00:00:50.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:01:36.000I'm just going to ask a very simple question.
00:01:39.000In your expert opinion, who was responsible for the bombing of the pipeline?
00:01:44.000Well, the answer to that is that first of all, I don't know.
00:01:47.000I'm saying I don't know because I really don't have any concrete information to indict anybody.
00:01:54.000Now, if you step back from that and you look at the people in the world with the capability to do what was done to plant hundreds of pounds of TNT next to a very, very strongly built pipeline and blow it up, there really aren't very many people out there that could do it.
00:02:39.000That leaves the United Kingdom, potentially the French, perhaps the United States.
00:02:46.000The Poles, of course, are in there as at least willing co-conspirators.
00:02:51.000A lot of people are pointing at the United States.
00:02:54.000The Poles have already said we did it.
00:02:56.000But you've got to be careful because, frankly, the United States government has not admitted to it.
00:03:01.000In fact, the United States government is making the utterly ridiculous argument that the Russians did it to themselves, which makes no sense.
00:03:08.000Yeah, I mean, it's a huge economic stimulus to their country.
00:03:13.000Some people would say, though, aren't they selling their energy to China and India so they don't need this anymore?
00:03:19.000You better understand that Putin from the very beginning has exercised considerable restraint.
00:03:24.000He's never used more than 20% of his ground force in Ukraine.
00:03:28.000And from the beginning, Russian forces have been outnumbered by Ukrainian forces just in sheer numbers.
00:03:34.000He has tried to run this war in a way that it could be ended without permanently damaging relations with the West because Putin wants to do business with Western Europe.
00:03:45.000Frankly, I think he'd like to do business with us.
00:03:48.000So right now, we've made it impossible for that to commence quickly.
00:03:54.000And again, the key player in everything right now in NATO and Europe in this war is really Germany.
00:03:59.000Germany is the economic, scientific, industrial giant.
00:04:03.000And the Germans have now lost the opportunity to make a decision regarding their own destiny.
00:04:09.000So when Germans start to freeze and Germans run out of food this winter, and this winter is supposed to be a bad one, they don't have much choice.
00:04:20.000We've said you have to go along with us whether you like it or not, I think.
00:04:24.000So the way that this is progressing, I'm afraid that this is a mass escalation event.
00:04:29.000I mean, knowing how the American government works, I said yesterday, I don't trust the government.
00:04:35.000And unfortunately, they're going to have to prove to me they weren't even either aware or involved in damaging this pipeline, considering just as you went through the process of elimination, which was the smartest way to go about doing this.
00:04:47.000If America was aware or involved in bombing this pipeline, what does that mean?
00:05:00.000This is designed not just to hurt Germany and our allies in Western Europe, but it's designed to hurt Russia.
00:05:09.000And the Russians could regard this as essentially a Kazas belly.
00:05:13.000But thus far, Putin has chosen not to do that.
00:05:17.000Now, what is happening that Americans are not aware of is that there is a tremendous military buildup now in and around southeastern Ukraine, in the western part of Russia, in Belorussia.
00:05:31.000Thousands, tens of thousands of troops have now been released from their duties elsewhere in Russia by the arrival of reservists to take over their missions.
00:05:39.000That means most of the regular Russian army can now be employed against Ukraine.
00:05:46.000So I think what Putin will try to do is end this as quickly as possible over the next few months.
00:05:53.000And we, on the other hand, are going to continue, I guess, to refuse to negotiate because we've made it impossible for the Ukrainians to come to terms with it.
00:06:02.000Now, the good news is that the Ukrainian chief of staff and the Russian chief of staff allegedly spoke to each other on the phone within the last 24 to 48 hours.
00:06:12.000And they talked about how to end the conflict.
00:06:15.000But at the same time, Mr. Zelensky continues to drop hints with the media of just how desperate Ukraine is.
00:06:22.000He said that he's got scientists and engineers prepared to work to build a dirty bomb utilizing spent uranium fuel for the purpose of driving the Russians back or containing them or stopping them.
