00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today at the Charlie Kirk Show, we have Jim Jordan join the program to talk about the latest fights in Congress.
00:00:07.000We also have Mike Davis from Article 3 Project to talk about Donald Trump potentially not being on the ballot in Colorado and other states.
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00:02:00.000What they want is an oligarchy, and they want to choose for you.
00:02:04.000Joining us now is Mike Davis, who has been doing yeoman's work and heroes' work, a story that Steve Bannon deserves a lot of credit for bringing to the forefront.
00:02:13.000But honestly, this has not been covered in the mainstream media nearly enough.
00:02:17.000Mike Davis, thank you for taking the time.
00:02:19.000Tell us what is going on in Colorado for somebody that has no understanding that might be in the shadows of, you know, not really queued in.
00:02:29.000So, yeah, the Democrats impeached Trump for nonsense and they indicted him four times for non-crimes.
00:02:37.000And that made Trump a lot more popular than the Democrats expected.
00:02:41.000Now it's backfired on them and he is on a glide path to beating Biden on November 5th, 2024.
00:02:47.000So now what they're trying to do is throw a legal Hail Mary.
00:02:51.000They're trying to dust off the 14th Amendment passed enacted after the Civil War.
00:02:57.000Section 3 of the 14th Amendment disqualifies from holding office in the United States those who engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, right?
00:03:10.000And so the Democrats think that this post-Civil War provision, they're going to apply that to President Trump for January 6th, and they're just going to have their Democrats, judges, and Democrat prosecutors and Democrats lawyers just simply remove President Trump from the ballot based upon this bogus legal theory.
00:03:33.000They're going to start in a blue state like Colorado like they're doing this week, where they have this biased judge, this biased Democrat judge who donated to a group that sought to throw out of office Republicans who supported President Trump on January 6th.
00:03:52.000She donated to this group, and then somehow she's sitting on this trial this week to try to throw President Trump off the ballot for January 6th.
00:04:01.000President Trump's lawyers filed a motion to recuse her.
00:04:12.000Whether she thinks she can be fair is not the legal standard.
00:04:15.000It's whether the public thinks she can be fair.
00:04:17.000And I don't know how any reasonable person thinks a Democrat judge can be fair if she donated to an anti-Trump January 6th political action committee, and now she's sitting on his trial.
00:04:28.000They're going to try to get him, they're going to have this judge disqualify him from the Colorado ballot.
00:04:33.000It's going to go to the Colorado Supreme Court on an expedited basis.
00:04:37.000And I presume that these left-wing judges on the Colorado Supreme Court will keep him off the ballot.
00:06:19.000Yeah, under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, they're saying that because January 6th was an insurrection and Trump instigated that, that he should be disqualified under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
00:06:47.000And they played around with this with congressional, they even tried with Madison Cawthorne with some point, right?
00:06:53.000So talk, Mike, how this has not been some one-off thing.
00:06:57.000This has been workshopped both in the courts, but also with the Overton window, where in New Hampshire, for example, there were a series of meetings.
00:07:09.000We got a lot of credit for it in the media, where Lawrence Tribe had this Atlantic piece, and there were, you know, elections are bad for democracy.
00:07:31.000It's called lawfaremedia.org that shows their lawfare.
00:07:35.000It shows where these Section 3 litigations are happening all over the country.
00:07:40.000And it's like in 20 different states around our country where they bring these lawsuits.
00:07:46.000They were unsuccessful in New Hampshire and Florida.
00:07:50.000They had their cases dismissed by the plaintiffs in Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Maine.
00:07:57.000But there are very active cases all over the country.
00:08:00.000And this is the first case in Colorado, in Denver, that's actually going to trial, right?
00:08:06.000And they're trying to set this precedent with this biased Democrat judge in Colorado that they can disqualify him under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
00:08:16.000And then they're going to use this precedent.
00:08:21.000They're going to use it, try to use it in Michigan, for example.
00:08:24.000And the problem with their legal argument is this, that the country ratified the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments after the Civil War, the post-Civil War amendments to outlaw slavery, to provide due process and equal protection to the freed slaves and to provide voting rights to the freed male slaves.
00:08:44.000And as part of that 14th Amendment, Section 3 was to disqualify because you saw Confederate sympathizers who engaged in insurrection or rebellion during the Civil War were winning elected office.
00:08:55.000They were being appointed as judges in state and federal offices.
00:08:59.000And so they enacted Section 3 so they can get rid of these Confederates insurrectionists because they were undermining the Civil War effort, the post-Civil War Reconstruction in the Union.
00:09:09.000And in order, there's a case from 1869 that's very clear.
00:09:14.000Chief Justice Samuel Chase wrote this opinion that in order to disqualify under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment for insurrection or rebellion, Congress has to pass a federal criminal statute, which Congress did in 1870.
