The Charlie Kirk Show - June 04, 2024


Vance for Veep


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35 minutes

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00:02:52.000 This very well might be one of the most important vice presidential picks in American history.
00:02:59.000 Whomever Donald Trump selects as VP is going to have to wear multiple hats.
00:03:06.000 It's going to have to be someone who can help the movement and not bring it down.
00:03:11.000 It has to be someone that excites the base but doesn't turn off independent voters.
00:03:16.000 And of course, if they try to throw Donald Trump in prison, someone who can be a stand-in, someone who can help run the government, someone who is young enough and connected with the needs, wants, concerns, anxieties of the younger generation while still having a connection to Gen X and baby boomers.
00:03:37.000 Whomever Donald Trump selects as vice president has to be loyal.
00:03:42.000 It cannot be someone who is leaking constantly in the New York Times, the Washington Post, someone who doesn't share the worldview.
00:03:49.000 You see, in many times past, as we saw in the 1980s, Ronald Reagan took over the Republican Party, but the internationalist globalist Chamber of Commerce donors put in H.W. Bush.
00:04:02.000 And H.W. Bush was constantly undercutting Ronald Reagan's presidency.
00:04:08.000 H.W. Bush and his central intelligence agency leanings and connections was the beginning of the deep state from Reagan's revolution.
00:04:18.000 Donald Trump in 2016, they put in Mike Pence to kind of keep an eye on things.
00:04:23.000 That is the formula.
00:04:25.000 Populist, nationalist, people-centered movement at the top of the ticket and a transactional Chamber of Commerce donor-appointed vice president.
00:04:36.000 Now, the names that are being discussed for vice president, the finalists, if you will, according to public reports and some little whispers I'm hearing, is Doug Bergham.
00:04:46.000 We're hearing Marco Rubio, JD Vance.
00:04:50.000 Someone said the other day, Haggerty from Tennessee, Senator Haggerty.
00:04:55.000 I don't know if that's true or not.
00:04:56.000 That one seems a little distant.
00:04:59.000 But it seems as if that the final three or final four, and then Tim Scott would be on the list.
00:05:04.000 The final four would be Tim Scott, JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and Doug Bergham.
00:05:11.000 Let's go one by one.
00:05:12.000 Doug Bergum and I have certainly had our disagreements.
00:05:14.000 He's been very loyal to President Trump.
00:05:17.000 No huge issue with that.
00:05:18.000 However, the word that most of you email us when it comes to Doug Bergham is boring.
00:05:24.000 That's the word that we get.
00:05:25.000 Not exactly exciting.
00:05:27.000 You could do worse than Doug Bergum, but not someone who would necessarily electrify the base.
00:05:32.000 Marco Rubio.
00:05:33.000 Marco's been better in recent years, but he is definitely more in the mold of a chamber of commerce, moderate, internationalist, some would say more regime-friendly candidate than others.
00:05:50.000 Tim Scott.
00:05:52.000 Tim Scott has not been the fighter in the U.S. Senate that we would have hoped.
00:05:56.000 Now, again, Tim Scott is someone that you would want on your church elder board.
00:06:00.000 Tim Scott is someone that you would be happy as a neighbor.
00:06:04.000 Like, hey, knock on a door.
00:06:05.000 Hey, I'm not a laundry detergent.
00:06:07.000 Do you have any, Mr. Scott?
00:06:08.000 Of course.
00:06:09.000 Hey, do you, I'm sorry, I ran out of butter.
00:06:12.000 Do you have any?
00:06:12.000 Like, Tim Scott would be the first guy to drive you to the airport at 5 a.m.
00:06:18.000 Sweet guy.
00:06:18.000 Nice guy.
00:06:19.000 I don't know if he's VP material.
00:06:21.000 And then that leaves us with JD Vance.
00:06:25.000 JD Vance, I believe, checks all the boxes.
00:06:28.000 JD Vance has so many positives going for him, and they must be repeated.
00:06:37.000 And I think it's important that the JD Vance conversation, we also talk about the one negative that he has.
00:06:47.000 And the one negative, I actually think, is an immense positive.
00:06:51.000 I have a new article out that is a, it's doing very well on the Federalist.
00:06:56.000 Why JD Vance is Trump's ideal running mate.
00:06:59.000 Now, you might have another ideal.
00:07:01.000 I want to tell you again, the finalists.
