The Charlie Kirk Show - The Real Anthony Fauci with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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00:01:03.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:04.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:07.000 I've been really looking forward to this conversation.

00:01:09.000 With us today is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has been speaking out against a lot of the topics and issues that you guys care about here on the Charlie Kirk Show, including vaccines and Dr. Fauci.

00:01:23.000 So, first, Robert, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:25.000 You have a new book out on Tony Fauci.

00:01:27.000 What is it called and how can people get it if they want to reference it throughout this conversation?

00:01:31.000 It's called The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the War on Public Health and Democracy.

00:01:41.000 And it's about to come out.

00:01:45.000 100% of the profits from the book go to children's health defense.

00:01:50.000 But we're trying to drive sales.

00:01:53.000 If we get to 10,000 sales, we have 8,600 now.

00:01:58.000 The New York Times has to put it on their list, which will, I think, grieve them, as you can imagine.

00:02:04.000 But I think it's the first real insight that people are going to have about the power that Tony Fauci has.

00:02:14.000 He has a $7.6 billion budget.

00:02:17.000 He gives away every year 13 times what Bill Gates gives away.

00:02:23.000 It gives him control of virtually all the virologists in the world.

00:02:27.000 And that's why every virologist knew that the coronavirus was lab generated.

00:02:33.000 They've known that it's absolutely obvious from four hours.

00:02:37.000 Chris and Anderson, who sent Tony Fauci that I've noticed on the evening of January 5th, they all knew it.

00:02:46.000 And the question is: why do they keep their mouths shut?

00:02:49.000 The reason they keep their mouths shut is because he controls their budget between him, Wellcome Trust, which is the UK version of the Gates Foundation.

00:03:00.000 Bill Gates, they control 90% of the money that's going out to the virology community every year.

00:03:06.000 And they have 10,000 of these virologists on their payroll.

00:03:10.000 And if you are a working virologist, you cannot afford to criticize Anthony Fauci.

00:03:16.000 All the people that you see on CNN every night, the Peter Hotels and all of it, and Ed Schaffner, and all of these people who go on and repeat the orthodoxy, harrow at the orthodoxies about mass about vaccines, about the spread of coronavirus, et cetera.

00:03:39.000 They're all people who are taking money from Tony Fauci.

00:03:44.000 They are not independent.

00:03:45.000 The people who sit on the committee that approve the new vaccines on the Verbac Committee at FBA, on the ACIP committee at CDC, they work for Tony Fauci.

00:03:56.000 Tony Fauci got a call from Bill Gates in the year 2000.

00:04:02.000 Gates brought him out, summons them out to his $147 million mansion on the banks of Lake Washington, Seattle, sat him down in his library and said, let's form a partnership, essentially to vaccinate the whole world and to give immunity from liability to the vaccine companies and to make all of Gates' partners rich.

00:04:26.000 Gates owns huge shares in virtually all the big pharmaceutical companies.

00:04:31.000 And his philanthropy is what he calls philanthropism.

00:04:38.000 It is a money-making and power-generating philanthropy.

00:04:43.000 It has nothing to do with public health.

00:04:45.000 The public health outcomes have dropped dramatically.

00:04:49.000 The more, there's many, many studies that show that the more money a nation takes, an African country, an Asian country takes from Bill Gates for either its agricultural products, agricultural systems, or for its public health systems, the worse public health becomes, a higher infant mortality rates.

00:05:08.000 There is absolutely an inverse correlation between the amount of money that these people put into public health and the actual health outcomes.

00:05:20.000 If you look at Tony Fauci, I'm Charlie.

00:05:25.000 He has his entire life has been failing upward.

00:05:29.000 He's in charge of protecting Americans against infectious diseases, against allergic diseases, against autoimmune diseases.

00:05:38.000 When he came into office in 1968, the rate of chronic disease in American children was 6%.

00:05:47.000 By 1986, when he was running that agency, it risen to 11.8%.

00:05:53.000 Today, it's at 54%.

00:05:56.000 The autism rate has gone from 1 in 10,000 in my generation to one in every 22 boys today, according to CDC.

00:06:05.000 Tony Fauci's job is to ask the question, where is this coming from?

00:06:09.000 Where is the diabetes epidemic?

00:06:11.000 Where are the autoimmune epidemics?

00:06:13.000 The rheumatoid arthritis, the lupus, the Guian Beret, where is all these diseases coming from?

00:06:20.000 Why are our kids all have food allergies today?

00:06:23.000 I had 11 brothers and sisters, 77 cousins.

00:06:27.000 None of them had food allergies.

00:06:29.000 Why do my seven kids have these allergies?

00:06:33.000 And it has to be an environmental toxin.

00:06:35.000 We know that.

00:06:36.000 Genes do not cause epidemics.

00:06:39.000 They can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin.

00:06:42.000 And his job is to find out what it is and to eliminate it.

00:06:47.000 And he, his record has been, it's a record of failure.

00:06:50.000 And if you look at his management of COVID, we have the worst, among the worst death counts in the world. 0.94

00:06:58.000 You go to these Cuba, they had 14 people per million die. 0.96

00:07:04.000 We had 1,600 per million.

00:07:08.000 You look at Norway, 44 per million. 0.96

00:07:12.000 We have among the worst records in the world.

