The Charlie Kirk Show - January 22, 2024


The J6 Pipe Bomb Narrative Blows Up


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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, an entire hour with Darren Beattie.
00:00:02.000 You're going to want to listen to this episode over and over again.
00:00:05.000 Take notes.
00:00:06.000 It's the full episode about the pipe bombs.
00:00:09.000 We analyze it from every angle.
00:00:11.000 It is some breaking news regarding the pipe bombs that were discovered on January 6th.
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00:01:35.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie.
00:01:38.000 Darren Beattie from Revolver.news.
00:01:39.000 Darren, there is some massive breaking news on the pipe bomb this weekend.
00:01:44.000 It went mega viral.
00:01:47.000 Your tweet, I want to make sure that I see this.
00:01:49.000 It's been viewed 11 million times.
00:01:52.000 Darren, you know that I have had this fixation, this obsession with pipe bombs.
00:01:58.000 It's been the one that I have not let go of.
00:02:02.000 Darren, we have you for the full hour.
00:02:04.000 So I want you to go through the details, build out the case.
00:02:07.000 You are not in a rush.
00:02:08.000 Everybody, I hope you understand.
00:02:10.000 This is the hour where if you listen to the whole thing, you look at all the evidence that begins to unwind exactly what happened on January 6th.
00:02:20.000 So Darren, the floor is yours.
00:02:22.000 Please comprehensively and thoroughly walk us through it.
00:02:25.000 Happy to be happy to do so and very happy to be here with you, Charlie.
00:02:30.000 So there's a lot to cover, and I want to make sure we do it effectively and methodically.
00:02:38.000 So I think the best way would be just to start with the mega viral thread that you mentioned.
00:02:44.000 And I can provide a bit of context for what this is before we actually view it.
00:02:50.000 It is Capitol Police footage of the discovery of the pipe bomb by the DNC building.
00:02:59.000 And readers' audience might recall that there were two pipe bombs.
00:03:04.000 One is often referred to as the RNC bomb.
00:03:07.000 That was the one that was first discovered.
00:03:09.000 This video footage we're going to see right now is the footage of that second pipe bomb planted right by a bench outside of the DNC building, the discovery of that at approximately 1.05 p.m.
00:03:24.000 So because this footage is so explosive, I think the best way to approach things is to work through that first.
00:03:33.000 Would you like us to wait for you?
00:03:34.000 We have a cut here.
00:03:35.000 We could do that.
00:03:36.000 And we don't need to watch the full seven minutes, but if we track more or less the thread that I did, I think we can cover, we can cover everything adequately.
00:03:47.000 But just a quick, a quick further note about how this footage came to the public.
00:03:52.000 Now, there have been a few stalwarts who've been working with us at Revolver.news to really bring this pipe bomb story to its full conclusion.
00:04:06.000 And one of those is Thomas Massey, who's taken our research and taken it to the next level by using our research as a pressure point to push for the release of some of this footage.
00:04:17.000 Now, there's been so much conversation about Speaker Johnson and the 40,000 hours that he's promised.
00:04:24.000 And there's been media cycles about certain footage released about the Capitol Police doing the flare bombs and all of that.
00:04:32.000 And all that's important.
00:04:34.000 But it's important to note also that those things don't advance our understanding, January, because we've already had footage of the Capitol Police attacking the protesters.
00:04:46.000 We've already had footage of the Capitol Police opening the doors sometimes for the crowd to come in.
00:04:52.000 We've already had footage that contravenes the notion that everyone was just violent and crazy in the Capitol.
00:04:59.000 That's important to see.
00:05:01.000 It's important to reinforce our understanding, but we already have that type of footage.
00:05:07.000 Whereas this footage from the Capitol Police is groundbreaking and actually advances our understanding of one of the most sensitive aspects of what I've come to call the Fed surrection.
00:05:19.000 Actually, Massey had to put tremendous pressure on people, including Kevin McCarthy.
00:05:25.000 And ultimately, he was able to get this seven-minute clip released to the public.
00:05:30.000 And you'll see why this is such a big deal right now as I begin to describe it.
00:05:36.000 So we'll put the B-roll up.
00:05:38.000 So as you're going here, we're going to have accompanying B-roll.