00:07:03.000 Doug Bergum, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, Tim Scott.
00:07:05.000 That's all public reporting and a couple whispers that I hear in the inner circle.
00:07:10.000 JD Vance out of those four is by far the best.
00:07:12.000 He's by far no matter who's in the contention.
00:07:15.000 We write in the Federalist, JD Vance understands better than anyone both why Trump succeeded in the first term and how to make him succeed in the second.
00:07:26.000 President Trump's vice presidential search is in the home stretch.
00:07:29.000 Trump must pick a running mate prior to the RNC in mid-July, but he has ample incentive to pick one sooner.
00:07:36.000 The sooner he makes the pick, the sooner that individual can prepare for a vice presidential debate, which could be held as soon as July.
00:07:42.000 But the days of wild speculation are past, and the time for serious decision-making is here.
00:07:48.000 And weighing the pros and cons of each possible selection, I realize the best choice has been obvious all along.
00:07:55.000 Senator JD Vance of Ohio.
00:07:58.000 He is the only veteran in the final four contention.
00:08:03.000 He grew up in a dysfunctional family in the exurbs of Cincinnati.
00:08:08.000 He speaks for the forgotten man.
00:08:11.000 For those that do not know, he's a best-selling author of the book, Hillbilly Elegy, which also became a Netflix series.
00:08:18.000 He understands the working class better than any other candidate, the muscular class, the forgotten America.
00:08:27.000 He's a proven winner who defeated a tough Republican field in the Ohio primary and then a very formidable Democrat opponent in what turned out to be a tougher than expected 2022 midterm election.
00:08:43.000 But I write here, Vance is not just a populist totem.
00:08:47.000 He's incredibly smart.
00:08:48.000 He may have the single best brain in the entire U.S. Congress for grasping what must be done to complete the Trump realignment on the border, on foreign policy, and on draining the swamp.
00:09:01.000 He is wicked smart.
00:09:02.000 He is the smartest member of the U.S. Senate.
00:09:05.000 Joe Biden was the dumbest member of the U.S. Senate.
00:09:08.000 JD Vance is by far the smartest person in the Senate.
00:09:12.000 Maybe Rand Paul would be up there.
00:09:13.000 Maybe Josh Hawley would be up there.
00:09:15.000 As far as brainpower, as far as the ability to process information, understand, JD Vance ran successful businesses before this.
00:09:22.000 He's made a lot of money.
00:09:23.000 He's best-selling author across the board, made a bunch of money, came from a forgotten part of the country, understands those needs, wants, and concerns, speaks to them effectively.
00:09:35.000 And he is terrific on the three big issues that the neocons try to force feed us.
00:09:41.000 He is the best on the Ukraine war of anybody.
00:09:45.000 He is the best on foreign trade and importing plastics and nonsense from overseas.
00:09:51.000 And he is the best on the issue of mass immigration.
00:09:56.000 Unlike many Trump-inspired politicians, Vance isn't simply a discount Trump trying to be same thing but worse.
00:10:04.000 He won't outshine Trump and fail or act outlandishly to try and copy him and look ridiculous instead.
00:10:10.000 Vance has his own style, more restrained and more serious, yet equally rock solid on the issues.
00:10:17.000 The single best message Trump has in 2024 is a straightforward one.
00:10:21.000 This is the first election in 130 years where both men have been president before.
00:10:26.000 Compare their records.
00:10:27.000 Period.
00:10:28.000 End of story.
00:10:29.000 That is the election.
00:10:30.000 We compare the records.
00:10:32.000 We win the narrative.
00:10:34.000 We win the argument.
00:10:35.000 Who did it better?
00:10:36.000 That is what the 2024 election is all about.
00:10:38.000 Put it on posters, put it on signs, commit it to memory.
00:10:42.000 Who did it better?
00:10:45.000 Democrats want this to be an election of distractions, criminal trials, media sensationalism, and Christian nationalism fear-mongering.
00:10:52.000 Trump should not take the bait.
00:10:54.000 This election is about who was a better president.
00:10:56.000 And JD Vance understands better than anyone why Trump succeeded in the first term and how to make him succeed in the second.
00:11:03.000 Now, we're going to keep talking about this because it involves Nebraska, and I'm going to give you a Nebraska update in just a second.
00:11:08.000 This involves the electoral map.
00:11:10.000 This involves what people would say is the number one reason why we shouldn't pick JD Vance, which I actually think is a positive waiting to happen.
