The Charlie Kirk Show - February 01, 2024


The RNC Funding Fire Alarm


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The Republican National Committee has the worst year in 30 years in terms of fundraising, and it s all down to Ronna Romney and Ronna McRonna herself. Charlie and I discuss why this is happening and why it s time for a new leader.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000 The RNC has had the worst year fundraising in 30 years adjusted for inflation.
00:00:05.000 Who's to blame for this?
00:00:07.000 Well, we need new leadership.
00:00:08.000 We are pulling the fire alarm.
00:00:10.000 We very well might be headed for a disappointing November if changes are not made.
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00:01:40.000 Breaking news out of Vegas, the RNC fundraising totals are now public.
00:01:44.000 The RNC is having their winter meeting.
00:01:47.000 We had our meeting in Vegas right before.
00:01:50.000 It was very well received and very impactful.
00:01:54.000 Put us in a much better place to win.
00:01:56.000 But we were wondering, how did the RNC do?
00:01:59.000 The FEC reports, the Federal Election Commission reports, were going to be made public very soon.
00:02:03.000 We were curious, did they have a good year?
00:02:05.000 Were they able to consolidate donor support?
00:02:08.000 You see, last year we went to DataPoint.
00:02:10.000 We were lobbying to try to get the RNC membership to actually listen to you, the American people.
00:02:16.000 But the RNC membership largely, they don't care about you.
00:02:19.000 They care about the country club.
00:02:21.000 They care about the access.
00:02:22.000 They don't care about the American people.
00:02:25.000 You're an annoyance to many of them.
00:02:26.000 In fact, they told me that.
00:02:27.000 I remember one guy, one of the committeemen from, I believe the state was Missouri, he said, you know, you, Tucker Carlson, and Steve Bennon, you guys are the problem.
00:02:36.000 You guys don't understand how things work at the RNC.
00:02:38.000 Things are going great here.
00:02:39.000 I'll never forget it.
00:02:40.000 You talking about how great the RNC was.
00:02:42.000 He was bragging on it.
00:02:43.000 The RNC, they are so confident in their own operation.
00:02:48.000 They think they are untouchable.
00:02:50.000 Well, the grassroots has cut them off. 0.95
00:02:54.000 They are so cocky.
00:02:55.000 They thought they had a wonderful 2022 midterms.
00:02:58.000 They thought that they have been posting win after win after win.
00:03:03.000 We have been very patient.
00:03:04.000 We have been trying to get Rana's attention and say, hey, can you fix these things?
00:03:08.000 Can you stop this ridiculous spending?
00:03:11.000 You know, $70,000 on flowers when the Democrats spend $7,000 on flowers or $700 on flowers. 0.58
00:03:18.000 We've been working with urgency.
00:03:19.000 I've been traveling the country away from my family, raising capital, hiring staff, trying to get ballot chasers in place.
00:03:25.000 We didn't have to do this event in Vegas, but we were glad to do it.
00:03:28.000 We were thankful for the opportunity, but honestly, we shouldn't have to do that.
00:03:32.000 But we've been receiving beautiful emails from committeemen and state party chairs.
00:03:36.000 And by the way, we have not been unreasonable.
00:03:38.000 We're not here just to create conflict for the sake of conflict, but we know a pack of losers when we see it, top to bottom.
00:03:45.000 The entire RNC staff in its current form.
00:03:48.000 And the chair, they don't want to win.
00:03:50.000 They don't even know what winning is.
00:03:53.000 These are people that have been on the graft for quite some time.
00:03:57.000 But the sales pitch that Ronna McRomney gave to many people is like, hey, the grassroots might hate me, but the donors, they like me.
00:04:05.000 We can raise a lot of money.
00:04:07.000 And even though the grassroots might be upset, wait till they see how much money we raise.
00:04:13.000 And the 168 members of the RNC, a majority of them, said, okay, we'll continue in this direction.
00:04:22.000 Well, the numbers are out, and there's no more hiding.
00:04:25.000 The RNC raised $87 million in the calendar year of 2023.
00:04:33.000 That is the worst year that they have had raising money since 2013.
00:04:40.000 It is the first year that they have had to post debt on their balance sheet since 2015.
00:04:46.000 By contrast, in 2022, they raised $176 million.
00:04:50.000 In 2021, they raised $158 million.
00:04:53.000 In 2020, they raised $649 million.
00:04:59.000 In 2019, they raised $241 million.
00:05:02.000 In 2018, $231 million.
00:05:04.000 In 2017, $132 million.
