The Charlie Kirk Show - The Grand Conspiracy Against Trump — And A Big Announcement

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Will Sharf walks us through the legal implications regarding Donald Trump, the collusion against him via the White House Counsel's office and Biden interfering in the 2024 election.

00:00:11.000 Then we get to Josh McCun, who runs the Georgia GOP.

00:00:14.000 He's doing a great job.

00:00:15.000 And we talk about that.

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00:00:39.000 Here we go.

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00:01:38.000 An obsession of this program is the timeline and the law fair.

00:01:42.000 I cannot emphasize enough.

00:01:44.000 Keep the big thing, the big thing, the main thing, the main thing.

00:01:47.000 If they are able to convict Donald Trump, put him on house arrest, they can interfere with the 2024 election in a way that will make the mail-and-ballot COVID Twitter stuff of 2020 look like child's play.

00:02:02.000 It is mission critical that we get as close to a traditional election in 2024 as possible.

00:02:09.000 I don't know if that's possible.

00:02:10.000 You have to keep the main thing, the main thing.

00:02:13.000 Stay focused.

00:02:14.000 Somebody who's doing a great job of that is Will Sharf.

00:02:17.000 He is on Trump's legal team.

00:02:18.000 He was there yesterday with President Donald Trump.

00:02:20.000 He's been doing an excellent job, and there is so much to cover with Will.

00:02:24.000 He's also running for Attorney General of Missouri.

00:02:26.000 If you are in Missouri, you should support Will.

00:02:28.000 I've known Will for a long time.

00:02:30.000 He's sharp, he's tough, and the president is very, very happy with him.

00:02:34.000 Joining us now is Will Sharf.

00:02:36.000 Will, welcome to the program.

00:02:38.000 Give us an update.

00:02:39.000 What happened yesterday in Washington, D.C.

00:02:42.000 So, yesterday we had arguments in front of the D.C. Circuit on this crucial issue of presidential immunity.

00:02:48.000 Our view is that a president has full immunity from criminal prosecution for acts that fall within the outer perimeter of his official responsibilities as president, unless he's first impeached and convicted, as set out in the Constitution.

00:03:04.000 No president in American history before Donald J. Trump, no former president, has ever been criminally indicted for his acts in office.

00:03:13.000 We think that precedent speaks for itself, and we're hopeful that ultimately our theory is going to be vindicated in the courts.

00:03:21.000 But I want to get back to something that you said in your lead-in.

00:03:24.000 The crucial thing to remember here is that all of these cases against President Trump, whether it's the bogus criminal prosecutions being brought by special counsel Jack Smith, whether it's the New York civil case that he's facing, up and down the line, whether it's Georgia, this is all about election interference.

00:03:43.000 This is all about keeping President Trump tied down with legal matters so that he can't campaign as effectively as he would be able to otherwise.

00:03:52.000 Every revelation that has come out in the last few months, the more we learn about the initiation of these prosecutions of all of these cases, it is abundantly clear that this is all part of a larger plan by the Biden administration to interfere with their principal political rival, Donald Trump, who, by the way, is crushing Joe Biden in polls all over the country.

00:04:15.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:04:16.000 And I just, this sideshow, this Jerry Springer thing happening right now in Congress, I just, yesterday was the big news.

00:04:24.000 So there's these oral arguments that are happening.

00:04:27.000 And so the regime narrative is this, Will.

00:04:30.000 And I just want you the best, I know that there's privileged arguments and all this, but do the best you can to help us navigate this.

00:04:36.000 They go to such ridiculous extremes and they say, well, let's say that President Trump has a state of the union and he takes out a gun and kills somebody.

00:04:45.000 You're trying to say that he can't be indicted. 0.96

00:04:47.000 Now, I'm not exaggerating.

00:04:49.000 They made an argument similar to this, right?

00:04:50.000 Or they said that he could deploy SEAL Team 6 against a political opponent.

00:04:54.000 Can you walk through some of these outrageous arguments that they're making, which of course have zero application to the facts at hand?

00:05:02.000 Sure.

