The Charlie Kirk Show - September 29, 2022


The Nord Stream Truth You Won’t Hear on MSM with Colonel Douglas Macgregor


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Colonel Douglas McGregor joins us to talk about who bombed the Keystone XL pipeline and why the U.S. government refuses to admit to the fact that they were behind the attack, and who else could be the culprits?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Taylor Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Colonel Douglas McGregor joins us.
00:00:04.000 Is Ukraine winning?
00:00:05.000 Is Russia winning? 0.68
00:00:05.000 Who bombed the pipeline? 0.68
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00:01:20.000 I'm afraid we're on the precipice of a potential world war.
00:01:24.000 And no better person to help unpack all the confusion and uncertainty than the great Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:01:31.000 Colonel, welcome back to the program.
00:01:33.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:01:35.000 Thank you for joining us.
00:01:36.000 I'm just going to ask a very simple question.
00:01:39.000 In your expert opinion, who was responsible for the bombing of the pipeline?
00:01:44.000 Well, the answer to that is that first of all, I don't know.
00:01:47.000 I'm saying I don't know because I really don't have any concrete information to indict anybody.
00:01:54.000 Now, if you step back from that and you look at the people in the world with the capability to do what was done to plant hundreds of pounds of TNT next to a very, very strongly built pipeline and blow it up, there really aren't very many people out there that could do it.
00:02:11.000 It was definitely not the Russians. 0.97
00:02:12.000 Let's be clear about that.
00:02:14.000 The Russians simply derive 40% of their foreign capital from the pipeline.
00:02:20.000 They're not going to blow it up.
00:02:22.000 The Germans certainly did not because now the Germans have been robbed of the opportunity to make a decision about their own future.
00:02:28.000 Because the Germans, frankly, are on the precipice of pulling out of this proxy war that we're running in Ukraine.
00:02:38.000 So that leaves who?
00:02:39.000 That leaves the United Kingdom, potentially the French, perhaps the United States. 0.59
00:02:46.000 The Poles, of course, are in there as at least willing co-conspirators. 1.00
00:02:51.000 A lot of people are pointing at the United States.
00:02:54.000 The Poles have already said we did it. 0.53
00:02:56.000 But you've got to be careful because, frankly, the United States government has not admitted to it.
00:03:01.000 In fact, the United States government is making the utterly ridiculous argument that the Russians did it to themselves, which makes no sense.
00:03:08.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a huge economic stimulus to their country.
00:03:13.000 Some people would say, though, aren't they selling their energy to China and India so they don't need this anymore?
00:03:18.000 I'm not sure if I follow that.
00:03:19.000 You better understand that Putin from the very beginning has exercised considerable restraint.
00:03:24.000 He's never used more than 20% of his ground force in Ukraine.
00:03:28.000 And from the beginning, Russian forces have been outnumbered by Ukrainian forces just in sheer numbers.
00:03:34.000 He has tried to run this war in a way that it could be ended without permanently damaging relations with the West because Putin wants to do business with Western Europe.
00:03:45.000 Frankly, I think he'd like to do business with us.
00:03:48.000 So right now, we've made it impossible for that to commence quickly.
00:03:54.000 And again, the key player in everything right now in NATO and Europe in this war is really Germany.
00:03:59.000 Germany is the economic, scientific, industrial giant.
00:04:03.000 And the Germans have now lost the opportunity to make a decision regarding their own destiny.
00:04:09.000 So when Germans start to freeze and Germans run out of food this winter, and this winter is supposed to be a bad one, they don't have much choice.
00:04:18.000 We've taken that away from them.
00:04:20.000 We've said you have to go along with us whether you like it or not, I think.
00:04:24.000 So the way that this is progressing, I'm afraid that this is a mass escalation event.
00:04:29.000 I mean, knowing how the American government works, I said yesterday, I don't trust the government.
00:04:35.000 And unfortunately, they're going to have to prove to me they weren't even either aware or involved in damaging this pipeline, considering just as you went through the process of elimination, which was the smartest way to go about doing this.
00:04:47.000 If America was aware or involved in bombing this pipeline, what does that mean?
00:04:52.000 Is that an act of war?
00:04:54.000 From the vantage point of Moscow, they could interpret this as an act of war.
00:04:58.000 There's no question about it.
00:05:00.000 This is designed not just to hurt Germany and our allies in Western Europe, but it's designed to hurt Russia. 0.79
00:05:09.000 And the Russians could regard this as essentially a Kazas belly. 0.71
00:05:13.000 But thus far, Putin has chosen not to do that.
