Turning Point USA is the largest pro-American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. And yet there's a disturbing story coming out of Washington, D.C., where a man has been discovered with explosives.
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00:01:09.000All right, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000This is Andrew Colvet, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff, our not-so-secret secret weapon.
00:01:26.000So I want to start with just a praise report from last night at Montana State University, where the Turning Point tour, we call it This Is the Turning Point campus tour, had its next stop.
00:01:45.000This is not a population center, Blake.
00:01:48.000And the amount of energy in this room was so extraordinary.
00:01:53.000They were chanting, they were jumping up and down.
00:01:55.000And then Vivek Ramaswamy left his campaign in Ohio, by the way, where he's attempting to be the next governor of the state of Ohio to come speak with our students, which just, again, shows the amount of commitment that the friends in the movement have for what we're doing at Turning Point.
00:03:55.000What we need to make this about is the what.
00:03:58.000And that is the fact that we are back on campus, that we're talking about the ideas, we're dialoguing with students, we're dialoguing about the fact that we should be having a dialogue, that we should not be using violence, that we should not be using political violence, that we need to call that out and basically root it out, root and stem from this country because we're seeing these very disturbing trends.
00:04:24.000And that's what Turning Point is all about.
00:04:35.000We've always been about having the conversation because that's what America is supposed to be about.
00:04:39.000And yet there's this really disturbing story that's coming out of Washington, D.C., where a man is targeting, has been discovered with explosives.
00:05:01.000It's like a very formal thing that it's like a Catholic mass that's sort of dedicated to lawyers, which it's already a scary thing, you know, religious rituals and lawyers.
00:05:23.000And then a lot of other Catholic lawyers will attend it as well.
00:05:26.000And so this man, Louis Gary, 41 years old, he apparently was in a tent in front of the church when police arrived to clear the area because there were going to be a bunch of Supreme Court justices there.
00:05:40.000And then this guy clearly doesn't seem to have it all right, be all right in the head because he's just got a tent in front of this church.
00:05:47.000And then when the police approach, he says, get away.
00:06:03.000And it appears he was basically making homemade Molotov cocktail type things.
00:06:08.000That he told officers that the vials were intended to be used as grenades with rubber bands to secure the fuse, according to court records.
00:06:18.000He was in possession of Molotov cocktails and modified bottle rockets covered with aluminum foil and treated in a pyrotechnic solution.
00:06:26.000The devices appeared fully functional, so it seems.
00:06:30.000He said, you might want to stay back and call the Federales.
00:07:04.000It was a very serious attempt, very serious attempt.
00:07:06.000Flew across the country to do it and then would have done it, except he had a failure of nerve when he saw federal agents outside Kavanaugh's house, turned himself in.
00:07:14.000And then this federal judge says, you know, I feel bad for you because you'd have to go to a men's prison and now you say you're a transgender woman.
00:07:21.000So I'm only going to give you eight years.
00:07:24.000You could be out, you know, three years from now.
00:07:26.000And then when, you know, when even when his own lawyer said, like the judge got angry when someone referred to this as a political attack, because judges aren't political.
00:07:38.000There's no political agenda that could come into play when possibly doing one of these.
00:07:42.000And so, yeah, we're seeing this environment, this environment that people are marinating in because the left has used this, you know, they use the fascist word a lot.
00:07:56.000Anytime there's these rulings related to things like child gender transitions, things like that, they won't say, like, oh, this is a bad ruling.
00:08:06.000They will say they're denying your existence.
00:08:08.000They will say they are trying to destroy your right to exist.
00:08:12.000They're using this totalizing, they're going to kill you rhetoric.
00:08:16.000And loony people are taking that literally.
00:08:18.000Well, and, you know, this is why in the aftermath of what happened to Charlie, it was so important that there was all of these accounts and a major hat tip to libs of TikTok.
00:08:29.000I certainly didn't have the brain space to even do this, but I saw, you know, you go on Twitter, everybody's outing these people celebrating because ultimately that is a culture that's celebrating death, fetishizing political violence.
00:08:42.000And that's why I think it's important that we were trying to get some of these people fired.
00:08:46.000I think that's completely on political assassination.
00:08:51.000Also, though, you need judges to not give leniency to potential assassins.
00:08:57.000This is the direct through line between these two cases: that you have leniency on a potential assassin.
00:09:03.000And then, oh, lo and behold, a week later, this happens, where a guy's sitting outside of where all the justices are going to be with explosives.
00:09:39.000It could have just been, you know, it could have been his Diet Coke.
00:09:41.000One of the all-time great community notes on X. But yeah, I mean, here's the thing.
00:09:47.000We need to make sure that the evildoers are punished.
00:09:49.000We need to make sure the taboo remains in full force, full strength.