00:11:20.000 There's something in JD Vance's past that the audience says, oh, it's a terrible thing.
00:11:25.000 It's terrible.
00:11:26.000 I actually think it's wonderful.
00:11:28.000 I'm going to tell you about it.
00:11:29.000 I want to hear your thoughts and your reaction.
00:11:30.000 Out of those final four that we know of, Doug Bergam, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, JD Vance, who do you think?
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00:12:46.000 I want to play Cut 67 here.
00:12:47.000 This is JD Vance defending the president this last weekend.
00:12:52.000 Play Cut 67.
00:12:54.000 This judge committed multiple elements of reversible error, and he did it while his daughter has made a ton of money off of Democratic candidates.
00:13:02.000 And while he himself donated to the Biden campaign, you cannot say that this trial was anything more than politics masquerading as justice.
00:13:12.000 He has this superpower, JD Vance.
00:13:15.000 And the superpower is he always has a calmer disposition than who is interviewing him.
00:13:23.000 That is exactly what you want in a VP with Trump.
00:13:28.000 Steady hands.
00:13:30.000 He doesn't get too fired up, tough but measured.
00:13:33.000 It's a way of just kind of walking through, saying, yeah, this was a show trial.
00:13:39.000 It's beautifully put.
00:13:40.000 I'm going to keep on going through all the positives, but let me just take a pause and I want to address the negative.
00:13:45.000 The negative is that, well, Charlie, JD Vance was not a Trump supporter back in 2016 and 2017.
00:13:52.000 It's true.
00:13:52.000 This is well known.
00:13:53.000 This has been covered and figured out.
00:13:55.000 I think this is terrific.
00:13:58.000 Why?
00:13:59.000 It makes his growth real.
00:14:03.000 If we are serious about winning in 2024, having a VP who was once skeptical and then became a fan and became a follower is legit.
00:14:15.000 That's somebody who has true beliefs.
00:14:17.000 That is someone who is willing to reconsider, who has a worldview and says, my goodness, this guy's advancing the worldview.
00:14:25.000 We want to encourage those people who might not have been MAGA in 2020, who might not have been very pro-Trump in 2000, which JD was.
00:14:36.000 This was eight or nine years ago, just so we're clear.
00:14:38.000 This was back in 2015, just so we're clear, which there are a lot of people that were skeptical on the Trump thing.
00:14:45.000 And it shows an open mind and humility.
00:14:47.000 In fact, if we want to win, to have someone say, guys, I wasn't always on board of the Trump train, but I am.
00:14:53.000 And let me tell you why.
00:14:54.000 That is an opening to connect to skeptics, to connect to swing voters.
00:15:01.000 Somebody says, guys, let me be very honest with you.
00:15:03.000 I wasn't sure what to make of the entire Trump thing, but my goodness, am I an enthusiastic believer?
00:15:08.000 Why?
00:15:09.000 Biggest blue-collar boom in 40 years.
00:15:11.000 Middle-class wages were going up.
00:15:13.000 Inflation was non-existent.
00:15:15.000 No new wars.
00:15:16.000 We had a border.
00:15:17.000 Three Supreme Court justices.
00:15:18.000 We were getting our confidence back as a country.
00:15:22.000 JD Vance can help with the hold your nose voters.
00:15:27.000 The, I can't take it.
00:15:28.000 I'm going to hold my nose.
00:15:29.000 I'm going to go with Trump.
00:15:30.000 It allows people an additional reason to vote for Trump.
00:15:35.000 Not to mention, this is not someone who is going to be undercutting Trump like Mike Pence or like George H.W. Bush.
00:15:43.000 This is someone who believes in MAGA just as much, if not more than Trump at times, on the three core issues.
00:15:50.000 Foreign intervention, immigration, trade.
00:15:54.000 JD Vance is terrific on all three.
00:15:56.000 And that segues to the Nebraska conversation.
00:16:01.000 That segues to the electoral map.
00:16:04.000 We must win a Rust Belt state.
00:16:08.000 Now, we're going to have some, we're going to be doing our Nebraska focus all summer.
00:16:12.000 In fact, we have some Nebraska news to share at the People's Convention.
00:16:16.000 They're going to call a special session on taxes.
00:16:18.000 We want to have them call a special session also on winner take all.
00:16:21.000 We are working on this behind the scenes.
