The Charlie Kirk Show - The Demons in American Life: A Panel Discussion with Eric Metaxas and James Lindsay LIVE from AmericaFest 2022

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00:00:01.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Eric Metaxas, a Christian, and James Lindsay, an agnostic, on stage with me talking about wokeism and the need for the church to rise up live from Turning Point USA's America Fest.

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00:01:19.000 James Lindsay, Eric Metaxas.

00:01:20.000 Welcome, guys.

00:01:21.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:01:23.000 Good to be here, my man.

00:01:24.000 Hey, America Fest.

00:01:29.000 So, James, we have limited time for a very complex yet incredibly important topic.

00:01:35.000 What is wokeism and why must it be defeated?

00:01:38.000 Well, it has to be defeated.

00:01:39.000 That's easy because it's evil.

00:01:41.000 It's very evil.

00:01:42.000 It's destructive.

00:01:43.000 It's actually poisonous.

00:01:44.000 But what woke is means, let's get technical.

00:01:47.000 Sorry, y'all, if you thought this was going to be light work.

00:01:49.000 What woke is means is being awakened to a critical consciousness of the world.

00:01:54.000 That's literally what it means.

00:01:55.000 It means learning to believe that the world is made out of dehumanizing forms like racism and sexism and classism and ableism and disablism and fatphobia.

00:02:04.000 And oh my God, it goes on.

00:02:06.000 And that it's made out of domesticating modes like education, culture, media, et cetera, that grind you into believing that this is how it's supposed to be.

00:02:15.000 And you are awakened to this so that you can denounce it at every turn to destroy the world that exists so that a more perfect world might be born in its ashes.

00:02:26.000 So a more perfect world might be born if you abolish all of those things.

00:02:31.000 Yeah, you got to get the existing society out of the way, Charlie, in order to have room for the utopia.

00:02:35.000 Got it.

00:02:36.000 So this is a perfect segue to what I want to talk to Eric about.

00:02:39.000 That sounds really religious, though, James.

00:02:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:02:43.000 This is dark, dark religion. 0.99

00:02:45.000 What kind of religion is this?

00:02:48.000 It's cults.

00:02:49.000 It's Gnostic and Hermetic cults that have been turned into politics and economics. 0.66

00:02:53.000 Social politics in particular.

00:02:55.000 So yeah, absolutely.

00:02:56.000 Gnostic and hermetic.

00:02:58.000 Eric, you wanted to chime in?

00:02:59.000 Because you know those are the same.

00:03:00.000 Let me cut to the chase since we don't have a lot of time.

00:03:02.000 It's satanic.

00:03:05.000 We have to be clear.

00:03:07.000 You know, James is the academic, so he's going to give us those granular details.

00:03:13.000 I'm going to cut to the chase.

00:03:14.000 Without any question, I don't say this to be cheeky, although I want to be cheeky. 0.70

00:03:20.000 This is satanic. 0.90

00:03:22.000 It is a project to try to kill God, to destroy God, to create a tower of Babel, to climb into the heavens of our own accord without his help. 0.99

00:03:36.000 And when we get up there, we can murder him and we can be God. 0.92

00:03:40.000 That is what Satan promised in the garden.

00:03:43.000 You see it all through history, certainly in the French Revolution and with the advent of Marxism and into the last century and into this century.

00:03:54.000 But we've never seen it as clearly as we're now seeing it.

00:03:58.000 They used to talk about it as this, it's this wonderful utopianist scheme.

00:04:02.000 You know, in 1968, it was flower power.

00:04:05.000 Now we see the vileness and the evil of it on display.

00:04:10.000 It is at war with everything that is good and beautiful and true.

00:04:14.000 But Eric, that is worthy of applause.

00:04:17.000 You wrote a book, Letter to the American Church.

00:04:20.000 It's a fabulous piece. 0.97

00:04:22.000 Why is it that most churches are putting up with this garbage? 1.00

00:04:26.000 Because they too are of their father the devil. 1.00

00:04:30.000 That's all I think.

00:04:31.000 I'm kidding.

00:04:33.000 Let's be honest, Charlie.