00:06:35.000All sorts of crazy things are coming out of Kiev.
00:06:38.000And they're engaged in trying to take this town of Liman in the south of Ukraine, which they think is a linchpin in the Russian operation.
00:06:47.000I'm not sure it is, but he's ordered his generals to take it regardless of how many casualties they're sustaining.
00:06:55.000And the Ukrainians over the last month or so have taken tens of thousands of casualties, killed and wounded.
00:07:45.000He said, no, no, no, it's just a matter of time before Russia surrenders.
00:07:50.000Well, the first data point, I think, is that since 24 February, Ukraine has been winning the war.
00:07:58.000All you have to do is go back and listen to CNN, NBC, MSNBC, even Fox, and the usual suspects, retired generals, and hawks, left or right, neocons, have all been coming on since February, telling us Ukrainians are winning.
00:08:20.000The Russians have taken 90% of the territory that contains Russian-speaking people.
00:08:28.000This was always what they said they were going to do, go in there, eliminate the Ukrainian military, and at the same time, turn around and restore the rights before the law of Russian citizens.
00:08:42.00087 to 95% of the population is coming out to vote.
00:08:46.000The only thing that is annoying the Russians who are voting to become part of Russia in eastern Ukraine is the periodic shelling by Ukrainian forces to try and disrupt the referendum.
00:08:58.000So I think the Russians are very definitely in the driver's seat.
00:09:01.000Second thing is that we don't have any evidence for massive casualties on the Russian side.
00:09:06.000Those were always claims that were made, but we haven't been able to prove any of it.
00:09:12.000And right now, most observers think that the Russians have lost somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 dead, which over the period of time, considering that they were outnumbered from the beginning, is not unreasonable.
00:09:24.000But the most recent estimates for Ukrainian dead are now exceeding 80,000.
00:09:29.000Some people think it could be as much as 100,000.
00:09:32.000And we do know that the hospitals in Ukraine are bursting at the seams.
00:09:37.000What nobody seems to want to accept is the fact that Putin did not want to wage total war on Ukraine.
00:09:44.000Putin wanted to go in, make his point, and then have negotiations.
00:09:50.000And so he's had to continue fighting until such time as he controls everything that he thinks is important.
00:09:57.000And that will probably include Odessa down south that turns Ukraine into a landlocked country.
00:10:02.000And I suspect they'll go back up to Kharkov once they finished up in the south.
00:10:07.000But now we have forces converging on Ukraine from white Russia, from Velorussia in the north, and more Russian forces preparing to move into Ukraine and join those that are fighting at the moment.
00:10:18.000And the Russian population is delighted because the Russian population has always expressed frustration with the failure to go in with a sledgehammer at the beginning.
00:10:28.000But that was not done because, again, he did not want to kill large numbers of people or do damage in the country.
00:10:36.000But no one wants to accept that in the West.
00:10:38.000We've permanently demonized him and Russia.
00:10:41.000And so I'm not surprised that the senator said what he did.
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00:12:01.000From defensenews.com, Congress to vote on $12.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, another one which would bring the total well over $70 to $80 billion.
00:12:15.000Colonel, where is all this money going?
00:12:18.000Well, most of it does not leave the United States, Charlie.
00:12:21.000Most of it is transferred to DOD, which is compensated for the equipment that we pull out of stocks and ship overseas to Ukraine.
00:12:30.000And that cash in turn then finds its way back into the defense industries.
00:12:35.000And significant cuts, obviously, go to their representatives on the hill, people in Congress, in the Senate, and so forth, who are enabling this enormous cash transfer.
00:12:47.000I mean, and so yet the UNIPARTY in Washington, D.C. continues to approve it, and never received a full audit of where all this money goes, only further escalating the conflict.
00:13:00.000And so, I guess the question we asked yesterday is: who stands to benefit from bombing this pipeline?
