The Charlie Kirk Show - The Taylor Swift Question and 2024

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00:01:27.000 Joining us now are two Swifties, Alex Clark and Daisy.

00:01:31.000 Daisy does a great job for us, Daisy Phelps on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:01:35.000 I was going to say a different last name, but it's Daisy Phelps now, right?

00:01:38.000 And we have two Swifties.

00:01:40.000 So, Alex, do you want to go first?

00:01:42.000 What's going on here?

00:01:43.000 I haven't even talked about this.

00:01:45.000 This is like the number one story.

00:01:46.000 Which is new for you.

00:01:47.000 It is new.

00:01:48.000 I know.

00:01:48.000 It's been good.

00:01:49.000 Somehow, in the last week, this has become the number one story in America.

00:01:54.000 Is MAGA going after Taylor Swift?

00:01:57.000 It is on Washington Post, CNN, Glamour Magazine, Rolling Stone.

00:02:03.000 It's absolutely everywhere, trending everywhere.

00:02:07.000 And I cannot even explain to you how high my cortisol levels are.

00:02:12.000 I have gotten in so many arguments over this.

00:02:14.000 I think this is one of the biggest.

00:02:16.000 I think looking back, this will be one of the biggest election mistakes conservatives will have made in hindsight, is this entire ridiculous Twitter drama.

00:02:26.000 No, I agree.

00:02:27.000 I think I've been saying this for a while now, at least like behind the scenes.

00:02:31.000 I think that, and Tim Poole was just talking about this this morning, the biggest op is MAGA going after Taylor Swift, not Taylor Swift herself.

00:02:40.000 She needs a conflict to be made into a political opponent. 1.00

00:02:44.000 So do you think that it's forcing, it's going to make it more likely she does get involved politically?

00:02:50.000 Is that the argument?

00:02:51.000 Yeah, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:02:53.000 Everybody's saying it's a psyop that Taylor Swift, that Soros bought her music, so then she started dating Travis Kelsey, Schilford, Soros, and Big Pharma.

00:03:02.000 And now she's going to be at the Super Bowl with her boyfriend.

00:03:04.000 That this whole thing was an op to get Biden re-elected or whatever.

00:03:07.000 Basically, what's happening is now we've made the election, at least this week, about Trump versus Taylor Swift, not Trump versus Biden.

00:03:16.000 Now, hold on.

00:03:16.000 Let me just ask that.

00:03:17.000 Wasn't there an article in the New York Times where they, and maybe this was all part of the left sop where Biden was going to seek Taylor Swift's endorsement.

00:03:27.000 Isn't that what really prompted?

00:03:28.000 I mean, it was, it almost, so they win the AFC championship game, they go to the Super Bowl, and then there's this New York Times article that Biden is at the top of his list.

00:03:35.000 I mean, again, that's not a good idea.

00:03:36.000 I'm sure she is.

00:03:37.000 I mean, that's not breaking news.

00:03:38.000 I don't know why this is news. 0.98

00:03:40.000 If anyone that's smart would want Taylor Swift's endorsement for their candidacy, I mean, that's as dumb as the culture can be. 0.97

00:03:47.000 That's going to make people vote. 0.96

00:03:48.000 She's the number one pop star in the world.

00:03:49.000 Trump would also, if all of a sudden Taylor Swift overnight emphatically came out for Trump, Trump would be the first person posting stuff about Taylor, you know, endorsing him.

00:03:59.000 I mean, anyone is going to do that.

00:04:01.000 And because she publicly endorsed Biden in 2020, yes, their campaign is going to want her endorsement.

00:04:07.000 The thing is, is that Taylor Swift, she's always been huge, but arguably in the last year, we've seen, you know, her have the number one concert movie, breaking records with her global tour, all of these different things.

00:04:20.000 She's bigger than she's ever been.

00:04:22.000 And so now more than ever, whoever she endorses is going to have, you know, a big impact.

00:04:28.000 Now, in the grand scheme of things, do I personally think that Taylor Swift's impact is really going to be that dramatic?

00:04:35.000 I mean, I'm seeing these polls, everybody sharing, like, it's this scary thing.

00:04:38.000 Like, all these voters say that they could be swayed to vote for whoever Taylor Swift says.

00:04:43.000 Never in the history of election years have people really put that much weight on who a celebrity says to vote for.

00:04:50.000 Hillary Clinton paraded around Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus and all this kind of stuff in 2016. 0.99

00:04:56.000 That had no impact.

00:04:57.000 At the end of the day, no, at the end of the day, middle American, average Americans are not going to vote for whoever Taylor Swift says.

00:05:06.000 Is she going to have a minuscule impact on Gen Z voters who are voting for the first time? 0.93

00:05:14.000 Maybe. 0.63

00:05:15.000 Maybe.

00:05:15.000 And they always like to bring up the evidence that Taylor Swift broke records with registering voters in Tennessee for Senate, Senator Phil Bredesen.

00:05:26.000 That whole race.

00:05:28.000 The truth is, is that she posted a voter registration link on the same day it was the last day to register to vote for the state of Tennessee.

00:05:35.000 So nobody knows if it was really her posting a link to register to vote that was bringing in voters or it just being the last day to register.

00:05:42.000 You can't really put that on Taylor Swift.

00:05:43.000 So there's really no evidence that she's going to have this really scary impact on the election.

00:05:48.000 I think what's more likely than Taylor Swift saying, vote for this person, everyone goes vote for that person is seeing how horrible Republicans can be to what these fans just see as just a woman who writes music that they love and really feels like she understands the feelings that they have.

00:06:05.000 If they see MAGA going after this person and turning them into a villain, that's going to turn them more off to MAGA than Taylor Swift herself would. 1.00

00:06:13.000 Interesting.

00:06:14.000 So then they could be more.

00:06:16.000 I mean, is there any other pop star where the last name people self-identify as right now?

00:06:22.000 Well, every pop star has like a fan base that they call themselves.

00:06:26.000 Yeah, you've got Nikki Minaj, Barb. 1.00

00:06:28.000 Yeah, Aryanators, Celine Aaters. 1.00

00:06:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:32.000 Every pop star has a group like this.

00:06:34.000 But I think, and kind of, you were saying this the other day, I remember about like Michael Jackson, Elvis, the Beatles.

00:06:38.000 Like this has always been a thing where these huge pop stars have had these cult followings.

00:06:41.000 But I think something about Taylor Swift is really hateable for men.

00:06:45.000 I don't know what it is.

00:06:47.000 But it's the first time that it's getting that much pushback because in the past, it's been a lot of men that have been this big.