00:05:02.000 So yesterday, Judge Pan on the D.C. Circuit, a Biden appointee to the D.C. Circuit, asked my colleague John Sauer, under your theory, could the president order SEAL Team 6 to go kill somebody?

00:05:14.000 And would he still have presidential immunity?

00:05:16.000 And our answer is a president giving an order to the military is a quintessentially presidential act.

00:05:24.000 If you're saying a president doesn't have criminal immunity for that sort of act, if you don't have to go through the impeachment and conviction process set out in the Constitution before prosecuting a president for something like that, well, then any prosecutor in the country could indict Barack Obama for the drone strike that killed two American citizens when he took out Anwar al-Al-Laki.

00:05:47.000 Any prosecutor in the country could potentially indict George W. Bush over acts relating to the Iraq war.

00:05:54.000 The argument that they're making is incredibly radical in its scope and breadth.

00:05:59.000 And that's why the Constitution sets up such a careful system of separation of powers, balancing branch of government against branch of government and ensuring essentially that presidents will have freedom of action to exercise the weighty responsibilities that are entrusted to them by the Constitution.

00:06:17.000 So this was an attempt by a judge to frame a very simple question in the most radical way possible.

00:06:23.000 The answer to the question is yes.

00:06:25.000 A president's orders to the military, a president's orders to the departments and agencies that fall under his control, a president has absolute criminal immunity for those acts unless he's first impeached and convicted.

00:06:39.000 That's the way the Constitution works.

00:06:41.000 That's been totally uncontroversial for the entirety of American history until we had a president named Donald J. Trump, who the left is willing to walk over landmines, to shred the Constitution, to shred the rule of law to get because they are so scared of him winning the presidency next fall.

00:07:01.000 And it's important to remember, impeachment can occur post-presidency.

00:07:04.000 If not mistaken, the Senate took a vote after Trump was out of office with the second impeachment.

00:07:11.000 I could be wrong, but impeachment can occur even when the president is no longer in office.

00:07:16.000 The point being is that is the constitutionally mandated, the constitutionally prescribed way to hold a president accountable for conduct remedy.

00:07:26.000 Now, let me ask you this.

00:07:28.000 Outside of the constitutional part, there has been an unspoken tradition, though, that I think is actually a good idea, which is we don't indict former presidents, the norm, because it just creates this ugly, messy, eventually, I'm going to go after you.

00:07:46.000 You're going to go after me.

00:07:46.000 You can never heal as a country.

00:07:48.000 You can never remedy as a country.

00:07:50.000 Now, this will not be persuasive to any of these judges, obviously, but can you just talk about the damage this is doing to the binds that tie us together?

00:08:00.000 It is the elimination of the norms that allow us to be a country, not a colony constantly at war with one another.

00:08:09.000 You know, Charlie, I think you know, I used to be a federal prosecutor, and we were trained that prosecutions are never supposed to be political.

00:08:16.000 They're never even supposed to look political because the power of prosecution, the power of the state, is so vast and weighty that if you start leveraging it for political purposes, it's the end of the republic.

00:08:27.000 That's why it's so outrageous what they're doing to President Trump.

00:08:31.000 They're not indicting him for anything that he did.

00:08:33.000 They started with the presumption that they wanted to criminally indict him.

00:08:37.000 They wanted to throw him in prison.

00:08:39.000 And then they tried to string together hairbrained legal theories to achieve that end.

00:08:44.000 That's the opposite of the way things are supposed to work.

00:08:47.000 As you said, we have a long tradition in this country against exactly the sort of political prosecutions that are going on right now.

00:08:54.000 And for very good reason.

00:08:56.000 Without that tradition, without those procedural safeguards, we're talking Banana Republic stuff.

00:09:02.000 And that's where I fear this country is going.

00:09:04.000 An endless cycle of political recrimination and prosecution that will leave our government totally unable to protect Americans' rights, to do its duties.

00:09:14.000 What Joe Biden has unleashed here is one of the scariest things constitutionally that's happened in the history of our republic.

00:09:22.000 And we're reluctantly going to respond, meaning I've been calling for DAs and AGs to fight fire with fire.

