The Charlie Kirk Show - The Plot to Take Trump Off the Ballot with Mike Davis and Rep. Jim Jordan

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today at the Charlie Kirk Show, we have Jim Jordan join the program to talk about the latest fights in Congress.

00:00:07.000 We also have Mike Davis from Article 3 Project to talk about Donald Trump potentially not being on the ballot in Colorado and other states.

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00:01:37.000 Democracy, the party of democracy.

00:01:42.000 Democracy dies in darkness.

00:01:43.000 We must protect our democracy.

00:01:45.000 Our democracy is at stake.

00:01:47.000 Well, we're not a democracy, but even if we were, isn't part of a democracy voting?

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00:02:04.000 Joining us now is Mike Davis, who has been doing yeoman's work and heroes' work, a story that Steve Bannon deserves a lot of credit for bringing to the forefront.

00:02:13.000 But honestly, this has not been covered in the mainstream media nearly enough.

00:02:17.000 Mike Davis, thank you for taking the time.

00:02:19.000 Tell us what is going on in Colorado for somebody that has no understanding that might be in the shadows of, you know, not really queued in.

00:02:28.000 Walk us through it.

00:02:29.000 So, yeah, the Democrats impeached Trump for nonsense and they indicted him four times for non-crimes.

00:02:37.000 And that made Trump a lot more popular than the Democrats expected.

00:02:41.000 Now it's backfired on them and he is on a glide path to beating Biden on November 5th, 2024.

00:02:47.000 So now what they're trying to do is throw a legal Hail Mary.

00:02:51.000 They're trying to dust off the 14th Amendment passed enacted after the Civil War.

00:02:57.000 Section 3 of the 14th Amendment disqualifies from holding office in the United States those who engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, right?

00:03:10.000 And so the Democrats think that this post-Civil War provision, they're going to apply that to President Trump for January 6th, and they're just going to have their Democrats, judges, and Democrat prosecutors and Democrats lawyers just simply remove President Trump from the ballot based upon this bogus legal theory.

00:03:33.000 They're going to start in a blue state like Colorado like they're doing this week, where they have this biased judge, this biased Democrat judge who donated to a group that sought to throw out of office Republicans who supported President Trump on January 6th.

00:03:52.000 She donated to this group, and then somehow she's sitting on this trial this week to try to throw President Trump off the ballot for January 6th.

00:04:01.000 President Trump's lawyers filed a motion to recuse her.

00:04:04.000 She denied that.

00:04:05.000 She said, Oh, I made this donation.

00:04:08.000 I don't remember making it, but I could be fair regardless.

00:04:10.000 Well, that's not the legal standard.

00:04:12.000 Whether she thinks she can be fair is not the legal standard. 0.99

00:04:15.000 It's whether the public thinks she can be fair. 0.99

00:04:17.000 And I don't know how any reasonable person thinks a Democrat judge can be fair if she donated to an anti-Trump January 6th political action committee, and now she's sitting on his trial. 0.71

00:04:28.000 They're going to try to get him, they're going to have this judge disqualify him from the Colorado ballot.

00:04:33.000 It's going to go to the Colorado Supreme Court on an expedited basis.

00:04:37.000 And I presume that these left-wing judges on the Colorado Supreme Court will keep him off the ballot.

00:04:42.000 They'll disqualify him.

00:04:44.000 And then the Supreme Court of the United States, which has discretionary review, will have to decide whether to take this case or not.

00:04:51.000 They have to take this case because these are Republic-ending tactics by the Democrats, but we'll see what happens.

00:04:57.000 And the Democrats will use the precedent set here in Colorado, and they'll use it in swing states like Michigan.

00:05:03.000 And so we're going into very dangerous legal territory as a country.

00:05:07.000 So, Mike, I want you to, as fairly, I know it's hard, as fairly as possible, make their argument for our audience.

00:05:15.000 Okay.

00:05:18.000 I don't want to exaggerate anything.

00:05:19.000 What are they saying in court as the reason for why Trump should not be on the ballot?

00:05:26.000 I want our audience to hear it as fairly as possible of the arguments that they are making.

00:05:32.000 Just repeat that and let's zero in on that, Mike Davis.