00:16:24.000 And we just kind of have been steady on this.
00:16:27.000 But there will be a time when we turn up the temperature and you guys be ready.
00:16:30.000 We have not forgotten.
00:16:30.000 We have not lost track.
00:16:32.000 We're in constant communication.
00:16:33.000 We have got to get this done.
00:16:34.000 And I'm going to show you on the map why we have to get it done.
00:16:37.000 Not to mention, if JD Vance becomes vice president, who would be a great replacement for his Senate seat?
00:16:43.000 Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:16:46.000 He's from Ohio.
00:16:48.000 So you have Vivek become senator from Ohio.
00:16:51.000 JD Vance becomes vice president.
00:16:54.000 Win across the board.
00:16:56.000 But if we want to win, not just tie, because the Nebraska one is basically built on a tie which gets us to win in the House.
00:17:05.000 It comes down to the blue wall.
00:17:08.000 The blue wall used to include Ohio.
00:17:10.000 Not anymore.
00:17:11.000 Because of Donald Trump and people like JD Vance, Ohio is no longer part of the blue wall.
00:17:15.000 There are three components to the blue wall.
00:17:18.000 We win one of those components.
00:17:19.000 If we also win Arizona, Georgia, Donald Trump is president.
00:17:22.000 And this is why the Democrats are throwing him in prison.
00:17:24.000 They know the map.
00:17:24.000 By the way, we have been saying this for a year and a half.
00:17:28.000 This program has been way ahead of the curve on this.
00:17:30.000 We've been saying this for 18 months.
00:17:32.000 18 months, we've been saying this.
00:17:34.000 And we're going to show you the map.
00:17:36.000 And there's one candidate on the list, the final four, Bergham, Rubio, Vance, Scott, who's uniquely positioned to be a blue wall winner.
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00:18:51.000 The emails are coming in.
00:18:52.000 I'll tell you, you guys are flooding the email box.
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00:18:55.000 Overwhelmingly supportive of JD Vance.
00:18:58.000 Some of you guys are recommending other names.
00:19:00.000 I'm just telling you who the four finalists are.
00:19:03.000 And Ben Carson, Byron Donalds, and Marco Rubio.
00:19:08.000 You know what they all have in common?
00:19:10.000 Ben Carson, Byron Donalds, Marco Rubio.
00:19:13.000 They all live in Florida.
00:19:15.000 So it would require somebody leaving the state of Florida, 12th Amendment.
00:19:19.000 Both candidates can't be from the same state.
00:19:22.000 So because of that, you have the Tim Scott thing.
00:19:24.000 You got Marco Rubio, Bergham, JD Vance.
00:19:26.000 So I just want you to look at the criteria.
00:19:28.000 The final four, if you will, based on all public reporting, is Doug Bergham, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, Tim Scott.
00:19:36.000 And I could tell you that's legit based on people I've been talking to, and we're pretty well sourced in Trump world.
00:19:42.000 So I want to start with this.
00:19:43.000 I want to start with cut 71.
00:19:45.000 This is very important.
00:19:47.000 And this involves Nebraska.
00:19:48.000 We're going to pepper this in, okay?
00:19:49.000 This is cut 71.
00:19:52.000 This is if Donald Trump wins Iowa, which he will.
00:19:58.000 If he wins, this is a little bit, this map's a little bit screwed up.
00:20:01.000 This is if Nebraska fixes it, but that's all right.
00:20:04.000 I moved too fast.
00:20:05.000 That's not the point of this one.
00:20:06.000 This is if Trump wins Iowa, if Trump wins Ohio, if Trump wins North Carolina and wins Florida.
00:20:12.000 That's basic, those states look great.
00:20:14.000 Those states are basically on lock.
00:20:16.000 And if Trump flips Georgia, which is looking better and better.
00:20:20.000 Do you know, just can I take a pause really quick on Georgia?
00:20:24.000 I was re-watching the 2020 election night coverage.
00:20:29.000 Do you know that exit polling showed that 75% of Georgia voters in 2020 said that you should wear masks outside?
00:20:37.000 Now, you might say you don't believe that poll.
00:20:39.000 Think back to 2020.
00:20:40.000 The point is the electorate is way healthier for us than it was in 2020, and we still only fell 41,000 votes short.
00:20:49.000 The country lost its mind in 2020 is the point.
00:20:52.000 And Trump still fell 10,000 votes short in Georgia.
