The Charlie Kirk Show - The Data Behind Nikki Haley’s Dreadful Campaign

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00:01:25.000 Scott, welcome to the program.

00:01:26.000 Thanks, Charlie, for having me on.

00:01:27.000 Appreciate it.

00:01:28.000 All right.

00:01:28.000 So, Scott, tell us all about the God-sized vision of Saturate USA.

00:01:33.000 Well, you know, similar to you, we just felt about five years ago, there's a group of people that felt like we needed to do something here in the United States.

00:01:41.000 We needed to get people back to the roots of what we were, which was a Christian country, one that was out about sharing the gospel and telling people about Christ.

00:01:51.000 And we were really concerned as Trump had just got in office that we needed to work on values and those kind of things.

00:01:58.000 And so a group of people got together and we figured out what would be the best way to try to hopefully get the gospel to all 120 million homes in the United States.

00:02:08.000 And, you know, we prayed on it.

00:02:10.000 These are some pretty top quality businessmen that had great ideas on how to market stuff.

00:02:15.000 And the idea came back was that we need to provide something to churches that would be free to them, that would empower them to get out outside the walls of the church and get their members to share the gospel.

00:02:27.000 And so came up with a lot of different ideas, but the main one was to utilize some tools that were already out there.

00:02:35.000 Tools, one, it's called Jesus Film, which is the most watched movie in the history of the world, and utilize that in a way to get people to understand the gospel.

00:02:47.000 And as we started looking at some different research, for instance, with Barna, we found out that it was very shocking that 30% of the United States, their heart language they speak in is not English.

00:03:00.000 And so that gave a very challenging thing.

00:03:03.000 We couldn't just provide something that was in one language, but it had to be something that could be provided in multiple languages.

00:03:10.000 And so the Jesus film is provided and can be streamed in over 2,000 languages, which is pretty incredible.

00:03:16.000 And so we provide a mechanism where we provide what we call saturation packs to churches.

00:03:23.000 They adopt their neighborhood, their area that they're in, and we provide them free of charge and ship to them and everything.

00:03:30.000 These packs, which include a DVD, which includes the access to stream these movies for free in over 2,000 languages.

00:03:40.000 It provides a booklet in there, which was done by an organization called Crew, which is called Do You Want to Know God Personally? which is a mechanism to lead someone through the process of what it would look like to have a relationship with Jesus Christ.

00:03:54.000 And then the key thing, Charlie, is this is not a movement that we're trying to get people to come back to Saturate USA, but we're trying to empower the churches.

00:04:02.000 So the churches are required to put their local church information in.

00:04:06.000 And so when someone gets this packet, the way they connect, the way they reach out that next step is through the local churches that are out doing this.

00:04:15.000 It's an amazing vision.

00:04:16.000 I want to play one of your trailers here.

00:04:18.000 Let's play Cut 100, please.

00:04:18.000 I love it.

00:04:23.000 As the world changes in an era of crisis, families throughout America are experiencing instability, fear, and great loss.

00:04:32.000 But while many are searching for answers in places of desperation, the position and mission of the church has never been more clear.

00:04:42.000 It's time for us to leave the buildings and saturate the streets with compassionate outreach, redemptive hope, and the love of Jesus.

00:04:51.000 So, Scott, part of this is to try to challenge the church to give them to give them something to do.

00:04:58.000 Tell us more about how the details work.

00:05:01.000 Yeah, so, you know, what's been amazing about this is, you know, it can be a big church.

00:05:07.000 It can be a church, a thousand people that want to do this.

00:05:09.000 And we've had individual couples that have gone out and done 20,000 homes over a period of time.

00:05:16.000 And so the idea is, is we provide them with maps of their zip code so they can go out and they can be somewhat organized with it.

00:05:26.000 But the encouragement is, is to get out there in groups and either provide these on doors or go door to door and talk to people.

00:05:35.000 It's amazing how the Lord works.

00:05:36.000 You know, you think you might want to not feel comfortable.

00:05:39.000 Barna, about three years ago, did a study.

00:05:42.000 It said, if we took church-going people, what's the percentage of those that actually feel comfortable sharing their faith?

00:05:48.000 And the crazy number that came back was under 5%.

