The Charlie Kirk Show - October 29, 2026


Why Every Election is Existential

Lies and Dirty Tricks + Our Debate with Tim Miller

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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00:01:17.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It's October 29th, 2026.
00:01:20.000 We are just five days out from the midterm.
00:01:23.000 And I hate to tell you this, but every election is an existential election. 0.60
00:01:29.000 And that is not because necessarily you've done anything wrong, but it's because the left is becoming increasingly deranged, psychotic.
00:01:38.000 Third world and dangerous. 0.95
00:01:41.000 Reject the violent left.
00:01:44.000 Now, we can talk about our wins.
00:01:46.000 We've spent a lot of time on this show talking about our wins.
00:01:48.000 We've even gone through lists of how many wins President Trump has made good on, how many promises that he has delivered for the American people on.
00:01:59.000 And that's important.
00:02:00.000 It's important to define the positives and define all the good that has been done.
00:02:07.000 But sometimes it's necessary.
00:02:10.000 To focus on how evil and vile many, unfortunately, too many on the left have become.
00:02:17.000 And I have story after story that we are going to go through this morning, Blake, on college campuses that are happening as we speak because I have a theory that the left is getting emboldened.
00:02:30.000 They are seeing the polling.
00:02:32.000 They are seeing that, I guess you could say, they smell blood in the water. 0.90
00:02:36.000 And maybe that's too morose and macabre, but oh well, it is true.
00:02:41.000 And I think what you're seeing is the demons.
00:02:44.000 Of the left are coming out in force.
00:02:47.000 Blake, feel free to chime in here, but we're going to play the clips because it's important to see.
00:02:51.000 Look, we've all had our encounters.
00:02:53.000 There's a lot of people who think, I'm not super enthused about some specific thing in Trump.
00:02:59.000 They wanted more on Epstein.
00:03:00.000 They didn't want the war with Iran.
00:03:01.000 They're not as fired up as we are about the border or rolling back DEI or reindustrialization, all the wins that we've talked about.
00:03:08.000 Some people are not going to be sold on those.
00:03:10.000 But what maybe they should be reminded of, what they could maybe be sold on is look, There are a lot of nasty people out there, and you may not see them every day.
00:03:20.000 You may not talk to them.
00:03:21.000 It may be easy to ignore that they exist. 0.99
00:03:24.000 But there are a lot of people out there who, if you confront them, they're pretty happy to say, We want you dead. 1.00
00:03:31.000 We are going to gloat about how we would love to kill you and get away with it. 0.99
00:03:35.000 And if God willing, we'll be able to do that someday. 0.99
00:03:38.000 And that's what they'll do.
00:03:39.000 And all you have to do is look at Brazil and what they're doing to Flavio Bolsonaro and the political opponents, jailing them, removing their passports, to understand that.
00:03:49.000 When they get in political power, you are about to see, we are on the threshold of about to see very radical, dangerous, destructive, and yes, violent political actions from the left.
00:04:02.000 And we've seen it already.
00:04:04.000 This show knows it intimately well.
00:04:07.000 And you may not see it in your own life, but we do.
00:04:11.000 This is Alex Stein.
00:04:12.000 He was doing a pick up the mic event yesterday at the University of Oregon.
00:04:17.000 And this is what he encountered.
00:04:19.000 Sop 4.
00:04:21.000 We're not going to get any Hitler. 0.94
00:04:24.000 Did you hear you? 1.00
00:04:28.000 Alex Stein is a clown. 0.99
00:04:29.000 Come here, thanks if he's alive. 1.00
00:04:36.000 Alex Stein is a clown. 1.00
00:04:40.000 You're a fucking fascist. 1.00
00:04:44.000 No, you're not. 1.00
00:05:04.000 Out of Oregon! 0.98
00:05:07.000 You're not gonna propagandize children, you Nazi!
00:05:13.000 Apparently, that gentleman has been identified on social media.
00:05:18.000 I'm not sure if it's doxing or not, but you can find his name.
00:05:22.000 He posts his own social media clips talking about vile things, destructive things, gross things.
00:05:30.000 You can throw his picture up 146.
00:05:34.000 And this is.
00:05:36.000 A grown man that should know better.
00:05:39.000 And that's what he looks like. 0.87
00:05:41.000 Look at the hate spewing forth out of his mouth and his eyes. 0.54
00:05:47.000 Just pure venom and vitriol consumed.
00:05:52.000 But it doesn't stop there, unfortunately.
00:05:56.000 This is another interesting moment that had just happened on campus at the UT San Antonio pick up the mic event.
00:06:06.000 It was featuring Christian Collins.
00:06:09.000 And she decided to read a poem about Charlie's death.
00:06:13.000 And again, I apologize for exposing the audience to this, but it's important that you see it.
00:06:19.000 Sot 7.
00:06:21.000 I took a plan B, and I'm an immigrant this morning, like feeling kind of guilty, so I wanted to read a poem that I actually wrote.
00:06:27.000 It was the night before the Kirk Aversary, and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
00:06:34.000 The flags were hung proudly, the memes all on deck, as we solemnly remembered.
00:06:39.000 A shot to the neck.
00:06:41.000 The podcast fell silent. 0.83
00:06:43.000 The hot takes grew wary.
00:06:45.000 For tomorrow, dear friends, is the great Kirk Aversary.
00:06:49.000 So I'll see everyone at the Squirt for Kirk.
00:06:50.000 We're hosting that also on October 10th.
00:06:53.000 I'll see y'all there to BYOE.
00:06:55.000 You know, vaccines included.
00:06:57.000 That's all.
00:06:59.000 Are you happy with yourself now?
00:07:00.000 I mean, I think that was just.
00:07:03.000 Baby, I'm thrilled.
00:07:04.000 Yeah, well, I mean.
00:07:05.000 You're brave for being out here.
00:07:06.000 You know, no protection, no nothing, no like neck brace or.
00:07:10.000 I'll pray for you.
00:07:13.000 No neck brace.
00:07:14.000 You see that?
00:07:15.000 They love to do this.
00:07:16.000 This is their new thing.
00:07:18.000 Watch your neck.
00:07:19.000 We have yet, unfortunately, another story that proves this out of the University of Maryland.
00:07:27.000 Allow me to introduce to you Xavier Perry.
00:07:32.000 Show the image.
00:07:35.000 Xavier Perry is a DSA student at the University of Maryland.
00:07:39.000 And on September 10th, on the one year anniversary of Charlie's murder, He approached a TPUSA tabling event and proceeded to pour ketchup down his neck and began to convulse, reenacting Charlie's assassination.
00:07:54.000 He then posted this video in this image that you proudly on social media that you can see there.
00:08:00.000 It was captured by Campus Reform.
00:08:02.000 Shout out to them for covering it. 0.89
00:08:04.000 And it said, Yo, you best protect your neck because apparently he's also a thug.
00:08:13.000 Now, the dean of the University of Maryland, dean of students and director of student conduct, James E. Bond, dismissed complaints against Perry, saying it wasn't criminal, it wasn't a criminal act.
