In this episode of Thought Crime, we have Tyler Robinson back in studio with us, Andrew in an undisclosed location, and Jack in an even more suspicious looking undisclosed location... possibly a hostage situation. We also talk about the recent events at Fort Huachuca, and how it ties into the Back to the Future movie.
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00:02:29.000If you're in the Army, you're going for training right after boot camp, or you would then go back for further training like I was doing, but it's not.
00:03:18.000You like go down, like you know, in you know, in Back to the Future part two, when they go visit like the cemetery, and it's like, and they like see all the does anyone know what I'm talking about?
00:04:41.000We've done some international episodes before, but I think this is the first time that we've done an episode of Thought Crime where the things that I say on this program could be actual crimes where I am.
00:04:53.000Yeah, especially if you blaspheme the prophet of Islam, who we know is the state religion of the country that you're in right now.
00:05:49.000Jack had so much American spirit that his presence in the country of England caused them to score against Argentina with Messi.
00:05:59.000So, I mean, that's what they were kind of expecting.
00:06:02.000Did you ever, Jack, did you run into their manager and tell them to have that terrible strategy that caused them to lose the game where they scored a goal?
00:06:20.000So, one of the jokes that's going around, we're here at CPAC UK, and one of the jokes is that as a German, of course, he was collaborating with the Argentinians.
00:07:03.000You have your topic you wanted to talk about, and it involves the state of Arizona, which is a state near and dear to your heart because, unlike all the rest of us, you're actually from here.
00:08:36.000He's been, he was the vice chair of the Democrat Party in Arizona, pictured here with Kamala Harris, and is now a, has quit.
00:08:50.000So he's no longer the vice chair of the Democrat Party.
00:08:52.000But this was literally someone that got elected as the leader of the Democrat Party and was caught this week, was arrested for going to his lover's or somebody's.
00:10:23.000You need to ask the Daily Mail to write an article about this so we can actually get the useful information about this person in an article that we can read.
00:13:39.000Yeah, I was texting with the main journalist.
00:13:41.000When he got elected vice chair, did they know this?
00:13:44.000I was texting with one of the main political reporters at the Arizona Republic today, just making fun of him all day because I was like, you guys aren't even reporting on any of this stuff.
00:13:56.000You guys write anytime that somebody coughs the wrong way as a Republican, you guys write headline stories.
00:14:03.000You guys aren't writing headline stories on any of this stuff.
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00:16:42.000So, this is a nightmare for Democrats in Arizona because, again, this is the reason why they don't want to report on it because there's going to be body cam footage.
00:18:13.000I have a minorly soft spot in my heart because he was one of the few people who absolutely hate us that reached out after Charlie was okay.
00:18:39.000I know you're trying to get in there.0.66
00:18:40.000But no, I was going to say that this would actually be extremely on brand for a lesbian because if we're ready to really get into thought crimes, that according to the CDC in multiple reports, the lifetime physical violence by an intimate partner, the highest percentage is with lesbian couples.0.99
00:19:12.000Because so, the number one, the worst combination that people have shown, and I don't believe this totally because they say that men stay together, like two gay men stay together longer than male female combinations now.0.90
00:19:27.000But by wide margin, lesbian couples have the most tumult in their relationships.0.93
00:19:55.000The craziest thing is that this is so not reported yet.
00:19:59.000I think we can get some people to report this.
00:20:02.000I'm going to send this segment to a couple people.
00:20:05.000People complain that local news is dying out.
00:20:07.000And I think this is a large part of it you'll have these libs who are working at the Arizona Republic, and they'll complain nobody reads local news anymore.
00:20:14.000No one's supporting their local newspapers.1.00
00:20:16.000And then they just actively refuse to cover the things that would totally get them eyeballs like insane, weird, transgender person.1.00
00:20:27.000Who's a Democrat, burglarizes their lover or something like this is free content.1.00
00:20:31.000You should be milking this for all it's worth.
00:20:45.000I want to bring this up because I got to talk about on the show.
00:20:48.000Like, there's going to be lots of things that happen with this because this isn't just like some rando candidate that the Democrats can disavow.
00:20:56.000They elected. him to be the vice chair of the Democrat Party for multiple years.
00:21:03.000When did said, when did said trans person stop being a vice chair?
00:21:28.000In 2018, they have a photo of him And he definitely looks much more, uh, dude who grew his hair long compared to recent ones, which seem much more, yeah, operative, for lack of a better word.
