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00:01:04.000Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:07.000I've been really looking forward to this conversation.
00:01:09.000With us today is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has been speaking out against a lot of the topics and issues that you guys care about here on the Charlie Kirk Show, including vaccines and Dr. Fauci.
00:01:23.000So, first, Robert, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:25.000You have a new book out on Tony Fauci.
00:01:27.000What is it called and how can people get it if they want to reference it throughout this conversation?
00:01:31.000It's called The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the War on Public Health and Democracy.
00:02:17.000He gives away every year 13 times what Bill Gates gives away.
00:02:23.000It gives him control of virtually all the virologists in the world.
00:02:27.000And that's why every virologist knew that the coronavirus was lab generated.
00:02:33.000They've known that it's absolutely obvious from four hours.
00:02:37.000Chris and Anderson, who sent Tony Fauci that I've noticed on the evening of January 5th, they all knew it.
00:02:46.000And the question is: why do they keep their mouths shut?
00:02:49.000The reason they keep their mouths shut is because he controls their budget between him, Wellcome Trust, which is the UK version of the Gates Foundation.
00:03:00.000Bill Gates, they control 90% of the money that's going out to the virology community every year.
00:03:06.000And they have 10,000 of these virologists on their payroll.
00:03:10.000And if you are a working virologist, you cannot afford to criticize Anthony Fauci.
00:03:16.000All the people that you see on CNN every night, the Peter Hotels and all of it, and Ed Schaffner, and all of these people who go on and repeat the orthodoxy, harrow at the orthodoxies about mass about vaccines, about the spread of coronavirus, et cetera.
00:03:39.000They're all people who are taking money from Tony Fauci.
00:03:45.000The people who sit on the committee that approve the new vaccines on the Verbac Committee at FBA, on the ACIP committee at CDC, they work for Tony Fauci.
00:03:56.000Tony Fauci got a call from Bill Gates in the year 2000.
00:04:02.000Gates brought him out, summons them out to his $147 million mansion on the banks of Lake Washington, Seattle, sat him down in his library and said, let's form a partnership, essentially to vaccinate the whole world and to give immunity from liability to the vaccine companies and to make all of Gates' partners rich.
00:04:26.000Gates owns huge shares in virtually all the big pharmaceutical companies.
00:04:31.000And his philanthropy is what he calls philanthropism.
00:04:38.000It is a money-making and power-generating philanthropy.
00:04:43.000It has nothing to do with public health.
00:04:45.000The public health outcomes have dropped dramatically.
00:04:49.000The more, there's many, many studies that show that the more money a nation takes, an African country, an Asian country takes from Bill Gates for either its agricultural products, agricultural systems, or for its public health systems, the worse public health becomes, a higher infant mortality rates.
00:05:08.000There is absolutely an inverse correlation between the amount of money that these people put into public health and the actual health outcomes.
00:05:20.000If you look at Tony Fauci, I'm Charlie.
00:05:25.000He has his entire life has been failing upward.
00:05:29.000He's in charge of protecting Americans against infectious diseases, against allergic diseases, against autoimmune diseases.
00:05:38.000When he came into office in 1968, the rate of chronic disease in American children was 6%.
00:05:47.000By 1986, when he was running that agency, it risen to 11.8%.
00:07:26.000But Amazon, if you can today, you want to do something to advance this movement.
00:07:32.000Go on Amazon, order a copy of the book.
00:07:35.000This is going to really piss off the New York Times and everybody else who does not want to acknowledge that there's any argument out there.
00:07:43.000And, you know, I've been researching this book for over a year.
00:07:49.000I know everything about his really creepy relationship with Bill Gates.
00:07:54.000And you know, all the questions that my liberal brethren ask: why would you know Bill Gates isn't a guy who just gives all his money?
00:08:02.000He's incredibly generous to all the poor people in the world.
00:08:05.000Why are you saying, you must be crazy to say that he's a bad guy?
00:08:10.000Anthony Fauci's given 50 years protecting public health.
00:08:17.000How can you say that he has bad motivations?
00:08:19.000And this book explains blow by blow how these two gentlemen arrived at where they are and the things that you know that brought them there.