00:05:53.000 And so we know that's something that's challenging.

00:05:55.000 So this allows them to go out.

00:05:58.000 They can either drop it off, they can do whatever the church is wanting.

00:06:01.000 And then there's a follow-up process after.

00:06:04.000 And it's been amazing.

00:06:05.000 You know, as we all know, just planning that seat is our job.

00:06:09.000 And the Holy Spirit and God does the rest.

00:06:11.000 And so it's been an incredible thing going on.

00:06:14.000 We've had, if you can believe this, out of the 120 million homes we've had already, we're just under 50 million homes adopted already over the last five years.

00:06:25.000 And so that constitutes a huge amount of people.

00:06:28.000 It's amazing.

00:06:29.000 Let's continue with Cut 101, please.

00:06:32.000 Saturate USA is a movement of churches and believers across America, one unifying movement to reach every zip code, every neighborhood, and every home with the love of the gospel.

00:06:46.000 Churches can join the Saturate USA movement by adopting a zip code and receiving free neighborhood maps, door hanger bags, and evangelistic materials, including Jesus Film DVDs with free online streaming.

00:07:01.000 Each church can be as creative as they like with their packs, personalizing them so their neighbors will know who loved them enough to reach out and connect.

00:07:10.000 Then plan the neighborhood outreaches and go out as teams or individuals to distribute to homes.

00:07:16.000 I mean, the vision of 120 million homes, that's ambitious.

00:07:20.000 Just kind of remind the progress, 30% already, though, saturated.

00:07:24.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:07:25.000 30% saturated, almost 40% already adopted by churches.

00:07:30.000 And, you know, what's been amazing about it is I've got three kids in college.

00:07:34.000 So I love your movement.

00:07:35.000 I love everything you're doing.

00:07:36.000 And I go down the same page as you.

00:07:39.000 We got to get out there.

00:07:40.000 We got to educate people on what the values are, what we believe, what's important.

00:07:45.000 And what's great about Saturate, it's just not for young people.

00:07:48.000 It's not for old people. 1.00

00:07:49.000 It's not for the deacons of the church.

00:07:51.000 for everyone.

00:07:53.000 The youth groups, the different ministries, the different small groups, everyone can get involved.

00:08:00.000 And we have seen just incredible things happen.

00:08:02.000 Like I said, from two people all the way to a youth group of 100 kids going out and doing 5,000 homes in two or three hours.

00:08:11.000 And so it's a lot of fun.

00:08:13.000 People, as you know, if any of us have, if you've done a mission work or you've done stuff where you feel like even maybe a food pantry where you feel like you're blessing other people, what always tends to happen is you get blessed more than you ever bless anyone else.

00:08:26.000 And that's what's so incredible about the whole experience.

00:08:29.000 I just love to see this movement pop up.

00:08:32.000 I love to see the momentum.

00:08:33.000 I love to see the vision.

00:08:36.000 Can you just 120 million?

00:08:38.000 Is that approximately how many homes there are in this country?

00:08:41.000 Yeah, we got three about, you know, just over 360 million people.

00:08:41.000 Is that right?

00:08:45.000 Usually it's about 3.1 people in a home.

00:08:49.000 And so that's the number.

00:08:51.000 And we're in 50 states right now.

00:08:53.000 So there's movements going on in all 50 states.

00:08:55.000 And we've done big cities, you know, small cities.

00:08:59.000 It's amazing.

00:09:00.000 And the great thing about it is for the churches is it's totally free.

00:09:05.000 This has been funded by private people out there that just love Christ and love our country and want America to get back to the greatness that it was.

00:09:15.000 And we believe that that's only through having a relationship with Jesus Christ and the church getting more involved in what's going on.

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00:10:26.000 So Scott, working with churches, what so far has been one of the major headwinds or difficulties that you've had to deal with as the country grows more secular?

00:10:37.000 What have been some of the opposition you've experienced?

00:10:40.000 Well, obviously, we started right before COVID hit.

00:10:43.000 So that was a big deal.

00:10:44.000 You know, we got a lot of people scared to get out and do stuff.

00:10:48.000 But since COVID's gone away, or, you know, I don't know if it ever started, but since it's not such an impact right now in our society, I think our biggest problem we have right now is people feeling and going back to church and actually going back to building and doing something.