00:05:41.000 So please continue, Darren.
00:05:42.000 Guys, start playing the clip here.
00:05:43.000 I don't know if you can see it, Darren, or not, but let's start playing it, guys.
00:05:47.000 Darren, please continue.
00:05:48.000 Okay, so the time stamp also corresponds to the timing of the day.
00:05:52.000 So we see 1.05 p.m.
00:05:54.000 You notice there's an individual who walks up to an SUV.
00:05:57.000 That's a Metro PD SUV.
00:06:00.000 He's talking the window at the driver's side.
00:06:03.000 Eventually he'll loop around to the other side of the vehicle, talk a little bit more.
00:06:08.000 And then finally, he'll go to the black SUV and talk with them a little bit.
00:06:14.000 So what are those cars?
00:06:15.000 Well, the white car is a Metro PD SUV, but it's actually there in the capacity of working with the Secret Service detail.
00:06:23.000 So the Black C is Secret Service.
00:06:26.000 The Metro PD is working as Secret Service.
00:06:29.000 You know, sometimes local police join the motorcades for secret service.
00:06:34.000 And that's what that is here.
00:06:36.000 The protectee in this instance, and this will be important later, happens to be then VP-elect Kamala Harris.
00:06:44.000 So after this individual informs these two cars of the presence of the pipe bomb, and here he's walking out of frame right here toward the right here.
00:06:54.000 He just walked out of frame.
00:06:55.000 He just informed those guys of the pipe bomb.
00:06:58.000 Now, the first thing that's kind of strange is it's going to take them over a minute to even get out of the car after having been informed of a pipe bomb within feet of them and within feet of their protectee.
00:07:13.000 That alone is kind of strange to see them wait over a minute to even get out of the car.
00:07:18.000 Once they get out of the car, you'll see them lounging about in the most bizarrely lackadaisical fashion imaginable, given the circumstances.
00:07:28.000 Again, does this look like how a secret service of the United States would react to the information that there is a pipe bomb, potentially live explosive device, within feet of them, within feet of passersby, and within feet of their protectee, who is the VP-elect?
00:07:48.000 They're just lounging around out without a care in the world.
00:07:53.000 This remarkable lack of concern reaches its conclusion in a group of children crossing the street right in the direction of the bomb.
00:08:02.000 And look at that.
00:08:03.000 They're standing around like it's nothing.
00:08:05.000 They allow that group of kids to walk, you know, probably no more than 15 feet away from the bomb, and they themselves are lounging about.
00:08:13.000 So there's an incredible lack of concern for the children's safety, for their own safety, and for the safety of their protectee, Kamala Harris, that shows that either they're the most negligent and detail in the world that violates protocol, that don't even care about their own safety, or more likely, they knew that the bomb was fake.
00:08:39.000 They knew that the bomb was inert.
00:08:40.000 They knew the bomb was a dud.
00:08:42.000 But then the question arises: how did they know it was a dud?
00:08:47.000 Now, are these local DC police or are these federal law enforcement secret service?
00:08:52.000 Can you just?
00:08:52.000 Well, this is a combination of Capitol Police, Metro PD, and Secret Service.
00:08:59.000 Now, if we go back to the video, we'll see that after they allow that group of children to cross the street and get within feet of the pipe bomb, the last relevant thing here is we're going to see a Capitol Police officer then walk right up to the bomb and take a picture of it.
00:09:18.000 So, this is the clip of the children walking by.
00:09:22.000 And shortly thereafter, somewhere in the 110-minute mark, we're going to see a Capitol Police officer walk up to the bomb, take a picture.
00:09:32.000 He's going to give a thumbs up sign, and then they're going to move more quickly than we've ever seen them before and get the heck out of there.
00:09:40.000 So, we'll hopefully we can see that clip.
00:09:43.000 That's that's in the thread as well.
00:09:45.000 So, once you find it, um, it would be good for the audience to see that.
00:09:50.000 But, yes, that's the final clip.
00:09:53.000 We have a Capitol Police officer walking right up to it, taking a picture.
00:09:57.000 He gives a thumbs up sign like that and leaves the frame.
00:10:02.000 They all scramble about, they leave.
00:10:05.000 Again, this is the most quickest they've moved in the whole thing to get out of there after the guy took a picture.
