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00:01:00.000This is my conversation with Pastor Greg Farrington from the wonderful Destiny Church in Rockland, California.
00:01:30.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:08.000But since God has put you on a, you know, this platform in America as one of the, if not the leading young, you know, conservative voice, you know, it's been an inspiration to all of us.
00:03:22.000And I know we're going to say thank you at the end, but even before we begin this conversation, would you show your gratitude for Charlie for what he's done for our nation?
00:04:06.000But I want to say something, Greg, about you.
00:04:09.000I speak at churches all across the country.
00:04:11.000This is one of the healthiest churches that I have a chance to visit and encounter with.
00:04:15.000I mean, just in those announcements, not only is there a civics ministry to celebrate our beautiful country, spiritual warfare classes to pour into the congregation, but this is a church that stands and fights.
00:04:29.000This is a church that, based on the size, based on the amazing assets, the expectation was you were just going to shut down and not fight during the lockdowns.
00:04:40.000And you are led very well here, everybody, because this church did the exact opposite and led with boldness and courage.
00:05:39.000And you guys already got the answer, right?
00:05:41.000But you're in the minority of churches, just so you know.
00:05:44.000Most churches are saying, you know what, who cares if America falls?
00:05:48.000Well, that's in direct defiance to Jeremiah 29, 7, where the Lord says, you need to demand, it's that Hebrew word, badrash, the welfare, the shalom of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:06:01.000We are commanded to care about our country.
00:06:03.000We're commanded to care about our fellow countrymen, to care about the people that we live alongside.
00:06:09.000We're not just supposed to be supposed to be filled with ingratitude or as if the nation doesn't matter.
00:06:16.000And, you know, I will venture an argument here that America is not a nation like any other.
00:06:23.000And the American founding is one of the great moments in human history where the teachings of the Bible, mixed with the breakthroughs of the Enlightenment and the courage of the founding fathers, where all of a sudden this revolution of self-government was started in the Western hemisphere.
00:06:37.000Now, there were little experiments of it in Rome or in Greece, but nothing like what we've experienced in America.
00:06:43.000And it's so easy to believe that every country has it like we do.
00:06:47.000And you just look to our neighbors to the north in Canada, where they're not having church like this.
00:06:53.000Where pastors like Archer Pavlovsky are being arrested on the side of the street like a war criminal because he has church, where people's bank accounts are being seized because their politics are wrong, right?
00:07:04.000And so the question is: how do you get there?
00:07:06.000Well, you get there when all of a sudden in Canada or any one of these Western countries that seems to be slipping from their core values, either the people allow it to get there, they don't have a proper constitutional viewpoint.
00:07:18.000But the most important thing is this, and this is why I think this is all being organized on a supernatural level, which is where when believers go silent, then tyranny and darkness will spread.
00:08:36.000He would love nothing more than to crush the nation where self-government and consent of the governed, independent judiciary, where the structure of our system embeds freedom to continue and the pursuit of virtue, for the flourishing of families, for entrepreneurs to take risks, for people to be able to pursue the life that they see fit.
00:08:55.000And embedded in the American project and the American story is the equality principle.
00:09:00.000You don't get the equality principle by looking through a magnifying glass or by in some sort of scientific experiment.
00:09:07.000You get the equality principle through Christian values.
00:09:33.000The powers to be internationally right now, whether it be the Chinese Communist Party, which is the largest atheistic experiment in human history, where they don't just not believe in freedom, they specifically believe in the destruction of human liberty and freedom.
00:09:46.000And so this is the question for the church.
00:09:52.000I mean, I could say the top 30 churches in America.
00:09:55.000You guys are right there with actually doing what needs to be done.
00:09:58.000And I could say that after speaking at over 150, 200 churches in just the last year and a half, two years.
00:10:04.000And we're talking about tens of thousands of churches, almost 100,000 churches, which is, will the church stand and fight?
00:10:11.000And it's an open-ended question right now, but it's on us believers to take responsibility for this moment.
00:10:16.000You know, we've had Senator Tim Scott here on the stage with Governor Huckleby.
00:10:25.000Now, Senator Scott, when he got exercised, like you just got exercised, he almost took off his jacket and started doing a Southern Baptist type of deal.
