The Charlie Kirk Show - The Most Conservative Congress in History with Troy Nehls and Liz Wheeler

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00:01:13.000 Currently, there is some rather interesting news happening on the House floor.

00:01:17.000 Mary Miller, Scott Perry, the head of the House Freedom Caucus, Ralph Norman, Anna Paulina Luna, Byron Donalds, Andrew Clyde, Michael Cloud, Josh Bretchen, and Dan Bishop have switched their votes to Kevin McCarthy in this latest round.

00:01:38.000 As I predicted, which came under pretty intense ridicule from some of you that emailed me, this has been a tactic of negotiation.

00:01:53.000 So I think there's anywhere between six to nine holdouts right now.

00:01:59.000 Is that right?

00:02:00.000 I don't know the final number.

00:02:01.000 Somebody said there were as much as 13 holdouts.

00:02:03.000 We don't know.

00:02:04.000 And by holdouts, I mean people that are not going to vote for Kevin McCarthy.

00:02:11.000 But as I predicted earlier in the program, because we have been talking to these patriots that are doing this for quite some time, that their strategy, many of them, some of the strategy is no Kevin, no Kevin, no Kevin, no Kevin, which I understand that many of you are sympathetic with.

00:02:31.000 Other people say don't like Kevin, not my first choice, but also Kevin has 150 to 175 votes baked in.

00:02:40.000 So therefore, let's try to get the most conservative Congress possible.

00:02:45.000 Let's go to this email here.

00:02:47.000 Okay, Charlie, aloha.

00:02:49.000 Hello.

00:02:50.000 Please refresh my memory why we do not want Jim Jordan for speaker.

00:02:54.000 Why is the majority wanting McCarthy?

00:02:56.000 Is it because President Trump, this seems to be like some sign of deal going on?

00:02:58.000 I don't feel secure at this.

00:03:00.000 I would love to have Jim Jordan.

00:03:02.000 Now, in a second, we have Congressman Troy Nells.

00:03:05.000 I want to welcome back, but understand this, that Kevin McCarthy for years traveled the country, raised a bunch of money from big donors, and supported candidates in difficult races.

00:03:21.000 Burgess Owens, Young Kim, many of these people that you have been seen, being seen on there, and in some ways, you have a majority thanks to that.

00:03:30.000 So a lot of them have loyalty to Kevin because Kevin came in with a fair amount of resources to help them out.

00:03:41.000 To build this out further, though, if you are in a competitive race, if you are in a 50-50 type district and you're trying to raise money, and Kevin McCarthy comes in with millions of dollars to support you, then you are more likely than to support him.

00:04:03.000 He's been doing that for many, many years.

00:04:06.000 Now, some of you are saying, you know, Charlie, these people are sellouts.

00:04:09.000 Some of them are sellouts, but some of them are not.

00:04:12.000 I don't think Burgess Owens is a sellout.

00:04:14.000 I don't.

00:04:15.000 I think Burgess Owens is a moderate, decent man.

00:04:19.000 I do.

00:04:20.000 I think Young Kim is a decent person.

00:04:22.000 I think Brian Mast is a decent person.

00:04:25.000 I could name some not-so-decent people that are part of this caucus, especially the ones that voted for impeachment.

00:04:36.000 By the way, Chip Roy has just flipped his vote to Kevin McCarthy.

00:04:40.000 So McCarthy is inching towards becoming Speaker of the House, becoming closer and closer to Speaker of the House.

00:04:48.000 I know that angers a lot of you, but that has been the strategy of these holdouts.

00:04:53.000 Some of them are never Kevin.

00:04:55.000 Some of them are, hey, we want concessions to try to make this the most conservative Congress because there is another part of this, which is Kevin McCarthy has power too.

00:05:08.000 Kevin McCarthy has the loyalty and the support of 120 to 150.

00:05:15.000 It could be 80.

00:05:16.000 We don't know the number of members.

00:05:19.000 Okay, we now have Congressman Troy Nells.

00:05:21.000 Congressman, what are you hearing on the floor?

00:05:24.000 Charlie, it's good to be with you right now.

00:05:26.000 There are seven individuals that have voted for an alternate candidate.

00:05:31.000 Obviously, it was significantly more or less yesterday with 20.

00:05:36.000 So now we're down to seven.

00:05:37.000 So let's see what happens here at the end of this vote.

00:05:40.000 Maybe it'll be eight, maybe it'll be nine.

