The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Rules: The Bureaucrats, or the Constitution?

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00:00:01.000 Riley Gaines joins the show to recap the amazing executive order signed by President Trump.

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00:00:11.000 We are heading towards the most high-stakes constitutional battle of our lifetime.

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00:01:28.000 Lots to cover today as we speak.

00:01:32.000 We have Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk and his platoon of geniuses, going department by department, starting to audit your taxpayer money and how it is being spent.

00:01:45.000 And what is being revealed is just shocking.

00:01:47.000 We're finding out that we are sending tens of millions of dollars to transgender parades in third world countries.

00:01:53.000 We are teaching Sri Lankans about gender therapy.

00:01:59.000 DEI in Senegal.

00:02:01.000 I mean, things that are just so breathtaking and shocking.

00:02:03.000 And the media is now creating a narrative saying, you can't do this.

00:02:08.000 And finally, we have the long-anticipated constitutional question front and center.

00:02:15.000 Finally, after over 100 years, we are forcing the issue.

00:02:21.000 We are forcing the issue that goes right to the bones, to the fiber, to the...

00:02:27.000 DNA of the United States of America, and that is the U.S. Constitution.

00:02:33.000 We have here the U.S. Constitution, and it is a very simple question.

00:02:38.000 Is this still the law of the land?

00:02:44.000 USAID is a microcosm, is a perfect example of whether or not the U.S. Constitution still exists.

00:02:54.000 As the law of the land, over the last 100 years, we have seen this slow but steady march that has weakened Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution, that has dulled the capacity and the impact for a president.

00:03:11.000 Post-Woodrow Wilson.

00:03:12.000 Woodrow Wilson was the first president to implement this idea that we need a council of experts.

00:03:20.000 We need to trust the scientists.

00:03:23.000 He was a professor at Princeton University, governor of New Jersey, became president in 1913 after the 1912 election because Teddy Roosevelt ran in the Bull Moose Party against William Howard Taft, three-way race.

00:03:36.000 Woodrow Wilson becomes president.

00:03:37.000 He was an academic, and he ushered in a new view of governance, that we're going to have these supposed independent agencies that exist regardless of political pressure.

00:03:52.000 He wrote this explicitly, Woodrow Wilson did.

00:03:56.000 He wanted to have these agencies be permanent, a technocratic class, untouchable by the sovereign, untouchable by we the people.

00:04:10.000 An outgrowth of that was FDR, and the modern administrative state, otherwise known as the deep state, Or the fourth branch of government that comprises unelected, unknown, and unchecked bureaucrats has grown wildly out of control.

00:04:27.000 In the administrative state, you find the Department of Education.

00:04:30.000 You find USAID. You find the EPA. You find the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:04:36.000 You find the FBI. You find the Department of Justice.

00:04:39.000 And the perfect example of this is in media coverage around Pam Bondi or Kash Patel.

00:04:44.000 They say, oh, how will the DOJ and the FBI be independent?

00:04:48.000 Who's ever to say they should be independent?

00:04:51.000 The Department of Justice and the FBI serves at the pleasure of the president.

00:04:56.000 That is Article 2. We have been propagandized and hypnotized over the last 100 years to believe that the executive branch has no power over the bureaucracies that, oh, it's an independent agency.

00:05:13.000 No, it's not.

00:05:14.000 And secondly, the FBI was never chartered by Congress.

00:05:17.000 It's a bureau, not an agency.

00:05:20.000 The executive branch is more powerful than ever, yet the president is weaker.

00:05:28.000 This is what the left has engineered, is they've engineered this shadow fourth branch of a permanent standing army that doesn't have to listen to a president.

00:05:37.000 And we are bringing the constitutional issue front and center.

00:05:42.000 That's what this is all about.

00:05:43.000 Don't look at the trees.

00:05:44.000 Look at the forest.

00:05:46.000 Don't look at the little, oh, you know, Elon running around with a bunch of engineers.

00:05:48.000 No, no.

00:05:49.000 What Elon is doing with the President Trump's blessing is forcing the most consequential, high-stakes question of who is in charge that we have seen over the last 100 years.

00:06:02.000 This is all an outgrowth of Woodrow Wilson from 1913 to 2025. It's been 112 years.