00:10:12.000 And then the video stops.
00:10:14.000 But I can say something pretty bizarre that happens after this footage ends, just minutes after is the authorities get a bomb-safe robot to then diffuse and dismantle this pipe bomb.
00:10:32.000 This is the bomb that they exhibited zero concern for themselves, zero concern for their protectee, Kamala Harris, zero concern for the children that they allowed to walk right by it without a warning in the world.
00:10:46.000 And yet, it all of a sudden becomes so dangerous after they've taken this photo of it and the initial detail left.
00:10:53.000 It all of a sudden becomes so dangerous.
00:10:55.000 It requires there, he is taking a picture.
00:10:57.000 Look at this.
00:10:58.000 See that?
00:10:59.000 Snaps the photo.
00:11:00.000 He's going to give thumbs up.
00:11:01.000 Then he leaves.
00:11:02.000 That's what I was just talking about.
00:11:03.000 Then they all scramble and get out of Dodge, basically.
00:11:06.000 Look at how quickly they're moving.
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00:13:07.000 Darren, please continue.
00:13:09.000 So I think we've concluded our survey of this footage.
00:13:14.000 So the real take-home smoking gun here is that these Secret Service authorities are informed of a pipe bomb, an explosive device that was later reported to be a live explosive device with live explosives.
00:13:31.000 They're informed of this within feet of them.
00:13:33.000 They exhibit zero concern for their own safety, for the safety of passersby on foot, including a group of children that they let walk right in front of it, and including their protectee, who is Kamala Harris.
00:13:47.000 Then we see a Capitol police officer walk up to the bomb within feet of it, take a picture, give a thumbs up sign, and then they all leave.
00:13:58.000 Now, as I was saying after the video concludes, there's more to this footage that I have sources who have seen this footage of the dismantling of this pipe bomb by a bomb-safe robot, which lends an interesting question that they're so unconcerned after being informed of it, for themselves standing within feet of it, walking right up to it, taking a picture, not being concerned about their protectee, Kamala Harris,
00:14:26.000 and they let kids walk right by it.
00:14:28.000 And yet, all of a sudden, it becomes so dangerous that it requires a bomb-safe robot to dismantle.
00:14:36.000 That doesn't really make any sense.
00:14:39.000 And so, that I think alone, as a self-contained bit of analysis, is explosive and elevates to the level of a national scandal.
00:14:49.000 They were clearly unconcerned with this.
00:14:51.000 They clearly knew that the bomb was a dud.
00:14:54.000 Now, the question is: how did they know that it was a dud?
00:14:58.000 Now, some additional context here that I think is very useful.
00:15:04.000 So, we've been talking about the Secret Service detail, and we mentioned briefly that their protectee was Kamala Harris, who is the then VP-elect.
00:15:16.000 Kamala Harris covered up the fact that she was in the DNC building on January 6th for almost a year.
00:15:24.000 And she didn't reveal it.
00:15:26.000 It actually leaked from another source, but she kept it secret for almost a year.
00:15:31.000 She still hasn't acknowledged her presence there.
00:15:34.000 Now, this is really weird.
00:15:37.000 Think about this: Kamala Harris is one of the most politically opportunistic creatures on the planet.
00:15:46.000 Why would she forego the opportunity to milk politically the fact that she came within a hair's width of losing her life to the domestic terrorist MAGA pipe bomb?
00:16:00.000 So, think about it.
00:16:00.000 And one more point about Joe Biden, who gave a major, you know, January 6th is a major pillar of the Democrats' 2024 strategy.
00:16:11.000 Joe Biden gave a long, droned-out speech on the third anniversary of how horrible January 6th was.
00:16:19.000 Think of how weird it is that he neglected to mention that his own VP almost lost her life to the January 6th pipe bomb.
00:16:29.000 Now, think of how damning and embarrassing the truth has to be for them to cover that up, given what their political interest would be in rhetorically milking it.
00:16:43.000 Yeah, you could just see Joe Biden, you know, bumbling through it.
00:16:46.000 And the MAGA Republicans, they tried to kill my vice president by putting a pipe bomb at the DNC.
00:16:54.000 And we will never let that happen.