00:09:27.000And you have to have a U.S. attorney bring federal charges in federal court with a federal judge and a federal jury with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, a unanimous jury verdict.
00:09:38.000The judge has to convict, and it has to be upheld on appeal under this specific federal criminal statute that deals with insurrection or rebellion.
00:09:47.000They have not done that with Trump because that evidence does not exist, despite tens of millions of dollars that the January 6th Committee spent looking for this evidence, despite tens of millions of dollars that the Biden Justice Department, including Jack Smith, has spent looking for this evidence.
00:10:02.000They know that they do not have evidence of insurrection or rebellion, but they fear that President Trump is going to beat Biden like a drum on November 5th.
00:10:18.000Just ever understands that six random voters filed this lawsuit, and then any random judge can now rule.
00:10:25.000And that's why this has to go to SCOTUS to settle this.
00:10:28.000The Trump derangement is so high that the sooner SCOTUS can rule on this, hopefully the sooner that we can kind of just calm all these down.
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00:14:42.000They're trying to bankrupt his family business for the non-fraud of a businessman paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks in full on time with interest as agreed.
00:14:53.000And you see his poll numbers going up.
00:14:56.000And so now they're trying to gag him these unconstitutional, illegal gags on a criminal defendant, which is just absolutely un-American.
00:15:06.000They're going to try to throw him in jail for speaking out against about the judge, the prosecutor, the court staff, the witnesses, the process, which he's absolutely allowed to do under the First Amendment that even the ACLU was forced to come out and even argue.
00:15:22.000And now they want to just take him off the ballot.
00:15:26.000Nothing screams democracy like trying to bankrupt, throw in prison for 700 years, and just take off the ballot your political opponent.
00:15:39.000These are republic-ending tactics by the Democrats.
00:15:42.000Like this is not our parents' or grandparents' Democrat Party.
00:15:45.000These aren't liberals who love America.
00:16:26.000The lawfare continues on every possible way.
00:16:30.000So let me ask you, Mike, just going back to the Colorado case, do you feel confident if the Supreme Court hears it that Donald Trump will be allowed on the ballot?
00:16:38.000Because if this happens in Colorado, this will spread like wildfire to almost every swing state.
00:16:44.000They will try to win the 2024 election before a vote is even cast.
00:16:50.000Well, we're going to see the end of our republic as we know it if you can just take the leading presidential candidates off the ballot based upon a bogus, illegal, unconstitutional legal theory.
00:17:03.000So if the Supreme Court wants to keep our country together, they're going to have to decide to take this case and they're going to have to follow the Constitution.
00:17:12.000And the Constitution has been very clear.
00:17:16.000There's a case from 1869 from Chief Justice Samuel Chase that's very clear that if you want to take Trump off the ballot, if you want to disqualify him, you have to do it through a federal criminal statute and not some goofball biased Democrat judge in Denver, Colorado, or some partisan Secretary of State in Michigan or some other state.
00:17:38.000You have to actually follow the Constitution and follow the law, right?
00:17:42.000And so let's just hope that these Supreme Court justices with their lifetime tenure and their pay protection, let's hope that they find the courage to do their damn job.
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00:19:32.000He's been a member of our committee, both of the full judiciary committee, the weaponization select committee.
00:19:38.000He chaired the subcommittee on the Constitution.
00:19:40.000I mean, he's argued cases in front of the Supreme Court, a constitutional scholar, just a great guy, a great friend.
00:19:45.000And I think he's going to do an outstanding job.
00:19:48.000And Charlie already seen it when he said he wanted to separate out the support for Israel and have a pay for that, you know, going after the IRS, which is, I think, a great place to get the revenue to help our dearest and closest ally, the state of Israel.
00:20:03.000I think he's already shown what kind of leader he is.
00:20:05.000So, yeah, Mike's going to do a great job.
00:20:08.000So, let's talk about the looming continuing resolution fight.
00:20:11.000I know that there was obviously a lot of time spent on the speakers race, and we want to do these 12 different appropriation bills.
00:20:18.000Walk us through how the Christmas break, the looming Christmas break, potentially kicking this January 15th.
00:20:24.000How do you think things are going to play out in the next couple of weeks?
00:20:26.000Well, what we're trying to avoid, what Speaker Johnson's trying to avoid, I think all of us are, is this big, ugly package that gets thrown in our lap on Christmas Eve.
00:20:34.000That's been the norm for like the last 15 years.
00:20:37.000So, we want to do the individual bills where we can focus on those.
00:20:40.000You can get a real focus on the policy riders, some of the language we want.
00:20:43.000Like, we got some good language in the bills coming out of committee on the like in the Department of Homeland Security, where we say, you know, no money can be used to set up a disinformation governance board.