00:11:05.000 So many people want to watch it online or not be involved.

00:11:09.000 And so as you see, the numbers in our churches as far as attendance has gone drastically down.

00:11:15.000 And so getting people back out there doing stuff.

00:11:18.000 But I also think, to be honest, and why I'm so excited to be on your show is I think the movement that needs to take this on is the youth.

00:11:26.000 It needs to be the college kids.

00:11:28.000 It needs to be the high school kids.

00:11:29.000 It needs to be those kids that care about where our country's going.

00:11:32.000 And if that's important to them, then we've got to get people back at going to church with the values that we all have, the values of the conservative values that are out there.

00:11:42.000 And so the way you do that is we share our faith.

00:11:44.000 We get more people excited about what we're about, about Jesus Christ.

00:11:48.000 So I think that's the greatest challenge is getting our youth doing this.

00:11:52.000 And so, you know, encouraging youth to get their churches on campus to do stuff like this, to get outside the walls and do it.

00:12:00.000 Encourage their parents to do it.

00:12:02.000 Encourage, you know, our parents to do it.

00:12:04.000 You know, encourage every church to get out there and do something because here's the deal.

00:12:08.000 If you challenge your pastor and say, what evangelistic work are we doing?

00:12:12.000 Nine times out of 10, they're going to bring back, they're doing stuff overseas, doing missionary work in other countries.

00:12:18.000 And that is needed.

00:12:19.000 Don't get me wrong, but we have a lot of missionary work to do here.

00:12:23.000 You know, when the great commission was brought, was spoken in the gospels, the first place it talked about was your Jerusalem, and that's the United States of America.

00:12:33.000 And we've got to get out there and we've got to let people know the importance of that relationship.

00:12:37.000 And so, you know, that's my excitement.

00:12:39.000 My excitement is whenever I see youth and the young people of the United States out there doing these kind of things, it's great.

00:12:45.000 And I got to go to one of your events at Georgia Tech recently and to see the excitement of those youth on that campus for the different things going on.

00:12:52.000 It's real exciting.

00:12:54.000 Well, thank you.

00:12:55.000 So I want to just reiterate the website, saturateusa.org.

00:12:59.000 And so working with a lot of these churches and pastors, I imagine that, you know, they're the, as you say, the youth groups are some of the ones that are the most effective to be able to spread this.

00:13:12.000 And, you know, having kids in college and seeing America becoming less religious, what do you attribute that to?

00:13:19.000 Well, I don't think you have a couple hours for me to talk about it, but I've got, I've had a son that was in Ivy League and I've had kids at more conservative colleges.

00:13:29.000 And, you know, I think that what I'm seeing is the educational system is not leading our kids down the path of having ethical and moral values, or at least the ones that I believe in.

00:13:39.000 And so it's a tough thing out there.

00:13:42.000 You know, being from Texas, we're a little more conservative down there, but I'm telling you, it's just, it's hitting everywhere.

00:13:48.000 And so I really believe the only person that can change this and get this going in the right way is our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

00:13:55.000 And so it's a lot of prayer and it's a lot of trying to empower people in the United States to get out there and let them know what we believe.

00:14:02.000 It is saturateusa.org.

00:14:04.000 Let me just read this to you.

00:14:06.000 Over 49 million homes adopted, 36 million homes saturated, 113 million people that have been saturated.

00:14:13.000 Scott, can you share some success stories from 113 million people that have been saturated?

00:14:19.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, there's we have just thousands of them going on, but probably one of the most interesting ones that I like to tell is in Florida, we had a church that adopted their area.

00:14:29.000 They broke it up by different, they're different small groups in their church.

00:14:33.000 And so a small group took a neighborhood of about 200, went out, and their goal was to set the packs on each door.

00:14:40.000 And then they were going to go back a couple weeks later and follow up.

00:14:43.000 And so they did this.

00:14:44.000 They got together.

00:14:45.000 They assembled their packs, put their church information in there, went out, walked the homes and delivered them, and then went back a couple weeks later.

00:14:52.000 And this one couple was going down their street and, you know, came to this cup, this house, went, knocked on the door.