00:20:55.000 I was re-watch, I had to re-watch it like three times.
00:20:58.000 75% of Georgia voters in an exit poll.
00:21:03.000 Again, you might not think the exit poll is legit, even if it's like half wrong.
00:21:06.000 I mean, 75% said that you should wear masks outside.
00:21:10.000 So anyway, just I want you to think about that.
00:21:12.000 So Georgia, let's hopefully we'll flip.
00:21:15.000 We're putting a lot of work into that.
00:21:17.000 And let's put that back up, please, on screen.
00:21:19.000 Same one.
00:21:20.000 Arizona, if we flip.
00:21:22.000 Okay, here's the issue.
00:21:24.000 We'll leave Nevada aside for a second here.
00:21:27.000 If you do not win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin, one of those three, Joe Biden is president.
00:21:35.000 If you do not win one of those three.
00:21:37.000 Now, let's now go to cut, not cut.
00:21:40.000 Let's put 70 up.
00:21:41.000 Now, on 70, this is where Nebraska comes in, just so everyone knows.
00:21:46.000 If you flip Nevada, fix Nebraska, we go to 269.
00:21:50.000 That's the insurance policy.
00:21:51.000 I'm going to put on my Nebraska hat.
00:21:52.000 You know, I have this Nebraska hat on the table at all times.
00:21:55.000 We are not forgetting about Nebraska.
00:21:57.000 We've been quiet on it intentionally because they're not in session and they're ramping up.
00:22:02.000 This summer, this audience, we are going to demand action.
00:22:07.000 We're giving them a little space to breathe.
00:22:09.000 We are going to demand action.
00:22:10.000 That's if Nebraska fixes it.
00:22:12.000 Okay.
00:22:13.000 Now, I want to go to the final cut here because, again, it's whoever gets the 270 electoral votes becomes president.
00:22:19.000 The final one is 69, which I call the JD Vance map.
00:22:23.000 This is the JD Vance map.
00:22:24.000 This is if we flip Georgia, flip Arizona, which God willing we will, and we lose Nevada, because Nevada is very tricky.
00:22:32.000 Andrew is convinced we're flipping Nevada.
00:22:36.000 I'll believe it when I see it.
00:22:37.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:38.000 It's just Nevada is tough.
00:22:39.000 I want to believe that, but structurally, it is very, very hard to do.
00:22:43.000 But we'll see.
00:22:44.000 Now, you see, all of a sudden, Trump becomes president if you're able to win either Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan.
00:22:52.000 With Pennsylvania, it goes red, as you can see exhibited in that all of a sudden Trump gets the 281 electoral votes.
00:23:00.000 That's even if Nebraska doesn't fix.
00:23:03.000 That is even if Nebraska does not fix its, it's get its act together.
00:23:07.000 Which candidate out of the ones that are in contention in the final four, Doug Bergham, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, or JD Vance have the best chance of helping in the industrial rust belt, specifically Pennsylvania.
00:23:25.000 Remember, Pennsylvania and Ohio, they're neighbors.
00:23:28.000 They share a huge border.
00:23:30.000 The values of eastern Ohio, which JD Vance did very well, are also the values of western Pennsylvania.
00:23:36.000 That is the home of the muscular class.
00:23:38.000 The home of the muscular class in America, where Donald Trump needs to run up the score and needs to do even better than he did in 2020, is in western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio.
00:23:53.000 That is where Trump needs to zero in on.
00:23:58.000 So again, out of the VP selections, Bergham, Marco, Vance, and Scott, there's only one that has actually won an office in that region of the world, who's currently holding office and is remarkably popular.
00:24:11.000 I write in the Federalist.
00:24:13.000 The second part is essential this.
00:24:14.000 Several candidates have credible claims they'll help Trump win in November, but Vance has that and would be an excellent help to Trump for the next four years, unlike Mike Pence before him.
00:24:23.000 Vance is in full ideological alignment with Trump.
00:24:26.000 Trump can delegate to Vance and his office without worrying his campaign promises will be ignored or betrayed.
00:24:32.000 Of course, nobody is owed the job of vice president just for being a dutiful soldier, but after the experience in the 2020 election, it's clear Trump should have second in command whose commitment to his political movement is beyond question.
00:24:45.000 As I write here, Vance has other bonuses.
00:24:48.000 He is the VP contender with the closest ties to the state that right now seems to have the best odds of deciding the election.