00:21:44.000Operative is actually the word, yeah, you're right.
00:21:45.000It's probably operations, operative is literally the word, actually, exactly.
00:21:50.000Before we move on to the next thing, how excited are you about the?
00:21:57.000Well, I was gonna say if before we semi move on to the next topic, I was gonna ask if he's excited about the New York Post writing up his other, uh, His other bete noir in Arizona politics, Ruben Gallego.
00:22:27.000So if you're, I mean, maybe this is just a broader question for everyone, but, you know, if you're a Democrat and you get elected as one gender.
00:22:38.000And then at some point, you transition to another gender and also change your name, and you say, This is actually my real identity.
00:22:47.000Then, would there be a question that your election to government was actually, therefore, invalid because you actually weren't elected?
00:23:00.000I mean, I think that you should be able to make that case, right?
00:23:03.000I wish we could make that case because then we could bring it against all the Republicans who run as one thing and then become a bunch of eunuchs in DC.
00:23:11.000Because there are certainly spiritual eunuchs as well as quite literal physical ones who run OnlyFans.
00:23:26.000Did we get this clip that I found today?
00:23:30.000Before we lose off the trans topic, I believe we do have this loaded.
00:23:35.000So I'm over here in the UK and it came across.1.00
00:23:38.000So there was a murder in the UK, this beautiful.
00:23:43.000Woman, this older woman, Ann Whitacombe, she's a former conservative MP.
00:23:47.000She's been serving as a spokeswoman for reform, Nigel Farage's party, and she was murdered in her home, bludgeoned to death in her own kitchen in the countryside in Devon.
00:23:59.000And we're, you know, at first they said, oh, it's not political, it's not political.
00:24:04.000But then we found out that the suspect drove 300 miles to get to her house and then drove all the way back, which is a little bit odd if it's just a burglary or something.
00:24:14.000And now the police are actually investigating it as.
00:24:19.000Political and uh, you know, remains to be seen, obviously.
00:24:23.000Caveat, caveat, but there was a uh, a trans um, I guess MP that you know that they have from Scotland who was just trashing Ann.0.99
00:24:36.000I said, Oh my gosh, I can't believe this!0.95
00:24:37.000And then I saw that this trans had also made some comments about Charlie, and I had never even heard of this.
00:24:46.000And you know, maybe it's something that had gone viral, you know, kind of in the wake of that when we were all sort of um.
00:24:52.000You know, we were sort of obviously otherwise occupied.
00:24:54.000But guys, I saw it, so you have to see it.
00:26:23.000Teachers and nurses, like, it's, I don't know what it is, like a moth to the flame, but it's like crazy radicals are just drawn to these two professions.
00:26:32.000And I will never really fully understand why.0.92
00:26:35.000I have my theories, but it's like, man, be careful when you're talking to nurses and teachers, professors, because 50% odds you're talking to a lunatic.
00:27:54.000My theory on the teachers and nurses is because obviously there are some people who are attracted to it because they actually want to help others, and those are the best ones.
00:28:05.000But there's also a subset of people who are attracted to those positions because they give you power over others.
00:28:13.000And in both cases, power over people who can't do anything about it.
00:28:20.000A patient obviously is inherently going to be somewhat limited, and a child, right?
00:28:27.000And so a lot of it has to do with projection because you look at some of those people in their personal lives and they're so horrible.
00:28:34.000And these are the people who have their apartments are cluttered and filled with insanity, and their personal lives are usually an absolute.
00:28:47.000And then because they can't control themselves and can't control their own lives, what they do is they seek out these positions where they can have these little modicums of control over others and they become these petty tyrants.
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00:30:21.000Took him on a vacation to Hawaii, and I was listening to some people from Texas that were in the pool, just overhearing them.
00:30:28.000And the young woman, she must have been 22, something like that, was telling this older couple, The reason I got into teaching is because I want to turn them into communists.
00:30:36.000Like I heard her saying it out loud, and she looked like a total radical leftist floating in a pool, enjoying the fruits of capitalism.
00:30:46.000And she said, Yeah, that's why I got into it.
00:30:48.000They get really excited when they have a new guy with Blake walk in because he looks like Vladimir Lenin.
00:30:56.000Speaking of the Nephilim, speaking of the Nephilim, I am imposing topic two on us because I am excited for this.0.98
00:31:03.000JD Vance, we talked a lot on the show earlier today about what Vance had to say about Epstein and Israel and a variety of other things.