00:05:41.000 But we've been making progress.

00:05:43.000 And I applaud both sides.

00:05:45.000 I applaud those in the House Freedom Caucus that have been voting against McCarthy.

00:05:50.000 I appreciate the leadership team sitting down with these individuals at a table, having a conversation, you know, breaking bread and trying to work out our differences.

00:06:00.000 So if we're going to come to an agreement, let's get that agreement done.

00:06:03.000 Let's get it done so we can work for the American people.

00:06:07.000 So, Congressman, can you give our audience some peace of mind about what a conservative Congress can do if Kevin McCarthy ends up winning?

00:06:17.000 Some of our audience, they are not convinced.

00:06:19.000 They're not persuaded.

00:06:20.000 They say Kevin is awful.

00:06:22.000 It's terrible.

00:06:23.000 We don't want him.

00:06:24.000 Some of our audience says that it's the same as having Hakeem Jeffries.

00:06:27.000 I don't agree with that.

00:06:28.000 I think that's not correct.

00:06:31.000 Can you walk us through what can we expect?

00:06:34.000 The oversight, the investigations, the checks and balances, the restoration of an actual functioning House of Representatives.

00:06:42.000 Make the case to our audience.

00:06:44.000 I'm going to ask the question.

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:45.000 And I will say this as it relates to, you use the word investigations.

00:06:49.000 You know very well, it's been very clear that Jim Jordan, he wants to get to work on the judiciary, and he wants to have a lot of investigations.

00:06:57.000 We need to investigate Christopher Wray with the FBI.

00:07:00.000 Yes, we do.

00:07:01.000 We need to investigate the DOJ with Garland.

00:07:03.000 We need to look at my OCUS with DOH.

00:07:06.000 We need to have Fauci in front of us.

00:07:08.000 We need to have all those individuals in front of us to ask the questions that have not been asked by this one-party rule under Nancy Pelosi.

00:07:17.000 In addition to that, we have Comer, Representative Comer, who's going to be over oversight government reform, that has had press conferences and said, we are going to investigate Hunter, his laptop, and we know who the big guy is.

00:07:30.000 So I think he has some very sharp, strong conservatives behind him that will help lead with these investigations.

00:07:39.000 As it relates to policy, we have the commitment to America out there.

00:07:43.000 Yes, it needs to be refined a little bit more detail.

00:07:46.000 But I believe when you look at that commitment as it relates to the southern border, which makes me very, very angry because I believe, you know, it's putting the American people last and the American people are suffering, dying from fentanyl.

00:07:58.000 I believe we have a solid plan to secure our southern border.

00:08:02.000 Now, the fiscal irresponsibility with this Congress for the past several years, $31 trillion, and you can't just blame the Democrats for $31 trillion.

00:08:11.000 It's been Republicans also.

00:08:13.000 I believe with Kevin Hearn, and he's been nominated before the Republican Study Committee.

00:08:19.000 We're going to come together and come up with a balanced budget, whether it's seven years, whether it's 10, hell, I don't know.

00:08:25.000 But we're going to conduct some negotiations.

00:08:28.000 And the Freedom Caucus is going to be involved with these conversations because he needs us.

00:08:33.000 He needs us, or he'll understand he won't get anything through this Congress.

00:08:37.000 And, you know, this process angers some people.

00:08:41.000 I actually think in some ways it's proving to be a net positive if it can get done.

00:08:48.000 I really think so much of this is a volcanic eruption response to the $1.7 trillion omnibus bill.

00:08:56.000 I really believe that bill was so awful.

00:08:58.000 It was so insulting.

00:09:00.000 It was a throbbing middle finger to everyday people that a lot of what we're seeing on the House floor is a reaction to that.

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00:10:08.000 Donald Trump Jr. has just tweeted: proud of my conservative friends in the House who just won the best deal the right has ever gotten from Republican leadership.

00:10:17.000 We need to put petty personal disputes aside and do what's best for the movement.

00:10:21.000 This is a transformational deal that will change Congress for the better.

00:10:25.000 Congressman Nels, you are part of the House Freedom Caucus.

00:10:27.000 I'm sure you agree with Donald Trump Jr.

00:10:29.000 There's been some major victories in this kind of, let's just say, multi-day carousel.

00:10:37.000 Yes, I believe there have.

00:10:39.000 And there have been negotiations that have started back in October and November and December.

00:10:46.000 And it relates to really the rules, the House rules.