00:16:55.000 I mean, that's the best talking point of them all, right?
00:16:58.000 If it was true.
00:17:00.000 I mean, you would think that it was true.
00:17:02.000 But even if it was false and they thought they could easily lie, but for some reason, they never wanted the public to pay attention to the fact that she was at the DNC.
00:17:13.000 And now I think we know why.
00:17:14.000 After looking at this footage, the Secret Service clearly knew the bombs were fake.
00:17:19.000 And they don't want people asking why they were fake.
00:17:22.000 Now, let's get deeper into this rabbit hole.
00:17:24.000 We just saw how weird it was and how they react to being informed.
00:17:28.000 But let's step back and say they didn't find the bomb in the first place.
00:17:32.000 That bomb was planted the evening before at around 8 o'clock p.m.
00:17:37.000 It was sitting out there fairly conspicuously for over 17 hours, undiscovered by motorists, undiscovered by passers-by pedestrians.
00:17:47.000 It was very high-foot traffic day on the sixth, undiscovered by them, undiscovered by a regularly stationed security guard that we proved in earlier reporting who's regularly stationed at that parking garage, and undiscovered by the Secret Service itself, which is on record as having conducted a sweep.
00:18:05.000 So it's so bizarre that it was sitting out there for that long, undiscovered, that we actually did an investigation into the footage to confirm whether or not it was indeed planted when they said it was.
00:18:18.000 And sure enough, we proved, this was over a year ago, we proved that the FBI is withholding footage from the camera whose angle would definitively show whether or not it was planted when they said it was.
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00:19:33.000 So, Darren, I have a very specific question here.
00:19:35.000 I want to go through a timeline question.
00:19:37.000 So, I was hosting live, a live broadcast as January 6th was occurring.
00:19:42.000 And I was, at the time, I was subscribed to push notifications.
00:19:48.000 And I remember I received a push notification news alert from either Fox or CNN or whatever about pipe bombs being discovered even before it was clear what was happening at the Capitol.
00:20:00.000 So I want you to help me from what we know.
00:20:03.000 How did it go from Laxada's call?
00:20:05.000 I walk by a pipe bomb, no big deal.
00:20:07.000 Why, you know, don't care about Kamala Harris.
00:20:09.000 Kids can walk by.
00:20:11.000 to the robot to then leaking it to news agencies.
00:20:16.000 Was it that really doesn't make any sense?
00:20:18.000 Because if it really was not that big of a deal, then how did it make its way to the media?
00:20:24.000 Did somebody seize on it to say, oh my goodness, we can make it a bigger deal by going to the media.
00:20:30.000 Can you walk the timeline?
00:20:31.000 Because I'm missing that.
00:20:34.000 Yes, the timeline is absolutely critical.
00:20:37.000 And once you understand the timeline, you understand how impossible the official story is.
00:20:42.000 So let's walk through it.
00:20:44.000 And as I said, let's go deeper into the rabbit hole.
00:20:46.000 Your audience members, listen carefully.
00:20:50.000 You're going to be blown away here.
00:20:52.000 So we analyzed the video of the DNC pipe bomb discovery.
00:20:57.000 I mentioned the interesting fact that that bomb was planted the evening before at around eight o'clock.
00:21:05.000 It had been sitting there for over 17 hours, fairly conspicuously at the park bench.
00:21:12.000 It was a very high foot traffic day.
00:21:14.000 None of the people walking by saw it in that 17 hours.
00:21:18.000 No motorists saw it.
00:21:20.000 It was so high foot traffic, there's a scooter positioned there so people can rent the scooters.
00:21:25.000 No scooter users saw it.
00:21:27.000 We proved in an earlier story that there was a regularly stationed DNC security guard no more than 10 feet away from where the bomb was planted.
00:21:35.000 That security guard did not see it.
00:21:38.000 And then, as the whopper, the Secret Service of the United States, same Secret Service that was utterly unconcerned when informed of the bomb, missed it initially and astonishingly in their sweep of the area prior to Kamala Harris's entering the building.
00:21:54.000 The story of this bomb sitting out there so conspicuously and undiscovered for over 17 hours is so bizarre and so implausible that our researchers at Revolver.news looked into the question of whether or not the bomb was actually planted the evening before when the FBI says it was.