00:15:00.000 Lady answers and they said, we're just falling up.

00:15:03.000 We're from this First Baptist Church down the way.

00:15:05.000 And we wanted to let you know we cared about you.

00:15:07.000 And we dropped a pack off here.

00:15:10.000 We'd love you guys to come to church or is there anything we can be doing for you and praying for you? 0.99

00:15:14.000 And the lady got kind of emotionally set.

00:15:17.000 She said, well, I'm going to tell you what, you know, your pack had a huge impact.

00:15:21.000 My husband had cancer and he passed away a couple of weeks ago.

00:15:26.000 But before he passed away, he got this pack and we were sitting there and he grabbed it and he started streaming the movie and started watching it and got the Holy Spirit just caught him.

00:15:38.000 And next thing you know, his wife led him to Christ.

00:15:41.000 He accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

00:15:43.000 Weeks later, passed away, unfortunately, but at least she knows that he's in heaven right now.

00:15:48.000 And so, just some great stories about those kinds of things.

00:15:52.000 We've done so much work, like in the inner city in Chicago and stuff, and just seeing the impact it's having, even on churches there and struggles they deal with with gangs and everything as well.

00:16:01.000 But you know, it's amazing if you plant that seed, the Holy Spirit can do amazing things.

00:16:05.000 Are there any parts of the country where we need more emphasis where we want to try to draw more attention where there's a deficit currently?

00:16:13.000 I would say that our strongest, the places we struggle the most are probably the Northeast and Northwest.

00:16:20.000 And so, along the coast, there, we need churches and individuals and youth groups and different organizations to step up and help us there.

00:16:29.000 Those have probably been our biggest struggles right now.

00:16:32.000 Well, that makes sense.

00:16:33.000 Those are the least churched corridors in the country.

00:16:36.000 So, that would certainly make sense.

00:16:39.000 Just recap, Scott: the four-step process: adopt, receive, assemble, saturate, all on saturateusa.org.

00:16:46.000 Really simple.

00:16:46.000 Just go to our website.

00:16:48.000 It'll take you about 15 seconds to fill out a form.

00:16:52.000 You'll get a call from our staff.

00:16:54.000 They'll call you.

00:16:54.000 We'll get you to adopt your area of your zip code you want to adopt or multiple ones.

00:16:59.000 And then, usually, within about two weeks, you'll get not only your maps, but all the packs shipped to you directly, free of charge.

00:17:06.000 And then it's up to you to basically put your church information in them and then decide the best way to get out in the community and get them to all the neighbors, all your neighbors, and all the people in your neighborhoods.

00:17:19.000 All 50 states have been saturated.

00:17:21.000 It's a God-sized vision.

00:17:23.000 When do you think you'll be able to hit that 120 by?

00:17:26.000 You know, we're hoping in the next three to four years would be our hope.

00:17:31.000 But, you know, it's a God thing.

00:17:33.000 When we, you know, first started this five years ago, I think we had the idea of 20 million.

00:17:39.000 And, you know, praying through it, the Lord said, no, I want all 120. 0.99

00:17:43.000 And so we're just trusting him.

00:17:45.000 You know, we're at almost 50 million.

00:17:49.000 And so we're hoping in the next probably three to five years that we could finish this up.

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00:17:53.000 It's amazing.

00:17:56.000 Scott, thank you so much.

00:17:57.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:18:53.000 Joining us now is Rich Barris.

00:18:55.000 Rich, welcome to the program.

00:18:56.000 Rich, what is going on here with Nikki Haley and potential crossovers?

00:19:01.000 The primary is Saturday.

00:19:02.000 Do I have that right?

00:19:03.000 You do indeed.

00:19:04.000 You do indeed. 1.00

00:19:05.000 Look, she's been spending a lot of money, Charlie, to get Democrats and behavioral Democrats. 0.99

00:19:11.000 It is an open primary to vote in the South Carolina primary the way that she got them to vote in New Hampshire.

00:19:18.000 Here's the problem.

00:19:19.000 There just, there simply aren't as many, you know, favorable demographics that you could get to do that in South Carolina that there are in New Hampshire, where the Democratic base that may be unwilling or just not excited to vote for Joe Biden, they're white, highly educated, have a high income.

