Raheem Kassam joins the program as we discuss the United Kingdom, and then, who exactly is Josh Shapiro? We dive into the radical background of Josh Shapiro, a trans- zealot. Meghan Brock joins us as always. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers and use promo code: "ELISSA" at checkout to receive 10% off your first month with discount code: FREEDOM10 at checkout. The Charlie Kirk Show is sponsored by Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investing at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegold.investors.com/thecharliekirkshow and start your account today! That is NobleGoldInvestments.co/TheCharlieKirkShow and you get 20% off the purchase of a Noble Gold Investor account! You can get 10% OFF the purchase price of an ounce of gold or a 1 ounce of silver or two ounces of silver at $1.00 at $1499.99.00. That's $10.00 or $20.00 worth of gold at $24.00, and a free gold membership at $19.99 or $49.99 worth of Silver or $99.95 worth of Bitcoin at the IRS.00? or $150,000 at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, $99, $24,000, or $35,000 or $50, or any other brokerage firm in the US, or a year, and free shipping at 2 years of shipping at 3 years of your choice. . You get 5% off of the sale of a gold and 1 month of your brokerage account, and 20% of your broker discount, plus a 3-day shipping at $99/month, and $5,000 shipping at 4 years, plus shipping at 5 years, and 2 years, they can get you an additional $5/month for a maximum of $24/day, plus 3 months of shipping, plus 2 months of a maximum shipping plan, and two years of free shipping, and 5 years of VIP discount, and all other options, plus an annual shipping and a broker will get a discount on your choice of $16/month.
00:00:48.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:01:48.000What's going on, Charlie, is the very, very predictable eventuality of decades and decades of uncontrolled mass migration coupled with a complete and utter, just, I would love to say, ignorance on behalf of the political class, but more like kind of a willful turning of the back of the political class on predominantly white working class neighborhoods where, you know, demographics have shifted so drastically over the last 20-30 years, integration and assimilation has not occurred, really not in any reasonable part, and where you've got now this bizarre situation
00:02:35.000Yes, some of the protests have turned ugly and violent and riotous.
00:02:40.000But people are protesting and being told, well, look, if you protest against this stuff, you know, you may end up in jail.
00:02:45.000And against the backdrop of all of that, of course, you've got conversations flowing all over the world about this stuff.
00:02:52.000Elon Musk has chimed into it, others as well.
00:02:55.000And it's causing quite the hassle for a brand new Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour Party, the far, far left.
00:03:03.000Labour Party that had just taken power and in amongst all of this he decided that he was going to announce that he was going on vacation having just been elected to office just last month so you can probably You can probably understand a lot of the anger out there.
00:03:19.000I certainly understand almost all of the anger out there, the visceral anger out there, which really started just about over a week ago when these three children were murdered outside of a dance studio in Southport in the northwest of England and The response from authorities, the response from police, the response from politicians was effectively, you know, we've heard this kind of memefied over the last, what, decade now, was the same that London's Mayor Sadiq Khan kind of said about terrorism just all those years ago.
00:03:57.000He said it's part and parcel Part and parcel of living in a major city and unfortunately for him, for Sir Keir Starmer, for the Labour Party, for the proponents of mass migration, the British public are not willing to sit by and allow it to be part and parcel of their day-to-day lives, certainly not be part and parcel of their children's day-to-day
00:04:16.000The risks of getting stabbed and murdered outside a dance studio in Southport, of all places, should be zero.
00:04:26.000But in fact, it has been shown time and time again, and whether you take into account, you know, the Ariana Grande concert where that bombing occurred, whether you look at what's been going on in France, the churches burning down, you know, Europeans now especially, especially, Working-class Europeans whose fathers and forefathers built those nations with their bare hands, in many cases, are waking up to this and going, no more, it cannot keep happening.
00:04:58.000And you set that, Charlie, against the backdrop of mass migration being, oh, about a million people into the United Kingdom every year right now.
00:05:07.000Remember, it's a country of about 65 million people.