00:07:15.000 Why is anybody paying attention to this guy?

00:07:18.000 Yeah, that's well said.

00:07:20.000 And the name of the book again, just I want to re-emphasize that.

00:07:23.000 The real Anthony Fauci.

00:07:24.000 It's on Amazon.

00:07:26.000 But Amazon, if you can today, you want to do something to advance this movement.

00:07:32.000 Go on Amazon, order a copy of the book.

00:07:35.000 This is going to really piss off the New York Times and everybody else who does not want to acknowledge that there's any argument out there.

00:07:43.000 And, you know, I've been researching this book for over a year.

00:07:46.000 I know everything about this guy.

00:07:49.000 I know everything about his really creepy relationship with Bill Gates.

00:07:54.000 And you know, all the questions that my liberal brethren ask: why would you know Bill Gates isn't a guy who just gives all his money?

00:08:02.000 He's incredibly generous to all the poor people in the world.

00:08:05.000 Why are you saying, you must be crazy to say that he's a bad guy?

00:08:10.000 Anthony Fauci's given 50 years protecting public health.

00:08:17.000 How can you say that he has bad motivations?

00:08:19.000 And this book explains blow by blow how these two gentlemen arrived at where they are and the things that you know that brought them there.

00:08:29.000 Looking at NIH, there have been many, many honest scientists.

00:08:37.000 And if you look who have confronted pharma, Ernice Eddy, who's probably one of the most famous scientists in the history of NIH, she found a monkey virus, a very parcinogenic monkey virus and all the polio vaccines called simian virus 40.

00:08:55.000 Her career was immediately destroyed by her boss at NIH.

00:08:59.000 The locks were changed on her laboratory.

00:09:01.000 She was locked in a basement with no telephone and was told not to talk to anybody.

00:09:06.000 Again, her career was destroyed.

00:09:08.000 John Anthony Morris, who found all the problems with the flu vaccine, in 40 years he ran the flu program at NIH and driven out of the agency because he said the flu vaccine, the fake pandemic that they dreamed of in 76, he said it's a fake.

00:09:26.000 Only one person died in a worldwide pandemic and they did it to sell flu vaccines.

00:09:32.000 And that's what he said publicly.

00:09:35.000 His locks were changed.

00:09:36.000 He was locked in a basement.

00:09:39.000 Judy Mickovitz, the same thing who confronted Tony Fauci about another mouse virus that was in some of the other vaccines, the MMR and others that are causing severe health problems.

00:09:53.000 Her career was destroyed.

00:09:55.000 How do you last 50 years at this agency?

00:09:58.000 The way you do it, why is he the J. Edgar Hoover of public health?

00:10:04.000 He did it by making friends with the people that he's supposed to regulate.

00:10:08.000 He is the, he is, he's given us agency capture on steroids.

00:10:14.000 He has taken that aid.

00:10:15.000 He is a sock puppet for big pharma.

00:10:18.000 And today he's the most powerful health regulator in history.

00:10:22.000 He literally shut down the global economy.

00:10:25.000 Between him and Bill Gates, they grove this shutdown by representing themselves as people who are supposedly interested in our public health.

00:10:35.000 But if you really look at what's happening behind the scenes, they are people who are completely immersed in the vaccine industry, who are making vaccines, patented them.

00:10:47.000 The Moderna vaccine, which he, you know, his agency, I owns 50% of the vaccine patent.

00:10:56.000 So they're going to, they're rolling in dough, the money that we're now, you know, all these college students that you're defending who are getting Moderna vaccine, essentially being coerced to undergo an unwanted medical intervention with an experimental technology that has been shoddily tested.

00:11:18.000 That, and here's the thing about that vaccine, Charlie.

00:11:21.000 When I say people say, why wouldn't you take the vaccine?

00:11:24.000 I would say, well, the company can't get an insurance policy.

00:11:30.000 The insurance industry has said this vaccine is too risky to insure.

00:11:37.000 And they're the ultimate arbiter of risk.

00:11:40.000 Anybody who tells me that the vaccine is safe, I can ask a vaccination.

00:11:46.000 Don't, you know, all I want to, I'm not any vaccine.

00:11:50.000 I'm against any product that can't get an insurance policy.

00:11:54.000 The insurance industry is the ultimate arbiter of risk.

00:11:57.000 This isn't a bunch of, you know, crazy people.

00:12:00.000 These are people from Wall Street with skinny ties and black suits who are saying who aren't making money by assessing risk.

00:12:09.000 And they're saying this vaccine is too risky to insure.

00:12:13.000 So we need the federal government to make us all self-insured.

00:12:18.000 So if you get hurt by that vaccine, it's tough luck for you.

00:12:23.000 You're paying your medical bills.

00:12:25.000 You're, you know, you're out of luck.

00:12:28.000 You are, and we're seeing all these people with lifetime autoimmune diseases now that are being hurt by this vaccine.

00:12:36.000 None of them have any recourse.

00:12:39.000 So I want to take a step back and go through the history of vaccines and kind of how you got interested in this and kind of go through the work that you do and introduce yourself to our audience.

00:12:53.000 And so can you talk about why you have decided to make this a lifelong crusade for you and really what has happened with this kind of vaccine industry?