00:06:53.000 Majority of her young female voters already hate Trump. 1.00

00:06:56.000 And they already have bought into the narrative, as have Taylor, this typical liberal narrative of, you know, Trump is the sexist, misogynistic pig. 0.99

00:07:03.000 And now you have her trending nationwide on Twitter with conservative men going after her for, you know, her alleged body count and calling her a whore and just all of these horrible things for what? 0.99

00:07:18.000 That is fueling them. 0.78

00:07:20.000 If they were already like, eh, you know, I don't know even if I'll vote or anything, now they have a reason because we've given them a reason.

00:07:28.000 I think the negative consequences of conservative men going after Taylor Swift outweigh the positive benefits.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, I mean, so you, so, I mean, but does she not have a high body count? 1.00

00:07:38.000 Here's gross for any guy to talk about that. 0.77

00:07:43.000 I think it's gross.

00:07:44.000 But like, she's the most popular person in the world and she talks about morality.

00:07:47.000 Like, so we can't say that.

00:07:48.000 You absolutely similar to Miley Cyrus or Katie Perry.

00:07:51.000 Anything, she's way. 0.97

00:07:52.000 I mean, Matt Walsh's tweet this morning, he was like, if I were to make a list of the most degenerate offensive pops, she wouldn't even be in the number one, right?

00:08:01.000 She's the most, I mean, Miley's Harrison number one at one point.

00:08:04.000 She's the bangers to her. 0.99

00:08:06.000 She's naked. 0.99

00:08:06.000 I think we all agree, Miley's pretty repulsive, right? 0.99

00:08:09.000 Yeah, in comparison.

00:08:11.000 Taylor Swift is undeniably way more modest than pop stars of the past, a lot more wholesome.

00:08:21.000 She, majority of her songs, have nothing to do with sex. 0.98

00:08:26.000 It's like, why is this the person that we are so threatened by and think she is some representation of some great moral failure?

00:08:34.000 I don't see the evidence of that.

00:08:37.000 There's sole model.

00:08:39.000 No, I don't think any, I don't think any secular pop star is a good role model.

00:08:44.000 I don't think when people say, like, well, she's not a great role model for our children, I prefer this celebrity instead. 0.55

00:08:49.000 I'm like, no celebrity is a great role model.

00:08:52.000 Number one.

00:08:53.000 This morning, some of my, you know, not all of my audience either of young women likes Taylor Swift, especially amongst conservatives.

00:09:00.000 And somebody brought up, they said, you know, I can't stand Taylor Swift.

00:09:03.000 I think she's a terrible role model. 0.99

00:09:04.000 I prefer Shania Twain. 0.92

00:09:06.000 Guess what?

00:09:06.000 Takes three seconds to Google Shania Twain.

00:09:08.000 She has defended drag queens and LGBTQ and all this other stuff.

00:09:11.000 I said, here's the real, the real situation.

00:09:14.000 Every, pretty much, besides three, Jason Aldean, Ted Nugent, I don't, someone, one other person, all celebrities are going to lean liberal.

00:09:22.000 There is if we, yeah, Roseanne Barr, if we were to write off all celebrities that are liberal, we would have no one to watch, no one to listen to.

00:09:30.000 We'd all be living under an overpass in a cardboard box.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, but it's just here.

00:09:34.000 Here's the issue I have.

00:09:35.000 I don't disagree with what you guys are saying.

00:09:37.000 And even if I did, I'm not that overly interested at this point.

00:09:39.000 I got a lot of other fights on my hand, literally.

00:09:42.000 But I guess it's almost like she's the biggest cultural phenomenon who's then who's then like, and I know this is, this doesn't resonate with you, but the reason why more men are speaking out about it is that it's like forced into our holy time of NFL football.

00:09:58.000 And I know I, that, and it's just like, oh, it's, it's become more about Taylor Swift than about the NFL.

00:10:03.000 That doesn't bother, that doesn't resonate much with me.

00:10:05.000 I'm just telling you what a lot of men think.

00:10:07.000 It's so force-fed.

00:10:08.000 I think the perception is that because of what gets then posted times 15 on social media after the appearance.

00:10:16.000 But if you look at the data of how much she was actually shown on camera at the games, it is so tiny.

00:10:22.000 It's like less than 1%.

00:10:23.000 It's not even half a 1%.

00:10:25.000 It's so small.

00:10:26.000 She has barely been shown.

00:10:27.000 That's the reality.

00:10:28.000 Okay, let me ask you a question.

00:10:29.000 She just reposted it. 1.00

00:10:30.000 I saw out of the nine hours of Chiefs' playoff game, she was on screen for 150 seconds, which is the same as Brock Purdy's family, Brittany Mahomes, Olivia Colpo, Christian McCauffery's family.

00:10:41.000 Like, that's what happens.

00:10:43.000 Is this week?

00:10:45.000 Are we talking more about the Super Bowl or more about Taylor Swift?

00:10:47.000 We're talking about Taylor.

00:10:48.000 Well, my timeline is, but that's because I'm in the conservative movement.

00:10:51.000 It's all freaking Taylor.

00:10:52.000 But it's just then you, and then as soon as we say anything, you can't say anything about the biggest person in the planet.

00:10:57.000 So just say anything.

00:11:00.000 I'm not even saying like it's not okay to dislike her.

00:11:03.000 Dislike her, fine.

00:11:04.000 It's the arguments that are being put forth about this all being a psyop to re-elect Biden or whatever.

00:11:09.000 It's just it's there's there's more evidence supporting the opposite of that, in my opinion.

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00:12:39.000 So if you go back to my older stuff on Taylor Swift, the one thing that I'll disagree with Alex on, I think she has this insane power.

00:12:46.000 And you say, oh, on the margins, I don't think it's marginal.

00:12:49.000 I've never seen a cultural phenomenon, especially in the modern era.

00:12:53.000 I think that if she did a selfie video and said, go vote for Biden, I think it could move millions of votes.

00:12:59.000 I don't think it could move millions.

00:13:02.000 I think it could move a few tens of thousands.

00:13:06.000 Maybe, maybe.

00:13:07.000 But remember, she has endorsed political candidates since 2018.

00:13:12.000 Any celebrity making big political statements, which they do all the time, it never impacts voters that much.

00:13:20.000 I think if anyone, I've never seen anything like Taylor.

00:13:23.000 It's like a quasi-religious figure.

00:13:25.000 I'm actually complimenting your thing.

00:13:29.000 Like, I'm actually playing, I'm actually, I think you're underestimating her political power.

00:13:34.000 And let me tell you why.

00:13:35.000 With Roe being repealed, she spoke out on pro-abortion stuff, right?

00:13:39.000 Okay.

00:13:40.000 And she, I mean, I've never seen people fill up arenas like her, right? 0.97

00:13:44.000 The eras to her.

