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00:01:23.000Matt, give us the update of how things are going on the ground at CPAC.
00:01:26.000Yeah, you know, I think it's awfully important now that we're in this election year that we wake everybody up who feels like, you know what, we've lost so much.
00:01:35.000We've lost so much ground to the left that is there really any use after all the cheating in the elections?
00:01:43.000And since I live in this kind of like broken, bankrupt blue city of Washington, D.C., I experience that on a regular basis.
00:01:51.000Great people who love this country just feel like the fight is over.
00:01:54.000And so the job of CPAC with everyone who's in the hall and also just all the people who are watching from around the country and around the world is to begin the rallying cry this year to make everybody realize we are right at the brink of victory.
00:02:07.000Donald Trump wins that White House again.
00:02:10.000We get four more years to actually drain this swamp starting on the very first moment of the very first day.
00:02:16.000This gives this country a new birth of freedom.
00:02:19.000It's not the long-term answer because in a democracy, you get kind of short terms, but it is the absolute reprieve we need.
00:02:26.000And I feel it, it's coming together, Charlie, because, you know, Washington's not exactly the place everybody who thinks like us wants to fly to, but this place is completely jam-packed.
00:03:16.000But it's the question of who's Donald Trump going to pick to be his VP.
00:03:19.000Most of those major contenders will be here in an apprentice-like, you know, performance, showing the crowd what they got, what they think.
00:03:29.000And then we'll ask the question of our attendees: who would you like to see Donald Trump pick?
00:03:34.000And then the second big theme, our overall theme is where globalism goes to die.
00:03:39.000And there's so many things happening around the world and in our society that are being controlled by these global elites.
00:03:46.000One of the worst things is the fact that the WHO is on the brink of taking basically the national sovereignty of free people and really dictating terms to them on basic questions of health or using health as a scare tactic to shut us all down and close down our churches and close down our schools.
00:04:02.000Can you imagine, you know, Americans didn't exactly clothe themselves in valor during the last pandemic.
00:04:09.000Can you imagine if it's China who's dictating those terms?
00:04:12.000Well, that's that's the strange world we're going into.
00:04:15.000And these are the types of things we're talking about.
00:04:17.000So, Matt, yeah, talk more about the health thing.
00:04:19.000You have a whole bunch of doctors coming, don't you have like Dr. McCullough or Dr. Malone or somebody doing something huge?
00:04:47.000Robert and I are kind of like fake ranchers out in the Virginia Mountains because we're so done with living in the city.
00:04:54.000And he's just a fabulous, wonderful, kind of late in life conservative.
00:04:59.000I don't know if he'd even call himself a conservative.
00:05:01.000He's just had enough with these elites who are destroying all of our lives.
00:05:05.000So, you know, being a conservative is the term I always use.
00:05:08.000I don't know if it's operable anymore.
00:05:10.000Now I'm just an American and I love freedom and I adore our Constitution and our history.
00:05:15.000And we have a lot of people rallying to this cause, as you know, Charlie, who maybe wouldn't have gone through the orthodox paths to get to join us.
00:06:47.000And if there's wrongdoing, take the videos.
00:06:49.000And the other thing we have to do is we have to intimidate in the nicest of ways all these elected officials that continue to flout the law.
00:06:57.000I don't care what jurisdiction you're in.
00:06:59.000Go to the meetings, make appointments, make it very clear, become conversant with the law.
00:07:05.000If the citizens don't stand up, nobody in a white building in Washington, D.C. is going to make any changes.
00:07:12.000And I will say this, all this news about Michael Watley from North Carolina being the chairman is someone I've known for 20 years.
00:08:12.000So Matt, walk us through the sequence, some of the speakers, how people can watch online.
00:08:16.000I know Real America's voice is streaming a lot of it, just the details for people that are remote.
00:08:20.000Well, I want to first compliment Real America's voice on streaming the international summit.
00:08:24.000That was an amazing thing to see a resolution on the WHO, a resolution in support of Israel and a resolution calling out the crimes of the Biden administration on election interference, akin to what Vladimir Putin gets charged with doing by trying to put Donald Trump in prison, all coordinated, by the way, by the White House Council, who continues to be an anonymous person in our society.