00:05:17.000 Now, what is happening that Americans are not aware of is that there is a tremendous military buildup now in and around southeastern Ukraine, in the western part of Russia, in Belorussia.
00:05:31.000 Thousands, tens of thousands of troops have now been released from their duties elsewhere in Russia by the arrival of reservists to take over their missions.
00:05:39.000 That means most of the regular Russian army can now be employed against Ukraine.
00:05:45.000 I think that's coming.
00:05:46.000 So I think what Putin will try to do is end this as quickly as possible over the next few months.
00:05:53.000 And we, on the other hand, are going to continue, I guess, to refuse to negotiate because we've made it impossible for the Ukrainians to come to terms with it. 0.65
00:06:02.000 Now, the good news is that the Ukrainian chief of staff and the Russian chief of staff allegedly spoke to each other on the phone within the last 24 to 48 hours.
00:06:12.000 And they talked about how to end the conflict.
00:06:15.000 But at the same time, Mr. Zelensky continues to drop hints with the media of just how desperate Ukraine is.
00:06:22.000 He said that he's got scientists and engineers prepared to work to build a dirty bomb utilizing spent uranium fuel for the purpose of driving the Russians back or containing them or stopping them.
00:06:35.000 All sorts of crazy things are coming out of Kiev.
00:06:38.000 And they're engaged in trying to take this town of Liman in the south of Ukraine, which they think is a linchpin in the Russian operation.
00:06:47.000 I'm not sure it is, but he's ordered his generals to take it regardless of how many casualties they're sustaining.
00:06:55.000 And the Ukrainians over the last month or so have taken tens of thousands of casualties, killed and wounded.
00:07:01.000 It's a bad situation.
00:07:02.000 It really needs to stop.
00:07:04.000 And what we really need from Washington is leadership to intervene to bring about peace talks.
00:07:10.000 Well, we don't have that leadership.
00:07:12.000 And anything Zelensky says, I believe, is vetted or supplied by the Central Intelligence Agency first.
00:07:17.000 I mean, they're in perfect harmony, in my own personal opinion.
00:07:21.000 But so you've said before, and this is where I get a little confused, Colonel, that Ukraine is about to lose this war.
00:07:27.000 And I had a debate with a senator recently.
00:07:30.000 And I said, they said, oh, no, no, my intelligence shows that Ukraine is taking ground, that they're pushing.
00:07:35.000 And this is a United States Senator on a very important committee.
00:07:37.000 I'm not going to say who.
00:07:39.000 And then, of course, so he's arguing from a position of authority.
00:07:41.000 So how am I supposed to push back against that, right?
00:07:44.000 I say, well, I don't know about that.
00:07:45.000 He said, no, no, no, it's just a matter of time before Russia surrenders.
00:07:50.000 Well, the first data point, I think, is that since 24 February, Ukraine has been winning the war.
00:07:58.000 All you have to do is go back and listen to CNN, NBC, MSNBC, even Fox, and the usual suspects, retired generals, and hawks, left or right, neocons, have all been coming on since February, telling us Ukrainians are winning.
00:08:15.000 The Ukrainians are winning.
00:08:16.000 Ukrainians are winning.
00:08:18.000 Well, look at the map.
00:08:19.000 Look at where the Russians are. 1.00
00:08:20.000 The Russians have taken 90% of the territory that contains Russian-speaking people.
00:08:28.000 This was always what they said they were going to do, go in there, eliminate the Ukrainian military, and at the same time, turn around and restore the rights before the law of Russian citizens.
00:08:39.000 Well, now they're there.
00:08:40.000 They're holding referenda.
00:08:42.000 87 to 95% of the population is coming out to vote.
00:08:46.000 The only thing that is annoying the Russians who are voting to become part of Russia in eastern Ukraine is the periodic shelling by Ukrainian forces to try and disrupt the referendum.
00:08:58.000 So I think the Russians are very definitely in the driver's seat. 1.00
00:09:01.000 Second thing is that we don't have any evidence for massive casualties on the Russian side.
00:09:06.000 Those were always claims that were made, but we haven't been able to prove any of it.
00:09:12.000 And right now, most observers think that the Russians have lost somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 dead, which over the period of time, considering that they were outnumbered from the beginning, is not unreasonable.
00:09:24.000 But the most recent estimates for Ukrainian dead are now exceeding 80,000.
00:09:29.000 Some people think it could be as much as 100,000.
00:09:32.000 And we do know that the hospitals in Ukraine are bursting at the seams.
00:09:37.000 What nobody seems to want to accept is the fact that Putin did not want to wage total war on Ukraine.
00:09:44.000 Putin wanted to go in, make his point, and then have negotiations.
00:09:48.000 We've made that impossible.