00:05:06.000 In 2016, they raised $237 million.
00:05:10.000 In 2015, $105 million.
00:05:12.000 In 2014, $114.
00:05:14.000 You have to go all the way back into 2013, 2013, after Obama gets re-elected.
00:05:22.000 And that was the lowest of the low morale.
00:05:26.000 I remember it.
00:05:27.000 You want to talk about being in the wilderness?
00:05:30.000 In 2013, the movement was in the wilderness.
00:05:34.000 Now, if you take 2013 and put it aside, there was not a year as bad as this year, except 2013, since 2001.
00:05:45.000 And if you adjust for inflation, this is the worst year the RNC has posted since probably afflation adjusted since 1998 or 1996.
00:06:00.000 I mean, you look at 1993, the year I was born, the RNC raised $39 million.
00:06:07.000 So Rana gave us assurances and said, we're going to raise all this money.
00:06:12.000 We're going to build a war chest.
00:06:14.000 $87 million.
00:06:16.000 And then they're in debt and they spent $93 million.
00:06:19.000 And what did they spend the money on?
00:06:20.000 Media consultants, limousines.
00:06:23.000 And the DNC, what are they spending their money on?
00:06:25.000 GOF, get out the vote texting, voter file maintenance.
00:06:29.000 Fact, this is the worst year of fundraising for the RNC since 1993 once adjusted for inflation.
00:06:37.000 Is Rana even trying?
00:06:38.000 Here's what Rana and the RNC are doing.
00:06:40.000 They're attacking me and they're attacking Turning Point time and time again.
00:06:44.000 They circulated hit pieces against me and Turning Point.
00:06:48.000 They had their media consultants maneuvering against us.
00:06:51.000 They've attacked us in the press.
00:06:53.000 When you donate to the RNC, you subsidize the attacking of Turning Point USA and the attacking of Charlie Kirk and the attacking of Turning Point Action.
00:07:01.000 That's not speculation.
00:07:02.000 They go on the record.
00:07:03.000 In fact, the RNC war room alerts back in the fall circulated attack pieces against us.
00:07:09.000 That's what they spend their money on.
00:07:09.000 Turning point.
00:07:11.000 That's what they spend their energy on.
00:07:13.000 But the big donors have cut them off.
00:07:15.000 Rana will go down as one of the greatest political failures in conservative history.
00:07:22.000 You look at the numbers.
00:07:23.000 She inherited an RNC in 2017 and largely 2020, thanks to Donald Trump, that was raising $649 million.
00:07:32.000 And in going into a presidential year, she's raising $87 million.
00:07:37.000 In 2019, a year before our presidential year, 2019, they raised $241 million.
00:07:42.000 And she's raiding $87 million. 0.89
00:07:45.000 But she told us everything was going to be fine.
00:07:47.000 And the members of the RNC, they protected her.
00:07:49.000 And each and every single one of them find their actions repulsive.
00:07:55.000 But now the RNC has a plan.
00:07:58.000 Mirana, she's not backing down.
00:08:01.000 She has a plan, everybody.
00:08:02.000 Her plan is we're going to take out a $10 million loan. 0.95
00:08:06.000 We're going to take out a $10 million loan because we can't raise the money.
00:08:10.000 The grassroots you guys have cut them off.
00:08:12.000 The big donors have cut them off.
00:08:14.000 It's a top-down, bottom-up squeeze of the RNC. 1.00
00:08:17.000 They're a pack of losers. 0.99
00:08:19.000 They don't win anything. 1.00
00:08:20.000 They have a culture of laziness and graft.
00:08:22.000 Limousines, media consultants, no money on GeoTV texting, tons of money on office supplies.
00:08:32.000 But they have one last insult for you, one last insult on you, for you.
00:08:37.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:08:38.000 How many of you in the audience, and by the way, this is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
00:08:42.000 This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
00:08:44.000 Wait till you hear this.
00:08:46.000 How many of you in the audience have donated to Donald J. Trump?
00:08:49.000 Producer Andrew has.
00:08:51.000 If you have donated to Donald J. Trump through a victory committee, which many of you probably have because it's before you really might have realized what you were donating to, and it was like the Donald J. Trump Victory Committee, and you might have donated $100 or $150 or $250 over the last five to 10 years, you are on the donor list of the RNC.
00:09:12.000 And they probably pepper you with these ridiculous solicitations.
00:09:15.000 Now, mind you, we've tried to tell the RNC privately and publicly, hey, the way you guys are raising money is really degenerate and it's really unbecoming of a major political party. 0.92
00:09:26.000 It's out of panic and like a hair on fire.