00:22:12.000 And as I mentioned a little bit before the break, we discovered some remarkable things.
00:22:18.000 One, we proved definitively that the FBI is withholding footage from the camera whose angle would show whether or not the person actually planted the bomb when he said it was.
00:22:30.000 They're withholding this.
00:22:31.000 That's a fact.
00:22:32.000 They've offered no explanation for that.
00:22:34.000 Secondly, we've shown that the footage released by the FBI was tampered with.
00:22:40.000 Namely, the frame rate on the footage is a measly 1.6 frames per second.
00:22:46.000 That's unheard of in commercially available security cameras.
00:22:50.000 If you go on a road trip and stop at the most dilapidated podunk gas station in the country, that gas station is going to have a surveillance camera with eight frames per second because that's the lowest commercially available frame rate.
00:23:04.000 The idea that the DNC headquarters would have to have gone to an antique shop to find a camera with such a poor frame rate is completely absurd, as is the notion and the fact that the only footage that the FBI will present to the public of that pipe bomber at those benches is footage that is DNC footage.
00:23:27.000 So we have these anomalies with the DNC security footage.
00:23:31.000 We have these anomalies with the Secret Service being informed of it and unconcerned.
00:23:36.000 We have the anomaly of Kamala Harris actively covering up her presence there in spite of all of her political interests.
00:23:44.000 And the story's just getting started.
00:23:48.000 Let's look for a moment at the RNC bomb because that's really going to be the thing that ties this all together.
00:23:56.000 And it gets to the timeline question you asked.
00:23:59.000 The RNC bomb was the first bomb discovered.
00:24:03.000 Now, in truth, it's not really the RNC bomb.
00:24:06.000 It's only come to be called that.
00:24:08.000 It's a kind of retroactive fiction, this parallelism between an RNC and DNC bomb.
00:24:15.000 In fact, the RNC bomb was really a bomb discovered behind a trash can in a back alley by the Capitol Hill Club.
00:24:23.000 There's no reason that anyone would associate this bomb with the RNC other than after the DNC bomb being discovered, they say, oh, well, DNC, RNC, it makes sense.
00:24:33.000 It's a fake parallelism.
00:24:36.000 So the RNC bomb, just like the DNC one was planted the evening before, it was discovered on January 6 at 1240 p.m. by a random pedestrian, we're told, called Carlin Younger.
00:24:52.000 Carlin Younger discovers this at 12.40.
00:24:55.000 She goes and informs a security officer in the Capitol Hill Club, who happens to have been a veteran of the Capitol Police.
00:25:03.000 And then the Capitol Police began responding to this initial bomb at 12.50 p.m. 1250, just three minutes prior to the initial and decisive assault on the West Primeter of the Capitol, in which Ray Epps was infamously involved, just three minutes before.
00:25:24.000 That's remarkable timing.
00:25:25.000 Furthermore, astonishing detail.
00:25:28.000 Carlin Younger reports that when she discovered that first bomb at 1240 p.m., it had a mechanical timer on it that had 20 minutes left on the dial.
00:25:40.000 So let's do the math on that.
00:25:42.000 She finds it at 1240 and it was stuck on that dial at 20 minutes.
00:25:47.000 She discovers it at 1240.
00:25:49.000 It has 20 minutes left.
00:25:51.000 1240 plus 20 minutes is one o'clock, exactly when the certification of the vote proceeding was to begin.
00:25:58.000 So when she discovered it, it was to the exact minute as to convey the impression that it was set to go off at one o'clock.
00:26:07.000 Now let's take a step back and digest just how infinitesimally implausible this account is.
00:26:15.000 We're led to believe that this first bomb planted the evening before was sitting behind a trash can in a back alley for over 16 hours.
00:26:30.000 And then it was discovered randomly to the exact minute as to be synchronized both with the certification proceeding and with the initial assault on the Capitol.
00:26:45.000 That is very difficult to believe.
00:26:48.000 In fact, the synchronicity of the discovery of that first bomb was so profound and so unbelievable that the former head of the Capitol Police, head of the Capitol Police on January 6,
00:27:03.000 had the theory that these bombs were planted not to go off, but as a diversionary tool to divert resources away from that assault on the Capitol that unfolded at 1253.