00:13:07.000The best answer I have is the military-industrial complex, isn't that right?
00:13:10.000The further escalation of this conflict.
00:13:13.000I mean, it's hard for me to believe that escalating this conflict to the strategic level with Russia is somehow or another going to benefit the United States or Europe.
00:13:24.000In fact, I'm concerned about a direct confrontation with the Russians.
00:13:28.000And the Russians are very different from Americans.
00:13:31.000Most Americans right now are not paying any attention to what's happening in Eastern Europe.
00:13:36.000They're paying attention to the hurricane and the damage inflicted on Naples and Tampa and other towns in Florida.
00:13:42.000As a result, nobody's asking any hard questions, and the people on the hill are just sort of bloviating and repeating in ad nauseum things that aren't true, which they're being told by their handlers, this is what you need to say.
00:14:06.000And to this, you've got to add the sort of suicidal path that Poland is on, because the Poles are the one people in Europe right now who seem to be excited about going to war with Russia.
00:14:16.000And for those in the audience that know anything about Eastern Europe, these three groups of people, Ukrainians, Russians, and Poles, have fought each other repeatedly over many centuries.
00:14:26.000So this is kind of a tribal war, which raises questions about why we're involved to begin with.
00:14:33.000Yeah, I don't think we've received a good answer to that.
00:14:35.000Putin is saying that this is the end of the unipolar world and the rise of a multipolar world.
00:14:43.000Well, I think he's been saying this for some time, and he's not alone.
00:14:47.000You've got leadership in India, in the Middle East, in Africa, South America, all being pointing to the fact that whereas 60, 70, 80 years ago, we represented about half the gross national product of the planet.
00:15:04.000Today, we've dwindled down to about 24, 25% and falling.
00:15:09.000In other words, the world has recovered from the Second World War.
00:15:13.000And nobody seems to understand how devastating that war was.
00:15:16.000It was devastating for everybody but us.
00:15:19.000We sustained very little damage, so we were on top for a very long time as a result of the growth in our scientific industrial base.
00:15:27.000We've shot ourselves in the foot now repeatedly.
00:15:30.000You know, the sort of reckless borrowing that has now given us this enormous sovereign national debt, it's put the whole world at risk right now.
00:15:39.000All you have to do is look at the stock markets.
00:15:42.000And when it comes to oil, coal, and gas, that's 80% of the world's energy.
00:15:48.000And we seem to be determined to ensure that much of the world doesn't have access to it.
00:15:53.000So, you know, this is a catastrophe that's looming right now.
00:16:00.000And the whole world is saying enough, we've had enough of this.
00:16:03.000The only people that are enthusiastic, if you will, about this war with Russia, which is senseless and stupid, are the people that are governing much of Western Europe and North America.
00:16:15.000Once you get past them, there's not much support out there.
00:16:34.000But again, the reservists, the principal role they have is replacing regular troops all around the country that can be then concentrated in Ukraine.
00:16:43.000And I think he wants to come to an agreement with the Ukrainians, and he knows that we won't support it.
00:16:48.000In the meantime, the Germans, it's not just oil and coal and gas and so forth for them.
00:16:53.000They shut down their nuclear power plants.
00:16:56.000They shut down their, you know, their reliance on coal.
00:16:59.000You can't do that if you're going to be hostile to a country that holds your destiny in their hands.
00:17:05.000There was no thinking, no forethought, nothing.
00:17:08.000And by the way, I don't see there's much thinking here either.
00:17:10.000I don't see any strategy other than harm Russia.
00:17:14.000And the only thing we've succeeded in doing is harming ourselves and our lives.
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00:19:15.000We're on the road just getting ready for another 30 to 40 events this month, knocking doors, tens of thousands of doors every weekend with turning point action.
00:19:24.000So we're excited about what's coming up here in the key target states.
00:19:31.000And so before we get into some of the specifics of kind of what's going on, Tyler, walk us through the events this weekend, the Super Saturday that we're having here in Arizona.