00:05:11.000You take into account the fact that so many of these situations that you see across towns and cities, in England especially, are coming from neighbourhoods that have vast Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Muslim populations that really dominate culturally and assert themselves very dominantly politically as well.
00:05:34.000I've written two books about this now, No-Go Zones back in 2017, which looked at the proliferation We've got it up at the National Pulse as well of that happening here in the U.S.
00:05:50.000Liberals accepting now that in Hamtramck in Michigan, the Muslim populations, Bangladeshi, Yemeni Muslim populations are rigging votes and rigging elections.
00:06:02.000And then I did a second one called Enoch was right.
00:06:04.000And that was about Enoch Powell, who was a British parliamentarian from the 50s and 60s.
00:06:10.000And he said, look, if we do not bring mass migration under control, if we do not force integration upon a small number of people that we are willing to welcome in to the country, then you will have, and the terminology he used was rivers of blood, it was from Virgil's Aeneid.
00:06:30.000He wasn't being literal, but unfortunately, literally, we have started to see that now in my country.
00:06:36.000And I know there's so much there, there's so much to unpack, Charlie, but really, the bottom line of all of this, and I know so much of your audience will know this, Eminently predictable and the response from the globalist left in Downing Street and in Westminster has been typically disgusting
00:06:58.000This is how you kill a civilized society.
00:07:00.000And so explain to me, as an outsider to British politics, when labor went from a organization that would try to defend the middle class in Britain to a neoliberal one to open up borders.
00:07:21.000Yeah, look, in a lot of ways, in 1997, when Tony Blair took office, he came to power as kind of this third-way politician, really inheriting the baton from Bill Clinton in that regard.
00:07:37.000Running on this kind of, there is no left, there is no right, we're all centrists now, we're all moderates now, we'll take a little bit from there, a little bit from the other.
00:07:45.000And really, you know, pulling the wool over the public's eyes because what they were really describing is unipartyhood, is globalism.
00:07:53.000And a lot of people kind of welcomed this because they were tired in a post-war and post-Cold War world of the swings back and forth politically, and especially in the United Kingdom when you had I mean, what a day to be talking about it today, but you had that massive market crash in 1992, which was really pushed upon Britain by none other than George Soros.
00:08:18.000It put my family into bankruptcy, by the way.
00:08:20.000I have a direct gripe to have with Soros and his family, by the way, and that is an axe I will never stop grinding.
00:08:30.000One of his critical policies was open borders.
00:08:35.000He said, look, you know, we're moving into the new millennium, we have to have a new approach to the way we deal with the world, a new approach to the way we deal with Europe and the European Union.
00:08:44.000And of course, at the time, fantastical ideas were floating out there about, you know, a United States of Europe, a united European army, and this kind of I would say forward-looking because that's how they described it, right?
00:08:59.000But this hyper-progressive, hyper-globalist Tony Blair and his cabinet, they decided that the way to really squash The, you know, what they perceive to be the dying embers of political conservatism in the United Kingdom.
00:09:17.000And it really, I mean, they were right to think of it like that, Charlie, because people will remember John Major after Margaret Thatcher, the complete fecklessness of the Tory party, the Conservative Party in England.
00:09:28.000So they decided that the way to really stomp all of this out It was mass uncontrolled migration.
00:09:34.000One of Tony Blair's own speechwriters, I think, at the time said, we will need to open the borders to rub the right's noses in diversity.
00:09:43.000Well, the right is now rubbing the Labour Party's nose right back in that same diversity.
00:09:48.000Because, as you say, the Labour Party used to be the party of the working class, not even the middle class, the working class.
00:09:54.000That was another thing that Blair had changed, by the way, which was really trying to shift Hey, this is Charlie Kirk, and I know a lot of you have been suffering under the Biden economy.
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00:11:27.000So Raheem, I just want to get one more thought on the United Kingdom here, and then we'll go to my homeland, America, and a country I know you have a great heart for and work for, TheNationalPulse.com.