00:10:36.000So if you want to throw off your jacket and go, okay, these people are comfortable with that.
00:11:13.000So ideology and indoctrination happens in public schools.
00:11:18.000So again, if the church doesn't step up, if we don't elect good people like these people, where is public education in five to ten years in America?
00:11:28.000Well, I mean, it's already a complete and total moral travesty, which is exactly why homeschooling has quadrupled in the last two years in America.
00:11:36.000This is why parents are starting to rise up and question their kids' education, and they should.
00:11:41.000I mean, look, but I mean, in the ideal, I want public education not to be a radical indoctrination camp of the worst impulses of humanity that are exposing children to radical sexual education courses at age eight or anti-American history.
00:11:55.000We want public education to be rock solid.
00:11:58.000All of you should want that, by the way.
00:12:00.000And I just want to, some people say, Charlie, I'm never sending my kids to public school.
00:12:04.000I said, well, if you either want to live in a society or you don't, right?
00:12:07.000I mean, you either want to live where your fellow countrymen actually have a respect for the place that we all want to preserve and protect.
00:12:15.000And this is where, you know, the work we do at Turning Point USA, I think we're right over the target as one of the most important things that we can do to fight this invisible war that is now visible, which is if you do not tell the story of America properly to young people, then they won't want to conserve or protect it.
00:12:34.000And look, we are suffering from an almost American Alzheimer's moment.
00:12:42.000We've forgotten everything that has come before us.
00:12:44.000We're tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson or of Abraham Lincoln.
00:12:48.000I mean, these people are the heroes of our nation that have accomplished such incredible feats to design a system that all of us have allowed to flourish.
00:12:57.000And millions of people from around the planet have been able to come here and build meaningful and substantial lives.
00:13:03.000And so the question in the school system is a couple things.
00:13:06.000So what is the goal of a school system, right?
00:13:09.000Well, do you want to create activists?
00:13:11.000I always laugh when I go to some of these school board websites.
00:13:14.000And I speak at school boards every so often just because it's fun.
00:13:27.000So I go to these school board websites, absent the superstars we have here, right?
00:13:32.000Most of them say, you know, we're here to want to create global citizens for change.
00:13:37.000And I said, who told you that was the purpose of education?
00:13:41.000And that's, by the way, a lot of school boards.
00:13:43.000And so I'm a big mission statement guy, meaning you could tell a lot by an organization or a company just based on their mission statement.
00:13:49.000Because we have a mission statement as a country.
00:13:52.000The mission statement started with when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the ties, the political bands that ties one person to the other.
00:14:02.000That means human beings deserve to be free.
00:14:05.000Whoa, that's a good mission statement, right?
00:14:08.000So I go to these education websites and their mission statements are all over the place, right?
00:14:14.000We're here to try to open students' eyes to the injustice of the world.
00:14:17.000Who told you that was the purpose of education?
00:14:20.000And rarely do you ever see, and this is the slippage of public education, what education should be, which is to develop the whole human being to be able to fill with gratitude and integrity and courage to embark in a very difficult and complicated world to pursue truth and to protect liberty.
00:16:09.000Every one of those studies is faulty because it doesn't factor in what you're actually studying.
00:16:13.000It doesn't factor in your work ethic, your integrity, all these other different things, right?
00:16:17.000Not to mention the dropout rate as it is.
00:16:19.000But let's just look at an average college or university where the average student debt burden is anywhere between $35,000 to $40,000 and going up from there.
00:16:28.000So we have a generation of young people where we're telling them to go borrow money they don't have, to study things that don't matter, to go find jobs that don't exist, into an increasing marketplace where they're not actually being filled with skills, nor are they developing the full human being.
00:16:41.000So I would be fully on board for college if every college like Hillsdale College, where they're pursuing, where they're going deep into the classics, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, Aquinas, and Augustine and Bacon and Newton, and they're really diving into the great books.
00:18:07.000Now, if they want to become a lawyer, an accountant, or they want to get something very specific done, then probably, okay?
00:18:13.000But if they're going to go study North African lesbian poetry or whatever it is that or whatever.