00:08:29.000Looking at NIH, there have been many, many honest scientists.
00:08:37.000And if you look who have confronted pharma, Ernice Eddy, who's probably one of the most famous scientists in the history of NIH, she found a monkey virus, a very parcinogenic monkey virus and all the polio vaccines called simian virus 40.
00:08:55.000Her career was immediately destroyed by her boss at NIH.
00:08:59.000The locks were changed on her laboratory.
00:09:01.000She was locked in a basement with no telephone and was told not to talk to anybody.
00:09:08.000John Anthony Morris, who found all the problems with the flu vaccine, in 40 years he ran the flu program at NIH and driven out of the agency because he said the flu vaccine, the fake pandemic that they dreamed of in 76, he said it's a fake.
00:09:26.000Only one person died in a worldwide pandemic and they did it to sell flu vaccines.
00:09:39.000Judy Mickovitz, the same thing who confronted Tony Fauci about another mouse virus that was in some of the other vaccines, the MMR and others that are causing severe health problems.
00:10:18.000And today he's the most powerful health regulator in history.
00:10:22.000He literally shut down the global economy.
00:10:25.000Between him and Bill Gates, they grove this shutdown by representing themselves as people who are supposedly interested in our public health.
00:10:35.000But if you really look at what's happening behind the scenes, they are people who are completely immersed in the vaccine industry, who are making vaccines, patented them.
00:10:47.000The Moderna vaccine, which he, you know, his agency, I owns 50% of the vaccine patent.
00:10:56.000So they're going to, they're rolling in dough, the money that we're now, you know, all these college students that you're defending who are getting Moderna vaccine, essentially being coerced to undergo an unwanted medical intervention with an experimental technology that has been shoddily tested.
00:11:18.000That, and here's the thing about that vaccine, Charlie.
00:11:21.000When I say people say, why wouldn't you take the vaccine?
00:11:24.000I would say, well, the company can't get an insurance policy.
00:11:30.000The insurance industry has said this vaccine is too risky to insure.
00:11:37.000And they're the ultimate arbiter of risk.
00:11:40.000Anybody who tells me that the vaccine is safe, I can ask a vaccination.
00:11:46.000Don't, you know, all I want to, I'm not any vaccine.
00:11:50.000I'm against any product that can't get an insurance policy.
00:11:54.000The insurance industry is the ultimate arbiter of risk.
00:11:57.000This isn't a bunch of, you know, crazy people.
00:12:00.000These are people from Wall Street with skinny ties and black suits who are saying who aren't making money by assessing risk.
00:12:09.000And they're saying this vaccine is too risky to insure.
00:12:13.000So we need the federal government to make us all self-insured.
00:12:18.000So if you get hurt by that vaccine, it's tough luck for you.
00:12:39.000So I want to take a step back and go through the history of vaccines and kind of how you got interested in this and kind of go through the work that you do and introduce yourself to our audience.
00:12:53.000And so can you talk about why you have decided to make this a lifelong crusade for you and really what has happened with this kind of vaccine industry?
00:13:03.000Because if you dare talk about this topic at all, I have never come across a topic where you get more hatred, more silencing, and more censorship.
00:13:13.000So just talk a little bit about how you got into this.
00:13:15.000And then also, why is it that we can't have a discussion around vaccines in America?
00:13:48.000You know, when you're saying this is true because somebody told me it was true, an authority that I believe told me it was true, that is not science.
00:14:11.000And they cannot afford to have this debate because there are too many difficult questions that simply cannot be answered when you're coercing an entire nation to get an experimental medical intervention that is shown to be dangerous.
00:16:40.000I've brought over 500 successful lawsuits.
00:16:44.000Almost all of them involve scientific controversies.
00:16:47.000And so, you know, if I didn't know how to read science critically, I would be very bad at my job.
00:16:54.000And I started reading the abstracts from these studies, and I was just blown away because there was such a huge delta between what the government agencies and the pharmaceutical industry was telling us about vaccine safety and what the actual science was saying.
