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00:02:56.000We continue covering the Bronx takeover, the MAGA takeover of the Bronx here with Gavin Wax, who is the president of the New York Young Republicans.
00:03:08.000Gavin, give us some idea of what it was like yesterday and some context for our national audience of how remarkable it is to have a turnout like that in the Bronx.
00:03:18.000Well, thank you for having me on, Charlie.
00:03:19.000And absolutely, this was a historic event by any measure.
00:03:22.000I mean, the last Republican to win the Bronx was 100 years ago with Calvin Coolidge and many other presidents, Republicans and Democrats have tried to visit the South Bronx.
00:03:35.000What we saw yesterday was a massive outpour of support for President Trump in one of the bluest areas of the country.
00:03:41.000You know, some estimates as high as 25,000 people showed up being on the ground there myself, you know, setting up from the early in the morning and not leaving until well after the rally finished.
00:03:51.000There were more people outside trying to get in than were actually able to get inside due to the security and due to the limitations of the park.
00:03:58.000So, this just goes to show the outpouring of support.
00:04:00.000And despite what some people are trying to say, the vast, vast, vast majority of these people, if they were not from the Bronx, they were from Upper Manhattan, they were from the outer boroughs.
00:04:08.000This was a New York crowd through and through.
00:04:11.000It really showed all sides of this city, all sides of America.
00:04:15.000And it reiterates that make America great again applies to all Americans, not just red states, but blue states, urban America, suburban, rural, you know, from Detroit and the Rust Belt to the South Bronx.
00:04:42.000We had the honor of having President Trump at our annual gala this past December.
00:04:46.000I became aware of some, I saw a great video that Kara Castranova did on Newsmax where she went to some man on the street type of videos in the Bronx.
00:04:53.000And, you know, we were talking New York politics.
00:05:08.000We were in talks with the team starting in January, scouting different locations.
00:05:12.000It was originally planned to be an indoor rally.
00:05:15.000We had some venues that were indoors, but then the numbers kept jumping up.
00:05:19.000It went from more of a retail stop, then from an indoor kind of like roundtable, and then it fully scaled up to a rally.
00:05:26.000So we picked the biggest park in the South Bronx, which is being defined as south of Fordham Road, and that's Gretona Park.
00:05:32.000We worked with City Council Member Joe Borrelli to get all the permits for the park, you know, paid the money.
00:05:37.000We were fighting to get more space, but obviously the city of New York was not going to be as amenable as they could have, which was also part of the reason why many people struggled to get in because the number of mags that Secret Service could have is only dependent on the permit.
00:05:52.000The club printed almost six, 7,000 flyers, double-sided bilingual Spanish and English.
00:05:59.000And our friends at the Bodega Association, who we did the Bodega stop with in the Heights and the Hispanic National Supermarket Association, spread those across the entire Bronx.
00:06:07.000And we took over several electronic billboards in the lead up to the event to promote.
00:06:11.000So honestly, anyone saying otherwise, they should be ashamed of themselves because this scared the living crap out of AOC and the Democrat establishment of the Bronx.
00:06:20.000They couldn't even muster a protest in the days leading up to it or the day of.
00:06:24.000They had a town hall with AOC with about 12 people half asleep.
00:06:28.000Richie Torres had a press conference with about 30 people.
00:07:32.000Why would they be trying to shut down the subways if they didn't think President Trump had any support?
00:07:37.000Because, you know, it would make sense that if he truly had no support in the Bronx, then let him do his rally and let him be embarrassed.
00:07:43.000But the fact is, they were trying to sabotage this event because they had a suspicion that he would get a good showing, that he would, a lot of people would come out.
00:07:51.000And let me just remind your viewers that this is a park deep in the Bronx.
00:08:59.000It's still a very, you know, long shot, but I do think this is going to be the closest it's ever been for President Trump.
00:09:05.000It's probably going to be the closest any Republican has been in New York at presidential level in a very long time.
00:09:10.000You know, you see the Sienna polling coming out every month.
00:09:12.000They do a poll, and they're generally one of the better pollsters here in New York, especially as it comes to gubernatorial races and others.
00:09:17.000They've shown every month it's tightened by a point.
00:09:20.000So I think the most recent poll had it about as a nine-point differential.
00:09:24.000And, you know, if that trend continues for another six months, you know, you could bring it within three within the margin of error if he keeps that up.
00:09:30.000I certainly think he's going to see a boost from this latest rally.
00:09:34.000But like you said at best, this is going to help down ballot candidates.
00:09:36.000It's also going to help his national popular vote figure, which, of course, doesn't matter in the strictest electoral sense, but it's certainly a number to brag about.