00:04:34.000 You know this is true.

00:04:36.000 The reason I wrote my book, Letter to the American Church, was because I saw horrific, undeniable parallels between the silence of the church in Germany on the lead up to Hitler taking power with the silence of the American church today with globalist, atheist, Marxist authoritarians trying to take power.

00:05:02.000 The silence is the same.

00:05:03.000 The naivete of the church in Germany in the 30s, we don't actually think that they knew they were doing evil.

00:05:10.000 They thought they were doing the right thing.

00:05:12.000 They said, we're not supposed to be political.

00:05:14.000 Romans 13, we just want to preach the gospel.

00:05:17.000 Let us preach our little gospel. 1.00

00:05:18.000 And the Nazis said, go ahead, preach your little toothless, idiotic gospel. 1.00

00:05:23.000 And when you leave that building on Sunday morning, you bow to the secular authority of the state. 1.00

00:05:30.000 That is exactly what they say to people who go to the official churches in China today.

00:05:34.000 And that's what they're trying to do here.

00:05:36.000 And the horror, and this is a horror, is that many American church leaders have bought these lies and are unaware that they are ushering in satanic evil on par with what the silence of the German church ushered in in the 30s.

00:05:53.000 And that's why my book is written as a warning to the American church to say, I know that there are good people that are getting this wrong.

00:06:01.000 Those who can still hear these things, I wrote the book for them by God's grace.

00:06:06.000 If enough people will understand this and understand that we have an obligation before God to live out our faith, not to talk about it, not to say I believe it, but to live it out and to speak against evil.

00:06:18.000 If you're not doing that, it proves you have no faith, which if you think you're saved by faith, then you should be very scared by that.

00:06:27.000 James, you are agnostic, and yet you are nodding along with Eric saying that this is demonic and they want to replace God.

00:06:37.000 Help me understand that.

00:06:38.000 Well, I mean, it depends on how deep you want to get into Marxism, but the idea was, in fact, to cast down God.

00:06:43.000 Marx saw this.

00:06:44.000 A lot of people don't bother to read Karl Marx, and most Marxists don't seem to have bothered to read Karl Marx.

00:06:49.000 Karl Marx believed that man begets himself and it's his job to find that out about himself and to complete himself.

00:06:58.000 And when man completes himself, guess how you're going to be?

00:07:02.000 So you're going to cast down anything like religion.

00:07:04.000 He says the criticism of everything begins with the criticism of religion.

00:07:08.000 This is the famous opium of the masses rant from 1844.

00:07:12.000 He says, what you're going to do is you're going to become aware that you are incomplete and that you can complete yourself through man's processes, through social processes, through becoming aware of the true nature of reality, which, P.S., he's the only one who knows what it is.

00:07:26.000 And then we're going to live in the kingdom.

00:07:28.000 We go forward to a Marxist from the 1960s or 1950s in this case, Herbert Marcuse.

00:07:33.000 He writes an Eris in Civilization explicitly, his book about grooming.

00:07:38.000 It's about sex, by the way.

00:07:40.000 He writes in this book, besides that higher culture is found through the love of boys, which is in there, page 211.

00:07:47.000 He also writes in that book that the way back into the Garden of Eden is by taking a second bite from the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

00:07:54.000 So I agree with my friend Eric, despite my not knowing what his spiritual words mean in fullness.

00:08:00.000 And James, this entire agenda is to not, I mean, we have to focus on the metaphysical part of it, but let's focus on what you just kind of really went through quickly.

00:08:12.000 Grooming, war on children, queer theory. 0.92

00:08:16.000 This is a very real now threat that is widespread in our schools.

00:08:21.000 That's right.

00:08:22.000 What's happening in the schools is positively evil.

00:08:25.000 You just heard from Matt Walsh, we all heard how evil it is.

00:08:28.000 We all see how evil it is because we're not necessarily evil people.

00:08:31.000 And it's obvious to not evil people that messing with children, sterilizing children, putting them through double mastectomies, grooming them, hiding it from their parents, socially transitioning them, calling it gender-affirming care is all evil.