00:24:56.000 Right now, based on public polling, anecdotes, things we're seeing on the ground, and the data that we're collecting at turning point action, Arizona, Pennsylvania is the one-two combo.
00:25:06.000 Georgia is looking better and better.
00:25:08.000 Arizona, Pennsylvania is the one-two combo.
00:25:11.000 That is going to determine the entire republic.
00:25:14.000 Unless Nebraska changes to winner-take-all system, which we're working on, I want to be very clear.
00:25:18.000 We're working on Nebraska, everybody.
00:25:20.000 Trump will have to win one of the three Rust Belt states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
00:25:25.000 Now, we're not giving up on Wisconsin.
00:25:26.000 We are still deploying huge resources in Wisconsin at turning point action because we still think there's a path in Wisconsin, a good one, because Wisconsin, out of the three states, it has the worst polling right now out of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
00:25:41.000 But do you know what Wisconsin is the best at?
00:25:44.000 Hardest to cheat.
00:25:46.000 It is the hardest to cheat out of those three states by far.
00:25:49.000 The hardest to cheat in those three states.
00:25:51.000 Now, they still cheat like the Dickens in Wisconsin, but it is the hardest of the three states to cheat, without a doubt.
00:25:56.000 They've made recent laws to Zuckerboxes.
00:25:58.000 They made recent laws to ballot custody.
00:26:00.000 Remember, we just won some ballot referendum stuff on there.
00:26:02.000 Ron Johnson has won statewide.
00:26:06.000 So right now, Michigan has two Democrat senators.
00:26:09.000 Pennsylvania has two Democrat senators.
00:26:10.000 Senator Johnson won in Wisconsin.
00:26:12.000 He won by about 40,000 votes, 38, 40,000 votes.
00:26:16.000 Pennsylvania, however, has been polling the most favorably for Trump recently.
00:26:21.000 The rural voters of Pennsylvania are much like the rural voters of Ohio who elected Vance.
00:26:26.000 If Vance can help turn out even another 10,000 of them for Trump, that can make the difference between victory and defeat.
00:26:34.000 And now, while Ohio itself would not be close to this cycle, a key race there will be Senator Sherrod Brown's campaign for reelection.
00:26:41.000 A second Trump administration will be vastly stronger with a Republican-controlled Senate.
00:26:46.000 It will mean speedy confirmation of appointees, free hand on judges, all that stuff.
00:26:50.000 One of the best ways to take out Brown is to have a fellow Ohioan on the ballot with Trump.
00:26:56.000 So think about it.
00:26:57.000 If you want to win the Senate, you put Trump Vance on the ticket in Ohio.
00:27:03.000 Trump will overperform because there's another Ohioan and Ohioans love sending their own to the White House.
00:27:08.000 I think Ohio has the most presidents of any state, by the way.
00:27:11.000 Blake could fact-check me on that.
00:27:13.000 I think Ohio has the best, most states.
00:27:15.000 They have a ton of presidents.
00:27:16.000 They have like 18 or something.
00:27:17.000 Insane.
00:27:18.000 14.
00:27:19.000 One of the best ways to take out Sherrod Brown, boom, you control the Senate.
00:27:23.000 Vance also lacks the downsides that come with some of the other candidates.
00:27:27.000 Since he doesn't share a home in Florida with Trump, there's no awkwardness or lawfare with the 12th Amendment.
00:27:33.000 And that is JD Vance in a nutshell.
00:27:36.000 He's the complete package.
00:27:39.000 Swing state credibility, political chops, good on the campaign trail, was once a Trump skeptic and now is a devotee.
00:27:46.000 Good on the issue, smart as a whip, no fatal flaws.
00:27:48.000 He's the companion Donald Trump needs to win in November.
00:27:54.000 I want to play another piece of tape here.
00:27:56.000 Here's JD Vance defending President Trump this last week.
00:27:58.000 And meanwhile, Nikki Haley's sending rockets in Israel is doing something crazy.
00:28:02.000 Seriously, she's signing missiles or something.
00:28:05.000 It's weird.
00:28:06.000 Let's play cut 66.
00:28:10.000 What the Democrats are doing is shredding 250 years of constitutional tradition to go after their political opponent, Democrat or Republican, that should really bother you because I want to live in a country where we can have our Democratic debates, we can fight about politics, and at the end of the day, you don't try to throw the other guy in jail for winning an election.