00:09:54.000And that's why people getting fired from their jobs is completely appropriate when you celebrate violence, when you act like a vile, ghoulish person, or when you're like Jimmy Kimmel and you try and lie about who's behind a certain attack, and then you're going to double down on it.
00:10:08.000Then, yeah, you deserve consequences and you deserve the backlash.
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00:11:46.000My dad introduced me to Charlie Kirk years ago, and I'm so happy and grateful that he did.
00:11:50.000I started watching Charlie's videos on YouTube and his debates and his college campus tours, and I just fell in love with his enthusiasm that he had to talk to the younger generation.
00:12:00.000He not only knew how to communicate, but he let people tell their side of the story, and he was not afraid of sharing truth.
00:12:07.000I'm very thankful my dad showed me who Charlie Kirk was at such a young age.
00:12:12.000I have a beautiful life, beautiful wife.
00:12:15.000We have a small kitty together, and we are hoping to start a family very soon.
00:12:19.000Every day I see more and more videos of Charlie just saying how much he loved his family, how much he loved Jesus, how much he enjoyed just working and doing everything into the Lord.
00:12:36.000We hope that you, Erica, and the rest of your family and the family at Turning Point USA continue to spread the love of Jesus Christ and to keep on sharing what Charlie's purpose was here on this earth.
00:12:47.000We hope you read this and we know that God's plan is greater than ours.
00:12:51.000Praying for your family and team blessings, Jacob.
00:12:54.000I just thought that was an amazing one.
00:13:38.000And, you know, and you can tell that this guy was like, Charlie helped change Arizona.
00:13:42.000He moved from Chicago to Arizona four years ago and he said, I'm never leaving, partly because of the impact that turning points had in this state.
00:13:49.000But he just, you know, it was just another one of those little things where you realize just how big the reach is.
00:13:55.000And I love what he said, what Jacob said in this email about promoting what Charlie was for.
00:14:01.000And that's what I said last night was such a clarifying moment for me personally because I was like, ah, this is what it's for.
00:14:07.000You know, like we are doing the hard work and our students are the absolute heroes.
00:14:14.000He would always say, these are the tip of the spear.
00:14:16.000They are the brave warriors, these young men and women that are spreading conservative ideas on college campuses where they're oftentimes not welcomed.
00:14:24.000At least they especially used to not be welcomed.
00:14:27.000Now I think we've seized some momentum here and there's more openness to have these debates on campuses.
00:14:33.000But, you know, and then you have all our friends, whether it's Megan or Tucker or Vivek or, you know, Governor Gianforte last night was there.
00:14:40.000We have all these campus stops coming up as well.
00:14:43.000If we want to tell you about them, I probably should tell you about them.
00:14:46.000We've got one at the University of North Dakota.
00:14:49.000I believe that's going to be Glenn Beck.
00:14:51.000Going to be tomorrow, October 9th, University of North Dakota.
00:15:35.000If you live in Tuscaloosa, not that far away.
00:15:37.000Auburn, we're going to have, I think Coach Tuberville is going to be there.
00:15:41.000I believe Benny is going to be at that one and some others.
00:15:44.000It's going to be a really big event at Auburn University on November 5th.
00:15:49.000So this is an amazing moment that we're seeing that the entire movement is galvanized about, you know, and I love it because it's these focusing moments where we get to talk about what we're for.
00:16:01.000And what we're for is exactly what Charlie modeled.
00:16:05.000And exactly what Jacob's email was about.
00:16:15.000The tool is to allow people like Jacob to have a better life, to have a better country and people who are living out their faith, starting families, having those families be safe and successful, and not being poisoned by all the negative things in modernity.
00:16:40.000These are the conservative ideas that bind us together.
00:16:43.000And by the way, they were not welcome in so many of these places until a guy like Charlie Kirk goes in and makes a way for those behind to enjoy these good things that we all believe in and we all support.
00:16:55.000That's what we're going to keep on doing.
00:16:56.000And by the way, the momentum is incredible.
00:16:58.000The momentum is absolutely incredible.
00:17:00.000All these new chapters are getting started.
00:17:02.000And we've got candidates around the country that Charlie endorsed.
00:17:05.000And we're going to have one of them on next, Nate Morris out of Kentucky.
00:17:11.000Hey, everybody, Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:17:15.000Charlie understood that to lead, he needed to learn.
00:17:18.000Hillsdale College was ready to teach him.
00:17:20.000While busy running his company, teaching America's youth, and raising a beautiful family, Charlie still found time to complete 31 Hillsdale College free online courses.
00:17:29.000He talked about it the last time he spoke on his podcast with Hillsdale's president, Dr. Larry Yarn.
00:17:34.000Hillsdale is the cutting edge, and I mean it.
00:17:38.000You are a force of nature, Charlie Kirk.
00:17:40.000One of these days, I'm going to give you an honorary degree.