00:11:38.000What lesson can we learn from the UK and bring here to our immediate political reality in the States?
00:11:49.000I hate to put it in such drastic terms, but the best part of President Trump that I ever saw was when he was advocating for the travel ban.
00:11:58.000He said, we have to figure out what the heck is going on here.
00:12:06.000We're mass importing people of, you know, They're not sending their best, let's put it that way.
00:12:14.000Barbaric types who have zero fealty towards the countries that they are being mass imported into.
00:12:24.000Overarching impetus for immigration, the corporate impetus for immigration, is really no longer there.
00:12:30.000When you look at the Bank of England, at least for the UK, the Bank of England study that came out ahead of Brexit and showed, okay, mass migration is contributing about £1 in GDP for every citizen in the country.
00:12:43.000I mean, that is not a price at which you should sell away your culture.
00:12:48.000One would argue there is no price at which you should sell away your culture, but certainly not for a pound per citizen.
00:12:54.000And I think most Britons, if they were being honest with themselves nowadays, and unfortunately given the climate we live in, most people are encouraged to not be honest either publicly or with themselves, nor with themselves, is to say actually we need a full moratorium on migration until we can figure out what the heck is going on in our towns and cities.
00:13:15.000That is what I think lays at the heart of these protests.
00:13:18.000That, you know, it hurts so much to watch because not only have we said that this was
00:13:27.000coming down the pipeline, but I've looked at those people, I've marched with those people
00:13:35.00020,000 of us outside Downing Street just a couple of years ago marching for Tommy Robinson's freedom, by the way, when he was being imprisoned illegitimately by the state, when isn't he being imprisoned illegitimately by the state.
00:13:46.000And heard these people's stories about what's going on in their villages, in their towns, in the suburbs of their cities, and what kind of world their children are being expected to be raised in.
00:13:58.000The white working class children being bullied For the colour of their skin in suburbs of Birmingham and London and Rochdale and Rotherham and so forth.
00:14:08.000And of course, the mass grooming gang situation that is still going on to this day in the United Kingdom but that has been swept under a rug by a political class, by a political establishment that does not want to have to look these issues in the face, doesn't want to have to take responsibility for those issues.
00:14:38.000The market collapse seems to be inverting this race completely.
00:14:42.000What is your analysis as someone who has seen these movements ebb and flow over the last decade?
00:14:48.000Yeah, I mean, this is really going to be a race to the line.
00:14:51.000There's not really, I don't perceive a situation when either of these two camps, either of these two candidates really now amasses a massive lead in the polls.
00:15:02.000Or in reality, quite frankly, between now and Election Day, we have to be ready for that slog every single day.
00:15:07.000And it's going to come down to these sorts of things, right?
00:15:12.000A lot of the stuff that you saw out of CBS and YouGov this weekend was garbage because they've changed one of the ideological methodologies in waiting, how they come to a certain place.
00:15:25.000But at the same time, there are plenty of parts of The voter enthusiasm rate on the left is a great example of that.
00:15:34.00020 points up for black voters in terms of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris.
00:15:39.000So it's going to be one of those kind of Photo finishes, I think, and it's going to come down to who is better at mobilizing their base, who is better at the legal challenges that will necessarily ensue in critical parts of the country, and who is able more effectively, I think, to lay claim to a positive future for America.
00:16:01.000Now, if you look at today, if you look at the markets, it's going to be very difficult for Kamala over the course of the next few days to make that case, to state that case.
00:16:09.000And that's why she's not doing any interviews either at the moment.
00:16:12.000Doesn't want to have to account for Bidenomics, for the border and her parts in all of that.
00:16:17.000But President Trump also, I mean, he's out there every day.
00:16:19.000I see him doing a stream with some streamer today.
00:16:22.000It's got seven or eight hundred thousand live viewers. It's
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00:18:12.000Yeah, this piece is based on some FOIA documents I obtained from the Pennsylvania governor's office.