00:13:03.000 Because if you dare talk about this topic at all, I have never come across a topic where you get more hatred, more silencing, and more censorship.

00:13:13.000 So just talk a little bit about how you got into this.

00:13:15.000 And then also, why is it that we can't have a discussion around vaccines in America?

00:13:20.000 Yeah, I mean, it's an orthodoxy now.

00:13:22.000 It's really about religion.

00:13:23.000 It's not about science.

00:13:25.000 People who get angry, who get rageful when you talk to them about this, none of them can cite a single scientific study.

00:13:33.000 It's all about appeals to authority.

00:13:36.000 You know, the vaccines work because Tony Tauchi says they work or because CDC says they work.

00:13:44.000 That's not science.

00:13:45.000 That's the opposite of science.

00:13:46.000 That's religion.

00:13:48.000 You know, when you're saying this is true because somebody told me it was true, an authority that I believe told me it was true, that is not science.

00:13:56.000 Science is about dissent.

00:13:58.000 It's about questioning.

00:14:01.000 It's about reasoning.

00:14:03.000 It's about critical thinking.

00:14:04.000 And that is now abolished.

00:14:06.000 When you talk about vaccines, there is no critical thinking.

00:14:08.000 There is no debate.

00:14:10.000 There is no discussion.

00:14:11.000 And they cannot afford to have this debate because there are too many difficult questions that simply cannot be answered when you're coercing an entire nation to get an experimental medical intervention that is shown to be dangerous.

00:14:28.000 We know it's dangerous.

00:14:29.000 And you asked me how I got into this.

00:14:32.000 I got into it kicking and screaming.

00:14:34.000 I do not want to be doing this job.

00:14:37.000 I'm an environmental attorney.

00:14:40.000 And I was one of the founders of Water Teeth, which was the biggest water protection group in the world.

00:14:48.000 And I was litigating against polluters my whole life and stumbled onto this issue.

00:14:54.000 I was litigating mainly back in the early 2000s against coal burning power plants for discharging mercury.

00:15:01.000 Mercury is the most toxic, neurotoxic element in the universe that we know of and is not radioactive.

00:15:10.000 And mothers started coming.

00:15:12.000 I was suing 40 power plants at that time in cement kilns around North America.

00:15:16.000 And a bunch of mothers I was touring the country, suing these companies and giving lectures on it.

00:15:26.000 And these moms started showing up at all my lectures and occupying the front row.

00:15:32.000 And they were the mothers of intellectually disabled children.

00:15:35.000 And all of them believed that their child had been injured by mercury and vaccines.

00:15:43.000 I didn't even know there was mercury in the vaccine.

00:15:45.000 And they said, and by the way, I'm fully vaccinated.

00:15:48.000 My children are all fully vaccinated.

00:15:51.000 There was nothing about me that was any vaccine.

00:15:54.000 One of these women came to my home.

00:15:58.000 I did not want to get into this issue. 0.89

00:16:00.000 And one of them, a psychologist from Minnesota called Sarah Bridges, she had a son who got autism from a mercury vaccine.

00:16:10.000 She got a $20 million judgment from the vaccine court saying your son got autism from the mercury vaccine.

00:16:19.000 You know, there's no question about it.

00:16:21.000 She came to my home in the summer of 2005 with a pile this big, 18 inches deep, of scientific studies.

00:16:30.000 And she asked me to read them.

00:16:32.000 And she said, I'm not, she put them on my front porch.

00:16:35.000 She said, I'm not leaving here till you read these.

00:16:37.000 And I'm used to reading science.

00:16:40.000 I've brought over 500 successful lawsuits.

00:16:44.000 Almost all of them involve scientific controversies.

00:16:47.000 And so, you know, if I didn't know how to read science critically, I would be very bad at my job.

00:16:54.000 And I started reading the abstracts from these studies, and I was just blown away because there was such a huge delta between what the government agencies and the pharmaceutical industry was telling us about vaccine safety and what the actual science was saying.

00:17:12.000 And so I started calling out regulators who I knew, you know, I knew Tony Fauci.

00:17:17.000 I talked to him.

00:17:18.000 I knew, you know, all of the big, Marie McCormick from IOM, Kathleen Stratton from IOM, Francis Collins from NIH.

00:17:27.000 I started calling these people.

00:17:30.000 And I realized very quickly that either in most cases, they were completely not conversant with the science.

00:17:37.000 They were telling each other a myth and not actually reading science.

00:17:43.000 And in some cases, like with Paul Offit, who I talked to, he just outright lied to me.

00:17:49.000 And at that point, I was angry.

00:17:52.000 And I began doing litigation and writing, et cetera.

00:17:55.000 But I'll tell you just very briefly what happened in the vaccine industry.

00:17:59.000 When I was a kid, I got three vaccines.

00:18:01.000 Today's children, my kids' generation are mandated before they're 18, if they want to go to school, to take 72 doses of about 16 different vaccines.

00:18:18.000 Some of them, like hepatitis B, you'll get four or five vaccines.

00:18:22.000 But altogether, there are 72 doses.

00:18:26.000 Most of the vaccines are unnecessary.

00:18:29.000 They're for diseases that clearly aren't even casually contagious.

00:18:34.000 And they're clearly, and what happened is in 1970, they recommended a new vaccine called the diphtheria tetanus and protossis vaccine.