00:08:43.000 I said on this stage a year ago, queer theory opens the gates to hell. 1.00

00:08:47.000 You know what I was talking about now, don't you?

00:08:50.000 One year ago.

00:08:51.000 So this queer theory stuff, though, all ties back in.

00:08:54.000 For Marxists, it destroys the individual.

00:08:57.000 It severs you from knowing who you are.

00:08:59.000 So you become groomable into a political ideology.

00:09:02.000 It severs you from your family, which might pull you back out of the cult.

00:09:06.000 It severs you from your faith, which is going to look obsolete.

00:09:10.000 It severs you from your culture, which looks like it's old and needs to be destroyed, just like how Mao Zedong said, go out and destroy the four olds, including old culture, old ways of thinking, in order to bring in the new reborn era. 0.99

00:09:23.000 And so this is all exactly what you're saying, all exactly what you're afraid of, Charlie.

00:09:27.000 Eric.

00:09:29.000 Charlie.

00:09:33.000 We have to be clear.

00:09:34.000 Tucker, who was raised an Episcopalian, which is effectively Buddhist, right?

00:09:42.000 Tucker, because he's so smart and such a good man, you could hear in his talk last night, he gets this.

00:09:50.000 In other words, if you don't have a dog in the fight, you're just looking around, trying to make sense of where we are.

00:09:57.000 It's almost impossible now to see it as anything but a spiritual battle between good and evil.

00:10:05.000 And that is what is new.

00:10:07.000 In other words, we could have talked about this in political terms, in all kinds of terms in the past, but the evil has become more evil, more pronounced.

00:10:16.000 That's to me the joy of the advent of Donald Trump.

00:10:20.000 He flushed the birds out, to use another Tucker reference.

00:10:23.000 He flushed the pheasants out.

00:10:24.000 And we now see what was there all along.

00:10:28.000 And so all kinds of people, whether it's James or Tucker, who would not ordinarily see things along a spiritual spectrum, you really can't help but see it.

00:10:40.000 And if you see it along a spiritual spectrum, that's when you say, okay, God calls his church, those who dare to call themselves Christian. 0.95

00:10:50.000 If you don't call yourself Christian, you're out.

00:10:52.000 God is saying to the people who dare say, I'm a Christian, I believe Jesus died on the cross for me and rose from the dead, defeated death.

00:10:59.000 Oh, you believe that?

00:11:01.000 Okay, now you need to live that, or I know you don't believe it.

00:11:05.000 And the evil that is coming into our culture now, let's face it, this is God's judgment on the church. 0.56

00:11:13.000 If the world goes to hell, it is those who claim to believe in Jesus who did nothing and said nothing.

00:11:19.000 There are plenty of pastors and Christian leaders that are being silent in the face of evil.

00:11:24.000 Their silence is absolutely no different than the silence of the Germans and the rise of the Nazis. 0.72

00:11:30.000 But their excuses are also exactly the same excuses.

00:11:35.000 So in the book letter to the American Church, I kind of explain why they believe these lies and these excuses and why Bonhoeffer spoke against them and tried to clarify that you're getting this wrong.

00:11:47.000 And if you don't get this right immediately, we're in big trouble.

00:11:51.000 Clearly, they waited and waited, and they waited just too long.

00:11:55.000 And when many of them woke up, they realized we have no voice, we have no power, the church has been crushed, and the forces of evil have won.

00:12:04.000 That will happen in the United States if the American church does not wake up. 0.91

00:12:09.000 So, and James, is that an over-exaggeration?

00:12:13.000 I'm not saying, I mean.

00:12:14.000 Maybe it's just an exaggeration.

00:12:16.000 No, exactly, over-exaggeration.

00:12:18.000 Is that meaning is are we being too alarmist, James?

00:12:21.000 I mean, come on, I hear from pastors.

00:12:23.000 Sometimes I talk to the wokeys. 1.00

00:12:25.000 There is one pastor here that went to the media and said, look, I think that what Turning Point USA is doing is wrong and TP USA faith because we should have racial reconciliation and that Jesus would have done this and that we should have white privilege seminars and that we need to love, you know, the disadvantaged and all of these things.