00:31:11.000But we need to get into the best part of Vice President Vance's conversation with Joe Rogan, which is when they started talking about aliens and if they are.
00:31:48.000Well, I. First of all, not just in Christianity, but in a number of world religions, there are a number of, like, you know, mystical things that happened, extra dimensional, extra.
00:32:07.000Like, I'm not one of these people who's like a hyper rationalist.
00:32:11.000Like, I think that there are things happening in the world that we're not always seeing.
00:32:26.000So, if you look historically at, you know, things that are similar to the alien phenomenon, where, oh, some like strange being, it kind of looks like a human being, but doesn't look like, but's not human, and it kind of, Shows a particular interest in human beings, and then it takes the human beings and, you know, like does weird experiments on them.0.94
00:32:53.000I think my argument is that's either bullshit, right?0.77
00:32:55.000You're either talking to a crazy person, which I don't like, I'm not saying just because I believe in the supernatural doesn't mean I believe in everything supernatural.0.99
00:33:03.000But if we're talking about an extraterrestrial being that is human like but not human, that contains effectively infinite powers and is torturing human beings.
00:33:18.000You can call it an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon.
00:33:49.000We'll have to get to the bottom of this.
00:33:51.000But while we wait and investigate and maybe have one of our staffers seek out whether Tyler is still with us or not, what do we make of that?
00:33:59.000We actually have other people that don't want to.
00:36:34.000There could be two or three people who know about that specific read in and who have access to that specific ACCM.
00:36:41.000And then there'll be people on like two cubicles away from them that don't even know about it and are working on their other thing.
00:36:48.000So the idea that the president would even be read in at all would only come up if something broached the level of needing some type, if it needed some kind of presidential authority or finding, or really if it got public.
00:37:09.000This is like the guy who stole like 40 million in gold or gold bars from the CIA or something and claimed that he was working on a black operation.0.56
00:37:17.000So it's, again, it's just like Russian nesting dolls, one upon another.
00:37:24.000And I don't think there's any one person who actually knows everything the government is doing.0.89
00:37:32.000I'm saying that as a guy who actually tried to understand how all of this works and went into that world.
00:37:38.000I think that's probably the best way I can put it.
00:37:40.000What's interesting with Vance on Rogan is he, I think he throws this out there, maybe thinking this is something that Rogan's going to really agree on.
00:37:47.000But actually, Rogan pushes back and it's kind of like, I'm not sure I follow this, Mr. Vice President.
00:38:17.000We're capable of understanding that human beings are far more complex and evolved than chimpanzees.
00:38:23.000And we could imagine a world where if we don't blow ourselves up and there's not a nuclear bomb and we don't get hit by an asteroid, if we live another million years, that we would have technology that's indistinguishable from magic.
00:38:47.000Hyper evolved advanced civilizations from somewhere else, and what I'm saying is the perception of those beings to a more simple intelligence sure, there's not a meaningful difference.
00:39:04.000So, first, someone in the chat says Tyler definitely got probed.
00:39:08.000Second, uh, Kyrie in the chat is a little traumatized because Vice President Vance has said the word BS twice, he's clearly enjoying the slightly uh.
00:39:18.000Less PG atmosphere of going on the Joe Rogan experience.
00:39:57.000We hear a lot of demon talk these days, and I'm not sure that it's been that good for the right for us to be talking about demons all of the time.
00:40:13.000I don't think that it's something that's going to cause a political issue, if that's what you're saying, that it's going to drive people to be upset or something.
00:40:25.000I think it's one of those things that.
00:40:28.000Um, you know, that it does, it certainly does very well in the podcast sphere.
00:40:31.000I think it's a very interesting, like we're doing right now.
00:40:35.000And I think it's something that uh, people have a genuine interest in.
00:40:41.000Um, I don't know, I don't know if it has any political ramifications, if that's what you're asking.
00:40:48.000Um, the question is, it's because it's more like it's more like, and and you know, there are probably a good amount of people in the base that certainly agree with it.
00:41:01.000So, yeah, the question is, is it real?
00:41:05.000And if JD's being truthful, I mean, Blake, I think your point is like, is he going to rile up a bunch of crazy on the internet and, you know, cause them to spiral out of control and we're going to just get more crazy conspiratorial nonsense?
