00:01:10.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:21.000Here's an example, which I think perfectly illustrates what you're talking about.
00:03:25.000I think it was 2018, President Trump issued an executive order barring the importation into the United States of electrical grid equipment from China.
00:03:34.000And he was worried about the hacking threat.
00:03:37.000So what did President Biden do on his very first day in office, even before he went to the inaugural balls?
00:03:44.000He went to the Oval Office and he signed an executive order that repealed President Trump's ban.
00:03:51.000Now, I don't know what's going on there.
00:03:54.000I can only come up with sort of sinister explanations for it.
00:03:58.000But the point is that Biden has left our grid open to Chinese hacking.
00:04:04.000And there was no protections put in place when Biden did this.
00:04:08.000Yeah, it just the, I suppose, the retribution that needs to happen, I just, what would it look like?
00:04:18.000First of all, what we need to do is impose costs on China, Iran, Russia when they hack our infrastructure.
00:04:27.000And those costs can be hacking back, but I don't want to really disclose our capabilities because we need those at a time of war.
00:04:36.000But we can impose economic costs on China, which are heavy, and which means that we've got to make sure that the costs that we impose are greater than the benefits that China receives.
00:04:48.000So for instance, China hacked the Office of Personnel Management and obtained records of millions, I think it was millions, at least hundreds of thousands of federal employees.
00:04:59.000And really you can't actually translate that into an economic cost.
00:05:05.000But what we need to say to China is we're putting tariffs, you know, thousand percent tariffs on the goods that you want to send to the United States, and which basically is going to be very hard for you to sell elsewhere.
00:05:34.000And the reason is China has a different conception of war.
00:05:37.000When we think of war, we think of militaries clashing.
00:05:42.000But China has this doctrine of unrestricted warfare.
00:05:45.000That comes from the title of a 1999 book by then two Chinese Air Force colonels who basically say anything can be done to the United States to destroy it.
00:06:17.000And last year, according to preliminary CDC numbers, 70,000 Americans died from doses of illegal fentanyl.
00:06:25.000And almost all that illegal fentanyl came from China.
00:06:28.000So that's really an intention to kill Americans as part of this unrestricted warfare campaign.
00:06:35.000So what I don't think most Americans are willing to acknowledge is that we are up against an enemy of the Chinese Communist Party that has ambitions and goals.
00:07:10.000He's been cycling those themes from the Chinese imperial era, where Chinese emperors believed that they not only had the mandate of heaven to rule Tianxia, but that heaven actually compelled them to do so.
00:07:50.000Yes, there's a lot of propaganda which says, oh, you know, we need everybody to get along and everyone should be treated equal.
00:07:56.000But when you look at their writings and you look at the themes that they use in their public speeches, it's clear that they have gone back to this notion of all under heaven.
00:08:05.000And by the way, Charlie, this is not domination.
00:08:29.000The Communist Party officially has this doctrine of Han nationalism.
00:08:33.000Han is one of the 56 ethnic groups, comprises about 92% of the Chinese population, which justifies, for instance, what they're doing to the Uyghurs and the Kazakhs and the other Turkic minorities.
00:08:48.000There is a reported secret speech of the then Chinese defense minister, Chur Hao Teng, from the first couple years of this century, which talks about the use of disease to exterminate Americans because China needed the land for themselves.
00:09:06.000And General Chur, who was defense minister, said, well, maybe we'll leave some Americans to be as slaves.
00:09:13.000And people question whether this speech actually occurred.
00:09:19.000But one thing we know, Charlie, and that is in China's tightly controlled media, the topic of extermination of Americans is permitted.
00:09:29.000So that shows you that is an indication that General Chur actually gave that speech.
00:09:36.000Do you think your average, if you were just to kind of do a blind lottery, your average politician in DC grasps the goals, the aims, the ambitions, and the nastiness of the Chinese Communist Party?
00:10:03.000You know, I think Chairman Mike Gallagher of the CCP committee in the House, he probably gets it.
00:10:09.000There are a few who do, but very, very few do.
00:10:14.000And the problem is across the political spectrum, you have conservative Republicans and Marxist Democrats actually propagate Chinese Communist Party propaganda.
00:10:26.000They don't intentionally do it, but they support the party's goals when you look at their positions.
00:10:31.000So yeah, it's a disease across the political spectrum, across the parties.
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00:12:37.000I mean, I would imagine in a totalitarian, centrally planned country that's trying to take over the world that you just don't magically have tens of thousands of young, kind of fertile men that go across the southern border of the country you're trying to destabilize.