00:06:09.000 And as specified in the U.S. Constitution, the President Section 1 of Article 2. The executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America.

00:06:22.000 Do you see that?

00:06:22.000 That's it.

00:06:23.000 It does not say the executive power shall be vested in an FBI director or in the USAID rank and file.

00:06:30.000 It doesn't say that the executive power shall be vested in an oligarchy.

00:06:36.000 If you zoom out and you ignore all the noise and all the chatter, You are witnessing a return to the framers' vision for this country.

00:06:48.000 It's going to be a major fight because disassembling and deconstructing the administrative state, that is the life force of all statists.

00:06:58.000 It is the life force of Liz Cheney, of Nancy Pelosi, of Adam Kinzinger.

00:07:02.000 They live off of the corrupt, statist leviathan that has...

00:07:09.000 Grown to trillions of dollars of scale.

00:07:12.000 It is the largest thing ever to exist in the history of Western civilization.

00:07:18.000 It's the U.S. government.

00:07:20.000 So what Article 2 is all about is the president gets to decide who leads the Department of Justice.

00:07:27.000 The attorney general reports directly to the president.

00:07:29.000 The FBI director reports directly to the president.

00:07:32.000 The president can if he wishes.

00:07:34.000 President Trump right now if he wishes.

00:07:36.000 Could call Pam Bondi and say, I want to see every single case you're working on.

00:07:41.000 The president could even say, stop working on this case and start working on that case.

00:07:46.000 And if that makes you a little uncomfortable, that means you are victim to the hypnosis that the DOJ and the FBI are their own chartered portion of government.

00:07:57.000 They are not.

00:07:58.000 No different than President Trump can tell Marco Rubio to go down to Nicaragua, President Donald Trump can tell USAID, stop sending money there.

00:08:06.000 But all of the outpour, all the rancor that you are seeing is because they don't actually want the representative of the people to have that kind of power because they don't trust the people.

00:08:18.000 That's the core issue, is that they don't trust the wisdom of elections to be played out in full during a presidential term.

00:08:30.000 They say it's democracy.

00:08:31.000 It's actually technocratic oligarchy.

00:08:35.000 Stephen Miller described this beautifully, who is the White House Deputy Chief of Staff.

00:08:40.000 Let's play cut 149. Donald Trump is courageously restoring democracy.

00:08:46.000 Article 2 of the executive branch vests all power by the Constitution.

00:08:51.000 Sorry, Article 2 of the Constitution vests all power of the executive branch in a president.

00:08:56.000 It's known as the vesting clause.

00:08:58.000 It says the executive power shall be vested in a president singular not in the bureaucracy Not an unelected lifetime tenured career civil servants.

00:09:07.000 Americans voted for one man Donald J. Trump they didn't vote for a single bureaucrat at USAID They voted for Donald Trump to make government accountable to the taxpayer to make government accountable for them This is the whole ballgame This is everything you are seeing right now culminates around this core first principle question.

00:09:31.000 The dialogue and the discussion and why they are losing their mind in the media right now.

00:09:35.000 In Federalist 70, Alexander Hamilton argued passionately for a strong executive.

00:09:40.000 Let me read.

00:09:41.000 Energy and the executive is a leading character in the definition of good government.

00:09:46.000 It is essential to the protection of the community against foreign attacks.

00:09:49.000 it is not less essential to steady the administration of the laws, to the protection of property, to the security of liberty, and to the protection of its citizens against those irregular and high handed combinations, which sometimes interrupt the ordinary course of which sometimes interrupt the ordinary course of justice.

00:10:09.000 Hamilton argued for a strong singular executive that can act decisively, unlike a weak executive held hostage by his or her own bureaucracies.

00:10:20.000 The president must have the ability to move quickly and act quickly.

00:10:25.000 And Alexander Hamilton said, well...

00:10:27.000 If we don't have an executive, then we're nothing more than legislative supremacy and permanent bureaucratic stranglehold.

00:10:34.000 President Trump is reviving the U.S. Constitution.

00:10:37.000 He is the sole defender.

00:10:39.000 And that is the question in front of us.

00:10:41.000 Do we live under the Constitution or do we live under a permanent, unelected, deep state bureaucracy?

00:10:48.000 This is the battle unfolding in front of our eyes.