00:09:29.000 And reluctantly, because we know where this goes, this goes into a direction where we're not actually a country.

00:09:35.000 We're at each other's throats.

00:09:36.000 And you could tell a lot by which political movement is actually wanting to govern the country.

00:09:42.000 You could make a lot of criticisms against the right.

00:09:44.000 We would much rather heal and have a regular election and not go after former presidents in this form or fashion.

00:09:50.000 Timeline.

00:09:51.000 Do you think Donald Trump will be in a federal trial before the election?

00:09:57.000 We certainly hope not.

00:09:59.000 When you look at the appellate process that we're in right now, we believe that if these issues of presidential immunity are considered with the deliberation that they deserve, that that could stretch the timeline before a trial.

00:10:13.000 And no trial should happen here, by the way.

00:10:15.000 The case should be dismissed.

00:10:16.000 But we think that could stretch the timeline well beyond election day.

00:10:20.000 And I think if the Supreme Court treats this case as it would any other case, we would likely see oral argument on this case maybe next November or December.

00:10:30.000 But again, the point of these prosecutions is exactly what you said, which is forcing President Trump to sit in courtrooms like he did yesterday instead of campaigning in places like Iowa.

00:10:41.000 I mean, it's so clear that that's the motive here, and that's a real problem.

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00:12:45.000 So Will, if I'm correct, are you involved in the Fulton County case or are you adjacent to it?

00:12:52.000 Before I proceed, I'm sure you're aware of what's unfolding.

00:12:56.000 Sure, I'm not entered in that case.

00:12:58.000 I'm not representing President Trump in Georgia, but the team that I work with, my team has worked closely with Steve Sadow and President Trump's attorneys in Georgia, who are doing an outstanding job, by the way.

00:13:10.000 So it's a case we're all tracking pretty closely.

00:13:12.000 So, yeah, I mean, I don't want to put you in a difficult spot to answer a question, but just macro, what are your takes on some of these recent developments?

00:13:20.000 The 127-page filing that Big Fanny Willis very well might have a relationship with this personal injury lawyer, Nathan Wade, that he had 16 billable hours to the White House counsel's office with Joe Biden.

00:13:32.000 Just talk about, you're a federal prosecutor, former federal prosecutor, Will, super smart guy.

00:13:36.000 If these end up being true, if these allegations are true, what would that mean?

00:13:42.000 Yeah, so President Trump actually said yesterday during his press conference that it now looks like Fannie Willis is in more criminal trouble than any of the defendants in her case down in Georgia.

00:13:52.000 And I think that's absolutely right.

00:13:54.000 What happened here is that Fannie Willis hired a private attorney, Nathan Wade, to be a special prosecutor to bring this election case down in Georgia.

00:14:04.000 They've paid him, I believe, over $700,000 now.

00:14:08.000 It turns out that he's actually her secret boyfriend, that they're having an affair, and that he has lavished her with gifts, with vacations, with all sorts of stuff.

00:14:19.000 So that's issue number one, that this prosecution is just totally corrupt.

00:14:24.000 And there are very serious issues relating to potentially federal honest services fraud or bribery charges that could be brought against Fannie Willis.

00:14:32.000 Issue number two is that Nathan Wade had a meeting with the White House counsel's office in November of 2022.

00:14:41.000 Now, the date of that meeting is very important because the day he was at the White House counsel's office is the same day that Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith to be special counsel.

00:14:53.000 The timing there is uncanny, and it speaks to what we've spoken about before, which is that all of these cases, federal and state alike, I believe, are part of a much bigger campaign of election interference that's being guided by the Biden White House and by Joe Biden himself.

00:15:12.000 None dare call it a conspiracy, Will.

00:15:15.000 Are you saying that the White House counsel's office, which is unique, that's not the Department of Justice, that technically is they are there to protect the president of the United States and advise on legal matters.

00:15:27.000 Are they operating as the hub, the offensive coordinator for multiple indictments in multiple jurisdictions, both on the federal and the state level?

00:15:36.000 The rabbit hole goes way deeper than that, Charlie.

