us have been doing.

00:26:43.000 So if things continue as they seem, you know, as the current trajectory, Nancy Pelosi will have a very slim majority, one of the slimmest actually in the last 100 years.

00:26:56.000 What is going to be the position of the Republicans in the minority, but a slim minority, to try to take back the House of Representatives in 2022?

00:27:06.000 What is the message?

00:27:07.000 What is the tactics and the strategy?

00:27:09.000 I'm sure there's already a lot of conversations about it because if Republicans do their job with redistricting and all of this, we should take back the House.

00:27:18.000 You're right.

00:27:19.000 And I don't think there's a Republican that doesn't believe that's possible.

00:27:24.000 And I think many Democrats, in fact, believe it is.

00:27:27.000 And we're working already.

00:27:29.000 We're raising money.

00:27:31.000 We're recruiting candidates in places that we need better candidates.

00:27:35.000 The momentum is on our side.

00:27:38.000 Nancy Pelosi's already announced that she's not running again because I think she knows that in two years there's a really good chance that Democrats lose.

00:27:45.000 She doesn't want to be around when that happens.

00:27:48.000 So she will conveniently say she's retiring probably in the next year or so.

00:27:52.000 But we are on the Republican side.

00:27:55.000 We are planning to enter the next Congress and execute on what we campaigned for and against.

00:28:02.000 We campaign for law and order.

00:28:04.000 We campaign for returning America back to normal and reviving the economy, opposing the lawlessness that so many across our nation rejected back in November.

00:28:17.000 And we're in opposition to these socialist policies.

00:28:21.000 We'll continue to highlight.

00:28:23.000 It's so interesting.

00:28:24.000 Even since they've lost these seats, they don't seem to learn.

00:28:27.000 And they continue to push their far-left agenda.

00:28:31.000 They're trying to get things in these last bills before we close out the holidays.

00:28:36.000 And I really don't know what the Democrats' plan is moving forward, but they typically do not learn from their mistakes.

00:28:42.000 They're continuing to give a voice to some of these far-left extremists that we frankly just love to see on television because it's a reminder to the voters that the Democratic Party is not the party that they perhaps belonged to 10 and 20 years ago.

00:28:59.000 The Democratic Party is far extreme, far left, and not what most Americans want.

00:29:05.000 No doubt.

00:29:06.000 And so the message I think will then, of course, depend on who is going to become president of the United States, whether Trump will be able to be able to change a couple of things or whether it will be Joe Biden.

00:29:20.000 And I think that a lot of the Democrats are almost resigning to the fact that this will be their last kind of go-around, which is why they're trying to make Georgia such an aggressive push.

00:29:33.000 As we're doing this podcast right now, God bless Texas is trending on Twitter because it looks like Texas is asking the Supreme Court to rule the election in four battleground states unconstitutional, which is pretty incredible.

00:29:49.000 So do you have any thoughts on this?

00:29:51.000 Texas, the state of Texas on Tuesday filed an election lawsuit in the U.S. Supreme Court against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

00:29:59.000 I mean, I think it's great that we're all coming together.

00:30:05.000 Texas, for example, is my home, and we're acknowledging that there is discontent, not just with the results, but with the process.

00:30:15.000 And I've said this before: you know, if we lost this election and it was fair, then fine.

00:30:20.000 We will work harder next time and we will be ready.

00:30:23.000 But if we lost this election because it was cheated and stolen, then what do you do?

00:30:29.000 And that's why we're fighting because we believe there was fraud.

00:30:34.000 And the answer really, no one knows exactly how much, which is why I've asked for this independent counsel to understand and investigate and make this process fair and answer these questions and put to bed all of these statements that are competing from both sides.

00:30:53.000 And it's just, it's stunning to me that the other side would not want to have the confidence of our side.

00:31:00.000 And right now they don't.

00:31:02.000 And in Texas, we're jumping into that fight.

00:31:05.000 So I'm excited about that.

00:31:07.000 Ted Cruz actually offering to argue the Pennsylvania case, I think, just speaks to the volume of support that he has back home and that people across the nation feel.

00:31:20.000 Never in the history of a presidential election have so many people felt it was stolen.

00:31:24.000 And it's not just because President Trump says it.

00:31:27.000 It's because we have seen so many instances of fraud.

00:31:30.000 And the fact that our own Justice Department won't investigate it is scary to me.

00:31:35.000 And It needs to change fast because the American people deserve better.

00:31:40.000 So the final question.

00:31:41.000 President Trump said he will veto the National Defense Authorization Act if it doesn't include a termination of Section 230.

00:31:50.000 I think this is terrific.

00:31:51.000 What is your thought on this?

00:31:53.000 100% agree.

00:31:54.000 I will be a no vote.

00:31:56.000 There are other problems in that bill other than just the termination of the Section 230.

00:32:01.000 But I think that if the Section 230 issue were fixed, the President would probably go for passing the bill.

00:32:09.000 But as it stands today, as you and I talk on this podcast, it looks like the plan is for the president to veto that.

00:32:17.000 And then leaders in the House and Senate claim to have the votes to overturn his veto before Christmas.

00:32:24.000 We'll see if that happens.

00:32:26.000 But I will not support a bill that continues to protect big tech.

00:32:31.000 And I think it's crazy to me when I hear people, even from my own party, say that this bill is not the place for that.

00:32:38.000 The purpose of this bill is to protect our military.

00:32:42.000 The purpose of the Department of Defense is to defend our nation.

00:32:46.000 And if we are not defending the people with such a simple fix in this bill, then it seems as if we're missing an opportunity.

00:32:56.000 Excellent.

00:32:56.000 Well, Congressman, thank you so much for joining our program today.

00:32:59.000 We deeply appreciate it.

00:33:00.000 Keep up the great work, and hopefully we'll be able to see some restoration of our justice system soon.

00:33:06.000 I hope as well.

00:33:07.000 And Merry Christmas.

00:33:08.000 Thank you.

00:33:08.000 Talk to you soon.

00:33:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:14.000 Your support means the world at charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:33:18.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:22.000 And as always, if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:33:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:28.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 14, 2020

The Case For a Special Counsel Investigation Into Election Irregularities

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