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00:11:55.000 So this clip got some play, but for a separate reason.

00:11:59.000 This is...

00:12:00.000 LaMonica McIver, very passionate individual, saying that we are at war.

00:12:06.000 So everyone is thinking about the physical violence.

00:12:09.000 There might be something there and maybe there's something to look into.

00:12:12.000 I'm not that interested in that because she's actually right about something.

00:12:16.000 You are in the midst of a struggle.

00:12:19.000 You are in the midst of a wrestling match.

00:12:21.000 And we don't know who is going to win.

00:12:23.000 Because we are trying to reorient and re-navigate the United States of America.

00:12:29.000 Back to the founder's intent, the fundamental and foundational basis of this country.

00:12:35.000 Here is LaMonica McIver, play cut 153. Now she's doing that outside of USAID. And it's very simple.

00:12:53.000 She is arguing for a protection of the oligarchy.

00:12:56.000 We...

00:13:00.000 We want the people to be in charge of the government.

00:13:04.000 She wants experts to be in charge of the government.

00:13:08.000 She's the type that believe Anthony Fauci deserved a full pardon in the last couple hours of Biden's presidency.

00:13:15.000 We are the ones that believe that the wisdom of the people...

00:13:21.000 The decentralized power of the government in the hearts and minds and souls of every citizen is what matters.

00:13:30.000 And this is not going to be an easy fight.

00:13:32.000 So when Elon Musk goes department by department and asks a question, who's in charge?

00:13:37.000 What do you do here?

00:13:39.000 Who authorized this?

00:13:43.000 And they kind of get silence, protest.

00:13:46.000 That shows that they believe they're an untouchable class.

00:13:50.000 The left claims that bureaucrats make democracy stronger.

00:13:54.000 Of course that is a lie.

00:13:56.000 Even when a president has a lot of power, they're accountable to the people.

00:14:00.000 They have elections every four years.

00:14:02.000 When was the last time you voted for a bureaucrat?

00:14:03.000 You've never voted for a bureaucrat.

00:14:05.000 And did you know that it's nearly impossible to fire a government worker?

00:14:12.000 Which, by the way, is a very serious constitutional question.

00:14:15.000 How can it be so hard to fire a government worker if the Constitution says, Executive power shall be vested in a president.

00:14:27.000 Shouldn't the president just have the ability to fire anybody he wants at any time?

00:14:31.000 Do not be surprised if all of this Doge controversy, if all of this USAID controversy is a forcing function to eventually get a decisive case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:14:49.000 To get a case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court where the justices can finally decide, yes, the president can fire at will, which of course he should be able to.

00:14:59.000 Article 2 of the Constitution continues by saying this.

00:15:05.000 Section 2 says he has the power to advise and consent of the Senate to make treaties.

00:15:09.000 He has the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States.

00:15:13.000 The president should have the power to fill up vacancies that happen during his term.

00:15:18.000 Article 2 says that the President of the United States has full authority.

00:15:26.000 The most important power, though, is a single eight-word clause.

00:15:30.000 Decreeing the President, quote, he shall take care and the laws shall be faithfully executed.

00:15:36.000 There's a lot in those eight words.

00:15:38.000 A lot.

00:15:40.000 You know that most law students don't even know the U.S. Constitution.

00:15:43.000 They don't.

00:15:44.000 They couldn't tell you what it is.

00:15:46.000 Those eight words is what this is all about.

00:15:49.000 Does the President of the United States have the ability to say, you're fired, you're hired?

00:15:55.000 Currently, no.

00:15:57.000 The answer is no.

00:15:58.000 Only for political appointees, but careers, they're basically untouchable.

00:16:01.000 You could put them on administrative leave because they've tried to hold the President into a straitjacket.

00:16:09.000 That's what they've designed over the last hundred years.

00:16:12.000 Nope, the people can't have that big of a say.

00:16:14.000 The experts need to be in charge.

00:16:15.000 The career desk workers, the bureaucrats, they run the country.

00:16:20.000 And this is all coming to a head at a full speed collision.

00:16:26.000 An unstoppable force meets an alleged immovable object.

00:16:29.000 And boom, it's going to come in front of you.

00:16:31.000 At high velocity speeds.

00:16:34.000 The framers anticipated this pushback.