00:17:42.000That would be the honor of my life, but I got a lot more learning yet to do.
00:17:46.000And I say this: the Hillsdale courses have changed my life.
00:17:48.000Through Hillsdale College's free online courses, Charlie studied the Bible, the classics, the American founding, and through his relentless pursuit of truth, became not only a great American, but a good man.
00:17:59.000Charlie's gone, but his spirit of hard work and lifelong learning carry on.
00:18:02.000Each of us can follow his example and pick up where he left off.
00:18:05.000So learn like Charlie did at charlie for Hillsdale.com.
00:18:30.000So a lot of people are interested in that.
00:18:31.000I believe Gavin Newsom blamed it on global warming.
00:18:34.000But in a big development today, federal authorities have arrested 29-year-old Jonathan Rinderkneck on alleged arson related to starting that fire, they say.
00:18:48.000They claim that he began the fire on New Year's Day, which then it seems like it went out and then it rekindled several days later, basically.
00:19:36.000Let's go ahead and play from the press conference, 92.
00:19:40.000Today, we are announcing the arrest of 29-year-old Jonathan Rindernecht for igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades earlier this year, killing 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over a thousand more buildings.
00:20:02.000It's important to list the toll, right?
00:20:58.000It's so great to be here with you all.
00:21:01.000And Charlie was such an incredible human being, as we all know, an iconic and legendary human being.
00:21:08.000And I had the great fortune of getting to know him as I was launching or beginning to look at the U.S. Senate race in Kentucky.
00:21:17.000I'm a friend of the vice president's, and he had suggested I take a look at the race.
00:21:20.000And part of the work that I started doing was having conversations around MAGA World.
00:21:26.000And Charlie was one of the people that I reached out to and got to know.
00:21:30.000And he was so encouraging and so excited about this race and finally defeating the McConnell Mafia here in Kentucky.
00:21:38.000He knew what a stranglehold Mitch had had on our party, how he'd stabbed the president in the back over and over again and sabotaged his agenda.
00:21:52.000We need someone who's going to stand up and fight like no one's ever fought before in this position.
00:21:58.000And he knew how tough this was going to be.
00:22:00.000And what he said to me was, he said, if you do this, he said, I'm going to come to Kentucky and I'm going to help you launch this because this is how important this race is.
00:22:09.000And he came to Kentucky early in the summer.
00:22:12.000And we had about 1,500 people show up on a Monday morning leading into the 4th of July holiday.
00:22:20.000We had folks, young people, we had grandparents bringing their grandchildren.
00:22:25.000We had construction workers that had taken time off from the job site that had mud on their boots that were showing up.
00:22:30.000I've never seen more electricity in a room than when Charlie filled it that day and launched this campaign.
00:24:12.000So Charlie says the entire Mitch McConnell establishment in Kentucky is pulling out every dirty trick in the book to stop Nate Morris.
00:24:20.000They hate Nate because he supports an immigration moratorium, opposes endless wars, and represents the end of McConnell's control over Kentucky politics.
00:24:28.000And Nate, this is really relevant now because there's this clip that's going viral about one of your opponents in this race, Barr, who has now been caught on camera basically endorsing mass amnesty.
00:24:43.000So explain this dynamic because Charlie was really against the illegal invasion.
00:24:49.000He was really against actually the way we do legal immigration in this country.
00:24:54.000He really found a common cause with you in that.
00:24:57.000So explain what's going on in the state of Kentucky with your opponent.
00:25:00.000Well, Charlie and I talked at length about this crisis facing our country.
00:25:05.000We're in a crisis related to our border, related to mass immigration and mass migration from the third world.
00:25:12.000And Charlie understood this better than anyone.
00:25:14.000And we would often talk, this is a fight for Western civilization.
00:25:18.000This is not just about one political cycle.
00:25:41.000And in 10 years, America is going to be closer to the UK than we would have ever imagined if we don't get tough and we don't stop this amnesty and this flooding of our borders.
00:25:51.000And my opponent, Andy Barr, we call him Amnesty Andy Barr because he is for amnesty across the board.
00:25:58.000And he talked in this clip that he refers to illegals as undocumented.
00:26:03.000I mean, this is the terminology that Democrats use.
00:26:06.000He called me a nativist because I want a full moratorium on any new immigration in our country.
00:26:11.000And if you recall, nativists is what Hillary Clinton called members of the MAGA movement.
00:26:16.000And the same breath, she said, basket of deplorables.
00:26:19.000So this is what I'm up against, but this is the McConnell machine.
00:26:47.000Let's hear what your opponent has to say in his own words, Cut 72.
00:26:51.000What we need in immigration reform is bipartisan.
00:26:53.000We need a bipartisan solution on DACA.
00:26:56.000We do need to fix that situation for young people who are undocumented, who are brought to this country no fault of their own.