00:12:47.000 James, what will a country or the church or the civilization look like if we embrace these ideas?

00:12:55.000 I mean, it's a catastrophe.

00:12:57.000 I couldn't tell you for certain how bad it's going to be, but every example so far has been horrible.

00:13:01.000 This one will be worse.

00:13:03.000 This one will be worse.

00:13:04.000 The atrocities of the 20th century cost maybe 100 million lives.

00:13:09.000 This will go into the billions if they get their way.

00:13:12.000 This is what we're up against.

00:13:13.000 And when we talk about the infestation or the weakness or whatever other pieces, because both are happening, it's not just that we have naive pastors, naive theologians.

00:13:21.000 We have double agents.

00:13:23.000 We have infiltration into these institutions, your seminaries, your churches, your pulpits.

00:13:30.000 And they are preaching this false gospel.

00:13:32.000 They're using the exact language that you were saying.

00:13:34.000 They're saying, oh, love thy neighbor.

00:13:35.000 What's it mean?

00:13:36.000 Slap a mask on. 0.92

00:13:37.000 Don't see your mom while she dies.

00:13:39.000 This is love thy neighbor because we have to protect for the greater good.

00:13:42.000 We're all in this together.

00:13:43.000 That's what Jesus would have wanted.

00:13:45.000 They are doing this intentionally because they know that the church should be the strongest and last defense against evil.

00:13:55.000 And if they can corrupt it from within, it cannot be a defense against evil.

00:14:00.000 They know this.

00:14:02.000 And that is exactly what the Nazis knew.

00:14:06.000 The Nazis knew that there were enough pastors. 0.93

00:14:09.000 Hitler sneered at them. 0.82

00:14:11.000 He said they're just, they're meek.

00:14:13.000 They'll do as they're told.

00:14:14.000 And he took advantage of that.

00:14:16.000 And they did as they were told.

00:14:18.000 And he was able to take power.

00:14:20.000 And, you know, for those people, and there are many in the church who've bought this lie that we're not supposed to be political.

00:14:27.000 And then there are other people that just defeat us and they say, well, America has run its course.

00:14:31.000 Charlie, you mentioned this yesterday in your talk.

00:14:34.000 The idea that empires have an arc of about 250 years and we're just, ladies and gentlemen, this is not an empire, okay?

00:14:43.000 Lincoln called us God's almost chosen people.

00:14:47.000 God chose this nation in a way that he has never chosen another nation to be a beacon of freedom for the whole world.

00:14:58.000 So when you compare us to any other empire or whatever, it doesn't work.

00:15:05.000 There never has been a nation founded on God's principles whose founding documents reference God and say that he is the one that gives us our rights.

00:15:16.000 So the idea that, well, there's nothing we can do, particularly if the church does nothing, we will go to hell very, very swiftly.

00:15:25.000 But I believe it is God's will.

00:15:26.000 I believe this firmly, that we're in a tremendous battle.

00:15:30.000 We have to live self-sacrificially, but that if we do that, God will give us what Lincoln called a new birth of freedom.

00:15:38.000 There will be revival and reformation, and the whole world will be blessed, not just the United States of America.

00:15:44.000 That's the role he's given this nation.

00:15:47.000 So James, let's talk practically with the time we have remaining.

00:15:49.000 How do we defeat this?

00:15:51.000 There are people in our audience right now.

00:15:52.000 They're going to colleges and they have to be told men and women are basically the same.

00:15:56.000 I went to University of Texas, Austin.

00:15:58.000 I could play some of the clip, but we're not going to.

00:16:00.000 Where people were telling me that men can become pregnant.

00:16:03.000 People are paying for this. 0.62

00:16:04.000 They're going into debt for this.

00:16:06.000 They go to a church.

00:16:07.000 They send their kid to a local school.

00:16:08.000 It's happening in their school board.

00:16:10.000 They're giving their kids TikTok, which, by the way, if you love your child, you should make sure they never access TikTok.

00:16:16.000 There is no argument to have that poison.

00:16:22.000 And if your child has TikTok, they'll be more likely to commit suicide, have depression, anxiety, be on psychiatric medication, or become trans. 0.99

00:16:31.000 Correct?