00:20:52.000No money can be used to censor the speech of American citizens.
00:20:54.000You know, that kind of good policy language we want in there.
00:20:57.000You get a better chance to get that language, keep it in the bill if you're focusing on the individual bill as we're supposed to do.
00:21:08.000But I know Speaker Johnson has said, no way are we, does he want to take, do we want to take an omnibus bill, like I said, which typically winds up on our desk on Christmas Eve?
00:21:17.000Yeah, and that the issue, of course, is what the most graft, as you know, Congressman, you've been around for a while, and the worst deals are cut because of external Christmas pressure.
00:21:28.000So, it wouldn't, I know, Speaker Johnson, I guess it would be better to kick it to January than to have a bad deal before Christmas.
00:21:36.000But is there any appetite to make the old bulls in the Senate work through Christmas and not shut down the government for those couple days?
00:21:46.000I mean, I think you're hitting the key is individual bills because when it gets all thrown together, you don't get the scrutiny that you get for the earmarks that are the member-directed spending.
00:21:57.000You don't get the scrutiny on that kind of stuff that you do.
00:21:59.000If it's an individual bill and you're focused on that bill and you got a conference committee, you're so we want to get to that.
00:22:04.000I'm not sure how long that's going to take us because we've done most of our bills over here.
00:22:08.000We've done 70% of the funding we've already passed for the government.
00:22:12.000The Senate hasn't done much of anything.
00:22:17.000But, whatever we can do to get us to individually focus on those separate bills, I think is the right way to go.
00:22:24.000How that shakes out, if it's January 15th, if it's December 15th, I mean, I don't think December 15th works because that's just setting us up for this Christmas Eve scenario like we've had every other year.
00:22:34.000It's got to be, I think, something a little longer.
00:22:36.000But we'll leave that up to the conference and Speaker Johnson.
00:22:38.000But I know he's committed to the same goal you and I want.
00:22:41.000So, the House has it passed that Ukraine bill with the IRS cuts yet, or was that going to be passed?
00:22:53.000I just actually talked with Speaker Johnson.
00:22:55.000It looks like it'll be on Friday because we're going to have a few members, I think, not here tomorrow because of President Trump's doing an event.
00:23:06.000And then we pass that and we'll send it to the Senate.
00:23:08.000Then, we need our Senate Republicans to say, hey, we want to support the new speaker.
00:23:13.000We want to support the Republican leader on Capitol Hill, Speaker Johnson.
00:23:17.000We want to support that and not try to tie it all together like the White House does with Ukraine and other things and some pretend border.
00:23:24.000We want real border security and any type of bill that comes later.
00:23:27.000But we want to focus right now just on helping our dearest and closest ally, the state of Israel.
00:23:32.000So, Mitch McConnell says it's kind of somewhat dead on arrival.
00:23:57.000This is if the House passes this, this is the House Republican position.
00:24:00.000Why wouldn't Senate Republicans support this?
00:24:03.000Encourage Chuck Schumer to bring it up that way and get the support to our friend, the state of Israel, just as soon as we possibly can and not tie it to something that's much more controversial, which is the Ukraine and some pretend border solution that may, you know, that that's being talked about.
00:24:21.000We want some of the language from our HR2 bill that we passed several months ago that was real border security enforcement and real immigration enforcement.
00:24:32.000Yeah, so let's talk the border is important, but it's a little deceiving, that just money for the border, because McConnell's floating out maybe a couple billion here, but not expedited catch and release, right?
00:24:46.000That is essentially facilitating more entry into the country.
00:24:50.000And McConnell and Biden are back channeling right now to try to get Israel-Ukraine and a little bit of the, you know, throwing quote-unquote crumbs to the border issue.
00:25:01.000What specifically legislatively would actually help?
00:25:04.000Well, first of all, Charlie, you're 100% right.
00:25:06.000More money just so you can process faster the unbelievable number of migrants that have come into the country is not the answer.
00:25:14.000The answer is to build the wall, to have remain in Mexico policy, to not allow catch and release, and to reform our asylum laws.
00:25:22.000Those are the elements we had in the bill we passed several months ago through the House.
00:25:26.000As I said, the strongest immigration enforcement legislation ever.
00:25:29.000Those are the elements we need in this legislation.
00:25:31.000You could almost get it down to, if you really had to get it down to one sentence, no money can be used to process or allow to enter into the country any new migrants.
00:25:45.000But there's things you want to do on asylum as well that I think would be very helpful.
00:25:49.000And of course, you want to build the wall.
00:25:51.000You want to continue to build the wall.
00:25:52.000So that's what has to happen, I think, for it to be real immigration enforcement.