00:08:26.000 I don't care if it wasn't a criminal act, it was contemptible and vile and evil at the very least.
00:08:33.000 That student should be expelled.
00:08:37.000 It's not even a close call.
00:08:39.000 And now our students at the University of Maryland, unfortunately, require police presence at any tabling event that they do or any chapter meeting that they do because the university refuses to hold those accountable that would threaten them.
00:08:53.000 And the same people who make those threats will then, their allies and the admin will say, This is why we can't allow turning point events.
00:08:58.000 I mean, they need so much security.
00:08:59.000 They must cause so much trouble because the left are the ones who do this.
00:09:03.000 There's a great take.
00:09:04.000 There's a journalist, Mike Solana, he runs Pirate Wires, and he pointed out in response to that student at UT San Antonio.
00:09:11.000 This is not a small group of people on the left.
00:09:13.000 It is a large faction.
00:09:14.000 It is a dominant faction.
00:09:17.000 The Democrats cannot win elections without these people.
00:09:20.000 They must pander to them.
00:09:21.000 They must cater to them.
00:09:23.000 If they don't publicly agree with them, many silently agree with them. 0.99
00:09:27.000 There is no debating them because these people just want to brag, ha ha, we can kill you. 0.95
00:09:33.000 That is what their message is.
00:09:35.000 Not, we'll help you on the issues, we'll make your life better. 1.00
00:09:37.000 It's, we will kill you. 0.96
00:09:39.000 I want to show you a couple graphs that should. 0.97
00:09:43.000 Genuinely, and I don't say this lightly, but put the fear of God right into your heart.
00:09:50.000 Throw up 143.
00:09:53.000 Most Americans across the political spectrum say political violence is never justified, but younger and more liberal Americans are more likely to disagree.
00:10:04.000 You see that very liberal, that top graph in the bottom portion there, the top bar, political ideology, very liberal.
00:10:14.000 Yes, violence is sometimes justified.
00:10:17.000 Or not sure accounts for 39% of very liberal.
00:10:25.000 Liberal, it accounts for 29%.
00:10:30.000 I guess you could look at this and say, I'm glad that a majority still don't think violence is justified.
00:10:36.000 But as Charlie's murder taught us, all it takes is one.
00:10:40.000 All it takes is one lunatic, one deranged psychopathic lunatic to get into a group chat or on Discord or on Blue Sky. 0.90
00:10:50.000 And to be radicalized, to become convinced that violence is justified, that taking a sniper rifle to your political opponent is completely okay for the greater good. 0.96
00:11:02.000 And then you have the media apparatus.
00:11:04.000 You have Jimmy Kimmel, you have CNN, MS Now.
00:11:08.000 You have guys like we had on yesterday, Tim Miller, who dehumanize ICE agents and they go after them too, calling them thugs and Nazi, Gestapo.
00:11:20.000 That is a terrifying number.
00:11:22.000 And notice that the more conservative you get, the less likely you are to think that political violence is okay.
00:11:30.000 One side has abandoned God, and the other side worships him.
00:11:36.000 One side has dehumanized their political opponents, the other side disagrees with theirs.
00:11:42.000 That's a terrifying graph.
00:11:44.000 Let me show you something that Charlie himself posted on social media.
00:11:50.000 This is 140.
00:11:53.000 Again, Charlie knew this graph.
00:11:57.000 Justification for murder of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
00:12:03.000 Left of center, nearly 50% of respondents said it was justified to kill Elon Musk.
00:12:11.000 55% said it was justifiable to kill President Trump.
00:12:19.000 Left of center.
00:12:20.000 We know where the political violence problem is in America.
00:12:24.000 Now, we could say, yeah, and there's Charlie's tweet.
00:12:30.000 I don't have it up just right now, but let me pull it up.
00:12:34.000 Want me to read it?
00:12:34.000 I can put it on the screen.
00:12:35.000 Assassination culture is spreading on the left.
00:12:37.000 48% of liberals say that it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk.
00:12:43.000 55% said the same about Donald Trump.
00:12:45.000 In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangione.
00:12:50.000 The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy.
00:12:53.000 Any setback, losing an election, or losing a court case justifies maximally violent response.
00:12:59.000 This is the natural outgrowth of left wing protest culture.
00:13:03.000 Tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end.
00:13:05.000 The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials has turned the left into a ticking time bomb.
00:13:10.000 And I can expand on that.
00:13:12.000 First of it, yes, a lot of that is the immense emotional immaturity that you see.
00:13:17.000 Every setback is fascism. 0.87
00:13:19.000 And especially these days, their coalition includes a lot of really mentally immature, imbalanced people. 1.00
00:13:26.000 So that's why we see those trans shooters. 0.99
00:13:27.000 They're told every day if they don't affirm your fetish, your weird sexual perversion, That you maybe got from watching too much pornography online or whatever, they're trying to genocide you. 0.99
00:13:39.000 They are trying to do the Holocaust on you. 0.85
00:13:41.000 And because those people are also, as it turns out, often on the autistic spectrum, they take things very literally.
00:13:46.000 They tend to follow everything to its maximally extreme conclusion.
00:13:52.000 And so they go, oh, they're saying they're trying to murder me?
00:13:57.000 Oh, oh no. 0.54
00:13:59.000 Well, then everything's justified.
00:14:00.000 Yes, everything is justified.
00:14:01.000 Then they're thinking, oh, I will pick up a gun. 0.96
00:14:04.000 You're supposed to use force to stop the Holocaust, right? 0.96
00:14:06.000 They'll say that. 0.97
00:14:07.000 There's so many other things.
00:14:08.000 Even that number that, oh, 25% are okay with violence.
00:14:11.000 You might think, oh, 75% aren't.
00:14:13.000 That's not a panic button yet.
00:14:15.000 But it really is.
00:14:16.000 Because when you have that proportion, it makes it that much more likely that their political faction is going to have to worry about those people.
00:14:23.000 They might have to cater to them because they don't want to alienate them.
00:14:27.000 There's a story that came out of Germany that's related to this, actually.
00:14:31.000 A woman on a far left party, text messages came out that she wanted to run for mayor, but she decided not to.
00:14:38.000 Because she feared radical Islamists in their coalition would be mad because I think she wasn't a Muslim and they want to get a Muslim mayor of Berlin.
00:14:46.000 So she's now just living in fear of the Islamists in her own party.
00:14:50.000 That can happen in America too.
00:14:52.000 They're worried about the people who are going to be reading that Kirk Aversary stuff.
00:14:55.000 That's the key.
00:14:56.000 So this has political ramifications.
00:14:59.000 Ultimately, and I go back to what you see in Brazil, Lula is a far leftist, he's a communist.
00:15:06.000 And maybe that feels distant.
00:15:07.000 Maybe that feels like it can't come here.
00:15:09.000 No, it's coming here.
00:15:13.000 It's already here.
00:15:15.000 And the truth is, the left has lost touch with God.
