The Charlie Kirk Show - Unmasking the Existential Threat of Artificial Intelligence

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00:00:20.000 What was Joe Biden doing meeting with Hunter Biden and foreign officials?

00:00:23.000 And what does that mean for our justice system?

00:00:25.000 Also, I go on an unexpected dialogue about artificial intelligence, AI.

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00:02:27.000 So what is a scandal?

00:02:30.000 We spent four exhausting years fighting back against the New York Times and the Washington Post defending Donald Trump against these fake scandals.

00:02:40.000 From the Steele dossier to George Papadopoulos to the Mueller investigation.

00:02:49.000 It was so bad for the country.

00:02:52.000 But if that's the new standard of what warrants an investigation into a political leader, when Don Jr. had to do 20 plus hours of testimony in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I'm failing to understand why there is no interest in investigating what is now becoming a very serious scandal,

00:03:17.000 a very serious pattern of misconduct and wrongdoing by the Biden administration when it comes to Hunter Biden.

00:03:27.000 Now, this came out yesterday.

00:03:28.000 I saw this on the Daily Mail of all places.

00:03:30.000 I kind of like the Daily Mail.

00:03:32.000 Because they get to the point.

00:03:32.000 You know why?

00:03:33.000 There's no fluff.

00:03:34.000 It's boom.

00:03:35.000 Here's the headline.

00:03:36.000 Kind of really respect it.

00:03:38.000 Where they put out a story that shows that Joe Biden, according to the Hunter Biden laptop, I don't know how these emails keep on coming out, but I suppose they did.

00:03:50.000 I guess they do.

00:03:52.000 Shows that Joe Biden did, in fact, work with Hunter Biden and meet with foreign officials while he was Vice President of the United States.

00:04:04.000 So maybe instead of a January 6th commission where we already have the Department of Justice and the FBI looking into this, looking into that extensively, why don't we have a Hunter Biden commission?

00:04:15.000 Play cut 73.

00:04:18.000 And it really, this story arc, the Hunter Biden laptop story arc, follows very neatly, Harris, with the COVID came from a Wuhan lab is a conspiracy theorist idea.

00:04:28.000 It has followed that same playbook.

00:04:30.000 That's crazy talk.

00:04:31.000 That's Russian disinformation.

00:04:33.000 That's conspiracy.

00:04:34.000 It's dismissed.

00:04:36.000 It manipulates every single person out there.

00:04:39.000 It manipulates every single person out there.

00:04:42.000 Not a lot of talk about it.

00:04:44.000 It's perfectly under.

00:04:45.000 It's fine that Hunter Biden boarded Air Force 2 with his father and came back from China with Chinese officials with a multi-billion dollar investment into a New York investment firm.

00:04:56.000 So the news story that came out yesterday shows that Joe Biden did indeed meet with foreign officials.

00:05:05.000 I think it was at either Cafe Milano, somewhere in Washington, D.C., some overpriced, kind of tasteless lobbyist joint, where they, Kazakhstani officials, may have been Uzbekistan, where they were discussing foreign policy, and obviously they wanted to get something out of the United States government.

00:05:34.000 So let's play cut 74 of Joe Biden saying he never talked to Hunter Biden about his overseas business dealings.

00:05:42.000 Cut 74.

00:05:43.000 Mr. Vice President, how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?

00:05:49.000 I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.

00:05:52.000 I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period.

00:06:00.000 Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business dealings?

00:06:05.000 I stand by that statement.

00:06:06.000 It's just a pure lie.

00:06:08.000 It's worse than a lie.

00:06:09.000 It's the opposite of the truth.

00:06:12.000 It's very Orwellian, and we talk about what Orwell means.

00:06:16.000 We actually study 1984 on this show.

00:06:18.000 I consider Orwell to be the closest thing to a modern-day political prophet where he was able to just capture human psychology with the mixture of technology and how they will act.

00:06:28.000 It's a phenomenal piece of literature.