00:15:39.000 You have a former White House counsel's office official named Calangelo, who previously worked with Tish James in New York, who then showed up in the Biden White House Counsel's office, and who then ended up in Alvin Bragg's office, the DA in New York that's prosecuting President Trump for bogus business records violations.

00:15:59.000 So it does seem that there's an awful lot of stuff happening in the White House counsel's office relating to these political prosecutions of President Trump.

00:16:09.000 When we talk about this campaign of lawfare being a campaign of election interference, being a coordinated campaign to interfere with President Trump's First Amendment rights, I think there's a lot there.

00:16:21.000 And I suspect that in the coming weeks and months, we're going to find out even more.

00:16:25.000 It's a steady drip, drip, drip of stories.

00:16:28.000 And the latest revelations about Fannie Willis's corrupt prosecution in Georgia, I think, are front and center in that sort of a dynamic.

00:16:38.000 Excellent commentary.

00:16:39.000 Super sharp.

00:16:40.000 Are there any legal implications of this collusion?

00:16:42.000 Is it a crime, grounds of dismissal?

00:16:44.000 Does it show political bias?

00:16:47.000 I think it certainly shows political bias.

00:16:50.000 I think there certainly may be political ramifications or legal ramifications for this.

00:16:56.000 Unfortunately, there are strong doctrines that prevent the use of civil litigation from interfering in ongoing criminal litigation.

00:17:04.000 The reason for that is we typically presume that prosecutions are conducted in an upstanding above-the-board sort of way, which is the exact opposite of what we're seeing in these cases.

00:17:16.000 So it's a very difficult situation, but we're obviously looking at all options.

00:17:20.000 President Trump is looking at all options.

00:17:22.000 And I think that as more information comes out about these prosecutions, about where they come from, about how they originated, I think the whole story just looks much, much worse for Joe Biden and much better for President Trump.

00:17:36.000 Will, you're doing a great job.

00:17:38.000 We're on this like a dog on a bone.

00:17:40.000 You know, every show you have to decide what you're going to focus on.

00:17:44.000 We will see how deep this rabbit hole goes.

00:17:46.000 I am convinced on a gut, an instinct, a soul level that somebody, maybe not Joe Biden himself, somebody in the Eisenhower executive office building is calling shots.

00:17:58.000 And if we can prove it, it makes Watergate look like child's play and we can get dismissals and we can get a restoration of the 2024 election.

00:18:06.000 Will, excellent job, and support him for Attorney General in Missouri.

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00:19:17.000 All right, look, we're going to get there.

00:19:19.000 I'm telling you, we are going to get there.

00:19:20.000 We're close.

00:19:21.000 I can smell it.

00:19:23.000 When there's smoke, there's fire.

00:19:25.000 We're like a dog with a bone with this story.

00:19:26.000 I'm telling you.

00:19:27.000 Again, I know some people want to see the Jerry Springer show.

00:19:30.000 That's great.

00:19:30.000 Fine.

00:19:31.000 You guys can watch the clips on that.

00:19:32.000 That Will Sharp interview, this is why you got to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:19:37.000 That was a great interview.

00:19:39.000 I learned stuff.

00:19:39.000 He's talking about Alvin Bragg people and the incestuous nature of the staffing that occurs.

00:19:47.000 Really important stuff.

00:19:48.000 If we chip away at this, I'm telling you, if we dedicate 30 days to this, FOIA requests, subpoenas, committee hearings, you get Brian Kemp off his tail, which we're going to talk about in a second, we can restore the 2024 election.

00:20:03.000 All we want is a fair shot, right?

00:20:05.000 That's what we want.

00:20:05.000 We want an election that is not a selection.

00:20:08.000 We want a representative election, not an oligarchy.

00:20:12.000 And right now, we're headed for an oligarchy.

00:20:14.000 We're heading for indictments that interfere with election.

00:20:17.000 But if you can get Big Fanny Willis and the Biden White House on defense on this, we have a real shot, everybody.

00:20:23.000 All of a sudden, we have a shot going into November.

00:20:26.000 I cannot emphasize the weight, the gravity, and the significance.

00:20:30.000 And we're not going to lay off of this.