00:09:50.000 And so he's had to continue fighting until such time as he controls everything that he thinks is important.
00:09:57.000 And that will probably include Odessa down south that turns Ukraine into a landlocked country.
00:10:02.000 And I suspect they'll go back up to Kharkov once they finished up in the south. 0.98
00:10:07.000 But now we have forces converging on Ukraine from white Russia, from Velorussia in the north, and more Russian forces preparing to move into Ukraine and join those that are fighting at the moment.
00:10:18.000 And the Russian population is delighted because the Russian population has always expressed frustration with the failure to go in with a sledgehammer at the beginning.
00:10:28.000 But that was not done because, again, he did not want to kill large numbers of people or do damage in the country.
00:10:36.000 But no one wants to accept that in the West.
00:10:38.000 We've permanently demonized him and Russia. 1.00
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00:12:01.000 From defensenews.com, Congress to vote on $12.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, another one which would bring the total well over $70 to $80 billion.
00:12:13.000 With us is Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:12:15.000 Colonel, where is all this money going?
00:12:18.000 Well, most of it does not leave the United States, Charlie.
00:12:21.000 Most of it is transferred to DOD, which is compensated for the equipment that we pull out of stocks and ship overseas to Ukraine.
00:12:30.000 And that cash in turn then finds its way back into the defense industries.
00:12:35.000 And significant cuts, obviously, go to their representatives on the hill, people in Congress, in the Senate, and so forth, who are enabling this enormous cash transfer.
00:12:47.000 I mean, and so yet the UNIPARTY in Washington, D.C. continues to approve it, and never received a full audit of where all this money goes, only further escalating the conflict.
00:13:00.000 And so, I guess the question we asked yesterday is: who stands to benefit from bombing this pipeline?
00:13:07.000 The best answer I have is the military-industrial complex, isn't that right?
00:13:10.000 The further escalation of this conflict.
00:13:12.000 Well, I suppose so.
00:13:13.000 I mean, it's hard for me to believe that escalating this conflict to the strategic level with Russia is somehow or another going to benefit the United States or Europe.
00:13:24.000 In fact, I'm concerned about a direct confrontation with the Russians. 1.00
00:13:28.000 And the Russians are very different from Americans. 1.00
00:13:31.000 Most Americans right now are not paying any attention to what's happening in Eastern Europe.
00:13:36.000 They're paying attention to the hurricane and the damage inflicted on Naples and Tampa and other towns in Florida.
00:13:42.000 As a result, nobody's asking any hard questions, and the people on the hill are just sort of bloviating and repeating in ad nauseum things that aren't true, which they're being told by their handlers, this is what you need to say.
00:13:56.000 It's really, it's really depressing.
00:13:58.000 So I think we could end up in a war with Russia. 0.80
00:14:01.000 I don't think that's impossible any longer.
00:14:03.000 I used to think it was.
00:14:05.000 Now I no longer think it is.
00:14:06.000 And to this, you've got to add the sort of suicidal path that Poland is on, because the Poles are the one people in Europe right now who seem to be excited about going to war with Russia. 0.93
00:14:16.000 And for those in the audience that know anything about Eastern Europe, these three groups of people, Ukrainians, Russians, and Poles, have fought each other repeatedly over many centuries.
00:14:26.000 So this is kind of a tribal war, which raises questions about why we're involved to begin with.
00:14:33.000 Yeah, I don't think we've received a good answer to that.
00:14:35.000 Putin is saying that this is the end of the unipolar world and the rise of a multipolar world.
00:14:41.000 What does that mean for America?
00:14:43.000 Well, I think he's been saying this for some time, and he's not alone.
00:14:47.000 You've got leadership in India, in the Middle East, in Africa, South America, all being pointing to the fact that whereas 60, 70, 80 years ago, we represented about half the gross national product of the planet.
00:15:04.000 Today, we've dwindled down to about 24, 25% and falling.
00:15:09.000 In other words, the world has recovered from the Second World War. 0.68
00:15:13.000 And nobody seems to understand how devastating that war was.
00:15:16.000 It was devastating for everybody but us.
00:15:19.000 We sustained very little damage, so we were on top for a very long time as a result of the growth in our scientific industrial base.
00:15:27.000 We've shot ourselves in the foot now repeatedly.
00:15:30.000 You know, the sort of reckless borrowing that has now given us this enormous sovereign national debt, it's put the whole world at risk right now.
00:15:39.000 All you have to do is look at the stock markets.
00:15:42.000 And when it comes to oil, coal, and gas, that's 80% of the world's energy.
00:15:48.000 And we seem to be determined to ensure that much of the world doesn't have access to it.