00:08:44.000I think we ought to make him famous because what he's doing is wrong.
00:08:47.000And so over the course of the next couple of days, as you know, with your great conference, these grassroots supporters will be hearing from the big names.
00:08:56.000We had less congressmen and senators, Charlie, because quite frankly, if you don't believe in using the power, then we're not going to buy you to CPAC.
00:09:03.000We want people like Tommy Tuberville, who spoke this morning, who believes in using his Senate power to stop the intransigence of the Biden administration.
00:09:10.000And beyond that, I don't think just picking a bunch of Washington politicians does very much.
00:09:15.000We need to get back into these grassroots and highlight the heroes, highlight the heroes on the border, highlight the heroes in our communities that are standing up for girls' sports and the pushing back on the insanity of what's going on in our schools.
00:09:30.000And, you know, and we're also going to have this international flair.
00:09:33.000We have the president of El Salvador closing tonight, President Bukeley.
00:09:43.000And then they come with all these interesting people from their areas.
00:09:46.000You know, Charlie, they love to call us racists.
00:09:48.000It's just so strange that when all the continents assemble at our conferences of all different religions, all different skin colors, it really kind of makes that racism charge completely absurd.
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00:11:13.000I want to analyze part of the Trump town hall that he had with the great Laura Ingram.
00:11:18.000Laura Ingram is terrific, great American.
00:11:21.000If he continues with this type of messaging, he's going to consolidate Republican support and it's going to be harder and harder for the bad guys to do what they did in 2020.
00:11:33.000I don't know if we have this one piece of tape.
00:11:37.000It was just one of the funniest Trump moments I've seen in some time where he says, and there's people, they're coming in.
00:14:40.000We have the most advanced economy of any major nation in the world.
00:14:45.000It really makes people say, you know, is Biden going to drop out of the race?
00:14:49.000At this point, I think I want to run against Biden more than anybody else.
00:14:53.000It seems to be that the Democrat cabal, the Democrat oligarchy, they're pushing and they're pushing to try to have Biden removed, but it's getting late in the game.
00:17:04.000Yeah, this is part of an ongoing strategy on the left to demonize Christians who are involved in the political process.
00:17:10.000And generally, the left is okay if you privatize your faith, but God forbid you would ever take your Christian worldview and seek to apply it on a principled basis to the various public policy questions that come across the public square.
00:17:25.000And this has been an effort for years.
00:17:28.000The left has invested in the term Christian nationalist because they're trying to get Christians who think and love and care about their nation to not endeavor to be in the public square.
00:17:41.000And this is kind of, you know, the latest of their attempts to weaponize this.
00:17:48.000They're trying to kind of connect it with the Trump administration.
00:17:51.000Obviously, the President Trump supports what he has put out on his website.
00:17:57.000We have a separate think tank in which we work on paradigm shifting ideas.
00:18:01.000And one of those paradigm shifting ideas is that as a country, we've been too secular.
00:18:06.000The conservative movement has been too secular and that we're not going to save our country or have anything to sell to the American people that's largely just divorced from the soul and is just pure materialism.
00:18:17.000We believe that you've got to appeal to people on the basis of who they are, created in the image of God.
00:18:23.000And one of the aspects of that is that people have souls.
00:18:26.000And so that is why we care a lot about this debate because for too long, and Charlie, you've seen this a lot with all of the work that you've been doing in churches, that people in the pews have had pastors that have been giving them bad advice that have been saying, look, don't work tirelessly and care about your country.
00:19:20.000Russell Vaut, Trump's former OMB director.
00:19:23.000Christian nationalism is a top priority, along with invoking the Insurrection Act on day one to quash protests and refusing to spend authorized congressional funds on unwanted projects.
00:19:38.000I mean, they mash about 15 to 20 different policy ideas.
00:19:42.000I think she was referring to impoundment.
00:19:44.000That's a budget idea that has nothing to do necessarily with what we're talking about.
00:19:48.000You had all sorts of normal social conservative policies that have been articulated.
00:19:54.000And then you're bringing in Joy's concerns about the conservative movement and us being against critical race theory, which is state-sanctioned racism.