00:18:29.000But look, let's go a level deeper though, which is, is it worth the four years where you have the most energy, the most ambition, the most drive, the most hustle to go to a place where everything is negative, you're wearing a mask, you learn to hate your country.
00:18:44.000Is that the best use of our greatest asset?
00:19:50.000So, look, this is the last thing, and this is the real thought, Crane.
00:19:53.000Parents, if it's about your ego, then don't send your kid to college.
00:19:57.000And for most parents, this is true because you're afraid to tell your neighbors, to tell your relatives that little Johnny is not going to Stanford.
00:20:07.000And that's the number one reason why kids go to college is because they're parents.
00:20:12.000And it's not because the deep down parents know it's a scam, by the way.
00:21:22.000Well, the virus is still spreading, I guess, a little bit right now, far less, largely because we decided to finally embrace a natural immunity kind of approach, which should have been part of our approach from the beginning.
00:21:35.000I don't know if you're streaming on YouTube.
00:21:54.000But let me just say this, that the war on early treatments was one of the great injustices of my entire life.
00:21:59.000To see that people that very well could have been helped with early treatments, a variety of them, which I won't mention because Google would love nothing more than to take down this feed, was one of the great injustices of my lifetime.
00:22:16.000So the calculus of the politics changed where all of a sudden people started to become increasingly angry about the measures, the lockdowns, the mask mandates, and everything associated with it.
00:22:26.000I've been a huge critic against mask mandates since the very beginning, especially on children.
00:22:31.000They have always been unnecessary for children.
00:22:35.000The data shows that they're resulting in lower IQs and slurred speech and behavioral and developmental problems with children.
00:22:42.000And I just found it to be super creepy in a variety of different ways where the people that are putting masks on children, they don't even believe it for themselves, but they're like super insistent for a while in California.
00:22:53.000You guys lived through this, that kids must be wearing masks all the time.
00:22:57.000It's just there's something, and I say this openly, it's demonic the way that we must have the children always masks.
00:23:04.000So, but let me look, I'm optimistic in one sense that, I mean, they've put Fauci in the witness protection program, right?
00:23:14.000Largely because I think that there's a growing desire and an appetite for justice.
00:23:19.000And look, in the human soul, we are wired towards justice, right?
00:23:23.000This is why the Bible makes sense to us, because it's a document that's centered around justice.
00:23:28.000And thank goodness, we don't get what we deserve.
00:23:31.000Jesus gives us a way for us not to get what we deserve.
00:23:36.000However, we are told we should never forsake earthly justice, especially in the civil and governmental realm.
00:23:43.000And Anthony Fauci is a great example of someone who is a creature of the extra-constitutional order.
00:23:49.000The reason I was always so angry about Fauci, always got so irritated about him, is that no one voted for him, that no one gave him permission to be there.
00:23:59.000I mean, I'm all for criticizing leaders.
00:24:19.000And so the fourth branch of government, the CDC, the NIH, the CIA, all these kind of alphabet soup agencies was never part of the original structure or design of the United States Constitution.
00:24:32.000It's about 100 years old as we have started to delegate all this authority, this unchecked power to this fourth branch of government.
00:24:39.000So Anthony Fauci, who was largely unknown, unelected, had unlimited power.
00:24:44.000And I will say this, I want you to think deeply about this over the next couple of days, and you might disagree, but I think he had more power than any other person in the history of humanity for a short period of time.
00:24:54.000No one was able to control the breathing of a billion people for a period of time, where your children were able to go to school or not go to school.
00:25:02.000The movements of people, the thought, the philosophy.
00:25:04.000I mean, the entire economy of a planet was basically orchestrated by an unelected person that none of you even knew existed 90 days before.
00:25:14.000That alone should have been like a timeout.
00:25:18.000Like you didn't canvas for signatures and we didn't give you permission to be able to do this.
00:25:23.000And so, look, they've put him into hiding or wherever he is, largely because he's become super unpopular.
00:25:28.000His numbers have gone down and gone south.
00:25:31.000I am starting to see a massive amount of people now contact me privately and say, Charlie, you know, for example, when I spoke here at Destiny Church back in November of 2020, I came out kind of warning people that this vaccine might not be what you think it is, right?