00:05:35.000 So they brought in two Capitol police officers to testify about the riots that happened on January 6th.

00:05:44.000 And then they brought in an expert witness, a sociologist who got his PhD in Vegas.

00:05:50.000 And he is testifying that when Trump said peaceful, he didn't really mean it.

00:05:58.000 And when Trump said fight, he meant insurrection.

00:06:02.000 And unlike Democrats, when Democrats say peaceful, it has a different meaning.

00:06:06.000 And when Democrats say fight, it has different.

00:06:08.000 Is this a 14th Amendment thing then?

00:06:10.000 Sorry to interrupt you, Mike.

00:06:11.000 Is this all centered around the 14th Amendment?

00:06:13.000 No one shall become president who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or assistance thereof.

00:06:19.000 Okay.

00:06:19.000 Yeah, under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, they're saying that because January 6th was an insurrection and Trump instigated that, that he should be disqualified under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

00:06:35.000 Okay, so a couple questions.

00:06:37.000 First of all, isn't it true, Mike, that they tried this and failed with Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia?

00:06:45.000 They workshopped this, right?

00:06:47.000 And they played around with this with congressional, they even tried with Madison Cawthorne with some point, right?

00:06:53.000 So talk, Mike, how this has not been some one-off thing.

00:06:57.000 This has been workshopped both in the courts, but also with the Overton window, where in New Hampshire, for example, there were a series of meetings.

00:07:08.000 Our audience actually stopped it.

00:07:09.000 We got a lot of credit for it in the media, where Lawrence Tribe had this Atlantic piece, and there were, you know, elections are bad for democracy.

00:07:19.000 You know, take Trump off the ballot.

00:07:20.000 It came out of nowhere, allegedly.

00:07:23.000 So talk about how this is not just a mistake.

00:07:26.000 This is coordinated and precise.

00:07:30.000 Yeah, there's actually a website.

00:07:31.000 It's called lawfaremedia.org that shows their lawfare.

00:07:35.000 It shows where these Section 3 litigations are happening all over the country.

00:07:40.000 And it's like in 20 different states around our country where they bring these lawsuits.

00:07:46.000 They were unsuccessful in New Hampshire and Florida.

00:07:50.000 They had their cases dismissed by the plaintiffs in Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Maine.

00:07:57.000 But there are very active cases all over the country.

00:08:00.000 And this is the first case in Colorado, in Denver, that's actually going to trial, right?

00:08:06.000 And they're trying to set this precedent with this biased Democrat judge in Colorado that they can disqualify him under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

00:08:16.000 And then they're going to use this precedent.

00:08:18.000 in states all over the country.

00:08:21.000 They're going to use it, try to use it in Michigan, for example.

00:08:24.000 And the problem with their legal argument is this, that the country ratified the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments after the Civil War, the post-Civil War amendments to outlaw slavery, to provide due process and equal protection to the freed slaves and to provide voting rights to the freed male slaves.

00:08:44.000 And as part of that 14th Amendment, Section 3 was to disqualify because you saw Confederate sympathizers who engaged in insurrection or rebellion during the Civil War were winning elected office.

00:08:55.000 They were being appointed as judges in state and federal offices.

00:08:59.000 And so they enacted Section 3 so they can get rid of these Confederates insurrectionists because they were undermining the Civil War effort, the post-Civil War Reconstruction in the Union.

00:09:09.000 And in order, there's a case from 1869 that's very clear.

00:09:14.000 Chief Justice Samuel Chase wrote this opinion that in order to disqualify under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment for insurrection or rebellion, Congress has to pass a federal criminal statute, which Congress did in 1870.

00:09:27.000 And you have to have a U.S. attorney bring federal charges in federal court with a federal judge and a federal jury with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, a unanimous jury verdict.

00:09:38.000 The judge has to convict, and it has to be upheld on appeal under this specific federal criminal statute that deals with insurrection or rebellion.

00:09:47.000 They have not done that with Trump because that evidence does not exist, despite tens of millions of dollars that the January 6th Committee spent looking for this evidence, despite tens of millions of dollars that the Biden Justice Department, including Jack Smith, has spent looking for this evidence.

00:10:02.000 They know that they do not have evidence of insurrection or rebellion, but they fear that President Trump is going to beat Biden like a drum on November 5th.