00:15:20.000 Every far left movement in the history of humanity ultimately becomes a godless, authoritarian hellscape.
00:15:30.000 And why is that?
00:15:32.000 Because their ultimate God is the Nirvana, the utopia that they promised their people.
00:15:38.000 As a Christian, we know that that will never happen here on earth.
00:15:42.000 We never expect perfection here on earth.
00:15:46.000 What we ask for and demand is that our God given liberties would be intact and not be subject to the whims of Congress or a king or a tyrant.
00:15:57.000 We demand liberty to live our lives, freedom to choose as we would choose, to worship our God.
00:16:05.000 The left demands subjugation and pure fidelity to the ruling authority because they're the ones, according to their religion, to their cult, that can deliver.
00:16:20.000 Nirvana that can deliver this utopian false promise.
00:16:24.000 And since it never will come true, they ultimately revert back to more and more authoritarianism, more and more coercion, seizure of property, because ultimately you, the free man, the free critical thinker, the child of God, is the only thing standing in their way.
00:16:44.000 So everything becomes justifiable to them.
00:16:47.000 Everything becomes a means.
00:16:50.000 To their perfect end that will never materialize because humans are fallen and sinful.
00:16:56.000 So they can justify every type of evil, every type of violence.
00:17:00.000 They can feel smug and virtuous as they mock a dead man who died innocently, exercising his God given rights of free speech and debate on a college campus.
00:17:12.000 And they will jeer at you, and they will mock you, and ridicule you, and spit at you, and scream at you, and call you names.
00:17:20.000 Feeling virtuous as they do it, feeling pure as they do it, feeling faithful to their ideology.
00:17:29.000 And it's demonic.
00:17:30.000 And if you don't vote on November 3rd, you are giving power over to demonic forces.
00:17:37.000 It's as simple as that.
00:17:40.000 The veil's torn on both directions, and the mask is off for them.
00:17:45.000 We must stop them.
00:17:47.000 It is that serious.
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00:19:08.000 We win if we turn out.
00:19:09.000 It's that simple.
00:19:10.000 It's not about persuasion.
00:19:11.000 It's not about winning over suburban wine moms.
00:19:14.000 It's not about any of that.
00:19:15.000 It's about turnout.
00:19:16.000 It's about turnout.
00:19:19.000 We lose if we drop the ball.
00:19:20.000 We are in the driver's seat.
00:19:22.000 Look, this is the key, everybody.
00:19:23.000 You have to become a force multiplier.
00:19:25.000 If you're a super voter, just voting is not enough.
00:19:27.000 You have to go find other ones and nag them and get them out of people that were otherwise on the table.
00:19:32.000 It's going to be a question of can MAGA not just vote, but can MAGA do the work? 0.55
00:19:36.000 You all know a voter that can change the country.
00:19:39.000 You all know that.
00:19:40.000 I think about that.
00:19:41.000 We got an email that said, Why should I early vote?
00:19:44.000 And I just reminded them what you said.
00:19:46.000 A banked vote is worth more than a potential vote.
00:19:48.000 It's a vote we're not spending resources trying to reach.
00:19:51.000 It's a vote we already can count on, and that means we can plan around it.
00:19:55.000 All of those reasons, vote early.
00:19:57.000 You can do it in person in most states right now, still.
00:19:59.000 You can drop off your ballot if you got it in the mail.
00:20:02.000 Yeah, in Arizona, for example, you got to drop it off in person.
00:20:04.000 You can't mail it in anymore.
00:20:06.000 It's too late.
00:20:07.000 Vote early.
00:20:09.000 I'm always tempted to say vote early, vote often, but that's what the left does.
00:20:12.000 We don't do that.
00:20:13.000 But it does kind of roll off the tongue.
00:20:14.000 Vote early and vote every time.
00:20:16.000 Yeah, vote.
00:20:16.000 There you go.
00:20:18.000 We are joined in.
00:20:18.000 Studio by the one and only Andrew Claven.
00:20:21.000 Well, let's hope I'm the one and only.
00:20:22.000 You are, as far as I know, there's not another like Andrew Claven on some ballot like the decoy Dan story out of Alaska.
00:20:30.000 No, they're still looking.
00:20:31.000 Yeah.
00:20:31.000 Yeah.
00:20:31.000 Well, like, yeah.
00:20:32.000 Well, by the way, that's we're going to talk about that with Mark Halperin in the next hour.
00:20:36.000 It's become criminal, which, uh, that's a criminal investigation at least.
00:20:39.000 It's unclear if it's criminal, but it's certainly not a positive reflection on our current political moment.
00:20:45.000 The dirty tricks.
00:20:45.000 It's an absolutely dirty trick.
00:20:47.000 I mean, you can't get much dirtier than that.
00:20:49.000 And it's so, it's so low and petty and tells you everything, you know, the, They don't really stand for anything.
00:20:54.000 I haven't heard one left wing speech where they say, This is what we stand for, except giving you money.
00:21:00.000 Their whole defense of it is actually, it's like, Well, it's not that it's illegal or that we shouldn't have done it, it's that we do it all the time.
00:21:07.000 That's their best defense, literally, on MS Now.
00:21:10.000 That was their whole line.
00:21:11.000 That was Nixon's defense.
00:21:14.000 Nobody does this.
00:21:15.000 This is the first time I can think of, maybe it's happened before in politics, where they actually do ballot stacking with somebody with the same name.
00:21:25.000 It's got to have happened at some point.
00:21:27.000 Like in the Roman Empire.
00:21:28.000 The funniest one is there's definitely been cases where candidates, genuine opposed candidates, had the same name.
00:21:35.000 That is really funny when that happens.
00:21:36.000 I think they had to just put a one after the name of one of them.
00:21:39.000 Oh, but it was genuine.
00:21:41.000 And they straight up had the campaign signs that said, vote Williams 1, not Williams 2, vote Williams 1.
00:21:47.000 Think about the state of politics that we have low information voters that can't do the due diligence to go, which one has the R next to it?
00:21:55.000 You know, like, yeah, it does.
00:21:59.000 We're that worried about the way that people getting confused.
00:22:03.000 I mean, I wonder how elections work in Korea where 25% of people are named Kim.
00:22:09.000 Well, that's a good point. 0.99
00:22:11.000 They're much more rigorous.
00:22:13.000 They probably got used to it by now.
00:22:14.000 You talk about these low, you know, information voters, though.
00:22:17.000 We've got candidates who literally have declared that they hate the country, they want to destroy the country, and then while they're running, they say, Well, I said that, but I don't really mean it.
00:22:26.000 And literally, Some voters are like, well, gas prices are high.
00:22:31.000 I said that when there was no backlash to what I said.
00:22:34.000 And now that there are consequences, I'm going to decide to change.
00:22:37.000 I'll say something different.
00:22:38.000 And the voters are going, okay. 1.00
00:22:40.000 Well, I mean, it's wild too when you've got like an Abdul El Sayed, right?