00:19:41.000Yeah, so we actually have an important one coming up right not far from our headquarters in Mesa, Arizona, where we are knocking doors in a key target area in Mesa.
00:19:52.000What a lot of people don't realize has happened in many of these key target states, the Democrats had known and focused on redistricting in a big way.
00:20:02.000And so Arizona has been at the epicenter of the redistricting battle.
00:20:07.000And there's about four districts in Arizona that are purple.
00:20:12.000Yeah, they're very close to being overtaken by Democrats.
00:20:16.000And that was intentional for the next 10 years.
00:20:19.000And so essentially what we're doing is making sure we're focusing on those areas first to hold those as Republican and conservative and put those in conservative hands and help save the state.
00:20:30.000And that's happening not just in Arizona, but in Georgia, in Michigan, and Wisconsin, Ohio, and Florida right now as well.
00:20:39.000So Tyler, you know, some people are asking, I just got an email here, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:20:44.000What's the vibe from knocking on doors?
00:20:46.000Because that's a real grassroots poll, right?
00:20:48.000And Tyler, you've done a lot of work in developing, you know, helping develop the technology to actually be able to find the voters and profile them and organize the precincts.
00:20:56.000What's the vibe on the ground like, you know, and also, I know this sounds like a silly question, but walk through the process of what knocking on a door actually is because some people have never done it before.
00:21:20.000And then obviously that got so much worse during COVID, where basically they scared every old person on the planet into staying at home and not making voter contact, which I think is intentional.
00:21:31.000They knew the Democrats know that the less older folks that are out talking to their neighbors, the less chance that Republicans have to win in a lot of these key areas.
00:21:41.000And so we're punching back with younger people and saying, you know what, we're not going to just sit around and wait around.
00:21:49.000And the big key thing, if there's one piece that I would say, number one, get out and talk to your neighbors, even if it's just your next door neighbor, your cross-street neighbor, someone that you haven't seen or talked to in a long time.
00:21:59.000But two is look for the voice that you would have with a neighbor or with, like, I always say, like with a semi-distant family member, someone that you know, but you don't talk to all the time.
00:22:10.000And work on that voice of people of like, hey, like an uncle, right?
00:22:13.000Or a second cousin or a cousin of like, hey, you know, that type of voice is what really gets people feeling like they know you and that they're comfortable with you, but also that you're not overstepping your bounds where you're having too lucive conversations about, you know, sensitive topics and politics.
00:22:33.000Yeah, that's and I think getting back to the grassroots, back to actually talking to people is going to be one of our keys to winning in November and beyond.
00:22:41.000So let's talk about some of the races, but first we go there.
00:22:43.000Tyler, you know, we did a whole show on ranked choice voting.
00:22:46.000McConnell's putting it on a million dollars behind Lisa Murkowski.
00:22:49.000Ranked choice voting is the subterranean risk to our republic that no one wants to talk about.
00:22:55.000You educated me on it and then we've broadcasted it and people are still getting educated on it.
00:23:01.000In fact, some races are not going to go our way probably because of the process.
00:23:05.000Talk more about ranked choice voting and talk about why we need a unified, just kind of fire alarm campaign to make sure this doesn't spread further.
00:23:14.000Look, I mean, the Democrats have figured out that they can't win with how elections have run for the last 250 years in America.
00:23:21.000So what they're doing is they're trying to change everything.
00:23:26.000They're trying to implement ranked choice voting in top two primaries.
00:23:30.000They're trying to control the redistricting process.
00:23:33.000I mean, this is an all-out attack on our Constitution.
00:23:38.000And Republicans have to be really prepared.
00:23:40.000And it's guys like Mitch McConnell who are at the epicenter of just handing the country the keys over to the Democrats.
00:23:48.000And I say this, I don't say this lightly because we look at Arizona where Mitch McConnell has decided to make almost no investment.