00:06:30.000 I just reread it in like five hours recently.

00:06:33.000 And Joe Biden was saying, no, no, no, of course I stand by that statement.

00:06:37.000 Where it was the opposite of the truth.

00:06:39.000 He was actively involved in that.

00:06:40.000 And here's a question that I would love to have someone in the media ask, where's Tony Bobulinsky?

00:06:45.000 Where is Tony Bobulinsky, who said that Joe Biden was running the show?

00:06:51.000 He was the big man.

00:06:54.000 Harris Faulkner reads the email from Hunter Biden to a shady business partner saying that my dad will be there, but can stay between us for now.

00:07:01.000 Ooh, stay between us for now.

00:07:03.000 Where is Hunter Biden's laptop?

00:07:05.000 Does the FBI have it?

00:07:06.000 Does the Department of Justice have it?

00:07:09.000 Maybe that's why they rated Rudy Giuliani's apartment.

00:07:12.000 Cut 75.

00:07:14.000 The New York Post, not holding back with this headline, calling those associates shady.

00:07:20.000 One of the emails from Hunter Biden about an April 2016 dinner reads this way.

00:07:25.000 Dad will be there, but keep that between us for now.

00:07:28.000 Oh, it's in writing.

00:07:32.000 My dad will be there, but that can stay between us for now.

00:07:36.000 Now, a story we did not cover, just because there's so many other things to cover, and it's somewhat predictable, is that while all of this is happening under the Biden family, we are now seeing the finale of what has been a multi-year campaign to destroy Donald Trump criminally.

00:07:57.000 A grand jury has been impaneled in the state of New York to try and indict Donald Trump for what would possibly be paperwork issues.

00:08:08.000 Now, the grand jury is going to probably do whatever the prosecutor asks them to do.

00:08:13.000 Meanwhile, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Peter Strzzok, Lisa Page, Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton are all just enjoying life.

00:08:25.000 Hillary Clinton's not actually enjoying life.

00:08:27.000 There was a story recently that shows she just chugged a glass of wine while Bill Clinton was, let's just say, having a little bit of a wandering eye with another woman.

00:08:37.000 I got to chuck a lot of it.

00:08:40.000 So I don't know if they're enjoying life, but they're not currently going to be going the direction that the Trump organization has to go in.

00:08:48.000 So while we have the top levels of New York state government and the Manhattan District Attorney going after Donald Trump and his business personally and criminally, we just have a complete indifference from the activist press on the fact that our current president very well was doing international business deals while he was vice president, lied about it.

00:09:11.000 And since we do not have a press, this is just going to probably disappear.

00:09:17.000 And this is why the Georgia runoffs were so important.

00:09:19.000 If there was a United States Senate in Republican control, there could be subpoenas, there could be witnesses, there could be hearings actually holding the Biden administration accountable for their international crimes.

00:09:33.000 Instead, there's almost nothing of the sort.

00:09:36.000 Instead, there's just kind of this rolling of the eyes.

00:09:40.000 This is not a story.

00:09:42.000 We're going to allow them to get away with it-type mentality that is dominant throughout the activist press.

00:09:49.000 If there is just one journalist out there that wants to win an award or be somebody, can you just start looking into this?

00:09:56.000 Every conversation Donald Trump ever got, in fact, I just got an Apple News alert, which is so incredibly deceiving how Apple does this from CNBC that says Trump and Giuliani asked Judge to drop Capitol Riot conspiracy case.

00:10:13.000 This whole thing is about dismissing a lawsuit.

00:10:17.000 The number one story on CNBC is all about Donald Trump, the man who is golfing at Mar-a-Lago.

00:10:22.000 That's the number one story on CNBC Apple News.

00:10:26.000 And also that Republicans want a trillion-dollar infrastructure package.

00:10:30.000 Nothing about Hunter Biden.

00:10:32.000 Nothing about Joe Biden lying about it.