00:22:44.000 Who apparently his dad worked at a charity, charity that got raided by the FBI and the Department of Defense at the time.
00:22:56.000 And they were funneling money to Iraq.
00:22:59.000 And it's like, okay, so you got that.
00:23:01.000 Then we know his mom had long term ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:23:06.000 We know his sister is admitted to those ties that her family is tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.99
00:23:12.000 Celebrated the ties. 0.96
00:23:14.000 He speaks at an Islamic center in Detroit that basically radicalizes jihadis. 0.61
00:23:21.000 He says, hurt people hurt people when talking about terror and, you know, Islamic terror.
00:23:29.000 He didn't want to condemn the Ayatollah because it might offend some of his people.
00:23:37.000 He campaigns with Hassan Piker, who said America deserves 9 11. 0.79
00:23:41.000 When you ask him to condemn the Muslim Brotherhood, he doesn't say yes or no. 0.94
00:23:46.000 He goes, Let me ask you a question.
00:23:47.000 You just asked me that because I'm Muslim?
00:23:49.000 Yeah.
00:23:49.000 He can't give you a one word answer.
00:23:51.000 This guy hates us.
00:23:54.000 As a matter of fact, he goes to certain communities in Michigan saying, I hate it here.
00:23:59.000 I hate coming here.
00:24:02.000 And yet, he's the odds favorite to win the Senate race.
00:24:05.000 So they say.
00:24:06.000 So they say.
00:24:06.000 Well, this is the other reason to vote early because there's been a massive psyop, I think.
00:24:11.000 To make us despair.
00:24:12.000 You know, I don't trust the polls.
00:24:14.000 I'm not saying that every poll is targeted against us, but I think they're all slanted in a certain way.
00:24:19.000 And I think the news media, if you go on Newsbusters where they keep track of what the news media is doing, they'll tell you that the reports of positive stories about the right are almost non existent.
00:24:29.000 The reports of positive, negative stories about the left are almost non existent.
00:24:33.000 They're virtually campaigning.
00:24:35.000 The news media is virtually campaigning.
00:24:36.000 Oh, it's a super PAC.
00:24:37.000 It's a super PAC for the Democrats.
00:24:40.000 You know, it's crazy, though.
00:24:41.000 It's like, El Sayed isn't even the first instance of this sort of like he hates people and yet he might get elected.
00:24:47.000 Jay Jones in Virginia, right?
00:24:50.000 You know, throw up 141.
00:24:51.000 We had this. 0.99
00:24:52.000 You know, if those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals and pee on their graves. 0.99
00:24:59.000 Send them out awash in something. 0.99
00:25:02.000 And the person goes, Jay Jones, three people, two bullets Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. 0.96
00:25:07.000 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. 0.59
00:25:09.000 Spoiler put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know and he receives both bullets every time.
00:25:16.000 This guy's now AG of Virginia.
00:25:18.000 The Attorney General of Virginia.
00:25:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:20.000 And it just doesn't, you know, the polls you were showing before, before I came on, saying how many people support violence or at least support it in theory really tell you something, first of all, about the way ideologies work, the way they replace real values with fake values so that suddenly evil becomes good and, you know, and it washes out all conventional good.
00:25:40.000 Yeah.
00:25:41.000 Under politics, it matters a lot more.
00:25:44.000 The left is going to be a lot more outraged if you, you know, If you said something a decade ago that they decide is racist, then if you're a serial liar, if you're a serial adulterer, if you're known for being manipulative and cruel and awful, and in fact, they cultivate a lot of that. 0.50
00:25:58.000 You blowed over Charlie's mind. 0.81
00:26:00.000 So it's so visible with that girl at UT San Antonio that what she's saying is gross, but what's repulsive about is not the literal words. 0.99
00:26:08.000 It's that this is clearly a hateful, nasty person. 0.92
00:26:12.000 That even if she weren't saying this to our face, you can tell she is an awful person because of how she behaves. 1.00
00:26:18.000 Apparently, she's a Brazilian immigrant. 1.00
00:26:20.000 Well, send her back. 1.00
00:26:21.000 Yeah, so send her back. 1.00
00:26:21.000 I'm sure Lola would love to have her in the crap hole country. 1.00
00:26:24.000 I'm not going to dox her, but I am very okay if she gets deported. 0.99
00:26:28.000 I would.
00:26:28.000 I just don't know her name.
00:26:29.000 Otherwise, I would.
00:26:30.000 It's on the internet, but don't say it.
00:26:31.000 They always have that smile, too, that same self satisfied smile. 0.95
00:26:34.000 It's a psychopathic smile. 0.97
00:26:36.000 It is. 1.00
00:26:37.000 You look like a horror movie.
00:26:38.000 These are people without any problems.
00:26:39.000 These are people living in America without any.
00:26:42.000 She's gidget.
00:26:43.000 She's like this kid. 0.60
00:26:45.000 She doesn't have any kind of tragic problems that require death, that require murdering other people or laughing at the murder of other people.
00:26:52.000 She's fine.
00:26:52.000 Everything's good.
00:26:53.000 And a sign of that is that their personality is also fake.
00:26:56.000 On top of everything else she does, it's like they're acting at all times.
00:27:00.000 It's transformative.
00:27:01.000 It's like they're imitating a character they saw on television, which people have always done.
00:27:05.000 They've imitated poetry characters, novel characters.
00:27:09.000 But I think our novels used to be a little bit better, or at least more morally self affirming.
00:27:13.000 Now they're just acting like people giving villain speeches and bad TV shows.
00:27:17.000 Segway, you brought up novels and characters.
00:27:19.000 You've got a new book out, Andrew.
00:27:19.000 Yes.
00:27:21.000 I do.
00:27:21.000 I do.
00:27:22.000 Find Me Nowhere.
00:27:23.000 It is another thriller in my Cameron Winter series, which.
00:27:26.000 It's been a best selling series.
00:27:28.000 I just want to say.
00:27:28.000 Congrats on that.
00:27:29.000 Thank you.
00:27:30.000 We've got the graphic here.
00:27:32.000 It's beautiful.
00:27:32.000 Beautiful cover, by the way.
00:27:34.000 I think so too.
00:27:35.000 They did a great job.
00:27:36.000 They caught the romance of the story.
00:27:38.000 It's an action story, but it's got a lot of romance in it.
00:27:40.000 I was at Poison Pen, which is one of the two greatest crime bookstores in the country.
00:27:46.000 It's right here in Phoenix, in Scottsdale.
00:27:48.000 If you've never been to it, it's a really great bookstore.
00:27:50.000 And the place was packed, and it was incredibly touching.
00:27:54.000 They ran out of books, but they won't do that in Dallas.
00:27:56.000 I'll be in Dallas on Friday at the Interabang bookstore.
00:28:00.000 And it's been incredibly moving to have people show up and talk about what it means to have some some art that isn't destructive, that isn't putting forward this leftist vision that we get over and over in every movie, every TV show, every late night comic has the same opinion.
00:28:17.000 And if you don't have that opinion, they will hound you to death.