00:09:44.000And it's a number that shifts the narrative.
00:09:46.000But listen, I think states like New York are realigning.
00:09:49.000I think states like New Jersey are realigning.
00:09:51.000We are seeing a whole change going on in this country where some of these Democrat-dominated areas are finally beginning to wake up.
00:09:57.000They've seen years of mismanagement and one-party rule, and they're pushing back.
00:10:02.000And I think President Trump is taking advantage of that to the best of his abilities.
00:10:12.000He can meet with the Steamfitters Union in Midtown.
00:10:14.000And he can talk about issues like the border.
00:10:16.000He could talk about issues like crime, like corruption in New York in a big media market.
00:10:21.000So none of these things are wasting any resources from elsewhere, particularly when he's already in New York for this crooked and ridiculous trial.
00:10:28.000But I definitely think he's going to have a very good showing in New York.
00:10:31.000I think it's going to be beneficial across the board.
00:10:33.000And if you told me in 10 years that New York is a more purple state, I believe it.
00:10:37.000It wasn't too long ago that Lee Zeldon got 47% in this state.
00:11:01.000I mean, I've heard some numbers in terms of the cost there.
00:11:03.000It certainly would be a lot, but I can't think of anything better in terms of optics, in terms of New York aesthetics than taking over the garden and packing that out.
00:11:11.000I think that would be historic in a big way.
00:11:13.000And look, again, New York is very close to PA, for example, or even New Hampshire.
00:11:19.000And some of these other states that are a little bit more in play are certainly much more critical.
00:11:22.000So there's no reason you can't have a bunch of PA residents coming in from New York, from Pennsylvania.
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00:13:26.000One of the reasons why they're so outraged is that Joe Biden is going out of his way to bribe and pander for sweeping student loan amnesty.
00:13:36.000He took a law that Congress passed after 9-11 allowing for an emergency suspension of student loans due to the war on terrorism and said this allowed him to use the COVID emergency as an excuse and cancel any loans he wanted.
00:13:49.000Last year, the Supreme Court said, nope, you can't do that.
00:13:51.000That's clearly not what the law was meant for.
00:13:53.000But however, Joe Biden keeps on doing it.
00:13:58.000How desperate are Democrats to cling on to power?
00:14:01.000They're just flagrantly ignoring the Supreme Court and doing amnesty anyway by tweaking their plans slightly and claiming it's a totally new approach.
00:14:08.000Biden has already given out more than $15 billion worth of student loan forgiveness, affecting more than 300,000 borrowers.
00:14:16.000Right now, his administration says they're planning a bigger amnesty, hitting as many as 30 million borrowers.
00:14:23.000Their plan is basically slightly tweak our old forgiveness, say it's a totally different one, and dare the Supreme Court to stop us again.
00:14:30.000And of course, if the court does stop them, they'll just find another way to ignore them.
00:14:37.000The Biden government doesn't view the Supreme Court as an equal branch of government to be listened to.
00:14:42.000It's an obstacle to be overcome or to be steamrolled.
00:14:46.000Even if it fails, the plan is to make it so that there are millions of people who either credit Biden with forgiving their unpaid loans or make them believe that a Biden win for them is a direct financial windfall for them.
00:14:58.000Biden is basically trying to buy votes with taxpayer dollars very directly.
00:15:03.000And this creates mass resentment amongst those of us that did not go to college.
00:15:09.000I did not go to college and I do not have a four-year degree.
00:15:12.000Many of you do not have a four-year degree.
00:15:14.000The same perversion that is involved in the plunder intergenerationally of older people that are stealing from their children, this is equally as perverse.
00:15:25.000We are going to tax the plumber so that they can bail out the feminazi who has a degree in North African lesbian poetry.
00:15:37.000We are going to tax the police officer, take his money to go pay the Starbucks barista barista that has a marketing degree.
00:15:49.000It is a tax and it is a plundering of those that did not go to college.
00:15:57.000It's also a tax and a plundering for those of you that went to community college and paid your way through school.
00:16:04.000It is a tax and theft of those of you that played college sports, woke up very early at 5 a.m. to get into a 40-degree pool to go swim laps because not that you were that passionate about swimming, but you wanted to get your school paid for, understandably.
00:16:21.000It is an insult to those of you that worked three jobs to pay yourself through college.
00:16:26.000What Joe Biden is doing is he is mass signaling on the incentive structure side, which is, should you pay off your loans?
00:16:37.000And I could tell you, a family that I know very well has about $30,000 in student loans.
00:18:01.000Because they decided to go study something stupid at Northern Arizona University.
00:18:07.000You are on the hook for that, not the welder, not the mechanic.