00:18:45.000 And that vaccine was killing or causing severe brain injury to one in every 300 kids.

00:18:52.000 CDC said it was one in a million, but NIH commissioned UCLA to do a study and after on how many kids were actually getting severely injured.

00:19:05.000 And the study came back very, very quickly, and it was one in 300.

00:19:10.000 And they were like, holy cow, what have we done?

00:19:14.000 And at that time, plaintiff's attorneys were suing the pharmaceutical company Wyas, you know, Glaxo, Sanofi, Pfizer, and the, and Merck.

00:19:28.000 And the company were losing a ton of money.

00:19:33.000 So Wyatt said at that point it was losing $20 in downstream liability for every dollar that it made in profits.

00:19:41.000 And it went to the Reagan administration and to the Democratic Congress and said, We're going to stop making vaccines altogether unless you give us immunity from liability.

00:19:54.000 Congress passed the Vaccine Act, it gave them immunity from liability.

00:19:57.000 And what that means today is that if you get injured by a childhood vaccine, and no matter how negligent the company was, no matter how reckless they were, no matter how grievous your injury, no matter how toxic the ingredient, you cannot sue that company.

00:20:14.000 There are no class actions, there's no multi-district litigation, there's no discovery.

00:20:20.000 And remember, Charlie, these companies are all serial criminals.

00:20:26.000 They are convicted felons.

00:20:28.000 The four companies that make all of our vaccines in this country collectively have paid $35 billion in the last 10 years for false buying signs, for defrauding regulators, for lying, cheating, stealing, blackmailing, bribing doctors.

00:20:47.000 They're criminal enterprises.

00:20:48.000 These are companies that gave us the opioid epidemic.

00:20:52.000 Do we think they care about public health?

00:20:55.000 No.

00:20:56.000 And so what happens when you abolish litigation against them?

00:21:01.000 There's now no incentive for them to make that product safe.

00:21:06.000 But you suddenly have made the product enormously profitable.

00:21:10.000 So there was a gold rush.

00:21:11.000 And not only are they immune from liability, but vaccines are the only medical product that never has to be safety tested.

00:21:21.000 The reason for that is an artifact of CDC's legacy of the Public Health Service, which was a quasi-military agency.

00:21:34.000 The vaccine program was conceived as a national security defense against biological attacks in our country.

00:21:40.000 And the regulators wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax or some other biological agent, we could quickly formulate a new vaccine and administer it to 200 million American civilians with no regulatory impediments.

00:21:54.000 They said, if we call it a medicine, you have to do five years randomized placebo testing.

00:22:02.000 And we're not going to be able to do that.

00:22:04.000 So let's call it something else.

00:22:05.000 We'll call it a biologic.

00:22:07.000 And then we will make biologics immune from exempt from any kind of safety testing.

00:22:14.000 Oh, there's not a single vaccine that is now given to our children that has ever been safely tested against a placebo in pre-licensing studies.

00:22:25.000 They're all just waved through and greenlighted without safety testing.

00:22:30.000 And so nobody knows what the risk profile is these products.

00:22:35.000 But what we saw is there was a gold rush because now you don't have to do the safety testing.

00:22:41.000 You're immune from liability.

00:22:42.000 Those are the two biggest costs for medical products.

00:22:45.000 And the third cost is marketing and advertising.

00:22:48.000 You don't have to do that because the federal government is mandating that product for 78 million American children.

00:22:56.000 So the plus Tony Fauci and his agency usually pay for the entire development for the vaccine and they even buy the factory for the company.

00:23:07.000 This is a dream product.

00:23:09.000 You can't go wrong with it.

00:23:11.000 All you need is connections.

00:23:13.000 And it's like printing money for these companies.

00:23:17.000 And so there was a gold rush and they went from the three vaccines I had to the 72 vaccines that my kids had beginning in 1989.

00:23:27.000 And in 1989, we saw an explosion in chronic disease in our country.

00:23:36.000 So there's three categories of chronic disease that we saw besides obesity, which is linked to vaccines, by the way, very, very strongly in many studies.

00:23:48.000 Neurodevelopmental disease.

00:23:50.000 So if you were born, you're a young guy, the people who listen to this who are older will recognize that we didn't know any of these diseases when we were kids.

00:23:59.000 They started in 1989.

00:24:02.000 ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, ticks, Tourette's syndrome, never heard of it.

00:24:08.000 Narcolepsy, never heard of it.

00:24:10.000 ASD, autism, nobody in our country had heard of autism prior to Rainman being released in 1988.

00:24:19.000 And now one in every 22 boys has it.

00:24:23.000 The most recent CBC study, which is New Jersey, says now it's one in 12 boys have this.

00:24:30.000 So, you know, this is extraordinary.

00:24:34.000 Then the food allergies and other allergies, allergic diseases, which we know come from vaccines.

00:24:40.000 They come from the aluminum in the vaccines, peanut allergies.

00:24:44.000 When I was a kid, nobody had a peanut allergy.

00:24:46.000 Now every classroom has them.

00:24:49.000 Asthma, eczema, anaphylaxis, et cetera.

00:24:54.000 And the third category and the biggest is autoimmune disease like rheumatoid arthritis, ufile diabetes.

00:25:00.000 Again, we never knew these diseases prior to 1989.