00:28:19.000 And somehow, basically, because I have a publisher who has supported me even when my book was published.
00:28:25.000 We should give him a shout.
00:28:25.000 Who's your publisher?
00:28:26.000 Yes, Mysterious Press.
00:28:28.000 And it is run by Otto Penzler, who is the great mystery and crime editor of the last generation.
00:28:34.000 Wait, his name is Otto Penn?
00:28:36.000 Yeah.
00:28:37.000 Otto Penn?
00:28:38.000 I've teased him about that too.
00:28:40.000 He's got a portrait at the White House.
00:28:42.000 But he is a hard, hard boiled guy who just will take the flack that we have taken together.
00:28:47.000 And the thing about this is this thing about these books, you know, these are books about a man who was a bad man.
00:28:53.000 He was an assassin who was trying to become a good man.
00:28:55.000 And the reason I'm writing these is because if you watch TV, if you watch the great shows that came out in the 2000s Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Shield, The Wire, it was all about real men, but they were all bad guys.
00:29:07.000 They were all corrupt.
00:29:08.000 And I had been writing about that in the 90s.
00:29:10.000 And so I wondered why this was the case, why there were all that.
00:29:13.000 that kind of guy.
00:29:14.000 And I thought, well, when you outlaw masculinity, only outlaws can be masculine.
00:29:19.000 So what would it take to create a character who's a real man, but a good man? 0.77
00:29:24.000 And the reason they can't do it in Hollywood, there's a simple reason, is they can't write real women. 0.63
00:29:29.000 There's nothing that will get you shot down faster than writing women as women actually are.
00:29:33.000 And so that's what I do.
00:29:35.000 And I've had problems.
00:29:37.000 I've had editors try to take them out. 1.00
00:29:38.000 Can't this woman punch somebody in the face, not without breaking her hand and getting kicked? 1.00
00:29:44.000 To death. 1.00
00:29:44.000 No, she can't, you know. 1.00
00:29:45.000 And so she actually needs men to protect them and support them, and they just don't want to write that. 0.98
00:29:50.000 So chauvinist.
00:29:51.000 I am a total sexist. 0.97
00:29:53.000 Everyone's brain is cooked by the Avengers. 0.98
00:29:55.000 Everyone's got to be that Black Widow, Scarlett Johansson. 1.00
00:29:57.000 Or Scarlett Johansson. 1.00
00:29:58.000 Yeah, Scarlett Johansson.
00:29:59.000 I don't watch them.
00:30:01.000 Russ watches them for me, so I can just ask him about it.
00:30:01.000 I think so.
00:30:05.000 So, yeah, I mean, the idea that women need protection is actually, it should be a beautiful thing.
00:30:11.000 It is a beautiful thing.
00:30:13.000 And yet we've turned it into something that's.
00:30:15.000 You know, like so much of our culture, it's like completely upside down.
00:30:19.000 But I think, you know, that's why what you're doing is actually really important because you're ensuring that there's a remnant at the very least.
00:30:27.000 Well, absolutely.
00:30:28.000 And I really do believe, you know, women are reading these books that are filled with kind of violent sex against women. 0.99
00:30:34.000 They're getting turned on by sadistic sex. 0.94
00:30:37.000 And I want them to be turned on by, you know, dominant love. 0.99
00:30:41.000 Yeah.
00:30:42.000 Get turned on by dominant love.
00:30:43.000 That's a good one liner.
00:30:45.000 For you, Andrew Clavin, everybody.
00:30:47.000 I don't want to get you and Dennis Prager in a room.
00:30:50.000 This could be dangerous.
00:30:53.000 You know, you have been in this space a long time.
00:30:57.000 We were just talking in the break about how when you started at Daily Wire, every word you uttered would be cancelable.
00:31:06.000 Now, you could say that in much, much more spicy things.
00:31:10.000 Yeah, we totally shifted.
00:31:11.000 And so the Overton window has completely expanded, and I think in a positive direction.
00:31:18.000 But we are also living in a time where you have a lot of bad actors, charlatans, frauds, grifters, con artists that have infiltrated the ranks.
00:31:30.000 And there's a lot of division.
00:31:35.000 Based on your perspective, having been one of the pioneers in sort of the right wing new media space, where are we at now?
00:31:43.000 A really good question.
00:31:45.000 You know, Claven's Law.
00:31:47.000 Here's Claven's Law a three part law.
00:31:49.000 Every reform movement in America gets taken over by the left.
00:31:53.000 And when it gets taken over by the left, its original intentions become the opposite of what they were.
00:31:58.000 So they put you in a position where you attack.
00:32:00.000 Them and they think you're attacking the original intention where really you're attacking leftism.
00:32:05.000 So, for just for instance, you start out with Martin Luther King saying, Don't judge a man by the color of his skin, judge him by the content of his character.
00:32:11.000 I'm in.
00:32:12.000 That's good Christian theology, good Americanism.
00:32:14.000 I'm there. 1.00
00:32:15.000 They take it over. 0.99
00:32:16.000 It's like, Don't hire white people, only hire black people. 1.00
00:32:19.000 You go, Wait, no, I'm against that. 0.99
00:32:20.000 And they say, Well, you're against Martin Luther King.
00:32:22.000 No, no, no, wait.
00:32:22.000 And the way every left wing cause ends up going, anything vaguely progressive ends up in the omni cause.
00:32:28.000 So, it's like the Sierra Club used to be critical of immigration because they said it would stress America's ecosystem.
00:32:34.000 And now, after 2020, the Sierra Club is just all in on open borders. 0.92
00:32:37.000 And it turns out the only thing that matters is do we have enough LGBT people outside?
00:32:42.000 And it's like the number one things are fighting racism and white supremacy.
00:32:45.000 You're not an environmental group anymore.
00:32:46.000 Well, exactly. 1.00
00:32:47.000 And feminism is the perfect example. 1.00
00:32:49.000 It starts out women should have human rights. 1.00
00:32:51.000 You go, absolutely, that's all American. 0.89
00:32:53.000 It ends up the family is awful. 0.89
00:32:55.000 If you want to take care of your children, you're nothing. 1.00
00:32:58.000 You stink. 1.00
00:32:59.000 And men are terrible. 1.00
00:33:00.000 And you can go and have sex with 15 people willingly and then call it rape. 1.00
00:33:04.000 And it's just all nonsense. 0.83
00:33:06.000 The right has to understand who they are and what they're about and what the target is so that we don't go past the target.
00:33:12.000 You know, you don't want to overshoot the target.
00:33:13.000 And for me, the target is always liberty.
00:33:15.000 It's always being able to say and pray and think what you want without somebody thinking that I got elected, I can tell you to shut up.
00:33:24.000 People have forgotten.
00:33:25.000 You know, listen, I've been alive since the Jurassic period, and the Biden administration was the largest assault on the First Amendment rights of Americans I've ever experienced.
00:33:37.000 What they always say the McCarthy era was.
00:33:40.000 They shut down churches.