00:19:41.000 That's New Hampshire.

00:19:43.000 In South Carolina, it's predominantly African-American.

00:19:46.000 More than 60% of the Democratic electorate is African-American.

00:19:50.000 So I'm not saying she's not going to get some of these people to do so.

00:19:53.000 I'm just simply saying that the pool is much smaller than it is in New Hampshire as a share of the overall electorate.

00:20:01.000 So what is your guess of how Saturday is going to shake out?

00:20:06.000 I think you can.

00:20:08.000 I think we should be a little bit more modest. 1.00

00:20:10.000 Maybe the Trump plus 30s, plus 35s are a little bit too much, but he's going to spank her.

00:20:15.000 I mean, the minute the polls close, we expect that we can make a call fairly easily.

00:20:21.000 You just cannot win.

00:20:23.000 She may win South Carolina six if she does a really good job, maybe the first district, because we have to look at how these delegates are aggregated.

00:20:33.000 But in a mediocre performance for her, you know, one that's a little bit better than expected, a Trump plus 18 or 20 Charlie, would only likely give her South Carolina six, which would give her three delegates, and that would be it. 0.68

00:20:48.000 But in all the polling, even those that are generous to her, she is not ahead in a single congressional district, which is bad for her.

00:20:56.000 It's winner-take-all at the at-large level, which means if you win the statewide vote, you get all of those delegates.

00:21:03.000 And the remaining delegates, three per congressional district, are winner-take-all at the district level.

00:21:08.000 So if she doesn't win any districts, because she's not going to win the state, she's not going to get a single delegate, not one.

00:21:15.000 And Politico.com reports more than 5,200 donors to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign have given money to Haley financially, including 1,600 who gave more than $500,000 in January alone.

00:21:31.000 Riff on this, Rich.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, they're having fun with this, Charlie.

00:21:35.000 They think it's hilarious.

00:21:36.000 I was talking to a reporter the other day.

00:21:37.000 There was a Democratic strategist on the other end of the line because they were asking us, you know, our opinion about this.

00:21:43.000 And my argument was she's here as a sabotage mission still. 0.93

00:21:49.000 And it's going to turn into a suicide mission, by the way, but she thinks it's a sabotage. 1.00

00:21:53.000 Democrats are happy to help her do that. 0.95

00:21:56.000 She's going to get bona fides or respect afterwards.

00:21:56.000 I don't know what she thinks.

00:21:59.000 She's going to end up like Charlie Crist, unwanted, untrusted, and unsupported by either side.

00:21:59.000 She's not.

00:22:05.000 She'll end up with no political home.

00:22:07.000 But the other end of the call, the Democratic consultant's laughing because he's making a joke about how this is going to pollute or dirty up the data on the Republican side.

00:22:16.000 And he says, oh, Rich, you know, it's up to people like you to fix that and you can fix that.

00:22:21.000 Yeah, sure.

00:22:22.000 And with millions of dollars and at least a cycle, if not two, to make sure that we don't throw out legitimate first-time primary voters.

00:22:31.000 For people who don't know what I'm talking about, when someone votes in a party's primary, for people like me, it identifies you as a potential supporter.

00:22:39.000 So campaigns are going to waste money mailing out mailers to them that people are going to shred up Charlie.

00:22:44.000 They're going to get their doors slammed on their face when they knock on the door.

00:22:48.000 And they're going to get opt-outs and wasted and deleted text messages, on and on and on.

00:22:52.000 He thought it was hilarious.

00:22:55.000 And what he didn't tell the reporter, which I did, is that, look, he thinks it's funny because Democrats have money to fix this.

00:23:04.000 They could always go to their donors, like those people, and say, I need another half a billion.

00:23:04.000 They have a lot.

00:23:09.000 And guess what?

00:23:09.000 They're going to cut that check.

00:23:11.000 No problem. 0.94

00:23:12.000 Republicans don't. 0.99

00:23:13.000 And they're blowing money hand over fists because the people won Donald Trump.

00:23:19.000 And eventually, this donor voter disconnect is going to have to come to a reckoning here.

00:23:25.000 The party should be ashamed of themselves, by the way, for even allowing Nikki Haley to do this.