00:41:18.000But what I would say is, like, I actually, as somebody who agrees with what he's saying, that the more plausible answer is that there are spiritual beings, whether they are of light or of dark, that sometimes appear to man.
00:41:31.000And we see that through scripture that.
00:41:32.000Angels do appear to man from time to time.
00:41:34.000And maybe, you know, the higher up in the atmosphere that we have aircraft, the more we're going to encounter celestial beings.
00:42:05.000Charlie and I have told this story slightly.
00:42:08.000We alluded to it that we were shared some information at some point that led us to believe that aliens are a real thing.
00:42:18.000So take that for what it's worth, right?
00:42:22.000At this point, there's been enough talk about it.
00:42:24.000I'm a big believer Trump's probably going to want to go down as the guy before he leaves office that exposes a lot of truth on the whole alien thing.
00:42:51.000Everybody, the whole world is like pressed up against you, telling you that you can't tell everyone because they're not sure what it'll do to the markets or whatever.
00:43:02.000Like, so, you know, if this thing is real, which we think it is, and enough people have talked about it, I think there's a really good chance.
00:43:10.000In 2027, late or early, or mid 2028, we'll probably hear something more concrete.
00:43:19.000Now, the question is, what are the repercussions of that?
00:43:23.000So, there's speculation that aliens are real, and there's a lot of different viewpoints of this.
00:43:30.000It's like they're angels, they're demons, they're us that have gone outside the time warp.
00:43:37.000They're us that have traveled into the past to come back to the present.
00:43:39.000Well, it's like the interstellar thing, right?
00:43:42.000Which is like they've advanced like five, 10,000 years beyond outside.
00:43:48.000You know, and in a different time, and then they've traveled back.
00:43:54.000Whatever the answer is, all I know is that I think it hasn't really shook my religion because I do believe kind of what JD is saying, which is that there's probably some really big thing that involves God where he will make these things known to us as he intends.
00:44:20.000And I think that that's the interesting part about this whole thing is like whatever happens over the next couple of years, or maybe it doesn't, maybe Trump, maybe I'm wrong, maybe Trump doesn't want to be the guy that's known forever as the president who unlocks aliens for the world.
00:44:32.000But I think he is, but I think that that's it.
00:44:36.000I think at the end of the day, this is really, I think people need to consider kind of along the lines of what JD's saying.
00:44:43.000And I think that that's actually maybe a soft approach so that the world doesn't freak out.
00:44:53.000For nearly three thousand years, Homer's the Odyssey has shaped Western imagination.
00:44:59.000It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters shipwrecks, false comforts and impossible choices on his long journey home.
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00:45:13.000It explores permanent questions about courage duty loyalty, family leadership, temptation and the search for home.
00:45:21.000In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, Choosing instead the long and difficult journey home.
00:45:29.000His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory.
00:46:26.000Yeah, he basically posits that these ancient civilizations were.
00:46:32.000Far more advanced than we realize, either through the archaeological record or whatever.
00:46:38.000He brings up some interesting points, and his whole position is basically speculating whether or not there were aliens or time traveling humans that went back in time and helped them become far more advanced.
00:46:50.000And then there was some great cataclysmic apocalypse, whether it be weather related or a comet or something that essentially stopped them in their tracks.
00:46:59.000And it's taken this long for human civilization to.
00:47:02.000Now advance up to that point and past it.
00:47:05.000But it's what a lot of people believe.
00:47:08.000And I think that's what Joe Rogan is kind of speculating.
00:47:10.000By the way, Joe Rogan, when he starts talking about this stuff, it was like you could instantly see that JD Vance entered into Joe Rogan's wheelhouse and he's like, son, let me tell you about all of the UFO specialists that I've had on the show.
00:47:24.000He had like some very, very authoritative statements there that he made.
00:47:31.000The point is time traveling humans, aliens, angels, or demons.
00:47:37.000I mean, now that I think about it, the more I'm listening to what JD said, it Kind of made me feel like he's convinced there's something there that he's seen something, and that's actually the weirder take.
00:47:50.000Like, I felt like listening back to that, he sees something.
00:47:54.000Now, my hot take here, and I emphatically believe it, is we may get our government to come out and confirm that aliens are real, and yeah, as you said, 27, 28, maybe some future year after that, but it's not going to be because they are real, it's just going to be because we have too many people in government who drink the Kool Aid and get bamboozled by this stuff.
00:48:21.000There was that clip they published just a few days ago that looked weird.