00:10:10.000 So this is their legal hail marriage. 0.56

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00:10:25.000 And that's why this has to go to SCOTUS to settle this.

00:10:28.000 The Trump derangement is so high that the sooner SCOTUS can rule on this, hopefully the sooner that we can kind of just calm all these down.

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00:13:45.000 Mike, they're trying to use the 14th Amendment to kick Trump off the ballot, the party of democracy.

00:13:51.000 This will then end up getting to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:13:55.000 But let's just broaden this for a second.

00:13:57.000 As we are doing this broadcast, it is conceivable that in the coming days, Trump will not be allowed on the ballot on Colorado.

00:14:04.000 Donald Trump Jr. is testifying in a New York civil trial right now as we are doing this broadcast.

00:14:11.000 Donald Trump is facing 700 years in federal prison.

00:14:15.000 This is so damaging, unhealthy, not just unhealthy, it's corrosive.

00:14:19.000 There's no going back from this, Mike.

00:14:21.000 And what I fear more than anything else is the normalization of this.

00:14:26.000 We're acting as if this is just fine.

00:14:28.000 Even conservatives I talk to, oh, yeah, you know, Trump just has to beat this stuff in court.

00:14:35.000 Mike, riff on this for a little bit.

00:14:37.000 Yeah, I mean, what the Democrats are doing here, think about this.

00:14:39.000 They impeached him twice.

00:14:40.000 They indicted him four times.

00:14:42.000 They're trying to bankrupt his family business for the non-fraud of a businessman paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks in full on time with interest as agreed.

00:14:52.000 And somehow that's fraud.

00:14:53.000 And you see his poll numbers going up.

00:14:56.000 And so now they're trying to gag him these unconstitutional, illegal gags on a criminal defendant, which is just absolutely un-American. 0.82

00:15:06.000 They're going to try to throw him in jail for speaking out against about the judge, the prosecutor, the court staff, the witnesses, the process, which he's absolutely allowed to do under the First Amendment that even the ACLU was forced to come out and even argue.

00:15:22.000 And now they want to just take him off the ballot.

00:15:26.000 Nothing screams democracy like trying to bankrupt, throw in prison for 700 years, and just take off the ballot your political opponent.

00:15:39.000 These are republic-ending tactics by the Democrats.

00:15:42.000 Like this is not our parents' or grandparents' Democrat Party.

00:15:45.000 These aren't liberals who love America.

00:15:48.000 These are leftists.

00:15:49.000 These are Marxists, and they are playing for keeps and they are destroying our country with their Trump derangements, right?

00:15:57.000 And these Republicans who are sitting back and saying, oh, this is all going to go away when Trump goes away.

00:16:04.000 They don't understand the 100 million people who have died over 100 years of Marxism.

00:16:11.000 Yeah.

00:16:11.000 And if they say that this will go away when Trump goes away, then they're acknowledging that this is bad.

00:16:17.000 And so they don't want to fight something that is evil and bad because they hate Trump.

00:16:22.000 So the normalization of this is so damaging.

00:16:22.000 Yeah.

00:16:26.000 The lawfare continues on every possible way.

00:16:30.000 So let me ask you, Mike, just going back to the Colorado case, do you feel confident if the Supreme Court hears it that Donald Trump will be allowed on the ballot?

00:16:38.000 Because if this happens in Colorado, this will spread like wildfire to almost every swing state.

00:16:44.000 They will try to win the 2024 election before a vote is even cast.

00:16:50.000 Well, we're going to see the end of our republic as we know it if you can just take the leading presidential candidates off the ballot based upon a bogus, illegal, unconstitutional legal theory.

00:17:03.000 So if the Supreme Court wants to keep our country together, they're going to have to decide to take this case and they're going to have to follow the Constitution.

00:17:12.000 And the Constitution has been very clear.

00:17:16.000 There's a case from 1869 from Chief Justice Samuel Chase that's very clear that if you want to take Trump off the ballot, if you want to disqualify him, you have to do it through a federal criminal statute and not some goofball biased Democrat judge in Denver, Colorado, or some partisan Secretary of State in Michigan or some other state.