00:28:29.000 Vance also re-emphasizes a lot of Trump's best strengths.
00:28:33.000 Trump has overwhelming anti-establishment credibility.
00:28:36.000 He's hated by the right people.
00:28:37.000 Vance is hit the same way by the press in D.C. There's a whole political hit piece hating on him.
00:28:42.000 Remember, Mitch McConnell did everything he could to try to defeat JD Vance in the primary of Ohio, and he failed.
00:28:48.000 Trump has a reflexive hatred of America's political BS.
00:28:52.000 He doesn't fall or repeat DC's concocted scams like Ukraine is a central part of American security or illegal immigrants do the jobs Americans won't do.
00:29:00.000 This gives Trump an unbeatable reputation as a tell-it-like it is straight talker.
00:29:04.000 Vance was one of the only Republicans to grasp the same facts on Ukraine.
00:29:09.000 Unapologetic America-first nationalism doesn't pretend the rest of the world's people are just like Americans, except when they're better.
00:29:17.000 Trump has an intuitive ability to speak to the concerns and priorities of the Forgotten Man, and Vance is excellent there as well.
00:29:24.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com from a political standpoint, from a policy standpoint, from a chess move standpoint.
00:29:31.000 He checks all the boxes, especially given the final four.
00:29:33.000 You don't get to choose the final four.
00:29:35.000 Based on all reporting and sources I have, Bergam, Rubio, Vance, Scott, choose your fighter.
00:29:40.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:29:45.000 The emails are flooding, and thousands and thousands of emails are receiving freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:29:51.000 By the way, we're going to do a whole poll here based on your emails, and I'm going to show the president the results on Thursday.
00:29:57.000 Let's put up the cut.
00:29:58.000 We have the president coming this Thursday to Dream City Church here in Phoenix, the show of force town hall.
00:30:06.000 We're going to be doing ballot chasing.
00:30:07.000 We're going to be doing all sorts of different types of training.
00:30:11.000 Go to tpaction.com/slash town hall.
00:30:15.000 That is tpaction.com/slash town hall.
00:30:18.000 President Donald Trump chased the vote.
00:30:20.000 So your emails that you email is freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:30:24.000 I'm going to show them the results.
00:30:26.000 I'm going to say, I'm going to show President Trump and say, hey, Mr. President, here's what our audience thinks.
00:30:31.000 Our audience of a couple million strong.
00:30:34.000 And so I'm seeing him there.
00:30:35.000 And we're seeing him again in Detroit, Michigan next weekend.
00:30:39.000 We're doing a major event there, the People's Convention.
00:30:42.000 Get your tickets, tpaction.com/slash peoples.
00:30:45.000 A lot of people are afraid of losing him as a senator.
00:30:47.000 I totally hear that.
00:30:49.000 Trust me, if you like him as a senator, you want him then to become vice president.
00:30:54.000 Let me just tell you.
00:30:56.000 That's a compliment, by the way.
00:30:58.000 I just want to be very clear.
00:30:59.000 The fact that the number one piece of feedback we receive from the audience is Charlie, I don't want to lose him as my senator, means he's a great senator.
00:31:09.000 And we do have Mike DeWine, who's kind of awful, who would replace him.
00:31:13.000 So there needs to be a deal struck.
00:31:15.000 And I think Vivek Ramaswamy is a great replacement.
00:31:18.000 Get it?
00:31:20.000 You have JD Vance, who becomes vice president.
00:31:24.000 And then you have Vuvek Ramaswamy, who becomes a U.S. Senator.
00:31:29.000 And by the way, there's other Ohio superstars.
00:31:31.000 You got Warren Davidson, who's great.
00:31:33.000 Charlie, I'm a Wisconsin voter.
00:31:35.000 I think JD Vance could help get the Wisconsin vote by the tribalism that the Midwest holds.
00:31:39.000 People may be more willing to vote for a Midwesterner in Wisconsin.
00:31:43.000 We always support people from the Midwest making their mark in society.
00:31:46.000 I could tell you this, as a Midwesterner myself, it's like we're part of this club.
00:31:50.000 And when I meet a fellow Midwesterner, it's like we understand each other.
00:31:56.000 When I meet someone from Indiana, like Citizen Kane, when I meet someone from Wisconsin, when I meet someone from Minnesota, Iowa, it's that core of the country.
