The Charlie Kirk Show - September 28, 2023


The GOP's Dreadful Second Debate


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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody. 0.86
00:00:00.000 What a circus clown show. 0.86
00:00:03.000 We recap the Republican debate and also talk about Gavin Newsom.
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00:00:21.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:22.000 Here we go.
00:00:23.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:25.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
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00:01:05.000 I did not watch the debate.
00:01:07.000 I watched like three to five minutes.
00:01:10.000 What a circus.
00:01:12.000 We're going to go through today some very tough feedback for the Republican Party. 1.00
00:01:20.000 I don't know what's going on, but the old joke is that the Republican Party is the stupid party and the Democrats are the evil party. 1.00
00:01:27.000 They're still evil. 1.00
00:01:29.000 But this is a complete clown show. 0.94
00:01:31.000 Not just what happened at the debate, and we're going to do our best to unpack it, which was just the absolute mess. 0.91
00:01:40.000 Not just the mess and just how the debate itself was conducted, but also a mess between the candidates talking over one another and their pre-rehearsed lines.
00:01:50.000 Completely irrelevant, a lot of the stuff they're talking about.
00:01:53.000 But also, we have this 9.30 funding looming deadline where you have this weaponized administrative state.
00:02:00.000 And you can't get anyone to agree on anything.
00:02:03.000 On top of that, you have these impeachment hearings.
00:02:05.000 And the witnesses that the Republicans are calling in front of the impeachment hearings are undermining the Republicans' effort to impeach Joe Biden.
00:02:14.000 And so we have to go through this piece by piece.
00:02:17.000 The Republican Party is not a serious party, but we're going to play some of this piece of tape.
00:02:21.000 And it's absolute chaos.
00:02:22.000 And I'm just going to continue to ask this question.
00:02:24.000 Okay, all of these kind of corporate-funded candidates, they got their time on television previously and now.
00:02:31.000 How many ballot chasers?
00:02:34.000 How many voter registration workers?
00:02:38.000 How many people to secure our elections were we able to hire in the last two hours or the last two days, 48 hours?
00:02:45.000 How many people?
00:02:46.000 Here's just a little taste.
00:02:47.000 I'm curious, how many of you actually watched the debate?
00:02:50.000 I want to hear from you throughout the hour.
00:02:51.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:02:53.000 Play cut 142.
00:02:56.000 This is just a taste, a micron of the Chinese fire drill that otherwise could be called a Republican debate.
00:03:03.000 Play cut 142.
00:03:04.000 We're sitting here in the Reagan library.
00:03:06.000 Yes, I wish you could.
00:03:07.000 You'd be an honor of Ronald Reagan's library.
00:03:09.000 If I may, Tim, from one admirer of Ronald Reagan to another.
00:03:13.000 From one admirer of Reagan to another.
00:03:15.000 We cannot do fire officers.
00:03:17.000 This isn't productive.
00:03:18.000 I want to hear somebody.
00:03:20.000 Let's have a policy debate.
00:03:21.000 What's going on?
00:03:22.000 Let us have policies actually matter. 0.99
00:03:25.000 Let's have out their record.
00:03:26.000 Let's have a policy debate.
00:03:27.000 And the right answer is we need to declare independence from China. 0.99
00:03:31.000 Thank you, man.
00:03:33.000 You know what that is?
00:03:34.000 That's what happens.
00:03:34.000 We don't have an alpha male on stage.
00:03:36.000 You got a bunch of betas. 0.99
00:03:38.000 And they're all just trying to pretend to joust for dominance.
00:03:42.000 You have Donald Trump come?
00:03:44.000 Woof.
00:03:45.000 That would be a lot different debate.
00:03:47.000 And also, it's just lack of respect. 0.98
00:03:49.000 And the moderators were unable to establish dominance.
00:03:53.000 And no one wants to watch that.
00:03:57.000 By the way, I could play clip after clip after clip after clip.
00:04:02.000 And almost zero mention of, hey, by the way, we have this unconstitutional Jack Smith guy that's trying to put the leader of our party in prison.
00:04:13.000 Hey, we have an invasion.
00:04:14.000 They mentioned the border a little bit, but they're not actually serious about it.
00:04:18.000 They're like, oh, you know, we have to secure the border.
00:04:21.000 Okay, how about declaring an invasion?
00:04:24.000 How are you going to go after the deep state?
00:04:27.000 What is the big picture here?