00:48:23.000And then someone pointed out it looked like it was stretched horizontally.
00:48:27.000And as soon as you compressed it a little bit to be more normal looking, like with its pixels, it just looks like a bunch of balloons floating through the air.
00:48:35.000I just feel like that's what it is every single time.
00:48:46.000I agree with you that most of the evidence that's come out does not seem very compelling to me.
00:48:51.000And that, so I was on Air Force One when Peter Ducey asked the president that question about the UFOs.
00:49:01.000And, you know, I've been with the president when I could tell when there's something that sort of excites him.
00:49:08.000I could tell there's something that, like, it's a question he's into.
00:49:11.000There's people who think that he's like this, you know, opaque, impossible to read guy.
00:49:15.000And I actually have the totally opposite view.
00:49:17.000I think he's pretty open about where he stands on things.
00:49:20.000And, He's pretty vocal, obviously, on where he stands.
00:49:25.000And it just seemed like a question that, or a topic that he was just not really that into.
00:49:31.000It just seemed like something that he was, you know, hadn't given much thought to.
00:49:37.000And, you know, he came up with an answer on the spot, which was a good answer, but it certainly wasn't something that, you know, he had on the tip of his tongue.
00:49:43.000So I'm just going to say that having that firsthand observation, he did not really seem all that into it.
00:49:50.000But he said, like, hey, you know, if people want these files, you know, sure, yeah, we'll release whatever you want.
00:50:27.000Because there's a lot of different faith points around demons, but some people believe that demons can possess people, but they don't have their own bodies and physical nature, right?
00:50:40.000Yeah, that's what I believe is that they never attained a body, but they exist.
00:50:45.000Yeah, by the way, Tyler, I want to say, even though I had that experience with the president, I don't disagree with anything you're saying at all.
00:50:54.000So I think demons exist that aren't aliens.
00:50:58.000But I think that perceivably, angels that have been sent to Earth, which I totally believe has happened biblically and everything else, could be interdimensional.
00:51:28.000And it portrays him as invisible to others.
00:51:31.000Like, Mary can see Gabriel, but nobody else.
00:51:35.000And that's kind of what gets me about this, is where they're saying this UFO phenomenon, like, it could be.
00:51:40.000It could be angels, it could be heavenly phenomenon.
00:51:42.000I guess if our idea of it is that it's supernatural, would it really like show up on our cameras like that?
00:51:50.000It's just something I don't know, yeah.
00:51:54.000I'll just tell you, I'll just tell you straight up that most of the stuff that people see over and like I'm I'm I just talked to you asking about the intel community before.
00:52:01.000Like, most of the stuff that you see over the skies is just new technology that they have not made public yet.
00:52:14.000And, you know, a lot of this is done in the contract world.
00:52:16.000So they can come out and say, oh, that's not a, you know, those aren't government assets.
00:52:20.000And it's like, well, yeah, because it's a contractor who has a government contract, right?
00:52:23.000But it's, it's like that's, that's mostly what you're seeing is proprietary technology.
00:52:28.000Well, and this is a really good point.
00:52:32.000This is a really good point, Jack, because like you think about what's like the B 2 bomber, like, isn't that like 1980s technology or whatever?
00:52:39.000So we're like maybe before that we start developing it.
00:53:18.000And essentially, the theory is that if you spin liquid plasma around at a really fast rate, essentially, there's no limitations on G's that the vessel can then pull, right?
00:53:28.000So, if the thing is, stop, start, yeah.
00:53:33.000And so, this is a theoretical, in theory, it might be quite real, actually, technology that the US government probably, maybe, who knows, has.
00:53:43.000And these would be floating objects that could move up and down, side to side.
00:53:48.000Take right angle turns, that sort of thing.
00:53:51.000And, you know, this is stuff that people have developed quite a long ways in the theoretical world, and they theorize that it could actually already exist.
00:54:01.000So, a lot of people, if that's true, if this technology does exist and we've had it for some amount of time, then maybe that's what a lot of this stuff is.
00:54:10.000So, just throwing this out here because we're talking about this and whether it's modern or not, have you guys ever heard of the celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg?
00:54:32.000In 1561, so this is before we had modern cameras or anything, reportedly, many women and men in the city of Nuremberg in Germany, which was one of the biggest cities in Europe at the time, a big happening spot, they saw an aerial battle out of the sun in which a large black triangular object appeared.