00:17:12.000And so I started calling out regulators who I knew, you know, I knew Tony Fauci.
00:17:52.000And I began doing litigation and writing, et cetera.
00:17:55.000But I'll tell you just very briefly what happened in the vaccine industry.
00:17:59.000When I was a kid, I got three vaccines.
00:18:01.000Today's children, my kids' generation are mandated before they're 18, if they want to go to school, to take 72 doses of about 16 different vaccines.
00:18:18.000Some of them, like hepatitis B, you'll get four or five vaccines.
00:18:29.000They're for diseases that clearly aren't even casually contagious.
00:18:34.000And they're clearly, and what happened is in 1970, they recommended a new vaccine called the diphtheria tetanus and protossis vaccine.
00:18:45.000And that vaccine was killing or causing severe brain injury to one in every 300 kids.
00:18:52.000CDC said it was one in a million, but NIH commissioned UCLA to do a study and after on how many kids were actually getting severely injured.
00:19:05.000And the study came back very, very quickly, and it was one in 300.
00:19:10.000And they were like, holy cow, what have we done?
00:19:14.000And at that time, plaintiff's attorneys were suing the pharmaceutical company Wyas, you know, Glaxo, Sanofi, Pfizer, and the, and Merck.
00:19:28.000And the company were losing a ton of money.
00:19:33.000So Wyatt said at that point it was losing $20 in downstream liability for every dollar that it made in profits.
00:19:41.000And it went to the Reagan administration and to the Democratic Congress and said, We're going to stop making vaccines altogether unless you give us immunity from liability.
00:19:54.000Congress passed the Vaccine Act, it gave them immunity from liability.
00:19:57.000And what that means today is that if you get injured by a childhood vaccine, and no matter how negligent the company was, no matter how reckless they were, no matter how grievous your injury, no matter how toxic the ingredient, you cannot sue that company.
00:20:14.000There are no class actions, there's no multi-district litigation, there's no discovery.
00:20:20.000And remember, Charlie, these companies are all serial criminals.
00:20:28.000The four companies that make all of our vaccines in this country collectively have paid $35 billion in the last 10 years for false buying signs, for defrauding regulators, for lying, cheating, stealing, blackmailing, bribing doctors.
00:21:11.000And not only are they immune from liability, but vaccines are the only medical product that never has to be safety tested.
00:21:21.000The reason for that is an artifact of CDC's legacy of the Public Health Service, which was a quasi-military agency.
00:21:34.000The vaccine program was conceived as a national security defense against biological attacks in our country.
00:21:40.000And the regulators wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax or some other biological agent, we could quickly formulate a new vaccine and administer it to 200 million American civilians with no regulatory impediments.
00:21:54.000They said, if we call it a medicine, you have to do five years randomized placebo testing.
00:22:02.000And we're not going to be able to do that.
00:22:07.000And then we will make biologics immune from exempt from any kind of safety testing.
00:22:14.000Oh, there's not a single vaccine that is now given to our children that has ever been safely tested against a placebo in pre-licensing studies.
00:22:25.000They're all just waved through and greenlighted without safety testing.
00:22:30.000And so nobody knows what the risk profile is these products.
00:22:35.000But what we saw is there was a gold rush because now you don't have to do the safety testing.
00:22:42.000Those are the two biggest costs for medical products.
00:22:45.000And the third cost is marketing and advertising.
00:22:48.000You don't have to do that because the federal government is mandating that product for 78 million American children.
00:22:56.000So the plus Tony Fauci and his agency usually pay for the entire development for the vaccine and they even buy the factory for the company.
00:23:13.000And it's like printing money for these companies.
00:23:17.000And so there was a gold rush and they went from the three vaccines I had to the 72 vaccines that my kids had beginning in 1989.
00:23:27.000And in 1989, we saw an explosion in chronic disease in our country.
00:23:36.000So there's three categories of chronic disease that we saw besides obesity, which is linked to vaccines, by the way, very, very strongly in many studies.
00:23:50.000So if you were born, you're a young guy, the people who listen to this who are older will recognize that we didn't know any of these diseases when we were kids.