00:04:28.000 They don't want to talk about that.
00:04:29.000 You know why?
00:04:30.000 Because everybody on that stage, except Vivek, I will exempt him from that.
00:04:34.000 They're cheering for Donald Trump to be disqualified.
00:04:38.000 The whole reason they're on stage, because you might say, Charlie, they think they have no chance.
00:04:43.000 Yes, they think they have no chance unless Donald Trump goes to federal prison and is disqualified through the 14th Amendment.
00:04:52.000 The people on that stage, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Chris Christie, their plan is the David French plan of disqualifying Donald Trump to put him on the ballot.
00:05:05.000 That is their plan.
00:05:06.000 They know they can't beat him by normal means.
00:05:10.000 And some people say, well, that was a vice presidential debate.
00:05:12.000 No, it wasn't.
00:05:13.000 That was at best like a Secretary of Commerce debate or like the Secretary of Interior, maybe on a good day.
00:05:21.000 This is not a serious thing that we have going on here at all.
00:05:25.000 The question that I ask is, did the Democrats get closer to sneaking out another victory I put in air quotes in November of 2024?
00:05:38.000 Of course they did.
00:05:39.000 They want to see this kind of mess of people that will not be president just go after one another in a complete fury, in unintelligible fury.
00:05:50.000 I mean, here's just another example.
00:05:52.000 You have Nikki Haley, who's at like 3%, and Tim Scott, who still acts as if it's 1987 and it's morning in America.
00:05:58.000 Someone's got to just like pour cold water on this guy.
00:06:00.000 Like, hey, Tim Scott, wake up.
00:06:02.000 It's not morning in America, pal.
00:06:04.000 I know you're at the Ronald Reagan library.
00:06:06.000 I know that, you know, you're really sweet, all that good stuff.
00:06:08.000 Great.
00:06:08.000 Hey, we're at war, okay?
00:06:11.000 It's a cold civil war against the Marxists.
00:06:13.000 Whoa, I believe our best days are ahead.
00:06:14.000 Yeah, yeah, I got that.
00:06:15.000 Okay.
00:06:16.000 You got to get that like soundbite chamber of commerce programming out of it. 1.00
00:06:21.000 Here's Nikki Haley, who's just like yearning to go invade another sovereign country. 0.99
00:06:26.000 It's like a mixture of Billy Crystal and Lady Graham. 0.55
00:06:28.000 Boom. 0.99
00:06:29.000 You got Nikki Haley.
00:06:30.000 Play Cup 150.
00:06:32.000 I think, look, I appreciate Tim.
00:06:34.000 We've known each other a long time, but he's been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that.
00:06:39.000 He hasn't, they've only given four budgets on time in 40 years to get a lot of people.
00:06:44.000 He increased the national debt.
00:06:46.000 He voted for the spending.
00:06:48.000 You voted for the business.
00:06:48.000 He has made sure that the Border Trump is a lot of people who are in the world.
00:06:53.000 12 years.
00:06:54.000 Where have you been?
00:06:56.000 I voted no.
00:06:57.000 I voted almost.
00:06:58.000 We've waited.
00:06:59.000 Nothing has happened.
00:07:00.000 Here's what you've done.
00:07:01.000 Here's the thing that I both find interesting.
00:07:05.000 All these guys have said that.
00:07:06.000 Here's the fact.
00:07:06.000 And I appreciate a lot of the things they're saying.
00:07:08.000 Nikki's.
00:07:09.000 You're the only one up here who's gotten in the big fights and has delivered big victories for the people of Florida.
00:07:15.000 And that's what it's all about.
00:07:17.000 Okay.
00:07:18.000 When will anyone on that stage ever realize that Republican voters are not voting necessarily on every piece of legislation that you may or may not have passed?
00:07:30.000 They don't trust many of you on stage.
00:07:33.000 They don't trust you.
00:07:34.000 The Republican Party is in a low, permanently in a low trust environment.
00:07:40.000 They've seen a duly elected president, Donald Trump, be spied on, have his lieutenants, like Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, entrapped by the FBI, twice impeached, and have a 2020 election that was a drive-by shooting of the U.S. Constitution.
00:07:55.000 And they're here talking about, like, well, I got some sort of tax bill passed.
00:07:59.000 You know, again, I did not watch the entire debate.
00:08:02.000 I couldn't.
00:08:03.000 I watched for five minutes. 1.00
00:08:04.000 Got this woman speaking Spanish. 0.98
00:08:05.000 Like, speak English. 1.00
00:08:06.000 Give me a break.