00:13:45.000 That's why it's comparable to like Michael Jackson, the Beatles.

00:13:45.000 I mean, like.

00:13:47.000 Oh, I think it's bigger than Michael Jackson.

00:13:49.000 I actually think the era of mass mail and voting.

00:13:51.000 I think she's waiting to make an endorsement. 0.96

00:13:53.000 I think she will make an endorsement because she has in the past.

00:13:56.000 And I think, I don't even think that it's going to be Biden because I'm completely convinced that it's going to be Newsom or Michelle.

00:14:02.000 And when one of them is in the mix, that's who I think Taylor would endorse over Biden.

00:14:07.000 Yeah, I think she's more likely to make an endorsement for one of them over Biden.

00:14:10.000 Yeah.

00:14:11.000 Okay.

00:14:11.000 So we would be screwed because they're more likable or either of those people are more likable in culture.

00:14:18.000 So, but if it is Biden, do you think that she really remains silent? 0.95

00:14:22.000 I mean, I just won't remain silent because she hates Trump.

00:14:25.000 And now we have mobilized her.

00:14:27.000 Hold on a second.

00:14:27.000 Alex, I got to play devil's advocate.

00:14:29.000 And if you were to say that we didn't say a thing about Taylor Swift, if we were just Taylor Swift silent, do you think she really would have sat out this next election?

00:14:38.000 No, she won't sit out, but she's not going to go as hard as now I think she's going to go, whether that is record-breaking political donations behind the scenes to get things done or, yeah, making a selfie video or whatever.

00:14:51.000 Now she has more incentive because of how she's being treated by conservative movements. 1.00

00:14:55.000 How is she being treated?

00:14:57.000 Horribly.

00:14:58.000 Okay, for no reason.

00:15:00.000 What do you mean, horribly?

00:15:01.000 Saying that she hasn't had any children and can't keep a stable relationship and poorly chooses men. 0.62

00:15:07.000 I mean, she's the most popular figure in the West. 0.97

00:15:10.000 I get treated worse than that.

00:15:12.000 But that's different than talking about her body count, calling her ugly, calling her fans ugly, like saying these.

00:15:18.000 Then it's the conservative men money that hate her and they think she's ruining football when really she's ruining football. 0.67

00:15:24.000 But that's what other people are saying.

00:15:26.000 I know it's annoying to you, but that's what other people are saying.

00:15:29.000 And they're mobilizing people to hate MAGA more than they are mobilizing people.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, so this plays into the idea.

00:15:35.000 And again, op can mean many different things.

00:15:37.000 It plays into this.

00:15:38.000 It's like, do not criticize her.

00:15:42.000 And since you're criticizing her, then she's going to become like this. 0.98

00:15:46.000 No, I'm saying you can criticize Taylor Swift if you get your facts right.

00:15:49.000 What I'm seeing on the right is the evidence that this is some kind of psyop to re-elect Biden is that George Soros is controlling Taylor because he bought her music.

00:15:59.000 And then therefore he told her, Well, now you have to date Travis Kelsey so you can shill the vaccine.

00:16:03.000 And then you, and then we're going to make sure he gets to the Super Bowl.

00:16:06.000 All of this is incorrect.

00:16:07.000 And let me explain why.

00:16:09.000 George Soros does not control Taylor Swift.

00:16:13.000 Taylor Swift made one of the most public FUs to George Soros ever in 2019 on stage in a speech.

00:16:20.000 She called George Soros out for buying her music.

00:16:23.000 And because she wanted to say, F you, you don't control me.

00:16:26.000 I want to get you back.

00:16:28.000 That is why she has spent the last couple years re-recording all of her albums and re-releasing them and doing huge marketing campaigns to push those re-released albums so that she can take away from the Soros Foundation and the others who helped buy her masters from her.

00:16:44.000 She is pissed about that.

00:16:45.000 Now, where Taylor Swift is wrong is that she hasn't connected the dots in that the political party that I'm supporting is all controlled by that man.

00:16:54.000 So she is it half right.

00:16:56.000 And instead of telling her, as conservatives, hey, you are so close to getting this and encouraging her to keep on seeing this through, we're all just piling on her, which is going to make her gravitate towards the Democrats more.

00:17:11.000 She is so close to realizing this.

00:17:13.000 The real psyop is that.

00:17:16.000 But she is close in that she does hate the Soros family for what they did to her.

00:17:20.000 So if you were to do your best job, why do you think, why do you think right-wing men don't like Taylor?

00:17:27.000 Because without saying sexists or anything.

00:17:30.000 I'll tell you, because I like Elon Musk a lot, but he has incentivized people to post clickbait things and you get paid for it.

00:17:37.000 And so everybody is jumping on this bandwagon of let's tweet about the biggest star in the world to get engagement.

00:17:42.000 I get a paycheck for it.

00:17:43.000 What do you think it is, Daisy?

00:17:44.000 20.

00:17:45.000 Taylor Swift is more emotional because she's a woman. 0.97

00:17:47.000 Women are more emotional than men.

00:17:48.000 Men are more logical.

00:17:49.000 My husband doesn't listen to Taylor Swift.

00:17:50.000 I don't expect him to listen to Taylor Swift.

00:17:52.000 Taylor Swift is the kind of music that I would like.

00:17:54.000 Men think it's annoying when women are highly emotional.

00:17:57.000 Okay.

00:17:58.000 We just, I could see it right now.

00:18:00.000 Again, I think Alex is underestimating it.

00:18:03.000 If Taylor Swift does like that legendary selfie video and she says, show these MAGA people, fill out your ballot.

00:18:09.000 I think that is a political thermonuclear weapon.

00:18:11.000 I actually don't underestimate her.

00:18:13.000 I think that she could decide the election. 1.00

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00:19:22.000 All right, I'm in a no-win situation here.

00:19:24.000 So I say, you know, Taylor Swift could decide the election.

00:19:26.000 No, don't say that.

00:19:28.000 Of course you, or you say, okay, actually, you know, she doesn't have that much power. 1.00

00:19:31.000 How dare you don't give the.

00:19:32.000 It meant a no-win situation, Alex.

00:19:34.000 It's both ways.

00:19:34.000 Not from us.

00:19:35.000 No, not you.

00:19:36.000 I'm just saying.

00:19:36.000 It's just, you can't.

00:19:38.000 Here's the reality of it, is that she's incredibly popular, and that if she decides to speak up and really lean in, that's going to be a problem for Republicans. 0.68

00:19:46.000 Your both theory is that there is a history of potential.

00:19:50.000 I don't want to use the word pettiness or vengeful type attitude.

00:19:55.000 I'll say that.

00:19:56.000 Taylor herself is very forthcoming.