00:25:04.000 Congress actually said to EPA, tell us what year in early development, the autism epidemic began.

00:25:14.000 And the EPA scientists came back and said 1989, it's a red line.

00:25:19.000 That's the year started.

00:25:20.000 Well, that's the year all these new vaccines started piling on it.

00:25:24.000 And so there are about 175 diseases that suddenly became epidemic beginning around 1989.

00:25:33.000 And all of those diseases, those chronic diseases, all of those diseases are listed as side effects on the 72 vaccines that are mandated for our children.

00:25:50.000 Those companies, when I was a kid, were making $187 million those four companies, $187 million a year on vaccines.

00:25:58.000 Today, that industry is $60 billion.

00:26:02.000 But their real money is not coming from the vaccine.

00:26:07.000 It's coming from selling the treatments, the remedies, the chronic diseases that are listed on their own manufacturers' inserts as side effects from the vaccine.

00:26:20.000 The albuterol inhalers and the $600 EpiPens that I get from my kids, the Adderall, the Ritalin, the Concerta, the anti-seizure medication, the diabetes medication, the arthritis medications, all of these, those are, if you look at the top blockbuster drugs, are those four companies, and I'll remind you again, Sanofi, Pfizer, which used to be called Wyatt, Merck, and Glaxo Spentham.

00:26:51.000 They make all 72 of the vaccine given to our children.

00:26:55.000 Virtually all of their top 10 blockbuster drugs are drugs that are marketed to treat injuries that are listed on their vaccine inserts as side effects of their products.

00:27:11.000 But this is like the perfect industry.

00:27:15.000 It's an industry where they are creating disease.

00:27:18.000 Listen, you get me, I got measles when I was a kid.

00:27:21.000 Okay, I'm a measles survivor, right?

00:27:24.000 Measles had virtually stopped killing people by the time they introduced the vaccine.

00:27:30.000 America, the time they introduced the vaccine in 1963, there were only 400 people dying of your kids.

00:27:38.000 There were almost all black kids from the Mississippi Delta and from poor areas of the country that suffered from malnutrition.

00:27:46.000 This is before the war on poverty.

00:27:48.000 And many of them, a high percentage of them, had intellectual disability.

00:27:52.000 So these were almost impossible to die from measles if you're well nourished.

00:27:58.000 And that's when we saw the disappearance of all these diseases because of better nutrition.

00:28:03.000 And but when I was a kid, I got measles as in all of my 11 brothers and sisters.

00:28:11.000 And it was like a party.

00:28:12.000 It was a week home from the school where we, you know, we watched Leave It to Fever and the Andy Griffin show, and we played games, hag all day.

00:28:25.000 So, and what are the treatments for measles?

00:28:28.000 Vitamin A, which the WHO says eliminated, virtually eliminates any chance of death from measles.

00:28:36.000 And chicken soup, well, neither of them can be patented.

00:28:41.000 What if you're giving one out of every 300 of those kids seizures?

00:28:47.000 And what if of every thousand of those now have permanent lifetime epilepsy?

00:28:54.000 Now you've created permanent clients who are dependent on your drugs for the rest of their lives.

00:29:00.000 All of these childhood diseases, measles, months, chicken pox, essentially rashes that we got as a kid, all of them are self-limiting, naturally self-limiting, and all of them are treatable.

00:29:16.000 None of the chronic diseases are curable, none of them.

00:29:20.000 And they, you know, they all require treatment for life.

00:29:23.000 So it's like a cash cow for these companies.

00:29:26.000 And, you know, you wonder why they're so aggressive and why they've made it into a religion.

00:29:33.000 This is why, because it is the most profitable religion in history.

00:29:39.000 So, so, Robert, there's a lot there, and people are just starting to entertain a conversation on this topic.

00:29:48.000 Even in the last 18 months, I've seen people, including myself, I never really cared that much about this topic, to be perfectly honest.

00:29:54.000 But now I've really started to care about it, especially when people say I'm not allowed to talk about it.

00:29:59.000 So, I want to ask a couple of things, and this is a very simple question, but you can go anyway.

00:30:05.000 If you were having a child today, let's say you have a grandchild, would you vaccinate them at all?

00:30:10.000 Would you pick a couple vaccinations?

00:30:12.000 You said there are 72.

00:30:13.000 Would you vaccinate kids today?

00:30:15.000 Well, I wouldn't give any child experimental technology.

00:30:19.000 So, experimental medical interventions.

00:30:22.000 So, I would say, you know, at this point, until you show me, show me a test, show me a study that shows a vaccinated kid is healthier than unvaccinated kid, and I will give every vaccine to my children.

00:30:36.000 But unfortunately, if you go to our website, they will not allow that study to be done.

00:30:42.000 You know, and that, and if you go to our website, there are independent studies that have been done.

00:30:49.000 We have 65 of them on our website, and we will post any study on our website on Children's Health Defense website.

00:30:57.000 If you go and look on our website, vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, we have put everyone that we could find on there, and we have very easy to read graphs.

00:31:10.000 So, you can actually scan all those studies in under five minutes.

00:31:15.000 You can look at them and you can see, you know, the food allergy, allergic linitis, vaccinated kids have 30 times the allergic linitis, unvaccinated kids.