00:08:07.000 What is this?
00:08:08.000 Oh, Univision?
00:08:09.000 Literally.
00:08:10.000 I'm going to talk about that in a second. 0.99
00:08:11.000 It's pathetic. 0.98
00:08:13.000 And like three minutes, you have these like rehearsed things. 0.98
00:08:18.000 And I felt like I was watching a 2006 Republican primary debate.
00:08:22.000 As if they're not transing our kids. 1.00
00:08:24.000 We have the gayest generation history, the most suicidal generation history. 1.00
00:08:28.000 We got parents being spied on by the FBI.
00:08:30.000 We got this administrative state that's running the country.
00:08:33.000 And we have happy talk about tax cuts.
00:08:37.000 And you have to wonder, are they ever going to take the cue?
00:08:41.000 And they don't.
00:08:42.000 They won't.
00:08:43.000 The Ukraine thing is interesting.
00:08:45.000 We'll talk about that.
00:08:46.000 Donald Trump has now come out and he has called for a cancellation of all future primary debates so that we could focus our efforts on Biden.
00:08:53.000 And I will say that.
00:08:54.000 All of the, I'll say it again, all of this money that we're spending, $150 million with DeSantis, combined on stage, hundreds of millions of dollars, that money should be invested in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia for ballot chasing, voter registration, and the boring stuff.
00:09:09.000 That's where Democrats are spending their money right now.
00:09:12.000 We're spending our money on Nikki Haley-Tim Scott feuds.
00:09:16.000 And just so we're clear, though, a lot of donors are waking up.
00:09:19.000 I was, I would, boy, I got, I had the event with Dennis Prager last night, and I must have received 30 text messages from major donors, a couple billionaires, that are like, what in the fresh level of hell was that?
00:09:31.000 I was like, yeah, I'm trying to tell you people that said, we're done.
00:09:35.000 We are going to go invest. 0.97
00:09:36.000 I hate Trump. 0.81
00:09:36.000 Some of them are like, I hate Trump, but I hate Biden more. 0.81
00:09:38.000 It's like, you know what?
00:09:39.000 God bless you.
00:09:39.000 I respect that.
00:09:41.000 There should be a bumper sticker in Aspen.
00:09:44.000 I hate Trump, but I hate Biden more.
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00:10:50.000 I don't want to spend too much time on this, but this just bothered me, okay?
00:10:53.000 English should be the official language of the United States.
00:10:56.000 And the argument is, well, Charlie, we have to reach out to new voters.
00:10:58.000 Speak English.
00:11:00.000 Okay.
00:11:00.000 I don't want to live in a country where I can't understand my fellow countrymen.
00:11:04.000 Assimilation is necessary for a free society and a strong society.
00:11:10.000 This is how we started.
00:11:11.000 I mean, really?
00:11:11.000 Play cut 148.
00:11:13.000 Please allow me to welcome our Spanish-speaking audience.
00:11:28.000 I don't like that.
00:11:29.000 I don't like it.
00:11:30.000 Immigrants from across the world have come to this country and they will tell you they had to learn English.
00:11:37.000 What that is basically saying is, yeah, we're perfectly fine with you not assimilating and learning the native language here.
00:11:42.000 It creates a nation of strangers, a nation of foreigners in America. 0.99
00:11:47.000 I don't like it.
00:11:48.000 All right, so let's play another piece of tape here.
00:11:51.000 This is, this is such a joke, honestly.
00:11:54.000 Let's play cut 136.
00:11:56.000 It's now obvious that if you all stay in the race, former President Donald Trump wins the nomination.
00:12:04.000 None of you have indicated that you're dropping out.
00:12:07.000 So, which one of you on stage tonight should be voted off the island?
00:12:14.000 Please use your marker to write your choice on the notepad in front of you.
00:12:19.000 15 seconds starting out of the people on the stage.
00:12:22.000 Are you serious who should be absolutely serious?
00:12:25.000 With all due respect, I mean, we're here.
00:12:26.000 Like, we're happy to debate on that.
00:12:28.000 I think that that's disrespectful to my fellow context.
00:12:31.000 Nobody wants to participate.
00:12:37.000 Honestly, that was Ron DeSantis as one of his best moments.
00:12:39.000 Good for him. 0.99
00:12:39.000 I mean, standing up, that's such a pathetic thing. 0.99
00:12:41.000 What is this? 0.99
00:12:42.000 A game show?