00:16:37.000 The framers never granted or designed an unelected, unchosen, unknown, unaccountable, standing army of millions of career officials that can't be fired or held accountable regardless of what they do.

00:16:50.000 That is never within the founders' intent.

00:16:52.000 And if you think that's okay, then you don't want the U.S. Constitution.

00:16:55.000 It's that simple.

00:16:57.000 President Donald Trump is reviving that promise and that spirit.

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00:18:02.000 Joining us now is Riley Gaines.

00:18:07.000 Riley, welcome to the program.

00:18:09.000 Riley, a lot of your work these last couple of years crescendoed yesterday at the White House with President Donald Trump.

00:18:18.000 Tell us all about it, Riley Gaines.

00:18:19.000 Man, that's right.

00:18:21.000 Thrilled to be on with you, Charlie.

00:18:22.000 Thank you so much.

00:18:24.000 What we saw yesterday was a total vindication.

00:18:30.000 I think that's the best way to put it.

00:18:32.000 It is something, this fight that I've been fighting, of course, me personally for about three years, many others far, far longer than I have.

00:18:42.000 We were stonewalled by the previous administration, not even just stonewalled.

00:18:47.000 We as women were left out.

00:18:50.000 We did not have a seat at the table.

00:18:52.000 And even worse, I would go as far as to say the Biden administration and even current elected Democrats, they worked against us by requiring these men to be in our sports and in our spaces, like locker rooms.

00:19:03.000 So to have a president who displayed such moral clarity on an issue that...

00:19:08.000 Really shouldn't require it, right?

00:19:10.000 You mentioned Genesis in describing the wonderful promo of Hillsdale College.

00:19:16.000 It is that simple.

00:19:16.000 It goes back to the first book.

00:19:18.000 He made them male and female.

00:19:19.000 I cannot believe we have to have a president issue an executive order saying those are the only two sexes and, of course, declaring that men cannot compete in women's sports.

00:19:29.000 But that's the level of moral decay to which we reached and certainly could have been...

00:19:38.000 I think this issue as a whole, the gender ideology movement, more specifically even the issue of men and women's sports, that's what turned a lot of people off from the Democratic Party.

00:19:49.000 As you know, as I know, I think people turned out to the polls on November 5th to embrace Donald Trump, and of course his America First agenda, his cabinet picks, but more so I believe people turned out to the polls to reject this kind of absurdity.

00:20:05.000 What exactly was in this executive order?

00:20:08.000 What are the details of this no men in women's sports executive order?

00:20:15.000 Yeah, well, it's really beautifully written.

00:20:17.000 Major shout out to Mae Mailman, who has, she's a policy director at the White House. 0.99

00:20:22.000 She wrote the executive order of the two sexes, declaring there are only two sexes. 0.99

00:20:27.000 She helped with the chemical and surgical mutilation of children executive order really, really beautifully and thoroughly written.

00:20:35.000 What this executive order does is it withholds federal funding from any educational program that allows or requires men into women's sports, into women's spaces, again, like locker rooms.

00:20:50.000 So it's huge, really.

00:20:52.000 But in all actuality, what it does is just enforce Title IX.

00:20:56.000 It seems pretty groundbreaking.

00:20:58.000 It seems pretty riveting.

00:20:59.000 But, I mean, I hate to say it.

00:21:02.000 It's really regressive is what this This executive order is.

00:21:06.000 It's taking us back in time 52 years.

00:21:09.000 But again, that's what's needed because of the radical rewrite that Joe Biden and his administration pursued, the most anti-woman, anti-reality pursuit that we saw from that administration.

00:21:19.000 And that's certainly saying a lot.

00:21:21.000 So this is great.

00:21:23.000 We've even seen the NCAA come out with a statement this morning saying, hey, we are looking over this executive order now and we are doing everything we can to comply and follow federal law.

00:21:34.000 Which I'm not surprised by.

00:21:36.000 I believe the NCAA has been desperate for an executive order like this or for some sort of action from someone other than themselves because what they've done for years on this issue and not just this issue.

00:21:50.000 They've sat on their hands.

