00:00:27.000We bring in Mark Smith to talk about the gun debate and how this inevitably will always come back to the debate around guns and the left trying to strip us of our Second Amendment, our foundational rights as Americans, our God-given rights as Americans.
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00:01:35.000Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:37.000This is Andrew Colvett, otherwise known as producer Andrew and Relief Factor fan, filling in for the one and only Charlie Kirk.
00:01:44.000He's going to be taking this week to get some rest and relaxation, gearing up for what will prove to be a tremendously grueling, exhausting year as we move into the summer, into the fall.
00:02:06.000Also, I will tell you: if any there are any massive stories, let's say a Trump indictment or even maybe a Hunter indictment on Wednesday, which we're going to talk about in just a second, I have it on good authority that he will be back in.
00:02:20.000But nevertheless, we have a busy and packed show, lots of guests coming at you, and a ton of information to go over.
00:03:05.000We call them illegals on this show, folks.
00:03:07.000Everybody wants to call them economic migrants.
00:03:09.000They want to use all these euphemisms.
00:03:11.000Listen, I'm sure some of them are great people, but as we've seen in Texas, let's just call a spade a spade.
00:03:18.000They're not sending their best, folks.
00:03:20.000And yes, we do have compassion for people that are fleeing, certainly, but let's be very clear about what's going on here.
00:03:27.000This is incentivizing a mass migration of what even Secretary Mayorkis, head of the DHS, has called the largest migration in the Western Hemisphere since World War II.
00:03:39.000I mean, it's absolutely out of control.
00:03:42.000We're already, and I'll play this tape in just a second.
00:03:44.000We're already being told everything's at capacity.
00:04:56.000I want to start with the Texas invasion because it's, I think the theme today is the gaslighting of the American people.
00:05:05.000You've got a white supremacist Hispanic shooter.
00:05:08.000You've got a beloved subway performer in Jordan Ely who had 42 prior arrests, including hitting a 64-year-old grandma and attempted kidnapping of a seven-year-old.
00:05:18.000And then you've got our border is closed, myorcas, even though it is wide open and we all know it is wide open.
00:05:49.000Just today, I was on the phone with the sheriff of Cochise County.
00:05:55.000He has gotten no information from the Department of Homeland Security or the federal government about what the flow is going to look like, about what they can expect for processing in terms of how long it takes to process migrants.
00:06:06.000He's gotten no information, neither have I, about how many buses there will be available to transport migrants.
00:06:12.000Either the administration has that information and they're choosing not to share it, which is a problem since we're the ones who are going to deal with the crisis, or they don't have it.
00:06:21.000And that's even more concerning because how do you prepare for an inflow of migrants when you don't know what you're going to expect?
00:06:29.000Now, that is Democrat turned independent senator from the state of Arizona, Kirsten Cinema.
00:06:35.000She goes on to say in cut nine that the Biden administration has had two years to prepare for this and they did not do so.
00:08:06.000And now already, we're in the beginning of May, and we already have about 1.3 million that have crossed just so far.
00:08:14.000And we have 700,000 that are about to mob the border on Thursday.
00:08:18.000When this Title 42, the COVID era rule from the Trump administration that was, that the Biden administration has been trying to revoke since they got into office, but the courts have blocked.
00:09:15.000Those are seven stadiums that all hold 100,000 people.
00:09:20.000And that's just to start kind of helping you to wrap your mind around just what a sea of humanity is about to pour over the southern border.
00:09:31.000And what we're being told is, again, by folks like Secretary Mayorkis, that this, everything's secure.
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00:12:35.000That's why they're coming in record numbers.
00:12:37.000The Biden administration, by virtue of their lax border policies, has created a powder keg, an incentive strategy, basically luring these people in here.
00:12:49.000There is clip after clip of migrants, illegals, that are saying, listen, we know Joe Biden is going to let us in.
00:13:07.000And it's a disrespect to our entire nation, folks.
00:13:09.000This is probably, and Charlie will tell you, this is probably one of my top three issues all the time, the border.
00:13:16.000I've watched as the country has been transformed over my lifetime because of our lax immigration policies, our failure to enforce basic, common sense border security.
00:13:35.000Remain in Mexico was tremendously effective.
00:13:39.000There was a deal with the Northern Triangle countries that were basically he, here's what Trump did.
00:13:45.000And this is, of course, not what Biden's doing or borders are, Kamala Harris, is hanging our trade, the weight and the strength of our trading partnership with these countries over their head and saying, you will not get another dime.
00:14:47.000They're fleeing because of climate change.
00:14:49.000I dare you, Mr. Aguilar, to go down to the border and ask how many of those 700,000 illegals that are about to rush over the border are coming because of climate change.
00:15:12.000The neocons thought they could go into Iraq or Afghanistan and transform those countries, and it only took 20 years to figure out that you couldn't.
