00:00:51.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:58.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:30.000He's the author of We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
00:01:33.000Kurt, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:35.000Kurt, I want to start with you about this story that seemed to be breaking the last 24 hours, suggesting that the Department of Justice is criminally investigating Donald Trump for January 6th.
00:02:04.000I hope nothing's going to happen because this is kind of a recipe for disaster.
00:02:08.000The idea of trying a president who half the American population thinks was wrongly stripped of his victory in a Democrat stronghold, a 95% Democrat stronghold like Washington, D.C.
00:02:26.000It's one of those things that pulls about five blocks of the Jenga Tower that is our country now.
00:02:32.000But why wouldn't they do it then, Kurt?
00:02:33.000I don't know if I totally see it the same way.
00:03:06.000But I'm put to mind of the place where I served in the Army last, which is Kosovo, where you had one group of people deciding they weren't going to play by the norms and rules anymore.
00:03:18.000And for a little while, they did okay.
00:03:20.000And at the end of the day, you know, I was walking through their utterly destroyed and ruined villages.
00:03:27.000Okay, these things boomerang and they accelerate.
00:03:52.000And so, but the question is: will Merrick Garland then proceed with charges?
00:03:57.000We're going to get the clip in just a second here.
00:03:59.000But interestingly enough, Lester Holt's, the way he framed the question, the way Lester Holt framed the question was very telling.
00:04:07.000Because Lester Holt said, don't you think this is going to tear the country apart?
00:04:10.000And then Merritt Garland said, no one is off limits.
00:04:13.000So, Kurt, I would love to see the active Department of Justice investigation into Bill Clinton's visits to Epstein Island if no former president is off limits.
00:05:51.000And that would be, that would initiate a constitutional crisis.
00:05:57.000There's absolutely nothing good about this.
00:06:00.000And again, I want to emphasize the alleged criminal charges, which I never hear what the actual charge is, but the alleged criminal charges are absurd on their face.
00:06:12.000You're allowed to protest an election.
00:06:14.000If you weren't, the entire J6 kangaroo court committee would be in jail because most of them protested Bush's election and Trump's first election.
00:06:28.000This kind of thing is unsustainable, Charlie.
00:07:58.000And then Kurt, just answer right out after the clip about a minute long play cut 71.
00:08:03.000You said in no uncertain terms the other day that no one is above the law.
00:08:07.000That said, the indictment of a former president of perhaps candidate for president would arguably tear the country apart.
00:08:17.000Is that your concern as you make your decision down the road here?
00:08:21.000Do you have to think about things like that?
00:08:23.000Look, we pursue justice without fear or favor.
00:08:28.000We intend to hold everyone, anyone who was criminally responsible for events surrounding January 6th for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another accountable.
00:08:45.000We don't pay any attention to other issues with respect to that.
00:08:50.000So if Donald Trump were to become a candidate for president again, that would not change your schedule or how you move forward or don't move forward.
00:08:58.000I'll say again that we will hold accountable anyone who is criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer, legitimate lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next.
00:09:44.000And, you know, as much as it pains me to say we should give thanks for Mitch McConnell preventing him from getting on the Supreme Court because he's an absolute disgrace.
00:09:52.000This is why Republicans are ill-equipped for this moment.
00:09:55.000Republican attorney generals and governors should come out and say, if you indict Donald Trump, we will indict Hunter Biden immediately and we'll figure out the charges later.
00:10:04.000Oh, we know he, we know Hunter Biden lied on his gun form.
00:10:08.000Yet he's running around while the rest of us are supposed to be disarmed because a few left-wing psychotics decide to go on killings first.
00:10:27.000I think they think that the quicker the unrest happens, God forbid, I don't want unrest and you don't either, but I think that they want it to try to justify a national power grab.
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00:12:58.000My first plants case was a $3 million defamation win.
00:13:02.000I also, and it's public knowledge, so I can talk about it, defended Ben Shapiro against the Clockboy lawsuit for defamation in Texas, which we won hands down.
00:13:15.000You know, the view shouldn't be calling people Nazis, and it shouldn't be saying that people are associated with Nazis.
00:13:20.000And I do know, I think it's cute that they, after they said that you and your organization were caborting with Nazis, they came back and read a disclaimer and then promptly said more stuff.