00:21:51.000 they've kind of sat on the fence and winked at both sides wanting to do the right thing and they know what the right thing is but not having the courage not having the the backbone to be willing to do it so now this allows them the the opportunity to do the right thing but kind of continue to say look we're just following the law here yeah so the the elements of the executive order give it really real teeth and real ability to be enforced and

00:22:18.000 The counter-argument that some people in the media are making is, oh, this isn't happening very much.

00:22:23.000 However, even CNN agrees that this is overwhelmingly supported by the American people.

00:22:29.000 Playcut 134. I think these numbers are really illuminating on this topic because I just think there's such a clear trend among the American public.

00:22:38.000 So transgender female athletes in women's sports, only 18 percent of the country says that they should be, in fact, allowed to participate in women's sports.

00:22:48.000 Compare this to the opposition.

00:22:49.000 I mean, my goodness gracious, 79 percent.

00:22:51.000 You rarely get 79 percent of the country to agree on anything.

00:22:55.000 But they do, in fact, agree on the idea of opposing transgender female athletes in women's sports.

00:23:01.000 Riley, this is you don't get anyone to agree on anything like that.

00:23:05.000 Your thoughts?

00:23:06.000 Yeah, well, that's the thing.

00:23:07.000 This issue has been made out to be a political one, but in reality, It shouldn't be.

00:23:13.000 It should have never become a political issue.

00:23:15.000 It was inevitable that it was going to, of course.

00:23:17.000 But this isn't a political issue.

00:23:19.000 It's a moral issue.

00:23:20.000 It is a humanitarian issue.

00:23:23.000 So to see the way that women's rights to privacy, again in areas of undressing, to safety, to equal opportunity, to see how that has been politicized in the way that it has with the Democrats resoundingly being on the wrong side of history here.

00:23:40.000 Is almost remarkable.

00:23:42.000 It really is.

00:23:43.000 And still, you have outlets.

00:23:45.000 We have people like Joy Reid or even ESPN yesterday, a major sports outlet who certainly understands the difference between men's sports and women's sports.

00:23:55.000 They've got the headline yesterday.

00:23:57.000 It said, you know, President Trump to issue an executive order that prevents people who are biologically assigned male at birth from competing in women's sports.

00:24:07.000 The beauty of this...

00:24:09.000 That we didn't see two years ago is Americans see through that.

00:24:13.000 What an inefficient way to say men.

00:24:15.000 People who were biologically assigned male at birth.

00:24:19.000 That's what I did in college when I was trying to reach the word count of an essay that I needed to submit that night.

00:24:26.000 That is something to that extent.

00:24:27.000 So people see through it.

00:24:29.000 And so to see these numbers and again to know just two, three years ago the stand that I had taken.

00:24:37.000 It wasn't popular at the time.

00:24:39.000 You know that.

00:24:39.000 I know that.

00:24:40.000 I'm fortunate that you were at the forefront.

00:24:42.000 You were talking about this.

00:24:43.000 But even members of right-wing media, they weren't honest.

00:24:48.000 They weren't transparent.

00:24:49.000 They were falling in line with the language barriers and traps that the left is using, the pronoun junk to these men as trans women.

00:24:59.000 People are desperate for clear...

00:25:03.000 My grandma, she doesn't know what a trans woman is. 1.00

00:25:06.000 She hears this and she's like, you know, Riley, does that mean man who identifies as a woman or woman who identifies as a man?

00:25:11.000 So people have had enough.

00:25:13.000 So if the Democrats keep playing on this, they will certainly keep losing.

00:25:18.000 A good guide for everyone in the audience.

00:25:20.000 Every time you hear trans man or trans woman, just replace it with not a.

00:25:25.000 So not a woman or not a man. 0.93

00:25:27.000 That's it.

00:25:28.000 Or fake.

00:25:29.000 So fake man, fake woman. 0.99

00:25:31.000 That's a great little—I finally got it that way.

00:25:36.000 I was like, okay, got it.

00:25:37.000 So trans is a replacement for fake. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Riley, but in the audience yesterday with Speaker Mike Johnson and several senators, if we are serious about this sticking, we need congressional action as well.

00:25:52.000 What is the status of the legislation that would prohibit men from being in female sports?

00:26:00.000 Are Democrats still against this?

00:26:02.000 Yeah, I love that you asked this because a lot of people see what happened yesterday and they want to wipe their hands and think that we're done.