00:10:50.000 And I believe that many of the recommendations that members of the Freedom Caucus have offered have been accepted.

00:10:58.000 They've been accepted by not only Kevin McCarthy, but by the entire conference.

00:11:03.000 So this is a step in the right direction.

00:11:06.000 I believe that, you know, we had seven now.

00:11:08.000 We're down to seven.

00:11:09.000 I think Leon McCarthy has 214.

00:11:11.000 So we need to come up with four more.

00:11:13.000 And I believe, hopefully, by the end of the day, we will find a way to do that.

00:11:17.000 If not, maybe tomorrow.

00:11:19.000 That's okay.

00:11:19.000 I'll stick around.

00:11:20.000 Maybe get it done tomorrow.

00:11:22.000 And then let's get to work Monday morning.

00:11:24.000 Everybody in America's got to get up at 7 o'clock, go to work.

00:11:27.000 Let's go to work on Monday morning and save this country.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, amen.

00:11:31.000 And boy, the idea of having maybe even a prime time Hearing for Anthony Fauci.

00:11:40.000 Ooh, that would be fun.

00:11:41.000 Okay, you have a book, The Big Fraud.

00:11:44.000 You've been very focused on the January 6th issue, the 1.6 issue.

00:11:47.000 Tell us about it.

00:11:49.000 Well, you know, Leader McCarthy asked me to be one of the five to be on that select committee, you know, Jim Jordan, myself, Jim Banks.

00:11:55.000 And he asked me, I'd have been the only freshman on it, but he's exploited my strength, and that's my law enforcement background in it for 30 years, a sheriff for eight.

00:12:05.000 So I know a little bit about January 6th because I conducted a very thorough investigation into it.

00:12:11.000 And Charlie, what it was, it was a law enforcement failure.

00:12:14.000 Now, the sham committee, Benny Thompson, Liz Cheney, and everyone else on that committee, they're trying to blame Donald Trump.

00:12:20.000 They released their big 840-something page report the other day.

00:12:24.000 Donald Trump's name is mentioned like 4,200 times.

00:12:28.000 But I tell you, most of your viewers obviously have heard the name Ray Epps.

00:12:33.000 Ray Epps should have been arrested.

00:12:35.000 He was on the FBI's most wanted list.

00:12:38.000 He was actually on video trying to incite a riot.

00:12:42.000 It would have been a felony because there was serious bodily injury or death.

00:12:45.000 And he's never been arrested.

00:12:46.000 And so the fact of the matter is, Ray Epps' name was listed zero.

00:12:51.000 His name was mentioned zero times in that report.

00:12:53.000 So I'm looking into it all.

00:12:55.000 I'm going to show, we have showed the American people in my book, The Big Fraud, that it's not Donald Trump's fault.

00:13:01.000 It was a law enforcement failure.

00:13:03.000 And I detail all this in that book.

00:13:07.000 It's the two-year anniversary here.

00:13:09.000 And did you visit the prison yesterday?

00:13:12.000 Is that correct?

00:13:12.000 I mean, somebody sent me a note about that.

00:13:15.000 You did?

00:13:15.000 Is that right?

00:13:17.000 I did.

00:13:17.000 Believe it or not, Charlie, I wanted to get into the prison for several months.

00:13:22.000 In August, I asked for a visit, and finally it took place yesterday morning.

00:13:27.000 I showed up with two of my staffers.

00:13:29.000 It was an entourage there, about 10 of them or so, but I had their attention.

00:13:33.000 I can assure you that.

00:13:35.000 And I spent a good hour and 15 minutes inside that facility.

00:13:38.000 I know a little bit about jails because I ran a large county jail in Fort Penn County, Texas.

00:13:44.000 So I was in there.

00:13:45.000 I had an opportunity.

00:13:46.000 I walked into the cell block with the J-Sixers. 1.00

00:13:49.000 There are 21 of them there.

00:13:50.000 Many of them are there still under pre-trial confinement.

00:13:55.000 They haven't been found guilty of anything.

00:13:57.000 And so we had a casual conversation.

00:14:00.000 Their concerns are obviously their grievances.

00:14:02.000 They're filing grievances.

00:14:04.000 And they say that their grievances are not being heard.

00:14:07.000 They're concerned a little bit about the medical treatment that they've received and obviously religious services.

00:14:13.000 And even a few have expressed concerns over physical assaults that have been taking place in the facility against them by personnel with the police.