00:12:51.000Are they being sent by the Chinese Communist Party?
00:12:56.000When we go back a year or so ago, there was a surge of Chinese migrants and we saw families coming across.
00:13:02.000And those, I think, were people who are desperate, who basically gave up on China.
00:13:07.000Recently, we're just seeing young men, military age, coming in packs of 5 to 15, no family members with them, pretending not to speak English.
00:13:19.000And U.S. Border Patrol actually knows some of them have links to the Chinese military.
00:13:27.000And Charlie, remember that lab in Readley, California that authorities found, that secret Chinese biological weapons facility?
00:13:34.000Well, it had at least 20 pathogens, including things like Ebola, and had almost 1,000 mice that had been genetically engineered to spread disease.
00:13:44.000So we got to be extremely concerned that some of those males coming across were meant to go to facilities like the one in Readley, and I can't believe Readley's the only one, and take some of those mice and spread them around the United States.
00:13:57.000So yes, all the indications are some of those are saboteurs.
00:14:03.000Yeah, and so I just, from a Chinese perspective, Gordon, can you tell me what they think about us?
00:14:11.000I mean, they must think we're some sort of joke at this point, that how easy this is to weaken us.
00:14:25.000And we know this, from instance, what's going on in the South China Sea, where the Chinese are just ignoring written and oral warnings that the United States is willing to use force against belligerent Chinese activities.
00:14:39.000So we know deterrence is breaking down.
00:14:41.000I think that they look at the Biden administration and believe they can do what they want.
00:14:45.000You know, before after Biden was elected, but before he took office on November 28, 2020, there was a live stream lecture by a guy named Didong Sheng, a prominent academic in China.
00:14:58.000And he was talking about the relations that Beijing was expecting with the new Biden team in the White House.
00:15:05.000And they were saying they basically they were going to do what they wanted after Biden took office.
00:15:09.000And by the way, the biggest laugh that he got was when he mentioned two words in English, Hunter Biden.
00:15:19.000So that shows you the mentality of the Chinese leaders right now.
00:15:22.000So what can be done if, let's say, Trump becomes president to fight back against this soft, slow-motion war?
00:15:54.000There's a lot of things that we can do, but I'd hit their economy first.
00:15:58.000And the problem, though, Gordon, every time we try to hit their economy, there's a small subset of people that are invested in capital flows in the West and tech companies that don't like that.
00:16:10.000They don't, but you know, on the other hand, Xi Jinping has been pushing American companies out of China.
00:16:16.000So he's been doing our job for us, but we need to accelerate that process.
00:16:21.000And that's what President Trump did when he was in office.
00:16:24.000And Biden has been dog whistling the opposite.
00:16:27.000So that's wrong on the part of the current president.
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00:18:13.000Well, joining us is Gabriel Shipton from Australia, producer of a movie Ithaca, and also the brother of Julian Assange.
00:18:20.000Gabriel, thank you so much for taking time to join us.
00:18:23.000Please just educate our audience on the situation regarding your brother.
00:18:28.000And also for our younger listeners that haven't lived through this 11-year story, walk through the facts here and what your brother is accused of.
00:18:37.000Well, Julian, back in 2010, published, well, you know, if you go back to 2006, when he started what was a website called Wikidata, it was a website for leaks that collaborated with publishers and published, published leaked material.
00:19:01.000They published all sorts of things, you know, leaked material from Syria, from Russia, from China, and from the U.S.
00:19:08.000But they really came to the forefront in 2010 when they started publishing information about the Iraq war, about Guantanamo Bay, the detainees of Guantanamo Bay.
00:19:22.000All this information was related to leaks from Chelsea Manning, who was a military analyst.
00:19:31.000And it was after publishing that information that Julian started to be pursued.
00:19:39.000And that information really, I think, you know, changed the game in terms of what was happening in the Iraq war.
00:19:48.000It sort of exposed what was going on on the ground, a war that everybody was told that was going extremely well and a very successful war, but the reality was the complete opposite.
00:20:00.000So that information led to essentially to the end of the end of the Iraq war or end of troops being present in Iraq.
00:20:11.000And it was since that time that Julian began to be pursued.
00:20:15.000You know, first he took refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he spent seven years inside that embassy.
00:20:25.000And in 2019, he was from that embassy, arrested, and has spent the last four and a half years in a maximum security prison outside of London, fighting extradition to the United States, where he's charged under the Espionage Act.
00:20:44.000And now this Espionage Act prosecution is the first of its kind.