00:15:53.000 So, you know, this is a catastrophe that's looming right now.
00:15:57.000 It's financial, it's economic, it's resource-oriented.
00:16:00.000 And the whole world is saying enough, we've had enough of this. 0.99
00:16:03.000 The only people that are enthusiastic, if you will, about this war with Russia, which is senseless and stupid, are the people that are governing much of Western Europe and North America. 0.99
00:16:15.000 Once you get past them, there's not much support out there. 0.99
00:16:18.000 About 30 seconds remaining, Colonel.
00:16:20.000 You said that Putin is going to try to make a big move to end this soon.
00:16:22.000 What does that look like?
00:16:24.000 Well, I think he's going to bring in a few hundred thousand troops.
00:16:28.000 How many will be combat and support?
00:16:30.000 I don't know, but it seems that those forces are showing up.
00:16:33.000 It will take time to position them.
00:16:34.000 But again, the reservists, the principal role they have is replacing regular troops all around the country that can be then concentrated in Ukraine.
00:16:43.000 And I think he wants to come to an agreement with the Ukrainians, and he knows that we won't support it. 1.00
00:16:48.000 In the meantime, the Germans, it's not just oil and coal and gas and so forth for them.
00:16:53.000 They shut down their nuclear power plants.
00:16:56.000 They shut down their, you know, their reliance on coal.
00:16:59.000 You can't do that if you're going to be hostile to a country that holds your destiny in their hands.
00:17:05.000 There was no thinking, no forethought, nothing.
00:17:08.000 And by the way, I don't see there's much thinking here either.
00:17:10.000 I don't see any strategy other than harm Russia. 0.99
00:17:14.000 And the only thing we've succeeded in doing is harming ourselves and our lives.
00:17:18.000 That's so true.
00:17:19.000 Colonel Douglas McGregor, thank you so much as always.
00:17:21.000 Thank you.
00:17:22.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:17:23.000 Appreciate it.
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00:18:41.000 We were talking for some time here about the midterm elections and how it's starting to trend better, but we got to put in the work.
00:18:47.000 We have to put in the work.
00:18:49.000 You got to do your 10 by 10.
00:18:50.000 You got to find 10 people who find 10 people to go vote.
00:18:53.000 But I always ask people, they say, Charlie, I want to save the Republic.
00:18:56.000 We actually had this at a turning point event recently.
00:18:57.000 I said, how many doors are you knocking on?
00:18:59.000 Well, I don't knock on doors.
00:19:00.000 Well, then you're not doing what you need to do.
00:19:02.000 To help us walk through this and also just rank choice voting and all things politics is the mastermind behind turning point action.
00:19:08.000 Tyler Boyer, who actually joins us remotely, first time in a while.
00:19:12.000 Tyler, welcome back to the program.
00:19:14.000 Hey, what's up, Charlie?
00:19:15.000 We're on the road just getting ready for another 30 to 40 events this month, knocking doors, tens of thousands of doors every weekend with turning point action.
00:19:24.000 So we're excited about what's coming up here in the key target states.
00:19:29.000 It's great.
00:19:29.000 It's tpaction.com.
00:19:31.000 And so before we get into some of the specifics of kind of what's going on, Tyler, walk us through the events this weekend, the Super Saturday that we're having here in Arizona.
00:19:41.000 Yeah, so we actually have an important one coming up right not far from our headquarters in Mesa, Arizona, where we are knocking doors in a key target area in Mesa.
00:19:52.000 What a lot of people don't realize has happened in many of these key target states, the Democrats had known and focused on redistricting in a big way.
00:20:02.000 And so Arizona has been at the epicenter of the redistricting battle.
00:20:07.000 And there's about four districts in Arizona that are purple.
00:20:12.000 Yeah, they're very close to being overtaken by Democrats.
00:20:16.000 And that was intentional for the next 10 years.
00:20:19.000 And so essentially what we're doing is making sure we're focusing on those areas first to hold those as Republican and conservative and put those in conservative hands and help save the state.
00:20:30.000 And that's happening not just in Arizona, but in Georgia, in Michigan, and Wisconsin, Ohio, and Florida right now as well.
00:20:39.000 So Tyler, you know, some people are asking, I just got an email here, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:20:44.000 What's the vibe from knocking on doors?
00:20:46.000 Because that's a real grassroots poll, right?
00:20:48.000 And Tyler, you've done a lot of work in developing, you know, helping develop the technology to actually be able to find the voters and profile them and organize the precincts.
00:20:56.000 What's the vibe on the ground like, you know, and also, I know this sounds like a silly question, but walk through the process of what knocking on a door actually is because some people have never done it before.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, no, you know what?