00:23:30.000 They got played. 1.00

00:23:31.000 She should have never been allowed on a debate stage. 0.94

00:23:34.000 So I hope Rona and the rest of them enjoyed the couple of dollars that she got to stuff in her purse over advertising with the networks because this is what she's going to cost the party going forward a lot more than she's going to be.

00:23:45.000 So, I mean, talk about how detrimental this is. 0.96

00:23:49.000 I mean, especially if she keeps this data blurring going into states that are critical, right?

00:23:56.000 It really is.

00:23:57.000 And by the way, I have seen internal docs from her campaign. 0.97

00:24:00.000 It doesn't even count on her winning South Carolina.

00:24:04.000 This is a joke at this point.

00:24:06.000 It's not to them anyway.

00:24:07.000 It's a joke.

00:24:08.000 It's not even a serious attempt to win the nomination.

00:24:11.000 Their hope is that they do good enough in South Carolina they can, quote, survive it and then get in a Super Tuesday, Charlie, where there are a lot of key states and beyond even to March 12th and 19th.

00:24:21.000 And then every state that they spend money in, not even votes yet, but every state they spend money in is going to do damage and cause problems down the road for Republicans.

00:24:34.000 Once those votes are cast, then those are going to be more, I don't want to say permanent, but they'll turn into from a short-term problem to a mid or potentially long-term problem.

00:24:45.000 So the longer this continues, the worse and more severe and the more money it's going to cost Republicans down the road.

00:24:52.000 This is, again, this is 100% a sabotage mission.

00:24:56.000 I mean, I don't know why anybody would treat it.

00:24:59.000 And there's not a single state.

00:25:00.000 There's not a single state she can win, but it prevents consolidation.

00:25:04.000 It prevents all sorts of different elements here.

00:25:07.000 It really does.

00:25:08.000 And also by law, he cannot pivot to a general election yet.

00:25:12.000 You know that he can't.

00:25:13.000 He can't really begin to whack Joe Biden and start the conversation.

00:25:17.000 And why does that matter?

00:25:19.000 I would point people to a cycle like 04, when Kerry had these people just lagging and nipping at his heels when it was still clear he was going to be the nominee.

00:25:28.000 They saw that in the Bush camp and they started in March, in April, to cast John Kerry as an out-of-touch, rich, white, Northeasterner liberal, you know, from Massachusetts.

00:25:40.000 And they whacked him all through the spring over that and he couldn't respond.

00:25:45.000 So go look at the RCP average and people see the fruits of that labor.

00:25:49.000 By the time beginning of summer came along, Bush leapt out to a very big lead.

00:25:53.000 Now, Kerry shrunk that lead and ended up a much closer election, but you could see it had the impact that the Bush camp, Rovecamp wanted it to have.

00:26:03.000 So that's, I mean, there's practical and logistical things here that Nikki Haley is causing a problem with. 0.99

00:26:10.000 And if this was happening on the Democratic side, Charlie, they would like expel her. 1.00

00:26:16.000 They would hold a vote with delegates and they would expel her from the party. 0.78

00:26:20.000 I mean, so why don't Republicans do that? 0.98

00:26:24.000 Because they're foolish and somebody is going to have to stand up and say, you know what? 0.99

00:26:29.000 I think I'm responsible for this mistake. 0.99

00:26:32.000 There were times when she was having problems even qualifying for debates with polling.

00:26:38.000 Who was the organization that put together the qualifications for who is and who isn't an acceptable poll to use when qualifying whether Nikki Elliot could get on the debate stage or not?

00:26:49.000 That debate stage should have been if Donald Trump was going to go there.

00:26:53.000 Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis.

00:26:57.000 And that should have been it.

00:26:58.000 I mean, we're talking about a woman who was polling at 2% the last time there was a debate, Charlie. 0.89

00:27:03.000 So she got ground late.

00:27:05.000 She gained ground later.

00:27:06.000 This is, I really, I would put the blame square at the feet of the RNC.

00:27:11.000 They make money by having this a competitive contest.

00:27:14.000 It was never competitive, never.

00:27:16.000 And Nikki says she's going to stay in basically all the way to the convention is basically what she's signaling.