00:26:07.000 Oh my gosh, we are absolutely not done.

00:26:09.000 This does not absolve the states from doing what they need to do and it certainly does not prevent this from being overturned as quickly as it was implemented potentially in four years.

00:26:21.000 So where this stands at the federal level, just a few weeks ago Congress passed H.R. 28, the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act.

00:26:29.000 Sponsored by Representative Greg Stubbe.

00:26:32.000 They're able to say it passed with bipartisan support because two Texas Democrats voted in support, the rest of them.

00:26:39.000 Over 200 of them, 200 Democrats, mothers and fathers of their own young daughters, voted in opposition of protecting women and girls in sports.

00:26:48.000 But nonetheless, it passed.

00:26:49.000 But the problem that we're having now and where we need the pressure applied, from what I understand...

00:26:56.000 The Senate does not want to take this bill up.

00:26:58.000 They believe that it won't pass, which is certainly a fair assumption to make. 1.00

00:27:05.000 But nonetheless, because of Chuck Schumer and his strategy and lack of leadership, lack of courage in the 118th Congress, they did not hear this on the Senate floor.

00:27:14.000 Therefore, they got out of voting for it.

00:27:16.000 It couldn't really be this big hot-button topic for a lot of these senators who were running for re-election.

00:27:26.000 Just last year, because they didn't vote on it.

00:27:29.000 We need Senator Foon to act.

00:27:31.000 We need him to bring this to the House floor to have a vote.

00:27:34.000 So, number one, we know who stands with women and who does not. 0.70

00:27:38.000 Two, it has the chance, at least, to be codified into law, passed on to the president's desk for him to sign.

00:27:45.000 So that's where the pressure campaign lies now, I believe.

00:27:49.000 Really encouraging these senators.

00:27:52.000 Let them know we're watching.

00:27:54.000 We're waiting and we're watching.

00:27:55.000 Do the right thing.

00:27:56.000 Bring this to the floor for a vote and vote for women. 1.00

00:28:00.000 Well said, Riley.

00:28:01.000 Thank you.

00:28:01.000 We're doing a big campus push with you as well.

00:28:04.000 30 seconds.

00:28:04.000 Tell our audience about it.

00:28:06.000 Man, I can't wait.

00:28:07.000 What you guys have been able to do on college campuses among the youth is pivotal.

00:28:13.000 I know your listeners know that, how that shaped the election, how that shaped what we saw yesterday, those little girls surrounding President Trump.

00:28:20.000 Had you guys not been doing what you do?

00:28:22.000 That visual, that picture would not exist.

00:28:25.000 I think we're going to be on about maybe 30 different college campuses this semester, so very excited for that.

00:28:31.000 Headed to a Turning Point event right now, actually, so just thrilled to be a contributor, what you guys are doing.

00:28:37.000 I'm just honored to be a part of it.

00:28:39.000 Riley, keep up the great work.

00:28:40.000 We will speak to you soon.

00:28:41.000 Thank you so much.

00:28:42.000 You've got it, Charlie.

00:28:43.000 Thanks.

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00:29:48.000 So USAID, 15,000 people put on administrative leave.

00:29:52.000 And then what is next?

00:29:53.000 Well, there's no surprises here with this administration.

00:29:56.000 It's whatever the president ran on the campaign trail.

00:30:00.000 So far, he's just going boom, boom, boom, one at a time.

00:30:04.000 He said no men and female sports.

00:30:05.000 He said no money to CRT or DEI schools.

00:30:08.000 He said we're going to get rid of chemical castration.

00:30:10.000 We're going to unleash the economy and secure the border.

00:30:12.000 He's going piece by piece by piece by piece, element by element.

00:30:16.000 And what's next?

00:30:17.000 The eradication and the abolishment of the Department of Education.

00:30:22.000 Reagan couldn't do it.

00:30:23.000 George W. Bush couldn't do it.

00:30:25.000 George W. Bush wouldn't want to do it.

00:30:26.000 He was all about growing the size and scope of the Department of Education.

00:30:31.000 It's time to end it.

00:30:32.000 It's time to send it back to the states.

00:30:35.000 It is time to say that it never should have been a role of the federal government.