00:27:20.000 Now, this has additional plausibility because again, this is also a major Revolver.news report.
00:27:26.000 We've been on this for years.
00:27:28.000 One of our major reports was exploring the implications of the fact that there was a mechanical timer that had at most an hour on it.
00:27:37.000 If there's a mechanical timer with at most an hour on it, and the bombs were planted the evening before, the latest that they could have possibly have gone off would be 9:30, 10 p.m. on January 5th in a back alley somewhere, amounting to a complete dud.
00:28:01.000 What actually happened was they never went off, but they were discovered with perfect synchronicity with the attack on the Capitol the next day.
00:28:11.000 And in fact, the DNC bomb was discovered at 1.05, scarcely 15 minutes after the first one was discovered.
00:28:22.000 So these two bombs are sitting out there for 16 to 17 hours, and yet miraculously both discovered within a narrow 15-minute timeframe, such as to correspond precisely with the unfolding of the attack on the Capitol.
00:28:38.000 Discovered after people walk by them lackadaisically.
00:28:41.000 Right.
00:28:43.000 Discovered, and think about this.
00:28:46.000 If they had been discovered earlier, this could have foiled the whole diversionary plot because you discover it too early, then authorities say, oh my God, there are bombs around here, and they could very well enhance security around the Capitol.
00:29:04.000 If you discover it too late, it's too late.
00:29:06.000 And so to have this ostensible diversionary effect, you have to discover it within a pretty narrow window corresponding precisely to the unfolding of that first attack on the Capitol.
00:29:20.000 That all makes sense up to the point, but the only question here is, how did the pipe bomber count on these two bombs sitting there undiscovered for 16, 17 hours and then count on them being discovered within a 15-minute window timeframe that they would have to be discovered in order to have the desired diversionary effect?
00:29:46.000 How could this pipe bomber have counted on one, Carlin Younger, a random pedestrian, we're told, to discover the first pipe bomb at 1240, such that the Capitol police are responding to it three minutes before the attack on the Capitol.
00:30:03.000 And the DNC bomb, as I mentioned, evading discovery for over 17 hours, including invading discovery of the Secret Service, such as to conveniently be discovered, quote unquote, by a person we now know to be a plain clothes Capitol police officer at 105, scarcely 15 minutes after the first one is discovered.
00:30:25.000 And then, you know, miraculously, again, the Capitol, the Secret Service somehow knows that it's a dud.
00:30:33.000 That makes zero sense.
00:30:36.000 Or does it make perfect sense?
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00:31:32.000 The hour has just sped by.
00:31:34.000 Sum it all up and contextualize it.
00:31:36.000 Please finish the thought.
00:31:37.000 This was, I mean, there's just so much here.
00:31:39.000 So, for the full account, just go to the site revolver.news.
00:31:42.000 But you asked me about the FBI.
00:31:43.000 There's this guy, Stephen D'Antuono, who's the public head of the pipe bomb investigation.
00:31:48.000 He now retired.
00:31:49.000 He's working at KPMG as an accountant.
00:31:52.000 Mysteriously, and I was shocked when this happened, he volunteered himself to the Judiciary Committee to answer questions in his retirement.
00:31:59.000 And Thomas Massey compiled some questions based on our reporting on the pipe bomb issue.
00:32:05.000 And effectively, he was a guilty conscience.
00:32:08.000 His body language was racked with nervous and guilty energy.
00:32:13.000 He had a guilty conscience, and he couldn't have any answer for any of the questions pertaining to the corruption of the surveillance footage and this or that.
00:32:22.000 Some of the highlights, though, he was asked whether or not the FBI used geofencing technology to identify this pipe bomber because it's a perfect setup.
00:32:32.000 We have the exact location, we know the time, and there weren't a bunch of people around.
00:32:37.000 It was just the pipe bomber, perfectly teed up for a geofencing identification.
00:32:44.000 And keep in mind, the feds have used geofencing to identify a bunch of J-Sixers up to this date.
00:32:51.000 His response: this, we wrote this up when it happened.
00:32:54.000 It was amazing.
00:32:55.000 His response, he got super uncomfortable when asked this.