00:54:53.000And various spheres began to tumble out of the sky.
00:54:57.000They allegedly saw hundreds of different colored spheres, cylinders, and other odd shaped objects that moved erratically overhead.
00:55:07.000And it apparently was just quite the site for everyone, and no one has any idea what it is.
00:55:12.000And someone wrote it up and published it in a broadsheet back then, and everyone kind of was like, wow, that must have been pretty weird, but we don't know what it was.
00:55:20.000Was there multiple witnesses that documented this, or is it just some write up in 50s?
00:55:45.000There were blood red strips becoming thicker to the rear and in the front, malleable like the rods of reed grass with which they intermingled.
00:55:55.000It's too long to read all of it, but this stuff's been going around for a long time.
00:55:59.000Well, can I make one more point before we jump off all of this?
00:56:03.000And that's when JD Vance brings up spirituality to Rogan, and it's It amazes me that a guy like Rogan, who's super successful as he is, that he's still clinging to this very teenage kind of high school party boy mentality that, oh, I can believe in DMT machine elves and I can believe in aliens and interdimensional beings.
00:56:29.000But the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, and they got into it over the Ten Commandments later, the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, you just have to shut it down immediately.
00:56:40.000And that's actually what I think his sort of knee jerk response was there.
00:56:44.000Because he's generally been very hostile to religion.
00:56:49.000Yeah, it's like he was more uncomfortable with the idea of.
00:56:53.000Like, it's really interesting what you're saying.
00:56:54.000He was more uncomfortable with the idea of angels than he was with the idea of aliens.
00:57:57.000But that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want to discuss that stuff.0.58
00:58:00.000And when you have somebody that knows a lot of stuff that may, like, when you're asking, finding questions, and it may not be that he'll make him look stupid, but he's like trying to discover on his own or whatever.
00:58:12.000You know, people are in different places.
00:58:14.000I think that that was one of the reasons why he never had Charlie on.
00:58:19.000I would also, I've also, and I've said this, and by the way, this isn't like out of like, you know, anything.
00:58:25.000I've also noticed that in general, he doesn't tend to have like Trump supporters on.
00:58:32.000He's had like, obviously, JD and the president himself one time.
00:58:37.000But in general, if you're someone who's just really known as a public Trump supporter, like ever since he went to Spotify, you were not getting on.
00:58:47.000And obviously, there's been episodes of people who were Trump supporters that he had scrubbed.
00:58:52.000And, you know, it's as from 2016 to 17, and or whenever you don't make the jump over.
00:58:58.000It's just been something that I've always noted that, like, you can be an arts liberal, you can be a democrat, you can be a socialist, but you can be a neocon, but you cannot be MAGA.
00:59:20.000I mean, so, and that's why, that's what always grinded me about him not having Charlie on.
00:59:24.000Not that, you know, not from the religious perspective, but it's like, Who was more relevant of a pro prompt MAGA voice in 2024 than Charlie Kirk, right?
00:59:35.000Or, and certainly 2025, if you win the election and everybody knows that Charlie played this massive role.
00:59:41.000And, like, just if you're running a podcast and you want to talk, you want to inform your viewers about what's going on in the world, wouldn't Charlie Kirk be the obvious person to sit down and have a two, three hour conversation with?
00:59:53.000I, yeah, I'm just my controversial take is I don't know that I've ever found Rogan's podcast that good on its own merits.
01:00:00.000Like, he gets really good guests, and so sometimes those guests.
01:00:03.000Are going to say very interesting things, and it's very long, so you get a lot of content out of it.
01:00:08.000But I think Jack is right in the sense that he falls short in terms of that specific thing.
01:00:13.000He should have had Charlie on, and he just never did.
01:00:15.000And there's a lot of people he should have had on, and he has the platform to do it.
01:00:19.000And we talk about podcasts and new media as a way to get around all the blockades that exist in normal media.
01:00:26.000I think he could execute a little bit better on that.
01:01:57.000I mean, Charlie had a billion people that wanted to profile him, and we kind of picked and chose what we thought was the best approach there.
01:02:05.000And I emailed Rogan's people right in that same time period, and they instantly, I'll never forget, it was like they instantly wrote back.
01:02:12.000It was like within five minutes, I got an email response back.
01:02:16.000And they said, you know, we'll be back in touch.
01:11:31.000I am convinced people get hyped about this, but one, America's outline as a country, like if we had a silhouette, would look really stupid if we added Alberta.0.98
01:11:46.000And two, I am convinced, unfortunately, people talk about how it would be this new red state.
