In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk talks about the recent mass conformity test debacle in Uvalde, Texas, and why we need to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. He also discusses the importance of student activism and the need for a student-led political movement.
00:00:50.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:58.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:19.000You were just talking about how we're going to be at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit next week in Tampa, Florida.
00:01:25.000Real America's Voice is going to have a big presence there.
00:01:28.000And if you are anywhere in the Southeast, well, actually, if you're anywhere in the country, you should really consider coming.
00:01:33.000It's going to be one of the most amazing events of the year.
00:01:36.000We have phenomenal speakers already confirmed.
00:01:39.000And so we have from Turning Point Action, we have Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis that will be there.
00:01:45.000And then Turning Point USA, we have Kaylee McEnany, Ted Cruz, Laura Ingram, Josh Hawley, Greg Gutfeld, Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle, Kat Timf, Pete Hegseth, Congressman Byron Donalds, Ben Carson, Senator Rick Scott, Congresswoman Lauren Boebert,
00:02:01.000Governor Kevin Stitt, Congresswoman Kat Kamick, Congressman Matt Gates, Jack Pesobic, Benny Johnson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Dave Rubin, Victor Marks, Sean Foyt, and a group of great pastors as well, David Engelhart, Mark Burns, Samuel Duth, and Rob McCoy, all at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit.
00:02:20.000And people of all ages are able to come.
00:02:22.000It's a student-focused event, but all ages, I encourage you to be there.
00:02:26.000If you live in Florida, if you're driving distance to Tampa, it will invigorate you.
00:02:30.000It's a non-stop immersion event in freedom.
00:02:33.000We're going to be doing our show from Tampa, Florida on Friday.
00:02:37.000And then we're going to have Ron DeSantis that evening, Donald Trump on Saturday night.
00:02:42.000And it's just part of this growing movement that we have at Turning Point USA of high school chapters, of college chapters that are rising up.
00:02:51.000And this is something I want to touch on, but there is this citizen-led movement in our country that is very promising.
00:03:00.000Someone sent us an email yesterday, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:03:04.000They said, Charlie, the only thing that's different with all the globalist aims and ambitions is that the more they push, the more the people are awakened.
00:03:24.000And we're seeing it all across the country.
00:03:26.000We're seeing it in countries like the Netherlands.
00:03:29.000We just saw a massive victory happened in France, by the way.
00:03:32.000We'll talk about that, how the French parliament met and basically got rid of vaccine passports and got rid of COVID testing to get into the French government.
00:03:41.000We're starting to see this happen in every corner of the country in a very profound and major and significant way.
00:03:49.000And that's all going to kind of be culminating at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit.
00:04:26.000For years, the radical left and what we have seen on college campuses, they have been pushing for this idea that we must destroy toxic masculinity.
00:04:38.000That masculinity itself is something that we must deconstruct.
00:04:42.000That the reason we have high crime, the reason we have widespread chaos, the reason we have all the suffering is because of men and masculinity.
00:04:51.000As taught in most schools, it says the following: quote, toxic masculinity involves cultural pressures for men to behave in a certain way.
00:04:59.000And it's likely this affects all boys and men in some fashion.
00:05:03.000Toxic masculinity refers to the notion that some people's ideas of manliness perpetuate domination, homophobia, and aggression.
00:05:17.000The idea of toxic masculinity is this idea that men trying to use their strength to protect people that are not as strong is inherently wrong.
00:05:26.000As if the idea of a man is someone who's out of control, belligerent and dominating, not someone who is prudent and looking after protecting the innocent.
00:05:35.000Now, this whole idea of toxic masculinity is pushed by a group of college academics who they themselves want to try to feminize the country.
00:05:44.000There's been a lot of great scholarship on this in the last couple of decades.
00:05:49.000Now, there have been a combination of these cultural and political influences over the last couple of decades.
00:05:55.000And unfortunately, it has real-life consequences.
00:05:58.000Now, we need to break free of the tempting paradigm.
00:06:02.000I mean, tempting, it's very alluring to try to just all of a sudden put on our team right jersey and say we must defend everything that the left hates at all times, no matter the circumstances.
00:06:15.000Now, let me preface this by saying, I'm very pro-police, and I know you are too.
00:06:20.000Our police are heroes, they do a wonderful job.
00:06:23.000A country without police, defunding the police is the dumbest idea ever, and we cannot tolerate it.
00:06:29.000But we as conservatives should not get into the business of defending cowardly, immoral, inappropriate behavior just because that just because that person is a cop.
00:06:40.000You need to be pro-facts, you need to be pro-truth.
00:06:43.000You need to understand the circumstances.