00:31:28.000 And so until vaccinated kids have shorter lives, they're more likely to die.

00:31:35.000 Let me give you an example, Charlie.

00:31:38.000 The DTP vaccine that I talked about earlier, which was pulled in the United States and Europe.

00:31:46.000 But Bill Gates and WHO give it to every child in Africa every year.

00:31:51.000 They give about 161 billion children receive that vaccine every year that white people don't take.

00:31:57.000 Okay, but they're giving it to these kids in Asia and Africa.

00:32:03.000 And it is the most popular vaccine in the world, thanks to Bill Gates.

00:32:07.000 It is used as the flagship vaccine to determine compliance with by various governments with their back with the WHO vaccine program.

00:32:20.000 So in order to get their money for their HIV programs, their health ministries, they have to demonstrate that 80 or 90% of their kids have been vaccinated with this very, very dangerous vaccine.

00:32:30.000 It was hurting all these children.

00:32:33.000 So Bill Gates asked the Danish government to support the program to give the DTP in 2016.

00:32:40.000 And the Danish government said, well, you know what?

00:32:43.000 Let's actually see what the outcome is for the DTP vaccine.

00:32:47.000 Let's look at all cause mortalities following vaccination.

00:32:52.000 And they went to Guinea-Bissau on the west coast of Africa, which had a protocol for distributing the vaccine that had created kind of a natural experiment.

00:33:05.000 The way that they gave it out, half the kids in the country at certain ages were vaccinated and half were not.

00:33:14.000 No, it's completely randomized.

00:33:15.000 So it was a perfect natural experiment.

00:33:18.000 And so the Danish government went in and looked at 20 years of data.

00:33:23.000 They were able to compare the health of vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids.

00:33:28.000 And this study, it wasn't just the Danish government.

00:33:33.000 It was on Novo Nordisk, which is a huge vaccine company, the Staff-Sairman Institute of Denmark, which is the other biggest vaccine company in Scandinavia.

00:33:44.000 And they commissioned the best scientists in the world.

00:33:48.000 It was a very, very prestigious group.

00:33:50.000 It was led by Peter A. Abe, who is like a deity in African vaccine, very pro-vaccine.

00:33:57.000 And another guy called Stegreen Morgensen, who is the lead author.

00:34:01.000 If you want to look this study up, it's called Morgenson 2017, and it's published in e-biopharma in January 2017.

00:34:10.000 So that study, what they did, they looked at all this data, and what they found is shocking, which is that girls who got the vaccine were 10 times more likely to die than children who did not get the vaccine.

00:34:28.000 And they were dying of things that nobody had ever connected to the vaccines.

00:34:32.000 They were dying of pneumonia, of respiratory infections, of diphtheria, I mean, of bilhartsia, anemia, malaria, and dysentery.

00:34:50.000 And nobody had ever looked and said, holy cow, it's only the vaccinated girls who are dying.

00:34:57.000 And the vaccine was protecting them from diphtheria, attetanus, and britosis, but it had ruined their immune systems so that even minor infections with other illnesses would overwhelm their immune system.

00:35:13.000 And nobody had noticed this for 20 years.

00:35:17.000 And the Danish government, you know, the scientists who are involved who are very, very pro-vaccine are begging the WHO to stop giving this vaccine to kids.

00:35:27.000 And yet they're still doing it.

00:35:29.000 And so when you ask me that question, my answer to you is, you know, I'm not going to give my kid a medical intervention unless I understand what the risks are and have a clear idea what the benefits are.

00:35:47.000 And for these medical interventions, you need to look at five or 10 years and see, you know, there are over 50 studies now that show that if you got measles when you were a kid, you're much more less likely to get Hodgkin's lymphoma, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, ovarian cancer, atopic diseases, and cardiac diseases when you're older.

00:36:14.000 So in ways that we don't understand, getting these childhood diseases, the same is true with chickenpox and pumps.

00:36:22.000 Getting these childhood diseases somehow alters your immune system and makes it more robust against certain other illnesses.

00:36:30.000 We need a study that says it's still worthwhile to get it because those illnesses kill a lot more people than measles ever did.

00:36:40.000 And, you know, we need to know, have a real science here that says, okay, here are the risks from getting this disease, and here are the benefits of getting the vaccine, and here are the costs of getting the vaccine.

00:36:54.000 Those kind of studies, other studies that Tony Fauci is in charge of doing, but he makes sure that they never happen.

00:37:01.000 And let me tell you this also, Charlie.

00:37:05.000 If you're a scientist at a university, here's how Tony Fauci's system works.

00:37:11.000 This is not how it always worked, but this is kind of a template.

00:37:16.000 He develops the molecules for new drugs in his laboratory.

00:37:21.000 So he will take, you know, an existing molecule or potion, let's say, you know, from, let's say, take Pepsid, and you can buy over the counter.

00:37:35.000 And he'll have thousands of little Petri dishes filled with coronavirus.

00:37:39.000 He'll drop the Pepsid in each of those and see what happens to the coronavirus.

00:37:44.000 And he'll experiment with hundreds and hundreds of molecules.

00:37:48.000 And eventually they'll find a molecule that kills all the coronaviruses in that Petri dish.

00:37:54.000 And then he says, okay, if this thing kills the heck a coronavirus, let's give it to an animal to see if it kills the animal.