00:23:55.000He's made almost no investment of the PAC money as leader in Florida because he's scared of Rick Scott.
00:24:02.000And he's spending a bunch of money on Lisa Markowski, where they've implemented ranked choice voting essentially just to keep Leefson Markowski in office.
00:24:10.000And as we saw, help get Democrats elected in a solid red state.
00:24:15.000And I'm going to tell you this right now: every Republican that can hear my voice, that can hear your voice every single day, should be coming out vehemently against ranked choice voting, which essentially hands off the entire electoral system to a single uniparty centrist faction, which is run by Democrats.
00:24:38.000Yeah, and the ranked choice voting can be very confusing to people, but essentially is whoever is second place or the fake Republican always wins.
00:24:48.000Yeah, the basic way to summarize is this is whoever is in second or third place in an area may have an advantage because what it does is very similar to nonpartisan elections, which this happens in local elections a lot, is what the Democrats will do is purposely not run a candidate in a Republican area and then all support a moderate candidate when it's a nonpartisan election.
00:25:13.000So this basically replicates the same thing, where it allows the Democrats to essentially support the worst Republican, which is not that is not inviting more ideas into our society.
00:25:29.000It creates a single party rather than multiple parties.
00:25:32.000Yeah, it creates a uniparty of people that they want all the same.
00:25:36.000They agree on everything on trade, immigration, globalism, all this.
00:25:40.000So Tyler, we did a whole segment on Mike Lee on how McMuffin McMullen is running as this fake conservative independent.
00:25:50.000You know the Utah landscape very well.
00:25:53.000You know, we're 100% behind Mike Lee at turning point action.
00:25:56.000Walk us through this Utah situation because a recent poll has come out that shows that McMuffin McMullen is down only two points to the great Mike Lee.
00:26:06.000Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing, right?
00:26:08.000So the same process they're trying to pull in Utah, and they're not at Alaska level yet because they just have implemented ranked choice voting in Utah for primaries.
00:26:17.000But this is what they want to do in Utah too, because what they want to do is they want to sneakily run people who are independents and then try to try to subvert the Democrat Party or get Democrats on board and support that independent and red states so that they can knock off more conservative members of Congress in your local areas.
00:26:38.000And this is happening actually in Arizona as well.
00:26:41.000Not very many people know this, but they're running a McMullen-style candidate against Andy Biggs, former Freedom Caucus chair.
00:26:47.000That's going to be harder, though, right?
00:27:17.000Well, this is how they turn states blue.
00:27:20.000This is exactly how in a lot of ways that Colorado went down the tubes is that you take over a big city and you run subversive, independent, and moderate candidates.
00:27:32.000And also the Democrats have control of your state.
00:27:35.000And so, what, I mean, this is Willard Mitt Romney is one of the people launching behind this.
00:27:40.000And it's also Utah is this very tricky situation because they run on kind of like fake, not fake values, but they appeal to like this fake decency.
00:27:50.000Like, oh, McMullen will like rise above it.
00:27:52.000And it's so synthetic and just it's garbage.
00:27:55.000And I mean, some of the emails we got from people, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:27:59.000And Tyler, you serve on the RNC and you do a great job.
00:28:02.000You're one of the conservatives there.
00:28:03.000They say, why is the RNC not doing something about this in Utah?
00:28:09.000Yeah, I mean, you know, I was a little bit horrified that there wasn't a bigger push to support Mike Lee when the RNC had their meeting in Utah that I was at.
00:28:18.000Where we actually censured, we actually censured Liz Cheney at that meeting, which helped send her down the tubes while we were there.
00:28:29.000It's not very different in Utah from the Midwest, where you have this Midwestern nice, you have this Mormon LDS nice, where it's like the Democrats and these secret backroom deal makers will always take advantage of that and lie to you.
00:28:46.000And that's essentially what's happened with this whole Mitt Romney, Jeff Flay, this band of goons who are basically wanting to control and keep power.
