The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 135 — JD Vance and Aliens? Šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street? The Agony and The Odyssey?

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00:01:17.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:18.000 Welcome to episode 135 of Thought Crime.

00:01:23.000 We were off last week because, of course, we had to cover the Tyler Robinson hearing every inch of it, but we are now back.

00:01:30.000 We have Tyler with us.

00:01:31.000 He tries to sneak away a lot, but Tyler is with us in studio.

00:01:36.000 On the road, we have Andrew in an undisclosed location and Jack in an even more suspicious looking undisclosed location.

00:01:44.000 Possibly a hostage video.

00:01:45.000 We're not sure.

00:01:46.000 Are you guys both there?

00:01:47.000 Can you hear us?

00:01:49.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

00:01:50.000 Andrew, how's the weather down at Fort Watch?

00:01:52.000 Oh, you got to be careful with these things.

00:01:55.000 We're going to get at least like 18 episodes about that from you know who.

00:02:00.000 You know how the internet clips this stuff.

00:02:02.000 My goodness.

00:02:04.000 Thanks, Tyler.

00:02:06.000 The throw pill is at the floor.

00:02:08.000 The throw pill is at the floor.

00:02:09.000 It's really nice.

00:02:11.000 And I think we've talked about it on the show before.

00:02:15.000 I've served at Fort Huachuca, I think, twice in my career for different training programs.

00:02:22.000 And anyone who actually knows anything about the military knows that Fort Huachuca is like a training base.

00:02:27.000 That's literally where you go.

00:02:29.000 If you're in the Army, you're going for training right after boot camp, or you would then go back for further training like I was doing, but it's not.

00:02:38.000 It's a training base.

00:02:39.000 I will say, I have never been there, but.

00:02:44.000 Due to all of the insane things they've said, I'll eventually have to go to Tombstone to check it out and do the standard tourist run.

00:02:51.000 And it's pretty close to there.

00:02:53.000 So I'll probably go and take photos and just for the memes, as it were.

00:02:58.000 You know what's really, really cool is, Tyler, I think we've talked about it, the town of Bisbee.

00:03:03.000 You know Bisbee?

00:03:04.000 Yeah, I've heard that's great.

00:03:05.000 I want to go there.

00:03:06.000 It's really cool.

00:03:07.000 You just stole the words right out of my mouth, Jack.

00:03:09.000 I'm like the biggest promoter of this.

00:03:11.000 The Queen Mine, that's a copper mine.

00:03:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:03:15.000 And they still can take you down there. 0.82

00:03:17.000 And.

00:03:18.000 You like go down, like you know, in you know, in Back to the Future part two, when they go visit like the cemetery, and it's like, and they like see all the does anyone know what I'm talking about?

00:03:32.000 Part two or part three?

00:03:33.000 Well, it's in part three, it's the old part one.

00:03:35.000 No, it starts in part two.

00:03:37.000 Remember when they go to the no, no, no, part two, they go and he finds out that like his dad died.

00:03:43.000 No, he died like way back.

00:03:44.000 He's like, wait, what?

00:03:46.000 And then it leads into part three.

00:03:47.000 Oh, it's the end of part two.

00:03:49.000 It's like the end of part two.

00:03:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:51.000 I know you're talking about it.

00:03:52.000 The mine, you like go in, like, there's like a graveyard that's right there, and then you like go into a mine.

00:03:58.000 It's like the most Western thing that you've ever seen in your entire life.

00:04:01.000 And it's really cool down there.

00:04:02.000 It's like a really, it's a great thing to take people.

00:04:04.000 I'm excited to go.

00:04:05.000 I went north for this last Memorial Day, but maybe the next time I have a three day weekend, I will explore the south of this state.

00:04:11.000 That reminds me a lot.

00:04:12.000 But speaking of this state, we have an unusual first topic, but we wanted to get it because Tyler never suggests topics.

00:04:19.000 He's like always a bit out of it.

00:04:22.000 He sometimes rolls in and is like, what are we talking about?

00:04:24.000 But he had something he wanted to talk about today.

00:04:27.000 Can I just throw out, before we get into the topic, I just want to throw out that I will tell everyone that.

00:04:34.000 So, this is the first episode, as far as I know, that we've done from London, England.

00:04:39.000 So, I'm in London, England.

00:04:41.000 We've done some international episodes before, but I think this is the first time that we've done an episode of Thought Crime where the things that I say on this program could be actual crimes where I am.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, especially if you blaspheme the prophet of Islam, who we know is the state religion of the country that you're in right now.

00:05:02.000 The husband of the world.

00:05:03.000 I noticed you were on set with peers.

00:05:06.000 That was like the first time I've ever seen anything.

00:05:08.000 Anybody on Piers Morgan on set with him?

00:05:11.000 That was like.

00:05:12.000 Yeah, no, it was actually right there.

00:05:15.000 You could smell his musk.

00:05:17.000 Anyways, not Elon Musk.

00:05:19.000 I could.

00:05:21.000 I was very attracted, I have to admit.

00:05:24.000 But I maintained my unblemished record of heterosexuality.

00:05:29.000 Did he smell like tikka masala?

00:05:34.000 Isn't that his favorite food?

00:05:36.000 Some kind of cologne, something?

00:05:38.000 Didn't see anything like that anywhere near there.

00:05:40.000 Jack rolled into England and England immediately lost their football game.

00:05:47.000 Ah, that's right, Jack.

00:05:48.000 You're to blame.

00:05:49.000 Jack had so much American spirit that his presence in the country of England caused them to score against Argentina with Messi.

00:05:59.000 So, I mean, that's what they were kind of expecting.

00:06:02.000 Did you ever, Jack, did you run into their manager and tell them to have that terrible strategy that caused them to lose the game where they scored a goal?

00:06:10.000 No, you know their manager isn't.

00:06:12.000 You know the story about the manager, though, right?

00:06:14.000 I don't follow soccer.

00:06:16.000 So, no, I just know this because I'm here and people are all talking about it.

00:06:19.000 So, he's actually German.

00:06:20.000 So, one of the jokes that's going around, we're here at CPAC UK, and one of the jokes is that as a German, of course, he was collaborating with the Argentinians.

00:06:34.000 He's going to flee to Argentina next.

00:06:36.000 That's what comes next.

00:06:37.000 Precisely.

00:06:40.000 I'm sure there's some Polish people that made their way over to Argentina at some point, too.

00:06:45.000 There's some Polish blood over there, too.

00:06:47.000 Probably.

00:06:47.000 It's a lot of German and Italian, though, as far as I know.

00:06:50.000 All right.

00:06:51.000 Now, Tyler, pressure's on.

00:06:53.000 Even though I'm in London, I'm actually drinking one of my favorite Chinese drinks.

00:06:57.000 This is coconut milk.

00:06:58.000 So we're drinking coconut milk tonight.

00:07:00.000 Oh, lovely.

00:07:01.000 All right, Tyler, pressure's on.

00:07:03.000 You have your topic you wanted to talk about, and it involves the state of Arizona, which is a state near and dear to your heart because, unlike all the rest of us, you're actually from here.

00:07:12.000 Well, it's also on the heels of the.

00:07:17.000 The Tyler Robinson stuff last week.

00:07:19.000 I mean, this stuff is serious.

00:07:21.000 Let's throw up the Arizona Central article.

00:07:24.000 I think we have it, right?

00:07:25.000 Yeah, number one for B roll.

00:07:26.000 Number one for B roll.

00:07:30.000 So, this is how the news reports things in Arizona.

00:07:34.000 Former Arizona political candidate Brianna Westbrook is accused of burglary.

00:07:41.000 Okay, what a delightfully vague headline.

00:07:43.000 What a delightfully vague headline.

00:07:45.000 So, the real title is that.

00:07:49.000 The former chair, vice chair of the Democrat Party that's trans.

00:07:55.000 So, this is actually a man that is.

00:07:59.000 Brianna, was it Brian?

00:08:01.000 I don't even know.

00:08:02.000 I didn't even get deep enough to find out what his original name was.

00:08:07.000 But Brianna is a man.

00:08:09.000 I'm guessing it's probably a Brian.

00:08:12.000 It went to his ex.

00:08:15.000 He thinks he's a lesbian because this is his whole thing.

00:08:20.000 And I don't even know if we.

00:08:21.000 Did we pull up the website?

00:08:25.000 I don't think so.

00:08:25.000 Tell us where to go and we can get it real quick.

00:08:28.000 So this is crazy stuff.

00:08:31.000 So that's a dude.

00:08:33.000 So we're showing you.

00:08:34.000 You can guess which one's the dude.

00:08:36.000 He's been, he was the vice chair of the Democrat Party in Arizona, pictured here with Kamala Harris, and is now a, has quit.

00:08:50.000 So he's no longer the vice chair of the Democrat Party.

00:08:52.000 But this was literally someone that got elected as the leader of the Democrat Party and was caught this week, was arrested for going to his lover's or somebody's.

00:09:05.000 A former lover's house.

00:09:07.000 It's not super clear.

00:09:09.000 At knife point.

00:09:10.000 And Burglars had a knife.

00:09:12.000 So, did they.

00:09:13.000 They stole stuff, but they were carrying a knife?

00:09:14.000 Did they threaten someone with a knife?

00:09:17.000 We don't know yet, but we know a knife was involved. 1.00

00:09:20.000 So, this unhinged trans man that's pretending to be a woman shows up at knife point. 1.00

00:09:28.000 This was a candidate for the legislature this last time around. 1.00

00:09:34.000 After that, Elected him to be the vice chair.

00:09:37.000 So that's like the second in command for the entire Democrat Party in the state of Arizona.

00:09:42.000 You can see here, it was prominent enough to be photographed with Kamala Harris during the election.

00:09:46.000 I mean, this is crazy stuff.

00:09:49.000 Like, totally crazy stuff. 0.99

00:09:51.000 Wait, so is the lever a dude or a woman? 0.70

00:09:55.000 My understanding is it's a woman.

00:09:56.000 So it gets crazier. 1.00

00:09:58.000 Okay.

00:09:58.000 So somebody posted, so I posted about this.

00:10:01.000 I was like, this is crazy.

00:10:02.000 How crazy is it that we don't even, like, you have to say, My understanding.

00:10:08.000 This is something that in normal crimes would just be sort of like a routine fact that, okay, this was this type of person.

00:10:15.000 We need the Daily Mail.

00:10:19.000 Sorry, it's just like. 1.00

00:10:20.000 Jack, you're in the UK.

00:10:22.000 Jack, you're in the UK.

00:10:23.000 You need to ask the Daily Mail to write an article about this so we can actually get the useful information about this person in an article that we can read.

00:10:29.000 This gets crazier.

00:10:30.000 Yeah, when I go to Daily Mail, it defaults to the UK edition, which is just horrible.

00:10:36.000 Horrible.

00:10:37.000 It must be terrible.

00:10:39.000 It's really bad.

00:10:40.000 So, if we can pull up HarleyDevil.com, I don't know if we can pull that up.