00:13:34.000So I'm thinking right now there are some lawyers there pouring themselves a very stiff drink.
00:13:57.000You can say what you want and no one can sue you.
00:14:00.000And that includes bad things about other people.
00:14:04.000It's very hard to win a defamation suit.
00:14:06.000Maybe easier after the Supreme Court revisits something called Sullivan versus New York Times, which would affect you guys because you guys are public figures.
00:14:16.000And the standards for abuse of public figures are much more.
00:15:19.000I said earlier, if there's a 50-50 shot, we're going to go ahead and do it.
00:15:22.000I mean, look, there's never 100%, but if there's even a 50% chance, then it's worth the campaign to go against them.
00:15:29.000I know you can't, you know, possibly hedge on one side or the other, but in kind of more generalities, you know, why is it that these people are able to continue to get away with this so many times, one after the other?
00:15:43.000Well, look, they get away with it because the law is designed to let people get away with it.
00:15:48.000The law is, the law disfavors defamation lawsuits.
00:15:52.000The remedy for hostile speech is generally considered, except on college campuses where they just outlaw all speech that they don't like, is more speech.
00:16:03.000There are certain circumstances where you can collect money damages for it.
00:16:08.000And, you know, you guys may or may not be in that category.
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00:18:27.000Normally, I sit down and write about what I want to write about.
00:18:31.000In this book, I wrote about whatever anyone asked me.
00:18:34.000So, it's celebrity questions and fan questions.
00:18:39.000And it's an interesting process because it got me to think about things I never would have formally thought of because I would just write about the stuff I was thinking about.
00:18:49.000And it got me out of my box and it made for some interesting dialogue.
00:20:25.000And I realized death is really just the next logical extension to a six-hour airline flight that you're looking forward to.
00:20:34.000Yes, especially in the third world country we live in now when it's four hours delayed and you have two people breathing all over you.
00:20:41.000And so you kind of go through all these different topics here.
00:20:44.000And it's basically, you could call it an ask me anything basically that you did here, Adam, kind of like what you used to do on Reddit before it became a total cesspool.
00:20:53.000And you just answer questions from your listeners.
00:20:55.000So you've written a couple books and it's around the, you definitely have some themes here that I think are super interesting, which is you're one of the most successful comedians ever, and especially of our era, and you are outspoken against all this woke stuff.
00:21:07.000Adam, it's been a while since we've had a chance to chat.
00:21:10.000Have you seen any progress at all as far as people pushing against this woke stuff in comedian circles?
00:21:15.000Or is it just getting worse and the country is just becoming less funny, to put it bluntly?
00:21:21.000I think guys like Bill Maher are sort of the canary in the coal mine for us.
00:21:28.000People who think like we think, you know, two years ago, I didn't hear much from him or much pushback in the last four months.
00:21:36.000It's a constant pushback against the woke progressive movement.
00:21:41.000So if you took Bill Maher, not that he speaks for every comedian, but just that he's a good kind of bellwether.
00:21:49.000He's a guy who's liberal and he's left, but he's also intellectually honest and he also believes in freedom of speech.
00:21:57.000And when you hear guys like that piping up about this subject, that means the pendulum is starting to swing back.
00:22:06.000You also made another point recently, Adam, that I've heard you say, which is that the smart people are starting to defect from the woke.
00:22:16.000That you're starting people like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi.
00:22:19.000And can you build that out a little bit more?
00:22:22.000Greg Gutfeld mentioned this as well over the weekend, that the people that kind of are able to sustain themselves outside of an infrastructure of teen vogue or whatever, they're actually pushing back against this.
00:22:39.000I was interviewing Gutfeld when I was in New York for my podcast, and we were having a really interesting conversation.
00:22:47.000And I came up with this hypotheses because we're kind of wondering who are the people that are stepping outside of the line on the left and speaking their mind.
00:22:59.000Who are the people that are risking getting fired from their job because they're stepping up and they're speaking up?
00:23:07.000And I said, I think it's the people who are good or and or I should put a finer point on it, who are excellent and understand it, which is to say, and I come from a blue collar world.
00:23:21.000I have a guy who works for me right now.