00:09:29.000 Give us money or else, or the one that I couldn't stand is Donald Trump is so disappointed in you.
00:09:34.000 Give us money.
00:09:36.000 So Rana is taking out a $10 million loan.
00:09:39.000 Now, by the way, the 168 has to approve.
00:09:41.000 And I hope the 168 doesn't approve.
00:09:43.000 But the question that Steve Bannon asked, and it's the best question, what are they collateralizing?
00:09:50.000 The building?
00:09:51.000 No.
00:09:53.000 They're collateralizing you.
00:09:55.000 Now made public, the RNC to try to make up for their shortfall because they're so unpopular and they're so unable to do their job.
00:10:03.000 They are collateralizing their donor list, which includes you.
00:10:09.000 Your data is being used as leverage to keep Rana's RNC regime afloat.
00:10:17.000 I'm not making this up.
00:10:19.000 So they have your data and they go to some bank or some hard money lender and they say, hey, we have 1.3 million names of grassroots American MAGA patriots.
00:10:29.000 Why don't we collateralize this and give us $10 million?
00:10:32.000 And if we default on the loan, you get to have the data of the grassroots.
00:10:36.000 Hard to believe this is not against privacy laws.
00:10:38.000 I'm sure it's legal, but did you guys consent to this when you gave money to Donald J. Trump?
00:10:43.000 When you gave money to a victory committee, when you gave $100 of your social security check, did you consent to eventually have your personal and private address and data collateralized to bail out Rana?
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00:12:16.000 It's hard to even comprehend.
00:12:18.000 I mean, I'm sure it's legal.
00:12:20.000 I'm sure that it's following the law, but the ethics and the morals here are questionable at best.
00:12:26.000 In fact, I find it to be not consistent with donor intent.
00:12:32.000 So, you know, when you give money and you check all these boxes and sometimes you don't read what it says, I'm sure the RNC had there like, hey, we have the right to reuse your data and to share your data.
00:12:45.000 And a lot of people just check the box.
00:12:47.000 And so here's the multiple sources telling Jennifer Van Law that the RNC winter meeting today, committee members were told that a $10 million line of credit, and they're seeking $5 million of which is used in the proposed 2024 budget, will be collateralized with the RNC donor list.
00:13:03.000 Now, I sure hope the RNC members say, no, we're not approving this.
00:13:07.000 No, we're not going to put up with this, but they probably will.
00:13:09.000 There'll be some holdouts.
00:13:10.000 There'll be 50 or 60, 70 patriots, but there'll be about 100 that just think everything is great.
00:13:15.000 And I met these people.
00:13:16.000 They hate you.
00:13:18.000 I don't think they want Donald Trump to become president.
00:13:21.000 They have a bitterness about them.
00:13:23.000 They also are just there for the prestige and to post a Facebook photo.
00:13:28.000 They have great contempt for the grassroots.
00:13:30.000 They think Rana is the greatest chairman ever.
00:13:32.000 They told me that.
00:13:33.000 In fact, many of them told me Rana's the best we've ever had.
00:13:36.000 She does a great job.
00:13:38.000 She has been so wonderful.
00:13:40.000 They told me this to my face.
00:13:42.000 So I would imagine they approve this.
00:13:45.000 But think about it.
00:13:46.000 You're given 20 bucks that you don't have, 50 bucks that you don't have.
00:13:51.000 How many of you probably gave money to the election integrity fund that the RNC had?
00:13:55.000 Where did all that money go?
00:13:56.000 We don't know.
00:13:57.000 Maybe to flowers, limousines.
00:13:58.000 It's just, we don't know.
00:14:00.000 And then they take your data as if they haven't, as if they haven't took enough from you.
00:14:07.000 And then they're completely devoid of capital.
00:14:12.000 They have no trust of the grassroots.
00:14:16.000 And the last thing they have left is to collateralize your data.
00:14:21.000 The last thing they have left is to say, hey, you guys gave money under the pretenses of helping get Donald Trump elected four or five years ago, but we're going to collateralize your email address, your phone number, and your address.
00:14:36.000 Collateralize the people who never donate to them and collateralize the data of people that have cut them off.
00:14:43.000 This is their way to just say two middle fingers like, haha, grassroots.
00:14:48.000 We actually still can keep ourselves afloat.
00:14:52.000 Thanks for the donation five years ago.
00:14:55.000 Meanwhile, Biden's main political action committee is breaking records.
00:15:00.000 I'm telling you, this election is going to be way closer than people think.