00:38:04.000 He gives it to rats and guinea pigs and ferrets.

00:38:06.000 And if the rats and guinea pigs and parrots don't die from the drug.

00:38:11.000 And he says, well, now we got a drug that might work.

00:38:13.000 So he farms that out to scientists at universities.

00:38:18.000 And those guys are called PIs, principal investigators.

00:38:22.000 And they are usually very powerful people in the university.

00:38:25.000 They run the departments, they chair, they're the deans, et cetera.

00:38:29.000 And they do the phase one, phase two trial.

00:38:32.000 So they recruit maybe 40 people at first and give them this drug.

00:38:39.000 We know it works on animals.

00:38:41.000 We know it works in Petri dish.

00:38:42.000 We know it doesn't kill the animal.

00:38:44.000 So you take it to see what happens.

00:38:46.000 And that's what they do.

00:38:48.000 And Tony Fauci will pay that scientist $15,000 to $20,000 for every patient who recruits.

00:38:58.000 The university skims off half of that and keeps it.

00:39:02.000 So now the university is involved in this and they're making the money.

00:39:08.000 If he gets through the phase two trials, then they give it, then they sell the drug to a pharmaceutical company that pays for phase three, which is really expensive.

00:39:17.000 And the pharmaceutical company then takes part the patent.

00:39:21.000 The PEI takes part of the patent.

00:39:23.000 The university takes part of the patent.

00:39:26.000 Tony Fauci takes part of the patent for NIAT, and he can give patent walking rights to his employees, the guys he likes, the guys he's trying to help.

00:39:39.000 And they can get $150,000 a year from every patent that they own.

00:39:46.000 That's according to HHS rules.

00:39:49.000 With the Moderna vaccine, there's four and maybe six people who he's hand-selected at NIAID that are making $150,000 a year from the Moderna vaccine.

00:40:04.000 So that's how he rewards loyalty and makes sure everybody loves it.

00:40:08.000 Now, here's what I'm getting to.

00:40:11.000 If there is a scientist at Columbia University or Berkeley or Harvard or Baylor University who says, you know what?

00:40:21.000 There's a big database out there called the VSA Vaccine Safe Data Link, and we could look in that and see whether vaccines are causing autism.

00:40:30.000 And nobody's ever actually done that.

00:40:33.000 And I want to do that because that's a cool area to study.

00:40:38.000 He decides he's going to do that study.

00:40:41.000 His dean will immediately get a call from one of Tony Fauci's deputies saying, if you let this Joker do that study, we are going to bankrupt your university.

00:40:53.000 That's the power he has.

00:40:55.000 He has the power all across the nation to make sure not only to dictate what science is done, but also to make sure that the science he doesn't want done never gets done.

00:41:08.000 So what you're describing is very similar to the type of industry that the liberals I grew up with used to detest, like the weapons of mass destruction lie or the CIA or the NSA.

00:41:21.000 So Robert, you obviously come from one of the legacy Democrat families in America.

00:41:27.000 The liberals that I thought liberals cared about the causes of the little man against big banks and the big military industrial complex.

00:41:36.000 I'm not trying to politicize this by any means.

00:41:38.000 What I'm saying, though, is it seems that the people that would care about this issue are suppressing speech about this issue.

00:41:46.000 Can you help explain that to me?

00:41:48.000 Why it seems as if the powers at B, especially in the current administration and Tony Fauci and the likes, they seem perfectly okay with pandering to big pharma, while it seems as if they, in other senses, they want to challenge those big power institutions.

00:42:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I watched it happen over the years, and I understand why how liberals got to this point.

00:42:18.000 And, you know, briefly, what happened was, you know, after Earth in 1970, we passed 28 major environmental laws in this country and a lot of health laws in the early 70s and 80s.

00:42:32.000 And the industry started coming back and fighting them.

00:42:35.000 And the Democrats kind of formed these bonds with the health regulators and the environmental regulators where the Republicans in Congress were constantly going after the budget, trying to discredit them, trying to make them more industry friendly.

00:42:52.000 And the Democrats got in a posture of defending the agencies and defending the people who worked in the agency.

00:43:00.000 And they're also ideologically, you know, they were very compatible.

00:43:06.000 Those were agencies that were helping Democrats with environmental issues, on toxics, on cigarettes, on even on guns.

00:43:18.000 And so they became part of the tribe.

00:43:22.000 And it was still very fluid in 2016 during the measles epidemic.

00:43:30.000 But what happened is in order to pass Obamacare, the Democrats had to make a deal. with the pharmaceutical companies.

00:43:38.000 They had to get pharma on board.

00:43:40.000 And suddenly it became permissible.

00:43:42.000 Democrats usually would not accept money from dirty industries.

00:43:49.000 But they now started accepting a lot of money.

00:43:52.000 It became permissible within the party to accept pharma money.

00:43:55.000 And so they became more and deeper and deeper aligned with pharma.

00:43:58.000 And then the measles outbreak happened and the concrete began to harden on this kind of disalignment.

00:44:06.000 And then when Trump ran and talked openly about the possibility that vaccines were injuring people, the line became very, very solid.

00:44:18.000 As you know, it's become very polarized now where anything that Obama likes, every Republican hate, anything that Trump likes, Democrats automatically hates.