00:20:33.000 This is the closest we have seen to getting the facts that there's a coordination hub, that there is an offensive coordinator in the press box calling the shots of what we are seeing.

00:20:45.000 So all eyes are on Georgia right now.

00:20:47.000 And joining us now is Josh McCoon, Georgia GOP chair.

00:20:50.000 He's doing a great job.

00:20:51.000 Josh, welcome to the program.

00:20:53.000 Josh, we know that the radical left is responsible for weaponizing our justice system.

00:20:59.000 They're trying to turn Georgia into a blue state.

00:21:02.000 Just kind of riff as the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party on some of these developments we've learned in the last couple of days.

00:21:10.000 Well, we already knew, Charlie, and thank you for having me on today, about many improprieties in this case.

00:21:17.000 Nathan Wade trying to solicit some of the people he was prosecuting, sending out direct mail pieces saying, I'll be your defense attorney, not getting the oath of office as a special prosecutor when he was supposed to under Georgia law.

00:21:32.000 But obviously, this week's revelations have just been shocking.

00:21:36.000 That he, the allegation being that he's in a romantic relationship with Fannie Willis, that that was occurring before she selected him, that she has transferred hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to him to prosecute this case, that he in turn has showered her with gifts, giving both of them a financial incentive to keep these cases going on no matter what.

00:21:59.000 And as you referenced just moments ago, the revelations from his billing records that he's been spending time with the Biden White House, potentially coordinating all of these moves.

00:22:10.000 So obviously, we called yesterday for an immediate halt to all these proceedings, for an independent investigation into Willis and to Wade, both potential impropriety, perhaps even criminality here.

00:22:23.000 The people deserve to know what's going on.

00:22:25.000 And we've been saying from the beginning, this was a witch hunt that needed to end.

00:22:29.000 I really think there can be no more debate at this point that it should be over.

00:22:32.000 These cases should be dismissed.

00:22:34.000 Josh, you're doing a great job running the Georgia GOP.

00:22:37.000 You're going to have to educate me, though.

00:22:39.000 Why is the Georgia House of Representatives and the Senate, why are they sitting on their hands and just allowing Big Fanny to do all this stuff? 0.99

00:22:48.000 It is, it's really shocking to me, given, let's just say at the very least, let's take the Biden White House thing out of the picture. 0.54

00:22:56.000 We have evidence that Fannie Willis did not follow Fulton County commissioner law and guidelines to get reimbursements for somebody.

00:23:06.000 She had to get that approved by a board.

00:23:08.000 She herself could not approve it because of a conflict of interest.

00:23:10.000 Obviously, they traveled together.

00:23:11.000 They might have a romantic relationship.

00:23:13.000 Where is the Georgia legislature on this?

00:23:16.000 So last year, Charlie, the legislature passed a law to create an oversight commission for district attorneys.

00:23:23.000 Under Georgia law, there had really been no check on DAs in our state.

00:23:27.000 The Supreme Court threw a wrench into that a few months ago.

00:23:31.000 Legislature, as recently as yesterday, is moving to make changes to that law so that the qualifications commission that has been appointed can move forward on complaints that have been filed against Willis by Georgia Senate Republicans so that this investigation can take place and that sanctions can issue, including her removal from office.

00:23:52.000 So, do you think that's going to happen?

00:23:54.000 Will there be action?

00:23:55.000 I mean, can we defund Fannie Willis's witch hunt here? 0.78

00:24:00.000 Is that possible?

00:24:02.000 So, the General Assembly funds district attorney's offices partially.

00:24:08.000 I would say about 90% of the money funding Fannie Willis's office comes from Fulton County.

00:24:14.000 And if you know anything about the Fulton County Commission, it's a majority Democrat commission.

00:24:20.000 They're holding up one of our appointments to their Board of Elections right now.

00:24:23.000 I think that if the legislature took away the 10% or so that goes to her office, the Fulton County Commission would backfill that.

00:24:31.000 But obviously, the legislature could do that. 0.96

00:24:34.000 It would be more of a symbolic gesture than actually bringing this case to a halt.

00:24:38.000 I think what has to happen is Judge McAfee has to bring everybody in.