00:15:03.000 I cringe sometimes and I love the president, but when he posts on Truth Social, I'm up eight points on Biden.
00:15:09.000 That might be an accurate picture in time, but we got to get to work.
00:15:12.000 I don't think that's helpful right now.
00:15:13.000 I don't.
00:15:14.000 And I say that as someone who's a devotee to Trump, who is as diehard.
00:15:18.000 Biden's going to have so much money.
00:15:20.000 Remember when Carrie Lake said she was up 10% on Katie Hobbs? 0.66
00:15:23.000 Well, we don't have Governor Lake right now.
00:15:25.000 They're going to do shenanigans. 0.74
00:15:26.000 We got to secure our elections.
00:15:27.000 Like enough of this thrown around polls.
00:15:30.000 Biden's going to have billions of dollars.
00:15:32.000 Let me say that again, billions of dollars, not to mention most of the tech companies are going to help Biden.
00:15:36.000 Thank goodness we have Twitter and X so we can get the word out.
00:15:40.000 He's going to control the airwaves of dark money.
00:15:44.000 There's going to be ballot chasers.
00:15:45.000 They're already suing right now in all the courts, and we're not even fighting it because the RNC is too busy buying flowers.
00:15:50.000 The elections are less secure than ever before in Wisconsin.
00:15:53.000 It's moderate improvements. 0.81
00:15:55.000 Arizona is a disaster.
00:15:56.000 Adrian Fontes just put out this new election procedures manual.
00:16:00.000 That is a catastrophe.
00:16:02.000 Biden is smashing fundraising records.
00:16:06.000 And I know a lot of people say, oh, Biden's not going to be the nominee.
00:16:08.000 It could be Michelle Obama.
00:16:09.000 I have a lot of Democrat sources where it seems that has cooled.
00:16:12.000 There was chatter about that with David Ignatius and the regime 60 or 90 days ago.
00:16:16.000 Joe Biden is death-gripping.
00:16:18.000 They think they can win this election on threat to democracy, on abortion, on climate change.
00:16:24.000 They think they can win it on ballot chasing and the cockiness that I see on the right.
00:16:30.000 I saw someone yesterday said, oh, you know, we're going to win and we're going to win 360 electoral votes.
00:16:36.000 I said, just that is not helpful at all.
00:16:38.000 That is 0% helpful.
00:16:40.000 What are you doing?
00:16:41.000 I could tell you what we're doing.
00:16:42.000 We're hiring 300 people in just Arizona at Turning Point Action that honestly, we shouldn't have to be doing this, but we're doing it anyway because the entire Republican apparatus had the worst fundraising year, inflation adjusted, since 1993.
00:16:54.000 What has Rhonda been doing exactly? 0.98
00:16:56.000 How can you be that bad at fundraising?
00:16:59.000 You told us you were great because people see through you.
00:17:03.000 They see that you have had a track record of losing, but she is death-gripping.
00:17:08.000 And her bailout strategy is to take your personal and private data, bundle it, go to a bank and take out a hard money loan to bail out her failed regime. 1.00
00:17:20.000 She's leveraging you, the grassroots.
00:17:22.000 Any one of you that have given money to Donald Trump via the RNC, you are, without you know it, bailing out the RNC.
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00:19:27.000 I need to warn you, this is going to sound really heavy, and it's going to sound as if I'm being pessimistic.
00:19:35.000 Everything I'm about to go through is fixable.
00:19:37.000 This is not a death sentence, but it's a wake-up call, and it's also going to be a reminder that we have to fortify our defenses and get ready because the election really hasn't even started yet.
00:19:51.000 It hasn't even started.
00:19:52.000 Now, the RNC has had their worst fundraising year since the year I was born 30 years ago, inflation adjusted.
00:19:58.000 And Rana and the RNC, they're not going to say this publicly, but one of the reasons they say is, well, it's because we've been so under attack by people like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point.
00:20:06.000 Well, they haven't said that publicly, but privately, we've heard that that's some of the chatter.
00:20:11.000 Hold on a second.
00:20:12.000 No one is more under attack than Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:20:15.000 And praise God, we did very, very well with fundraising this last year, near record highs, right near it.
00:20:21.000 The final numbers were still, but it's just right near record highs, 300,000 people.
00:20:25.000 It's because we produce results and we work our tail off.
00:20:28.000 And we have a team of winners.
00:20:29.000 And we admit when we don't do things right and we adjust and we listen to the grassroots, the RNC doesn't do any of that.
00:20:35.000 And also just we have a culture of winners here at Turning Point.