00:21:08.000 That's the number one thing.
00:21:10.000 You know, the last 10 years, 15 years, we've gotten away.
00:21:13.000 A lot of people have gone away from the face-to-face voter contact.
00:21:18.000 And that's been a huge problem.
00:21:20.000 And then obviously that got so much worse during COVID, where basically they scared every old person on the planet into staying at home and not making voter contact, which I think is intentional.
00:21:31.000 They knew the Democrats know that the less older folks that are out talking to their neighbors, the less chance that Republicans have to win in a lot of these key areas.
00:21:41.000 And so we're punching back with younger people and saying, you know what, we're not going to just sit around and wait around.
00:21:47.000 We're going to talk face to face.
00:21:49.000 And the big key thing, if there's one piece that I would say, number one, get out and talk to your neighbors, even if it's just your next door neighbor, your cross-street neighbor, someone that you haven't seen or talked to in a long time.
00:21:59.000 But two is look for the voice that you would have with a neighbor or with, like, I always say, like with a semi-distant family member, someone that you know, but you don't talk to all the time.
00:22:10.000 And work on that voice of people of like, hey, like an uncle, right?
00:22:13.000 Or a second cousin or a cousin of like, hey, you know, that type of voice is what really gets people feeling like they know you and that they're comfortable with you, but also that you're not overstepping your bounds where you're having too lucive conversations about, you know, sensitive topics and politics.
00:22:33.000 Yeah, that's and I think getting back to the grassroots, back to actually talking to people is going to be one of our keys to winning in November and beyond.
00:22:41.000 So let's talk about some of the races, but first we go there.
00:22:43.000 Tyler, you know, we did a whole show on ranked choice voting. 0.66
00:22:46.000 McConnell's putting it on a million dollars behind Lisa Murkowski.
00:22:49.000 Ranked choice voting is the subterranean risk to our republic that no one wants to talk about.
00:22:55.000 You educated me on it and then we've broadcasted it and people are still getting educated on it.
00:22:59.000 And it's spreading very quickly.
00:23:01.000 In fact, some races are not going to go our way probably because of the process.
00:23:05.000 Talk more about ranked choice voting and talk about why we need a unified, just kind of fire alarm campaign to make sure this doesn't spread further.
00:23:14.000 Look, I mean, the Democrats have figured out that they can't win with how elections have run for the last 250 years in America.
00:23:21.000 So what they're doing is they're trying to change everything.
00:23:24.000 They're trying to pack courts.
00:23:26.000 They're trying to implement ranked choice voting in top two primaries.
00:23:30.000 They're trying to control the redistricting process.
00:23:33.000 I mean, this is an all-out attack on our Constitution.
00:23:38.000 And Republicans have to be really prepared.
00:23:40.000 And it's guys like Mitch McConnell who are at the epicenter of just handing the country the keys over to the Democrats.
00:23:48.000 And I say this, I don't say this lightly because we look at Arizona where Mitch McConnell has decided to make almost no investment.
00:23:55.000 He's made almost no investment of the PAC money as leader in Florida because he's scared of Rick Scott.
00:24:02.000 And he's spending a bunch of money on Lisa Markowski, where they've implemented ranked choice voting essentially just to keep Leefson Markowski in office.
00:24:10.000 And as we saw, help get Democrats elected in a solid red state.
00:24:15.000 And I'm going to tell you this right now: every Republican that can hear my voice, that can hear your voice every single day, should be coming out vehemently against ranked choice voting, which essentially hands off the entire electoral system to a single uniparty centrist faction, which is run by Democrats.
00:24:38.000 Yeah, and the ranked choice voting can be very confusing to people, but essentially is whoever is second place or the fake Republican always wins.
00:24:46.000 Is that a good way to summarize it?
00:24:48.000 Yeah, the basic way to summarize is this is whoever is in second or third place in an area may have an advantage because what it does is very similar to nonpartisan elections, which this happens in local elections a lot, is what the Democrats will do is purposely not run a candidate in a Republican area and then all support a moderate candidate when it's a nonpartisan election.
00:25:13.000 So this basically replicates the same thing, where it allows the Democrats to essentially support the worst Republican, which is not that is not inviting more ideas into our society.
00:25:27.000 In fact, it creates fewer ideas.
00:25:29.000 It creates a single party rather than multiple parties.
00:25:32.000 Yeah, it creates a uniparty of people that they want all the same.
00:25:36.000 They agree on everything on trade, immigration, globalism, all this.
00:25:40.000 So Tyler, we did a whole segment on Mike Lee on how McMuffin McMullen is running as this fake conservative independent.