00:16:32.000 Yeah, that's correct.

00:16:33.000 That's absolutely correct.

00:16:34.000 And that is all part and parcel.

00:16:36.000 All this trans stuff, just before we get to the practical, really, I know we're short on time, but I want to be very clear. 1.00

00:16:40.000 When I said Hermetic earlier, the goal in the Hermetic faith as an old ancient esoteric occult, whatever you want to call it, religion, is in fact to remember first that you are the third person of the Godhead, you are God, and that you are to ascend to the realm of the self-begotten.

00:16:56.000 What do you do when you transition?

00:16:58.000 You envision yourself as you think you were supposed to have been made until a doctor assigned your sex at birth.

00:17:03.000 And then what do you do?

00:17:04.000 You beget yourself until the spiritual transformation happens.

00:17:09.000 How does that happen?

00:17:10.000 By social construction.

00:17:11.000 Everybody accepts it.

00:17:13.000 Everybody's forced to call you whatever pronouns you make up.

00:17:16.000 Everybody's forced to call you by your new name.

00:17:20.000 They're forced to reify your new identity, your self-begotten identity.

00:17:24.000 So when I say this is a cult, I am not kidding.

00:17:26.000 I'm not exaggerating.

00:17:27.000 I'm not just being cheeky.

00:17:29.000 I can go deep on this.

00:17:31.000 How do we beat them, James?

00:17:32.000 We have to beat them by telling the truth about them.

00:17:32.000 How do we beat them?

00:17:36.000 It starts there.

00:17:38.000 It starts there.

00:17:39.000 We can't pussyfoot around.

00:17:40.000 We had Eric a moment ago talking about how we have all of this mistake.

00:17:44.000 We're not talking about it in terms of a fight between good and evil.

00:17:46.000 This is correct.

00:17:47.000 Marx tricked the world.

00:17:48.000 The devil tricks the world by making you think he doesn't exist.

00:17:51.000 What did Marx do?

00:17:52.000 He made what 150 years of every academic on earth believe that he didn't give us a poisoned theology.

00:18:00.000 He gave us an economic theory.

00:18:01.000 So let's talk about it in terms of economics. 0.99

00:18:03.000 When you talk about it in terms of economics, you miss the damn point and people go to hell. 0.99

00:18:08.000 It's that simple. 0.99

00:18:10.000 So you have to get clear.

00:18:11.000 You have to tell the truth.

00:18:13.000 And then you have to start getting local, legal, protect your kids, protect your kids, and then fight like hell to fix the schools.

00:18:23.000 That is number one.

00:18:26.000 We stop all this mess, these elections, this other stuff.

00:18:30.000 We fix all this mess.

00:18:32.000 And in five years, everybody going through these schools right now comes out broken, messed up, and does it again with even less ability to fight back.

00:18:41.000 We must save our schools.

00:18:43.000 So if you are a parent, get involved.

00:18:46.000 Get to know who's on your school board.

00:18:47.000 Get on your local school board.

00:18:49.000 Volunteer for committees.

00:18:51.000 Get into your kids' backpack and find out what their lessons are.

00:18:55.000 Try to argue that there needs to be less technology in schools.

00:18:58.000 It's not just TikTok.

00:18:59.000 They've got a Chromebook.

00:19:00.000 It's brainwashing them.

00:19:01.000 It's made to start doing that through nudging and AI friends and chat bots.

00:19:06.000 Go practice with your chat GPT.

00:19:08.000 Teach it how to brainwash kids better.

00:19:10.000 Isn't it fun?

00:19:11.000 He, he, he, it told a story.

00:19:12.000 Think about what you're doing before you do it.

00:19:14.000 These are utterly crucial things, but you must get involved locally.

00:19:18.000 You must, if you're in a church, take a stand and demand your pastor takes a stand or leave.

00:19:24.000 Find a better one.

00:19:25.000 Make a better one.

00:19:27.000 And the same thing has to be demanded in your secular community around you as well.

00:19:32.000 That's what you have to do to fix this.

00:19:34.000 And folks, just so you understand how bad things are in the church in America today, okay?