00:20:38.000 These are people that could be working at high-level companies.
00:20:41.000 They could be working for high-level banks.
00:20:43.000 The RNC, just the quality of your average RNC staffer, they're very unimpressive people.
00:20:48.000 I wouldn't hire them to do anything.
00:20:49.000 I'm not saying they're all bad people, but they're not exactly the elite.
00:20:53.000 These are people that were like former congressional staffers.
00:20:56.000 They like to go out and drink at night and, you know, they might work four or five hour days.
00:21:00.000 They're not warriors.
00:21:01.000 They're not the, they're not people that Elon Musk would hire to get a rocket to go into space.
00:21:07.000 Honestly, some of these people at Turning Point, Elon would hire at SpaceX.
00:21:12.000 I could say that 100%.
00:21:14.000 The work ethic, the intelligence, the wisdom.
00:21:18.000 So I'm going to go through a couple of data points, and it's going to sound like I'm being overly negative, but this is a wake-up call.
00:21:22.000 I'm just going to tell you right now that the election hasn't even started.
00:21:26.000 Number one, we have this whole lawfare primary that we have to go through.
00:21:29.000 This is not the time to cover this extensively, but the lawfare primary is going to test the resolve of Donald Trump and our movement.
00:21:39.000 We're talking Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Fannie Willis. 0.95
00:21:42.000 Thankfully, the Fannie Willis thing is trending in the right direction. 0.89
00:21:44.000 People are seeing her as the corrupt individual that she is. 1.00
00:21:49.000 The Alvin Bragg one is going to materialize.
00:21:51.000 The 14th Amendment efforts, the lawfare primary is going to be in February, March, and April.
00:21:56.000 We're going to have the political deathblow of Nikki Haley coming up in a couple of weeks. 0.76
00:22:00.000 Even big donors are fading from Nikki Haley.
00:22:02.000 There's a piece in the New York Times that big billionaire donors that don't like Donald Trump, they're reconsidering their options.
00:22:07.000 Good.
00:22:07.000 We need every dollar that we can right now.
00:22:09.000 We need every single dollar that we can because Joe Biden is smashing fundraising records.
00:22:14.000 Now, they're going to outspend us.
00:22:16.000 And there's a talking point on the right that I just want to push back.
00:22:18.000 Some people say, oh, we don't need their money.
00:22:21.000 We're going to win with just grassroots.
00:22:23.000 Look, that is not wise.
00:22:25.000 We are going to get outspent.
00:22:27.000 But it's at some point you have to close the gap within your just competitive.
00:22:30.000 If you're outspent 10 to 1, I don't care how much grassroots you have.
00:22:34.000 You could run ads and ads and ads.
00:22:35.000 Be honest, some people are just low information voters on the left, and they get mobilized.
00:22:40.000 Like, oh, my goodness, they're going to take my abortion rights away. 1.00
00:22:43.000 And it's the number one issue.
00:22:44.000 And where's my ballot?
00:22:45.000 And then they have thousands of ballot chasers that they deploy in Arizona and Georgia.
00:22:49.000 And there's only so much you could do to overcome that.
00:22:51.000 You got to close the money gap.
00:22:52.000 And the RNC has proven they cannot do that.
00:22:56.000 And another story out today, and this is going to be taken out of context, if I'm not super precise in my language.
00:23:02.000 And by no means saying that Ron DeSantis is the only reason why we are in a non-competitive position.
00:23:10.000 But I think we're in a unique place because we were awfully vocal about this.
00:23:14.000 And I basically obliterated our relationship with the DeSantis camp over our communication on this because it was true.
00:23:22.000 Ron DeSantis' numbers have also come out.
00:23:24.000 So this is FEC Day, basically.
00:23:26.000 So you get all the numbers of the DNC, the RNC, all the super PACs, the Trump PAC.
00:23:26.000 It's February 1st.
00:23:31.000 FEC Day is interesting.
00:23:32.000 You get all these publicly disclosures.
00:23:33.000 So you can finally see, hey, what's going on here?
00:23:35.000 New York Times reports, here's how much cash Ron DeSantis burned through against Trump.
00:23:41.000 Now, you can go back on the Charlie Kirk show podcast page.
00:23:43.000 For those of you that listen, you know, we have been so clear, so outspoken, and cautioning Ron DeSantis saying, hey, you are wasting and burning money.
00:23:51.000 You should spend this on general election infrastructure.
00:23:54.000 The $130 million that you're about to burn through is not going to be well spent.
00:23:58.000 You're not going to be the nominee.