00:19:57.000 There's nothing she knows better than revenge.

00:19:59.000 I mean, she has a song about that.

00:20:04.000 She will bite back harder. 0.94

00:20:05.000 All right, so let me bite her. 1.00

00:20:07.000 Okay, so if, if, if, you know, she comes out and she does like the all-out 10 out of 10.

00:20:14.000 I mean, when was the last time she did 10 out of 10 for her new albums, right?

00:20:17.000 Wait, just in promo in general or for politics?

00:20:20.000 No, forget politics.

00:20:21.000 She's never gone 10 out of 10 with politics.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, Taylor's version released.

00:20:25.000 When was that?

00:20:26.000 October.

00:20:27.000 Okay.

00:20:27.000 That's when she just changed her Instagram picture.

00:20:31.000 Yeah, she does that for each album. 1.00

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 Okay.

00:20:32.000 And it whistled out in like 45 seconds or something.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, but music, listening to music is also way different than voting.

00:20:39.000 Yeah, but you know, with mass mail and voting and a lot of ballots on people's counters, it just, it's less of an S.

00:20:45.000 No, but this is my argument.

00:20:46.000 It's been my argument the entire time, you know, when we've been talking about this behind the scenes and such, is that I do think she will have an impact on the 2024 election, but I think it's less about Taylor Swift and more about hating Trump, hating MAGA, hating Republicans.

00:21:00.000 Those are the kind of people that those people do enjoy her music.

00:21:03.000 And because they already are trained and thought to hate Trump and hate everything he stands for, they think he's horrible. 0.94

00:21:09.000 They think he's sexist, think he's a womanizer, all this stuff. 0.93

00:21:12.000 That is what's going to make him vote against them.

00:21:14.000 That's fair.

00:21:15.000 Okay, so then I should just not mention it ever again.

00:21:18.000 I wouldn't.

00:21:20.000 Now, unless Taylor Swift comes out and says, Charlie Kirk, and she called you out.

00:21:25.000 I've been so scared that that's going to happen.

00:21:26.000 I know.

00:21:28.000 I think it would be hilarious.

00:21:29.000 Who knows?

00:21:30.000 That would be hilarious.

00:21:32.000 So it's okay.

00:21:32.000 MLK, fine.

00:21:33.000 Taylor Swift, no. 0.97

00:21:35.000 I think anyone can talk about her.

00:21:37.000 Like I said, my husband does not like Taylor Swift.

00:21:39.000 I don't expect men to like Taylor Swift.

00:21:41.000 No, I'm receiving your coaching.

00:21:42.000 So I think it's totally fine for you to say.

00:21:45.000 And obviously, you're going to say whatever you want.

00:21:46.000 You're Charlie Kirk.

00:21:47.000 He's going to say it.

00:21:48.000 No, no, but I just not that overly.

00:21:50.000 You don't like Taylor Swift.

00:21:52.000 You don't listen to her music.

00:21:52.000 You don't align with her values.

00:21:54.000 All of that is true.

00:21:55.000 Like, I don't align with her values.

00:21:56.000 I love her music.

00:21:57.000 So that's why I would talk to her.

00:21:58.000 She's extremely family-oriented.

00:21:59.000 She is modest.

00:22:02.000 I mean, by comparison, largely compared to any other famous pop star.

00:22:06.000 She is in a committed, heterosexual relationship.

00:22:09.000 She could be out on the Super Bowl field with a they, them furry. 0.93

00:22:11.000 We should be grateful.

00:22:13.000 This is yours.

00:22:14.000 She has, I mean, Travis Kelsey, say what you want about him.

00:22:17.000 And I know you don't like him for other reasons besides the Taylor stuff.

00:22:20.000 You just think he is a bad character in general.

00:22:21.000 Maybe.

00:22:22.000 Not a great reputation.

00:22:23.000 Maybe.

00:22:23.000 But also comparing him to her exes, he is way better.

00:22:28.000 She is a liberal.

00:22:29.000 She's going to date a liberal.

00:22:30.000 She's always dating these like beta males that are shorter than her.

00:22:33.000 This is the first time.

00:22:34.000 She looks tiny in comparison to Charles.

00:22:36.000 He is a manly.

00:22:37.000 She's like 5'10.

00:22:38.000 Whether or not he is truly a good guy, like his heart is good.

00:22:42.000 He is a manly man.

00:22:43.000 That's at least a win.

00:22:44.000 I don't know if his heart's very good.

00:22:46.000 Well, that's true. 0.90

00:22:47.000 He may drop dead.

00:22:49.000 But he is a manly man comparatively compared to her exes.

00:22:54.000 She is extremely generous.

00:22:56.000 We're always hearing about how she is over-tipping, how she's paying out her truck drivers. 1.00

00:23:00.000 I'll say something nice.

00:23:01.000 You want me to say something nice?

00:23:03.000 It could be a total fake, but I said to myself, the amount of games she showed up to, it's actually, maybe it's totally fake. 0.81

00:23:12.000 Considering how much women hate football typically, I said that I have a little bit of respect for that because if I had to show up to 13 Taylor Swift concerts. 0.79

00:23:22.000 And he also went, he went international for her Argentina show.

00:23:26.000 He flew out there to watch her.

00:23:27.000 But this is also.

00:23:28.000 No, I'm not even being sarcastic.

00:23:29.000 After like the 12th, I said, okay, maybe she's showing up to like four or five games.

00:23:33.000 It was like 13 weeks in a row she was showing.

00:23:35.000 And this is like a much less significant factor in what we're talking about.

00:23:39.000 But I do think it's worth it to say the amount of videos and content I see of dads and daughters watching football together for the first time.

00:23:45.000 Awesome.

00:23:46.000 This is the first time they have something to talk about with their dad sports related.

00:23:49.000 It's so sweet.

00:23:50.000 That's a win for conservatives.

00:23:51.000 Bringing families together, father-daughter relationships, bringing them together.

00:23:54.000 That's a win.

00:23:55.000 So, everybody, this will be the most watched Super Bowl ever.

00:23:58.000 Yes.

00:23:58.000 And I'm going to, we're going to lock myself out of my Twitter account.

00:24:02.000 I have a tendency during the Super Bowl to tweet awesome stuff.

00:24:06.000 Okay.

00:24:07.000 Yes.

00:24:08.000 Whatever.

00:24:09.000 Alex, you've gone on the show before, right?

00:24:11.000 I have.

00:24:11.000 I have met on the whatever podcast.

00:24:13.000 Yeah.

00:24:15.000 I can't remember.

00:24:16.000 You didn't love it, right?

00:24:18.000 I didn't love it.

00:24:20.000 It was a very dark and oppressive environment for me personally.