00:27:05.000We did provide a, in the bill that I voted for in the Republican Congress, a legalization of that group that provided protection from deportation.
00:27:17.000Okay, so let me just stop you right there.
00:27:19.000Anytime I hear anybody talk about bipartisan immigration reform, I instantly want to learn to learn.
00:27:26.000Yeah, I mean, it's like, you're totally right.
00:27:43.000I mean, look, he is a classic throwback to that old school rhino country club Republican, the people that have run our country off a cliff, these career politicians like Andy Barr.
00:27:55.000And he epitomizes what the McConnell machine has believed.
00:27:58.000Because remember, Mitch McConnell, he goes around Kentucky.
00:28:01.000He talks about all the power that he's had for generations.
00:28:04.000You know, he didn't secure our border.
00:28:33.000Illegals are flooding our system in Kentucky.
00:28:35.000I talked to a county clerk not too long ago.
00:28:38.000They're trying to process 120 languages in Kentucky.
00:28:41.000And just five years ago, it was English and Spanish.
00:28:44.000And now it's 120 languages they're trying to try to process.
00:28:48.000And these illegals are flooding our hospitals, our schools.
00:28:51.000And we talk a lot about protecting Social Security in this campaign.
00:28:56.000We must protect Social Security and Medicare, but we got to start by doing that by kicking every one of these illegals off the system because they've been frauding our system.
00:29:06.000And we know that this is the crux of what this government shutdown was all about.
00:29:13.000And you're right to zero in on it and focus on it because I think you're the only guy in this race that has any credibility on basically the most important political issue of our time, the issue that got President Trump elected.
00:29:26.000And, you know, listen, you're going up against an entire machine that has deep pockets, and they're going to spend it on you.
00:29:34.000Wall Street, these Wall Street buddies from the McConnell machine are spending it against you.
00:29:48.000The Patriots in Kentucky, we need your help.
00:29:50.000The Patriots around the United States, we are up against generations of political cronies, of special interests, of people that want to flood our borders like Andy Barr, Amnesty, Andy Barr.
00:30:12.000It's an honor to have you on the show.
00:30:14.000Charlie was 100% behind your campaign, and we remain steadfastly in the same position.
00:30:20.000So, you know, the machine has got to go.
00:30:24.000We've got a clear house, a clean house.
00:30:26.000In Kentucky, we're never going to get a senator from that state that represents the base and represents what Charlie wanted, what President Trump wants, what we want on this show.
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00:31:54.000We will continue on this mission to read every single email.
00:31:59.000Blake, do we have anything in the email box that you want to float?
00:32:04.000I got a kick out of Jack sent us a suggestion that what causes the bad actors is political psychosis, which he suggested is a combination of heavy weed use, using too much political social media, and playing too many video games.
00:32:17.000I don't know if that's true, but I kind of want it to be true.
00:34:34.000Yeah, you've got it credited appropriately.
00:34:36.000But I think the caption was: Now we know why they wear masks.
00:34:39.000It's like when you see them, you're like, ah.
00:34:42.000You think they'd want to keep them up because they could take off their masks and turn whoever sees them to stone, like Medusa.
00:34:47.000Well, they certainly have some evil powers, but usually it's just, you know, throwing Molotov cocktails at federal authorities.
00:34:54.000But by the way, that story is still going on.
00:34:56.000And, you know, I think if you could find a thread for this hour, it's that we want to be about what we're for.
00:35:04.000Turning point's mission is more important than ever because the taboo against political violence is eroding, which is terrifying, by the way.
00:35:13.000One of the things that I, by the way, that you said yesterday, Blake, that has stood out to me is this idea that there is this incredible incentive, should we lose power at the executive level, to commit violence against Supreme Court justices, especially conservatives?
00:35:30.000I don't really worry about it the other way around because we're just simply not as violent as the left in the modern era.
00:35:36.000However, why that makes sense is because if you have a Democrat president, then they would.
00:35:42.000If the Kavanaugh assassin in 2022 had actually succeeded in going through with it, Joe Biden could have trotted out some left-wing nominee, and Democrats who controlled the Senate could have confirmed that person.
00:35:55.000There is a very direct incentive, and that person would have been able to serve on the court for life.
00:35:59.000I'm just curious: could you, in theory, pass any sort of law that says if you commit, just to take this incentive off the board and say, if somebody is the victim of political assassination, that the sitting president would have to defer the selection to the highest-ranking Republican in D.C. or something.
00:36:19.000Well, you don't want to create incentives the other way either.
00:36:22.000Well, no, I'm just saying that you, yeah, no, but I'm saying, well, that's true.
00:36:43.000So basically, the only option is to put bubble wrap around all of them, give them lots of security, ensure the U.S. Marshals are monitoring their movements.