00:10:34.000 What does that tell you?

00:10:35.000 And what does that actually mean for the sustainability of our republic?

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00:11:53.000 Whatever happened to the Durham investigation?

00:11:55.000 Was it quit or did Biden stop it?

00:11:57.000 What a great question.

00:12:00.000 Well, no, it's still continuing, allegedly.

00:12:03.000 But don't get your hopes up.

00:12:05.000 There was an announcement around it months ago.

00:12:08.000 I'm actually going to look into that for a second.

00:12:11.000 They were doing subpoenaing something, but there was basically some crumbs that were showing that there was not going to be any sort of indictments.

00:12:23.000 And it just kind of remains very opaque.

00:12:25.000 So who knows where it's going to go?

00:12:27.000 But he's certainly taking his time.

00:12:30.000 That's for sure.

00:12:32.000 So, but don't worry, there's a grand jury to go indict a former president who was acquitted twice under impeachment.

00:12:42.000 Now, meanwhile, New York City's crime is up like you can't believe in the state of New York and New York City. 0.52

00:12:49.000 But the top focus of the people who are supposed to enforce the law, it's not actually trying to go after the radical Muslims or the social justice warrior Arabs that were screaming hate crimes at Jews.

00:13:02.000 It wasn't about the Bella Hadid, whoever that is, being associated with these criminals that are going after Jewish people for legitimate hate crimes in New York.

00:13:13.000 No, no, no, not that.

00:13:15.000 Not the fact that rapes are up and murders are up and damage is up in New York like you can't believe.

00:13:20.000 No, their focus of their prosecutor's office and their resources, their limited resources, is to go indict the Trump organization and Donald Trump because they don't like his politics.

00:13:32.000 So what does that mean for our country?

00:13:35.000 Well, basically, any sort of appearance or let's just say any sort of idea that we had that we're just going to not use power for political purposes, we have now crossed that Rubicon.

00:13:53.000 It is over.

00:13:55.000 The left is very clear.

00:13:56.000 If you are a politician that we do not like and you do things that we don't like, we're just going to use the criminal justice system against you.

00:14:04.000 And it's very third world.

00:14:05.000 Of course it is.

00:14:06.000 And many conservatives are not willing to punch back twice as hard and actually do to the left what they're doing to us.

00:14:13.000 Why are we taking it that they stormed Rudy Giuliani's apartment like he was El Chapo?

00:14:20.000 He was the mayor of New York and formally ran that office.

00:14:23.000 If you want something, get a subpoena.

00:14:25.000 You don't have to storm his apartment.

00:14:27.000 They impanel the jury against Donald Trump.

00:14:29.000 We already know what they did to Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.

00:14:33.000 We've talked about this at length.

00:14:36.000 And yet, Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, and I'm just going to be very cynical, but honest, nothing's going to happen to them.

00:14:45.000 At the very least, Hunter Biden will pay some sort of fee to the IRS or the DOJ for backpaid taxes, have to get some community service, and that's it.

00:14:56.000 No record.

00:14:56.000 That's fine.

00:15:00.000 They're playing for keeps, and yet we are here kind of in a paralysis, hoping that bad things do not happen to us and to our allies.

00:15:09.000 So while crime is up 800% in Portland, the top focus of our law enforcement is going after their political opponents and their political enemies.

00:15:19.000 Meanwhile, they actually used the FBI to spy, try to infiltrate, and go after Donald Trump, and they entrapped Lieutenant General Michael Flynn.

00:15:31.000 You might remember that.

00:15:31.000 Peter Strzokstroke-Smirk did that.

00:15:34.000 So, where is Durham?

00:15:37.000 I don't know.

00:15:38.000 Why was none of this ever investigated?

00:15:40.000 I don't know.

00:15:41.000 What I do know is that if it is a question of whether or not you are willing, not able, the Democrats are winning that.

00:15:50.000 The Democrats are willing to use their prosecutorial power to go after people they don't like that they consider to be a threat, to take pieces off the chessboard.