00:10:45.000 Oh, here it is.

00:10:46.000 Yep.

00:10:49.000 So, apparently.

00:10:50.000 Wait, is that him again?

00:10:51.000 Yeah.

00:10:52.000 So, he has an entire only fan. 1.00

00:10:54.000 Giant fake breasts. 0.96

00:10:56.000 If you go to the website, you can scroll through this. 1.00

00:10:58.000 You got to see the whole thing.

00:10:59.000 So, I don't know if we can pull up the whole website.

00:11:00.000 Just go to HarleyDevil.com.

00:11:02.000 I don't know if we can pull that up on somebody's computer.

00:11:04.000 Your favorite villain.

00:11:07.000 Your worst obsession.

00:11:08.000 So, if you go to HarleyDevil.

00:11:10.000 You know, don't do this around children.

00:11:13.000 You have to type in your birth date first so you can even access this website. 1.00

00:11:17.000 Harley DeVille is a post op trans woman, queer performer, and dark feminine force of nature. 0.95

00:11:25.000 Her work blends erotic art, gothic glamour, seduction, and unapologetic self expression. 0.72

00:11:34.000 She performs solo and with select collaborators, creating scenes rooted in chemistry, consent, fantasy.

00:11:44.000 And raw visual intensity.

00:11:47.000 I've got to like replace this laptop now, Tyler.

00:11:50.000 You're never going to be the same.

00:11:51.000 You're probably going to have cookies attached to your computer.

00:11:54.000 But this, if we can pull up this one, you got to see this is like disgusting stuff.

00:12:00.000 He has OnlyFans.

00:12:02.000 He is on Instagram, Twitter, like not very many followers, TikTok.

00:12:07.000 I mean, this was the vice chair of the entire Democrat Party for the state of Arizona.

00:12:14.000 That has won both Senate seats, that currently has the governorship here in Arizona.

00:12:19.000 So you're saying is that despite all of this, he was pretty good at it?

00:12:24.000 This is who they elected.

00:12:26.000 This is like who you're getting in Arizona.

00:12:28.000 People don't believe me when they say, like, We have literally, like, yeah, again, please don't open this up around kids.

00:12:34.000 Like, this will, like, literally mentally mess them up, like, for the future here.

00:12:38.000 But this is what you get with Democrats now. 0.97

00:12:42.000 The Democrat Party has gone full trans. 1.00

00:12:44.000 They've gone full, you know, screw up. 0.98

00:12:45.000 But this isn't the thing is the handles on these things. 1.00

00:12:48.000 This isn't just your normal run of the mill cross dressing, you know, have fun, mess around, like, messed up gay guy. 0.97

00:12:58.000 This is literally, A person who thinks he's a lesbian. 1.00

00:13:04.000 He is a Satan worshiper. 0.99

00:13:06.000 His name's Harley Devil or Harley Devil, right? 0.98

00:13:09.000 Whatever he's called himself.

00:13:11.000 And on his screen names are like Harley Devil 666.

00:13:14.000 This is a Satan worshipping, straight up off the rocker.

00:13:19.000 It pops up, join the dark side.

00:13:21.000 It's really creepy stuff.

00:13:22.000 So you're saying that median Democrat voter 2026.

00:13:26.000 This is the middle of the road for the Democrat Party now.

00:13:31.000 This guy might be wrong.

00:13:31.000 This person got a lot of.

00:13:33.000 We can't get the reporters to report on it.

00:13:37.000 Did they know this?

00:13:38.000 There's not a single.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, I was texting with the main journalist.

00:13:41.000 When he got elected vice chair, did they know this?

00:13:44.000 I was texting with one of the main political reporters at the Arizona Republic today, just making fun of him all day because I was like, you guys aren't even reporting on any of this stuff.

00:13:56.000 You guys write anytime that somebody coughs the wrong way as a Republican, you guys write headline stories.

00:14:03.000 You guys aren't writing headline stories on any of this stuff.

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00:15:08.000 This is wild.

00:15:09.000 Have we shown the mugshot yet?

00:15:11.000 It's pretty remarkable.

00:15:12.000 Can we take this down?

00:15:14.000 I don't want to see it.

00:15:14.000 Yeah, take that down.

00:15:15.000 I sent you guys the mugshot because that's a very funny one.

00:15:17.000 It's evil stuff.

00:15:19.000 I'm looking at how other, like, I will say TV news.

00:15:22.000 Charlie would be the one.

00:15:23.000 TV local news is a lot better than newspapers in terms of being honest with things.

00:15:27.000 I'm checking KTAR, which is one of our.

00:15:30.000 No, but nobody's reported on this Harley DeVille stuff.

00:15:34.000 No one's talked about any of this.

00:15:35.000 No one's hardly even reported that this person's trans.

00:15:38.000 They're like, oh, Brianna, she's wonderful.

00:15:40.000 Oh. 1.00

00:15:41.000 Darn her for committing burglary. 1.00

00:15:43.000 Like, Westbrook helped organize the 2019 Women's March in Phoenix. 1.00

00:15:49.000 She organized the Women's March during her initial court appearance. 0.97

00:15:53.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:15:56.000 Are trans an ally of women in that case?

00:16:00.000 Or are you a woman? 0.99

00:16:03.000 I can't keep up. 1.00

00:16:03.000 No, she's. 1.00

00:16:05.000 This, he is such an ally of women, thinks he's a lesbian, such an ally of women.

00:16:14.000 He's showing up to what I presume is another woman's house with a knife.

00:16:18.000 So this is what you get with.

00:16:20.000 Do we understand that?

00:16:21.000 Do we know the backstory?

00:16:23.000 Was this just domestic violence?

00:16:24.000 Was this like a.

00:16:25.000 I don't think it's been investigated.

00:16:26.000 Do we know the details?

00:16:27.000 I don't think it's been investigated yet.

00:16:29.000 We just know that he got arrested for showing up with a knife to an ex's place.

00:16:36.000 It's insane.

00:16:37.000 So, we're probably going to get some kind of body cam footage.

00:16:40.000 We're probably going to get.

00:16:42.000 So, this is a nightmare for Democrats in Arizona because, again, this is the reason why they don't want to report on it because there's going to be body cam footage.

00:16:49.000 I'm sure there's ring camera footage.

00:16:51.000 There's going to be some kind of case that goes on with this.

00:16:54.000 And whoever the poor woman is that got in this relationship with this guy, You know, I feel so bad for her, right?

00:17:01.000 Like, and maybe it's another trans man.

00:17:03.000 I don't know.

00:17:04.000 But, like, let's. 0.99

00:17:06.000 I mean, if you're associating with somebody with this much mental illness, then you're probably mentally ill, too. 0.94

00:17:12.000 So you could look at that one or two ways. 0.96

00:17:14.000 I like the K tar. 0.98

00:17:14.000 You know, I've thought about that, Andrew, and that's like a thought. 0.98

00:17:18.000 K tar.

00:17:20.000 I don't know.

00:17:20.000 I don't listen to the radio.

00:17:21.000 So K tar. 0.98

00:17:21.000 I love the K tar. 0.98

00:17:22.000 I love the K tar. 0.92

00:17:23.000 Sorry about it. 1.00

00:17:24.000 Their write up has a very funny line at the end.

00:17:26.000 During her initial court appearance, Westbrook told the judge she, he, had never been arrested before.

00:17:33.000 Even though she wrote a 2018 blog post about being arrested.

00:17:37.000 And it's an ACLU blog post.

00:17:39.000 Law enforcement mistreated me because I'm transgender.

00:17:43.000 I was arrested.

00:17:44.000 This guy got arrested for trespassing at Senator Jeff Flake's office in Phoenix and got arrested for that.

00:17:53.000 And the charge against him was later dropped.

00:17:55.000 What's that?

00:17:56.000 The funny part about that is now.

00:17:58.000 This same Prince, dude.

00:18:03.000 People, I mean, Jeff Flake might. 0.89

00:18:04.000 I mean, Jeff Flake might even soon be, you know, another trans woman who could get burglarized. 0.99

00:18:10.000 Sorry, I disavow. 0.99

00:18:11.000 I shouldn't say that.

00:18:12.000 I don't know any evidence.

00:18:13.000 I have a minorly soft spot in my heart because he was one of the few people who absolutely hate us that reached out after Charlie was okay.

00:18:22.000 That's good.

00:18:23.000 Okay, I fully disavow that mean thing I said about Jeff Flake.

00:18:27.000 I've been cautious to attack Jeff Flake just because of that, even though he'd be.

00:18:30.000 I think Jeff Flake, yeah, I think Jeff Flake has low T.

00:18:34.000 I think Pete Hegseth would like to have a word with Jeff Flake.

00:18:37.000 All right, Jack, sorry.

00:18:39.000 I know you're trying to get in there. 0.66

00:18:40.000 But no, I was going to say that this would actually be extremely on brand for a lesbian because if we're ready to really get into thought crimes, that according to the CDC in multiple reports, the lifetime physical violence by an intimate partner, the highest percentage is with lesbian couples. 0.99

00:19:05.000 Yeah, that is true. 1.00

00:19:07.000 That is accurate.

00:19:08.000 And they have the highest breakups, too.

00:19:12.000 Yep. 0.90

00:19:12.000 Because so, the number one, the worst combination that people have shown, and I don't believe this totally because they say that men stay together, like two gay men stay together longer than male female combinations now. 0.90

00:19:27.000 But by wide margin, lesbian couples have the most tumult in their relationships. 0.93

00:19:34.000 All right, we got a real quick.

00:19:36.000 We got a donation from Zuzu's Petals.

00:19:38.000 Thank you.

00:19:39.000 $5.

00:19:39.000 And she says, Everything I am seeing about this person makes me want to scrub my eyeballs so I can unsee it.

00:19:47.000 It is literally one of the worst things that's going on.

00:19:52.000 It's interesting.

00:19:52.000 No one's talking about this.

00:19:54.000 That's what I was going to say.

00:19:55.000 The craziest thing is that this is so not reported yet.

00:19:59.000 I think we can get some people to report this.

00:20:02.000 I'm going to send this segment to a couple people.

00:20:05.000 People complain that local news is dying out.

00:20:07.000 And I think this is a large part of it you'll have these libs who are working at the Arizona Republic, and they'll complain nobody reads local news anymore.

00:20:14.000 No one's supporting their local newspapers. 1.00

00:20:16.000 And then they just actively refuse to cover the things that would totally get them eyeballs like insane, weird, transgender person. 1.00

00:20:27.000 Who's a Democrat, burglarizes their lover or something like this is free content. 1.00

00:20:31.000 You should be milking this for all it's worth.

00:20:34.000 And they refuse to do so.

00:20:35.000 And then they complain.

00:20:38.000 I feel like there's a bunch of jokes in there.

00:20:39.000 But yes, Tyler, thank you for raising this to the fore.

00:20:43.000 And we can't let it go.