00:12:44.000 I mean, this is like made-for-TV entertainment.
00:12:48.000 And the constant talking over one another was unbearable.
00:12:51.000 Unbearable.
00:12:54.000 At some point, you have to just say, time out.
00:12:57.000 We're done.
00:12:59.000 We're done.
00:13:00.000 You guys have had your chance.
00:13:01.000 We are so significantly disadvantaged right now in the early states.
00:13:07.000 Significantly.
00:13:10.000 Ballot chasing, voter registration.
00:13:13.000 And we have this, not even a sideshow for a presidential debate.
00:13:18.000 How about this one?
00:13:19.000 Let's go to just cut 145.
00:13:22.000 I could go one after the other.
00:13:23.000 Play cut 145.
00:13:27.000 The next question is for Benjamin December.
00:13:30.000 We want to get Raylanding.
00:13:32.000 Here's how we get it done in Washington, Ball.
00:13:34.000 We must find it.
00:13:35.000 Can we please respect the time?
00:13:37.000 Yeah.
00:13:38.000 No, let's play that again.
00:13:39.000 This is your Republican Party without Trump.
00:13:43.000 The next question is for Benjamin December.
00:13:47.000 We want to get Ravier McGillivie.
00:13:49.000 Here's how we get it done in Washington, Ball.
00:13:50.000 We must find it.
00:13:54.000 With some exceptions, I'll put DeSantis and Vivek out. 0.98
00:13:57.000 You just got a bunch of narcissists talking over one another that just want their five minutes on TV.
00:14:03.000 This is your Republican Party without Trump.
00:14:06.000 It's like complete bedlam.
00:14:10.000 Complete bedlam.
00:14:11.000 Oh, and Chris Christie, you really got a zinger in there.
00:14:13.000 Play cut 143.
00:14:15.000 And I want to look at that camera right now and tell you, Donald, I know you're watching.
00:14:18.000 You can't help yourself.
00:14:20.000 I know you're watching, okay?
00:14:22.000 And you're not here tonight, not because of polls and not because of your indictments.
00:14:27.000 You're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on the stage and defending your record.
00:14:32.000 You're ducking these things.
00:14:34.000 And let me tell you what's going to happen.
00:14:35.000 You keep doing that.
00:14:36.000 No one up here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore.
00:14:38.000 We're going to call you Donald Duck.
00:14:40.000 All right.
00:14:41.000 I want to ask Governor.
00:14:43.000 Hilarious.
00:14:44.000 That was so funny.
00:14:46.000 I forgot to laugh.
00:14:48.000 It's just one moment after the other.
00:14:52.000 You should see our chat.
00:14:53.000 I'm not going to say that.
00:14:55.000 I'm not going to say that.
00:14:58.000 Here's another one.
00:14:59.000 They all decided to attack Vivek.
00:15:01.000 I like Vivek.
00:15:02.000 Play Cut 142.
00:15:04.000 We're sitting here in the Reagan library.
00:15:06.000 Yes, I wish you had to be a good player.
00:15:07.000 In honor of Ronald Reagan's library, if I may, from one admirer of Ronald Reagan to another.
00:15:13.000 From one admirer of Reagan to another.
00:15:15.000 We cannot do five officers.
00:15:17.000 This isn't productive.
00:15:18.000 I want to hear.
00:15:20.000 Let's have a policy debate.
00:15:21.000 What's going on?
00:15:22.000 Let us have the policy matter.
00:15:25.000 Let's have out their records.
00:15:26.000 Let's have a policy debate.
00:15:27.000 And the right answer is that we're going to be able to do declare independence from China. 0.89
00:15:31.000 I think you guys will see that through.
00:15:33.000 Look, I've met Dana a couple times.
00:15:35.000 I really like Stu Varney.
00:15:36.000 Stu has been very, very good to me over the last decade.
00:15:39.000 Very good.
00:15:40.000 I'm 100% a fan of Stu, and I will always be in his debt.
00:15:43.000 I mean that.
00:15:45.000 But the moderators should have established dominance here. 0.87
00:15:48.000 They should have slammed it down and said, you guys are acting like a bunch of petulant kids. 0.96
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00:16:54.000 So Gavin Newsom, he very well might be the, remember we call him?
00:16:58.000 He's warming up in the bullpen right now, throwing strikes while Joe Biden is withering away.