00:27:21.000 And he'll clinch whether she, you know, this is the delusion of this.

00:27:25.000 And Republicans got to ask themselves whether they're going to start tolerating delusions.

00:27:29.000 Like we're asked to tolerate the delusions of people who don't know what their gender is, Charlie.

00:27:34.000 He will clinch when he reaches 1249 by the latest March 19th, probably March 12th.

00:27:40.000 And that's just a mass.

00:27:42.000 She cannot stop him.

00:27:44.000 No amount of fake crying or, you know, pretending to rub your mascara, pulling Hillary Clinton.

00:27:49.000 No amount of that is going to stop him from clinching.

00:27:52.000 She's just going to be there. 1.00

00:27:55.000 It's just stupid. 1.00

00:27:56.000 It's just silly. 1.00

00:27:57.000 We should just stop tolerating this delusion.

00:28:00.000 And I mean, Democrats would never put up with this ever.

00:28:03.000 No way.

00:28:04.000 No way.

00:28:05.000 No chance.

00:28:06.000 I mean, and it's, you've heard Trump go to, you know, True Social and say, look, anyone who sticks with her is banned from MAGA.

00:28:14.000 Well, I got a list to give to them because there are people who are underhandedly doing this.

00:28:19.000 We've been posting them and tweeting them.

00:28:22.000 But, you know, we have friends like anybody else, Democrats in South Carolina.

00:28:26.000 They get these mailers every two days.

00:28:29.000 No matter how many times they reply stop to their text messages, somebody else just textes them again.

00:28:34.000 The SFA fund is a big deal.

00:28:37.000 They're a pro-Nikki Haley super PAC run by Mark Harris.

00:28:40.000 I mean, we have a laundry list of this stuff.

00:28:43.000 By the way, they're violating 10 DLC.

00:28:46.000 And that's going to really, that could really screw all of us, pollsters, everybody, because that's the telecom industry.

00:28:53.000 By the way, they just ignore the unsubscribe.

00:28:55.000 You know how many times I've unsubscribed to their emails and they just keep on emailing?

00:28:58.000 It's outrageous.

00:28:59.000 They're breaking the law.

00:29:00.000 They're breaking the law.

00:29:02.000 And Charlie, if telecoms, if 10 DLC does not work, because I know I was part of 10 DLC, if it doesn't work, then AT ⁇ T, Verizon, all the telecoms are going to run to the government and they're going to get the government to do this.

00:29:16.000 And then that's not going to be good for anybody.

00:29:19.000 Nobody, nobody breaks, like there's always a mess up.

00:29:22.000 You know, there's somebody's not removed from the do not call list or something like that, or somebody is called from the do not call list, which is exempt politically.

00:29:30.000 But when it comes to texting, once a user says, stop, they have got to stop and remove them from all further texting.

00:29:38.000 If they don't do that, Charlie, then the government's going to be the next one to step in all because what?

00:29:42.000 Nikki Haley didn't want to follow the rules?

00:29:44.000 This is insane. 0.92

00:29:46.000 Every campaign screws up here and there.

00:29:48.000 But my God, Mark Caputo wrote a whole article about it the other day on his Bulwark Stub Stack.

00:29:53.000 These are not just, and they're not even Republican voters.

00:29:56.000 These are Democratic voters and many of them African American.

00:30:00.000 And they're like, look, I hit stop 800 times.

00:30:03.000 This is bad.

00:30:04.000 And anyone else who was a part of 10 DLC or wants to see it succeed, they better stand up right now.

00:30:12.000 Because do you know what government intervention means?

00:30:14.000 It means a lot more money the next time you want to do any marketing.

00:30:18.000 It means a lot more money the next time you come to me for a poll.

00:30:21.000 I mean, this is a problem.

00:30:23.000 And somebody's got to, somebody other than me should be standing up and voicing, forget about Nikki Haley.

00:30:30.000 Because, you know, this is a big problem.

00:30:32.000 And they're going to cause, you know, this industry to have the government's boot on our neck.

00:30:36.000 Thank you very much, Nikki Helly.

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00:31:53.000 So Rich, talk to me, VP.

00:31:55.000 I was with the president yesterday.