00:20:45.000 I want to bring this up because I got to talk about on the show.

00:20:48.000 Like, there's going to be lots of things that happen with this because this isn't just like some rando candidate that the Democrats can disavow.

00:20:56.000 They elected. him to be the vice chair of the Democrat Party for multiple years.

00:21:03.000 When did said, when did said trans person stop being a vice chair?

00:21:09.000 I don't know.

00:21:09.000 I don't know the exact timeline.

00:21:11.000 I think it was sometime, I think it was after 2025.

00:21:13.000 So I think it was sometime last year, but it was for two years.

00:21:16.000 So but relatively recently, this person was the vice chair of the Democrat Party.

00:21:19.000 Yeah.

00:21:20.000 He was the vice chair of the Democrat Party.

00:21:23.000 I wonder when he transitioned.

00:21:25.000 A while ago, and he's already, 2018.

00:21:28.000 In 2018, they have a photo of him And he definitely looks much more, uh, dude who grew his hair long compared to recent ones, which seem much more, yeah, operative, for lack of a better word.

00:21:44.000 Operative is actually the word, yeah, you're right.

00:21:45.000 It's probably operations, operative is literally the word, actually, exactly.

00:21:50.000 Before we move on to the next thing, how excited are you about the?

00:21:52.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:21:56.000 Are we changing topics?

00:21:57.000 Well, I was gonna say if before we semi move on to the next topic, I was gonna ask if he's excited about the New York Post writing up his other, uh, His other bete noir in Arizona politics, Ruben Gallego.

00:22:08.000 Did you see that?

00:22:10.000 Ruben Gallego.

00:22:11.000 I'm cautious to talk about it until more stuff comes out because.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, I think they need.

00:22:16.000 I mean, I think we need more on that.

00:22:19.000 I think we need more.

00:22:20.000 But no, Tyler, I was going to ask.

00:22:21.000 All I said.

00:22:23.000 Yeah.

00:22:24.000 Oh, go ahead, Jack.

00:22:25.000 No, I was going to ask if you're.

00:22:27.000 So if you're, I mean, maybe this is just a broader question for everyone, but, you know, if you're a Democrat and you get elected as one gender.

00:22:38.000 And then at some point, you transition to another gender and also change your name, and you say, This is actually my real identity.

00:22:47.000 Then, would there be a question that your election to government was actually, therefore, invalid because you actually weren't elected?

00:22:59.000 It was somebody else who was elected.

00:23:00.000 I mean, I think that you should be able to make that case, right?

00:23:03.000 I wish we could make that case because then we could bring it against all the Republicans who run as one thing and then become a bunch of eunuchs in DC.

00:23:11.000 Because there are certainly spiritual eunuchs as well as quite literal physical ones who run OnlyFans.

00:23:17.000 All right.

00:23:18.000 That was fun.

00:23:19.000 Glad we got it.

00:23:19.000 And we can wait on more stuff to come out about Ruben.

00:23:22.000 So then we can get a second Tyler topic.

00:23:25.000 Did we get this clip?

00:23:26.000 Did we get this clip that I found today?

00:23:30.000 Before we lose off the trans topic, I believe we do have this loaded.

00:23:35.000 So I'm over here in the UK and it came across. 1.00

00:23:38.000 So there was a murder in the UK, this beautiful.

00:23:43.000 Woman, this older woman, Ann Whitacombe, she's a former conservative MP.

00:23:47.000 She's been serving as a spokeswoman for reform, Nigel Farage's party, and she was murdered in her home, bludgeoned to death in her own kitchen in the countryside in Devon.

00:23:59.000 And we're, you know, at first they said, oh, it's not political, it's not political.

00:24:04.000 But then we found out that the suspect drove 300 miles to get to her house and then drove all the way back, which is a little bit odd if it's just a burglary or something.

00:24:14.000 And now the police are actually investigating it as.

00:24:19.000 Political and uh, you know, remains to be seen, obviously.

00:24:23.000 Caveat, caveat, but there was a uh, a trans um, I guess MP that you know that they have from Scotland who was just trashing Ann. 0.99

00:24:36.000 I said, Oh my gosh, I can't believe this! 0.95

00:24:37.000 And then I saw that this trans had also made some comments about Charlie, and I had never even heard of this.

00:24:46.000 And you know, maybe it's something that had gone viral, you know, kind of in the wake of that when we were all sort of um.

00:24:52.000 You know, we were sort of obviously otherwise occupied.

00:24:54.000 But guys, I saw it, so you have to see it.

00:24:58.000 You know the rules.

00:25:00.000 It's SOT 24.

00:25:02.000 Charlie Kirk was a transphobe.

00:25:05.000 Possibly one of the biggest transphobes in America. 1.00

00:25:10.000 He was a right wing idiot, basically. 1.00

00:25:15.000 He died spreading misinformation about trans people and gun violence. 1.00

00:25:26.000 He would not mourn my death at all, and I don't mourn his.

00:25:34.000 That's not to say that I want people to die.

00:25:38.000 I didn't want him to die.

00:25:41.000 But since somebody shot him, I don't really care. 0.96

00:25:45.000 And to the fake liberals who are, oh, oh no, how dare you?

00:25:56.000 The poor, he's a human, don't you know? 0.76

00:26:02.000 So, we have a trans problem in this country, in this world. 1.00

00:26:05.000 Yeah, and that's Scott. 1.00

00:26:06.000 So, that was, and I just want to make be clear what I said.

00:26:09.000 This is a former Scottish Green candidate for Member of Parliament and currently an employee, of course, at the University of Aberdeen.

00:26:18.000 Works in higher education.

00:26:21.000 There you go.

00:26:23.000 Teachers and nurses, like, it's, I don't know what it is, like a moth to the flame, but it's like crazy radicals are just drawn to these two professions.

00:26:32.000 And I will never really fully understand why. 0.92

00:26:35.000 I have my theories, but it's like, man, be careful when you're talking to nurses and teachers, professors, because 50% odds you're talking to a lunatic.

00:26:45.000 That's basically where I put it at.

00:26:47.000 And we have a lot of great nurses and there's a lot of great teachers. 0.94

00:26:50.000 So it's one of those things where it's like, we need these people, but man, those professions are chock full of crazy people.

00:26:58.000 I think the more blunt answer to that is those are nurses and teachers are positions that there's a ton of them.

00:27:04.000 And they're just demanding enough that those people are going to have like verbal acuity to post things online that are annoying. 1.00

00:27:12.000 And they're hard to fire.

00:27:13.000 Teachers, they get tenure, they can say insane things.

00:27:17.000 But if you try to fire them, they get six figure settlements for it.

00:27:20.000 Nurses, there's always hospitals.

00:27:22.000 You know what you're about to do?

00:27:23.000 You always go to a new place. 1.00

00:27:26.000 Well, that's true about nurses.

00:27:27.000 But the, remember that professor at the Nathan Hale School District in Chicago that did the like gesture during the No Kings March? 1.00

00:27:37.000 Pretty sure that woman's still employed. 0.99

00:27:40.000 We've got to get her name. 1.00

00:27:41.000 I forgot her name.

00:27:42.000 But we, we, I like every so often I tweet about it just to make sure she knows I remember her because it was so obscene.

00:27:48.000 And the fact that she's still around kids.

00:27:51.000 Yeah.

00:27:52.000 So I think she's still around kids.

00:27:54.000 My theory on the teachers and nurses is because obviously there are some people who are attracted to it because they actually want to help others, and those are the best ones.

00:28:03.000 Yes.

00:28:04.000 No question.

00:28:05.000 But there's also a subset of people who are attracted to those positions because they give you power over others.

00:28:13.000 And in both cases, power over people who can't do anything about it.

00:28:20.000 A patient obviously is inherently going to be somewhat limited, and a child, right?

00:28:27.000 And so a lot of it has to do with projection because you look at some of those people in their personal lives and they're so horrible.

00:28:34.000 And these are the people who have their apartments are cluttered and filled with insanity, and their personal lives are usually an absolute.

00:28:45.000 Brain wreck.

00:28:47.000 And then because they can't control themselves and can't control their own lives, what they do is they seek out these positions where they can have these little modicums of control over others and they become these petty tyrants.

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00:29:58.000 All right.

00:29:58.000 We got Zuzu.

00:29:59.000 She says, I want to scrub my eyeballs again. 0.90

00:30:03.000 Thank you, Jack.

00:30:06.000 Hey, you know the rules.

00:30:06.000 You guys know the rules.

00:30:07.000 All right.

00:30:08.000 I don't make the rules.

00:30:09.000 I just enforce them.

00:30:10.000 I saw it, so you have to see it.

00:30:11.000 I had to bring it to the boys.

00:30:14.000 I remember when I was a.

00:30:16.000 I took my family on a vacation.

00:30:17.000 This is years ago now.

00:30:18.000 And I think I'd actually told this story once before, so I'll keep it brief.

00:30:21.000 But.

00:30:21.000 Took him on a vacation to Hawaii, and I was listening to some people from Texas that were in the pool, just overhearing them.

00:30:28.000 And the young woman, she must have been 22, something like that, was telling this older couple, The reason I got into teaching is because I want to turn them into communists.

00:30:36.000 Like I heard her saying it out loud, and she looked like a total radical leftist floating in a pool, enjoying the fruits of capitalism.

00:30:46.000 And she said, Yeah, that's why I got into it.

00:30:48.000 They get really excited when they have a new guy with Blake walk in because he looks like Vladimir Lenin.

00:30:52.000 Something like that. 0.84

00:30:53.000 But the Blake Sheviks, the Nephilim, they're all lining up. 1.00

00:30:56.000 All right. 0.98

00:30:56.000 Speaking of the Nephilim, speaking of the Nephilim, I am imposing topic two on us because I am excited for this. 0.98

00:31:03.000 JD Vance, we talked a lot on the show earlier today about what Vance had to say about Epstein and Israel and a variety of other things.

00:31:11.000 But we need to get into the best part of Vice President Vance's conversation with Joe Rogan, which is when they started talking about aliens and if they are.

00:31:22.000 Demons.

00:31:23.000 We have a kind of long warm up clip here, but I think it's pretty important to set the stage.

00:31:27.000 We can show some others, but let's just dive into it.

00:31:30.000 JD Vance, he gets confronted with Are the aliens demons?

00:31:34.000 Clip six.

00:31:36.000 You said something that I thought was very odd.

00:31:38.000 Okay.

00:31:38.000 You said that you thought that they were demons.

00:31:45.000 Okay, I did say that.

00:31:47.000 What did you mean by that?

00:31:48.000 Well, I. First of all, not just in Christianity, but in a number of world religions, there are a number of, like, you know, mystical things that happened, extra dimensional, extra.

00:32:07.000 Like, I'm not one of these people who's like a hyper rationalist.

00:32:11.000 Like, I think that there are things happening in the world that we're not always seeing.

00:32:15.000 I, you know, I believe in God.

00:32:16.000 I think that there is a kind of what's the word I'm looking for?