00:20:50.000The first Espionage Act has been used against a publisher, against a website for publishing leaked information.
00:21:00.000So, you know, Chelsea Manning, who leaked the information that Julian is charged with publishing, she was sentenced to 35 years under the Espionage Act and had her sentence commuted by Barack Obama in 2017.
00:21:16.000So she's been free since 2017 while Julian has still been languishing in prison.
00:21:24.000But since those publishing that information in 2010, WikiLeaks also published lots of information during the 2016 election.
00:21:34.000They published troves of the DNC emails, the Podesta emails, Hillary Clinton's private emails as well, that really showed the corruption inside the Democratic National Committee and how the Hillary Clinton campaign was conspiring against Bernie Sanders to win the Democratic nomination.
00:21:59.000And so that drew the ire of Democrats when WikiLeaks published that information in 2016, because a lot of them don't like to, you know, they don't accept that Hillary Clinton failed in that election and they like to blame other people.
00:22:14.000And Julian is one of the scapegoats for that election loss for the Democrats.
00:22:21.000In 2017, WikiLeaks went on to publish a Vault 7 leaks.
00:22:27.000Now, those leaks were the CIA hacking tools and how the CIA had developed these hacking tools to hack into phones, to hack into televisions and turn those phones, televisions into spying devices.
00:22:45.000You know, what Snowden exposed in 2014 with the NSA and how they were spying on millions of Americans, Julian and Wikileaks exposed similar efforts from within the CIA, that the CIA was actually doing very, very, very similar things and spying on Americans, spying on world leaders as the NSA had been exposed for doing back with the Snowden leaks.
00:23:13.000And it was really around that time, that 2017 time, when Mike Pompeo was the head of the CIA director, and he really made it his personal personal vendetta really against Julian for publishing that information for embarrassing and embarrassing Mike Pompeo while he was the head of CIA.
00:23:34.000And so in his first speech, he declared Wikileaks a non-state hostile intelligence service and said that they were going to use the full power of the tools available to them to pursue WikiLeaks.
00:23:47.000And that's when this current indictment started to be worked on and really when things ramped up in the pursuit of Julian Assange.
00:23:59.000And it was during that time that Julian was in the embassy between 2017 and 2019 when he was taken that it was revealed in these leaked documents and leaked information that the CIA had been clandestinely spying on Julian while he was in the embassy,
00:24:18.000taking video recordings of his meetings with his lawyers and doctors, and that there were even plans from within the CIO, plans from within the CIA to actually assassinate while he was in the embassy.
00:24:34.000And that was revealed in a huge Yahoo News investigation that was published in 2021, the end of 2021, that quoted all these sources from the intelligence community, current and former sources, who confirmed that Mike Pompeo had been planning to murder Julian Assange.
00:25:13.000And is there any instances, a single instance that somebody's life was put in jeopardy or that, let's just say, extreme national security was put at risk because of his journalism?
00:25:25.000Well, there's been many investigations about lives being put at risk or lives in jeopardy or anyone coming to harm from this leaked information.
00:25:38.000And if you go back to Chelsea Manning's trial, the Obama administration hired an ex-general to actually look into this and try and find somebody who'd been harmed by these leaks.
00:25:51.000And they spent $10 million investigating and searching for anyone who'd come to any harm in relation to Chelsea Manning's leaks.
00:26:02.000And so that was revealed in those court proceedings.
00:26:06.000And also, Julian's prosecutors in London, the prosecutors who are working for the DOJ, have also admitted that they cannot find anybody who's come to harm in relation to these leaks.
00:26:23.000These leaks have led to increased transparency about what the military industrial complex in these wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and really putting service people and service members in harm's way for their own benefit.
00:26:41.000And so that has been revealed in these leaks and as a result has meant that less soldiers and less service people have been sent to these dangerous war zones.
00:26:52.000So I would argue that Julian's work and Chelsea Manning's leaks have actually saved lives rather than put them in harm's way.
00:27:02.000And you say, is what Julian did normal journalism or just what journalists do every day?
00:27:10.000I think, Charlie, it's what we expect we as citizens or what Americans expect journalists to do is tell the truth, reveal government corruption and shine a light on these dark places.
00:27:27.000I think that is exactly what Julian did.
00:27:33.000What you and I understand as journalism, what the average person on the street understands as journalism.
00:27:41.000And what Julian did by doing that was embarrass these legacy media institutions like the New York Times, like the Washington Post, who were complicit in selling the Iraq war, this great lie that they pushed forward, the weapons of mass destruction lie that they pushed forward in selling.