00:07:20.000We had many of our listeners say automatically the police are heroes for what they did in Uvalde because they've been trained like Pavlovian dogs.
00:07:30.000Oh, conflict, the police must be in the right.
00:07:35.000Generally, the media tries to stoke too much emotion.
00:07:38.000Generally, the media does have an anti-cop campaign.
00:07:42.000The recent revelations, what we have seen in the last couple of hours, only further vindicates our original argument where we said that this, and it's not too, it's not a bridge too far to say this, that if the cops would have acted, it could have been a situation where one or two children might have tragically died, or zero children might have died.
00:08:09.000New images have been leaked from the Uvalde police situation.
00:08:14.000And it all ties to this idea of the left trying to attack masculinity because what we saw were men in air quotes who call themselves men that acted like chickens, cowards, whatever word you want to put.
00:08:29.000Now, I'm going to talk about some of the cultural factors that play into this.
00:08:34.000Maybe they were afraid of being sued as a police officer and all this.
00:09:20.000Cops responding to the Uvalde, Texas shooting, ran away from gunshots while 19 children and two teachers were left to die in their classrooms, according to the New York Post.
00:09:28.000The disturbing new video obtained by the Austin American statesman shows how police officers dilly-dallied in the hallway of the Robb Elementary School instead of charging towards 18-year-old gunman Ramos as he systematically slaughtered 21 people on May 24th.
00:09:55.000The 77-minute clip shows officers rushing into the school just minutes.
00:10:00.000So this was the hour delay was of their own making after the 18-year-old Ramos began his rampage.
00:10:07.000But rather than confront him, they stopped and lingered with one cop in a helmet and a vest who, while the children are being slaughtered, checked his cell phone and went to go get hand sanitizer.
00:10:24.000So at least he wasn't going to catch germs while children are being slaughtered.
00:10:44.000So they're getting fired at and they just run away.
00:10:47.000The video validates reports that local and state authorities failed to take immediate action to stop the bloodbath despite just yards from the shooter.
00:10:58.000Picture after picture shows officers on their phones, potentially scrolling through social media.
00:11:04.000We don't know what they're doing on their phones, but it was minutes where they were just kind of flipping through their phone.
00:11:09.000Maybe they were doing a TikTok video while kids were being slaughtered.
00:11:15.000It's not until 77 minutes into the recording that the cops finally breached the classroom where Ramos, who died in the attack, had gunned down the innocent kids and teachers.
00:11:23.000It is conceivable, we don't know this for sure, that if the cops would have acted with precision and action and courage, it would not have been a 21-child slaughter.
00:11:52.000He's mad that this footage and these pictures have leaked.
00:11:56.000How dare you leak the fact that our police officers were flipping through social media and getting hand sanitizer while children are getting slaughtered.
00:12:23.000And yes, the war on police play a role and the BLM stuff plays a role and the toxic masculinity stuff all plays a role, but enough.
00:12:31.000Who are you as a human being who sits on your phone and gets hand sanitizer while children get slaughtered?
00:12:41.000The Uvalde police officers could have shot the gunman, but then they waited for the supervisor's approval.
00:12:48.000And then the Uvalde mayor, this slob who calls himself a politician, who should resign in disgrace, he says, well, I dispute the report that officers had an early chance to shoot the gunman.
00:13:02.00077 minutes of police officers flipping through their phone and getting hand sanitizer.
00:13:08.000What does that say for where we are as a country?
00:13:13.000Look, we talk about current events a lot on this show, but there's other things that are in life that are bigger than current events, bigger things.
00:13:18.000We try to do some shows every so often on these things.
00:13:22.000But look, what am I talking about when I say that?
00:13:25.000Right and wrong, prayer and the Bible or heaven and hell.
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00:16:47.000I think that the anti-cop narrative might have played into some of their inaction, but I don't take it as an excuse, and you shouldn't either.
00:16:54.000You're trying to tell me that it's because of all the anti-cop rhetoric that the guy was like, well, I got to flip through my phone and get hand sanitizer.
00:17:11.000They said this, Charlie, I think the cops acted inappropriately, but we must understand they were afraid that maybe they would have gone to jail for wrong firearm discharge and all this.
00:17:31.000Part of the job as a law enforcement officer and a cop, and many of them are far more courageous than I am.
00:17:39.000Of course, they go into this every single day, is that they go straight into the line of fire and they're willing to put their life on the line.
00:17:45.000And part of that social contract is then we as taxpayers will make an obligation for pension benefits and healthcare benefits and support them.
00:17:54.000And we should, by the way, that's why we celebrate them.
00:17:57.000And what angers me so much, and what should anger you is this gives a bad name for police officers all across the country.