00:30:40.000 Since the Department of Education was started under Jimmy Carter, America's education system has only grown more costly, more bloated, and less effective.

00:30:51.000 Republicans have been promising to get rid of it for decades.

00:30:53.000 But when given power, they did nothing.

00:30:56.000 Washington, D.C. insiders assumed this administration would just pull the same bait and switch.

00:31:01.000 But oh, the Department of Education is next.

00:31:05.000 Senator Kennedy from Louisiana has this to say.

00:31:09.000 Playcut 76. To my friends who are upset, I would say with respect, you know, call somebody who cares.

00:31:18.000 They better get used to this.

00:31:19.000 It's USAID today.

00:31:21.000 It's going to be Department of Education tomorrow.

00:31:24.000 Understand that...

00:31:25.000 For the better part of our country, we never had a Department of Education.

00:31:30.000 Education was done by the local church, the local school, local parents.

00:31:34.000 We were a smarter, wiser, better prepared, better equipped nation when we did not have this federal bureaucracy of the Department of Education.

00:31:45.000 The U.S. government in 1958 passed the National Defense Education Act, which provided funding for science, math, and foreign language learning.

00:31:54.000 LBJ came along.

00:31:55.000 And passed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, ESEA of 1965, and then the Higher Education Act of 1965. There was a new office that was created of the Department of Health Education Welfare, and then Jimmy Carter, another master class from him, in 1979, put on the Department of Education Organization Act.

00:32:15.000 The creation of the Department of Education was official on May 4th, 1980. And we have slid ever since.

00:32:25.000 We had No Child Left Behind.

00:32:26.000 We had Barack Obama have Every Student Succeeds Act.

00:32:30.000 And we have seen standards fall dramatically.

00:32:34.000 This is 155 on screen.

00:32:38.000 Inflation adjusts US Department of Education outlays versus student performance.

00:32:43.000 We are spending more than any industrialized country and we have worse output.

00:32:48.000 Why?

00:32:49.000 Because we have a centralized federal model.

00:32:53.000 When education, of course, is the most personal thing.

00:32:56.000 Think about it.

00:32:58.000 Because it happens in the soul and the mind of every student.

00:33:02.000 It is the most micro thing is education.

00:33:07.000 You can't centralize that.

00:33:09.000 You can't dictate it from some Politburo.

00:33:12.000 It is the opposite of a national project.

00:33:16.000 It must start with the family and then maybe the community.

00:33:20.000 It is personal.

00:33:21.000 It is a journey that every student must take on their own to read the great books and to discover truth and understand beauty and define goodness and fight for the good.

00:33:32.000 Here's President Donald Trump on the Department of Education, Playcut 154. And on the Education Department, why nominate Linda McMahon to be the Education Department Secretary if you're going to get rid of the Education Department? 0.99

00:33:45.000 Because I told Linda, Linda, I hope you do a great job and put yourself out of a job.

00:33:51.000 I want her to put herself out of a job. 1.00

00:33:53.000 Education department.

00:33:54.000 So we're ranked number 40 out of 40 schools.

00:33:58.000 We're ranked number one in cost per pupil.

00:34:00.000 So we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.

00:34:03.000 And we're ranked at the bottom of the list.

00:34:05.000 We're ranked very badly.

00:34:07.000 And what I want to do is let the states run schools.

00:34:10.000 I believe strongly in school choice.

00:34:12.000 So there will be billions of dollars being sent back to these communities.

00:34:16.000 And we are not going to subsidize this failed education administrative state model anymore.

00:34:22.000 The system is failing.

00:34:25.000 It's time to break up that bureaucracy.

00:34:29.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars we spend on this.

00:34:31.000 And we have kids in Baltimore that can't read.

00:34:34.000 Send it back to the states.

00:34:36.000 Send it back to the communities.

00:34:37.000 Send it back to the cities.

00:34:39.000 And also, these colleges, your grift is over.

00:34:44.000 These hundreds of billions of dollars you get for these failed...

00:34:48.000 This cartel that you've built, we're breaking that up.

00:34:51.000 The cartel is over.

00:34:53.000 The gravy train is ending.

00:34:55.000 And the Department of Education is next to be eliminated.

00:34:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:00.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 06, 2025

Who Rules: The Bureaucrats, or the Constitution?

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