00:15:18.000Meanwhile, we've got an absolute urgent right now crisis on the border, and these guys are still talking about dealing with root causes.
00:15:27.000You cannot play God with countries that don't want to be run or governed or orderly.
00:15:33.000It does not matter what the United States of America does.
00:15:36.000All it takes is looking at El Salvador.
00:15:39.000El Salvador was not being run very well.
00:15:44.000And then you get a new president in who institutes law and order, deals with the negative headlines the world over, calling him a tyrant and saying that he's stripping all these criminals of their civil rights.
00:17:00.000Joe Scarborough, being honest for once, got to call it out every so often.
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00:18:53.000You're going to see the moms against, you know, this issue or that issue.
00:18:57.000Now, I believe their feelings, their emotions are real.
00:19:01.000I'm not trying to discount the horror that some families have lived through.
00:19:05.000But if you stacked up all of the gun deaths in America from the inner city that have been perpetrated by black-on-black crime, gang-related crime with handguns or shotguns that are used at close range versus AR-style military rifle, military grade, whatever euphemism they like to use and throw in there.
00:19:26.000And by the way, they don't understand the definitions of guns.
00:19:32.000Nobody should have an assault rifle and they can't define it.
00:19:35.000If you stacked up all the handgun deaths in America in our inner cities against shootings like the horrible thing that happened in Allen, Texas, that inner city shootings with handguns would dwarf by many, many magnitudes.
00:19:50.000And we're going to actually put that data together because I want it.
00:20:31.000Well, you know, we had a little tech snafu, it sounds like there, and I was getting on a roll there.
00:20:36.000So I apologize for getting in a little late here.
00:20:38.000But, Mark, I'm so glad that you were available today because, you know, this gun issue with every one of these shootings that we see happen, especially in these public places, it just, the left goes crazy.
00:20:52.000Now, we're all sad about the tragedy in Allen, Texas, but, you know, there is this issue about an armed citizenry that our founders understood very, very well, especially given the context of their historical moment.
00:21:07.000Make the case to us why the founders were so wise in the way that they set up the Constitution and the Second Amendment, the Bill of Rights, and make the case to the American, the people watching and listening why we need to protect this sacred right.
00:21:23.000Well, the founding fathers, when they constructed the Constitution and the Second Amendment's right to keep and bear arms, they read every single thing on the planet to give them guidance about how to best create a government that would not only govern effectively, but most importantly, would protect the freedoms and individual rights of the American citizens because they were very concerned that they didn't want another king or some sovereign that would take away rights in the name of public safety or, you know, to just take over because of control.
00:21:52.000So the founding fathers codified the right to bear arms, which is a pre-existing right, right?
00:21:57.000The Second Amendment, right to keep and bear arms, does not create anything.
00:22:01.000It simply memorializes a preexisting right to self-defense, a preexisting right to keep and bear arms.
00:22:08.000Now, we know that arms is the best way to protect humans, human lives, and human freedom away from evil.
00:22:17.000Evil has been with us since Cain killed Abel.
00:22:22.000Remember, the founding fathers, when they talked about the adoption of the Constitution, specifically said that if men were angels, there would be no need for government.
00:22:33.000The point of government is to protect our fundamental human rights, including against those who are criminals and evildoers.
00:22:39.000Now, there's a very important philosopher that the founding fathers look to extensively that doesn't get nearly enough credit.
00:22:46.000And I've written extensively about this Italian Enlightenment philosopher by the name of Cesar Beccaria.
00:22:52.000He literally wrote, he literally wrote in his book that the Founding Fathers read and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams wrote down that any kind of gun control or arms control does absolutely nothing to stop criminals and bad people from doing bad things to good people.
00:23:08.000It only makes it easier to target good people in the law abiding.
00:23:13.000That was Cesar Beccaria, a philosopher who literally wrote what I just said before the adoption of the Second Amendment.
00:23:20.000It's not an NRA slogan from the 21st century.
00:23:22.000It's actually a philosopher from the 18th.
00:23:25.000And the Founding Fathers understood this when they wrote the Second Amendment.
00:23:27.000And of course, we know from our lived experience today that the best way to thwart evildoers is with guns, which is why we protect our royal elites at the coronation with guns.
00:23:39.000We protect our political elites like Joe Biden with guns.
00:23:42.000We protect Times Square with police officers carrying AR-15 style firearms.
00:23:47.000We protect our financial elites with guns and so on and so on.
00:23:50.000The only people the left doesn't want protected with guns are the ordinary American citizen because they don't want us to be citizens.
00:23:56.000They really want us to be serfs or subjects at the end of the day.
00:25:03.000Greg Abbott, the governor, is sick and demented.
00:25:06.000He has literally done nothing because they are so in love with guns and so in love with the Second Amendment crowd that they do not care to see bodies piled up on the sidewalk.