00:16:02.000 And I've actually been quite surprised, quite honestly, and disappointed.

00:16:06.000 The conservative movement has been largely silent now that Donald Trump has a grand jury impaneled against him.

00:16:14.000 The conservative movement largely has been silent against the storming of Rudy Giuliani's apartment.

00:16:19.000 There's been some outrage here and there.

00:16:21.000 The left knows that they've got us on the ropes.

00:16:23.000 They know that there is kind of this belief that, ah, well, we don't have power.

00:16:29.000 We're not able to do that.

00:16:31.000 Well, the way it should work is that every single state attorney general across the country should start launching investigations into the Biden family.

00:16:38.000 It's only going to stop when they feel some threat coming to their doorstep.

00:16:43.000 Until then, we are just going to be constantly retreating, and the left is willing to use every single piece of power at their disposal.

00:16:53.000 I'm actually going to talk about a different topic here that is, I think, really interesting.

00:16:57.000 And the conservative movement's failure to even address this is just so frustrating.

00:17:01.000 And it impacts everyone.

00:17:03.000 It impacts our humanity, impacts our country, it impacts our society.

00:17:07.000 And we have to take a definitive stance against this.

00:17:10.000 I don't care what political party that you're in.

00:17:12.000 This is needed now.

00:17:14.000 And Pete Buttigieg-type Democrats, who basically were manufactured just to defend the tech companies, think this is perfectly fine.

00:17:21.000 But the president of Microsoft, Brad Smith, warns: quote: Life will become like George Orwell's 1984 by 2024 if lawmakers don't protect the public against artificial intelligence.

00:17:35.000 Now, if you have never read 1984, I encourage you to do that.

00:17:38.000 We mention it on the show quite often.

00:17:41.000 It takes place in obviously 1984, or so they think.

00:17:46.000 London has been renamed as Airstripped One. 0.83

00:17:49.000 The protagonist of the story is the guy by the name of Winston Smith.

00:17:54.000 Winston Smith works for the party.

00:17:57.000 There are only three countries in this dystopian future.

00:18:00.000 Remember, this was written before 1984.

00:18:02.000 And the three countries are always at war.

00:18:05.000 There are several incantations that are repeated. 0.96

00:18:08.000 War is peace.

00:18:09.000 Ignorance is strength. 0.64

00:18:12.000 Slavery is freedom.

00:18:14.000 And it is about a Leviathan government that knows everything about you.

00:18:18.000 Every room has a thing called a telescreen that looks at your behaviors, your movements, your twitches.

00:18:24.000 There's a famous line where Winston Smith says that the only way to hide something from the party, the people that are constantly surveying you, surveilling you, is to hide it from yourself.

00:18:36.000 Winston is somewhat of a free-thinking individual.

00:18:39.000 His job in 1984 working for the Ministry of Truth.

00:18:44.000 There are several different ministries.

00:18:45.000 There's the Ministry of Plenty, the Ministry of Truth, the Ministry of Peace.

00:18:50.000 And so the Ministry of Truth is responsible for editing things in the past so that they are able to change things in the future.

00:18:57.000 So his job is to go back in the past and find newspaper clippings and edit them and change them.

00:19:03.000 And then he'll stuff them down what is called a memory hole, meaning it disappears forever.

00:19:09.000 The story begins with Winston not obviously not being very happy, but living a less than humane existence, constantly being surveilled.

00:19:20.000 And at the beginning, he goes and buys a little journal as an act of defiance and starts to write against the party.

00:19:26.000 The party is what runs the government.

00:19:28.000 He has a chance encounter with a young woman, the young woman he's supposed to hate.

00:19:34.000 She works for the Junior Anti-Sex League and the Thought Police because in Orwell's future, any sort of enjoyment of human relationships are gone.

00:19:43.000 The procreation of children is done simply and solely for the betterment of the state.