00:18:13.000Anybody who works with their hands, we need a triumphant message this November that you will not vote for Joe Biden and his upside-down backwards plundering attacks, taking your money and Robinhood in reverse.
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00:20:03.000The Biden DOJ came down, threatened us after our county commissioner redistricting said, if you don't create a coalition district, we're going to sue you.
00:20:15.000We knew we would lose at the trial court level because the Fifth Circuit ruled on this in 1994.
00:20:21.000But when we went to the Fifth Circuit to appeal it, the three judge panels said, well, we've already ruled on this, but we were wrong.
00:20:27.000Please ask for a full court hearing on this.
00:20:30.000They granted it within a couple of days.
00:20:32.000We had that full court hearing a couple of weeks ago.
00:20:34.000And now we hope that we're on the verge of the entire court reversing the previous court's decision to allow coalition districts.
00:20:42.000If that happens, then coalition districts are done underneath the Fifth Circuit, and that's at least five seats in the House of Representatives.
00:20:49.000If the state legislatures will go back and redistrict and break up the coalition districts, then if the Supreme Court will take it and rule similarly, which we think they will, then that's where you're going to get the 12 or more seats across the country.
00:21:02.000But again, the individual states have got to go back and engage in the redistricting process and break up the coalition districts.
00:21:09.000So would this then be in effect this November or is it too tight to this election?
00:21:15.000It'd be too soon because the ruling from the Fifth Circuit, while it would be immediately effective, the state legislatures wouldn't have time to go back, redistrict, hold elections, and have candidates on the ballot in November.
00:21:26.000So it's not going to be anything that's going to impact this November's election.
00:21:30.000But if the states will do what we're hoping to give them the tools to do, it will be effective for 2026.
00:23:01.000And the thing that I find interesting is that this is a county commissioner lawsuit.
00:23:07.000The Biden DOJ seem to care a lot about a little old county commissioner, and they're going to end up flipping the House of Representatives more favorably toward the Republicans.
00:23:18.000So the timeline is that this would be in effect in 2026.
00:23:22.000And just everyone understands the potential coalition-based districts in Florida, there's Orlando, Tampa, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Georgia, Georgia 7th, Indiana, the 7th, North Carolina, 1 and 12, Ohio, 11th, South Carolina, 6th, and several in Texas.
00:23:36.000So this could have wide-ranging national implications.
00:23:43.000So the Fifth Circuit, once they issue their opinion, if it goes our way as we expect it will, that will cover the states of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi.
00:23:50.000Then we need to get it to the Supreme Court so they can have a ruling to make this a national issue, where nationwide there are no more coalition districts.
00:23:58.000So if it goes up to SCOTUS, so does it need to appeal or what is the process there?
00:24:05.000Once the Fifth Circuit issues their opinion, we expect the plaintiffs will appeal to the Supreme Court, but that's where it needs to go because we're going to have differing decisions out of courts of appeal across the country.
00:24:15.000That's really difficult for a nation to have different courts of appeal having different opinions on a legal issue.
00:24:22.000So we have a small three, four House majority right now.
00:24:36.000Once again, it's up to the state legislatures to have the will to go in and say, okay, now that we've been given these tools, let's take advantage of them, redraw the congressional districts, and do away with coalition districts.
00:24:47.000So then is that the action item to have the audience contact their state legislatures, make them aware of what is happening here?
00:24:54.000What is the call to action for the audience?
00:25:04.000I don't think it's going to be all that long of a wait.
00:25:07.000And as soon as that happens, then those three states, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, absolutely contact your legislatures and say, get in there, redistrict using these new tools that you've been given by Galveston County.
00:26:24.000Virtually every magistrate court I see the docket for has got Spanish only by some of the defendants.
00:26:30.000They are, you know, I can't say that that's definitive, that they're illegally here, but there's more and more that don't speak English at all.
00:26:36.000So it's a problem for every county in this country.
00:26:39.000And I'm surprised that some people still don't realize that.
00:26:42.000In Texas, do you believe that that issue is going to swing in Republicans' favor even more so in 2020?
00:26:50.000Is it baked in, if you will, with the everyday Texan when I visit, the border is a top issue?
00:27:22.000Let's go to Cut 109, please, talking about the, there are more Republicans and dissatisfied Democrats in the state of New York than we'd like to admit.
00:27:33.000And I want to build you up, and then I want to also just kind of make sure we sober ourselves because there's a new article out of RealClear Politics that I think is very important.
00:27:42.000Could Trump's visit help him make inroads in these voting blocks that have been more traditionally Democratic, like with black or Hispanic voters?