00:25:56.000Well, when people commit violent crimes or they misbehave, they should be put in prison, right?
00:26:01.000But the one thing we do not do about constitutional rights is we do not punish the millions of Americans that lawfully own firearms because of the misconduct or the misuse of a handful of psychopaths.
00:26:13.000At the end of the day, if Americans do not like the right to keep and bear arms, they have an option.
00:26:19.000They can try to amend the Constitution using Article 5.
00:26:23.000Remember, the Constitution has been amended 27 times in American history.
00:26:30.000The reason why it's not doable is because Americans overwhelmingly support the right to keep and bear arms, especially now more than ever before, because all of these tragedies basically teach us one thing, that when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
00:26:46.000The police are not able to protect us, whether it be in the 2020 riots of the summer, whether it be in the post-Katrina, you know, after a catastrophe like post-Katrina, where the civil authorities can't show up.
00:26:58.000The reality is, no matter how earnest police officers are, the government is not going to be able to protect you, which means you are your own first responder.
00:27:06.000And again, there's nothing that's gone on in American life that suggests that the wisdom of the founding fathers is not accurate, which is the most important thing is to have armed citizens to thwart all forms of tyranny, which I talk about in my book about Ukraine, which it's interesting that the anti-gun left in America wants to take guns away from us and give them the Ukrainian citizens.
00:27:26.000But what's the point of the guns in Ukraine?
00:27:28.000It's to thwart a form of tyranny no different than what we have here in America.
00:27:31.000You're making a great point, and actually two great points.
00:27:34.000One is, you know, we love the hunters.
00:29:40.000People use all sorts of means to kill other people.
00:29:43.000And the government is realistically not in a position to protect you most of the time.
00:29:48.000We got to keep in mind, though, that this is the one cultural issue that the conservatives have been tremendously successful in and are on the march.
00:29:55.000I think there's many reasons for that.
00:29:57.000One, of course, is that you have a Second Amendment that's actually in the text of the Constitution that says we have the right to keep and bear arms.
00:30:03.000Then you have a Supreme Court, thanks to President Trump's nominations of three justices.
00:30:08.000And when people ask me, what has Donald Trump done for the Second Amendment?
00:30:11.000I say Neil Gorses, Amy Coney Barrett, and Brett Kavanaugh, who made up the majority in the Bruin case that, of course, re-vindicated the right to keep and bear arms just last year.
00:30:21.000So you have a Second Amendment that's being robustly defended by the courts now, including the Supreme Court.
00:30:25.000And then as a practical matter, we now have today 27.
00:30:43.000And that number just, you know, we just added Nebraska and Florida.
00:30:46.000So obviously, when it comes to the states, the gun issue is a winning one.
00:30:51.000And you see where the anti-gun, and I talk about this quite frequently, the anti-gun movement is doubling down in the states that they control all the organs of government.
00:30:59.000So they're doubling down and going crazy with gun control in New York, California, Oregon, Washington, these places where they control all facets of government.
00:31:10.000And they're not really making headway on offense.
00:31:12.000They're just doubling down in the home territories that they control.
00:31:14.000But they're in retreat all across America because even in those states, a lot of those have already been enjoined or at risk of being enjoined and thwarted by courts that are enforcing the Second Amendment against that massive resistance we're seeing in certain blue states that don't like guns.
00:31:29.000Well, you know, you bring up the Supreme Court, and last week, obviously, we saw this massive attack on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
00:31:36.000There's been other attacks on Neil Gorsuch.
00:31:39.000Then, meanwhile, we find out that Soda Mayor is guilty of not recusing herself from Penguin Random House cases in which Penguin Random House was at risk of losing millions and millions of dollars in copyrights.
00:31:56.000So, I mean, there's this whole battle here.
00:31:59.000And we always say, don't listen to the noise, get above the noise.
00:32:29.000Well, yes, remember, going all the way back to Greco-Roman times, there are three essential components to being a citizen and not a serf.
00:32:36.000That is the right to have property, that is the right to vote, and it is the right to have firearms, or I should say, the right to have arms to be able to defend yourself.
00:32:45.000If you don't have those three essential components of being a citizen, the right to arms, the right to property, and the right to vote, you're a serf.
00:32:52.000The left in America, as far as I can tell, doesn't want us to be citizens, and they certainly want us to disarm.
00:32:59.000It's a lot easier to bully people when they're disarmed, as we see all across the country.
00:33:05.000Or I should say all across the world, but I should say that the Ukraine thing, as I write about in my book, Disarmed, really does illustrate the importance of an armed citizenry.
00:33:12.000Because 10 years ago, the Ukrainians had an opportunity to adopt the Second Amendment and give themselves the right to bear arms.
00:33:32.000Thanks, everybody, for listening to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:33:35.000Again, that is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, filling in for Charlie while he is on some much-needed RR break.