00:25:20.000Well, that's the year all these new vaccines started piling on it.
00:25:24.000And so there are about 175 diseases that suddenly became epidemic beginning around 1989.
00:25:33.000And all of those diseases, those chronic diseases, all of those diseases are listed as side effects on the 72 vaccines that are mandated for our children.
00:25:50.000Those companies, when I was a kid, were making $187 million those four companies, $187 million a year on vaccines.
00:26:02.000But their real money is not coming from the vaccine.
00:26:07.000It's coming from selling the treatments, the remedies, the chronic diseases that are listed on their own manufacturers' inserts as side effects from the vaccine.
00:26:20.000The albuterol inhalers and the $600 EpiPens that I get from my kids, the Adderall, the Ritalin, the Concerta, the anti-seizure medication, the diabetes medication, the arthritis medications, all of these, those are, if you look at the top blockbuster drugs, are those four companies, and I'll remind you again, Sanofi, Pfizer, which used to be called Wyatt, Merck, and Glaxo Spentham.
00:26:51.000They make all 72 of the vaccine given to our children.
00:26:55.000Virtually all of their top 10 blockbuster drugs are drugs that are marketed to treat injuries that are listed on their vaccine inserts as side effects of their products.
00:27:11.000But this is like the perfect industry.
00:27:15.000It's an industry where they are creating disease.
00:27:18.000Listen, you get me, I got measles when I was a kid.
00:28:12.000It was a week home from the school where we, you know, we watched Leave It to Fever and the Andy Griffin show, and we played games, hag all day.
00:28:25.000So, and what are the treatments for measles?
00:28:28.000Vitamin A, which the WHO says eliminated, virtually eliminates any chance of death from measles.
00:28:36.000And chicken soup, well, neither of them can be patented.
00:28:41.000What if you're giving one out of every 300 of those kids seizures?
00:28:47.000And what if of every thousand of those now have permanent lifetime epilepsy?
00:28:54.000Now you've created permanent clients who are dependent on your drugs for the rest of their lives.
00:29:00.000All of these childhood diseases, measles, months, chicken pox, essentially rashes that we got as a kid, all of them are self-limiting, naturally self-limiting, and all of them are treatable.
00:29:16.000None of the chronic diseases are curable, none of them.
00:29:20.000And they, you know, they all require treatment for life.
00:29:23.000So it's like a cash cow for these companies.
00:29:26.000And, you know, you wonder why they're so aggressive and why they've made it into a religion.
00:29:33.000This is why, because it is the most profitable religion in history.
00:29:39.000So, so, Robert, there's a lot there, and people are just starting to entertain a conversation on this topic.
00:29:48.000Even in the last 18 months, I've seen people, including myself, I never really cared that much about this topic, to be perfectly honest.
00:29:54.000But now I've really started to care about it, especially when people say I'm not allowed to talk about it.
00:29:59.000So, I want to ask a couple of things, and this is a very simple question, but you can go anyway.
00:30:05.000If you were having a child today, let's say you have a grandchild, would you vaccinate them at all?
00:30:15.000Well, I wouldn't give any child experimental technology.
00:30:19.000So, experimental medical interventions.
00:30:22.000So, I would say, you know, at this point, until you show me, show me a test, show me a study that shows a vaccinated kid is healthier than unvaccinated kid, and I will give every vaccine to my children.
00:30:36.000But unfortunately, if you go to our website, they will not allow that study to be done.
00:30:42.000You know, and that, and if you go to our website, there are independent studies that have been done.
00:30:49.000We have 65 of them on our website, and we will post any study on our website on Children's Health Defense website.
00:30:57.000If you go and look on our website, vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, we have put everyone that we could find on there, and we have very easy to read graphs.
00:31:10.000So, you can actually scan all those studies in under five minutes.
00:31:15.000You can look at them and you can see, you know, the food allergy, allergic linitis, vaccinated kids have 30 times the allergic linitis, unvaccinated kids.
00:31:28.000And so until vaccinated kids have shorter lives, they're more likely to die.
00:31:38.000The DTP vaccine that I talked about earlier, which was pulled in the United States and Europe.