00:25:46.000That's all I'll say because we're on YouTube.
00:25:47.000But I was just kind of like, hey, just be a little bit careful, right?
00:25:50.000And boy, did I just get absolutely destroyed for that.
00:25:53.000Now people contact, they say, wow, Charlie, there is a lot more to this story, actually, than what people realized or what we ever wanted to kind of talk about.
00:26:02.000And so at the fundamental core of all of this is whether or not we as Americans will have the memory or the desire to hold the people accountable who committed these crimes against humanity.
00:26:15.000And that's really the situation we're in right now.
00:26:17.000And so it pains me to no end that hundreds of thousands of people were sent to the hospital and their treatment was, here's a ventilator.
00:26:32.000And I can say this just from personal experience of people that thank goodness I was able to help connect with all-star doctors and give them the treatment that helped them in a way.
00:26:41.000It really just, it saddens me greatly.
00:26:44.000Whether it be for profits or power, I look at it differently.
00:26:50.000So don't, but one last part note on this is that all of this, I believe, was a social conditioning exercise to stress test the American people for what very well might come next.
00:27:01.000People say, oh, is there another pandemic?
00:27:02.000I don't know what's going to come next.
00:27:03.000But all I know is this, is that the powers to be that just got to get their hands on this kind of unilateral and kind of widespread power, you think they're just going to got to back off and allow us to be free and enjoy liberty, maybe for a short period of time to try to make us forget, but be on guard and be vigilant.
00:28:09.000Yeah, thank you for saying that about my conversation with Jack.
00:28:12.000I spent weeks preparing for that through study and just diving into the documents, which were all publicly available, which is the most fascinating part of the entire thing.
00:28:22.000But really kind of doing some deep thinking about what's really happening in our world and how does it impact us.
00:28:29.000Everyone here, every believer needs to know about the World Economic Forum.
00:28:33.000The World Economic Forum is a gathering, but also an organization of basically every major prime minister, business, individual, business leader, I should say, celebrities.
00:28:44.000They gather in Davos, Switzerland, and they have an organization basically that puts forward goals and objectives and they put forward plans to be able to restructure the world in their image.
00:28:57.000They also have something called the Young World Leaders Forum, which is basically a training boot camp for the next prime minister.
00:29:24.000So, and this is actually what's so interesting.
00:29:28.000It's a psychological tactic that's very effective.
00:29:31.000You could read lots of literature about this back in the 1960s.
00:29:34.000You've all heard the phrase hiding in plain sight.
00:29:37.000So they're employing the hiding in plain sight psychological manipulation tactic, which they put the crazy radical stuff right on their website because then people won't think it's actually very radical because they're not hiding it.
00:29:48.000I know it's very counterintuitive, but it works.
00:29:50.000It works really well because we take things more seriously if we act like, oh, it's secret and they were trying to hide it.
00:29:56.000Like, okay, well, do we take it seriously if it's like broadcast right on their website?
00:30:00.000Well, we should because they have realized, okay, we're actually just going to lead with what we want the world to look like.
00:30:06.000So it's eight goals, eight objectives, eight ways they think the world is going to look by 2030.
00:30:11.000This is all run by a man by the name of Klaus Schwab.
00:30:15.000He is the closest thing to a bond villain I have ever seen.
00:30:20.000The way he talks, he wears like a weird space suit.
00:31:11.000And at the end of this discussion, I'm going to put up a link on screen where you guys can go look at that.
00:31:16.000So the Bible talks about wars and rumors of wars.
00:31:19.000You know, I believe that we are living in the last days.
00:31:24.000Theologically, there's kind of a lot of perspectives.
00:31:27.000So, you know, Russia, China, and who else will join maybe those types of nations?
00:31:36.000As nations begin to war against each other right now, how does this play out for America?
00:31:43.000Yeah, I mean, a lot of their warring, a lot of their aggression is because America has decided to allow it to happen.
00:31:50.000We are now seeing the creation of an evil super alliance between the dictator of Russia and the dictator of China.
00:31:56.000This is the new axis, and you could add Iran on top of it, and that's kind of going to be their vision of the new world order, right?