00:24:43.000 He has to say these proceedings are going to be stayed pending a full independent investigation into all of these different aspects of impropriety that have been revealed this week.

00:24:53.000 So, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Governor Kemp also fire Fannie Willis if he wanted to?

00:25:01.000 So, the Qualifications Commission, if they recommend it, then at that point, there would be an involvement from the governor's office.

00:25:10.000 If she's indicted herself, if she's indicted of a criminal offense, the governor can then suspend her and then she would be ultimately removed if she was found guilty of a criminal offense.

00:25:23.000 But that is really the extent of his authority with regard to being able to remove her and bring this matter to an end.

00:25:32.000 In my opinion, the best way for this to move forward is for the qualifications commission, the legislature, to get them moving immediately by making this legislative fix, hopefully this week or next week, and then for the commission to intervene in the criminal case, ask that that be stayed until their investigation can be completed.

00:25:51.000 So, Josh, you have a battle on your hands.

00:25:52.000 Can you just walk our national audience through sometimes just because people that have an R in front of their name?

00:25:58.000 And I know you're chairman of the GOP and you're trying to put all the tribes together, but I'm sure that some of your headaches and frustration are people who call themselves Republicans, but don't necessarily don't act like them.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, we certainly have a problem in our state, and I don't think it's limited to Georgia in that there are a lot of different folks that have different agendas.

00:26:20.000 My agenda is very simple: it is to elect a Republican president in November, and it is to get our presidential electors and everybody caught up in this bogus criminal witch hunt that Fannie Willis started cleared.

00:26:34.000 Lives have been ruined.

00:26:36.000 People have spent over two years of their lives just on hold.

00:26:40.000 And we're not just talking about the three folks that got indicted, the electors that got indicted, but we're talking about an 80-year-old grandmother who spent two years wondering when there was going to be a knock at the door and be arrested and taken away from her family.

00:26:53.000 I've seen it affect people's health.

00:26:55.000 It's just a terrible situation that they've been put through for two years.

00:27:00.000 And I believe that with these revelations, I think that all Georgia Republicans are coming together with the idea that this case has to end.

00:27:09.000 It has to end immediately.

00:27:12.000 We have to have an investigation.

00:27:13.000 We have to get to the bottom of these allegations.

00:27:16.000 And this certainly should not move forward.

00:27:19.000 So in closing here, Josh, what is the sentiment and the tone of the Georgia grassroots?

00:27:26.000 The average grassroots warrior in Georgia that is losing their country.

00:27:31.000 What is the vibe?

00:27:33.000 I just imagine that they are probably shaking at the ramparts right now while their once red state of Georgia, you have Raphael Warnock and John Osif.

00:27:46.000 You have a ridiculous indictment of not just President Trump, but of America's great mayor, Rudy Giuliani, and Mark Meadows.

00:27:56.000 What is the average Georgia grassroots GOP activist thinking about this? 0.63

00:28:02.000 People are furious, Charlie.

00:28:03.000 I mean, they're incredibly angry.

00:28:06.000 Everything that's happened 2020 going forward, all the issues with the 2020 election, the drop boxes that were installed without the legislature's say-so, the mobile voting units, the end of signature verification with absentee ballots.

00:28:26.000 People are furious about that, and they're obviously furious about the consequences that we are now seeing.

00:28:30.000 As I mentioned earlier, we get two appointees to the Fulton Elections Board.

00:28:36.000 Fulton County is going to play a critical role in our election.

00:28:39.000 Even though it's a Democratic county, we have a tremendous number of Republican votes in Fulton County, and we're being denied one of our two representatives on the elections board.

00:28:49.000 We're having to litigate that.

00:28:51.000 So people are very frustrated.

00:28:52.000 They're angry.

00:28:53.000 But the flip side to that is it's getting people energized.

00:28:56.000 They understand how critically vital it is to win in November.

00:29:01.000 Without Georgia, I don't believe we have a Republican president.

00:29:04.000 And I frankly think that it's going to be ruinous for the country if we do not win in November.

00:29:10.000 And so that's why I ran for party chairman.