00:32:19.000 Not extra real.

00:32:22.000 Supernatural.

00:32:23.000 There are supernatural things that are happening.

00:32:24.000 Okay.

00:32:26.000 So, if you look historically at, you know, things that are similar to the alien phenomenon, where, oh, some like strange being, it kind of looks like a human being, but doesn't look like, but's not human, and it kind of, Shows a particular interest in human beings, and then it takes the human beings and, you know, like does weird experiments on them. 0.94

00:32:53.000 I think my argument is that's either bullshit, right? 0.77

00:32:55.000 You're either talking to a crazy person, which I don't like, I'm not saying just because I believe in the supernatural doesn't mean I believe in everything supernatural. 0.99

00:33:03.000 But if we're talking about an extraterrestrial being that is human like but not human, that contains effectively infinite powers and is torturing human beings.

00:33:18.000 You can call it an alien if you want, but I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon.

00:33:24.000 All right.

00:33:24.000 Well, one, while we were listening to that, one of our co hosts, Tyler, he's disappeared.

00:33:32.000 He may have been left behind.

00:33:34.000 There was a big beam of light.

00:33:37.000 Yeah.

00:33:37.000 Big beam of light.

00:33:38.000 Came down.

00:33:42.000 He's gone.

00:33:44.000 He's gone.

00:33:45.000 Where'd he go?

00:33:46.000 We don't know.

00:33:47.000 He's out.

00:33:48.000 Tyler out.

00:33:49.000 Which is.

00:33:49.000 We'll have to get to the bottom of this.

00:33:51.000 But while we wait and investigate and maybe have one of our staffers seek out whether Tyler is still with us or not, what do we make of that?

00:33:59.000 We actually have other people that don't want to.

00:34:02.000 Caboose, do we have eyes on Tyler?

00:34:04.000 Pretty sure Tyler got zapped.

00:34:06.000 Oh, gosh.

00:34:06.000 He's gone.

00:34:08.000 He's gone.

00:34:10.000 He's with them.

00:34:11.000 I like to test Caboose to make sure he's on the ball.

00:34:15.000 Wait, can we just get Russ in or something?

00:34:19.000 Terrible.

00:34:20.000 We've got Tyler needs to be careful.

00:34:21.000 Whoa, what's that?

00:34:22.000 Oh, the light.

00:34:23.000 It's too bright.

00:34:24.000 Ah, I can't.

00:34:26.000 I can't look at it.

00:34:27.000 Oh, did they?

00:34:28.000 Did they?

00:34:29.000 He's back.

00:34:29.000 Wait, he's back.

00:34:30.000 Wait, hold on.

00:34:31.000 Hold on.

00:34:33.000 What happened?

00:34:34.000 Do we know?

00:34:35.000 Wait a minute.

00:34:35.000 Do we know that this is the real Tyler?

00:34:38.000 Do we have any way to verify?

00:34:40.000 Tell us something.

00:34:40.000 Only the real Tyler Boyer would know.

00:34:42.000 Did they probe you?

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 Did they probe you, Tyler?

00:34:45.000 If I had an identical twin, how cool that would be to go in and out.

00:34:50.000 That's true.

00:34:50.000 That's the exact code phrase Tyler said we had to see if he was abducted by a body snatcher or not.

00:34:55.000 So it's the real Tyler.

00:34:56.000 You know what's funny?

00:34:57.000 He disappeared for a bit.

00:34:58.000 You know what's funny?

00:34:59.000 I have like one of the most forgettable faces.

00:35:00.000 People can never remember me, ever, ever.

00:35:03.000 Ooh.

00:35:04.000 Careful with that one.

00:35:05.000 But anyway, no.

00:35:07.000 Intelligence agencies love this.

00:35:08.000 Now that we have Tyler back, we can probe whether you just got probed in a second.

00:35:12.000 But we just saw JD Vance basically said I know.

00:35:16.000 Maybe there are aliens out there, they might be celestial beings.

00:35:21.000 Of some kind, and that's the vice president of the United States.

00:35:23.000 Well, I agree with his premise on the biggest podcast ever.

00:35:26.000 I agree with his premise.

00:35:27.000 You agree?

00:35:28.000 Listen, I think the far more likely scenario than flying saucers and tractor beams is literally just demonic presence.

00:35:39.000 But you'd have to be a theist to believe that, which I happen to be.

00:35:41.000 So I have a question for Jack on the intelligence side of things.

00:35:47.000 There are levels, right?

00:35:50.000 So there are things that the president knows that the vice president doesn't know, like whether the atomic bomb exists.

00:35:57.000 Right?

00:36:02.000 So, I mean, it's levels is the wrong way to think about it.

00:36:06.000 If you want to be like, I don't know if we're being tongue in cheek right now or not, but like, it's not levels, it's compartments, right?

00:36:13.000 It's literally like which, you know.

00:36:16.000 So, there's some compartments that the vice president doesn't have access to.

00:36:19.000 It's like, it's not even that.

00:36:21.000 It's like, which cup is the ball under, right?

00:36:23.000 So, it's way deeper than that.

00:36:26.000 It's this idea that there are offices in one part of the building that are working on one program.

00:36:32.000 That nobody else knows about.

00:36:34.000 There could be two or three people who know about that specific read in and who have access to that specific ACCM.

00:36:41.000 And then there'll be people on like two cubicles away from them that don't even know about it and are working on their other thing.

00:36:48.000 So the idea that the president would even be read in at all would only come up if something broached the level of needing some type, if it needed some kind of presidential authority or finding, or really if it got public.

00:37:06.000 The way the.

00:37:09.000 This is like the guy who stole like 40 million in gold or gold bars from the CIA or something and claimed that he was working on a black operation. 0.56

00:37:17.000 So it's, again, it's just like Russian nesting dolls, one upon another.

00:37:24.000 And I don't think there's any one person who actually knows everything the government is doing. 0.89

00:37:29.000 So what's interesting with.

00:37:30.000 That's like Dance on Rim.

00:37:32.000 I'm saying that as a guy who actually tried to understand how all of this works and went into that world.

00:37:38.000 I think that's probably the best way I can put it.

00:37:40.000 What's interesting with Vance on Rogan is he, I think he throws this out there, maybe thinking this is something that Rogan's going to really agree on.

00:37:47.000 But actually, Rogan pushes back and it's kind of like, I'm not sure I follow this, Mr. Vice President.

00:37:53.000 This is an interesting clip.

00:37:54.000 Clip seven. 0.99

00:37:56.000 This could all be bullshit. 1.00

00:37:57.000 This could all be fake. 1.00

00:37:59.000 That's a possibility.

00:38:00.000 But if it's real, is there really a meaningful difference between an angel or a demon and a space alien with super technology?

00:38:11.000 I just, to our perception, They would largely just look like the same thing.

00:38:15.000 I think we're capable of nuance.

00:38:17.000 We're capable of understanding that human beings are far more complex and evolved than chimpanzees.

00:38:23.000 And we could imagine a world where if we don't blow ourselves up and there's not a nuclear bomb and we don't get hit by an asteroid, if we live another million years, that we would have technology that's indistinguishable from magic.

00:38:41.000 Right?

00:38:41.000 Exactly.

00:38:42.000 That's exactly what I'm saying.

00:38:43.000 And then we could show angels and demons.

00:38:45.000 It just means they're.

00:38:47.000 Hyper evolved advanced civilizations from somewhere else, and what I'm saying is the perception of those beings to a more simple intelligence sure, there's not a meaningful difference.

00:39:04.000 So, first, someone in the chat says Tyler definitely got probed.

00:39:08.000 Second, uh, Kyrie in the chat is a little traumatized because Vice President Vance has said the word BS twice, he's clearly enjoying the slightly uh.

00:39:18.000 Less PG atmosphere of going on the Joe Rogan experience.

00:39:22.000 But third, just, I don't know.

00:39:25.000 It strikes me as really interesting that you have the vice president sort of just wildly speculating on angels and demons and aliens.

00:39:35.000 And I kind of get that it's interesting.

00:39:38.000 Although I also, maybe this is fuddy duddy of me.

00:39:42.000 I don't know if the vice president should be talking about that. 1.00

00:39:46.000 It's going to drive a lot of people like really gaga, I think. 0.90

00:39:49.000 They're going to be like, is he paving the way for them to reveal the aliens to us?

00:39:53.000 Is he paving the way for them to reveal.

00:39:55.000 The demons to us.

00:39:57.000 We hear a lot of demon talk these days, and I'm not sure that it's been that good for the right for us to be talking about demons all of the time.

00:40:06.000 Am I alone on this one?

00:40:08.000 Are people pro demon talk?

00:40:13.000 I don't think that it's something that's going to cause a political issue, if that's what you're saying, that it's going to drive people to be upset or something.

00:40:25.000 I think it's one of those things that.

00:40:28.000 Um, you know, that it does, it certainly does very well in the podcast sphere.

00:40:31.000 I think it's a very interesting, like we're doing right now.

00:40:35.000 And I think it's something that uh, people have a genuine interest in.

00:40:41.000 Um, I don't know, I don't know if it has any political ramifications, if that's what you're asking.

00:40:48.000 Um, the question is, it's because it's more like it's more like, and and you know, there are probably a good amount of people in the base that certainly agree with it.

00:41:01.000 So, yeah, the question is, is it real?

00:41:03.000 Like, is it truthful?

00:41:05.000 And if JD's being truthful, I mean, Blake, I think your point is like, is he going to rile up a bunch of crazy on the internet and, you know, cause them to spiral out of control and we're going to just get more crazy conspiratorial nonsense?

00:41:16.000 I don't know.

00:41:17.000 That's possible.

00:41:18.000 But what I would say is, like, I actually, as somebody who agrees with what he's saying, that the more plausible answer is that there are spiritual beings, whether they are of light or of dark, that sometimes appear to man.

00:41:31.000 And we see that through scripture that.

00:41:32.000 Angels do appear to man from time to time.

00:41:34.000 And maybe, you know, the higher up in the atmosphere that we have aircraft, the more we're going to encounter celestial beings.

00:41:43.000 I don't know.

00:41:43.000 But the question, my point is like, I actually find that to be a more plausible answer.

00:41:47.000 And if that's what he believes the truth, then yeah.

00:41:49.000 But yeah, is it sort of revealing how little we maybe know?

00:41:55.000 You know, maybe he's, by speculating, he's sort of the big tell is we're clueless about this stuff actually.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, maybe that's, maybe that's a.

00:42:04.000 I think there's.

00:42:05.000 Charlie and I have told this story slightly.

00:42:08.000 We alluded to it that we were shared some information at some point that led us to believe that aliens are a real thing.

00:42:18.000 So take that for what it's worth, right?

00:42:22.000 At this point, there's been enough talk about it.

00:42:24.000 I'm a big believer Trump's probably going to want to go down as the guy before he leaves office that exposes a lot of truth on the whole alien thing.

00:42:34.000 It feels very Trumpian.