00:19:49.000 He stumbles into actually getting into a romantic relationship with this young woman, and then, therefore, he does this totally illegally and below the radar.

00:20:01.000 And he actually ends up getting caught.

00:20:03.000 Story unfolds.

00:20:04.000 I don't have to ruin the rest of it for you if you want to read it.

00:20:07.000 It's basically pretty well known now.

00:20:09.000 It's not like this is a new compelling piece of literature.

00:20:12.000 However, the guy who runs the party, a guy by the name of O'Brien, actually faked to Winston the idea that he was actually leading a rebellion.

00:20:22.000 Winston gets caught and he gets brought into torture.

00:20:25.000 Now, I did not know how the book ended.

00:20:28.000 I was always familiar with it.

00:20:29.000 I read it many years ago.

00:20:30.000 I forgot, I should say, how the book ended.

00:20:32.000 And now I'm rereading all these pieces of literature that used to be thrown in front of me when I was in high school.

00:20:36.000 And now I'm actually studying them, not just reading them to pass a test, which I encourage all of you to do.

00:20:40.000 The end of the book is unbelievable.

00:20:42.000 The last page just brought chills down my spine.

00:20:45.000 And basically, it's this idea that eventually the party, technology, will break you.

00:20:51.000 That it will break your spirit and your soul.

00:20:52.000 And eventually you're just going to worship that technology.

00:20:55.000 And in the famous final page of the book, the poster that says Big Brother is watching you, which was throughout the entire piece of literature was always described as treacherous and not treacherous, but it was very intimidating, the poster.

00:21:14.000 Winston hated that poster.

00:21:16.000 It made him feel like he was being watched.

00:21:18.000 The last page, it's really amazing.

00:21:21.000 After the torture, after the fact he had to basically denounce his romantic relationship and throw her under the bus, he basically has this moment where he falls in love with Big Brother and he becomes one with the state.

00:21:37.000 And that was actually his true death.

00:21:39.000 So Microsoft President Brad Smith, there's so much more there, by the way, than that quick summary that I just gave you.

00:21:44.000 From the telescreen to the two minutes hate where you have to watch two minutes of hate every single day to get yourself riled up against some sort of opponent, sounds like CNN, to the constant monitoring of your behavior, to the loyalty to the party, to constantly being at war, all these sorts of things.

00:22:02.000 But the thing that really strikes people that I think people do not recognize or realize, which is technology breeds tyranny.

00:22:10.000 And so in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, and 50s, we saw the greatest death toll in human history in a short period of time.

00:22:18.000 Why?

00:22:19.000 Part of the answer is obviously collectivism and Marxism.

00:22:23.000 But the other part of the answer is because of technology, really bad people were able to control people and kill people quicker and more efficiently than ever before.

00:22:35.000 So in economics, we fall in love with efficiency.

00:22:38.000 That's fine.

00:22:39.000 I love the fact that I can get products quicker and more simple and easier.

00:22:44.000 But we never ask ourselves the question, what is the downside of efficiency?

00:22:48.000 Now, economists hate when I talk about this, but they shouldn't, because actually I think some of them would actually agree at this.

00:22:54.000 Well, you can kill a lot of people easier too.

00:22:56.000 You can control a lot of people easier.

00:22:58.000 If something is efficient and needs to be efficient for the good.

00:23:02.000 So therefore, maybe we shouldn't center a society simply and solely around economics.

00:23:06.000 Maybe we should center it around ethics and philosophy, good philosophy and the pursuit of the good.

00:23:11.000 So Microsoft President Brad Smith is now basically pulling a fire alarm.

00:23:15.000 He says we have three years, and I agree with him, by the way, that if we do not control artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence will control us.

00:23:23.000 So what is artificial intelligence?

00:23:25.000 Artificial intelligence is the simulation of human intelligence in machines that makes machines think like human beings.

00:23:32.000 This is happening at a logarithmic, exponential pace.