00:33:41.000 They arrested people.
00:33:42.000 They tackled people for walking outside.
00:33:45.000 They threw people off social media for speaking the truth.
00:33:48.000 They told you, you know, the Daily Wire was almost destroyed.
00:33:51.000 I mean, we really had to fight back to not be thrown off Facebook and all the social media.
00:33:57.000 With the collusion of the government, which the Supreme Court has already said is against the Constitution, they colluded with the government and social media to say, you can't say these things.
00:34:07.000 We fought back.
00:34:08.000 We won.
00:34:11.000 This is what my show is going to be about this week.
00:34:13.000 I want to remind people what it meant when Trump got reelected, the uphill climb that was.
00:34:18.000 We couldn't have done it if Trump were not the indestructible human being that he is.
00:34:23.000 But still, he couldn't have done it either without this rebel media backing him up and exposing what the left was doing.
00:34:28.000 But now the rebel media is rebelling against itself and rebelling against President Trump in some ways.
00:34:34.000 And that is a luxury we have because we won.
00:34:36.000 And it's something we should really rise above.
00:34:39.000 Well, what you just said is powerful.
00:34:42.000 That rebel media, and we'll just call it that, it's as good a term as any rebel right wing media, that fought to exist in the first place, now they have the luxury to chip at each other and to complain and kvetch about gas prices or the Iran war, which, to be fair, we've kvetched about a little bit here too.
00:35:05.000 But the fact that they have that ability is a luxury that was so hard fought.
00:35:10.000 And it reminds me of one of, I think, one of the most powerful biblical stories.
00:35:15.000 Where Esau sells his birthright for a bowl of porridge.
00:35:19.000 And it's like, what are we giving up?
00:35:24.000 And what are we getting in return when we shoot inside the tent?
00:35:30.000 When we fray at the edges, where you've got Marjorie Taylor Greene, you've got Tucker Carlson, you've got who else do we got?
00:35:39.000 You've got, I guess, Joe Kent, you've got Thomas Massey, these people, James Fishback, they're trying to coalesce around sort of like a fringe offshoot, which, if you know the way American politics work, That will end in pure destruction.
00:35:54.000 You are handing the power over to the left.
00:35:55.000 There's no other opportunity.
00:35:57.000 If you're successful in getting in the ballot or creating enough disillusionment on the right, that's the only place that ends.
00:36:04.000 It's such a suicidal thing because the reason politics just endlessly feels higher stakes is that we have seen the left has increasingly gone in the direction of being a blow up America now button. 1.00
00:36:15.000 That they will openly say, like, we need to destroy the Constitution, destroy the Supreme Court, destroy the presidency, destroy America's borders, absolutely flood America with foreigners. 0.82
00:36:26.000 Race communism, actual communism. 0.89
00:36:29.000 They want to do all of these things. 0.93
00:36:30.000 It's very obvious they want to do that.
00:36:31.000 They loudly shout that they do it.
00:36:33.000 And then you have a faction of people, supposedly conservative, supposedly on the right, who say, yes, what we need to do is help these people win an election.
00:36:41.000 That's totally going to work out great for us.
00:36:43.000 And as you said before, it's like gas prices are high, so I'm going to vote to the.
00:36:46.000 All I'm going to say is Hassan Piker will criticize people on the left.
00:36:49.000 He's never, ever going to do a clip where he says, vote straight ticket Republican because that'll get what we want.
00:36:54.000 No.
00:36:54.000 He's trying to reform inside.
00:36:56.000 The party movement, the party structure.
00:36:58.000 He's trying to get DSA people, right?
00:36:59.000 Which is kind of what we did with MAGA.
00:37:02.000 MAGA was like, hey, we want politicians that are as conservative as their voters.
00:37:06.000 The place to express your grievances within the conservative movement is in primaries, it's in party conventions, it's in debates online or with your friends over what direction the party should take on issues.
00:37:20.000 We're having a lot of debates at Amfest.
00:37:21.000 Show up at Amfest and participate in those debates.
00:37:23.000 Some of those are going to be spicy.
00:37:24.000 In an actual election against the left as it currently is constituted, Your duty as an American is to not vote for them.
00:37:32.000 Your duty is to vote for the alternative because otherwise you're voting in favor of people who want to press the blow up America now button.
00:37:39.000 That's not acceptable.
00:37:40.000 And when you talk about the MAGA movement taking over the Republican Party, which it did, remember what the MAGA movement represents.
00:37:46.000 It's a centrist idea. 0.91
00:37:48.000 I mean, I know that Trump is an outlaw.
00:37:49.000 The 90s Democrats.
00:37:50.000 Yeah, it is.
00:37:51.000 I mean, I always say, when I listen to like a John F. Kennedy speech, that's pretty much everything I believe.
00:37:56.000 You know, stop the communists, cut taxes, you know, be strong, defend America.
00:38:00.000 That's not what.
00:38:01.000 Your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
00:38:04.000 What politician would say that today?
00:38:05.000 What even Trump will say.
00:38:07.000 Well, I mean, it's crazy.
00:38:08.000 Yeah.
00:38:08.000 I mean, there are some bad ideas that are even getting into the right.
00:38:11.000 I get that.
00:38:12.000 But right now, those ideas pale in comparison in their severity and their potential for destruction and, you know, malaise, violence, compared to what the left is offering.
00:38:26.000 Absolutely.
00:38:27.000 And openly offering, openly talking about.
00:38:29.000 And when I hear people weeping over, you know, Hamas and Iran and all this stuff.
00:38:34.000 I wanted that war over when it started.
00:38:34.000 I get it.
00:38:36.000 I said, as long as he ends it in time for the midterms, I'll be fine with it.
00:38:40.000 And he didn't, and he's taking his chance.
00:38:42.000 But if he wins that war, if he destroys that regime, he'll be one of the greatest presidents ever.
00:38:47.000 I agree.
00:38:48.000 I think he's been phenomenal in so many ways, and we forget it.
00:38:51.000 Andrew Clavin's book, Find Me Nowhere, find it on Amazon.
00:38:56.000 But you can find it in a lot of places, actually.
00:38:58.000 But the title is Find Me Nowhere.
00:39:00.000 God bless you, man.
00:39:01.000 Thanks very much.
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00:40:12.000 We have one of our fan favorites back.
00:40:16.000 I wouldn't say he's my favorite, though.
00:40:18.000 You see, he gives me too hard of a time sometimes.
00:40:22.000 Yeah, Mark, I know you.
00:40:23.000 Yeah.
00:40:24.000 Love Mark.
00:40:25.000 That is Mark Halperin.
00:40:26.000 No, I love Mark.
00:40:27.000 Love you.
00:40:27.000 We all love Mark.
00:40:28.000 How are you doing, man?
00:40:29.000 Good to see you.
00:40:30.000 Everything's good, busy, but always delighted to spend time with you fellas.
00:40:33.000 Thank you for asking.
00:40:34.000 Congratulations, by the way, on that JD interview.