01:11:51.000I'm convinced Alberta would be a blue state in U.S. politics.
01:11:54.000Because remember, first of all, it's Canada, so they have multiple parties.
01:11:58.000So you have their Conservative Party nationally, and then the Liberal Democrat Party, and they have the Liberals, and they also have the Greens, and the Greens are getting a few percent.
01:12:08.000And if you suddenly just shove that into Republican Democrat U.S. politics, there are Conservatives in Canada who would be Democrats in the U.S., as is common in these countries.
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01:13:39.000There's your segue, Blake, to our next topic.
01:13:41.000Our next and final topic, which we're just hitting it.
01:13:45.000We're kind of just going to ask which of us is going to take the plunge and is going to watch the Odyssey so we can discuss next week whether the Odyssey was actually good or not?
01:14:55.000And by the way, I've, like, in the UK, been hearing people talk about how excited they are for it.
01:15:00.000And, like, they're, like, honestly saying how much they think it's going to be this great movie that just when I'm around folks, not at, like, the CPAC and just, like, kind of around town coffee shop or whatever.
01:16:28.000Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, and Helen of Troy.
01:16:31.000Odyssey, Odyssey, after the Iliad, Hidden no horse, won the war, yeah, I'm serious.
01:16:35.000Odyssey, Odyssey, ditching for Ithaca, get past the Peloponnesian Peninsula.
01:16:39.000Odyssey, Odyssey, Mediterranean, Psychotic Cyclops, and crater his cranium, Cerseus, cursing the men into bick and bits, gotta go on the road, head to where Hades is.
01:16:47.000Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, and Helen of Troy.
01:16:50.000We could be Homer, the way we go over, the story in six feet.
01:16:54.000Pull it, Xanada, call it whatever, so long as it's this beat.
01:16:58.000Sounds on sirens and suitors on suitors, and Zilla, Charybdis, so much on the moors.
01:17:02.000But Helen, Athena, a helpful and generous help me get home to defeat that Antinous.
01:17:06.000Tell me a muse of that hero who's traveled so far and so wide, and his life came unraveled.
01:17:09.000And tell me a muse of that hero who's got to be tired as hell because of the Odyssey.
01:17:14.000Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odyssey.
01:17:23.000I will say, if that was like some sort of thing that someone made in 2010.
01:17:29.000With, like, a low budget cartoon, I'd have dug it.
01:17:33.000But there's something different when they got all of these $20 million for a bit part actors in this to show up and do that.
01:17:41.000That felt like a Saturday Night Live bit.
01:17:42.000That literally felt like a Saturday Night Live bit.
01:17:45.000But again, if you speak ill of this, if you say, How dare you put Lupita Nyongo as the face that launched a thousand ships, then you are.
01:18:01.000Biggins, you mean if you speak ill of this Odysseus?
01:19:15.000Who is turned into a woman by the god Apollo as punishment for something or other?
01:19:21.000And like they ask him questions about this.
01:19:24.000Like, that is an actual thing in the poem that Tiresias is there, was a man, was turned into a woman.
01:19:28.000So, like, if you literally wanted to have a transgender character in your movie adaptation of an epic film, you actually could do it this time.
01:19:38.000And instead, they had Elliot Page be this like Greek warrior who runs like a girl.0.89
01:19:43.000Hold on, I'm going to interject here.0.57
01:19:44.000Doesn't Athena also disguise herself as a man to travel with?
01:21:04.000She's talked about uh being sexually abused in Hollywood as a teenager, so she she had talked about literally being the victim of grooming and sexual abuse by men and a woman, and um, you know, a number of things.
01:21:18.000And so that it's you know, it's it's it's something where it's just like you know.
01:21:30.000And this is clearly just someone who's undergone a serious amount of trauma.
01:21:35.000And rather than, like, most people who undergo this, probably all, that, you know, rather than actually help them deal with the issue that they have, they do this whole, you know, what they call it, the, like, oh my gosh, what's the, what's the, I'm super jet lagged over here.
01:22:32.000But if Blake comes back and be like, yeah, I don't see it, I'm definitely not going to see it.
01:22:37.000Matt Damon as Odysseus actually isn't that bad of a casting, and I'm kind of surprised that I actually didn't realize that until I saw the trailer here because I'm like, oh, that's actually pretty good casting.