00:24:23.000 Like, I cried after.

00:24:25.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:26.000 It was just, it's people living that lifestyle.

00:24:29.000 I mean, you experienced it.

00:24:30.000 It's very heavy on your heart.

00:24:32.000 It's very heavy.

00:24:33.000 If you are a Christian and you go in that environment and you just see how sin is destroying people's lives, it is really hard for you to like hold that emotionally, I think.

00:24:43.000 I totally agree.

00:24:44.000 Yeah.

00:24:45.000 Yeah.

00:24:45.000 So can you, you could do a better job than I can.

00:24:48.000 Can you explain what whatever is to the uninitiated in our audience?

00:24:51.000 And I want to play some pieces of tape.

00:24:52.000 It's a dating podcast.

00:24:54.000 There's a male host.

00:24:56.000 Typically, they bring on women that work in the adult entertainment industry, whether on OnlyFans or otherwise, you know, feminists, liberals. 0.96

00:25:05.000 And then they bring on, usually they try to find some a trad wife or two, a couple conservatives or whatever to kind of debate those women. 1.00

00:25:14.000 And the whole premise is really, I mean, if you're asking me, the whole premise is to expose how terrible dating culture is today, how there's no good women anymore.

00:25:24.000 And I think incentivize or validate a lot of men who feel like the dating atmosphere is hopeless.

00:25:33.000 That's so interesting.

00:25:33.000 So first of all, in my particular episode, they were actually, and I don't say this just from the OnlyFans, they were actually two like porn people, right, Daisy?

00:25:41.000 And after you left, they were talking about how they were in town for some sort of porn awards that they were.

00:25:46.000 Yeah, so I said this recently and someone said, don't call OnlyFan people porn people, which I actually think they are, but this is not even OnlyFan people.

00:25:52.000 These are like actual pictures of them at Pornhub HQ on their Instagram.

00:25:57.000 So like on the panel with me.

00:26:00.000 And first of all, just you're in, it's a really smart point, Alex.

00:26:03.000 The audience that watches this program is like 90% male.

00:26:07.000 And they buy the porn.

00:26:10.000 So it's a so here's the thing. 0.97

00:26:12.000 It's a humiliation ritual.

00:26:14.000 This is why this whole, the whole like audience, the atmosphere is so corrupt to me and so depressing to me.

00:26:20.000 The men love to bring these women on and they will spend hundreds of dollars a night every time the show airs in super chats degrading the women, right? 1.00

00:26:29.000 You experienced it, calling them out for their degenerate.

00:26:31.000 It's a speech thing that pops up while you're on the show.

00:26:33.000 So they pay to call these women out. 1.00

00:26:35.000 They spend hundreds of dollars to call these women out. 1.00

00:26:37.000 Then these women, after doing the show, they always say, oh, my, my views shot up in my videos. 1.00

00:26:44.000 You know, the amount of people paying for my adult content shot up.

00:26:47.000 It's from that audience. 0.95

00:26:49.000 So they feel this internal struggle of, well, I want to pay to watch this content, but like maybe I'm doing something good if I can call her a whore while I do it. 0.94

00:26:58.000 It's this whole like really backwards philosophy. 0.94

00:27:01.000 Yes.

00:27:02.000 So there's a lot of truth to that.

00:27:04.000 So first of all, like some people in the comments section on Instagram, they all knew the girl that was sitting next to me.

00:27:12.000 Some of them were.

00:27:13.000 Yeah, they were posting about how they went to high school with her, how they went to middle school with her.

00:27:18.000 And then people knew her from online as well.

00:27:20.000 Yeah, online.

00:27:21.000 And so I was reading the comments on Instagram.

00:27:22.000 Like these men are like, oh, that's Molly.

00:27:24.000 Like, I know who that is.

00:27:25.000 I think she's like 19 or 20, honestly.

00:27:27.000 And she's in like the most graphic genres of pornography that a human being can be in. 1.00

00:27:32.000 And so the audience is predominantly male who like hate watch, but also it's like a very strange thing.

00:27:38.000 Anyway, so but I thought the conversation went well.

00:27:41.000 Would you say that, Alex?

00:27:43.000 I was genuinely so impressed with you and so proud of you.

00:27:47.000 I was very worried.

00:27:48.000 I was very worried about you going into that situation because the optics of that, I just, it can easily go wrong.

00:27:56.000 Were you cringing before you were just like getting ready to cringe?

00:27:59.000 I was getting ready to cringe.

00:28:00.000 Obviously, I would agree with whatever you say, but just knowing how these women think, if you are too harsh or you're too, there's a way to be direct, but still compassionate and kind and show Christ's love. 1.00

00:28:15.000 And I think you did a perfect, you spoke truth and light, which can be, it can be easy to go the opposite route on that show and just call them out and be, you know, tell them how horrible they are.

00:28:25.000 And they have. 0.87

00:28:25.000 And we were talking about it before, like in prep when he was going on, like these women are trained to hate you. 0.87

00:28:31.000 They're ready to go on the defense. 1.00

00:28:33.000 So that's why you have to be calm or else they're not going to listen.

00:28:36.000 Because they're caught off, I think they were caught off guard by how compassionate you were towards them.

00:28:41.000 And I think that when you, the whole moment of you talking about how like I am so happy to have a wife and a daughter and I hope all of you can experience that one day, like marriage and kids.

00:28:50.000 And then immediately that girl was on the defense, like, what is that supposed to mean?

00:28:54.000 You're like, it was like five years ago.

00:28:55.000 It was the nicest thing.

00:28:56.000 Are you saying that we can't get married and have kids?

00:28:58.000 Yeah.

00:28:59.000 But the way you asked the questions and you put it on them and you were like, why do you think that makes you defensive?

00:29:05.000 And stuff, do you feel like your industry is conducive to being a wife and a mother, being a good wife and a mother, you know, and making them think, but you said it in a kind way. 0.94

00:29:13.000 Now, you could have easily said, like, because you're a hoe, you're never going to be a good wife or mom. 1.00

00:29:17.000 You know, that wouldn't have gone over well with changing their mind.

00:29:20.000 But I guarantee, I would bet money that some of those girls left, not all of them for sure, but at least one or two left and they really did think about what you were saying.

00:29:29.000 And I, it's, I will totally agree, Alex.

00:29:32.000 I left sad, and that was kind of my tone.

00:29:35.000 I was just trying to process the I was so sad.

00:29:39.000 I was depressed for like 48 hours.

00:29:41.000 Well, yeah, because I mean, I've never met someone who actively gets awards for making pornography.

00:29:46.000 Like, so I would expect some sort of, I don't know, maybe just remorse or just like embarrassment.