00:19:38.000 Now, I get invited to churches where the pastors are heroes, like whether it's Rob McCoy or Jack Hibbs.

00:19:45.000 There are a number of churches around this country where they have been heroic.

00:19:49.000 And by the way, when they speak about this kind of stuff, real people who normally don't go to church think, you know what?

00:19:56.000 I think I'll go to that church because they are dealing with what I'm dealing with in my life.

00:20:01.000 They're relevant.

00:20:01.000 They care about me and my problems.

00:20:04.000 And the churches that are afraid to talk about this because they're afraid they're going to lose somebody's tithe.

00:20:09.000 They're going to lose some people.

00:20:10.000 Those churches are struggling to stay open.

00:20:13.000 Praise the Lord.

00:20:14.000 That's called the free market.

00:20:15.000 But I want to say, if you want to know how bad things are, when I wrote my book letter to the American church, I submitted to the publisher.

00:20:22.000 That day I got a book in the mail from Zondervan, a Christian publisher.

00:20:26.000 The book was written by Charles Stanley, huge mega church pastor in Atlanta.

00:20:32.000 And the book effectively argued precisely the opposite of everything I say in my book, using scripture verses and misunderstanding of history and basically advocating that the church avoid the culture wars, avoid getting involved in these things.

00:20:48.000 Just stick to the gospel, you know, just like the Chinese communists want you to just stick to the gospel. 0.94

00:20:53.000 And I read the book because I felt obliged to understand how somebody could think this.

00:20:58.000 And it was a mess.

00:20:59.000 It's a horror.

00:21:00.000 I don't know, Andy Stanley, but here's where it gets very bad.

00:21:03.000 I went to the Amazon page.

00:21:05.000 There was a big, happy blurb from Jim Daly, the head of Focus on the Family.

00:21:12.000 And I want to say, if you've ever given money to Focus on the Family, you need to write a letter to Jim Daly and help him to understand he's a good man.

00:21:21.000 I will tell you, he's a good man.

00:21:23.000 He's getting this wrong.

00:21:24.000 There are many good men and women getting this wrong.

00:21:27.000 They need to understand that there will be consequences if you get this wrong.

00:21:32.000 And we need to understand it is that bad that someone that we would think of shares our values is saying, yeah, I'm all on board with silence in the face of evil.

00:21:41.000 Let's just stick to our little gospel.

00:21:43.000 That idea is fundamentally wrong.

00:21:45.000 It has led us to the horror where we find ourselves today.

00:21:49.000 And unless we repent, what happened in Germany in the 30s will be nothing compared to what will happen because of the silence of the American church.

00:22:03.000 It's so incredibly important that you get involved, that you do something, that you figure out what you can do, and you do it.

00:22:11.000 Protecting your kids, I just pleaded with you.

00:22:13.000 It's very, very, very key to this.

00:22:15.000 You must protect their minds.

00:22:17.000 You must raise them with truth.

00:22:20.000 You must raise them with courage.

00:22:22.000 But you also have to have that courage and you have to find that truth if you're going to do it.

00:22:27.000 You have to be able to cut through the BS.

00:22:29.000 There's good men and women all over this country who are like, yeah, but I don't know.

00:22:32.000 Maybe it's okay.

00:22:33.000 It's not okay.

00:22:34.000 It's not something we can go with part way.

00:22:37.000 This is among the greatest evils that's ever been visited upon humanity.

00:22:40.000 And if you don't understand that, then you don't understand what you're dealing with.

00:22:43.000 So you absolutely must be willing to stand for truth, which is good, and goodness, which is obviously good.

00:22:49.000 And you must stand for those things bravely.

00:22:51.000 It's like if you look back at C.S. Lewis, you look back at Narnia, right?

00:22:55.000 What does he say?

00:22:55.000 Is Aslan dangerous?

00:22:56.000 Oh, of course he's dangerous, but he's good.

00:22:58.000 That's what you have to be.

00:23:00.000 Dangerous, but good all the time.

00:23:04.000 I'm going to let Eric with the final word, which is a very dangerous thing.

00:23:08.000 But you see evil, you expose it.