00:17:04.000 Joe Biden right now, again, it's baseball season, but as I said, I don't watch baseball. 0.97
00:17:09.000 They went super gay. 0.99
00:17:10.000 I might watch the Cubs in the playoffs. 0.96
00:17:13.000 We'll see.
00:17:13.000 If they make the playoffs, I think it's actually closing up in the next, this weekend, I think, is the final weekend, right?
00:17:19.000 So Gavin Newsom is in the bullpen.
00:17:22.000 Joe Biden basically is bases loaded, no outs.
00:17:26.000 He's on a last, last issue, like last, last chance here.
00:17:31.000 Here's Gavin Newsom taunting Ron DeSantis, Play Cut 162.
00:17:36.000 The fact that he took this debate, the fact that he took the bait in relation to this debate, shows that he's completely unqualified to be president of the United States.
00:17:46.000 That's my humble first.
00:17:47.000 Why is that?
00:17:47.000 You're baiting him with the debate offer?
00:17:48.000 Of course.
00:17:49.000 I mean, why is he debating a guy who's not even running for president when he's running for president?
00:17:52.000 He's showing up at the Reagan Library, hollow ground, and he puts on an ad today, not for his presidential campaign, to promote a debate against the governor of California.
00:18:02.000 I mean, this guy's distracted.
00:18:04.000 So I don't know that he has it in his heart.
00:18:06.000 I think, here's my personal opinion about Ron DeSantis: he regrets running for president.
00:18:11.000 He made a huge mistake.
00:18:13.000 He listened to his consultants.
00:18:14.000 He bought his own hype.
00:18:16.000 He had this little God complex.
00:18:18.000 I mean, look at the ads themselves.
00:18:20.000 Literally, God created.
00:18:21.000 I mean, he bought into all this stuff and he quickly regretted it, but he stuck.
00:18:26.000 Man, Newsom is Luciferian, isn't he? 0.97
00:18:28.000 This guy is a slippery, slippery snake. 0.97
00:18:32.000 I would much rather run against Joe Biden than Gavin Newsom. 0.89
00:18:36.000 Be careful what you wish for.
00:18:38.000 Newsom, and by the way, a lot of these, you know, let's just say the suburban wine moms, the kind of Xanax addicted crowd, they love Gavin.
00:18:49.000 They love him.
00:18:50.000 Be my husband.
00:18:51.000 I love you.
00:18:52.000 Save us with your social leftism. 1.00
00:18:54.000 His approval rating off the charts with suburban women. 1.00
00:18:58.000 Even more so than Joe Biden.
00:19:00.000 So Gavin Newsom is openly taunting Ron DeSantis.
00:19:05.000 And then Gavin Newsom did the media circuit last night.
00:19:09.000 Now, Gavin is, he is a very slippery guy.
00:19:12.000 He's also incredibly self-confident, very self-confident.
00:19:19.000 Gavin is a unique person in the Democrat Party because he seems on the appearance to actively court disagreement.
00:19:31.000 He's not a social liberal in the sense that free speech liberal.
00:19:34.000 He's not.
00:19:35.000 He's all about power, but he's talented.
00:19:42.000 He's incredibly good at gamesmanship, double speak. 0.84
00:19:46.000 He's acting as a Democrat loyalist.
00:19:50.000 But think about the self-righteousness.
00:19:53.000 And quite honestly, I could use an anatomy figure, but I'll just say, let's just say the, how do I say this nicely?
00:20:02.000 The Stones.
00:20:05.000 As a Democrat governor of the largest state in the country, to show up at a Fox-sponsored debate in the spin room, that's something.
00:20:17.000 And it also shows that he thinks he can debate anybody.
00:20:20.000 But of course, if Tucker Carlson got his hands on Gavin Newsome, if Steve Bannon, if Matt Walsh cut their hands on Gavin Newsome, it wouldn't go well.
00:20:34.000 So Gavin plays the prideful, self-righteous thing, but he would definitely not do well in those scenarios.
00:20:46.000 Not at all.
00:20:48.000 Now, some people say, but I think Gavin would do a Gavin v. Tucker. 0.88
00:20:51.000 I mean, look, Gavin Dodge is the most, he's a liar, right?
00:20:54.000 So Gavin says, we're against book banning.
00:20:56.000 Okay, Gavin, yes or no?
00:20:57.000 Do you think pornography should be in schools?
00:20:59.000 He's never been asked that question.
00:21:00.000 Never.