00:24:00.000 And we were attacked by many different people on the DeSantis side saying, oh, you don't know what you're talking about, Charlie.
00:24:05.000 I could go to the clips.
00:24:06.000 They mocked me.
00:24:07.000 They smeared me.
00:24:09.000 They slandered me.
00:24:10.000 They came after me.
00:24:11.000 Oh, Charlie doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:24:13.000 Of course, Ron DeSantis should do this.
00:24:15.000 I could name names.
00:24:16.000 And these people still go on TV.
00:24:17.000 They go on cable television.
00:24:19.000 They're trusted as experts.
00:24:21.000 And they were all wrong because we know the grassroots.
00:24:23.000 We saw what was happening.
00:24:24.000 It wasn't just us.
00:24:25.000 It was Steve Bannon, Jack Posobic, Tucker.
00:24:27.000 So Ron DeSantis, was the money spent on full-time ballot chasers?
00:24:32.000 Was the money spent on election integrity lawsuits?
00:24:34.000 No, Ron DeSantis vaporized $130 million.
00:24:38.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden has a record war chest.
00:24:41.000 This was our warning all summer.
00:24:44.000 By the way, it didn't make my job to raise capital easier.
00:24:48.000 You know how many Ron DeSantis donors stopped giving money to Turning Point because we were saying that it was a complete waste of time?
00:24:54.000 I was at an event in late November, early December in Naples, Florida, a donor event.
00:25:01.000 And I went up on, this was just about two months ago.
00:25:03.000 And I said Ron DeSantis should drop out.
00:25:05.000 And people were, you know, like murmuring and they said, I'm never going to give money to Charlie or Turning Point.
00:25:08.000 Ron DeSantis is the greatest thing ever.
00:25:10.000 How dare he say that?
00:25:11.000 And I said, listen, the numbers just aren't there.
00:25:13.000 And that Ron DeSantis is directly playing into the Joe Biden reelection efforts.
00:25:16.000 Well, it turns out we were right.
00:25:17.000 The astounding sum, this is New York Times.
00:25:21.000 I'm just going to read word for word.
00:25:22.000 It costs more than $160 million for Ron DeSantis of Florida to come in second place in a single nominating contest.
00:25:27.000 That astounding sum makes Ron DeSantis' failed presidential bid among the most expensive in modern Republican primary elections.
00:25:33.000 The details of where the money was laid out is finally in this federal election commission report on Wednesday.
00:25:38.000 Shows just how much free spending Mr. DeSantis and his allied in Super PACs were.
00:25:42.000 53 million of it went to a Republican strategist firm.
00:25:46.000 31.3 million of it went to television advertising time.
00:25:50.000 3.3 million of it went to private airfare between the campaign and Never Back Down.
00:25:54.000 All, as the New York Times writes, for 23,420 votes in Iowa.
00:25:59.000 So now, Blake, you went to Dartmouth.
00:26:02.000 What is $160 million divided by $23,420?
00:26:08.000 Get the final number for me.
00:26:10.000 $160 million divided by $23,420.
00:26:13.000 The bulk of the money, $130 million, was spent by Never Back Down.
00:26:17.000 Okay, so, okay, got it.
00:26:18.000 Okay, so Ron DeSantis spent $6,831 per vote in Iowa.
00:26:23.000 $6,831 per vote in Iowa.
00:26:29.000 We said all along back in July, drop out, Ron DeSantis.
00:26:32.000 Go be a great governor of Florida.
00:26:34.000 Build your stock for a future presidential race and be the hero that defeated Biden.
00:26:39.000 You could have the Ron DeSantis ballot chasing army.
00:26:42.000 Donors would love you.
00:26:43.000 You could raise a couple hundred million bucks.
00:26:44.000 You could fly the country private.
00:26:47.000 You could hire 3,500 ballot chasers.
00:26:49.000 Or, hey, what if Ron DeSantis would have swooped in and said, Mr. President, I want to run the RNC and I'm going to have my pack?
00:26:55.000 Whoa.
00:26:56.000 Obviously, Ron DeSantis can raise a lot of money.
00:26:59.000 No, but instead, Ron DeSantis went on this ego trip.
00:27:01.000 I'm sorry, there's no other way to put it.
00:27:03.000 And it has put us at a serious structural disadvantage.
00:27:07.000 I'm not saying that he shouldn't have run for the first place.
00:27:09.000 Test the waters out.
00:27:10.000 In June, by the way, if you just want to talk about how like the political gods were trying to tell you that you shouldn't run, it was by far one of the clumsiest, most embarrassing political announcements ever.