00:20:02.000So, they have put all these things together and just said that's Christian nationalism.
00:20:08.000And every one of them needs to be unpacked and to figure out what, in fact, we are proposing and what we are not.
00:20:14.000Each one of them, they are slandering us, which is par for the course.
00:20:19.000But what I do think that clip shows is the extent to which, not unlike racism, not unlike bigotry, the left uses these pejoratives to scare us out of the public square.
00:20:32.000Whenever, if it's tax cuts or D-reg, they don't really care about that.
00:20:37.000But when it's a cultural issue that gets at what the nation honors and dishonors, what it favors and disfavors, that's when they throw the pejoratives of.
00:20:46.000And what we've learned over the last five years, or really since Donald Trump came to office in 2016, you do not save your country by retreating.
00:20:54.000You save your country by pinning your ears back and moving forward, winning the debate, and not really caring about what they say about you on CBS and at the nightly news.
00:21:32.000And I don't mean to put you through the firing squad here, Russ.
00:21:34.000I just think it's interesting, you know, because Joy Reed and that kind of community of cable news broadcasters, they're trying to create this fear-mongering tactic around Christians acting in government.
00:21:52.000He also wants to dismantle the Department of Education, enforce Florida-style patriotic education in our schools, end federal funding of any schools that mentions so-called critical race theory, gender ideology, or what people like Stephen Miller determine to be inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content.
00:22:11.000They intend to force children to learn about their version of the nuclear family, including the roles of mothers and fathers and things that make men and women different and unique.
00:22:21.000That's what our kids will learn in Trump's Christian nationalist public schools.
00:22:33.000We are totally okay with schools treating men and women differently on the basis of their biological sex.
00:22:40.000I am opposed to the Department of Education because I think it's the Department of Critical Race Theory.
00:22:45.000I mean, you have grants after grant of culturally responsive learning where you're funding essentially a cultural revolution, not just with teachers, but with the students.
00:23:28.000But should we lean into this as far as the label?
00:23:32.000How from a messaging standpoint, one of our producers, who, by the way, is not a Christian, but a great patriot, says, you guys should lean in on this, that do not give the left an inch.
00:23:44.000Well, I know there's a lot of disagreement on our side about this.
00:23:47.000And I wrote a provocative article from Newsweek that says, what's so bad about Christian nationalism?
00:23:52.000And we have leaned into it more so than many.
00:23:54.000And that is because, unlike most pejoratives, it describes something that's true.
00:24:00.000We are Christian who are nationalists.
00:24:03.000We are people who believe that we have a Christian nation.
00:24:07.000I mean, Christian nationism would probably be the most accurate aspect of what I believe and where I think that, you know, home row should be in the debate, right?
00:24:16.000But from the standpoint of the extent to which the left is trying to use this pejorative, I understand people don't want to lean into it.
00:24:24.000And I don't think it's that particularly important.
00:24:26.000But I do think what is vital is that you've got to understand that it's okay to think and love and prioritize, prioritize being the key word, your nation as a Christian.
00:24:38.000Right now, churches have all of this talk about love your neighbor, and they don't have any ability to say, no, we do not want that group of refuge coming from that country that is dominated by Sharia law.
00:24:50.000We don't want that group of individuals, not because they're not made in the image of God, but because they have a different view of what a country should be.
00:24:58.000And they certainly have no view of what our country with a Constitution and the Bill of Rights should look like.
00:25:03.000So that's the kind of thing that I do think is important a little bit to prick the conversation and force it a little bit by leaning into the debate and not just say, oh my gosh, they called me a Christian nationalist.
00:25:25.000And also it's important to remember you're supposed to love your neighbor as yourself, which also means you must balance serving yourself and your own self-interest as you would love other people.
00:25:34.000And so I just, the churches always just say, love your neighbor.
00:25:37.000I say, no, I know, but the commandment in Leviticus says as yourself.
00:25:41.000Okay, I just, I want to make sure everyone has their theology correct.
00:25:44.000Just give it a little, I was with President Trump yesterday.
00:25:47.000He has really an amazing motivation to try to transform the federal government and a willingness because obviously what he's going through, you are one of the top people.