00:29:51.000 And I'll be honest, I think that the young Asian girl, which I didn't like, they were trying to pick on her.

00:29:55.000 Poor girl. 1.00

00:29:56.000 The family girl, I didn't like that whole thing.

00:29:58.000 They were trying to make some clip out of her and something. 1.00

00:30:00.000 I didn't like any of that.

00:30:01.000 And she's obviously, you know, not in the mensa society.

00:30:06.000 But no, but I mean, I mean that in the nicest way.

00:30:10.000 And she, she's sitting there, poor girl.

00:30:14.000 And she's, you know, listen to everything we're saying.

00:30:16.000 And she's trying to really follow along.

00:30:17.000 And she's, you know, and she was the one where they said, hey, why do you do OnlyFans?

00:30:22.000 She's like, well, I provide for my family and all this.

00:30:24.000 And the other two, I just think they get some sort of weird like thrill out of it, right?

00:30:30.000 But anyway, I just, that individual, I really felt some compassion for.

00:30:36.000 I think she should stop doing what she's doing. 1.00

00:30:39.000 But what I was just met with is just like the unapologetic ferocity.

00:30:43.000 It's like, yes, I do porn and I would keep doing it.

00:30:46.000 In fact, I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:30:47.000 Let's play Cut 65.

00:30:49.000 I asked the hypothetical question: if you made a million dollars a year, would you stop making pornography?

00:30:53.000 Play cut 65.

00:30:54.000 If you could be with your boyfriend currently and I waved a magic wand and I said you can make a million dollars a year and never do porn again, would you? 0.78

00:31:01.000 No.

00:31:03.000 Okay.

00:31:03.000 He's used the wand.

00:31:04.000 You can make a million dollars a year.

00:31:06.000 You don't have to do the adult content.

00:31:09.000 Well, the thing is, I wouldn't have to do it.

00:31:11.000 That would be great, but I would still want to do it.

00:31:14.000 I mean, personally, like, I'm an exhibitionist.

00:31:16.000 I love putting my sexual self out there for other people to see, for other people to like, you know, touch themselves to, have fun with.

00:31:24.000 I love it.

00:31:25.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:31:27.000 Since you're about presenting yourself to the world, do you have a good relationship with your father?

00:31:34.000 Here we go.

00:31:35.000 No, I don't talk to him.

00:31:38.000 I'm not surprised.

00:31:39.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 There you have it.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, that's really sad.

00:31:43.000 I also feel like they have to be like that, or else they're going to be embarrassed.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, I know for sure.

00:31:47.000 It's a cope.

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00:33:03.000 Daisy, do you have social media so everyone can get behind what you're doing?

00:33:05.000 Yeah, everyone go follow Charlie Kirk 1776.

00:33:09.000 What a good subscribe to the channel.

00:33:10.000 By the way, how many videos, million plus we have in a row?

00:33:12.000 We're at, I think, 140 videos with over a million views in a row.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, me and Emma Kate have had a lot of fun.

00:33:20.000 We love working on the Charlie Kirk show. 0.64

00:33:21.000 Emma's also a Swifty. 1.00

00:33:22.000 Yes. 0.97

00:33:23.000 Emma, are you proud of how nice I've been?

00:33:25.000 She's proud of me.

00:33:26.000 She's giving a thumbs up.

00:33:26.000 Yeah, she's texting me.

00:33:27.000 She's proud.

00:33:28.000 She's very proud of me.

00:33:29.000 Yes, but yeah.

00:33:29.000 Follow the Charlie Kirk show.

00:33:31.000 She said, very proud.

00:33:31.000 I receive coaching.

00:33:33.000 I really do.

00:33:34.000 Alex, you said something super smart.

00:33:36.000 I think you're totally onto something. 0.68

00:33:37.000 I want you to riff on RFK conservative women. 1.00

00:33:40.000 I really wish that we would be talking more about the RFK threat to the election than the Taylor Swift threat.

00:33:48.000 Because he's actually going to be on the ballot.

00:33:49.000 He's actually going to be on the ballot.

00:33:51.000 And so one unique thing is I really work with the female side of Turning Point USA. 0.78

00:33:59.000 I have a podcast that has very successful.

00:34:02.000 It does really well.

00:34:03.000 Oh, thank you.

00:34:04.000 A large millennial female following.

00:34:08.000 And I'm friends with Allie Stuckey and she does too.

00:34:12.000 And we're both, we've talked about this.

00:34:13.000 We're seeing the same thing with our podcast audiences.

00:34:16.000 I am fielding questions every day.

00:34:19.000 Hey, Alex, can you explain to me like why RFK is that bad compared to Trump?

00:34:25.000 I'm just unsure.

00:34:26.000 Or what do we really think about RFK?

00:34:28.000 I really have some questions.

00:34:29.000 They are into him.

00:34:32.000 They like him.

00:34:33.000 They are still turned off.

00:34:35.000 Female suburban voters are still turned off by Trump's personality.

00:34:39.000 He has done nothing to rectify it.

00:34:40.000 And I like Trump.

00:34:43.000 But this is a bigger problem than I feel like anyone is taking seriously.

00:34:48.000 I'm going to say this on air.

00:34:49.000 I'm going to try to put together, and you would come.

00:34:51.000 If I said, Mr. President, you have to meet with these 10 women, and you would give him a piece of advice, right?

00:34:58.000 Oh, I would love that.

00:34:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:35:00.000 He's a great listener, more so than people realize.

00:35:02.000 I think he is a good listener.

00:35:02.000 He's a great listener.

00:35:04.000 And so the RFK thing, is this kind of the medical freedom movement that has, do you think so, Daisy?

00:35:11.000 Yeah.

00:35:12.000 And when he came in and we did the interview with him, he was wonderful, so nice to everyone.

00:35:17.000 So sweet.

00:35:18.000 But when I was really listening and going back and we were clipping the interview and all that, I think everyone in the conservative movement really loves and agrees and uplifts his vaccine policy and agrees with him.

00:35:29.000 But then when I was listening to his other answers, I was like, well, I don't agree with any of these other things.

00:35:33.000 No, he's a gentleman, but he's a Massachusetts liberal.

00:35:35.000 Are these like the essential oil moms? 1.00

00:35:37.000 Is that what we're talking about here?

00:35:38.000 I mean that non-pejoratively.

00:35:39.000 Are these the people that tend to not do every vaccine?

00:35:42.000 These are people that...

00:35:44.000 That person is, this is the misconception.

00:35:47.000 The essential oil mom thing died in 2020 during the pandemic.

00:35:51.000 Now everyone is an essential oil mom. 0.99

00:35:53.000 This is a value of basically every single independent or conservative voter is the medical freedom, fixing our food.

00:36:01.000 I mean, this is something I'm so passionate about.