00:40:38.000 You got to fly on the plane.
00:40:41.000 It was a good interview.
00:40:42.000 Very, very solid.
00:40:43.000 Thank you, sir.
00:40:43.000 Everything that we expect from you.
00:40:45.000 So we want to talk, Mark, about, yes, the midterms, But specifically, you had a take on this Alaska decoy Dan case, which now the DOJ is aggressively pursuing its investigation, potential criminal investigation on depriving voters of their rights.
00:41:03.000 It looks like what it is.
00:41:05.000 But the big bombshell yesterday was from the New York Times, which was, I think, added to the effect that the story had, certainly, because you don't necessarily expect the New York Times to come out with this.
00:41:18.000 But a scoop from Kellen Browning, who's a good reporter over there, I've worked with him in the past.
00:41:22.000 Was the one who broke it.
00:41:23.000 And basically, it connected Mary Peltola's campaign directly with the recruitment of this other Dan Sullivan, the decoy Dan.
00:41:33.000 And you believe this could have pretty powerful ramifications in that race.
00:41:40.000 The prediction markets only moved about 5%, but you were more forceful in your read of the events.
00:41:46.000 What do you think is going to happen and how is this going to play?
00:41:49.000 Well, I think I tweeted that almost 24 hours ago.
00:41:53.000 And After monitoring the Alaska media and the national media, I'm less confident it will have an impact on the race because it's not being framed the way I'm framing it.
00:42:09.000 There are dirty tricks in politics.
00:42:11.000 There's people who do this all the time.
00:42:13.000 They support somebody on the ballot, not because they really support them, but because they're trying to hurt the other side.
00:42:19.000 I find her and her campaign lying about it, not just before the New York Times story and not just in the New York Times story.
00:42:26.000 But even today, even yesterday, they're still lying about their role.
00:42:30.000 When the New York Times reporter, it's not, she said, she said.
00:42:34.000 They've got the receipts, they have the text chains.
00:42:37.000 So I thought that people would frame it that way and they'd say, Come on, Congresswoman Mary Patel, you're not telling the truth.
00:42:46.000 Like, come clean on what you did, explain your lies and explain why you did this.
00:42:51.000 It appears now that she's taking a page out of the Republican handbook.
00:42:55.000 She's saying, Oh, you can't trust the New York Times.
00:42:57.000 They're just doing this for clicks and subscriptions.
00:43:00.000 So I think that the impact on the race will probably be minimal.
00:43:03.000 And I think, I think at a minimum, though, for Dan Sullivan, the real one, I think people in Alaska will be more aware now about who the real one is and the fact that there are two.
00:43:13.000 But I don't think at this hour it's going to revolutionize the race the way I thought it might yesterday. 0.98
00:43:17.000 I mean, that's unfortunate because, but it gets that part of the article where one of the things they got is text chains emails where they're joking after a focus group, like, oh, I bet, you know, these kind of these idiots will fall for our little game that we're coming up with. 0.97
00:43:33.000 It seems like that's their strategy now. 0.99
00:43:35.000 That if they lie through their teeth, these dumb cattle that we thought would fall for fake Dan Sullivan will also fall for what we're saying now. 0.99
00:43:43.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:43:44.000 The cynicism of the campaign feeling like they can just dupe dumb people and the cynicism of lying brazenly, repeatedly, that that wouldn't have a more dramatic effect on the outcome of this race is pretty depressing.
00:44:03.000 If you're right, if you're right, I.
00:44:05.000 I hope that you are more right 24 hours ago than you are today.
00:44:09.000 But it's very depressing that you could just brazenly lie like that so many times and get away with it.
00:44:16.000 Yeah.
00:44:16.000 Yeah.
00:44:17.000 You know, look, when Republicans and other Democrats do this stuff, they don't leave a paper trail and they just don't answer the reporters' questions.
00:44:25.000 And people may say, well, that's no better.
00:44:26.000 But to have someone who wants to be United States Senator just continue to brazenly lie when she's been caught, I find it troubling.
00:44:34.000 But unfortunately, You know, most of the media coverage before all this, we shouldn't have needed the New York Times story to know what a fraud this was.
00:44:41.000 But most of the coverage is still, oh, how weird it is.
00:44:43.000 And, you know, President Trump's upset.
00:44:46.000 It takes a lot for Lisa Murkowski to speak out on Donald Trump's behalf.
00:44:49.000 But she's upset by this. 0.69
00:44:51.000 The governor's upset by it.
00:44:53.000 The story is rock solid.
00:44:56.000 And the denials are hilarious.
00:44:58.000 The guy in the story, who was involved, one of the many people involved in the conspiracy, who said his name showed up on documents, even though he wasn't involved in the effort.
00:45:06.000 Because of auto, whatever he said, it's one of my favorite auto, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.
00:45:12.000 Anyway, I think that, um, that uh, the Alaska media really is kind of cemented my view that this isn't going to have a big effect, even though yesterday again I thought it could cost her the race, you know, by itself.
00:45:26.000 The Alaska press is pretty minimal and it's pretty much she said, she said, it's not focused on her lying about it.
00:45:32.000 Well, I do think you're right about the other point that you were making, which is that this does bring more attention to the fact there's two Dan Sullivans because.
00:45:40.000 You got to believe there's going to be people going into that ballot box that somehow they've been living under a rock, especially in Alaska.
00:45:45.000 There's so many people who just don't know what's going on.
00:45:48.000 And they'll just go in there and get confused, won't look for an R next to one of them, and they could vote for the wrong Dan Sullivan.
00:45:55.000 You know what I thought was interesting, though, is that actually Dan Sullivan himself put out sort of like, hey, if you're going to do ranked choice voting, you can rank him after me, but just don't rank Mary Peltola.
00:46:07.000 So it's very interesting the way the Alaskan system works, anyways, which I think is confusing for voters.
00:46:14.000 Actually, a really unfortunate system.
00:46:18.000 I think it's the ranked choice voting, everybody should reject it.
00:46:20.000 It's terrible.
00:46:21.000 Charlie hated it.
00:46:22.000 It's a way to weed out MAGA candidates, actually.
00:46:22.000 I hate it.
00:46:25.000 They're trying to get rid of the MAGAs. 0.60
00:46:26.000 But, anyways, Mark, so that's your take on Alaska.
00:46:32.000 Do you see any, we're conservatives, very proud of that.
00:46:36.000 Do you see any bright lights, any white pills in any of the races? 1.00
00:46:40.000 Because I'm not going to let you black pill us here, Mark. 0.99
00:46:43.000 What about Michigan? 1.00
00:46:44.000 What about?
00:46:45.000 I'm not rooting for the Democrats.
00:46:48.000 I'm not predicting the Democrats will have a blue tsunami as big as Connecticut.
00:46:52.000 But if you listen to my Republican sources, there's almost a 50% chance that this is a wipeout.
00:46:56.000 It might not be.
00:46:57.000 You might see a lot of races where Democrats do way better than they did two years ago in red states and red districts and fall just short.