00:31:46.000But Bill Gates and WHO give it to every child in Africa every year.
00:31:51.000They give about 161 billion children receive that vaccine every year that white people don't take.
00:31:57.000Okay, but they're giving it to these kids in Asia and Africa.
00:32:03.000And it is the most popular vaccine in the world, thanks to Bill Gates.
00:32:07.000It is used as the flagship vaccine to determine compliance with by various governments with their back with the WHO vaccine program.
00:32:20.000So in order to get their money for their HIV programs, their health ministries, they have to demonstrate that 80 or 90% of their kids have been vaccinated with this very, very dangerous vaccine.
00:32:33.000So Bill Gates asked the Danish government to support the program to give the DTP in 2016.
00:32:40.000And the Danish government said, well, you know what?
00:32:43.000Let's actually see what the outcome is for the DTP vaccine.
00:32:47.000Let's look at all cause mortalities following vaccination.
00:32:52.000And they went to Guinea-Bissau on the west coast of Africa, which had a protocol for distributing the vaccine that had created kind of a natural experiment.
00:33:05.000The way that they gave it out, half the kids in the country at certain ages were vaccinated and half were not.
00:33:15.000So it was a perfect natural experiment.
00:33:18.000And so the Danish government went in and looked at 20 years of data.
00:33:23.000They were able to compare the health of vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids.
00:33:28.000And this study, it wasn't just the Danish government.
00:33:33.000It was on Novo Nordisk, which is a huge vaccine company, the Staff-Sairman Institute of Denmark, which is the other biggest vaccine company in Scandinavia.
00:33:44.000And they commissioned the best scientists in the world.
00:33:48.000It was a very, very prestigious group.
00:33:50.000It was led by Peter A. Abe, who is like a deity in African vaccine, very pro-vaccine.
00:33:57.000And another guy called Stegreen Morgensen, who is the lead author.
00:34:01.000If you want to look this study up, it's called Morgenson 2017, and it's published in e-biopharma in January 2017.
00:34:10.000So that study, what they did, they looked at all this data, and what they found is shocking, which is that girls who got the vaccine were 10 times more likely to die than children who did not get the vaccine.
00:34:28.000And they were dying of things that nobody had ever connected to the vaccines.
00:34:32.000They were dying of pneumonia, of respiratory infections, of diphtheria, I mean, of bilhartsia, anemia, malaria, and dysentery.
00:34:50.000And nobody had ever looked and said, holy cow, it's only the vaccinated girls who are dying.
00:34:57.000And the vaccine was protecting them from diphtheria, attetanus, and britosis, but it had ruined their immune systems so that even minor infections with other illnesses would overwhelm their immune system.
00:35:13.000And nobody had noticed this for 20 years.
00:35:17.000And the Danish government, you know, the scientists who are involved who are very, very pro-vaccine are begging the WHO to stop giving this vaccine to kids.
00:35:29.000And so when you ask me that question, my answer to you is, you know, I'm not going to give my kid a medical intervention unless I understand what the risks are and have a clear idea what the benefits are.
00:35:47.000And for these medical interventions, you need to look at five or 10 years and see, you know, there are over 50 studies now that show that if you got measles when you were a kid, you're much more less likely to get Hodgkin's lymphoma, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, ovarian cancer, atopic diseases, and cardiac diseases when you're older.
00:36:14.000So in ways that we don't understand, getting these childhood diseases, the same is true with chickenpox and pumps.
00:36:22.000Getting these childhood diseases somehow alters your immune system and makes it more robust against certain other illnesses.
00:36:30.000We need a study that says it's still worthwhile to get it because those illnesses kill a lot more people than measles ever did.
00:36:40.000And, you know, we need to know, have a real science here that says, okay, here are the risks from getting this disease, and here are the benefits of getting the vaccine, and here are the costs of getting the vaccine.
00:36:54.000Those kind of studies, other studies that Tony Fauci is in charge of doing, but he makes sure that they never happen.
00:37:01.000And let me tell you this also, Charlie.
00:37:05.000If you're a scientist at a university, here's how Tony Fauci's system works.