00:29:13.000 It's why I think so many of us are devoted to this cause because we know this is our chance.

00:29:18.000 This is our chance to get the country back where it was before the disastrous 2020 situation.

00:29:24.000 Josh, you're doing a great job.

00:29:25.000 I hope to see you in Vegas, maybe in passing.

00:29:29.000 I'll be there.

00:29:29.000 Yeah, we're doing some stuff that they're not going to like.

00:29:32.000 I think we can finally make an announcement about that.

00:29:34.000 But you're doing a great job, Josh.

00:29:35.000 And I want everyone to know in Georgia, Josh is working hard.

00:29:38.000 He's doing the hustle work.

00:29:40.000 He's doing the gritty work.

00:29:41.000 Tyler loves working with you.

00:29:42.000 He sings your praises, which is good enough for me.

00:29:44.000 And really, we're 100% behind you.

00:29:46.000 It is mission critical that we win Georgia.

00:29:49.000 There is no path to the White House if you lose Georgia.

00:29:52.000 Period.

00:29:53.000 End of story.

00:29:54.000 Josh, God bless you.

00:29:55.000 Keep fighting.

00:29:55.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:29:59.000 All right.

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00:30:49.000 I'm disgusted with the RNC.

00:30:53.000 It's no mystery here. 1.00

00:30:54.000 Ronna McRomney, loser. 1.00

00:30:57.000 They're very good at losing. 1.00

00:30:58.000 They have record low amounts of money.

00:30:59.000 They're not raising money.

00:31:00.000 And so it'd be easy for us to kind of just sit here in the studio and say, oh, yeah, it's terrible.

00:31:05.000 It's awful.

00:31:05.000 And I said, we don't do that.

00:31:06.000 At turning point action and the turning point ethos is we see a problem and we fix it.

00:31:13.000 And by the way, if you, just as a side note, because, you know, there's a lot of chattering people that just sit around and they do nothing.

00:31:20.000 They say, oh, really?

00:31:21.000 What has Turning Point USA done with young people over the last decade?

00:31:25.000 Well, with young men, especially.

00:31:27.000 New Gallup poll shows that young men very well might be 49 to 51% voting Republican, where they were about 34% Republican 10 years ago.

00:31:41.000 It's Gallup.

00:31:43.000 So look, we have a lot of problems with young ladies as far as getting them to vote the right way. 1.00

00:31:47.000 We're working on that. 0.99

00:31:49.000 But Turning Point sees a problem and we try to fix it.

00:31:53.000 We do that with all of our programming.

00:31:54.000 Turning Point Academy, TPUSA Faith, our high school program, our college program, Blexit, which is just doing a great job.

00:32:02.000 And Turning Point Action is growing like crazy.

00:32:04.000 As you well know, we are hiring hundreds of ballot chasers.

00:32:09.000 We're going to have more announcements on that all throughout the spring.

00:32:13.000 Full-time ballot chasers in March and in April.

00:32:17.000 You're going to see a picture.

00:32:18.000 I just want you to imagine we're going to have two, 300, hopefully even more, 400 or 500 full-time people.

00:32:23.000 We're going to have this unbelievable picture of people.

00:32:25.000 And every single one in their full-time job is going to be chasing ballots.

00:32:28.000 An unprecedented investment in grassroots action.

00:32:33.000 At Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, we do raise a significant amount of money because we do more than any other organization out there.

00:32:42.000 We work harder.

00:32:43.000 Our staff's amazing.

00:32:44.000 So there's this meeting.

00:32:45.000 By the way, this right here, you're not supposed to do this.

00:32:47.000 It's supposed to be, you know, the Gentleman's Club, the Country Club, the do-nothing RNC group, the Ronna McRomney. 0.99

00:32:52.000 They're supposed to have a paid-for vacation where they go and they do some stupid little votes and they pat people on the back. 0.99

00:32:58.000 No, no, no, no. 1.00

00:32:58.000 We're not going to put up with that. 1.00

00:32:59.000 So the RNC winter meeting is coming up in Vegas.

00:33:04.000 And Tyler and the whole team here, we said, these meetings are a waste of time.

00:33:08.000 These should be about action.