00:18:18.000Outlying how Governor Shapiro's administration pressured state licensing boards to adopt a policy statement that now is going to make it unprofessional conduct for nurses, doctors, therapists, to put children on any pathway other than to affirm their so-called gender identity.
00:18:39.000So Shapiro makes himself seem like he's some sort of a moderate.
00:18:53.000There's a concept called conversion therapy, which has historically meant to describe efforts to change someone's sexual orientation.
00:19:02.000However, there's been a push to include the word gender identity.
00:19:06.000I'm sure you're familiar with that's what's going on with Title IX.
00:19:09.000They're including gender identity, which is really just an activist term to describe how you feel about your sex.
00:19:17.000So because the Pennsylvania state legislator is divided, there's been no success in passing a state law to ban this alleged convergent therapy.
00:19:27.000So instead, Shapiro's administration worked with activists, specifically the Trevor Project, to pressure these boards To adopt a policy statement that specifically says if you're a counselor or a nurse or a doctor and you're trying to help a child resolve their gender distress, instead of putting them on a medicalization pathway, you are allegedly converting their gender identity.
00:19:53.000And that is an offense that's punishable by the state board.
00:19:56.000And that punishment could include possibly revoking a license.
00:20:00.000So what is the Trevor Project's involvement in all of this?
00:20:10.000The Trevor Project is an LGBTQ activist organization.
00:20:14.000And what they were doing is they were working and meeting with the Shapiro administration to talk about how they could Pushed this idea of banning, again, alleged conversion therapy.
00:20:27.000That's something that is on their website.
00:20:31.000And so there was a lot of communication.
00:20:33.000I have FOIA emails showing they were meeting in person.
00:20:37.000One email from someone in the Shapiro administration actually said, They were working with the Trevor Project to help find ways to amplify how the community could report people, report therapists who are helping children resolve their gender distress.
00:20:53.000So, I mean, there was a shocking amount of communication between the Shapiro administration and the Trevor Project.
00:21:01.000So I want to continue on your piece here at DailyCaller.com, and he didn't just allow it.
00:21:06.000His office collaborated in conjunction with this.
00:21:11.000Michael Gere, president of the Pennsylvania Family Institute, says, quote, these actions by Governor Shapiro hinders the ability of counselors and therapists to help their patients and threaten to punish those with convictions and sexuality and gender that differ from the governor's.
00:21:26.000So Dr. Miriam Grossman, for example, she does not believe in hormones or puberty blockers or surgery for minors that might have gender dysphoria.
00:21:36.000She goes through a protocol called watchful waiting, which has always been the way to do this, that puberty is the solution, not the problem, to such trans issues.
00:21:47.000How would she be treated in Pennsylvania given this new order?
00:21:52.000Yeah, I think that there's a real potential that she could be reported to her state licensing board.
00:21:59.000So whether that, I guess that would be the state board of medicine and they could launch an investigation and possibly hold her license up and possibly revoke it, put a penalty on it because she, how these state boards now, according to this policy view, if you're, say a little girl thinks she's a boy and you're not telling her she's a boy, you're saying, no, You're a girl.
00:22:23.000Hey, let's have a watchful way to approach.
00:22:26.000Let's deal with maybe some other issues.
00:22:28.000That is viewed as, again, you're trying to convert that little girl's gender identity, which is crazy.
00:22:33.000And in these policies, interestingly enough, it very specifically says gender transition services.
00:22:41.000So like what you just had mentioned, the medical pathway, putting a child on puberty blockers, putting them on hormone therapy, getting them sex change surgeries.
00:22:49.000That's not viewed as converting a child's gender.
00:22:53.000It's not conversion therapy, which is really laughable.
00:23:10.000I mean, other states have passed laws that kind of bring the same effect.
00:23:15.000I mean, you have the process that our constitution allows us.
00:23:19.000And that's where our representative government discusses these things.
00:23:22.000And a law that's passed can be passed with amendments where it could also potentially be overturned.