00:25:50.000 You know the Utah landscape very well.
00:25:53.000 You know, we're 100% behind Mike Lee at turning point action.
00:25:56.000 Walk us through this Utah situation because a recent poll has come out that shows that McMuffin McMullen is down only two points to the great Mike Lee.
00:26:04.000 What are your thoughts?
00:26:06.000 Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing, right?
00:26:08.000 So the same process they're trying to pull in Utah, and they're not at Alaska level yet because they just have implemented ranked choice voting in Utah for primaries.
00:26:17.000 But this is what they want to do in Utah too, because what they want to do is they want to sneakily run people who are independents and then try to try to subvert the Democrat Party or get Democrats on board and support that independent and red states so that they can knock off more conservative members of Congress in your local areas.
00:26:38.000 And this is happening actually in Arizona as well.
00:26:41.000 Not very many people know this, but they're running a McMullen-style candidate against Andy Biggs, former Freedom Caucus chair.
00:26:47.000 That's going to be harder, though, right?
00:26:49.000 Because it's a local race.
00:26:50.000 Am I right? 0.99
00:26:51.000 Yeah, the guy's a total goofball. 0.99
00:26:53.000 He's running in a district that he doesn't even live in. 0.98
00:26:56.000 We're going to be coming out hard against that guy too in the coming weeks here.
00:27:00.000 But yeah, I mean, we're seeing this happen.
00:27:03.000 This is the reason why I put out a tweet and I said, we're in really big trouble in Utah and Idaho.
00:27:08.000 And people were kind of laughing at me like, oh, my God, Utah's never going to go blue.
00:27:12.000 And Idaho's never going to go.
00:27:13.000 But they're smart.
00:27:14.000 It's not going blue.
00:27:15.000 It's just running a fake, right?
00:27:17.000 It's running.
00:27:17.000 Well, this is how they turn states blue.
00:27:20.000 This is exactly how in a lot of ways that Colorado went down the tubes is that you take over a big city and you run subversive, independent, and moderate candidates.
00:27:32.000 And also the Democrats have control of your state.
00:27:35.000 And so, what, I mean, this is Willard Mitt Romney is one of the people launching behind this.
00:27:35.000 Yeah.
00:27:40.000 And it's also Utah is this very tricky situation because they run on kind of like fake, not fake values, but they appeal to like this fake decency.
00:27:50.000 Like, oh, McMullen will like rise above it. 0.99
00:27:52.000 And it's so synthetic and just it's garbage. 0.93
00:27:55.000 And I mean, some of the emails we got from people, freedom at charliekirk.com. 0.51
00:27:59.000 And Tyler, you serve on the RNC and you do a great job.
00:28:02.000 You're one of the conservatives there.
00:28:03.000 They say, why is the RNC not doing something about this in Utah?
00:28:09.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I was a little bit horrified that there wasn't a bigger push to support Mike Lee when the RNC had their meeting in Utah that I was at.
00:28:18.000 Where we actually censured, we actually censured Liz Cheney at that meeting, which helped send her down the tubes while we were there.
00:28:18.000 Unbelievable.
00:28:25.000 And I was happy to join in on that.
00:28:27.000 But like, look, I mean, you're right.
00:28:29.000 It's not very different in Utah from the Midwest, where you have this Midwestern nice, you have this Mormon LDS nice, where it's like the Democrats and these secret backroom deal makers will always take advantage of that and lie to you. 0.71
00:28:46.000 And that's essentially what's happened with this whole Mitt Romney, Jeff Flay, this band of goons who are basically wanting to control and keep power.
00:28:58.000 And they're willing to lie to their entire community and implore decency when the reality is that they're at least decent people.
00:29:06.000 No, they're so sneaky. 0.99
00:29:07.000 They're awful people. 0.90
00:29:08.000 And they're like, well, we're the nice ones. 0.99
00:29:10.000 Like, you're a snake.
00:29:11.000 Yeah, Mike Lee is the nicest guy you'll ever meet. 0.93
00:29:14.000 I'm telling you.
00:29:14.000 I said that.
00:29:15.000 Yeah, I said that on the program.
00:29:16.000 You're right.
00:29:17.000 It's the craziest thing because if you were to stack Mitt Romney versus Mike Lee, Mike Lee would win the nice competition every time, right?
00:29:26.000 It would be 10 out of 10, Mike Lee.
00:29:28.000 So, you know, this is the fight that the conservatives have to make, though.
00:29:32.000 And we have the battles that we have to fight is that we have to say no to ranked choice voting.
00:29:35.000 We have to say no to top two.