00:31:56.000 Obviously, a hot topic of conversation.

00:32:00.000 Who are the no-goes?

00:32:01.000 Who are the ones that could hurt Trump?

00:32:02.000 Let's start there.

00:32:03.000 Nikki Haley's a no-go, period.

00:32:05.000 Full stop.

00:32:06.000 Not that that was ever, you know, in the selection process.

00:32:11.000 I think this time he's got to throw a bomb, Charlie.

00:32:14.000 I think Donald Trump's decision this year for VP is unlike any other presidential nominee that we've ever, that we've ever seen because he needs to ensure whomever he picks is either just as scary, if not scarier to the establishment and the administrative state than he is.

00:32:34.000 Because if it's somebody the establishment thinks they could play ball with, they'll do something to stab him in the back and try to remove it.

00:32:40.000 There'll be an impeachment 3.0 within three months, you know.

00:32:45.000 And, you know, if that doesn't work, then I dare to even imagine what could be next.

00:32:52.000 But I think somebody, this is an election about moving forward and having new ideas, even though it's a president that's already been president.

00:33:02.000 And in some ways, people want to go back, but they don't want to go back to like a Mike Pence, Charlie.

00:33:07.000 Like the no-go is the idea, the mentality that led him to choose Mike Pence.

00:33:14.000 That's like old thinking.

00:33:16.000 And I wouldn't even care too much about region at this point.

00:33:19.000 Somebody who's a breath of fresh air, who represents MAGA, because MAGA is the new growing base.

00:33:25.000 They're the only one with any growth.

00:33:27.000 You know, within a cycle or two, the old Republican guard is going to literally die out.

00:33:33.000 I mean, it has to be somebody who represents them because they'll be the de facto, you know, the de facto leader of MAGA when Donald Trump is done serving as presidency.

00:33:46.000 So he's got to think like that this time.

00:33:48.000 It cannot be the usual suspects.

00:33:50.000 Yeah.

00:33:51.000 So your final recommendation?

00:33:54.000 Oof.

00:33:55.000 You know, I hate to tell them who, but, you know, somebody like a bomb, like a Vivek, or I know that there are people who are still skeptical of him.

00:34:04.000 I think that he would earn their trust.

00:34:06.000 I mean, have you seen those two together?

00:34:09.000 It's there's magic there, Charlie.

00:34:11.000 There is.

00:34:12.000 I even do like the idea of a Tucker if he'd ever take it, but I mean a bomb like that.

00:34:17.000 And there is the, look, I like Tim Scott.

00:34:19.000 I think he's a nice guy.

00:34:21.000 I just think that there are going to be so many knives that he needs somebody who's going to be watching his back.

00:34:27.000 Yeah.

00:34:28.000 It's of all the three states, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, which one concerns you the most? 0.92

00:34:35.000 Arizona's Arizona and Georgia are just so dirty. 0.90

00:34:37.000 He's polling so strong there now, but they're just so dirty.

00:34:41.000 Wisconsin has a habit of polling a little bit more Democratic than it actually performs.

00:34:47.000 But honestly, all of them, Wisconsin, probably, I would have to say, probably Wisconsin, even though Maricopa is just a fest.

00:34:55.000 And I learned about that in 22 with Kerry Lake and what happened there.

00:34:58.000 But I have to say Wisconsin because Ron Johnson should have won that race in 22 by more than one point.

00:35:05.000 Mandela Barnes had groups behind him and Ron Johnson had ads on TV.

00:35:10.000 And that got really close, Charlie, really close.

00:35:14.000 And because Wisconsin votes or has voted in the last eight elections, the same as Michigan and Pennsylvania, you want one to go your way because then the likelihood of the other two going your way, which means you have the presidency, is very high.

00:35:30.000 Again, all three he needs.

00:35:33.000 He needs all three of them.

00:35:34.000 Rich, excellent work.

00:35:35.000 Thanks so much.

00:35:36.000 We'll see what happens on Saturday.

00:35:37.000 Thank you.

00:35:38.000 All the best, Charlie.

00:35:40.000 Talk to you guys soon.

00:35:40.000 Thanks so much for listening.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 23, 2024

The Data Behind Nikki Haley’s Dreadful Campaign

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