00:42:36.000 And I would, I mean, look, if you're president.

00:42:39.000 You want to be the guy that's remembered for the rest of human history.

00:42:43.000 I mean, what do you got to lose at that point, right?

00:42:44.000 Like, get into your 80s.

00:42:47.000 Like, who cares?

00:42:48.000 Like, you know something.

00:42:51.000 Everybody, the whole world is like pressed up against you, telling you that you can't tell everyone because they're not sure what it'll do to the markets or whatever.

00:43:00.000 Like, he's probably going to do it.

00:43:02.000 Like, so, you know, if this thing is real, which we think it is, and enough people have talked about it, I think there's a really good chance.

00:43:10.000 In 2027, late or early, or mid 2028, we'll probably hear something more concrete.

00:43:19.000 Now, the question is, what are the repercussions of that?

00:43:23.000 So, there's speculation that aliens are real, and there's a lot of different viewpoints of this.

00:43:30.000 It's like they're angels, they're demons, they're us that have gone outside the time warp.

00:43:37.000 They're us that have traveled into the past to come back to the present.

00:43:39.000 Well, it's like the interstellar thing, right?

00:43:42.000 Which is like they've advanced like five, 10,000 years beyond outside.

00:43:48.000 You know, and in a different time, and then they've traveled back.

00:43:52.000 And so that's part of it.

00:43:54.000 Whatever the answer is, all I know is that I think it hasn't really shook my religion because I do believe kind of what JD is saying, which is that there's probably some really big thing that involves God where he will make these things known to us as he intends.

00:44:16.000 Right.

00:44:17.000 So, like, I'm a big believer in that.

00:44:20.000 And I think that that's the interesting part about this whole thing is like whatever happens over the next couple of years, or maybe it doesn't, maybe Trump, maybe I'm wrong, maybe Trump doesn't want to be the guy that's known forever as the president who unlocks aliens for the world.

00:44:32.000 But I think he is, but I think that that's it.

00:44:36.000 I think at the end of the day, this is really, I think people need to consider kind of along the lines of what JD's saying.

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00:46:09.000 Does that make sense?

00:46:10.000 Did you guys ever see The Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix?

00:46:13.000 No.

00:46:14.000 I don't.

00:46:14.000 Hosted by Graham Hancock, that British archaeologist.

00:46:17.000 I used to get a lot of links to the Netflix.

00:46:18.000 That's a demon in our lives.

00:46:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:21.000 He basically posits.

00:46:23.000 I've read most of his books.

00:46:24.000 Yeah.

00:46:26.000 Yeah, he basically posits that these ancient civilizations were.

00:46:32.000 Far more advanced than we realize, either through the archaeological record or whatever.

00:46:38.000 He brings up some interesting points, and his whole position is basically speculating whether or not there were aliens or time traveling humans that went back in time and helped them become far more advanced.

00:46:50.000 And then there was some great cataclysmic apocalypse, whether it be weather related or a comet or something that essentially stopped them in their tracks.

00:46:59.000 And it's taken this long for human civilization to.

00:47:02.000 Now advance up to that point and past it.

00:47:05.000 But it's what a lot of people believe.

00:47:08.000 And I think that's what Joe Rogan is kind of speculating.

00:47:10.000 By the way, Joe Rogan, when he starts talking about this stuff, it was like you could instantly see that JD Vance entered into Joe Rogan's wheelhouse and he's like, son, let me tell you about all of the UFO specialists that I've had on the show.

00:47:24.000 He had like some very, very authoritative statements there that he made.

00:47:29.000 But I don't know.

00:47:31.000 The point is time traveling humans, aliens, angels, or demons.

00:47:37.000 I mean, now that I think about it, the more I'm listening to what JD said, it Kind of made me feel like he's convinced there's something there that he's seen something, and that's actually the weirder take.

00:47:50.000 Like, I felt like listening back to that, he sees something.

00:47:54.000 Now, my hot take here, and I emphatically believe it, is we may get our government to come out and confirm that aliens are real, and yeah, as you said, 27, 28, maybe some future year after that, but it's not going to be because they are real, it's just going to be because we have too many people in government who drink the Kool Aid and get bamboozled by this stuff.

00:48:15.000 I think that's what it's going to be.

00:48:16.000 I think none of this evidence has ever held up.

00:48:19.000 People are just going loopy.

00:48:21.000 There was that clip they published just a few days ago that looked weird.

00:48:23.000 And then someone pointed out it looked like it was stretched horizontally.

00:48:27.000 And as soon as you compressed it a little bit to be more normal looking, like with its pixels, it just looks like a bunch of balloons floating through the air.

00:48:35.000 I just feel like that's what it is every single time.

00:48:38.000 But people really want to believe.

00:48:40.000 And so they're just going to be like, oh, it's real.

00:48:43.000 Yeah.

00:48:43.000 So, Blake, I'll just say this that.

00:48:46.000 I agree with you that most of the evidence that's come out does not seem very compelling to me.

00:48:51.000 And that, so I was on Air Force One when Peter Ducey asked the president that question about the UFOs.

00:49:01.000 And, you know, I've been with the president when I could tell when there's something that sort of excites him.

00:49:08.000 I could tell there's something that, like, it's a question he's into.

00:49:11.000 There's people who think that he's like this, you know, opaque, impossible to read guy.

00:49:15.000 And I actually have the totally opposite view.

00:49:17.000 I think he's pretty open about where he stands on things.

00:49:20.000 And, He's pretty vocal, obviously, on where he stands.

00:49:25.000 And it just seemed like a question that, or a topic that he was just not really that into.

00:49:31.000 It just seemed like something that he was, you know, hadn't given much thought to.

00:49:37.000 And, you know, he came up with an answer on the spot, which was a good answer, but it certainly wasn't something that, you know, he had on the tip of his tongue.

00:49:43.000 So I'm just going to say that having that firsthand observation, he did not really seem all that into it.

00:49:50.000 But he said, like, hey, you know, if people want these files, you know, sure, yeah, we'll release whatever you want.

00:49:55.000 Like, no problem.

00:49:56.000 So that's just what I remember from being there.

00:49:59.000 Somebody brought up.

00:50:00.000 All right.

00:50:01.000 Here's.

00:50:02.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:50:06.000 I put this in the chat.

00:50:07.000 I think that I want to say what I think, which is I think JD's right.

00:50:13.000 I don't think demons are aliens.

00:50:14.000 I think how we perceive maybe like angelic figures are aliens.

00:50:22.000 And because again.

00:50:23.000 So, wait, the aliens are angels or angels are.

00:50:26.000 Aliens.

00:50:27.000 Because there's a lot of different faith points around demons, but some people believe that demons can possess people, but they don't have their own bodies and physical nature, right?

00:50:38.000 That's generally what I believe.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, that's what I believe is that they never attained a body, but they exist.

00:50:45.000 Yeah, by the way, Tyler, I want to say, even though I had that experience with the president, I don't disagree with anything you're saying at all.

00:50:54.000 So I think demons exist that aren't aliens.

00:50:58.000 But I think that perceivably, angels that have been sent to Earth, which I totally believe has happened biblically and everything else, could be interdimensional.

00:51:09.000 That's interesting.

00:51:10.000 I think if I remember right, I watched the Jesus of Nazareth, that old classic miniseries from the 70s.

00:51:17.000 And if I remember right, that one portrays the Annunciation when Gabriel comes to Mary.

00:51:27.000 Yep.

00:51:28.000 And it portrays him as invisible to others.

00:51:31.000 Like, Mary can see Gabriel, but nobody else.

00:51:35.000 And that's kind of what gets me about this, is where they're saying this UFO phenomenon, like, it could be.

00:51:40.000 It could be angels, it could be heavenly phenomenon.

00:51:42.000 I guess if our idea of it is that it's supernatural, would it really like show up on our cameras like that?

00:51:50.000 It's just something I don't know, yeah.

00:51:54.000 I'll just tell you, I'll just tell you straight up that most of the stuff that people see over and like I'm I'm I just talked to you asking about the intel community before.

00:52:01.000 Like, most of the stuff that you see over the skies is just new technology that they have not made public yet.

00:52:09.000 That is that is the vast majority.

00:52:11.000 Of what's going on.

00:52:12.000 That was the New Jersey stuff.

00:52:14.000 And, you know, a lot of this is done in the contract world.

00:52:16.000 So they can come out and say, oh, that's not a, you know, those aren't government assets.

00:52:20.000 And it's like, well, yeah, because it's a contractor who has a government contract, right?

00:52:23.000 But it's, it's like that's, that's mostly what you're seeing is proprietary technology.

00:52:28.000 Well, and this is a really good point.

00:52:32.000 This is a really good point, Jack, because like you think about what's like the B 2 bomber, like, isn't that like 1980s technology or whatever?

00:52:39.000 So we're like maybe before that we start developing it.

00:52:43.000 Yeah, so they, yeah, what did I say?

00:52:46.000 Yeah, the stealth bomber.

00:52:48.000 Anyways, the point is, so that's 40 year old technology, right?

00:52:55.000 So maybe like 46 year old technology.

00:52:57.000 So we don't even know what they've been developing.

00:53:00.000 Like, what's five year old technology?

00:53:02.000 And, you know, for example, I had it described by one of these experts.

00:53:07.000 They have these, allegedly, have these spinning plasma like ships.

00:53:13.000 That would be basically what you would think a UFO would look like, right?

00:53:16.000 The saucers.

00:53:18.000 And essentially, the theory is that if you spin liquid plasma around at a really fast rate, essentially, there's no limitations on G's that the vessel can then pull, right?

00:53:28.000 So, if the thing is, stop, start, yeah.

00:53:33.000 And so, this is a theoretical, in theory, it might be quite real, actually, technology that the US government probably, maybe, who knows, has.

00:53:43.000 And these would be floating objects that could move up and down, side to side.

00:53:48.000 Take right angle turns, that sort of thing.

00:53:51.000 And, you know, this is stuff that people have developed quite a long ways in the theoretical world, and they theorize that it could actually already exist.

00:54:01.000 So, a lot of people, if that's true, if this technology does exist and we've had it for some amount of time, then maybe that's what a lot of this stuff is.

00:54:09.000 You just never know.

00:54:10.000 So, just throwing this out here because we're talking about this and whether it's modern or not, have you guys ever heard of the celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg?

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:21.000 No.

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:22.000 Have you heard of this, Andrew?

00:54:24.000 No, I'm looking it up right now.

00:54:25.000 Oh, this is pretty wild.

00:54:27.000 Throw up that thing I said.

00:54:30.000 There was one in Russia, too.

00:54:31.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:54:32.000 In 1561, so this is before we had modern cameras or anything, reportedly, many women and men in the city of Nuremberg in Germany, which was one of the biggest cities in Europe at the time, a big happening spot, they saw an aerial battle out of the sun in which a large black triangular object appeared.

00:54:53.000 And various spheres began to tumble out of the sky.