00:33:09.000 It should be about technology.

00:33:11.000 It should be about ballot chasing.

00:33:12.000 It should be about election integrity.

00:33:14.000 It should be about county chairs, not just the graft, not just let's pretend losing is winning.

00:33:21.000 And we said, why don't we just host our own alternative RNC meeting in the same town a couple days before, bring in state party chairs, bring in the county chairs.

00:33:33.000 By the way, Rana has never brought in the county chairs.

00:33:35.000 I asked Tyler that question.

00:33:37.000 We have over 70 county chairs coming in representing millions of voters, and we're putting them all up at the Planet Hollywood Resort.

00:33:46.000 This is not open to the public.

00:33:47.000 We are going to be streaming this.

00:33:48.000 You guys can watch it on rev. It's not open to the public because we do big public events.

00:33:51.000 AmFest, there's the People's Convention coming up in June.

00:33:55.000 That's fine.

00:33:56.000 This is about people that are currently in leadership positions on the county chair level or on the state party chair level.

00:34:03.000 We want to try to create that vibe and to have a competitor to this ridiculous country club thing that the RNC does.

00:34:09.000 So let's put this graphic up.

00:34:11.000 It's called Restoring National Confidence.

00:34:13.000 You get it?

00:34:14.000 RNC, brought to you by Turning Point Action.

00:34:17.000 By the way, you know, Rana McRomney and the RNC, you know that they spend their time circulating hit pieces about me.

00:34:23.000 They send out on their email negative stories written by the mainstream media about Turning Point.

00:34:28.000 So if you donate to the RNC, you're subsidizing them attacking Turning Point, just so you know.

00:34:33.000 And by the way, I guarantee you they're going to try to attack us.

00:34:35.000 This is going up on Twitter right now and we're doing this.

00:34:37.000 Bring it on.

00:34:39.000 Restoring National Confidence Summit, January 29th and 30th.

00:34:43.000 They're going to try and murder us for this.

00:34:46.000 Las Vegas, Nevada, Planet Hollywood Resort.

00:34:48.000 It's two days before the RNC winter meeting.

00:34:52.000 And it's not just going to be about getting rid of Rana.

00:34:54.000 That'll be part of it.

00:34:54.000 But it's going to be about real planning, real training.

00:34:58.000 Here's how to chase ballots.

00:34:59.000 Here's the best ideas we have to secure our elections.

00:35:02.000 Here's how we can try to get rid of machines in certain states.

00:35:04.000 Here's how we can go to paper-only ballots.

00:35:06.000 Here's how they're trying to kick Donald Trump off the ballot here.

00:35:09.000 We're going to actually do planning about the best technology.

00:35:12.000 We're going to be talking about the best messaging.

00:35:14.000 We're going to be pushing hard in the restoring national confidence segment.

00:35:18.000 And it is at the hotel next to where the RNC is hosting their meeting.

00:35:23.000 It might be the same hotel.

00:35:24.000 If not, it's the one next to it.

00:35:26.000 It's right there.

00:35:26.000 I think we wanted to get the same hotel, but there were some contract issues.

00:35:29.000 It's right there.

00:35:30.000 Same town, same place.

00:35:30.000 It's 100 yards away.

00:35:32.000 And it's January 29th and 30th.

00:35:34.000 And we're doing this for a reason. 0.96

00:35:36.000 Because I have zero faith in the pack of losers running the RNC. 0.98

00:35:44.000 They don't care. 0.94

00:35:45.000 I went to their meeting a year ago to try to get Harmit chair.

00:35:50.000 They don't love the country the way you do.

00:35:52.000 They don't work as hard as you do.

00:35:53.000 So it's time for us at Turning Point Action to step up.

00:35:56.000 We're hosting our own meeting.

00:35:58.000 It's never been done before.

00:35:59.000 Coming up in a couple of weeks.

00:36:01.000 You'll be able to watch it all online because we need to win coming into this November.

00:36:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:09.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:12.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:36:13.000 God bless.

00:36:17.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk dot com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 10, 2024

The Grand Conspiracy Against Trump — And A Big Announcement

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