00:14:24.000 Congressman Nels, we still do not know the whole story there.

00:14:28.000 Last thing, if Speaker McCarthy pulls this off with concessions, are we going to have a Church and Pike style committee to get the bottom, get to the bottom of what happened on January 6th?

00:14:38.000 I hope so.

00:14:39.000 And I'm going to encourage Leader McCarthy.

00:14:42.000 I mean, I've kind of taken a lead in some of these things.

00:14:44.000 I mean, I believe that their due process inside these J-Sixers, their due process, rights have been violated, that 14th Amendment. 1.00

00:14:52.000 And there are other things.

00:14:53.000 The sham committee, Charlie, never wanted to seek the truth.

00:14:58.000 And the truth is, what are we going to do?

00:15:00.000 We have to identify the problem and make sure that something like this never takes place in our nation's capital again.

00:15:05.000 And the Capitol Police were ill-prepared.

00:15:07.000 They had the intelligence.

00:15:09.000 The leadership of the Capitol Police never shared the intelligence with anybody, and it could have been prevented.

00:15:14.000 And that General Walker, who was the D.C. National Guard commander two years ago, he and I have had a conversation.

00:15:20.000 He said, sir, I agree with you.

00:15:22.000 If the National Guard would have been on our nation's capital on January 4th, like the intelligence suggested, January 6th would have never happened.

00:15:30.000 Congressman Nels, thank you so much.

00:15:32.000 I appreciate it.

00:15:33.000 Thank you.

00:15:34.000 God bless.

00:15:34.000 Thank you.

00:15:35.000 Someone says, Charlie, last four holdouts deserve nothing and contempt.

00:15:39.000 These people are traitors for holding this up.

00:15:41.000 I don't agree with that.

00:15:42.000 I don't think that's right to say that the 20 people that have been negotiating for a stronger Congress are traitors.

00:15:48.000 I don't agree.

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00:16:36.000 So someone said, Charlie, what exactly is your agenda here?

00:16:39.000 Are you behind Kevin?

00:16:40.000 Are you not?

00:16:40.000 My agenda's been the same this entire time.

00:16:43.000 I want the most conservative Congress possible.

00:16:48.000 Period.

00:16:49.000 It's not about personalities.

00:16:51.000 It's about rules.

00:16:52.000 It's about legitimate promises.

00:16:55.000 I understand that there's skepticism, but my North Star has been the most conservative Congress possible.

00:17:03.000 Okay, joining us now is Liz Wheeler.

00:17:05.000 Liz, welcome to the program.

00:17:06.000 Lots to discuss with this unfolding drama in the House of Representatives.

00:17:11.000 Your thoughts.

00:17:13.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:17:13.000 Thanks for having me.

00:17:14.000 I think you're correct.

00:17:15.000 One of the areas that Republicans oftentimes get wrong is we try to elevate a particular politician to almost a godlike or celebrity-like figure.

00:17:25.000 And I think that that can be a mistake that you and I really shouldn't throw our weight behind a particular candidate.

00:17:30.000 We should throw our weight behind principles, which is why what's happening in the House of Representatives, I don't get the huffing and the puffing.

00:17:36.000 I find it hilarious and delightful that for once, Republicans are taking their time to do something right.

00:17:43.000 And when I say do something right, it doesn't mean that we're going to get 100% of what we want.

00:17:48.000 I mean, I think probably both you and I would prefer if Kevin McCarthy was not the Speaker of the House.

00:17:53.000 I don't want to speak for you.

00:17:54.000 I would prefer if Kevin McCarthy was not the Speaker of the House.

00:17:57.000 I think that he's a creature of the swamp.

00:17:59.000 He's not as bad as some of the other ones, but he is a creature of the swamp.

00:18:02.000 I prefer someone more committed to investigating the corruption that has been embedded in the federal government that's been weaponized against conservatives across the country.

00:18:13.000 However, we don't live in utopia.

00:18:16.000 We don't live in an ideal world.

00:18:17.000 We're probably going to end up with a Speaker McCarthy.

00:18:20.000 So what these 20 Republicans in the House have done, and CNN, by the way, coined what I think is just a very humorous nickname for them.

00:18:30.000 It was intended as an insult, but CNN called them the rebels.

00:18:33.000 I think that's fantastic.

00:18:35.000 The rebels have ensured, at least thus far, that McCarthy is going to be as conservative of a leader as McCarthy possibly can.