00:32:59.000 He said, Yes, we did try to use geofencing to identify the pipe bomber, but the telecom company in question came back to us and said, For this specific time and this specific date, our data is corrupted.
00:33:13.000 And after saying that, he begged the stunned people and judiciary to say, But let's not get into any conspiracy theories, right?
00:33:22.000 Another mind-blowing thing from that interview was he was asked about the people who discovered the pipe bombs.
00:33:30.000 Because remember, as I just went over, the timing is infinitesimally implausible.
00:33:34.000 Just think about the RNC bomb.
00:33:36.000 It was sitting there for 16 hours behind a trash can in a back alley and then remarkably discovered by a woman at 12:40 with 20 minutes on the dial, exactly lined up to one.
00:33:48.000 The Capitol Police start responding to it three minutes before that initial attack on the West Perimeter that Ray Epps was involved in.
00:33:57.000 It's just the probabilities don't add up.
00:34:00.000 And so he was, Stephen D'Antonio was asked about this.
00:34:03.000 He said, Look, as to the person who discovered the DNC bomb, he said, I don't know who this person is, and I don't even know who this if this person was interviewed.
00:34:16.000 Amazing admission from the person who is the head of the investigation.
00:34:21.000 He doesn't even know who the guy is who discovered it at the DNC.
00:34:26.000 So, Darren, I got to cut to the chase.
00:34:27.000 So, what is the working theory?
00:34:29.000 Was this the FBI or Intel agency that did this?
00:34:33.000 What does your gut say?
00:34:34.000 Speculation, I know you don't want to get sued.
00:34:36.000 What is your gut say?
00:34:37.000 This is going to, Charlie, this is going to unravel very quickly in the next couple months.
00:34:42.000 It, I'm 100% certain it was an op.
00:34:45.000 It's going to blow up in their face.
00:34:47.000 And let me just say the reason why this is so important beyond just getting to the truth of January 6th and exonerating this huge lie that's basically worked as a blood libel against MAGA patriots.
00:34:58.000 Yes, it's this.
00:34:59.000 I pointed out, like, one thing, if the Dems weren't interested in it, it would be one thing, but they've made it very clear that the lies behind January 6th are a major pillar of their 2024 strategy.
00:35:11.000 The whole regime right now is temporarily being supported based on the weakening public support that the right wing are a bunch of insurrectionists.
00:35:18.000 Like that, it is the noble, the quote-unquote, noble lie, a noble lie.
00:35:22.000 And this collapses the whole thing.
00:35:25.000 So, you're saying this is an Intel agency operation.
00:35:27.000 What do you mean by an op?
00:35:28.000 Tell the audience what you mean by that.
00:35:30.000 I mean, this was an operation.
00:35:32.000 I couldn't, I don't want to get into a specific agency because there's probably multiple.
00:35:37.000 It could have been one agency that did the op, and it was so sloppy that the FBI discovered it, and the FBI facilitated a cover-up of something that was done by another agency.
00:35:47.000 So, it could be convoluted in that respect, but it was absolutely an operation.
00:35:52.000 It was absolutely a cover-up.
00:35:54.000 And once this comes out, they're going to frantically try to self-contain this to the pipe bomber universe, but that's not going to work because of the timing.
00:36:03.000 The timing is a smoking gun here.
00:36:05.000 The fact that the pipe bombs were discovered in exact synchronicity to that extremely suspect initial attack on the West Pyramid of the Capitol, which we've shown in one of our other classic pieces, was absolutely infiltrated by feds up the wazoo, that peace monument attack.
00:36:24.000 It was all coordinated.
00:36:26.000 The synchronicity is what dams them.
00:36:28.000 So, when this pipe bomb thing comes out, they're going to try to contain it, but the whole house of cards is going to fall.
00:36:34.000 It's going to be a whole dimension of Jerry.
00:36:38.000 They did this.
00:36:38.000 They made J6 an equivalent of 9-11.
00:36:40.000 And so, this thing is going to explode.
00:36:42.000 Darren, you deserve such credit.
00:36:44.000 You have stayed on the story for years, and it's about to get really, really big.
00:36:49.000 Pulitzer Prize-level investigation.
00:36:52.000 Darren, great job.
00:36:53.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:36:56.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:58.000 Email us as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:01.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:37:02.000 God bless.
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