00:25:57.000There have been 2 million some migrants who've come in since Joe Biden's been president that we know about, not counting all the godaways, not everything else, but that we know about.
00:26:26.000And just throwing money at the problem is not going to do it.
00:26:28.000You have to change the law and then enforce it.
00:26:30.0006,000 out of 2 million that we know of.
00:26:35.000So just one, I said this yesterday to Chip Roy in my own kind of editorial here, is that from a messaging standpoint, Congressman, every day you should be mentioning Sherrod Brown, Joe Manchin, John Tester, Kirsten Sinema.
00:26:48.000Senate Republicans, yes, but the ones that are really getting nervous.
00:26:51.000As you know, Sherrod Brown, he's well liked in Ohio, but with Donald Trump on the top of the ballot in 24, Sherrod Brown is going to be really in a tough spot.
00:27:01.000Let's put pressure on those Senate Democrats.
00:27:08.000Win Ohio, win Montana, win West Virginia, win Arizona.
00:27:11.000We win those four, keep the House, put President Trump back in the White House.
00:27:14.000Now we can get about doing the thing that the American people care about, putting America first, making sure we're projecting strength around the world from the White House like we did under President Trump and like we're not doing under President Biden.
00:27:24.000All those things happen, but you're right.
00:27:26.000Winning those four Senate seats is really, really important.
00:27:30.000So I don't want to fear monger here, Congressman, but there's more and more chatter and question of who's actually in the interior of our country.
00:27:36.000What can you share with our audience based on people from the Middle East, potentially Hamas, other sleeper cells that have entered the country?
00:27:43.0008 million people have illegally entered that we know of under Joe Biden.
00:27:47.000We don't know who these people are, their backgrounds over 100 different countries.
00:27:50.000Do you think that there's a chance that there might be unidentified sleeper cells in this country?
00:27:56.000Not trying to fear monger, just trying to talk the facts of people that entered this country illegally.
00:28:01.000But when you have that volume of people come into the country, not to mention all the people we don't know about who are the so-called gotaways, when that happens and you have all these different countries and you know that the ones that we have encountered who are on the terrorist watch list, that number is higher than it's ever been.
00:28:18.000It certainly makes you wonder that, you know, could that be the case?
00:28:24.000But, you know, it's this, again, this is just, I guess, a result of when you have an intentional policy put into place on day one by the Biden administration when they said no more wall, no more remain in Mexico, and no more hold, no more detained.
00:29:26.000There's all this stuff that Mr. Comer has uncovered in the oversight committee.
00:29:30.000And then what we're trying to do on the judiciary committee is we're looking at the investigation, how that was handled into Hunter Biden.
00:29:35.000By the way, Charlie, we had an amazing deposition a week and a half ago from Scott Brady, the U.S. attorney in the Western District of Pennsylvania, who was assigned by Attorney General Barr back on January 3rd, 2020 to be the intake and be the filter for all information related to Ukraine and Hunter Biden.
00:29:52.000Now, he gets his job on January 3rd, but in the course of our deposition, he told us that he didn't learn about the confidential human source who was that 1023 form.
00:30:01.000He didn't learn about that until six months into his work.
00:30:20.000He's supposed to be the guy looking at all this information.
00:30:22.000And the FBI kept that information from him, even though they had the laptop prior to him ever being assigned that job by the United States Attorney General.
00:30:33.000You got what Jason Smith has with the whistleblowers.
00:30:35.000You got what Mr. Comer is doing relative to the bank records and the whole influence peddling scheme, the shell companies, everything else.
00:30:42.000We're going to compile all that information and see if it warrants moving to actual articles of impeachment at some point.
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00:33:14.000This is a president that has continued to have that fight in his office, in this administration, you know, when he repealed Trump's Muslim ban on his very first day in office.
00:33:26.000You know who wants the Muslim ban back?
00:34:36.000But make sure you isolate your targets correctly.
00:34:39.000And I think that's actually beginning to happen.
00:34:43.000Hamas's leader has now come out and said they will do it again.
00:34:48.000If there is one positive takeaway of all of this, it's that maybe, maybe, Jewish donors and or anybody in high society realizes you should not give your money to subsidize things that hate you.
00:35:09.000They've revealed that they are enemies of humanity and people who support them discredit themselves utterly.
00:35:16.000But I also want to make sure you understand, and this is not a popular thing to say, based on a public poll, a majority of American Muslims, a majority of American Muslims, 57% said that Hamas was justified in targeting Jewish babies, women, children, and rock concert.
00:35:40.00057% of your quote-unquote fellow American Muslims support that.
00:35:47.000Of course, there are some amazing American and decent Muslims.
00:35:52.000We're going to have one on this program, Dr. Zudi Jasser, who's an honorable, good person, where he is actually arguing and advocating for a reformation in Islam.