00:18:43.000 And ultimately, that's going to achieve the goal that you stated, the most conservative Congress that we can possibly get.

00:18:50.000 That's a good thing.

00:18:51.000 That is.

00:18:52.000 And so shifting gears for a second, you had a tweet I think that Elon Musk responded to earlier this week around a genre of a topic that, for whatever reason, I got in a lot of trouble for tweeting about just how athletes seem to be suddenly dropping.

00:19:07.000 Tell us about some of those numbers there about this alarming increase in athletes that have been dropping across the world.

00:19:16.000 Yeah, so the backstory here is I think we were all watching Monday night football when the Buffalo Bills were playing the Cincinnati Bengals.

00:19:23.000 I was actually in Cincinnati visiting my parents for Christmas.

00:19:26.000 I was upstairs putting my daughter to bed when my phone starts blowing up saying, hey, did you see what just happened to DeMar Hamlin on the field?

00:19:32.000 What do you think of this?

00:19:33.000 Like, that's so crazy.

00:19:34.000 This ever happened before.

00:19:36.000 And so I watched this video, and I think I had the same reaction that most of America had: that this was so tragic, so heartbreaking.

00:19:42.000 And before we speculate about what might have caused this cardiac arrest in this 24-year-old young man, this professional athlete, you know, you just stop and say a prayer for his safety, for wisdom and guidance for his people caring for him.

00:19:55.000 I think we've seen he's gotten incredible care.

00:19:57.000 The reports today are that he's talked to his team, even that he's talking to his family, and that could not bring my heart more joy.

00:20:04.000 But when I was looking up statistics and data about what happened in the direct aftermath, I found that, yes, it's true.

00:20:11.000 This has never happened on the field before, where a player just keels over in the way that DeMar Hamlin did, that has a cardiac arrest after a tackle that, yeah, football's violent, it's a violent sport, but it wasn't a particularly violent tackle compared to some of the other hits that we've seen.

00:20:27.000 And this is what I ended up finding.

00:20:29.000 And I cited all the research here because I knew it would garner the reaction that it did.

00:20:32.000 This is what I tweeted.

00:20:33.000 I said, one in 5,000 young men have heart issues from the COVID vax.

00:20:40.000 That is from the FDA, by the way.

00:20:42.000 Even the New York Times reported on this.

00:20:43.000 I'm talking about myocarditis or the inflammation of the heart.

00:20:47.000 There was immediate speculation on Twitter that this, what happened to DeMar Hamlin, was comodia cordis, which is a very rare thing that can happen to young men if they have a direct blunt force hit to a thin chest wall at a particular part of the cardiac cycle.

00:21:05.000 And there was almost immediate, immediate narratives emerging on Twitter that that's what happened to DeMar Hamlin.

00:21:10.000 So I looked this up and I found that between every year, I should say, in the United States, there's only between 10 and 20 cases of comodia cordis, and it rarely happens in anyone over the age of 20.

00:21:21.000 DeMar Hamlin is 24.

00:21:23.000 I then found that since January of 2021, that's two years.

00:21:27.000 It also coincides, of course, with the rollout of the COVID jab, 1,598 athletes have suffered from cardiac arrests.

00:21:37.000 69% of those, Charlie, have been fatal.

00:21:40.000 That's nearly 1,200 athletes who have died from cardiac arrest in the last two years.

00:21:45.000 Two years.

00:21:46.000 Now, for comparison, for context here, what did those numbers look like before the rollout of the vax?

00:21:50.000 Well, the average number of athlete cardiac arrests before January of 2021 was 29 per year.

00:21:58.000 So that's a very statistically significant difference.

00:22:01.000 So the point that I made in my tweet was all of this data, science, quote unquote science, the public health establishment, big pharma, even people's doctors, certainly politicians and pundits, ignore these things.

00:22:14.000 And this is why you and I and a large part of America have questions about what happened to DeMar Hamlin.

00:22:20.000 What caused a heart attack in an otherwise healthy professional athlete, this young man, man, this 24-year-old in the prime of his life, what caused his heart to suddenly stop?

00:22:30.000 And until we get answers to these questions, I think a lot of people are going to wonder.

00:22:34.000 And why is it that we can't even ask a question about it?

00:22:38.000 Liz, what do you think?

00:22:39.000 Why are we not even allowed to talk about it?

00:22:41.000 I mean, the power of the pharmaceutical companies.