00:27:21.000 That should have just showed you.
00:27:23.000 All right, I see the writing on the wall.
00:27:25.000 And by the way, he announces on Twitter and he's like reading an op-ed and it was so scripted.
00:27:30.000 It was the whole thing was very cringe.
00:27:33.000 But I'm all for running.
00:27:35.000 See if it plays in Peoria.
00:27:37.000 But around July or August, especially after the first debate, and you're down 45 points in national polls and you're hemorrhaging cash and you realize that the base is turning your back on you, drop out, make a pivot, and help the general election candidate who obviously was going to be Trump make a change.
00:27:54.000 And that's one of the things that just drove me nuts: the hubris and the pride and the self-righteousness of the people around DeSantis. 0.99
00:28:02.000 And I was trying to text them and they were calling me idiots and they were calling Andrew idiots and they would ignore us. 1.00
00:28:07.000 No humility, no coaching, no adjustments. 1.00
00:28:10.000 They're like, no, we know what we're doing.
00:28:11.000 Full throttle and acceleration.
00:28:13.000 Well, you guys just wasted, I'm sorry, wasted $160 million precious dollars that we desperately need right now.
00:28:22.000 And we don't have it.
00:28:23.000 And what do you have to show for it?
00:28:24.000 Well, you spent $6,831 per vote in Iowa.
00:28:29.000 That's like Mike Bloomberg level.
00:28:31.000 That's like Mike Bloomberg level.
00:28:33.000 What did Bloomberg spend in Guam?
00:28:35.000 I think he ended up spending like $10 million per delegate or something.
00:28:40.000 $6,831 per vote.
00:28:44.000 Ron DeSantis could have gone around the state of Iowa and said, Hey, if you will caucus with me for me, my super PAC will send you a stimulus check of $2,500 cash.
00:28:55.000 And he would have saved 66% per vote.
00:28:59.000 He would have won, maybe.
00:29:01.000 He could have had big signup fares, get a payable cash check for $2,500.
00:29:10.000 I will give you cash to vote for.
00:29:12.000 I don't know if this is legal or not, but it would have been more economical instead.
00:29:16.000 He spent $6,831 per vote.
00:29:20.000 We're going to keep diving into this.
00:29:22.000 And some people, you know, say, but Charlie, this is the past.
00:29:25.000 No, it's not the past.
00:29:26.000 It's the current.
00:29:28.000 It's DeSantis and that pack of prideful people around him that put us in this disadvantage.
00:29:34.000 And may we never forget.
00:29:36.000 It wasn't like he spent 10 million bucks like Tim Scott.
00:29:38.000 Like, who cares?
00:29:39.000 Okay.
00:29:40.000 $160 million.
00:29:47.000 This is not playtime.
00:29:48.000 We have benefited for years on Trump's ability to bring out voters just on his name ID.
00:29:54.000 This is not going to happen again just automatically.
00:29:56.000 There is no machine.
00:29:58.000 The best way I could put this is in the most valuable year of preparation.
00:30:02.000 This is what drives me nuts.
00:30:03.000 It drives me out of my mind. 0.98
00:30:05.000 Is all, let's just forget the money for a second, all the energy that Rana and that group of losers put into the debates. 0.97
00:30:14.000 You didn't have to do the debates in the flashy Reagan library and all that garbage. 0.58
00:30:18.000 Now they might say, oh, well, we have to officially do debates because we have committees and bylaws and all this.
00:30:22.000 Okay, maybe a debate.
00:30:24.000 But honestly, you could have just rented an arena, had Dan Bongino and Steve Bannon and Real America's voice and flip the bird to NBC.
00:30:36.000 You didn't have to do some sort of multi-million dollar stage build out and say, we're spending our money on the stuff that matters.
00:30:43.000 Instead, we have all the how many different debates did we have to tolerate here?
00:30:47.000 That was just a complete waste of time.
00:30:48.000 For what?
00:30:49.000 So that Rana could be chauffeured in as if she's the Sultan of Brunei? 0.95
00:30:54.000 She's like princess, the princess of the RNC.
00:30:57.000 A lot of people are fixating on these polls that show Trump up seven points and five points.
00:31:02.000 You got to mark that down within five points immediately because Biden is going to spend so much money.
00:31:07.000 And don't underestimate the single woman vote, the abortion vote.
00:31:10.000 Don't underestimate the spin of the media.
00:31:13.000 They're going to make it all about abortion. 1.00
00:31:14.000 They're going to mobilize ballot chase, 30 days of voting.