00:21:01.000 You should just pull out genderqueer and start reading it for him. 1.00
00:21:03.000 Hey, Gavin, you know, this is intimate details about gay sex. 1.00
00:21:08.000 What do you think about that, Gavin? 0.99
00:21:10.000 That's how you confront.
00:21:11.000 You show, you don't tell.
00:21:12.000 You confront it right in.
00:21:13.000 But boy, is he a very cocky person.
00:21:15.000 Here's Gavin Newsome on Sean Hannity's program.
00:21:20.000 And people say Gavin Newsome won.
00:21:22.000 I haven't watched the whole thing.
00:21:22.000 I don't know.
00:21:24.000 But let's play cut 163.
00:21:26.000 Is this border secure?
00:21:27.000 I believe Ronald Reagan was right in 1986 when he supported comprehensive immigration.
00:21:31.000 Well, he also said it was the worst decision he ever made.
00:21:33.000 Yeah, but I believe that he did the right thing for the right reasons because he recognized it's not just a border issue.
00:21:38.000 That's the worst decision.
00:21:39.000 The entire system needs to be reformed.
00:21:41.000 We all agree we have a border challenge.
00:21:43.000 We all agree we need to reform the asylum system.
00:21:47.000 We agree in strong borders.
00:21:49.000 I think the Republican Party is complicit in this as well.
00:21:53.000 And by the way, I don't need to be educated on this.
00:21:55.000 I have the largest land port in the Western hemisphere here in the state of California.
00:22:00.000 So Gavin is very smart in this regard.
00:22:02.000 He's trying to create himself into a right-wing villain to use the energy of the hate to propel himself.
00:22:10.000 And honestly, that's very, very smart.
00:22:14.000 Politics is a game of energy, energy transfer.
00:22:20.000 It's the laws of physics.
00:22:22.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
00:22:26.000 This is something Trump did very well.
00:22:27.000 Trump only got bigger because the media attacked him and he said, hey, look, right-wing world, the media hates me.
00:22:33.000 And that made people like Trump more.
00:22:36.000 So Gavin is now able to go to Democrat donors, Democrat activists, and say, do you see how much the right hates me?
00:22:43.000 And I'm not afraid to go debate him.
00:22:46.000 And Gavin is different.
00:22:48.000 He's cut from a different cloth.
00:22:50.000 AOC, Rashida Talib, they're terrified to go on these programs.
00:22:55.000 When I go to a college campus, 99% of the time, the professors, the smug philosopher kings, the activists, they don't want to debate and they don't want to have a conversation.
00:23:06.000 Gavin thinks so highly of himself.
00:23:08.000 And he better watch out because, you know, he could play patty cake, but when he starts to get up to Tucker or Walsh or some of our people that throw strikes, we'll see how slippery he can actually be.
00:23:21.000 And again, the way to handle that kind of says, hold on, pal.
00:23:24.000 What are you doing right now to actually stop the invasion of California?
00:23:27.000 Is it an invasion, Gavin Newsom?
00:23:30.000 But Hannity is friends with Gavin Newsome.
00:23:32.000 So I think there was a little bit of a fraternal relationship, right?
00:23:38.000 So I think that that was probably preventing some of the more direct questions from being asked.
00:23:43.000 Here's Cut 164.
00:23:44.000 And by the way, Gavin is always welcome on our show anytime.
00:23:46.000 Play Cut 164.
00:23:48.000 Very energy independent.
00:23:50.000 By the way, we have to be five years.
00:23:51.000 We are more energy dependent today.
00:23:53.000 Look that up.
00:23:53.000 It's a fact.
00:23:54.000 And if you're unilaterally encouraged, the people watching, look at this.
00:24:02.000 994 quads.
00:24:03.000 Google 9.5.95 has put independent today under Biden.
00:24:10.000 Pence doesn't know that.
00:24:12.000 Your audience doesn't know that.
00:24:13.000 More domestic oil production than any time in history.
00:24:16.000 We're on pace this year.
00:24:18.000 That's a fact.
00:24:18.000 You guys keep making that up.
00:24:20.000 So, Gavin, why are gas prices so high then?
00:24:23.000 Just an interesting question.
00:24:25.000 Why are gas prices so high if we're more energy independent?
00:24:29.000 How much energy are we actually exporting?
00:24:31.000 We were a net exporter under Trump.
00:24:32.000 We've stopped that.
00:24:34.000 How long does it take to actually develop oil and natural gas?