00:23:37.000 Eventually, we are going to reach what is called singularity.

00:23:41.000 Singularity is when computers or machines are actually able to have their own consciousness, self-awareness.

00:23:51.000 It is debated of whether or not animals are self-aware.

00:23:54.000 I don't think they are.

00:23:55.000 It's actually irrelevant.

00:23:56.000 The point is that we know human beings are self-aware.

00:23:59.000 We know we are humans.

00:24:00.000 We know we can speak.

00:24:01.000 We know we have reason.

00:24:04.000 So the question is, what happens when machines get those things?

00:24:07.000 So Smith, this guy, Brad Smith, I don't know if he's doing this for a business purpose because he wants Microsoft to control our artificial intelligence or maybe he's actually very worried.

00:24:16.000 I don't know.

00:24:17.000 But he says, quote, that if we don't do anything, we're all going to be living in 1984.

00:24:22.000 Airstrip one, every movement, every smile, every frown completely monitored.

00:24:26.000 We're already seeing this in China.

00:24:28.000 And you're going to get a social credit score from the state.

00:24:31.000 And this is made possible thanks to technology.

00:24:34.000 Let me say that again.

00:24:35.000 This facial recognition, the 80 different unique nodal points across your eyes that the machines are learning to monitor and categorize exactly as Orwell predicted when none of this technology was even, it's just so amazing his ability for prophecy, is going to breed more tyranny.

00:24:53.000 So you're going to get Napoleon-style, Napoleon-Stalin, Mussolini types that all of a sudden are going to have so much power at their disposal.

00:25:02.000 Are we actually going to be human beings any longer?

00:25:05.000 And this is why I'm speaking out so firmly against these digital pacifiers that we carry around these smartphones.

00:25:12.000 And this is probably my greatest disagreement with libertarians.

00:25:15.000 I have a couple of them.

00:25:16.000 But the fact is, we should heavily regulate artificial intelligence.

00:25:21.000 We need to regulate artificial intelligence and slow this down the way we regulate nuclear weaponry.

00:25:28.000 We still have it, but it's in a certain place with certain codes with experts and technicians, and it's transparent, and we know when it's used.

00:25:37.000 If we think we're just going to decentralize artificial intelligence, I'm afraid for the species of humanity.

00:25:43.000 I'm afraid for our spirit and for our soul. 0.53

00:25:46.000 If you go deep into what's happening in China, they have millions of cameras that catalog every single citizen.

00:25:53.000 It's already being put into place.

00:25:55.000 They monitor everything that can cap with you.

00:25:58.000 So think about it.

00:25:59.000 Xi Jiping is only able to be as powerful as he is because of the technology at his disposal.

00:26:04.000 And I think that's the missing component of Orwell.

00:26:08.000 The missing component that people have, not that what he wrote, that people's read of Orwell is there, oh, yeah, we need to protect privacy.

00:26:14.000 No, the more that we pander to the tech lobby, the more you make something like that likely to happen.

00:26:21.000 And so one of the other takeaways from Orwell's 1984 that I think is lost on a lot of people, and by the way, this is Brad Smith who's saying it himself.

00:26:29.000 I mean, Google has already, they already have this technology ready to go.

00:26:34.000 It's a new breed called Adversarial Neural Networks.

00:26:37.000 It's really creepy, which pits the wits of two AI bots against each other and allows them to learn from one another.

00:26:43.000 And so here's just something that I have to just be very blunt.

00:26:47.000 We don't have to have this.

00:26:49.000 You don't need it.

00:26:50.000 We can decide we don't want it and regulate it and put it in a corner and say, that's actually kind of really creepy.

00:26:54.000 Let's only use it when we need it.

00:26:56.000 We actually want humans to kind of slowly progress, if progress at all.

00:27:01.000 We don't need this.

00:27:02.000 Kind of this false conservatism out there, like, oh, we need to manage artificial intelligence or just let it be at its own.