00:32:05.000 I'm very, very biased to the Midwest.
00:32:06.000 I think the Midwest creates the best people.
00:32:08.000 I'm sorry to the West Coast.
00:32:09.000 Sorry to the South.
00:32:10.000 I'm sorry.
00:32:10.000 I'm very biased.
00:32:11.000 I think the Midwest has the best people.
00:32:12.000 I'm sorry.
00:32:13.000 It's just the way.
00:32:13.000 I'm very biased.
00:32:15.000 JD Vance is going to win the Big Ten vote.
00:32:17.000 And no, I don't mean the UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington.
00:32:20.000 That's new expanded, crazy Big Ten thing.
00:32:22.000 I mean the traditional Big Ten.
00:32:24.000 I mean the Big Ten of, well, Nebraska used to be part of the Big 12, but Nebraska is part of the Big Ten.
00:32:30.000 I mean Nebraska.
00:32:30.000 I mean Iowa.
00:32:31.000 I mean Minnesota.
00:32:32.000 I mean Illinois.
00:32:33.000 I mean Purdue.
00:32:34.000 I mean Indiana.
00:32:35.000 I mean Wisconsin.
00:32:36.000 I mean Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio, Penn State, not Rutgers and Maryland.
00:32:42.000 They're not really part of the Big Ten.
00:32:43.000 They're Big Ten expansion.
00:32:44.000 I'm talking about the core Big Ten.
00:32:46.000 I'm talking about the remnant.
00:32:48.000 JD Vance runs up the score in the actual Big Ten.
00:32:52.000 Lori emails, it's important.
00:32:53.000 The vice president will carry on the MAGA legacy after Trump four years.
00:32:57.000 JD Vance would.
00:32:59.000 Julie, we all need Republican senator to stay in the Senate because we need every Republican to stay in the Congress Senate.
00:33:03.000 He needs to pick Ben Carson.
00:33:04.000 Okay, fair enough.
00:33:06.000 Tony says, Charlie, we want J.D. to stay in Ohio.
00:33:09.000 He's the best senator we've ever had for the people.
00:33:11.000 I'm sorry, Joni, Tony.
00:33:13.000 That's just making my argument.
00:33:15.000 You want someone who's loved so much from their home state, they do not want to see him go.
00:33:19.000 That means he's a winner.
00:33:21.000 And that also means if they love him in Ohio, by the way, he has this huge political operation.
00:33:26.000 He could run off the score.
00:33:27.000 Now, one guy emails us.
00:33:30.000 Scott says, Charlie, two white dudes is wrong move.
00:33:33.000 That is old school.
00:33:34.000 I completely disagree.
00:33:36.000 You see, I think in the era of identity politics where Kamala Harris is just selected because she's a black female, where Katanji Brown Jackson's an affirmative action pick, I think that two white men based on merit, based on spirit, based on intellect and wisdom is a giant F you to the DEI CRT complex.
00:33:56.000 I think America wants competency and merit over diversity and equity and inclusion in 2024.
00:34:04.000 So I completely disagree with that.
00:34:06.000 Oh, two white men.
00:34:07.000 And by the way, let's just be honest.
00:34:08.000 You need the white men vote in Pennsylvania.
00:34:11.000 Donald Trump did worse with the white men vote in 2020 than in 2016.
00:34:16.000 So don't hyperracialize things.
00:34:18.000 Kimberly says, I think JD Vance is the only choice going forward, especially with wanting to keep America first agenda going.
00:34:24.000 If Trump picks a weak choice and then in 2028, the Rhinos might be back in charge.
00:34:28.000 Thank you for everything you and Turning Point do.
00:34:30.000 Retiled Colonel says, Steve Brunnan says, this is my vote for vice president, retired colonel.
00:34:37.000 Thank you for your service.
00:34:38.000 Again, you have four choices.
00:34:40.000 Bergam, Marco, J.D., Tim Scott.
00:34:42.000 Choose your fighter.
00:34:42.000 Pick your fighter.
00:34:43.000 Get in the arena.
00:34:44.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:46.000 The results I'm going to show Donald Trump on Thursday.
00:34:48.000 President Trump, here's what our audience thinks right here.
00:34:50.000 Here's the data.
00:34:51.000 So participate.
00:34:53.000 Let your voice be heard.
00:34:54.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:57.000 The vice presidential selection is underway.
00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:03.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:05.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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