00:28:02.000Uh, selling the Iraq war to the American public uh, Julian exposed them as well uh, for what they, what they were doing and what they were up to, which was essentially lying to us all uh, and convincing us that uh, these uh wrong policies uh, were the right way to go.
00:28:20.000So I think you know it is what Julian did is the essence of journalism um and, and what these other legacy media uh uh, corporations and things are up to is is anything.
00:28:34.000Yeah, I mean, the more I learn about it, the more sympathetic I am to Julian's cause, and to see how they've tried to torture him in this insane process over 11 years is so unacceptable to Western traditions of due process and the rule of law and the equal application of justice.
00:28:53.000I mean, it feels like they're they're torturing him the way that they are because of who he exposed, not because of what he did.
00:29:04.000I think there is this very vindictive elements uh, you know, who have been pursuing Julian for for many, many years and who would actually like to see him uh, like to see him dead, in fact, and and I think that example that has been set now is that, if you do this, if you, if you publish this information about us, about what we get up to behind closed doors, that this will happen to you as well, and that's a very clear uh message that is heard heard around the world.
00:29:32.000You know, if you do this uh, look exactly what's happening to Julian Assange it could happen to you too.
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00:32:32.000Gabriel, there's a fair amount of chatter, and there has been over the last couple of years around the connection with WikiLeaks and Seth Rich.
00:32:42.000I want to play cut 36 and dive into this with you.
00:32:49.000Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often very significant risks.
00:32:54.000There's a 27-year-old that works for the DNC who was shot in the back, murdered, just two weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.
00:33:06.000So that was just a robbery, I believe, wasn't it?
00:33:31.000Well, you know, I think it's a very, you know, I think that story and that whole leak, that period in 2016, those leaks around the DNC, around Hillary Clinton and her campaign, those leaks really upset a lot of people and really put some very powerful people,
00:33:59.000powerful forces under the microscope and exposed exactly what they got up to, you know, in terms of, you know, essentially taking over the Democratic National Committee, using it for their own personal gain, rigging the system, rigging the nomination system with inside the committee.
00:34:22.000And there was actually physical, you know, we hear these days, oh, it's happening.
00:34:28.000You know, we under sort of understand that, you know, Biden's not allowing debates or they're not having debates with Democratic candidates.
00:34:36.000It was actual physical proof, physical emails from inside the Democratic National Committee that just laid it all out.
00:34:48.000You know, we're going to attack Bernie Sanders with these tropes, you know, the Bernie boys and all these sorts of things and push President Trump forward, push Trump forward as a Piper candidate.
00:35:03.000You know, the DNC actually thought that Hillary would perform better against Donald Trump.
00:35:09.000And so they started promoting Donald Trump and look exactly where that got them.
00:35:15.000And I think exposing those forces for what they are is very dangerous.
00:35:24.000And it is exactly why Julian Assange is in prison.
00:35:28.000It's exactly why people like Chelsea Manning served seven years in prison.
00:35:34.000I don't want to comment on any sources.
00:35:39.000As Julian was saying, sources take great risks.
00:36:47.000He's, you know, we're not able to see him where we're in Australia.
00:36:51.000He has two small children who go and visit him in the prison.
00:36:56.000You know, that is our normal life now is Julian being incarcerated or locked up one way or another.
00:37:05.000We're all focused on fighting for Julian, supporting him, keeping him alive while he's in prison, as well as advocating for him around the world.
00:37:34.000That will keep you updated with all the actions that are going on around the United States.
00:37:39.000There are Assange groups in all major cities, even some smaller cities all around the United States that you can join and get involved in.
00:37:49.000I've traveled to many of these places.
00:37:51.000I did 60 or so events all around the United States earlier in this year and met some really great people all from Nebraska down to Oklahoma, Missouri, everywhere across the U.S. There are locations where there are groups of Assange supporters.
00:38:09.000So yeah, join a group, get signed up to the mailing list, AssangeDefense.org.
00:38:15.000Those are a couple of things that you can get started with.
00:38:26.000I'm always encouraging people to get involved in the democratic process.
00:38:30.000It's not enough just to vote once every four years.
00:38:34.000You can lobby your representative as well, your congressperson especially, ring them up, go to see them at their office, bring up this case, bring up Julian's case.
00:38:46.000It's not only Julian Assange that this is about.
00:38:49.000This is actually a threat to the First Amendment.
00:38:51.000This is creating this walled garden around the First Amendment, around your right to know what your government does in your name.
00:38:59.000And I think taking those concerns to your elected representative is essential as well.