00:24:39.000 Can you do it in 10 months, 12 months?
00:24:42.000 Sometimes it takes three to four years.
00:24:45.000 Now, even though that was a complete lie, cable television is not, unfortunately, not about the truth.
00:24:52.000 It's not a series of op-eds where you can get them peer-reviewed and fact-checked.
00:24:55.000 It's a question of dominance.
00:24:57.000 And Gavin Newsom thinks he can dominate.
00:25:00.000 He's pretty good at it, actually.
00:25:02.000 And honestly, I could go into all this.
00:25:03.000 You guys know it's a lie.
00:25:04.000 Trump had us on track for three to four more million barrels a day than we are today under Biden is just catching up to Trump's top month pre-COVID.
00:25:13.000 West Texas crude is now at $93 a barrel, $93 a barrel.
00:25:21.000 And Gavin is welcome anytime on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:25:25.000 We'll see.
00:25:27.000 We'll see really how selective he is in what shows he goes on.
00:25:31.000 By the way, I think Jesse Waters would run circles around him.
00:25:34.000 Jesse's a smart dude.
00:25:36.000 I like Jesse a lot.
00:25:38.000 I think Jesse would come with the goods.
00:25:41.000 Hey, Gavin, why do you have the greatest net migration of any state in the country?
00:25:44.000 Why are so many people leaving California if you're doing such a great job?
00:25:48.000 You talk about wealth inequality.
00:25:50.000 Why is the greatest distance between working people and rich people in your home state?
00:25:56.000 Just very simple questions.
00:25:58.000 If you're doing such a great job, why are so many people leaving?
00:26:01.000 The place that you were the mayor of is now considered to be a joke.
00:26:04.000 It's a laughingstock, Gavin Newsom.
00:26:06.000 San Francisco is a dystopian hellscape.
00:26:09.000 Hey, Gavin, do you feel safe?
00:26:11.000 Just a question.
00:26:12.000 For your son to walk unattended to San Francisco at 10 p.m.
00:26:16.000 Yes or no?
00:26:17.000 Prove it.
00:26:18.000 Drop your kid off right off the highway in San Francisco at Fisherman's Wharf and have him walk across the city that you governed for five years and the state that you currently govern.
00:26:27.000 Prove it to us.
00:26:28.000 Have your son walk into downtown San Francisco unattended.
00:26:32.000 Show us, Gavin.
00:26:33.000 Prove that you actually believe in your ideology.
00:26:37.000 That's how you handle Gavin Newsome.
00:26:38.000 Personal, offense, aggressive, direct.
00:26:41.000 You show, you don't tell.
00:26:43.000 Not like this fact here and all that.
00:26:45.000 He's going to lie.
00:26:46.000 You go directly at him.
00:26:48.000 Indisputable.
00:26:50.000 You stop a snake with aggression and direct confrontation in his face.
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00:28:11.000 Not all of it was bad.
00:28:12.000 I want to compliment Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:28:14.000 The media has come after Vivek for saying that this is fake news.
00:28:17.000 This is the problem when all of your institutions are captured.
00:28:20.000 The American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, I think it's called that, but the major psychiatric institutions.
00:28:26.000 For years, we considered transgenderism, gender dysphoria, a mental disease, a mental illness, which it is. 0.99
00:28:33.000 Something that needs treatment, not affirmation.
00:28:35.000 Something that needs healing, not platforming.
00:28:38.000 Something that needs, you could call it CBT type therapy or watchful waiting, as Dr. Miriam Grossman would call it in her excellent book.
00:28:47.000 But so Vivek says this, and he's 100% correct, 100% correct.
00:28:53.000 And Time, I think it was Time magazine that came out with a fact check and they said, wrong, transgenderism is not a mental illness. 0.94
00:28:59.000 It's a mental illness. 0.99
00:29:00.000 These people need help. 0.73
00:29:02.000 Play cut 137.
00:29:03.000 I have to be very clear about this. 1.00
00:29:05.000 Transgenderism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. 1.00
00:29:10.000 We have to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is. 0.96
00:29:13.000 And I'm sorry, it is not compassionate to affirm a kid's confusion.
00:29:18.000 That is not compassion.
00:29:19.000 That is cruelty.
00:29:20.000 So I will ban genital mutilation or chemical castration.
00:29:25.000 I don't know why Dane is interrupting him.
00:29:27.000 It was the best part of the whole debate.
00:29:28.000 It frustrates me.