00:32:03.000So it's a very important thing, which is that there is the great reset, folks, of the Klaus Schwabs, but then there's another competing worldview where they want to have a kind of globalist mindset, but only through their ethno-nationalist colonialist view of Russia and China imperialistically controlling the entire world.
00:32:20.000So they're at tension in some ways, but they all agree on one thing.
00:32:24.000And this is the thing that unifies the Klaus Schwabs and the Emmanuel Macrons and the Justin Trudeau's and the Putins and the Xi Ji Pings.
00:32:46.000And we are sitting idly by and allowing these, and I have to say, like satanic forces to continue to be on the march.
00:32:53.000And so, and look, it's very simple in some sense, which is some of these people only understand power and they only understand force.
00:33:03.000But when we are intentionally not participating in the global dialogue or in the actions of first building ourselves up and being energy independent and exporting our own energy, if we're not building up our military and being willing to use it prudently, then what actually circumstance are we going to be in?
00:33:26.000And this is a very important thing, which is as America decides to kind of just be a co-equal partner in this globalist project, humanity is going to go through a chapter that I'm afraid will be one of the bloodiest, costliest in recent memory.
00:33:42.000And so you look at kind of what's happening, you know, on the international side, it's so frustrating to watch this, Greg, because for four years, we had the man that we were told is awful and terrible and is going to get us into war.
00:33:56.000And he's the only president in the last 40 years that didn't get us into a new war.
00:34:27.000What made the man that we were supposed to hate broker in a peace where Ukraine was not being invaded or China was kept in check and Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon where we were energy independent, our border was getting sovereign and secure?
00:34:42.000Well, there's a lot of different reasons, but the most important is that he did not have a commitment to a corrupt influence or an abstract ideology.
00:34:51.000I want you to think this is so simple.
00:34:53.000So one of the reasons, and he's also not dumb, which is part of what we have running our country right now, which is a nice thing.
00:35:09.000When you give $85 billion to the Taliban, it's either you're bought by them or you don't have the intellectual, you know, bandwidth.
00:35:17.000$85 billion of weapons to the Taliban.
00:35:19.000Way, let me just say this really quickly, which is he was not captured by some corrupt influence and he did not have some abstract ideology.
00:35:28.000So, for example, this current regime, they are not willing or able to do what is necessary on the energy front because they believe that fossil fuels are destroying humanity.
00:36:53.000We have about another 12, 13 minutes here, but I know you guys, you have to leave too because there's a people who are going to sit in your chairs.
00:38:16.000And that doesn't mean I'm pessimistic.
00:38:18.000I'm sharing my frustration, my outright frustration when I see a republic that my grandfather fought for and my fellow countrymen care so much about just unraveled because of this.
00:38:33.000Look, the midterms, I think that there is going to be a massive equal and opposite reaction that's hopefully going to hold some of this in check.
00:38:41.000But what really gives me hope is that what's happening in DC, unfortunately, is going to go largely uninterrupted.
00:38:47.000Is that we have to start to rebuild the kind of idea of the citizen from the bottom up, which is why I love the school board involvement.
00:38:54.000I love what we're seeing on the local level.
00:38:57.000And it's going to require relentless and perpetual activism and engagement and building.
00:39:03.000And by the way, this is not a, I think it's a message a lot of people here are willing to receive, but it's not the message that necessarily you want to hear.
00:39:10.000You know the message you want to hear?
00:39:12.000You want me to say, hey, guys, guess what?
00:39:14.000Actually, Trump's going to get reinstated as president in 30 days and everything will be better.
00:39:27.000And you're just kind of in that moment now where you're going to have to build, where we're going to have to lean into those tough and difficult moments.
00:39:34.000But there is so much joy in this moment.
00:39:36.000And so I could say this: if I could kind of just tie what's really giving me hope and optimism right now, is that the people that are in charge, the elites, they did everything they possibly could over the last calendar year to try to demoralize you.
00:39:50.000In fact, their big bet was to call all of you moms and dads that show up at school board meetings domestic terrorists.
00:39:56.000They thought they could culturally blitz-create you into submission where you're like, you know what?
00:40:13.000But all of a sudden, the more they insulted the Americans, the more they came after us, the tougher our resolve became.