00:29:37.000 We have to make sure that we have control of the party and conservatives have a strong voice and that they're running their parties in each of these states in order to make sure that we have the most conservative candidates win and run.
00:29:49.000 So super Saturday this weekend, come out, go knock on doors, tpaction.com.
00:29:53.000 It's just right on there.
00:29:53.000 Is that right?
00:29:54.000 Yeah.
00:29:55.000 So all six states that, like I said, are the key target states, Florida, Ohio, where we have to win in 2024, Michigan and Wisconsin, which we have to win in the Midwest, Arizona and Georgia, which are these like purpley areas now.
00:30:09.000 We have events happening every Saturday basically through the month of October.
00:30:12.000 We need you to come out.
00:30:14.000 We need people to knock just 10 doors, knock 25 doors with us.
00:30:18.000 It's going to change the country and save the country.
00:30:20.000 That's right.
00:30:21.000 tpaction.com.
00:30:22.000 Tyler, stay right there.
00:30:23.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
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00:30:37.000 We are 40 days out from election day.
00:30:40.000 Ballots have already been sent out in a couple states.
00:30:42.000 In the next couple, week and a half, ballots are going to be widespread sent out.
00:30:46.000 In about two weeks, ballots will be sent out in Arizona.
00:30:49.000 So we are now in voting now that we've expanded this ridiculous thing of election month.
00:30:54.000 So we are on the case here on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:30:56.000 The best candidates, the important messages.
00:30:58.000 There's a lot of different races we're looking at here that are very important.
00:31:03.000 Adam Laxalt is doing very well in Nevada.
00:31:05.000 We're keeping our eye closely on that.
00:31:07.000 Ron Johnson up in Wisconsin.
00:31:09.000 Georgia is a tight, tight race.
00:31:12.000 The snake warnock is barely up a little bit.
00:31:15.000 It depends on what poll that you're tracking.
00:31:17.000 But these polls, you can't trust them.
00:31:18.000 You got to add five, add six to them.
00:31:20.000 I think you're going to see a very big substantial and legitimate late break.
00:31:27.000 And we're seeing this coupled with some very troubling economic news.
00:31:32.000 You kind of look at some of the story beneath the story.
00:31:35.000 CarMax, which is a, I think it's mostly used cars.
00:31:39.000 I've used CarMax once and I really liked using it.
00:31:40.000 I don't know if it's new cars or not.
00:31:42.000 Yeah, it's mostly used cars.
00:31:43.000 That's right.
00:31:44.000 They're down 23% today in trading.
00:31:48.000 What does that mean?
00:31:50.000 That means CarMax, that did $18 billion in revenue last year, is collapsing off a cliff.
00:31:57.000 Collapsing.
00:31:59.000 What's the significance?
00:32:00.000 That retail purchasing has gone down and that regular everyday Americans are cutting back.
00:32:08.000 I think this is a very, very, it's bad economically.
00:32:10.000 I hate it.
00:32:11.000 I hate seeing people suffer.
00:32:12.000 It's very bad for Democrats as well.
00:32:14.000 We've predicted this on our program for some time, and it's very sad.
00:32:17.000 I think there's going to be a major labor market collapse in the next six months.
00:32:22.000 We're seeing it on all retail spending, on inflation.
00:32:24.000 This CarMax news is a canary in the coal mine.
00:32:29.000 I'm telling you.
00:32:29.000 You see companies like this go down 23% in the open market in the market because of their miss on earnings.
00:32:37.000 What comes after a miss on earnings?
00:32:40.000 Layoffs.
00:32:41.000 Tyler, what races are you looking at?
00:32:42.000 What are the races that you don't think are getting enough national attention?
00:32:46.000 Well, I mean, a lot of these congressional races are just being totally overlooked right now.
00:32:51.000 You know, one of the most important races I think that's going to be a real bellwether type race is J.R. Majewski that is in Ohio.
00:33:00.000 And so we have Toledo that we're looking at, where JR actually just, you know, has been kind of punked a little bit by, again, the NRCC and the national.
00:33:11.000 Yeah, they're leaving them out to dry.
00:33:12.000 I don't understand this.
00:33:13.000 This is crazy.
00:33:14.000 It makes no sense.
00:33:15.000 It makes no sense.
00:33:16.000 And here's the reason why it makes no sense, Charlie: is that we have these six turning point action and turning point pack are operating in these six key target states.
00:33:25.000 It's very simple.
00:33:26.000 This isn't brainiac work.
00:33:27.000 So Ohio and Florida, we must win in 2024.
00:33:30.000 You can't win the White House without those two states.
00:33:33.000 And so you would think that that would be the base of the foundation for where we would want to invest the most amount of money in order to ensure that 2024 was going to be rock solid.