00:54:57.000 They allegedly saw hundreds of different colored spheres, cylinders, and other odd shaped objects that moved erratically overhead.

00:55:07.000 And it apparently was just quite the site for everyone, and no one has any idea what it is.

00:55:12.000 And someone wrote it up and published it in a broadsheet back then, and everyone kind of was like, wow, that must have been pretty weird, but we don't know what it was.

00:55:20.000 Was there multiple witnesses that documented this, or is it just some write up in 50s?

00:55:25.000 It's a broadsheet.

00:55:26.000 So someone wrote it up at the time.

00:55:28.000 Literacy was less common then.

00:55:30.000 So I think we only have one account of it.

00:55:32.000 And so one of the takes is basically that this was just someone writing.

00:55:37.000 Like a tabloid weird thing, like, oh, guess what happened, guys?

00:55:40.000 Early tabloid.

00:55:41.000 Yeah, like super early tabloid.

00:55:43.000 Kooky stuff happened to the sky.

00:55:45.000 There were blood red strips becoming thicker to the rear and in the front, malleable like the rods of reed grass with which they intermingled.

00:55:53.000 And it like describes this.

00:55:55.000 It's too long to read all of it, but this stuff's been going around for a long time.

00:55:59.000 Well, can I make one more point before we jump off all of this?

00:56:03.000 And that's when JD Vance brings up spirituality to Rogan, and it's It amazes me that a guy like Rogan, who's super successful as he is, that he's still clinging to this very teenage kind of high school party boy mentality that, oh, I can believe in DMT machine elves and I can believe in aliens and interdimensional beings.

00:56:29.000 But the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, and they got into it over the Ten Commandments later, the minute you bring up anything from the Bible, you just have to shut it down immediately.

00:56:40.000 And that's actually what I think his sort of knee jerk response was there.

00:56:44.000 Because he's generally been very hostile to religion.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, it's like he was more uncomfortable with the idea of.

00:56:53.000 Like, it's really interesting what you're saying.

00:56:54.000 He was more uncomfortable with the idea of angels than he was with the idea of aliens.

00:56:59.000 He was like annoyed.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, like aliens can be a part of it.

00:57:01.000 He was like annoyed that JD Vance is like talking about. 0.97

00:57:04.000 I don't care if you bring this Bible talk into it. 1.00

00:57:06.000 And it's like.

00:57:06.000 That's interesting.

00:57:08.000 I don't think anyone picked up on that, Jack, because I thought he was just kind of like annoyed with the alien talk, because I think he.

00:57:15.000 I thought maybe he values that as like. 0.70

00:57:17.000 I think it was the Bible talk because he did the same thing.

00:57:20.000 He didn't want to talk about it.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

00:57:23.000 You know, it reminds me of how a lot of these silver unvalidated things are.

00:57:26.000 It was triggering because he probably realizes that there may be a grain of truth there.

00:57:31.000 There may be a grain of truth.

00:57:32.000 But there's also all these silk objects.

00:57:33.000 I have a really important point.

00:57:37.000 I got forced to sit over on this side of the table.

00:57:39.000 I get to make this point.

00:57:40.000 So I actually have a theory why Joe Rogan never had Charlie on his show.

00:57:45.000 And I think it's totally 100% the faith stuff because he did not want to discuss the faith stuff. 0.98

00:57:51.000 He did not want to look stupid discussing the faith stuff. 0.98

00:57:53.000 Isn't he going back to church? 0.99

00:57:55.000 Maybe.

00:57:56.000 I know.

00:57:57.000 But that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want to discuss that stuff. 0.58

00:58:00.000 And when you have somebody that knows a lot of stuff that may, like, when you're asking, finding questions, and it may not be that he'll make him look stupid, but he's like trying to discover on his own or whatever.

00:58:12.000 You know, people are in different places.

00:58:14.000 I think that that was one of the reasons why he never had Charlie on.

00:58:18.000 But that's just my take.

00:58:19.000 I would also, I've also, and I've said this, and by the way, this isn't like out of like, you know, anything.

00:58:25.000 I've also noticed that in general, he doesn't tend to have like Trump supporters on.

00:58:32.000 He's had like, obviously, JD and the president himself one time.

00:58:37.000 But in general, if you're someone who's just really known as a public Trump supporter, like ever since he went to Spotify, you were not getting on.

00:58:47.000 And obviously, there's been episodes of people who were Trump supporters that he had scrubbed.

00:58:52.000 And, you know, it's as from 2016 to 17, and or whenever you don't make the jump over.

00:58:58.000 It's just been something that I've always noted that, like, you can be an arts liberal, you can be a democrat, you can be a socialist, but you can be a neocon, but you cannot be MAGA.

00:59:08.000 Yep.

00:59:10.000 Man.

00:59:11.000 Which is really interesting.

00:59:13.000 You know, it's like, that's not balanced.

00:59:16.000 There's no balance.

00:59:18.000 No, it's not.

00:59:19.000 That's really not balanced.

00:59:20.000 I mean, so, and that's why, that's what always grinded me about him not having Charlie on.

00:59:24.000 Not that, you know, not from the religious perspective, but it's like, Who was more relevant of a pro prompt MAGA voice in 2024 than Charlie Kirk, right?

00:59:35.000 Or, and certainly 2025, if you win the election and everybody knows that Charlie played this massive role.

00:59:41.000 And, like, just if you're running a podcast and you want to talk, you want to inform your viewers about what's going on in the world, wouldn't Charlie Kirk be the obvious person to sit down and have a two, three hour conversation with?

00:59:53.000 I, yeah, I'm just my controversial take is I don't know that I've ever found Rogan's podcast that good on its own merits.

01:00:00.000 Like, he gets really good guests, and so sometimes those guests.

01:00:03.000 Are going to say very interesting things, and it's very long, so you get a lot of content out of it.

01:00:08.000 But I think Jack is right in the sense that he falls short in terms of that specific thing.

01:00:13.000 He should have had Charlie on, and he just never did.

01:00:15.000 And there's a lot of people he should have had on, and he has the platform to do it.

01:00:19.000 And we talk about podcasts and new media as a way to get around all the blockades that exist in normal media.

01:00:26.000 I think he could execute a little bit better on that.

01:00:28.000 I'm gonna say it, yeah.

01:00:31.000 And by the way, I actually reached out to Rogan, he had Tellerico on, you know.

01:00:37.000 Have other people on too.

01:00:38.000 It's, you know.

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01:01:42.000 Yeah, I reached out to Rogan after Trump won in 2024 because it was kind of like the moment that Charlie and I discussed.

01:01:51.000 Now's the time to go for some of this stuff.

01:01:55.000 We did the New York Times profile.

01:01:57.000 I mean, Charlie had a billion people that wanted to profile him, and we kind of picked and chose what we thought was the best approach there.

01:02:05.000 And I emailed Rogan's people right in that same time period, and they instantly, I'll never forget, it was like they instantly wrote back.

01:02:12.000 It was like within five minutes, I got an email response back.

01:02:16.000 And they said, you know, we'll be back in touch.

01:02:18.000 Like, let us discuss.

01:02:20.000 And then I followed up like a couple weeks later and Ghost Town.

01:02:26.000 So that's how it is with them.

01:02:31.000 We were going to possibly do this as the last one, but I want to make sure that we get to it.

01:02:35.000 And I think this is going to be a very fun one.

01:02:37.000 This is something I wanted to do a couple weeks ago.

01:02:39.000 So it's not 100% breaking news, but I think it's great.

01:02:42.000 We need to talk about Canada specifically.

01:02:48.000 Canada's suffocating need.

01:02:49.000 This is like Blake's favorite topic.

01:02:50.000 Yeah.

01:02:51.000 Canada's suffocating need, their made inducing need to be as liberal and woke as possible.

01:02:57.000 Otherwise, they're not a proper country. 0.84

01:02:59.000 Chokes on them. 0.58

01:03:00.000 They're never a proper country. 1.00

01:03:01.000 And so I'm going to challenge each of you, because I think this will be a fun game.

01:03:06.000 I'm going to challenge each of you to pronounce the new names that Canada is giving to various entities in Western Canada.

01:03:16.000 So let's put up number 13.

01:03:20.000 So this was formerly a street.

01:03:23.000 In Vancouver, in British Columbia.

01:03:26.000 It was formerly Trutch Street.

01:03:29.000 And are you guys able to see this?

01:03:31.000 If not, someone post it in Thought Crime so they can get a more up close visual of it.

01:03:36.000 You can see it on the white one there.

01:03:37.000 Which is Mason Street?

01:03:39.000 What's that?

01:03:39.000 Yeah, so Trutch Street is officially renamed to all of that stuff there.

01:03:45.000 Each of you, you're going to make an attempt, and then we're going to play the actual pronunciation of it.

01:03:51.000 Can you see that, Tyler?

01:03:53.000 All right.

01:03:54.000 Smimapkemesim Street.

01:04:00.000 All right.

01:04:01.000 Is there a theta in there?

01:04:01.000 All right.

01:04:02.000 Now, Jack, your turn.

01:04:03.000 Can you see it?

01:04:04.000 Can you pronounce it?

01:04:06.000 Oh, man.

01:04:11.000 All right.

01:04:14.000 So I'm just going to spell this real quick.

01:04:16.000 It says SXWMEOKEYEMAS. 0.88

01:04:23.000 That's theta. 0.98

01:04:24.000 EM.

01:04:24.000 That's not even an O.

01:04:25.000 That is a theta, which I think is a sound.

01:04:29.000 Also, you should note that the W is not a normal W.

01:04:31.000 It's like an exponent W for some reason.

01:04:36.000 Okay, so Sex, Mook, I, Mossum Street. 0.94

01:04:41.000 Say it fast. 0.98

01:04:43.000 You got to get that theta in Mossum Street.

01:04:45.000 Alrighty. 0.99

01:04:46.000 Alright, so we've got Sex, Mook, I, Awesome. 0.99

01:04:48.000 We have whatever the heck Andrew said. 0.99

01:04:50.000 Tyler, your turn.

01:04:51.000 I think that S is silent.

01:04:55.000 I could be wrong.

01:04:57.000 I can't remember.

01:04:58.000 The S is for silent.

01:05:04.000 Man, I hate camping.

01:05:12.000 What street are you at?

01:05:13.000 I'm trying to do the voice from What's His Face from that 70s show.

01:05:18.000 Is that awesome?

01:05:19.000 Is the end of it awesome?

01:05:20.000 Like, awesome?

01:05:21.000 Like, maybe.

01:05:24.000 Like, awesome.

01:05:25.000 All right.

01:05:25.000 Awesome Street.

01:05:26.000 I'm just going to say that.

01:05:27.000 Wait, what language is this supposed to be?

01:05:28.000 I believe it is in.

01:05:30.000 It's one of the bizarre coastal languages.

01:05:33.000 I believe it's a Musqueam Indian band, and they did it in their language.

01:05:40.000 I've already heard it, so it'd be kind of cheating for me to make an attempt.