00:40:20.000And all of a sudden, they look at this moment and they're like, wait a second, like, why are moms and dads still showing up at school board meetings?
00:42:48.000My job every day when I do three hours of radio, two podcasts a day, traveled 330 days last year, college campuses, churches, organizing people, 200 plus people on staff, is to make sure that number one can keep on happening.
00:42:59.000To make sure that the church will remain open, that they'll never lock us down again, that they will never persecute our faith again.
00:43:07.000So I just want to make sure we all understand the priorities, right?
00:43:51.000In fact, in the next service, we might want to do some of the spiritual warfare stuff.
00:43:55.000But if you are not experiencing spiritual warfare at all, and it's kind of like a weird, distant concept to you, I'm going to lovingly tell you maybe you're not doing something important enough.
00:44:07.000Which is every person that I encounter that is fighting for the gospel in the kingdom is experiencing some form of spiritual warfare right now.
00:44:16.000And Satan, Satan, we know the character of Satan.
00:45:01.000Nine out of 13 of the colonies had already abolished slavery by the time of the Constitution was ratified.
00:45:06.000The first anti-slavery convention was held in 1775, chaired by Benjamin Franklin.
00:45:11.000The first state ever to abolish slavery was Vermont in 1776, inspired by the Declaration of Independence.
00:45:16.000Thomas Jefferson wrote in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, admonishing King George for bringing the sin of slavery to the United States.
00:45:23.000Thomas Jefferson abolished the slave trade as one of his first acts of president in 1807.
00:45:28.000That this country said time and time again in the private journals and musings of every founding father, including the three architects of the U.S. Constitution, Hamilton, Madison, and Jay, that it's not a matter of when, it's how we will abolish slavery.
00:46:55.000If we have a national Alzheimer's moment, we don't know who we are, where we've come from, a memory crisis, then what are we actually doing here?
00:47:02.000You have to know what we're anchored to.
00:47:03.000And the third thing, of course, is action, running for office and supporting the good ones that do.
00:47:07.000Homeschooling kids, shepherding those parents that might be overwhelmed at our homeschooling.
00:47:11.000Action, action, action, and pushing ourself forward.
00:47:14.000Those are the three things that I would challenge this church to continue to do.
00:47:40.000Look, I mean, you know, there's a great quote in, great quote, great verse in Nehemiah, and it escapes me.
00:47:47.000I'll get it from the next service, which is, you know, blessed are the long days of the struggle of work, basically when they're rebuilding the temple, right?
00:47:53.000Under Zareba Bell's leadership, which is, you should take delight in the tough days towards a good purpose, basically, is the essence of the scripture.
00:48:00.000And look, I think that we are programmed towards immediate gratification, right?
00:48:04.000That things are going to arrive in the instant.
00:48:06.000Look, California is a long-term project.
00:48:08.000It is absolutely doable, but it might take five years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.
00:48:13.000And I know that might depress some of you, and some of you like say, that's it.
00:51:11.000It's the best case for the resurrection apologetics.
00:51:14.000If you're struggling with your faith, if you know a young person that's questioning their faith, I think that conversation would really move people in a lot of ways.
00:52:11.000But now, when I dismiss you, I need you to go to your cars and be Christians.
00:52:19.000Be nice to each other, but I need you to do it effectively and efficiently because we're going to have an 11 o'clock crowd that is going to, you know, we're going to have challenges with this many people showing up.
00:52:33.000We're going to pray for Charlie right now.
00:52:35.000Would you extend a hand out towards Charlie as we pray?
00:52:40.000Heavenly Father, I thank you for giving gifts to the body of Christ.
00:52:45.000Thank you for giving us Charlie Kirk, Lord God, for such a time as this.
00:52:50.000You put this man, you've given him a brilliant mind, but you've given him a heart that understands, understands faith, understands the church, understands America.
00:53:01.000Now we pray blessing upon him and his family, his wife, Lord God.
00:53:05.000Walk with them, be with them, give them health, protect them, guard them, I pray.
00:53:11.000And then I pray that you would provide for them.
00:53:14.000Every one of their needs, every one of the needs of the organization.
00:53:17.000I pray that you would meet those needs.