00:17:38.000 You have to actually follow the Constitution and follow the law, right? 0.98

00:17:42.000 And so let's just hope that these Supreme Court justices with their lifetime tenure and their pay protection, let's hope that they find the courage to do their damn job. 0.98

00:17:53.000 Yeah, it just, it's remarkable. 0.95

00:17:55.000 They talk about the power of democracy and they don't want you to be able to choose your president or even your nominee.

00:18:05.000 Mike Davis, Article 3 Project.

00:18:07.000 Thank you so much.

00:18:08.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:19:15.000 Joining us now is Congressman Jim Jordan.

00:19:18.000 Congressman, welcome to the program.

00:19:19.000 I was pushing for you to become speaker, but it seems as if you're happy with this result.

00:19:23.000 Walk us through the last couple weeks and tell us about our new speaker, Speaker Johnson.

00:19:27.000 Mike Johnson is one solid individual.

00:19:30.000 I think he's a Christian fellow.

00:19:32.000 He's been a member of our committee, both of the full judiciary committee, the weaponization select committee.

00:19:38.000 He chaired the subcommittee on the Constitution.

00:19:40.000 I mean, he's argued cases in front of the Supreme Court, a constitutional scholar, just a great guy, a great friend.

00:19:45.000 And I think he's going to do an outstanding job.

00:19:48.000 And Charlie already seen it when he said he wanted to separate out the support for Israel and have a pay for that, you know, going after the IRS, which is, I think, a great place to get the revenue to help our dearest and closest ally, the state of Israel.

00:20:03.000 I think he's already shown what kind of leader he is.

00:20:05.000 So, yeah, Mike's going to do a great job.

00:20:08.000 So, let's talk about the looming continuing resolution fight.

00:20:11.000 I know that there was obviously a lot of time spent on the speakers race, and we want to do these 12 different appropriation bills.

00:20:18.000 Walk us through how the Christmas break, the looming Christmas break, potentially kicking this January 15th.

00:20:23.000 What should we expect?

00:20:24.000 How do you think things are going to play out in the next couple of weeks?

00:20:26.000 Well, what we're trying to avoid, what Speaker Johnson's trying to avoid, I think all of us are, is this big, ugly package that gets thrown in our lap on Christmas Eve.

00:20:34.000 That's been the norm for like the last 15 years.

00:20:37.000 So, we want to do the individual bills where we can focus on those.

00:20:40.000 You can get a real focus on the policy riders, some of the language we want.

00:20:43.000 Like, we got some good language in the bills coming out of committee on the like in the Department of Homeland Security, where we say, you know, no money can be used to set up a disinformation governance board.

00:20:52.000 No money can be used to censor the speech of American citizens.

00:20:54.000 You know, that kind of good policy language we want in there.

00:20:57.000 You get a better chance to get that language, keep it in the bill if you're focusing on the individual bill as we're supposed to do.

00:21:04.000 So, that's the focus here.

00:21:06.000 We'll see how this shakes out.

00:21:08.000 But I know Speaker Johnson has said, no way are we, does he want to take, do we want to take an omnibus bill, like I said, which typically winds up on our desk on Christmas Eve?

00:21:17.000 Yeah, and that the issue, of course, is what the most graft, as you know, Congressman, you've been around for a while, and the worst deals are cut because of external Christmas pressure.

00:21:28.000 So, it wouldn't, I know, Speaker Johnson, I guess it would be better to kick it to January than to have a bad deal before Christmas.

00:21:36.000 But is there any appetite to make the old bulls in the Senate work through Christmas and not shut down the government for those couple days?

00:21:46.000 I mean, I think you're hitting the key is individual bills because when it gets all thrown together, you don't get the scrutiny that you get for the earmarks that are the member-directed spending.

00:21:57.000 You don't get the scrutiny on that kind of stuff that you do.

00:21:59.000 If it's an individual bill and you're focused on that bill and you got a conference committee, you're so we want to get to that.

00:22:04.000 I'm not sure how long that's going to take us because we've done most of our bills over here.

00:22:08.000 We've done 70% of the funding we've already passed for the government.

00:22:12.000 The Senate hasn't done much of anything.

00:22:14.000 So, there's a time concern.

00:22:16.000 I get it.