00:37:11.000This is not how it always worked, but this is kind of a template.
00:37:16.000He develops the molecules for new drugs in his laboratory.
00:37:21.000So he will take, you know, an existing molecule or potion, let's say, you know, from, let's say, take Pepsid, and you can buy over the counter.
00:37:35.000And he'll have thousands of little Petri dishes filled with coronavirus.
00:37:39.000He'll drop the Pepsid in each of those and see what happens to the coronavirus.
00:37:44.000And he'll experiment with hundreds and hundreds of molecules.
00:37:48.000And eventually they'll find a molecule that kills all the coronaviruses in that Petri dish.
00:37:54.000And then he says, okay, if this thing kills the heck a coronavirus, let's give it to an animal to see if it kills the animal.
00:38:04.000He gives it to rats and guinea pigs and ferrets.
00:38:06.000And if the rats and guinea pigs and parrots don't die from the drug.
00:38:11.000And he says, well, now we got a drug that might work.
00:38:13.000So he farms that out to scientists at universities.
00:38:18.000And those guys are called PIs, principal investigators.
00:38:22.000And they are usually very powerful people in the university.
00:38:25.000They run the departments, they chair, they're the deans, et cetera.
00:38:29.000And they do the phase one, phase two trial.
00:38:32.000So they recruit maybe 40 people at first and give them this drug.
00:38:48.000And Tony Fauci will pay that scientist $15,000 to $20,000 for every patient who recruits.
00:38:58.000The university skims off half of that and keeps it.
00:39:02.000So now the university is involved in this and they're making the money.
00:39:08.000If he gets through the phase two trials, then they give it, then they sell the drug to a pharmaceutical company that pays for phase three, which is really expensive.
00:39:17.000And the pharmaceutical company then takes part the patent.
00:39:23.000The university takes part of the patent.
00:39:26.000Tony Fauci takes part of the patent for NIAT, and he can give patent walking rights to his employees, the guys he likes, the guys he's trying to help.
00:39:39.000And they can get $150,000 a year from every patent that they own.
00:39:49.000With the Moderna vaccine, there's four and maybe six people who he's hand-selected at NIAID that are making $150,000 a year from the Moderna vaccine.
00:40:04.000So that's how he rewards loyalty and makes sure everybody loves it.
00:40:11.000If there is a scientist at Columbia University or Berkeley or Harvard or Baylor University who says, you know what?
00:40:21.000There's a big database out there called the VSA Vaccine Safe Data Link, and we could look in that and see whether vaccines are causing autism.
00:40:33.000And I want to do that because that's a cool area to study.
00:40:38.000He decides he's going to do that study.
00:40:41.000His dean will immediately get a call from one of Tony Fauci's deputies saying, if you let this Joker do that study, we are going to bankrupt your university.
00:40:55.000He has the power all across the nation to make sure not only to dictate what science is done, but also to make sure that the science he doesn't want done never gets done.
00:41:08.000So what you're describing is very similar to the type of industry that the liberals I grew up with used to detest, like the weapons of mass destruction lie or the CIA or the NSA.
00:41:21.000So Robert, you obviously come from one of the legacy Democrat families in America.
00:41:27.000The liberals that I thought liberals cared about the causes of the little man against big banks and the big military industrial complex.
00:41:36.000I'm not trying to politicize this by any means.
00:41:38.000What I'm saying, though, is it seems that the people that would care about this issue are suppressing speech about this issue.
00:41:48.000Why it seems as if the powers at B, especially in the current administration and Tony Fauci and the likes, they seem perfectly okay with pandering to big pharma, while it seems as if they, in other senses, they want to challenge those big power institutions.
00:42:08.000Yeah, I mean, I watched it happen over the years, and I understand why how liberals got to this point.
00:42:18.000And, you know, briefly, what happened was, you know, after Earth in 1970, we passed 28 major environmental laws in this country and a lot of health laws in the early 70s and 80s.
00:42:32.000And the industry started coming back and fighting them.
00:42:35.000And the Democrats kind of formed these bonds with the health regulators and the environmental regulators where the Republicans in Congress were constantly going after the budget, trying to discredit them, trying to make them more industry friendly.