00:18:55.000Let's play cut 51, which is the officers intentionally run toward the classroom where the kids are, but once they hear the gunfire, they run away.
00:19:08.000So as soon as the cops hear gunfire, they run away from the shooter.
00:19:12.000What we did not know up until this latest leak is that the cops were in the building before they went into the classroom, before this maniac went in the classroom.
00:19:21.000They very well could have neutralized him before he killed a single kid.
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00:21:02.000Mr. Kirk, you're irresponsible, incompetent, and objectively foolish, as in the absence of wisdom, diatribe today, about law enforcement delaying entry into the Uvalde school is no better than Obama's reaction airy idiocy when he was president.
00:21:16.000By the way, we have tons of these when I did this.
00:21:19.000Do not throw away the credibility you've built.
00:23:05.000The heroes that I know, that I have met, that stormed the beaches in Normandy and ran into the towers of 9-11 and barely survived before they collapsed, just following orders, I don't think is a sufficient explanation or excuse when you hear the screams of children being murdered for 77 minutes.
00:23:29.000Just following orders is an excuse that is given by the century guards of totalitarian governments in every corner of the planet.
00:23:41.000I was just following orders to get people on the train.
00:23:53.000I think they some of the police officers who did this, who let the children get slaughtered when they were flipping through their phones or getting hand sanitizer, you're going to see a lot of them commit suicide, tragically.
00:24:07.000You're going to see a lot of problems in their marriages, a lot of psychological trauma.
00:24:12.000And some of them for the rest of their life are going to have to work through that if they don't kill themselves.
00:24:16.000I don't want them to do that, but it's just, unfortunately, after these mass traumatic events, you do see a lot of that happen.
00:24:53.000The country that I grew up in and that many of you remember before the war on toxic master, the toxic masculinity, the war on police, before BLM, before these stupid smartphones, the country that many of you remember was the country that stormed the cockpit of Flight 93.
00:25:16.000The country that ran into the two towers, civilians, regular people.
00:25:22.00077 minutes of paralysis as this was happening.
00:25:27.000So I believe these police officers need to be held criminally accountable, especially the people giving the orders.
00:25:34.000You could chalk it up to criminal negligence, to something even more severe than that.
00:25:40.000I'm not a prosecutor and I don't play one on TV.
00:25:46.000For you on television, you'll be able to see it.
00:25:48.000This is the shooter walking in the hallway, and a child sees him and runs away.
00:25:53.000I don't know if this is before or after the police officers running away from them, but play Cut 62.
00:26:06.000Kids coming around the corner, shots fired.
00:26:08.000What we didn't know up until recently is the cops were just steps away.
00:26:14.000So what was the psychological reason this all happened?
00:26:18.000It's easy to blame it on cowardice, and I definitely think that's part of it.
00:26:24.000But the reason I'm spending as much time as I am on this is let's use this as a nationwide teaching moment for all of us to understand the power of conformity.
00:26:38.000You see, courageous people that think independently are able to break free of conforming mass psychosis and act appropriately.
00:26:48.000So there was a very famous psychological test called the Ash Conformity Test, ASCH.
00:26:56.000It was part of what was called the Ash Conformity Experiments.
00:27:00.000It was conducted by a guy by the name of Solomon Ash.
00:27:04.000These experiments reveal the degree to which one person's own opinions and actions are influenced by those of a group.
00:27:14.000So basically what they would do is they would show three different lines, one that was noticeably and inarguably longer than the other.
00:27:23.000So, they would have basically a group of students, let's say 10 students that were all in on it.
00:27:29.000And then they would have an 11th student who was not in on it.
00:27:32.000And the 11th student would enter into the classroom.
00:27:34.000The 10 students would all then be asked the question: hey, which line is the longest line?
00:27:42.000And the 10 students before the 11th student would all pick the second longest line, not the longest line.
00:27:48.000And so, one after the other would intentionally being in on the experiment make it seem as if they were picking a line that was not correct.
00:28:00.000What was extraordinary is that over 80% of the time, either 70 or 80% of the time, I could look into the actual documents that Solomon Ash published, the 11th person would then go against their own instinctive, let's say, gut reaction, and they would go with the 105%.
00:28:25.000Would go with the 10 prior people that would pick the not as long line.
00:28:31.000Now, we all know that B is the longest line, for example.
00:28:34.000But what was so amazing about the Ash conformity test, and it's been replicated across the world in different cultures, different backgrounds, different ages, different demographics with controls and all of that, and it works almost every time scientifically, right around 75%, is that you're looking right now at the thing on the screen, the measurement on the screen, is that we all know B is the longest line, but everyone would say that A is the longest line.