00:27:09.000 The market is going to win.

00:27:10.000 Hold on, do we even need it at all?

00:27:12.000 Seriously.

00:27:13.000 Now, it might be a good thing, obviously, to be able to detect tumors earlier and be able to rebuild hearts and have more people to be able to have life-saving surgeries.

00:27:22.000 I think that's probably a pro-human argument if it's heavily regulated.

00:27:26.000 But if we're all of a sudden going to allow this moment of, sure, everyone gets their own blend of artificial intelligence, we're not ready for that.

00:27:34.000 This is not all of a sudden the horse buggy becoming the automobile.

00:27:38.000 This is not all of a sudden the lantern becoming the streetlight.

00:27:42.000 This is not just the proliferation of carbonated water as other technological innovations have happened over the last hundred years.

00:27:49.000 This is something where you're creating a new species, autonomous with their own thoughts.

00:27:56.000 Do they have ethics?

00:27:57.000 Do they have morals?

00:27:59.000 Are we going to control them?

00:28:00.000 Are we just going to kind of be like, oh, yeah, we have a new whole species?

00:28:02.000 And by the way, they also control our weapons.

00:28:04.000 They control our cameras.

00:28:06.000 No, this is so easy.

00:28:09.000 And our leaders are too distracted worrying about if they're going to have some commission looking into January 6th or spend a trillion dollars in infrastructure when this guy, Brad Smith, I don't know his intentions.

00:28:18.000 He works for Microsoft, so he's probably a bad guy, but he warns that life will become like George Orwell's 1984 by 2024.

00:28:24.000 And we keep on getting these warnings, it's going to happen.

00:28:27.000 Remember, the cameras and our iPhones go both ways.

00:28:29.000 It's not just you taking selfies.

00:28:31.000 Someone's looking at you.

00:28:33.000 And so we are either going to control this technology and put it where we can use it, and we're going to have a pro-human agenda, or we're going to live under a dystopian tyranny where everything you say, do, and think is monitored for the good of the party, whatever that might be.

00:28:49.000 If that terrifies you, it should, and you should demand out of your leaders dramatic and bold action to control artificial intelligence because it's going to control us soon.

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00:29:44.000 This is going to be one of those things that if we do not address in our country, all of a sudden we're going to be living in a country, just a type of society that none of us recognize.

00:29:56.000 And we'll be wondering, what were our leaders doing during all this?

00:29:59.000 Oh, the answer is they were cutting corporate taxes.

00:30:01.000 That's what the Republican Party was doing.

00:30:03.000 Now, we have a couple of years to get this right.

00:30:05.000 And so if the Republican Party actually wants to govern and lead, they need to establish an entire legislative agenda around regulating and controlling artificial intelligence.

00:30:18.000 They need to do so quickly.

00:30:20.000 And so all the corporate types, they use American nationalism against our leaders.

00:30:25.000 So they go into DC.

00:30:26.000 This is always their talking point.

00:30:27.000 It drives me nuts.

00:30:28.000 Lawmakers say this to me all the time when I tell them, well, why are you not regulating these companies?

00:30:32.000 They say, oh, well, Charlie, would you much rather have Chinese Facebook rule the world?

00:30:37.000 I say, what are you talking about? 0.96

00:30:37.000 Facebook is Chinese Facebook. 0.96

00:30:39.000 So is Google.

00:30:40.000 What are you talking about?

00:30:42.000 Our companies don't love our country.

00:30:44.000 In fact, we're going to get into this in the next couple of days.

00:30:46.000 Zuckerberg funded all this nonsense around the displacement of Donald Trump this last year.

00:30:54.000 He was behind all of that. 0.89

00:30:55.000 What do you mean, Chinese Facebook? 1.00

00:30:57.000 You mean that I'm supposed to actually think that our tech companies have any sort of loyalty to America, that they're actually doing anything meaningful? 0.96

00:31:04.000 What value are they creating except boosting stock prices for their very few shareholders?