00:36:03.000 You're singing my language.

00:36:04.000 This is what everybody is concerned.

00:36:07.000 Female conservative voters want to know why Trump has not apologized for Operation Warp Speed, why he has doubled down, why he's doubled down on it.

00:36:17.000 They want, if they were to hear from his lips, that was a mistake.

00:36:21.000 I wish I wouldn't have pushed that going forward.

00:36:23.000 I'm going to work with people like RFK to get opinions on how we can, you know, right these wrongs, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:29.000 That's what we need to hear from Trump.

00:36:30.000 That's what these millennial conservative voters, female voters need to hear from Trump. 1.00

00:36:35.000 So that's a concern.

00:36:36.000 They're concerned about his remarks that were very different than what he's previously made in the past about abortion.

00:36:42.000 They didn't like that.

00:36:44.000 And he refused to define a man and a woman or whatever that trans conversation was.

00:36:50.000 So those are the three things that I'm hearing over and over and over again.

00:36:54.000 Daisy, do you want to add on to that?

00:36:55.000 Yeah, I think kind of like what you were saying about suburban moms earlier, I think that they're very conflict averse. 0.92

00:37:02.000 They don't want to be supporting or around someone, even in their own lives, because like we were talking about, men are very macro, women are very micro.

00:37:08.000 In their personal lives, they don't want to be around people that are combative and just really, really conflict forward.

00:37:15.000 And that is Trump.

00:37:16.000 And so they don't always look at policy.

00:37:17.000 They look at relationship and they don't love his relationship efforts, which usually provide a lot of conflict.

00:37:24.000 And so they're not looking at his policies.

00:37:26.000 They're looking at, oh, RFK's really nice.

00:37:28.000 Oh, Biden's really nice.

00:37:29.000 That's what they're thinking.

00:37:30.000 It is because of this strange, interesting discourse that I'm seeing that I am very torn on who Trump should ask to be VP.

00:37:38.000 Who do you think it should be?

00:37:39.000 I'm leaning towards RFK, and I love Vivek.

00:37:42.000 Love.

00:37:44.000 I really like him.

00:37:45.000 Alex, if Trump were to not be president, he's a liberal.

00:37:51.000 I know.

00:37:52.000 That's the frustrating thing.

00:37:54.000 But I'm thinking about winning.

00:37:56.000 I am thinking about winning. 0.78

00:37:57.000 And I am concerned about these independent voters and the moms, the women that can't get on board with Trump. 0.78

00:38:03.000 They like him, though.

00:38:04.000 And so we can grab them.

00:38:06.000 So the RFK thing is a picture and a window into kind of Trump, not fatigue, but skepticism.

00:38:16.000 Skepticism, disappointment.

00:38:18.000 They don't understand why we're being hammered about how the election is rigged.

00:38:21.000 But then it's like, okay, well, if it's rigged, how are we going to win?

00:38:25.000 It's just like this, it's very confusing for us as female voters on the right who have voted for Trump, you know, and both of them.

00:38:34.000 And you're going to vote for Trump.

00:38:36.000 Of course.

00:38:36.000 Okay, good.

00:38:37.000 But I'm torn on who should be the VP.

00:38:40.000 You got to lead your audience.

00:38:41.000 Your audience trusts you. 1.00

00:38:43.000 And Daisy, would you say some female or women voters view Trump as a jerk? 1.00

00:38:49.000 Oh, yes. 1.00

00:38:49.000 Yes, for sure. 1.00

00:38:50.000 And that's not my word.

00:38:51.000 It goes back to what we were saying in the first couple of segments, where it's like these women that are growing up, they're in high school, they're in college, this is all they're seeing on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook is to hate Trump. 0.96

00:39:03.000 He's horrible. 0.99

00:39:04.000 He hates women. 1.00

00:39:05.000 And that's why they are more likely to vote anti-Trump than they are to vote pro-Taylor Swift. 0.80

00:39:10.000 You know what I would say if I was some kind of like little mouse in the background of Trump's campaign, what my advice would be?

00:39:16.000 Little mouse.

00:39:17.000 Little mouse, if I was a Trump mouse, I would say to them, We need to get some seems like a paparazzi pick or nondescript pick of somebody else in the restaurant.

00:39:28.000 We need some pictures or videos of Trump and Melania on a date, date night.

00:39:33.000 We need more Melania content.

00:39:35.000 I want to see him as a doting husband, a doting father, maybe him and Baron and Melania out on a little yacht doing a boat day.

00:39:43.000 These are the images.

00:39:44.000 It's just he's so separate apart from his family.

00:39:47.000 That type of imagery of him as a husband and father would help.

00:39:50.000 Now, RFK does a lot of that with Cheryl.

00:39:52.000 I think that's really good optics that we never get from Trump.

00:39:57.000 Even when he was in the White House, I always said, I wish we got more like him and Melania together.

00:40:01.000 Not just like political serious events, but I want to see them as a couple.

00:40:05.000 I want to hear about their marriage and their relationship.

00:40:07.000 That matters because I want to see how a husband is running his home and pouring into his marriage how he's going to lead the country as well.

00:40:16.000 I would agree with that.

00:40:17.000 Definitely.

00:40:18.000 And I think that people really do like the Trump family overall.

00:40:22.000 Like the kids are really close.

00:40:23.000 They all work together.

00:40:24.000 They're together all the time.

00:40:26.000 And so I think it would do really well for them.

00:40:28.000 I mean, the kids are always supporting their dad.

00:40:30.000 They love to talk about him.

00:40:32.000 They love to be with him.

00:40:33.000 And so I think to see the even the other day, they did the whole family photo at Melania's mom's memorial.

00:40:39.000 But it's too, it's too perfect.

00:40:41.000 It's too staged and perfect.

00:40:42.000 I want to see some candid moments of Trump with family.

00:40:46.000 So how about this?

00:40:46.000 Valentine's Day.

00:40:47.000 Valentine's Day is a family.

00:40:48.000 Yeah, yes.

00:40:49.000 Right?

00:40:50.000 If we get a Trump Day at Mar-a-Lago.

00:40:52.000 If we get a Trump and Melania cute, candid of Valentine's Day, like them doing something cute, like snuggling on the couch watching a movie or something, I want you all to remember that Alex Clark predicted and gave this advice.

00:41:03.000 I want like a very boomer selfie of the two of them.

00:41:05.000 Like he's kissing her cheek.

00:41:06.000 Yeah, it's a little blurry and out of the way.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, and it's so high up there looking up at the phone.

00:41:11.000 It would be so viral.

00:41:12.000 That's what they need.

00:41:14.000 Which is why, if we go back to the VP conversation, I do like Vivek because he's so viral.