00:22:44.000 Because if we answered these questions, if we answered this questions, what would it uncover?

00:22:48.000 It would uncover the truth and the reality of what's happened over the past two years.

00:22:53.000 That not only from the very beginning was the COVID-19 virus not as fatal as the public health establishment told us there wasn't this 3.6% fatality rate.

00:23:03.000 It wasn't going to kill children.

00:23:05.000 It wasn't equally fatal to every person, meaning you and I as healthy young people.

00:23:09.000 We've probably both survived COVID how many times now.

00:23:11.000 This was never going to be something that simply raised our population.

00:23:16.000 But because the public health establishment continued with that false narrative, that lie to the American people, they were able to trick people into taking this vaccine.

00:23:26.000 This vaccine that we now know is neither safe nor effective.

00:23:30.000 It doesn't prevent you from contracting the virus.

00:23:32.000 It doesn't prevent you from transmitting the virus.

00:23:34.000 And it does come with serious adverse reactions, adverse reactions that you don't need to take my word for.

00:23:39.000 You can see it in studies with the heart conditions.

00:23:42.000 You can see it anecdotally with instances of your family and your friends having suffered.

00:23:47.000 We all know people who've suffered these terrible adverse events because of the vaccine.

00:23:51.000 And if now, Charlie, if they admitted, if the public health establishment admitted, well, this is a question that we should certainly investigate.

00:23:58.000 I don't know what caused this cardiac arrest.

00:24:00.000 You don't know.

00:24:01.000 Nobody knows.

00:24:02.000 Maybe DeMar Hamlin's doctors know.

00:24:03.000 Maybe his family knows, but the public doesn't know.

00:24:06.000 But if we're even allowed to ask these questions, then everybody who was complicit in this conspiracy over the last two years, whether it's big pharma, politicians, mainstream media, big tech, whoever it might be, they're going to be exposed for the frauds that they are.

00:24:23.000 They're going to be exposed for being part of perpetuating this incredible harm on the United States of America.

00:24:28.000 And, you know, they don't want that exposed.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, and it's almost for committing the crime of noticing.

00:24:36.000 You can't even notice.

00:24:38.000 You're not allowed to even notice that things are happening and say it out loud.

00:24:43.000 So, Liz, I want to play some tape here of kind of some of the coverage of this.

00:24:48.000 And praise God, DeMar Hamlin is doing better.

00:24:51.000 And just the intensity that people have been coming after me and coming after, I'm sure you, after the Elon Musk tweet has been something.

00:25:00.000 And Elon agreed.

00:25:01.000 He said, yeah, why don't we just investigate this?

00:25:02.000 Well, you can't do that because the vaccine is 100% safe and effective.

00:25:05.000 And we don't know if it had anything to do with that.

00:25:07.000 We don't.

00:25:07.000 We do see a trend, though.

00:25:09.000 And when you see a pattern and you see a pattern manifest, then it is incumbent on you to notice that, to mention it out loud and not just say, well, I'm afraid of the potential backlash that will happen if I dare say that.

00:25:25.000 And so I guess we have a minute and a half remaining here, Liz, but a lot of people's lives were ruined for not taking the shot as well.

00:25:32.000 In fact, they were the ones that were telling us that we have to show our proof of vaccination status.

00:25:38.000 Your thoughts, one minute remaining.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, my husband was one of those people.

00:25:42.000 My husband's a medical provider, and he faced a situation where he either took the vaccine or he lost his job.

00:25:49.000 And he believed that the vaccine was not safe and not effective.

00:25:52.000 And he didn't want to be coerced into taking a medical procedure that he didn't want.

00:25:55.000 And he subsequently lost his job.

00:25:57.000 And he's not even kind of the only one.

00:25:59.000 This is unfortunately a very common story across our country right now.

00:26:03.000 And again, asking the questions.

00:26:05.000 Elon Musk responded to my tweet.

00:26:07.000 You mentioned that and said this deserves more investigation.

00:26:10.000 And the thing, Charlie, is that what happened on Monday Night Football might have been the first time that a lot of Americans who may not be in our politically active sphere, that they realize, hey, this is abnormal.

00:26:22.000 What could have caused that?

00:26:23.000 Could this be from the vaccine? 0.98

00:26:24.000 And so the public health establishment and politicians have to double down.

00:26:27.000 They have to lock this up, which makes it incumbent on us to not back down and to continue asking the questions.