01:05:44.000 Although I have most of the.

01:05:44.000 If you say this Awesome Street, just say it.

01:05:52.000 Who mean Nessum Street?

01:05:54.000 We'll go with that.

01:05:56.000 All right.

01:05:56.000 Yeah, just play the sound.

01:05:57.000 All righty, let's play the sound.

01:05:58.000 Let's play the sound for this street.

01:06:00.000 That is number 14.

01:06:07.000 Musqueam View Street.

01:06:09.000 That's it.

01:06:10.000 Musqueam View Street.

01:06:18.000 Musqueam View Street.

01:06:20.000 So that's the first one.

01:06:22.000 Musqueam Awesome.

01:06:26.000 Musqueam Awesome.

01:06:28.000 Musk we on.

01:06:28.000 So I was right.

01:06:30.000 No, I was right.

01:06:30.000 The S is silent.

01:06:31.000 Musk we on.

01:06:32.000 No, they were saying it was for.

01:06:34.000 No, the S with the little thing over the top of it affects the letter between it.

01:06:39.000 It's silent.

01:06:40.000 It's a whoosh.

01:06:40.000 It's like a whoosh.

01:06:42.000 The whoosh.

01:06:43.000 So, like the SXW is basically.

01:06:47.000 I'm telling you, that sounds like older Fez from that 70s show.

01:06:51.000 All righty.

01:06:51.000 So we have, we have, now we have our next one.

01:06:55.000 And we're not doing this.

01:06:56.000 They're literally Stone Age languages, and we've moved past this stuff.

01:07:00.000 No, we have not because we have another one.

01:07:02.000 This is a library in, uh, Canada is regressing.

01:07:05.000 Throw up number 15, the B roll.

01:07:07.000 Let's, let's make an attempt at this one.

01:07:10.000 This one has the, okay, you're going to have to see.

01:07:13.000 I'm going to, I'm going to paste the letters for it in Thought Crime Thing because it's just a, it's an image of it.

01:07:18.000 Uh, there.

01:07:19.000 That is the so and so library.

01:07:21.000 So, I can't even read that so far away.

01:07:23.000 Z W I, the number seven, X W A library.

01:07:28.000 Can we zoom in at least?

01:07:29.000 That's a password.

01:07:31.000 That's literally a password.

01:07:32.000 That's not a name, that's a password.

01:07:35.000 All right, sign is. 0.97

01:07:36.000 Sweet Squaw. 0.99

01:07:37.000 Hang on.

01:07:38.000 You're going to say what?

01:07:38.000 I have to go to the chat.

01:07:40.000 Sweet Squaw.

01:07:41.000 Sweet Squaw.

01:07:42.000 That's how you're saying it.

01:07:43.000 Sweet Squaw.

01:07:44.000 I'm just going to do it with like, I'm going to do it.

01:07:47.000 There's a seven in there?

01:07:48.000 Yeah, there's a seven in it.

01:07:49.000 There's a seven in it. 1.00

01:07:51.000 Sweet Squaw.

01:07:52.000 He's got a seven squat.

01:07:55.000 I feel like I'm being tricked into saying a really bad word in a foreign language right now.

01:08:01.000 Are we going to get curses?

01:08:03.000 At the end of this, are you going to tell us you're just trolling us?

01:08:06.000 I feel like I'm going to get clipped up like I did with Taylor Swifties.

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:09.000 Justifiably.

01:08:11.000 But you have to make your attempt.

01:08:13.000 They've made their attempt.

01:08:13.000 You have to say how you're going to say it now.

01:08:15.000 Zwiskwa. 1.00

01:08:18.000 I think I agree. 0.71

01:08:19.000 I'm just going to lean all in to their dumb spelling and I'm going to pronounce it Zwiskwa. 0.99

01:08:26.000 Dweep seven squat. 0.97

01:08:28.000 I'm just going to pronounce out the seven. 1.00

01:08:29.000 They put a stupid seven in it. 1.00

01:08:30.000 We're going to get seven. 1.00

01:08:31.000 What's the reveal?

01:08:32.000 Already. 1.00

01:08:33.000 Where are you getting a stupid seven in there, though? 1.00

01:08:35.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:08:35.000 I can pronounce it how I want. 1.00

01:08:37.000 And we're going to play.

01:08:38.000 All right.

01:08:38.000 This is someone pronouncing it in like an academic lecture.

01:08:42.000 Let's play clip 16.

01:08:45.000 Today's session is called Using Huihua's Research Guides What They Are and How We Use Them.

01:08:52.000 Huihua's Research Guides What They Are and How We Use Them.

01:08:56.000 That sounds like a bad word.

01:08:58.000 I was right.

01:08:58.000 A little bit.

01:08:59.000 I said seven.

01:09:00.000 What's seven?

01:09:02.000 Jack got pretty close.

01:09:03.000 This is a family show.

01:09:04.000 It was a little more airy, I think.

01:09:05.000 Like, whee-wah.

01:09:07.000 But it was very close, I would say.

01:09:09.000 All right, we have one last one. 1.00

01:09:11.000 That sounds like an old lady fart. 1.00

01:09:14.000 We have our last one. 1.00

01:09:15.000 We have our last one.

01:09:16.000 You can throw up 17, and it's that court.

01:09:21.000 So it's got like a question mark in it.

01:09:25.000 Throw up 17's B-roll, and it's.

01:09:29.000 Nico Wamat.

01:09:32.000 Oh, did they play it already?

01:09:33.000 Or was that Jack there?

01:09:36.000 That was me.

01:09:36.000 All right.

01:09:37.000 You said Nikwamat?

01:09:38.000 It says how to pronounce it.

01:09:40.000 It says how to pronounce it, though, right there. 0.97

01:09:43.000 Not Zamats. 0.89

01:09:44.000 Oh, are they blowing it? 0.98

01:09:45.000 Oh, are they blowing it right there?

01:09:46.000 Oh, that's too bad.

01:09:47.000 Oh, well.

01:09:47.000 Let's hear it.

01:09:49.000 I want to hear it anyway.

01:09:50.000 All righty.

01:09:50.000 Well, we'll hear it anyway.

01:09:54.000 Nazi. 0.70

01:09:55.000 Nashimash.

01:09:58.000 Nash.

01:09:59.000 Nash.

01:10:01.000 Nashima.

01:10:01.000 I like Nashima.

01:10:02.000 In fact, I think I prefer that to whatever the official one is.

01:10:04.000 But let's hear what the official one is.

01:10:06.000 18.

01:10:08.000 It's really bothering.

01:10:13.000 Where are they getting that in the last one?

01:10:16.000 It looks like matte, but they just add like.

01:10:19.000 It has a question mark.

01:10:23.000 It's like a question mark with no dot.

01:10:26.000 You got not.

01:10:28.000 You got not.

01:10:29.000 So we got.

01:10:30.000 I've already forgotten how they said that first street name.

01:10:34.000 For those who've never hung out with Jack in private, he does this voice sometimes.

01:10:39.000 It's great.

01:10:40.000 This is like classic Jack.

01:10:42.000 Alrighty.

01:10:42.000 I'm so glad we got to do that.

01:10:44.000 I didn't do that.

01:10:45.000 So, Canada is getting covered with these things.

01:10:48.000 And the first peoples of Canada.

01:10:50.000 The first nations of Canada.

01:10:52.000 They're naming all these things that have sevens and sickles and embedded exponent.

01:10:57.000 I got an inquiry.

01:10:59.000 I got an inquiry from somebody.

01:11:00.000 I forget which outlet it was from, but it was like Has Turning Point weighed in on the Alberta?

01:11:08.000 I think they're doing some sort of vote to break away from Canada.

01:11:13.000 I was like, Well, I've heard Tyler bring this up before.

01:11:16.000 I mean, it's a pretty conservative province as far as Canada goes, right?

01:11:20.000 Yeah, Alberta is saying it's the least crazy.

01:11:24.000 Give me their number and I will respond entirely in the First Nations voice.

01:11:31.000 Oh, boy. 0.98

01:11:31.000 I am convinced people get hyped about this, but one, America's outline as a country, like if we had a silhouette, would look really stupid if we added Alberta. 0.98

01:11:40.000 It would just be like, weird. 0.93

01:11:41.000 We have, like, yeah, we just have this big dumb polygon jutting out of our nice American silhouette. 0.80

01:11:45.000 So that would annoy me. 0.90

01:11:46.000 And two, I am convinced, unfortunately, people talk about how it would be this new red state.

01:11:51.000 I'm convinced Alberta would be a blue state in U.S. politics.

01:11:54.000 Because remember, first of all, it's Canada, so they have multiple parties.

01:11:58.000 So you have their Conservative Party nationally, and then the Liberal Democrat Party, and they have the Liberals, and they also have the Greens, and the Greens are getting a few percent.

01:12:08.000 And if you suddenly just shove that into Republican Democrat U.S. politics, there are Conservatives in Canada who would be Democrats in the U.S., as is common in these countries.

01:12:18.000 And so we'd have that.

01:12:20.000 And I don't know.

01:12:21.000 I'm just, I'm not confident about it. 1.00

01:12:24.000 Blake, true or false, Canada is a little gay. 1.00

01:12:28.000 False. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Canada is extremely gay. 1.00

01:12:32.000 I would say double false. 1.00

01:12:33.000 There's your segue.

01:12:34.000 Canada does not exist.

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01:13:39.000 There's your segue, Blake, to our next topic.

01:13:41.000 Our next and final topic, which we're just hitting it.

01:13:45.000 We're kind of just going to ask which of us is going to take the plunge and is going to watch the Odyssey so we can discuss next week whether the Odyssey was actually good or not?

01:13:55.000 And the answer is we.

01:13:56.000 I haven't watched Supergirl.

01:13:59.000 You haven't even watched Supergirl yet.

01:14:00.000 Okay, well, we're definitely getting my Jack take on Supergirl.

01:14:03.000 I will confess, this is barely even a discussion because I, me, I am going to see the Odyssey.

01:14:09.000 I've got to see the.

01:14:09.000 They made a movie out of the Odyssey with like a $300 trillion budget.

01:14:14.000 And I feel obliged to support a movie that is not Supergirl, that's not Marvel slop or DC slop.

01:14:19.000 Here's my one.

01:14:21.000 They didn't pay for it.

01:14:22.000 No, here's my one take on the Odyssey it is not a film, it is a religious test.

01:14:33.000 For wokeness, you must accept this.

01:14:37.000 Helen of Troy. 0.62

01:14:38.000 Helen of Troy was not a blonde haired, blue eyed maiden. 0.81

01:14:42.000 Helen of Troy looked like this. 0.98

01:14:44.000 You must not accept Achilles as the greatest warrior of all time.

01:14:49.000 This is Achilles.

01:14:51.000 You must accept this.

01:14:53.000 What it is, is a religious test.

01:14:55.000 And by the way, I've, like, in the UK, been hearing people talk about how excited they are for it.