00:22:17.000 But, whatever we can do to get us to individually focus on those separate bills, I think is the right way to go.

00:22:24.000 How that shakes out, if it's January 15th, if it's December 15th, I mean, I don't think December 15th works because that's just setting us up for this Christmas Eve scenario like we've had every other year.

00:22:34.000 It's got to be, I think, something a little longer.

00:22:36.000 But we'll leave that up to the conference and Speaker Johnson.

00:22:38.000 But I know he's committed to the same goal you and I want.

00:22:41.000 So, the House has it passed that Ukraine bill with the IRS cuts yet, or was that going to be passed?

00:22:47.000 What is the status of that?

00:22:49.000 With Israel, that'll be on Friday. 0.98

00:22:51.000 Yeah, and it'll be Israel. 0.72

00:22:52.000 That'll be on Friday.

00:22:53.000 I just actually talked with Speaker Johnson.

00:22:55.000 It looks like it'll be on Friday because we're going to have a few members, I think, not here tomorrow because of President Trump's doing an event.

00:23:04.000 So, I think that'll be on Friday.

00:23:06.000 And then we pass that and we'll send it to the Senate.

00:23:08.000 Then, we need our Senate Republicans to say, hey, we want to support the new speaker.

00:23:13.000 We want to support the Republican leader on Capitol Hill, Speaker Johnson.

00:23:17.000 We want to support that and not try to tie it all together like the White House does with Ukraine and other things and some pretend border.

00:23:24.000 We want real border security and any type of bill that comes later.

00:23:27.000 But we want to focus right now just on helping our dearest and closest ally, the state of Israel.

00:23:32.000 So, Mitch McConnell says it's kind of somewhat dead on arrival.

00:23:37.000 What then?

00:23:38.000 It's just kind of a stalemate on that.

00:23:39.000 What do you think is the way to exert leverage?

00:23:42.000 And I like the idea.

00:23:43.000 Rally the Senate Republicans, try to have some schism in the ranks, but McConnell wants Israel-Ukraine tied together, no IRS cuts.

00:23:53.000 Why should it be dead on arrival?

00:23:54.000 I would say to Leader McConnell.

00:23:56.000 I mean, come on.

00:23:57.000 This is if the House passes this, this is the House Republican position.

00:24:00.000 Why wouldn't Senate Republicans support this?

00:24:03.000 Encourage Chuck Schumer to bring it up that way and get the support to our friend, the state of Israel, just as soon as we possibly can and not tie it to something that's much more controversial, which is the Ukraine and some pretend border solution that may, you know, that that's being talked about.

00:24:19.000 We want real border security.

00:24:21.000 We want some of the language from our HR2 bill that we passed several months ago that was real border security enforcement and real immigration enforcement.

00:24:30.000 We want that kind of legislation.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, so let's talk the border is important, but it's a little deceiving, that just money for the border, because McConnell's floating out maybe a couple billion here, but not expedited catch and release, right?

00:24:44.000 I mean, that's not border funding.

00:24:46.000 That is essentially facilitating more entry into the country.

00:24:50.000 And McConnell and Biden are back channeling right now to try to get Israel-Ukraine and a little bit of the, you know, throwing quote-unquote crumbs to the border issue.

00:24:59.000 What would be a win on the border?

00:25:01.000 What specifically legislatively would actually help?

00:25:04.000 Well, first of all, Charlie, you're 100% right.

00:25:06.000 More money just so you can process faster the unbelievable number of migrants that have come into the country is not the answer. 1.00

00:25:14.000 The answer is to build the wall, to have remain in Mexico policy, to not allow catch and release, and to reform our asylum laws.

00:25:22.000 Those are the elements we had in the bill we passed several months ago through the House.

00:25:26.000 As I said, the strongest immigration enforcement legislation ever.

00:25:29.000 Those are the elements we need in this legislation.

00:25:31.000 You could almost get it down to, if you really had to get it down to one sentence, no money can be used to process or allow to enter into the country any new migrants.

00:25:40.000 You just stop it.

00:25:41.000 So you got to detain them or you have to say, no, you're not allowed to come into the country.

00:25:45.000 That is the key.

00:25:45.000 But there's things you want to do on asylum as well that I think would be very helpful.