00:33:41.000 We want Democrats to have to fight and take back these seats in 2024.
00:33:45.000 If they're spending money in those states, because we've won a ton of ground in 2022, that helps us.
00:33:51.000 And so J.R. Majewski and our friend Madison Gilbert, Jesse Yoda Gilbert, and also an Akron, that's a big deal.
00:34:00.000 If we win both those seats, we're going to have taking ground away from the Democrats that really should be theirs.
00:34:07.000 And that helps us ahead of 2024.
00:34:09.000 Yeah, I just, you know, on so many different levels, I'm just, I don't understand this J.R. Majuski thing.
00:34:16.000 The media is going after him for allegedly misrepresenting his military record, which obviously we don't support, but we're in the midst of an election.
00:34:23.000 You want him or a Democrat?
00:34:24.000 And then you got Da Nang Dick Blumenthal from Connecticut, who just lied about going to Vietnam and no one ever mentions it.
00:34:31.000 The whole thing is wild.
00:34:32.000 What other races are you looking at?
00:34:34.000 Yeah, so Florida is super important.
00:34:37.000 Ana Paulina. 0.87
00:34:38.000 So to give you an idea, Ana, who is the work for us at one point at Turning Point USA on the C3 side, she left and went to run for Congress.
00:34:47.000 She ran against this nasty guy that's not running for governor.
00:34:51.000 We won't even mention his name because he's going to get beat so bad by Governor DeSantis.
00:34:57.000 But she ran against him in a blue district.
00:35:01.000 After redistricting, her district is now red thanks to Ron DeSantis signing only Good Maps.
00:35:06.000 And so she should win.
00:35:08.000 It's about an eight plus advantage for her in a district right now in a year where she should end up winning by double digits.
00:35:16.000 But look, I mean, the Democrat, even in that district, has raised about 10 times more money than she has. 0.58
00:35:21.000 And the Democrats are just flooding these races with money, just hoping that throwing money at it will help them.
00:35:26.000 One of the good news is that these consultants are just bleeding them dry, not different than how the establishment operates on the Republican side.
00:35:34.000 And so that's good for us.
00:35:36.000 And we should be able to pick those up.
00:35:38.000 Here in Arizona, we have three races that are incredibly important in purple districts that we're going to be taking at least two of those away from Democrats, it looks like.
00:35:49.000 And then one right where our headquarters is with Kelly Cooper in an area in Awatuke, Chandler, and Mesa that really should be a Republican-leaning district.
00:36:00.000 And so we're hoping that Republicans and Hispanic voters turn out big.
00:36:04.000 And that's where our big focus has been with messages about gas that you brought up.
00:36:09.000 Because, I mean, you just saw the numbers today.
00:36:12.000 Gas is breaking $5 a gallon in Arizona in some areas.
00:36:16.000 And this directly impacts the small business community, specifically the Hispanic community in Arizona.
00:36:23.000 And so this is like a no-brainer.
00:36:25.000 We have to talk about Republicans have to capitalize and conservatives have to capitalize.
00:36:30.000 And we're leading that charge in Arizona.
00:36:32.000 Very important.
00:36:33.000 tpaction.com.
00:36:34.000 I think the trend is our friend. 0.97
00:36:36.000 We got to push back against these Republican snakes.
00:36:38.000 But Tyler is a little bearish at times because he's real.
00:36:41.000 He's a very real person.
00:36:43.000 But I think recently he's starting to be optimistic.
00:36:45.000 I think if we don't let these, right?
00:36:47.000 20 seconds, Tyler.
00:36:48.000 Do you agree?
00:36:49.000 I think we're finally hitting our stride.
00:36:51.000 I think you're exactly right.
00:36:52.000 Right now we're trending at five plus five.
00:36:54.000 So we're about five points ahead on the generic polls with, I think, five percent turnout.
00:36:58.000 So we have a good shot at winning somewhere between six to ten points in most of these races.
00:37:02.000 That's amazing.
00:37:02.000 And I think that late breakers are going to break for us.
00:37:05.000 I think if we stay on message, we don't let I never want economic suffering to happen, but this economic suffering will help Republicans.
00:37:14.000 We're not, I'm just being very honest.
00:37:15.000 What's about to happen in the next 30 days, it's going to be carnage, the likes of which we've never seen.
00:37:20.000 Tyler, thanks so much.
00:37:22.000 See you soon.
00:37:23.000 Thanks, man.
00:37:24.000 tpaction.com.
00:37:25.000 That is tpaction.com.
00:37:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:37:29.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:32.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:37:33.000 God bless.
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