00:28:59.000And 75% of people would then go along with what was said prior just because the other 10 people said what they knew was not true.
00:29:07.000They did not believe their lying eyes.
00:29:10.000And what we saw in Uvalde is a tragic and instantaneous example of mass conformity.
00:29:21.000The ash conformity experiments showed that even someone who's an independent free thinker, someone who is very smart, someone who might know what to do, who's courageous, might be succumbed to a different pattern of behavior.
00:29:42.000And so, this is a good lesson for all of us, myself included.
00:29:46.000God forbid you ever have to be in a situation where the shots are firing.
00:29:52.000But when they are, are we going to conform?
00:29:57.000Are you going to conform to the next thing?
00:30:01.000And I don't think it's disconnected to say that the conformity of cowardice that we saw in Uvalde for 77 minutes is directly connected with some of the mass formation psychosis that we have seen over the last couple of years.
00:30:15.000Put a black square in your Instagram to fight systemic racism.
00:30:34.000Is it too far to say, and I don't think it is, but you might disagree, that we have created a paralysis of conformity where people know that the children are being slaughtered and they go to their only defense mechanism.
00:30:56.000And all of this is related with our relentless war on men in our country and toxic masculinity.
00:31:05.000How many other examples are happening while this one is one that we should focus on?
00:31:15.000Because I think that it is a microcosm of a macro sickness.
00:31:22.000I think it is a microcosm of something that's happening almost every single day.
00:31:28.000How many times, maybe in a less, let's just say a less compressed example, are we seeing evil happen around us and we check our phone or we go to get hand sanitizer?
00:31:44.000How often are we seeing, and again, it's not as graphic or as tragic as 21 kids being slaughtered in front of us, but it'd be happening in slow motion around us.
00:31:55.000Or is it now the generational perspective of that's not my problem?
00:32:10.000They're going to have to have an explanation and to hold themselves, they're going to be held accountable, hopefully for the rest of their life.
00:32:18.000What the celebrities tell us is right or what to do, people conform to almost instantaneously.
00:32:27.000And I just want to say this: most cops are wonderful.
00:32:32.000But you must hold accountable of which the things you love.
00:32:37.000I'm not going to tolerate, as an American, and you shouldn't either, a law enforcement officer who goes to get hand sanitizer and checks his phone while children are being slaughtered.
00:32:51.000There's something deeper going on here: spiritual sickness, a moral weakness, a lack of action.
00:33:03.000I asked the question earlier this week: are we ready for a war with China?
00:33:10.000Before we're even ready to answer that question, let's ask ourselves the question: are we willing to storm a classroom to save 21 kids from being slaughtered?
00:33:19.000Or are we too busy getting hand sanitizer and looking through our phones?
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00:34:13.000The more confusion we have about what a man is and what a woman is, do not be surprised when you start to see men be cowards, confused, and unable to act in a way to defend the beautiful, the weak, the good, or the innocent.
00:34:32.000You could tell a lot about a society on whether or not they are willing to put their lives or their reputations on the line to defend those that cannot defend themselves.
00:34:43.000Somebody asked me a question once when I was at University of California, Berkeley, and they said, Charlie, why is abortion wrong?
00:35:07.000Greater love knows, there's no greater love known than this than those who are willing to lay down their life for their friends or for those around them, to the original Koigne Greek.
00:35:20.000Were those what moral paradigm were those cops operating from?
00:35:28.000But they were caring more about self-preservation, maybe living up to get their pension, go getting a country home, and not caring about the words that used to build America, that our beautiful veterans follow every single day.
00:35:41.000And by the way, 99% of cops do every single day: duty and honor.
00:35:49.000Well, I know in our military now they're teaching transgender pronouns and they're teaching CRT and they have drag queens at Air Force bases.
00:35:58.000That word duty and honor, what does that even mean anymore?
00:36:03.000Remember, this is why the climax of all the stories that we hold so near and dear of Star Wars, of Lord of the Rings, of Harry Potter, the climax of those is the evil transforming to the dark side and they have to kill the innocent.
00:36:22.000Like, remember, Star Wars Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith, you must kill the young.
00:36:27.000It's the ultimate shift into darkness.
00:36:39.000The Greeks, the Romans, the Chinese, Indus River Valley, the Mesopotamians, they all always have a fascination with the termination of children.
00:37:27.000For a long time, I've crisscrossed the country and I've said we have to be very careful about being a spectator for what's happening in the country.
00:37:35.000I can't think of a, unfortunately, tragically, a better metaphor than what we saw in Uvalde of people that had the power, the guns, the vests, the training, and they were like, it's not my problem.
00:37:48.000It's not my kid goes to private school.