00:25:57.000I'd put you top two or three people that have really thought deeply about how to fix this.
00:26:01.000I know day one, you know, if asked to serve, which I imagine you will be, you'll be right there in the White House helping, you know, shape and form and restore the constitutional promise.
00:26:12.000Well, you know, obviously I love working for President Trump and strongly support him.
00:26:16.000And I think that he's a once in a century individual to carry this banner because of what he's experienced, but also his willingness to have confrontation with the deep state and the forces that are killing our country.
00:26:31.000And, you know, I remember talking with him about the extent to what we were learning along the way in our first four years.
00:26:39.000And I think he has a developed sense of what must be done.
00:27:08.000And so my perch at Office of Management and Budget gave me the opportunity from a government-wide perspective to have theses that we are developing at the Center for Renewing America that we believe we can offer up as a set of ideas, proposals, menus.
00:27:23.000Some you take, some you leave for President Trump if and when.
00:27:28.000And we firmly believe that he will take office next year.
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00:29:00.000And in each of those, we're trying to make a corrective of what we believe conservatism of the last 40, 50 years hasn't saved the country.
00:29:10.000So we're looking to be for God instead of secular, for country instead of imperial and global, and for community instead of just economic.
00:29:19.000And that's the organization that we have a host of issues anywhere from big tech reform to stopping the funding for Ukraine.
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00:29:28.000One of the concerns that I've heard expressed, and I had a very robust discussion yesterday with someone who will be voting for Trump, but he's not a Trump fan.
00:29:37.000But to his credit, he's voting for him, is he says, Charlie, Trump needs to embrace the Nikki Haley wing, the Bush wing, because he'll need personnel to run the government.
00:29:47.000Is there truth in that statement, Russ?
00:29:50.000I think that's the wrong way to look at it.
00:29:51.000And I am very, very concerned to make sure that we have answered the criticism from the Unit Party and the establishment, your smart set, right?
00:30:00.000Is they don't believe that populist nationalist government can be done by our side and our wing of the coalition.
00:30:11.000I think that there are wonderful examples of people that served and others who want to serve that are the type that can govern from an America-first perspective.
00:30:22.000And so I think that is how that would be a mistake to believe that the only people that can govern are the ones that have adopted all of the wrong paradigms that President Trump ran against once, twice, and now a third time.
00:30:38.000And I think we've got to raise up the right number of leaders who are built for a storm.
00:30:43.000And, you know, those who are not playing it safe right now, watching people like my colleague, Jeff Clark, that try to be disbarred.
00:30:51.000I hope we find people that are in any, it doesn't have to be public.
00:30:55.000It could be at a school board level, but I want to see people that are leaning forward into conflict with great cheer, confidence, and courage to be able to serve their country.
00:31:05.000And I've asked this question of James Bacon and others and Sarab Sharma.
00:31:10.000What is the number of people that will need to be the beachhead Donald Trump becomes 47th president to really reform the federal government?
00:31:27.000Well, I look at it a little bit more from an institutional standpoint.
00:31:30.000That's one of the reasons why I think it's important to lean into the organizations that give presidents, Democrat presidents, the ability to control the executive branch.
00:31:39.000So I look at Office of Management and Budget, and I say, look, it's not just a budget office.
00:31:43.000It has all of the tools that are necessary to be able to control the deep administrative state.
00:31:50.000What's important is you actually have to know the tools and be willing to use them.
00:31:54.000President Trump is someone that was issuing vetoes to protect these tools and not in the midst of an impeachment crisis.
00:32:21.000That itself is something that if you name it and you claim it, you have provided and armed an entire bench of appointees to go in and get it right in a way that the founders would have understood.
00:32:38.000And there's a lot of smart people that are capable and you're one of them.
00:32:44.000And by the way, Mike Pence has this ridiculous new effort out, Russ, $20 million effort to fight GOP populism.
00:32:50.000I read that as they're going to try to undercut the incoming administration.
00:32:55.000That's what I see is that if there is a Republican administration, we need people to say, I'm willing to leave my farm, leave my job, and go serve this government.
00:33:06.000I think there would be thousands of great Americans that would step up to save the country.