00:28:58.000And they're willing to lie to their entire community and implore decency when the reality is that they're at least decent people.
00:29:17.000It's the craziest thing because if you were to stack Mitt Romney versus Mike Lee, Mike Lee would win the nice competition every time, right?
00:29:37.000We have to make sure that we have control of the party and conservatives have a strong voice and that they're running their parties in each of these states in order to make sure that we have the most conservative candidates win and run.
00:29:49.000So super Saturday this weekend, come out, go knock on doors, tpaction.com.
00:29:55.000So all six states that, like I said, are the key target states, Florida, Ohio, where we have to win in 2024, Michigan and Wisconsin, which we have to win in the Midwest, Arizona and Georgia, which are these like purpley areas now.
00:30:09.000We have events happening every Saturday basically through the month of October.
00:32:42.000What are the races that you don't think are getting enough national attention?
00:32:46.000Well, I mean, a lot of these congressional races are just being totally overlooked right now.
00:32:51.000You know, one of the most important races I think that's going to be a real bellwether type race is J.R. Majewski that is in Ohio.
00:33:00.000And so we have Toledo that we're looking at, where JR actually just, you know, has been kind of punked a little bit by, again, the NRCC and the national.
00:33:11.000Yeah, they're leaving them out to dry.
00:33:16.000And here's the reason why it makes no sense, Charlie: is that we have these six turning point action and turning point pack are operating in these six key target states.
00:33:27.000So Ohio and Florida, we must win in 2024.
00:33:30.000You can't win the White House without those two states.
00:33:33.000And so you would think that that would be the base of the foundation for where we would want to invest the most amount of money in order to ensure that 2024 was going to be rock solid.
00:33:41.000We want Democrats to have to fight and take back these seats in 2024.
00:33:45.000If they're spending money in those states, because we've won a ton of ground in 2022, that helps us.
00:33:51.000And so J.R. Majewski and our friend Madison Gilbert, Jesse Yoda Gilbert, and also an Akron, that's a big deal.
00:34:00.000If we win both those seats, we're going to have taking ground away from the Democrats that really should be theirs.
00:34:09.000Yeah, I just, you know, on so many different levels, I'm just, I don't understand this J.R. Majuski thing.
00:34:16.000The media is going after him for allegedly misrepresenting his military record, which obviously we don't support, but we're in the midst of an election.
00:34:38.000So to give you an idea, Ana, who is the work for us at one point at Turning Point USA on the C3 side, she left and went to run for Congress.
00:34:47.000She ran against this nasty guy that's not running for governor.
00:34:51.000We won't even mention his name because he's going to get beat so bad by Governor DeSantis.
00:34:57.000But she ran against him in a blue district.
00:35:01.000After redistricting, her district is now red thanks to Ron DeSantis signing only Good Maps.
00:35:08.000It's about an eight plus advantage for her in a district right now in a year where she should end up winning by double digits.
00:35:16.000But look, I mean, the Democrat, even in that district, has raised about 10 times more money than she has.
00:35:21.000And the Democrats are just flooding these races with money, just hoping that throwing money at it will help them.
00:35:26.000One of the good news is that these consultants are just bleeding them dry, not different than how the establishment operates on the Republican side.
00:35:36.000And we should be able to pick those up.
00:35:38.000Here in Arizona, we have three races that are incredibly important in purple districts that we're going to be taking at least two of those away from Democrats, it looks like.
00:35:49.000And then one right where our headquarters is with Kelly Cooper in an area in Awatuke, Chandler, and Mesa that really should be a Republican-leaning district.
00:36:00.000And so we're hoping that Republicans and Hispanic voters turn out big.
00:36:04.000And that's where our big focus has been with messages about gas that you brought up.
00:36:09.000Because, I mean, you just saw the numbers today.
00:36:12.000Gas is breaking $5 a gallon in Arizona in some areas.
00:36:16.000And this directly impacts the small business community, specifically the Hispanic community in Arizona.