00:25:49.000 And of course, you want to build the wall.

00:25:51.000 You want to continue to build the wall.

00:25:52.000 So that's what has to happen, I think, for it to be real immigration enforcement.

00:25:57.000 There have been 2 million some migrants who've come in since Joe Biden's been president that we know about, not counting all the godaways, not everything else, but that we know about.

00:26:05.000 2.3 million migrants.

00:26:08.000 Of those 2.3, only 6,000.

00:26:10.000 Now, think about this.

00:26:11.000 We released this report two weeks ago.

00:26:13.000 Only 6,000 have went through the adjudication process and been removed.

00:26:17.000 Everyone's just being released, not even showing up for their court date.

00:26:21.000 Whenever that court date may be, it may be years off.

00:26:23.000 That's what's happened under Joe Biden.

00:26:25.000 That's what has to change.

00:26:26.000 And just throwing money at the problem is not going to do it.

00:26:28.000 You have to change the law and then enforce it.

00:26:30.000 6,000 out of 2 million that we know of.

00:26:35.000 So just one, I said this yesterday to Chip Roy in my own kind of editorial here, is that from a messaging standpoint, Congressman, every day you should be mentioning Sherrod Brown, Joe Manchin, John Tester, Kirsten Sinema.

00:26:48.000 Senate Republicans, yes, but the ones that are really getting nervous.

00:26:51.000 As you know, Sherrod Brown, he's well liked in Ohio, but with Donald Trump on the top of the ballot in 24, Sherrod Brown is going to be really in a tough spot.

00:27:01.000 Let's put pressure on those Senate Democrats.

00:27:03.000 They haven't done anything.

00:27:04.000 We've got to win all those.

00:27:05.000 They haven't done anything.

00:27:06.000 We've got to win all those.

00:27:07.000 Right.

00:27:07.000 Yes.

00:27:08.000 Win Ohio, win Montana, win West Virginia, win Arizona.

00:27:11.000 We win those four, keep the House, put President Trump back in the White House.

00:27:14.000 Now we can get about doing the thing that the American people care about, putting America first, making sure we're projecting strength around the world from the White House like we did under President Trump and like we're not doing under President Biden.

00:27:24.000 All those things happen, but you're right.

00:27:26.000 Winning those four Senate seats is really, really important.

00:27:30.000 So I don't want to fear monger here, Congressman, but there's more and more chatter and question of who's actually in the interior of our country.

00:27:36.000 What can you share with our audience based on people from the Middle East, potentially Hamas, other sleeper cells that have entered the country?

00:27:43.000 8 million people have illegally entered that we know of under Joe Biden.

00:27:47.000 We don't know who these people are, their backgrounds over 100 different countries.

00:27:50.000 Do you think that there's a chance that there might be unidentified sleeper cells in this country?

00:27:56.000 Not trying to fear monger, just trying to talk the facts of people that entered this country illegally.

00:28:00.000 I mean, boy, I hope not.

00:28:01.000 But when you have that volume of people come into the country, not to mention all the people we don't know about who are the so-called gotaways, when that happens and you have all these different countries and you know that the ones that we have encountered who are on the terrorist watch list, that number is higher than it's ever been.

00:28:18.000 It certainly makes you wonder that, you know, could that be the case?

00:28:22.000 I hope not.

00:28:24.000 But, you know, it's this, again, this is just, I guess, a result of when you have an intentional policy put into place on day one by the Biden administration when they said no more wall, no more remain in Mexico, and no more hold, no more detained.

00:28:39.000 We're going to catch and release.

00:28:40.000 This is what happens.

00:28:42.000 People come from everywhere, and it's probably not out of the realm of possibility that some of these people are really, really bad.

00:28:49.000 And there's also been some incredible developments.

00:28:52.000 There's so much news.

00:28:53.000 I just want to make sure everyone knows there's been some major bombshell revelations with James Comer and oversight.

00:28:59.000 Can you just mention this check made out to Joe Biden directly?

00:29:03.000 This has not received the media attention that it deserves or warrants.

00:29:07.000 Tell us about Joe Biden just getting a check.

00:29:09.000 They might as well just wrote in the memo line, you know, 10% for the big guy.