00:23:11.000 You see a child that is being manipulated or indoctrinated, you stop it.

00:23:16.000 You don't allow it to continue.

00:23:18.000 Whether it be a grandkid, whether it be a neighbor, we need more people homeschooling.

00:23:23.000 We need more kids being mentored.

00:23:26.000 This room, I'll see the same, I'm going to keep on saying this.

00:23:29.000 This room can change the country.

00:23:31.000 If 11,000 people over the course of four days go back to 50 states and become super activists, run for school board, run for state legislature, start a new school, start a new church, pressure an elder board, start a social media channel, pray and fast for your nation, whatever it is.

00:23:47.000 Do a little, do a lot.

00:23:48.000 Maybe you have a lot of time, maybe you have no time, maybe a lot of money, maybe you have very little money.

00:23:52.000 It doesn't matter.

00:23:52.000 Do your part.

00:23:53.000 By the way, the scriptures are clear about this with the widow's might.

00:23:57.000 If you have a little and you give a lot, you'll be rewarded more than the person that has a lot and gives a little.

00:24:02.000 So, whatever you're able to do, do what you are called in that moment.

00:24:07.000 And you might say, Charlie, I've given everything I possibly can.

00:24:11.000 No, you haven't.

00:24:12.000 You can always do more.

00:24:13.000 And these evil people have entrenched in our society in a remarkable way.

00:24:18.000 Eric, final word.

00:24:20.000 I mentioned my book a few times.

00:24:22.000 It's called Letter to the American Church, but the original title of Letter to the American Church was Faith Without Works is Dead.

00:24:30.000 Because we have a lot of Christians in America who they talk about faith, And, you know, God says, Yeah, faith.

00:24:38.000 Is your faith real?

00:24:40.000 Because faith without works is dead.

00:24:43.000 If you are not living out your faith self-sacrificially, if you are behaving as though you're afraid of death, you're afraid of getting canceled.

00:24:52.000 God knows and the devil knows you don't believe what you claim to believe.

00:24:57.000 So the question is: we have a moment in history now, we get to live out our faith.

00:25:04.000 If you don't live out your faith, you're either calling God a liar or you are just pretending there's some safe third religious way.

00:25:13.000 I can just be quiet and do what I want to do.

00:25:17.000 God has given us a privilege, folks, that live in a moment in history right now where what you do matters.

00:25:24.000 And if you have very little money and you give a dollar, God will bless that dollar infinitely because we're talking about God and it's not about money.

00:25:32.000 It's about whatever you have.

00:25:34.000 You have a voice, you have power, you have freedom.

00:25:38.000 God has given you these things for His purposes in this generation.

00:25:43.000 If you don't use them for His purposes now, knowing that, by the way, you cannot out give God.

00:25:51.000 When you use what you have, yes, you'll be attacked.

00:25:55.000 Yet, listen, I have been sued.

00:25:57.000 I've been wiped off of YouTube.

00:25:58.000 You know, my answer to that is praise Jesus.

00:26:02.000 Praise Jesus.

00:26:03.000 Because how is it possible that we could be counted worthy to have these little things happen to us?

00:26:10.000 We know God has our back.

00:26:12.000 All He's looking for is people who actually believe what they claim to believe.

00:26:16.000 This is a season in American history.

00:26:19.000 We get to live out our faith.

00:26:21.000 The Lord is looking to His people to show that they believe what they claim to believe.

00:26:27.000 If they will do that, it will change this country and the world.

00:26:32.000 Praise the Lord.

00:26:33.000 God bless you.

00:26:35.000 So, Eric just told you to live your faith.

00:26:37.000 Let me assure you to bring you down here: the communist is living their faith.

00:26:43.000 The communists are living their faith better than you are, and that's why we're in this mess.

00:26:48.000 Thank you.

00:26:49.000 We're going to win if we act.

00:26:51.000 God bless you guys.

00:26:51.000 Thank you.

00:26:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:26:57.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:27:01.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:27:05.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 31, 2022

The Demons in American Life: A Panel Discussion with Eric Metaxas and James Lindsay LIVE from AmericaFest 2022

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