00:31:11.000 What else are they doing?

00:31:13.000 What good has Google done for the world recently?

00:31:16.000 Okay, you can get information fast.

00:31:17.000 There's other search engines too.

00:31:20.000 They addict your children to smartphones. 0.78

00:31:22.000 They push garbage and censorship on YouTube.

00:31:25.000 So, what exactly are they doing for the betterment of humanity? 0.66

00:31:30.000 And if we're going to do nothing about artificial intelligence, I actually think this is an agreement issue on some of the Democrats.

00:31:37.000 The Democrats that used to chain themselves to sequoia trees in Northern California because they were worried about developers.

00:31:45.000 Where are those Democrats?

00:31:46.000 I would imagine the Sierra Club Democrats, who, of course, have just become pathological anti-Republican, conservative environmentalists.

00:31:55.000 Where are they?

00:31:56.000 Because I guess their whole belief behind environmentalism is that you want things to stay the same, right?

00:32:02.000 I'm stunned.

00:32:03.000 And Republicans are obviously, I don't actually expect Republicans to lead on this issue because Republicans have far too often become the party of false promise of economic growth.

00:32:12.000 And there's no economic growth happening when you have artificial intelligence like this at all.

00:32:16.000 In fact, you're going to have destruction and displacement.

00:32:19.000 So is that a good thing for the country and for humanity if we're all just kind of living under a society where all the meaningful decisions are happening in a server room by not human beings, but by a creation of human beings?

00:32:34.000 That's where this is headed.

00:32:36.000 And so we have plenty of decisions.

00:32:39.000 Of course, we can control it.

00:32:40.000 Absolutely.

00:32:40.000 We still have an opportunity right now.

00:32:44.000 And I'd be very interested to hear what the free market response is to all this, the libertarian response.

00:32:48.000 Oh, yeah, just kind of let it play out.

00:32:52.000 Yeah, I'm not buying that.

00:32:55.000 And so this is a discussion that has not happened enough.

00:32:59.000 This is not a topic that anyone is willing to have, but even Newt Gingrich has said that artificial intelligence is the biggest threat to our nation and to our society.

00:33:10.000 Yet our leaders are debating a $1 trillion infrastructure package to probably just give even more money to these tech companies.

00:33:18.000 If conservatives are going to be good for anything, it's not going to be about this progressive conservatism.

00:33:26.000 It's about being very clear about things that are eternal, things that do not change.

00:33:33.000 In 20 years, if we do nothing, we will be living not under the tyranny of the left, but under the tyranny of whoever controls artificial intelligence, or maybe artificial intelligence will control them under a surveillance state that will know everything about you, more than you can even remember about yourself.

00:33:54.000 But why do we have to indulge in this?

00:33:55.000 The answer is we don't.

00:33:57.000 We make the rules, not the tech companies, not the people that run them, that all they care about is the next power kick so they can be worth $200 billion.

00:34:07.000 We can actually create something beautiful, something eternal, as close to eternal as we get on this world, and something that matters, that transcends all of this.

00:34:17.000 That's what the conservative movement should stand for.

00:34:21.000 And if your leaders are not standing clearly against this artificial intelligence movement, and if they have no answer to that, because I just talked to some leaders and they were like, well, I don't really quite understand the issue.

00:34:35.000 What are you doing?

00:34:37.000 Worrying about marginal corporate tax rates so you can give these money, these companies, more money?

00:34:42.000 Anyway, we got on that sidetrack, but that's what's so fun about our show is we don't even know where we're going.

00:34:48.000 Elon Musk believes that deep mind is the top concern.

00:34:52.000 Back in 2014, he said this.

00:34:56.000 We have a little time.

00:34:57.000 What are we going to do about it?

00:34:58.000 Our humanity is at stake.

00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:03.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:06.000 God bless you.

00:35:07.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 28, 2021

Unmasking the Existential Threat of Artificial Intelligence

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