00:29:14.000 Right.

00:29:15.000 It gets the $200,000 one from his brother, says loan repayment.

00:29:18.000 We can't figure out how this whole loan arrangement worked.

00:29:21.000 Then there's the other one, the $40,000 one with some link to China.

00:29:26.000 There's the brand.

00:29:26.000 There's all this stuff that Mr. Comer has uncovered in the oversight committee.

00:29:30.000 And then what we're trying to do on the judiciary committee is we're looking at the investigation, how that was handled into Hunter Biden.

00:29:35.000 By the way, Charlie, we had an amazing deposition a week and a half ago from Scott Brady, the U.S. attorney in the Western District of Pennsylvania, who was assigned by Attorney General Barr back on January 3rd, 2020 to be the intake and be the filter for all information related to Ukraine and Hunter Biden.

00:29:52.000 Now, he gets his job on January 3rd, but in the course of our deposition, he told us that he didn't learn about the confidential human source who was that 1023 form.

00:30:01.000 He didn't learn about that until six months into his work.

00:30:04.000 The FBI kept that from him.

00:30:06.000 They drugged their feet all the time.

00:30:07.000 They made it tough on him.

00:30:08.000 And he never once was told about the laptop.

00:30:10.000 I asked him during the deposition.

00:30:11.000 I said, when did you learn about the laptop?

00:30:13.000 He said, the day it went public in the news story from the New York Post, October 14th, 2020.

00:30:18.000 So, I mean, think about that.

00:30:20.000 He's supposed to be the guy looking at all this information.

00:30:22.000 And the FBI kept that information from him, even though they had the laptop prior to him ever being assigned that job by the United States Attorney General.

00:30:31.000 So you got that element.

00:30:33.000 You got what Jason Smith has with the whistleblowers.

00:30:35.000 You got what Mr. Comer is doing relative to the bank records and the whole influence peddling scheme, the shell companies, everything else.

00:30:42.000 We're going to compile all that information and see if it warrants moving to actual articles of impeachment at some point.

00:30:48.000 Yeah, so that's my last question.

00:30:49.000 Are we going to see some movements on either impeachment of Biden, Maorcas?

00:30:53.000 Because as you know, time is running out.

00:30:54.000 Speaker Johnson says, hey, you know, we've got to get moving on this.

00:30:58.000 So we have like a 60-day window.

00:31:00.000 Do you think that that's something that might be proceeding?

00:31:03.000 Yeah, we're going to continue to do our work.

00:31:05.000 I always say we've got to be driven by the facts.

00:31:07.000 I do know next week we have David Weiss coming in.

00:31:09.000 We've talked to the U.S. Attorney from the District of Columbia, the U.S. Attorney from the Central District of California.

00:31:14.000 We talked to Mr. Brady.

00:31:15.000 We talked to the top DOJ tax attorney.

00:31:18.000 He was part of the Hunter Biden investigation.

00:31:20.000 Next Tuesday, excuse me, next Wednesday, we will be talking with David Weiss.

00:31:26.000 Congressman Jordan, thank you so much.

00:31:27.000 Keep up the great work and the high energy passion for the country.

00:31:30.000 We appreciate it.

00:31:31.000 Thank you.

00:31:31.000 You bet.

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00:32:37.000 There's a lot happening on these university campuses right now.

00:32:42.000 Karine Jean-Pierre was asked directly about this.

00:32:45.000 Let's play cut 37.

00:32:47.000 We hear you guys, though, talk about extremists all the time.

00:32:50.000 It is usually about MAGA extremists.

00:32:52.000 So what about these protesters who are making Jewish students feel unsafe on college campuses?

00:32:58.000 Are they extremists?

00:32:59.000 I've been very, very clear.

00:33:01.000 We are calling out any form of hate, any form of hate.

00:33:06.000 It is not acceptable.

00:33:08.000 It should not be acceptable here.

00:33:10.000 And we are going to continue to call that out.

00:33:13.000 And let me be very clear.

00:33:14.000 This is a president that has continued to have that fight in his office, in this administration, you know, when he repealed Trump's Muslim ban on his very first day in office.

00:33:26.000 You know who wants the Muslim ban back? 1.00

00:33:28.000 Jews.