00:23:27.000What this is doing, it's actually going right to the, the heart of the therapist or doctor's whole employment.
00:23:35.000I mean, the state, the state boards, it's worth noting that Pennsylvania state boards are actually appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Senate.
00:23:43.000So you have these board of six individuals who, if someone reports a license, they do have the power to revoke their license or administer other board disciplines.
00:23:56.000You think about someone who's a doctor or a nurse or a therapist.
00:23:59.000I mean, they've spent so many years to be able to perform that duty.
00:24:03.000And just the threat alone of potentially losing your ability to work and to provide for your family is going to have a chilling effect On the entire profession.
00:24:15.000And so this seems like classic case of left-wing manipulating our institutions to work around the democratic elected ways that we're supposed to govern our country.
00:24:39.000And I actually, so I went through the meeting minutes, there were five different state boards that adopted an almost identical policy statement.
00:24:45.000And in one of the meeting minutes, someone brought up that they had tried to get a conversion therapy ban passed through the state legislator, but they found it was too deadlocked.
00:24:56.000And I think that this is something that is happening very regularly that maybe the average person isn't aware of, but this is how the bureaucratic state, in my opinion, functions.
00:25:05.000Somebody can't get something through the legislative process to go to other ways to accomplish what they want.
00:25:11.000More broadly, when it comes to Governor Shapiro, what does your research demonstrate as far as his radical tendencies?
00:25:18.000Because I imagine this is just one example of many.
00:25:25.000And I unfortunately lived through the COVID mitigation in Pennsylvania, which was some of the most brutal in the entire country.
00:25:32.000And during that time, Josh Shapiro was the attorney general.
00:25:35.000So he was really the muscle behind all of these strong mitigation efforts.
00:25:40.000I think, for example, he took a friend of mine to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania and lost trying to uphold an illegal mask mandate that mandated all kids through all of 2021 in Pennsylvania were required to wear a mask.
00:25:52.000So my experience is not one that he's been very radical, that he's a moderate, but I found him to be very radical.
00:25:59.000He's all in with the trans agenda recently.
00:26:03.000He was recently at a Pride Festival where he said he actually was kind of boasting that he had fought in court for trans kids, which I think we know there's no such thing as a trans kid.
00:26:18.000And anyone going to tell a child otherwise is really selling them a really horrible lie.
00:26:23.000Just speaking more broadly when it comes to Pennsylvania, your reporting shows, what do you think will be the determining issues and regions of Pennsylvania?
00:26:34.000Erie is a lot different from Scranton and so on and so forth.
00:26:39.000Just looking at it objectively from an analytical perspective, what issues and areas will be the most consequential?
00:26:46.000I think that women's rights are a really big issue.
00:26:50.000I think that a lot of, I know most of the people that I know from Pennsylvania I've spoken to do not want men and women's sports.
00:26:57.000And the 2022 governor's election, I can tell you that my friends from Pennsylvania joked it was the abortion election.
00:27:02.000Not that that's funny, but I think abortion is a really hot topic in Pennsylvania.
00:27:07.000And I don't know that I think the messaging and how it's sold is a big thing.
00:27:11.000So that's, that's probably one of the top issues I think voters At least in the cities are going to be voting on, but it is a very diverse state and it's a beautiful state.
00:27:21.000And I think that it's a state that deserves better than the radical, the radicalism that's coming from its government.
00:30:29.000What is the reasoning that they could give for this?
00:30:31.000Bill Malusian reports, per Department of Homeland Security data between fiscal years 2021 and 2023, at least 99 illegal aliens on the FBI terror watch list were released into the United States after being arrested by Border Patrol at the southern border.
00:30:45.000Another 34 watch-listed aliens are still in DHS custody.
00:30:49.000Additionally, DHS data provided to the committee reveals how the terror watch list aliens were different from the 36 different countries and have been apprehended at the southern border, including terrorists from Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Somalia, yeah they're great, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkey, Uzbekistan, and Yemen.