00:23:40.000Not that I want to push him around, but he's not going to take a bunch of, you know, I'm not going to be able to say, look, wear double mask and you got to pledge allegiance to the January 6th committee.
00:23:51.000He'll just go, F you, I'm going across the street because he has a skill, a very candid are good at what they do.
00:24:02.000Most people are trying to hang on to a job and they live in the middle.
00:24:06.000So if you work for the Los Angeles Times, you work for the New York Times, you better shut up because you're lucky to have a job.
00:24:13.000When you're excellent and you sort of know it, you can go, I disagree with the powers that be.
00:24:39.000If you're somewhere in between and there's people in between in metal fabrication, there's people in between in journalism and there's people in between in comedy.
00:24:51.000And that's why you get an overwhelming majority of people going along with this crap, not because they believe it, but because they're so so at their job and they're scared.
00:28:53.000But I do want to mention another thing that Turning Point USA is doing, where we have had a donor step up and we are funding a billboard campaign across the heartland of the country with this messaging.
00:29:03.000We are doing these billboards all across America saying Bill Gates and the CCP are buying up farmland across America.
00:29:21.000We have them in South and North Dakota because as you well know, Republican governors are okay, it seems as if, with Bill Gates buying up all this farmland, with the CCP buying up this farmland.
00:29:32.000I believe this is one of the most important issues.
00:29:34.000By the way, billboards are super cheap and they get the word out.
00:29:37.000Why is it that we are allowing kleptocrats and the Chinese Communist Party to come in and purchase our fertile farmland?
00:29:45.000Now, if you go actually into the World Economic Forum, we played this tape previously, we'll play it again.
00:29:49.000Jane Goodall, remember, she said that the world's problems will be solved by mass depopulation.
00:29:55.000Bill Gates buying up the farmland has flirted with the depopulation movement before, play cut one.
00:30:02.000We cannot hide away from human population growth because, you know, it underlies so many of the other problems.
00:30:09.000All these things we talk about wouldn't be a problem if there was the size of population that there was 500 years ago.
00:30:17.000Now, Bill Gates said once, quote, the world today has about 6.8 billion people.
00:30:23.000Now, if we do a really great new job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we can lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.
00:30:31.000Gates allegedly was talking about the reducing the rate of population growth, not by population by 10 or 15 percent.
00:30:38.000Gates said, quote, amazingly, as children survive, parents feel as if they'll have enough kids to support them in their old age, so they'll choose to have less children.
00:30:45.000So, it is a stated goal of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to try to say we need less people on the planet in population growth.
00:30:54.000I'm not going to label him by saying that Bill Gates himself has been advocating for total depopulation.
00:31:02.000I do have my suspicions that that is a deeply held sentiment of his.
00:31:06.000However, the point is: why would we allow the Chinese Communist Party, the sworn enemy of the United States, and Bill Gates to buy up this farmland?
00:31:13.000Well, in a state near you, Turning Point USA is putting up billboards trying to raise awareness on this.
00:31:19.000And for all of you listening in North Dakota, for all of you listening in South Dakota, for all of you listening in Arkansas, why are your governors allowing this to happen?
00:31:28.000You know, a good fellow patriot and a friend of mine is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
00:31:33.000If Sarah Huckabee Sanders becomes governor of Arkansas, I am going to personally lobby her that it's illegal that Bill Gates should be able to own all this farmland in Arkansas.
00:31:48.000How dare you try to prevent the private property rights of another?
00:31:51.000Look, I love free markets, and free markets need to serve people.
00:31:54.000However, when markets start to serve people that hate America, such as Bill Gates and the Chinese Communist Party, are we just going to stick to the same old sound bites?
00:32:03.000Or will we make prudent and small and proper adjustments to say that someone like Bill Gates should not be disenfranchising the normal everyday American worker or farmer so that he can own another couple hundred thousand pieces of farmland?
00:32:17.000By the way, why do we allow the Chinese Communist Party to buy farmland near our military installations?
00:32:23.000Can we buy farmland near CCP military installations?
00:32:26.000Do you think American citizens can go into China and buy farmland next to the Chinese Air Force bases?
00:32:32.000Yet we allow the Chinese Communist Party to come into North Dakota and to go buy farmland near the military base, all of which is sponsored by Governor Bergnam in North Dakota.