00:33:29.000 They should.

00:33:31.000 You know who's quietly saying, you know, Trump was right.

00:33:34.000 Trump was right. 0.50

00:33:35.000 It is no joke outside of the media matters, whatever stuff.

00:33:39.000 Wealthy liberal Jews are legitimately waking up. 1.00

00:33:43.000 This is not some sort of one-off thing.

00:33:48.000 And I do want to make sure this is very clear.

00:33:52.000 Some of the passion and the emotion, I don't take some of these attacks seriously.

00:33:55.000 I don't.

00:33:55.000 And let me tell you why.

00:33:57.000 The slaughter of the Jews in Israel was so horrific.

00:34:03.000 It was so unprecedented that people have been over-emotional.

00:34:07.000 And I get it.

00:34:08.000 You should be emotional.

00:34:09.000 So I don't take the attacks personally.

00:34:12.000 If 1,400, if 50,000 Americans were slaughtered in that capacity, I would probably be over-emotional too.

00:34:20.000 I'll be very honest. 0.96

00:34:22.000 Now, some of these articles and stuff they're writing about us and Candace Owens and myself, Charlie, you hate Jews. 0.89

00:34:28.000 Just calm down, guys.

00:34:29.000 But I do want to sympathize that it's fever pitch.

00:34:34.000 I get it.

00:34:36.000 But make sure you isolate your targets correctly.

00:34:39.000 And I think that's actually beginning to happen.

00:34:43.000 Hamas's leader has now come out and said they will do it again.

00:34:48.000 If there is one positive takeaway of all of this, it's that maybe, maybe, Jewish donors and or anybody in high society realizes you should not give your money to subsidize things that hate you.

00:35:04.000 Do not underwrite your own demise.

00:35:06.000 Hamas is utterly intolerable.

00:35:09.000 They've revealed that they are enemies of humanity and people who support them discredit themselves utterly.

00:35:16.000 But I also want to make sure you understand, and this is not a popular thing to say, based on a public poll, a majority of American Muslims, a majority of American Muslims, 57% said that Hamas was justified in targeting Jewish babies, women, children, and rock concert.

00:35:40.000 57% of your quote-unquote fellow American Muslims support that.

00:35:45.000 Now, I want to be even more clear.

00:35:47.000 Of course, there are some amazing American and decent Muslims.

00:35:52.000 We're going to have one on this program, Dr. Zudi Jasser, who's an honorable, good person, where he is actually arguing and advocating for a reformation in Islam.

00:36:03.000 And I'm cheering for him.

00:36:05.000 I want Zudi Jasser to be successful in a reformation of Islam. 0.83

00:36:11.000 I think that is a righteous cause because there are some really great people that are Muslims in this country.

00:36:19.000 But we also should not bury the lead.

00:36:22.000 57% based on a signal poll said that Hamas was, quote, justified in their action against Israel.

00:36:32.000 That's worth thinking about.

00:36:34.000 Why did we let these people into our country? 1.00

00:36:37.000 Where does that come from?

00:36:38.000 Are they assimilating, really?

00:36:39.000 If 57%, now let's say the signal poll is wrong.

00:36:42.000 Let's say that it's 40%.

00:36:44.000 That's still shocking.

00:36:45.000 Let's say it's 30%.

00:36:46.000 That's still shocking.

00:36:49.000 That is effectively saying beheadings and a Jewish 9-11.

00:36:54.000 We're cool with that.

00:36:55.000 Give us our American passport.

00:36:57.000 No, you should be deported back to the country you came from. 1.00

00:37:02.000 I support Israel and I get a lot of flack for supporting Israel.

00:37:06.000 It's about values.

00:37:08.000 Israel is fighting a defensive war.

00:37:10.000 Hamas says it will attack them again. 0.97

00:37:13.000 They can't coexist with this cancer.

00:37:16.000 An unpopular opinion is this.

00:37:18.000 Sometimes you have to go to war to remove a tumor.

00:37:21.000 Hamas is that tumor. 0.78

00:37:24.000 And I pray Israel is successful.

00:37:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:30.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 01, 2023

The Plot to Take Trump Off the Ballot with Mike Davis and Rep. Jim Jordan

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