00:42:52.000And the Democrats got in a posture of defending the agencies and defending the people who worked in the agency.
00:43:00.000And they're also ideologically, you know, they were very compatible.
00:43:06.000Those were agencies that were helping Democrats with environmental issues, on toxics, on cigarettes, on even on guns.
00:43:42.000Democrats usually would not accept money from dirty industries.
00:43:49.000But they now started accepting a lot of money.
00:43:52.000It became permissible within the party to accept pharma money.
00:43:55.000And so they became more and deeper and deeper aligned with pharma.
00:43:58.000And then the measles outbreak happened and the concrete began to harden on this kind of disalignment.
00:44:06.000And then when Trump ran and talked openly about the possibility that vaccines were injuring people, the line became very, very solid.
00:44:18.000As you know, it's become very polarized now where anything that Obama likes, every Republican hate, anything that Trump likes, Democrats automatically hates.
00:44:30.000And one of the things, Charlie, that I recognize is that the division and the polarization is that is a strategy by people who are trying to take all of our rights to keep us separate,
00:44:46.000to focus on very, very inflammatory issues and to portray people on both sides of the aisle as unworthy as any American, as any values or whatever, and as not worthy of even listening.
00:45:03.000And so everybody is going into their camps and it's become very, very childless.
00:45:11.000And that is what we used to call the bourbon strategy, which is the strategy for causing, and it's the same kind of cyborg strategy the CIA uses when it wants to take over a country.
00:45:25.000It shatters the economy, it shatters morale, it polarizes people, and then the chaos that comes in imposes authoritarian control.
00:45:36.000And so I really try to avoid that and try to avoid characterizing people, even those who criticize me or disagree with me, because I think it's important to bring everybody onto our side.
00:45:49.000And as you point out, what the liberals are doing today is completely against every traditional liberal method.
00:45:57.000And, you know, they're doing it not because they have turned into bad people.
00:46:03.000They're doing it because they drank the Kool-Aid.
00:46:06.000And they're hypnotized by this orthodoxy.
00:46:09.000And they're, and I think we have to figure out ways to build bridges between, you know, all of the people who are being victimized by this and turn them against these elites, the gays, the FAUGE's, the pharmaceutical companies who are our true enemies.
00:46:27.000So in closing, we just announced a no-forced vaccination push at Turning Point USA to try to give students support and do a massive public relations campaign against the forced vaccination for the COVID-19 vaccine.
00:46:41.000Robert, in closing, what can people do?
00:46:44.000This is a topic that gets the most enthusiasm from our audience, yet people feel the most helpless.
00:46:51.000I have to say, out of everything we talk about on our podcast, it is this.
00:46:55.000I want to do something, but I have no idea what to do.
00:46:58.000What are some practical steps of people that have some sort of interest in this in this crusade?
00:47:04.000Well, I mean, the main thing is, you know, is to inform yourself and to be informed so that you're not, there's a lot of disinformation out there, and a lot of it is coming from the intelligence agencies who are deeply involved in this project and from the industry that seeds the misinformation.
00:47:26.000And then, you know, we end up repeating it on our side and discrediting ourselves.
00:47:32.000Go to the Defender, which is our newsletter.
00:47:37.000And we make sure to vet every fact in there so that what you're reading in the Defender is going to be true.
00:47:44.000And we don't put rumors in there and we try to deflate the rumors when they come.
00:47:51.000Keep yourself informed and then talk to your neighbors and don't back down.
00:49:45.000And kind of in the tradition of the Kennedy family is always picking very tough fights.
00:49:50.000And I think you're at the right place to ask these questions and to continue this fight forward.
00:49:55.000And I want to have you back on to talk about this even more because we have, I probably have 2,000 questions we got about vaccines, but you covered that really, really well.
00:50:04.000So the real Anthony Fauci, everyone pick up a copy.
00:50:07.000And thank you, Robert, so much for joining us today.
00:50:10.000Thank you very much for having me, Charlie, and thank you for leading the fight on this issue.