00:31:17.000 And what do we have to respond?
00:31:19.000 Right now, we don't have any machinery except turning point action.
00:31:22.000 And I'm not just saying that.
00:31:23.000 If you guys know of any other national organization that is hiring full-time people on the right, please email me about them, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:30.000 I'm not talking about five or six people, but hundreds of people.
00:31:32.000 They're already poll tested this.
00:31:34.000 Their ads are going about abortion, saving democracy, and this stuff works.
00:31:39.000 We are in a bad spot structurally right now.
00:31:42.000 You know what makes me sick?
00:31:43.000 Is this should be a blowout election?
00:31:46.000 This should be a blowout election.
00:31:48.000 If we even had 1% of an idea of what we were doing, and if Rana steps down, great.
00:31:54.000 That's just when the work begins.
00:31:54.000 But you know what?
00:31:56.000 Basically, it's like move Rana, get out of the way, and then we're going to have to be in a crisis.
00:32:01.000 We're going to have to fix this thing.
00:32:02.000 We're going to have to fix the plane while it's taken off.
00:32:04.000 We don't have time.
00:32:05.000 This is why we went so hard in Dana Point last year with Harmeet.
00:32:10.000 Let's say Rana theoretically steps down, which I have no idea if she will. 0.98
00:32:13.000 That doesn't necessarily solve the problem.
00:32:15.000 We got a nine-point punch list.
00:32:18.000 You got to raise $30 million in 30 days.
00:32:20.000 Who the next RNC chair is?
00:32:22.000 You got to hire 150 people, minimum in the grassroots.
00:32:25.000 I don't know because you have to go remedy all the broken relationships that you guys have stomped on.
00:32:25.000 Where are you going to find them?
00:32:31.000 You have ticked off every grassroots group.
00:32:34.000 Number three, you got to figure out your grassroots donor problem.
00:32:37.000 Number four, you have this line of credit where you're collateralizing the donor list of the grassroots.
00:32:43.000 How are you going to raise more grassroots dollars, RNC, if you're using the private home addresses, emails, and insensitive banking information data, collateralizing that to get a line of credit?
00:32:53.000 You got to fix that.
00:32:55.000 You got to figure out how you're going to counter the multi-billion dollar TV ad spend.
00:32:58.000 You got to go win over the big donors, which, by the way, do not want to support Republicans anymore.
00:33:03.000 I have a top-level billionaire source that says, quote, corporate America is still cold to Trump.
00:33:09.000 They don't like Biden, but they will support Biden over Trump.
00:33:11.000 So we're going to get outspent.
00:33:12.000 You got to figure that out.
00:33:13.000 You have a convention that you have to host that is a tens of millions of dollars production minimum that you got to host in July.
00:33:22.000 And I'm just barely touching the surface.
00:33:24.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats, they're unpopular.
00:33:26.000 They hate the country, but they have more money than ever.
00:33:29.000 They have an incredible machine.
00:33:31.000 And right now, Biden is going around on Air Force One and he's doing $250,000 plate fundraisers and he is raking it in.
00:33:38.000 And they are building a war chest to win.
00:33:41.000 What are we doing?
00:33:42.000 We're playing patty cake about collateralizing.
00:33:45.000 This thing is a joke.
00:33:47.000 It is an insult to our intelligence.
00:33:49.000 Nobody in business should put up with this.
00:33:51.000 As somebody who has been blessed to now run a $100 million operation between Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, I find this so insulting.
00:33:59.000 We deserve better than this.
00:34:00.000 We need an opposition party.
00:34:01.000 It's not hard.
00:34:03.000 And you might say, oh, Charlie, who would you say?
00:34:04.000 Actually, we can say this.
00:34:06.000 We run a big thing here.
00:34:07.000 We know what it takes.
00:34:08.000 And I could tell you right now, the people, and it's not just Rana.
00:34:11.000 If Rana gets out of the way, top to bottom, you fire the janitor, you fire everybody.
00:34:17.000 The secretary, it's got to be a top to bottom, scorched earth operation.
00:34:21.000 You get them out.
00:34:22.000 Andrew says, maybe not the janitor.
00:34:24.000 I'm talking metaphorically, okay?
00:34:27.000 The janitor can keep their job.
00:34:28.000 God bless the janitor.
00:34:30.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:32.000 I love janitors, but it's a part of speech.
00:34:37.000 Meaning, it's like football.
00:34:39.000 You're going to keep everyone, you fire everyone.
00:34:41.000 Wholesale change.
00:34:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:46.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:49.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:51.000 God bless.
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