00:44:28.000 And critical thinking is gone.

00:44:30.000 And one of the things, Charlie, that I recognize is that the division and the polarization is that is a strategy by people who are trying to take all of our rights to keep us separate,

00:44:46.000 to focus on very, very inflammatory issues and to portray people on both sides of the aisle as unworthy as any American, as any values or whatever, and as not worthy of even listening.

00:45:03.000 And so everybody is going into their camps and it's become very, very childless.

00:45:11.000 And that is what we used to call the bourbon strategy, which is the strategy for causing, and it's the same kind of cyborg strategy the CIA uses when it wants to take over a country.

00:45:25.000 It shatters the economy, it shatters morale, it polarizes people, and then the chaos that comes in imposes authoritarian control.

00:45:36.000 And so I really try to avoid that and try to avoid characterizing people, even those who criticize me or disagree with me, because I think it's important to bring everybody onto our side.

00:45:49.000 And as you point out, what the liberals are doing today is completely against every traditional liberal method.

00:45:57.000 And, you know, they're doing it not because they have turned into bad people.

00:46:03.000 They're doing it because they drank the Kool-Aid.

00:46:06.000 And they're hypnotized by this orthodoxy. 0.54

00:46:09.000 And they're, and I think we have to figure out ways to build bridges between, you know, all of the people who are being victimized by this and turn them against these elites, the gays, the FAUGE's, the pharmaceutical companies who are our true enemies.

00:46:27.000 So in closing, we just announced a no-forced vaccination push at Turning Point USA to try to give students support and do a massive public relations campaign against the forced vaccination for the COVID-19 vaccine. 0.62

00:46:41.000 Robert, in closing, what can people do?

00:46:44.000 This is a topic that gets the most enthusiasm from our audience, yet people feel the most helpless.

00:46:51.000 I have to say, out of everything we talk about on our podcast, it is this.

00:46:55.000 I want to do something, but I have no idea what to do.

00:46:58.000 What are some practical steps of people that have some sort of interest in this in this crusade?

00:47:04.000 Well, I mean, the main thing is, you know, is to inform yourself and to be informed so that you're not, there's a lot of disinformation out there, and a lot of it is coming from the intelligence agencies who are deeply involved in this project and from the industry that seeds the misinformation.

00:47:26.000 And then, you know, we end up repeating it on our side and discrediting ourselves.

00:47:32.000 Go to the Defender, which is our newsletter.

00:47:37.000 And we make sure to vet every fact in there so that what you're reading in the Defender is going to be true.

00:47:44.000 And we don't put rumors in there and we try to deflate the rumors when they come.

00:47:51.000 Keep yourself informed and then talk to your neighbors and don't back down.

00:47:55.000 Don't comply.

00:47:56.000 Don't back down.

00:47:58.000 Try not to be, you know, to be violent or angry, but continue to insist on your right.

00:48:04.000 We are right.

00:48:05.000 Our side is right.

00:48:07.000 Our values need to prevail.

00:48:10.000 You get the defender.

00:48:12.000 If you want to support us, we really believe that litigation is ultimately going to be our salvation.

00:48:20.000 And we are suing Gates, we're suing Facebook, we're suing Google, we're suing all of the purveyors of this.

00:48:30.000 And vauci and everybody else is behind it.

00:48:33.000 We have teams of lawyers, the people who brought the On Santo cases with me and all the other big cases I've been involved with.

00:48:41.000 But we have real plaintiff's attorneys who know what they're doing on these cases.

00:48:47.000 And we need your support.

00:48:49.000 So, you know, please support CHA.

00:48:51.000 Join us, even if you're not going to send us any financial support because we need to build the army.

00:48:58.000 And, you know, what I would is going to sound self-interested, and I want to give a plug to my book.

00:49:03.000 If you want to do something really concrete, buy a copy of the real Anthony Fauci.

00:49:11.000 Help me drive it onto the bestseller list.

00:49:14.000 Again, all the prophets go to Jones Health unto me.

00:49:18.000 And it's a really important book.

00:49:20.000 It will help you understand what is happening to your world today.

00:49:24.000 Where did this apocalypse come from?

00:49:28.000 How was the CIA involved?

00:49:29.000 How are the intelligence agencies involved?

00:49:31.000 How are the pharmaceutical companies involved?

00:49:34.000 And how are they all working together?

00:49:36.000 Historically, what happened?

00:49:38.000 I trace it all.

00:49:40.000 And, you know, people need to understand it.

00:49:43.000 Well, thank you, Robert.

00:49:45.000 And kind of in the tradition of the Kennedy family is always picking very tough fights.

00:49:50.000 And I think you're at the right place to ask these questions and to continue this fight forward.

00:49:55.000 And I want to have you back on to talk about this even more because we have, I probably have 2,000 questions we got about vaccines, but you covered that really, really well.

00:50:04.000 So the real Anthony Fauci, everyone pick up a copy.

00:50:07.000 And thank you, Robert, so much for joining us today.

00:50:10.000 Thank you very much for having me, Charlie, and thank you for leading the fight on this issue.

00:50:15.000 Thank you.

00:50:18.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:50:20.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:50:22.000 And if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:50:26.000 God bless you guys.

00:50:27.000 Talk to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 10, 2021

The Real Anthony Fauci with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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