00:29:29.000 So honestly, Vivek, God bless you, man.
00:29:33.000 That is worth it.
00:29:34.000 That is a righteous fight.
00:29:35.000 That is a virtuous fight.
00:29:37.000 The current chemical castration of teenagers will go down as one of the great moral injustices in the history of the West.
00:29:50.000 Irreversible damage to children that they are preying on.
00:29:55.000 These are predators.
00:29:57.000 So good for you, Vivek.
00:29:58.000 You are right.
00:29:58.000 It is not compassion.
00:30:00.000 It is cruelty. 0.98
00:30:01.000 They are chopping off the breasts.
00:30:03.000 They are doing double mastectomies, irreversible.
00:30:07.000 They are butchering 12, 13, and 14-year-olds.
00:30:10.000 And not a couple hundred, not a couple thousand that we know of tens of thousands of people that have been mutilated as children.
00:30:18.000 They get put on these incredibly damaging drugs like Lupron and then the antidepressant cocktails that follow.
00:30:26.000 It is the moral modern day equivalent of the lobotomy craze.
00:30:33.000 Thankfully, we said, oh, that was a bad idea, despite all the people it harmed.
00:30:38.000 Thankfully, over 20 people are pushing back.
00:30:41.000 But the media is all in on this trans delusion.
00:30:44.000 Again, that's an attack vector where if Gavin Newsom, you could really push Gavin on that.
00:30:51.000 He doesn't understand the issue.
00:30:53.000 He's talking points.
00:30:53.000 He's shallow.
00:30:54.000 He thinks he's slippery.
00:30:57.000 You could really push Gavin on that.
00:30:59.000 But you have to know your stuff.
00:31:01.000 And by the way, 20 states are pushing back, not 20 people.
00:31:04.000 I'm sorry.
00:31:05.000 The Ukraine thing was also very interesting to look at last night.
00:31:08.000 Vivek Ramaswamy is the only person on stage yesterday, to his credit, that stands against sending unlimited amounts of money to Ukraine while our entire country collapses.
00:31:17.000 Play cut 138, please.
00:31:19.000 The reality is just because just because Putin's an evil dictator does not mean that Ukraine is good. 0.60
00:31:26.000 This is a country that has banned 11 opposition parties.
00:31:30.000 That is not true.
00:31:31.000 We're driving Russia.
00:31:34.000 Excuse me.
00:31:37.000 You'll have your chance in just a moment.
00:31:38.000 The hurling personal insults isn't helping.
00:31:40.000 China is the real enemy, and we're driving Russia further into China's arms. 0.98
00:31:44.000 Just last week, Vivek was hailing let Putin have Ukraine.
00:31:48.000 That's a green light to China to take Taiwan. 0.95
00:31:52.000 We need a peace comes through.
00:31:54.000 Strength.
00:31:55.000 Governor Christie.
00:31:56.000 Governor Christie.
00:31:57.000 Communist Party of China is the real enemy. 0.91
00:32:01.000 You have to listen to that tape four times to understand what the heck is going on.
00:32:04.000 But this is just one thing about neocons: with confidence, hubris, and pride, they tell you with certainty they know cause and effect.
00:32:13.000 If we do this, then this will happen.
00:32:15.000 If we do this, then that will happen.
00:32:17.000 They are almost always wrong.
00:32:18.000 They try to centrally plan foreign policy.
00:32:22.000 Think about that.
00:32:23.000 They did it in Vietnam. 0.91
00:32:24.000 If we do not stop at domino theory, if we do not invade Iraq, nuclear weapons for everybody. 0.96
00:32:30.000 They might be right, but they're usually wrong.
00:32:34.000 At the crux of neoconservatism, at the base of neoliberalism that Nikki believes in, Pence believes in, is an assuredness of themselves that they can centrally plan the geopolitical decisions involving billions of people and hundreds of different motivations and thousands of years of history.
00:32:53.000 They are no better than the central planners that plan the reaction to COVID and school lockdowns.
00:32:59.000 They are no better than the central planners that try to do philosophy and king, philosophizing king over the American economy.
00:33:06.000 These are central planners by different means.
00:33:09.000 They just wear a neoconservative jersey and it's rooted in pride and smugness and hubris.
00:33:14.000 If we don't do this, then that will happen.
00:33:16.000 You don't know that.
00:33:17.000 You don't.
00:33:18.000 In fact, you've been wrong about those predictions for 50 years.
00:33:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:26.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
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