00:41:19.000 All the time, he's so viral.

00:41:20.000 And he's a cute.

00:41:21.000 He's got cute family moments.

00:41:22.000 Great family.

00:41:23.000 Yes.

00:41:23.000 Who would be not a good VP pick?

00:41:26.000 Nikki Haley.

00:41:28.000 Okay, so let's.

00:41:29.000 I'm just going to ask the.

00:41:30.000 If the ticket is between Trump and Nikki versus RFK, I know I hear, I actually share some of your.

00:41:36.000 Yeah.

00:41:36.000 I'm not there yet, but I would have it.

00:41:37.000 I would be so, if he picked Nikki, I just can't.

00:41:42.000 I don't know if I could.

00:41:43.000 I would lose all trust.

00:41:44.000 I don't know if I could tell my audience to go vote.

00:41:48.000 I would lose all trust.

00:41:48.000 Well, it would go against everything we've been talking about.

00:41:50.000 Hold on.

00:41:51.000 But I'm told by certain people that Nikki Haley will win the female vote for Trump.

00:41:56.000 Not my affairs. 0.70

00:41:57.000 I think RFK is more likely to win the female vote for Trump. 1.00

00:41:59.000 Let me tell you something interesting.

00:42:00.000 I was just at a birthday dinner for a friend, and everyone at the dinner, besides one person I'd never met in my life, didn't know these women. 0.76

00:42:07.000 And it was a pretty large group of women, probably about 11. 1.00

00:42:10.000 And I asked all of them, hey, if you're planning on voting this year, who do you think right now you would vote for?

00:42:16.000 Every person at the table said Trump, RFK, or I'm not voting.

00:42:20.000 Not one Nikki Haley, not one Biden.

00:42:23.000 And what was the debt?

00:42:24.000 Was this Arizona?

00:42:25.000 Yes.

00:42:25.000 And was this like typical white girl gathering or was this?

00:42:28.000 I mean, that nicely, you know that. 0.83

00:42:29.000 No, there were some black women there and white. 1.00

00:42:32.000 That's amazing.

00:42:33.000 Yeah.

00:42:33.000 Okay.

00:42:33.000 So just like different backgrounds.

00:42:34.000 So this wasn't like Scott's Dale. 0.94

00:42:37.000 I think all 30s. 0.58

00:42:38.000 Everyone was in their 30s.

00:42:40.000 Millennial women. 0.99

00:42:41.000 Yes. 0.74

00:42:41.000 That's fast. 0.74

00:42:42.000 And it was Trump, RFK, or not voting.

00:42:44.000 So this is what I'm saying that I'm seeing.

00:42:46.000 And that they aren't, you know, I didn't even know these people.

00:42:48.000 So how many?

00:42:49.000 You said 10 people?

00:42:50.000 Probably 10 or 11. 0.78

00:42:51.000 That's more powerful than.

00:42:52.000 Well, how about you, Daisy?

00:42:52.000 You're in a different, little different demo.

00:42:54.000 What are your contemporaries saying?

00:42:57.000 I think Gen Z has a big problem with TikTok. 0.99

00:42:59.000 That's where they get all of their information from. 0.98

00:43:02.000 And even the other day, I saw a TikTok that was like, it's time that we have an attractive president again.

00:43:06.000 And it's all pictures of RFK.

00:43:08.000 Which, like, I don't want to find RFK that attractive.

00:43:10.000 He's hot.

00:43:11.000 I like.

00:43:12.000 He's hot.

00:43:12.000 I like Kennedy's.

00:43:14.000 I think I've heard a lot of sway.

00:43:18.000 This is how different men and women are.

00:43:19.000 But that's what Gen Z were, like, this TikTok was completely viral, and it was all these pictures of RFK. 0.52

00:43:24.000 Like shirtless and working out.

00:43:25.000 Yes, people loved him.

00:43:27.000 And I think if we even go back to the birth control conversation, so many people my age, myself included, like when I was in college, ditching birth control and like everything, we're thinking more about what's going into our bodies, what we're eating, what medicines we're taking, what vaccines we're taking, especially.

00:43:42.000 And so I think that if it's a female Republican and they are turned off by Trump, I think they would be more likely to vote for RFK than they would be for Nikki.

00:43:50.000 Can't Trump, couldn't he say that I want RFK in my cabinet to just be in charge of the health part?

00:43:54.000 100%.

00:43:55.000 That's what we should do.

00:43:55.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:43:56.000 I think that's health and human services.

00:43:57.000 There we go.

00:43:58.000 And that would probably, do you think that would satisfy some of the.

00:44:01.000 Yes.

00:44:02.000 If we, let's put Vivek VP, let's put RFK in charge of health and human services.

00:44:06.000 Do you think Vivek would help with your community?

00:44:10.000 They're not.

00:44:12.000 But they don't talk about it. 0.82

00:44:13.000 Gen Z men.

00:44:14.000 Gen Z boys love.

00:44:16.000 I mean, he's with the Paul brothers and they love him.

00:44:19.000 He's always going viral.

00:44:21.000 I think that's really smart.

00:44:22.000 It should just be like an Avengers moment of Republicans in office together. 0.99

00:44:28.000 If we don't do this, we're dumb. 0.99

00:44:29.000 I love the Valentine's Day idea. 0.98

00:44:31.000 What else do you think?

00:44:32.000 Tell them, please.

00:44:32.000 Send a little text, Charlie.

00:44:33.000 So if Trump gets together.

00:44:34.000 We can make like a viral campaign.

00:44:36.000 What other crazy ideas do you have for Trump?

00:44:37.000 Oh, my gosh. 0.89

00:44:39.000 Well, I crazy ideas.

00:44:43.000 I think just like him doing life moments, shopping.

00:44:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:47.000 Just like a normal person.

00:44:48.000 Less social media rants and more like he's driving in the car to go pick up Melania.

00:44:53.000 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 Picking up Aaron from school.

00:44:54.000 There was a video years ago that Melania took or something of them in the car playing Taylor stuck on the radio.

00:44:59.000 I mean, those are the things.

00:45:00.000 He's just driving.

00:45:01.000 Yes.

00:45:02.000 That's normal.

00:45:03.000 Do you know that Trump's, you know what Trump said recently?

00:45:05.000 He said they asked him, what's the worst part since he became president?

00:45:07.000 He says, I don't get to drive anymore.

00:45:09.000 There you go.

00:45:10.000 He's not president.

00:45:11.000 So we'll just get him in a car while he still can.

00:45:14.000 They follow him.

00:45:15.000 Yeah.

00:45:16.000 I love it.

00:45:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:45:18.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:45:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 01, 2024

The Taylor Swift Question and 2024

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