00:27:52.000The real reason why Donald Trump is going to the Bronx is to say to the Democratic voters of the Bronx, has Joe Biden been here?
00:27:59.000I don't think he necessarily thinks he's going to get black and Latino voters to vote for him.
00:28:03.000The strategy is to get them to abstain from voting for anyone on the top.
00:28:07.000New York is the reason why Joe Biden didn't have unified government in 2022.
00:28:12.000We're the ones who lost the four members of the House who went over to the Republican Party.
00:28:16.000So, yes, it seems like a long shot that Donald Trump would ever win New York, but looking at those Lee Zeldon numbers in 2022 does make me realize that there are a lot more Republicans and dissatisfied Democrats in the state of New York than we'd like to admit.
00:28:31.000Here's the other part of the Bronx rally that's very important.
00:28:34.000It makes Democrats defend their own turf.
00:28:37.000It's easier to defend turf than it is to take new turf.
00:28:39.000But now they're going to have to spend more money in House seats.
00:28:41.000They're going to have to spend, pour more money into these core districts.
00:28:45.000Remember when Donald Trump said, what do you have to lose?
00:28:48.000He does not have to ask that now because blacks already know what they're losing.
00:28:51.000Their purchasing power, their country.
00:28:53.000Now, things feel really good, everybody, but I want to talk about this article in RealClear Politics.
00:28:58.000Quote, in our Real Clear Politics National Two-Way Average, Marquette today has the race tide.
00:29:03.000Exactly where we had it three months ago.
00:29:06.000Quinnipiak has Biden up one, and Mornay Consult the day before has Trump up one.
00:29:09.000Now, these are national polls, not state-based polls.
00:29:12.000Quote: RCP polling averages show a very, very close 2024 election.
00:29:16.000It is so tempting, everybody, to see these Bronx clips, to see this and say, we're going to win in a landslide.
00:29:59.000We need every single one of you to download the Turning Point Action app and to knock on more doors and to find low-propensity voters.
00:30:05.000Your job this Memorial Day weekend, let me be very clear: you have homework, everybody.
00:30:09.000Find one person at the grocery store, at the restaurant, at the coffee shop, at a Memorial Day party.
00:30:17.000You find one person, and when politics comes up, because it will, because everything about politics now, say, hey, are you registered to vote?
00:30:23.000And if they are not registered to vote, get them registered to vote right then and there.
00:31:13.000We got Vivek Ramaswamy, Dr. Ben Carson, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump Jr., Candace Owens, Congressman Michael Cloud, Mike Lindell, Congressman Eric Burleson, Scott Pressler, Brandon Tatum, Matt Gates,
00:31:28.000Tom Klingenstein, Warren Davidson, Carrie Lake, Lee Zeldon, Bishop Aubrey Shines, Congressman Eli Crane, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Jack Pesobic, Senator Rick Scott, Nigel Farage, Lara Trump, Governor Christy Noam, Congressman Byron Donalds, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, and Benny Johnson.
00:32:39.000What makes politics different and what makes this different is that not only do you get to cheer for your favorite team, you get to participate alongside of your team and make it happen.
00:32:51.000Just today, we hosted a moms coalition at Turning Point Headquarters.
00:33:33.000The breakout sessions alone are worth its weight of coming.
00:33:37.000How to use the Turning Point Action app, how to take over your local Republican Party, how to become a precinct committeeman, how to properly register voters, hearing from people like Scott Pressler, Steve Bannon, Mike Lindell, and then the names that are moving the dial every day: Candace Owens, Vivek Ramaswamy, Ben Carson.
00:33:55.000This is how we win, and it's going to require every single one of us.
00:34:01.000It's not like watching the Dallas Cowboys where you think you make a difference because you wear your favorite jersey and you cheer real loud.
00:34:16.000If election integrity is your thing, we're going to have entire workshops of how to secure our elections, how to get involved and see what's actually happening and to prevent that in Maricopa County, in Pinal County, in Fulton County, in Cobb County.
00:34:30.000No matter what state you are from, coming to Detroit at our People's Convention is going to be time well spent.
00:34:37.000Every single one of you is a mini campaign office, a force multiplier.
00:34:41.000That's how you have to think about it.
00:34:44.000And you say, well, Charlie, I can't leave the home very much.
00:34:47.000Then use the Turning Point Action app to start making calls.
00:34:50.000Some of you are unable to knock on a lot of doors, still influence your local family, and make a list.
00:34:55.000We're going to tell you one of the things that we're going to start talking about over the summer is: have you made your list of your hundred voters that you're responsible for?
00:35:01.000100 people that during voting month, you're going to start knocking up.
00:35:04.000So, Charlie, how do I know those people?