00:26:33.000 Liz, tell people about your podcast and I hope people can follow you.

00:26:36.000 And then we have another segment after this.

00:26:40.000 Absolutely.

00:26:40.000 You can follow me, The Liz Wheeler Show.

00:26:42.000 You can find it wherever you listen to pods on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify.

00:26:45.000 If you'd like to watch the video version, you can find us on YouTube, on Rumble.

00:26:48.000 It's LizWheelershow.com, Monday through Friday, LizWheelershow.com.

00:26:53.000 Liz, I can't believe that the RNC chair race is still going on.

00:26:58.000 You fail in elections.

00:27:00.000 98% of people want Ronald Romney to be removed.

00:27:03.000 What are your thoughts on this RNC race?

00:27:05.000 I think we need leadership change at all three top points of the Republican apparatus.

00:27:12.000 We need change in the Senate.

00:27:13.000 We need change in the House. 0.99

00:27:14.000 We need change at the top of the RNC. 1.00

00:27:16.000 Ronaronomy McDaniel has been in charge of the RNC for five years, and she doesn't have a good track record.

00:27:23.000 It's time for a change.

00:27:25.000 One of the things that when I was talking about this on my show, I was talking about how do you pick someone that you can have confidence in to lead the Republican Party in the way that the conservative base wants?

00:27:34.000 How do you know if someone is a fighter?

00:27:37.000 How do you know if they're a squish ahead of time? 1.00

00:27:39.000 Because you can't always tell if they're not a politician and you can't look at their record.

00:27:43.000 And I said, there's one question that you can ask that distills the answer to that.

00:27:49.000 And here's the question.

00:27:50.000 Do the people running for RNC chair acknowledge the reality of the political enemy that we're facing?

00:28:00.000 And if the answer to this is no, then we're not going to be able to fight well against this political enemy.

00:28:05.000 If the answer to this question is yes, then you can have reasonable confidence that the leader of the RNC, the chair of the RNC, will act in a way that serves our interests.

00:28:14.000 And what I mean by this is the political enemy that we're facing is not just Democrats who agree with us on fundamental principles.

00:28:23.000 They agree with the Constitution.

00:28:25.000 They love America.

00:28:26.000 They just have different ideas about how they best want to protect our freedom.

00:28:29.000 No, that unfortunately is something from the past.

00:28:32.000 We no longer share these fundamental first principles with Democrats.

00:28:37.000 So if a Republican doesn't sit here and say, listen, what we're facing right now is a threat by Marxist forces that have infiltrated, embedded themselves, and co-opted most of the institutions in our country, from the education system to the medical field to obviously universities, even to the administrative state and the federal government.

00:28:57.000 If we don't sit here and acknowledge that critical race theory is Marxist, that queer theory is Marxist, that our politicians generally turn a blind eye to this and pretend that their Democratic colleagues are just a little bit misguided. 0.73

00:29:10.000 If they don't understand that, then the RNC, or this is also true of politicians, this is true of the Senate and the House as well, but the RNC is never going to be able to order the Republican platform in a way that fights back effectively against the Democrats' effort to subvert our freedom.

00:29:26.000 So whether you're talking about the January 6th stuff, whether you're talking about Russia collusion, whether you're talking about the FBI being weaponized against conservatives, whether you're talking about the electioneering that happened both in 2020 and in 2022, if you don't acknowledge first what the problem is, you're not going to be able to present a solution to fix that.

00:29:46.000 I sat down and talked to Harmeet Dylan, who is challenging Ronna Romney McDaniel for the RNC chair.

00:29:52.000 I asked her these questions.

00:29:54.000 I asked her first, what is the political enemy that we're facing?

00:29:57.000 And what do you, how do you define what happened in 2020 related to the election?

00:30:02.000 What do you think is the cause of these different cultural institutions being co-opted by the left?

00:30:09.000 And the answers to those questions, before she even provides the solutions, the answer to those questions will tell you whether or not you can have confidence in the fact that she would lead the RNC in the right direction, which I believe she will.

00:30:20.000 Liz Wheeler, thank you for being with us and check out the Liz Wheeler show on podcast.

00:30:24.000 Thank you, Liz.

00:30:25.000 Appreciate it.

00:30:26.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:30:27.000 Thanks.

00:30:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:30:29.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:32.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:30:36.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 07, 2023

The Most Conservative Congress in History with Troy Nehls and Liz Wheeler

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