01:15:00.000 And, like, they're, like, honestly saying how much they think it's going to be this great movie that just when I'm around folks, not at, like, the CPAC and just, like, kind of around town coffee shop or whatever.

01:15:10.000 And I'm like, they're serious.

01:15:13.000 Like, they're actually just going along with this religion because that's what it obviously is. 0.84

01:15:17.000 It's so absurd. 0.94

01:15:18.000 It's obviously an item of religious faith. 0.99

01:15:21.000 That's what it is.

01:15:22.000 This is a religious test for woke believers.

01:15:25.000 I don't know if it's all that and everything. 0.93

01:15:28.000 I mean, let's see.

01:15:30.000 Let's play the trailer.

01:15:31.000 Let's play the trailer.

01:15:33.000 That part.

01:15:33.000 Okay, so I agree.

01:15:34.000 So with Ellen Page, I don't even sign on or whatever.

01:15:41.000 I thought the trailer was going to come off differently.

01:15:43.000 But let's play it, and we can talk about it on the other side.

01:15:47.000 Isn't that Zendaya or whatever?

01:15:49.000 No, never mind.

01:15:50.000 They're showing the trailer right now.

01:15:52.000 I don't think we have the audio version, which is good because it's like a three minute trailer.

01:15:55.000 Yes, we do.

01:15:56.000 Do we?

01:15:56.000 I think we do.

01:15:58.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:58.000 Yeah, we do have the audio version.

01:16:01.000 It's, hold on.

01:16:02.000 I got it.

01:16:03.000 We have it.

01:16:04.000 I saw it in the chat.

01:16:05.000 Nobody's bailing me out, so I'm just going to.

01:16:08.000 Oh, wait.

01:16:09.000 No, they're saying it doesn't have audio.

01:16:10.000 No, it doesn't have audio.

01:16:11.000 What we do have, as the next best thing, we have the actors rapping about it.

01:16:16.000 We have the actors rapping about the Odyssey.

01:16:18.000 You guys want to watch that?

01:16:19.000 That sounds more appropriate anyway.

01:16:21.000 33.

01:16:24.000 Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, Antinous.

01:16:28.000 Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, and Helen of Troy.

01:16:31.000 Odyssey, Odyssey, after the Iliad, Hidden no horse, won the war, yeah, I'm serious.

01:16:35.000 Odyssey, Odyssey, ditching for Ithaca, get past the Peloponnesian Peninsula.

01:16:39.000 Odyssey, Odyssey, Mediterranean, Psychotic Cyclops, and crater his cranium, Cerseus, cursing the men into bick and bits, gotta go on the road, head to where Hades is.

01:16:47.000 Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, and Helen of Troy.

01:16:50.000 We could be Homer, the way we go over, the story in six feet.

01:16:54.000 Pull it, Xanada, call it whatever, so long as it's this beat.

01:16:58.000 Sounds on sirens and suitors on suitors, and Zilla, Charybdis, so much on the moors.

01:17:02.000 But Helen, Athena, a helpful and generous help me get home to defeat that Antinous.

01:17:06.000 Tell me a muse of that hero who's traveled so far and so wide, and his life came unraveled.

01:17:09.000 And tell me a muse of that hero who's got to be tired as hell because of the Odyssey.

01:17:14.000 Odysseus, Telemachus, Penelope, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odysseus, the Odyssey.

01:17:23.000 I will say, if that was like some sort of thing that someone made in 2010.

01:17:29.000 With, like, a low budget cartoon, I'd have dug it.

01:17:33.000 But there's something different when they got all of these $20 million for a bit part actors in this to show up and do that.

01:17:41.000 That felt like a Saturday Night Live bit.

01:17:42.000 That literally felt like a Saturday Night Live bit.

01:17:45.000 But again, if you speak ill of this, if you say, How dare you put Lupita Nyongo as the face that launched a thousand ships, then you are.

01:18:01.000 Biggins, you mean if you speak ill of this Odysseus?

01:18:05.000 I think that rhymes, Jack.

01:18:06.000 It could be you think you love this Odysseus?

01:18:09.000 You could have a no, no, I'm doing it.

01:18:11.000 No, no, and I hate Christopher Nolan too.

01:18:14.000 Oh, no, why do you hate Christopher Nolan? 0.99

01:18:18.000 I'm just curious because he sucks. 0.96

01:18:20.000 That's why I liked the Dark Knight. 0.97

01:18:24.000 We had this whole conversation about all the good stuff.

01:18:26.000 I heard Dunkirk, we literally had this conversation, but like, I bet no, I okay, I did like Dunkirk.

01:18:31.000 All right, I did like Dunkirk was good.

01:18:34.000 Yeah, Doug Gurkha's most.

01:18:35.000 I like the next dollar.

01:18:36.000 I didn't like the next dollar.

01:18:38.000 So, what's the bigger controversy here?

01:18:40.000 What's the bigger controversy?

01:18:41.000 Is it the fact that Helena Troy is black or that Ellen Page, Elliot Page, is in this film?

01:18:51.000 Like the trans thing. 1.00

01:18:53.000 What annoys me about Ellen. 1.00

01:18:56.000 I think what annoys me about Page in the movie is there is literally a transgender character in the Odyssey.

01:19:03.000 Really?

01:19:04.000 Yes.

01:19:04.000 The sage Tiresias.

01:19:05.000 No, you said the sage Tiresias, who's like a fortune teller, sees the future in the Odyssey.

01:19:11.000 He is in the underworld, I believe.

01:19:14.000 And he is a male.

01:19:15.000 Who is turned into a woman by the god Apollo as punishment for something or other?

01:19:21.000 And like they ask him questions about this.

01:19:24.000 Like, that is an actual thing in the poem that Tiresias is there, was a man, was turned into a woman.

01:19:28.000 So, like, if you literally wanted to have a transgender character in your movie adaptation of an epic film, you actually could do it this time.

01:19:38.000 And instead, they had Elliot Page be this like Greek warrior who runs like a girl. 0.89

01:19:43.000 Hold on, I'm going to interject here. 0.57

01:19:44.000 Doesn't Athena also disguise herself as a man to travel with?

01:19:48.000 Telemachus.

01:19:49.000 So this could have also been. 0.83

01:19:50.000 That's not the same as trans. 0.99

01:19:53.000 None of these are the same as trans. 1.00

01:19:54.000 It's a woman pretending to be a man. 0.99

01:19:58.000 Again, this is the same as trans. 0.99

01:20:01.000 Ellen Page had top surgery as these pictures, these very graphic pictures.

01:20:06.000 Yeah, that's not like just dressing up in a hood or something. 1.00

01:20:09.000 That's so gross.

01:20:11.000 It's so unfortunate, dude, because she was like a cute little girl.

01:20:15.000 Remember Juno?

01:20:16.000 Juno was great.

01:20:18.000 Juno was a great girl.

01:20:19.000 It was like a very pro life.

01:20:21.000 Don't bring that up.

01:20:22.000 Don't bring that up.

01:20:23.000 Because it hurts too much, Tyler.

01:20:25.000 It hurts too much in my soul and in my heart.

01:20:28.000 And I don't do that. 0.71

01:20:29.000 She was like an up and coming actress.

01:20:32.000 The little song they play at the end.

01:20:33.000 And I just can't do it, man.

01:20:36.000 I mean, they just ruin everybody.

01:20:38.000 And you see how, like, and again, Hollywood just does a lot of this to a lot of people. 0.99

01:20:42.000 I mean, they're just so screwed up. 0.90

01:20:45.000 And, you know, there's a reason for it. 0.98

01:20:47.000 And there's things that are there.

01:20:48.000 And it's just, it's just unfortunately part of our culture in America now.

01:20:53.000 That's just, it's, Hollywood has just destroyed it.

01:20:55.000 Makes and and it's so funny that we're all having this visceral reaction against it.

01:21:03.000 Um, go ahead.

01:21:04.000 She's talked about uh being sexually abused in Hollywood as a teenager, so she she had talked about literally being the victim of grooming and sexual abuse by men and a woman, and um, you know, a number of things.

01:21:18.000 And so that it's you know, it's it's it's something where it's just like you know.

01:21:28.000 Like, what actually went on there?

01:21:30.000 And this is clearly just someone who's undergone a serious amount of trauma.

01:21:35.000 And rather than, like, most people who undergo this, probably all, that, you know, rather than actually help them deal with the issue that they have, they do this whole, you know, what they call it, the, like, oh my gosh, what's the, what's the, I'm super jet lagged over here.

01:21:54.000 It's like shout your abortion. 0.61

01:21:56.000 No, it's like when they validate your, yeah, validate your, um, Your transgenderism, and then they sign off on everything. 0.55

01:22:04.000 And yeah, Libby Emmons would kill me for not knowing it.

01:22:08.000 But it's, you know, when the gender affirming, thank you, gender affirming care, gender affirming care.

01:22:13.000 And as opposed to actually like trying to just help somebody who's obviously undergone something pretty horrible.

01:22:21.000 You know, I'm, I don't think I'm going to see it.

01:22:24.000 You're not going to see it.

01:22:25.000 Not immediately.

01:22:26.000 I'm not.

01:22:26.000 If everybody tells me it's so good, like if Blake comes back and he's like, It was actually really good.

01:22:31.000 Like, I might go see it.

01:22:32.000 But if Blake comes back and be like, yeah, I don't see it, I'm definitely not going to see it.

01:22:37.000 Matt Damon as Odysseus actually isn't that bad of a casting, and I'm kind of surprised that I actually didn't realize that until I saw the trailer here because I'm like, oh, that's actually pretty good casting.

01:22:46.000 Yeah.

01:22:49.000 You know, it's just so much so overwhelming with all the bad castings.

01:22:52.000 It is just going to annoy me.

01:22:53.000 Like, I could see it being 85% good, and then it will just really annoy me that they did these completely unnecessary genuflectors.

01:23:03.000 Like, you know, it's like if you watch any movie where it's like if you're watching some all time, like if they had.

01:23:09.000 Saving Private Ryan, and then there was like one random scene where like a guy is rapping in it or something.

01:23:14.000 It would be, you'd probably still like the movie, but everyone would go, why was there that one scene there?

01:23:19.000 It just seemed really out of place and brought the movie down a little bit.

01:23:23.000 Oh man, I was, someone just pops up and is like, it's like Himmler, Rommel.

01:23:31.000 Can't think of any Rommel there on the spot, but that's okay.

01:23:35.000 It's okay.

01:23:35.000 Himmler, Rommel.

01:23:37.000 Wow.

01:23:37.000 This has been fun.

01:23:38.000 Blake, This is what Blake needs to do with his life now.

01:23:42.000 He needs to do bad movie reviews, and it's going to be his social media specialty where Blake does bad movie reviews.

01:23:50.000 So that's next, Blake.

01:23:53.000 And on that note, Jack, take us home.

01:23:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.

01:24:08.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 18, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 135 — JD Vance and Aliens? Šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm Street? The Agony and The Odyssey?

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