00:47:04.000 But it's getting close to 50% chance that this is a wipeout.
00:47:07.000 Based on talking to folks in the Republican side about their private polling data and what they're seeing in the races, there's not one race, with the possible exception of Iowa, in the contested Senate races that I would say Republicans are feeling better about this week than last week.
00:47:26.000 I mean, that.
00:47:28.000 And I'll just cut to the chase right now.
00:47:30.000 I think.
00:47:31.000 Pretty close to done for the Democrats are three of the four they need, assuming they don't lose Michigan.
00:47:37.000 I think Ohio, Kansas, and North Carolina are pretty close to done for the Democrats.
00:47:42.000 And that means Republicans would only, or Democrats would only need to win one, assuming they win Michigan, of Maine, Iowa, Texas, Nebraska, and Alaska.
00:47:53.000 You think Kansas is done?
00:47:54.000 A race was not getting done about two months ago.
00:47:57.000 I don't know if you guys heard.
00:47:58.000 The president was supposed to go to Kansas on Saturday and he just canceled.
00:48:02.000 And I think, I think no one's told me this, but I think probably he's heard what I've heard, which for about 10 days, the numbers have just not been there for the Republicans.
00:48:11.000 What's animating that race like that?
00:48:14.000 Well, that one's got a particular circumstance, which is Senator Marshall was told by his colleagues, get in gear, you could have a race, and he just didn't.
00:48:21.000 Didn't hire staff, didn't raise money, didn't develop a plan to beat a very skilled Democratic candidate.
00:48:31.000 And He's just getting killed on the air.
00:48:34.000 He's getting killed in the air and media.
00:48:36.000 And he's become, you know, for Kansas voters, the embodiment of all the things Republicans are up against the war, the high prices, the tariffs, the corruption, the buck raking, and the ballroom.
00:48:50.000 The ballroom.
00:48:51.000 And healthcare.
00:48:52.000 Healthcare, he's had a special problem on healthcare because he's a doctor.
00:48:57.000 And the Democrats' opposition researchers did a great job of getting the New York Times to run this story about how Dr. Marshall's patients were.
00:49:04.000 Chased down to pay their unpaid bills and turned him into a bad guy.
00:49:08.000 And they've dined out on that for weeks on the Democrat side.
00:49:12.000 Also, the diesel prices in a place like Kansas, right?
00:49:15.000 Yeah.
00:49:16.000 Nebraska, Kansas, Ohio.
00:49:16.000 It's huge.
00:49:19.000 It's massive.
00:49:19.000 Massive.
00:49:20.000 Yeah.
00:49:21.000 Yeah.
00:49:22.000 The whole corn belt in terms of diesel prices, gas prices, the war, and the tariffs is just a very uphill fight.
00:49:29.000 And this is a guy who didn't expect to have a race.
00:49:32.000 If there is a wipeout, you're going to see some House candidates in the same position.
00:49:35.000 So.
00:49:35.000 All right.
00:49:37.000 Mark, I'm going to challenge some of the assumptions here.
00:49:39.000 All right.
00:49:40.000 First, I'm going to play you a clip from Ari Fleischer.
00:49:43.000 And then I'm going to play you a clip from Speaker Johnson.
00:49:47.000 SOT 13.
00:49:48.000 Actually, I have good news for if you're a Republican about what's happening in Michigan.
00:49:52.000 I am working on that race, and I can report right now.
00:49:54.000 The early voting numbers are very good for Rogers.
00:49:58.000 21% increase in Democrat turnout in counties won by Kamala Harris in early voting, 27% increase in For Mike Rogers.
00:50:09.000 So, Republicans in Michigan are fired up or turning out earlier in greater numbers than the Democrats actually in the Trump counties.
00:50:15.000 If Donald Trump were not on the stump, if he wasn't campaigning the way he is, think about what Republican turnout would be.
00:50:21.000 He's making an impact in these states.
00:50:23.000 All right.
00:50:23.000 That's clip one.
00:50:25.000 Speaker Johnson said.
00:50:25.000 Clip two.
00:50:28.000 What's that?
00:50:29.000 I agree with everything already said.
00:50:31.000 But I'll play this right here.
00:50:31.000 Okay.
00:50:31.000 All right.
00:50:33.000 Stop 14.
00:50:34.000 And people are looking at record over rhetoric.
00:50:36.000 I am absolutely convinced.
00:50:38.000 Huge crowds all over the country, from New York to California, from Alaska with Nick Beggett running for the house up there, all the way to South Florida.
00:50:45.000 We have gigantic crowds, big excitement.
00:50:47.000 It feels just like 2024 to me.
00:50:49.000 And I'm telling you, the polls are going to be historically wrong in this midterm election.
00:50:53.000 All right, your reaction, Mark.
00:50:55.000 I mean, I know it's popular to rail against the public polls, but I'm not basing what I'm telling you is thought to be likely to happen on public polls.
00:51:06.000 I'm basing it on private polls, and in this case, mostly largely Republican private polls.
00:51:11.000 So I think if the speaker were being honest, I mean, no disrespect to him.
00:51:15.000 He wouldn't say that because I think his private polls aren't great either.
00:51:19.000 So you think he's trying to keep morale up?
00:51:22.000 He's trying to increase.
00:51:25.000 Turnout, right?
00:51:26.000 I mean, do you think there is a possibility, though, with maybe some of the turnout models are wrong, some of the weighting in some of these polls are off?
00:51:36.000 For example, in Arizona, we were projecting, and listen, things could change in the last couple days here, but most of the polling had a projection of 15 to 18% under 30 vote.
00:51:50.000 Right now, I think it's at about 6.4% of the vote.
00:51:54.000 So that changes a lot of the projections, right?
00:51:57.000 We know that we've lost ground with younger voters, but so those.
00:51:59.000 Those types of anomalies or phenomenons could change the way this thing works out.
00:52:06.000 If you're not right about who's going to vote, the poll's meaningless.
00:52:09.000 If you think the electorate's going to be 20% black voters and it's 40% black voters, your poll's meaningless. 0.51
00:52:15.000 And this is a very unpredictable election regarding Democrats, independents, and Republicans, the three sizes voters come in.
00:52:22.000 Very unpredictable who's going to vote.
00:52:24.000 What we do know is even though polls historically have often underestimated Republicans, and that's just a fact, they might be underestimating Democrats this time, might be.
00:52:33.000 Is a very unsettled thing.
00:52:34.000 That's why I tell people don't live or die for the next five days by the polls.
00:52:38.000 You'd be making a mistake to stake whether you vote or not on the polls or how you're feeling about things on the polls.
00:52:44.000 Because the public polls are not usually all very good.
00:52:47.000 They're not usually that high quality.
00:52:49.000 I'm basing what I know on the analytics and the polling of private folks who spend way more on these things and have a higher stake than a CBS News or NBC News press release.
00:53:00.000 So, Mark, obviously, You've laid out what you think will happen, but let's say we get.
00:53:06.000 No, I didn't.
00:53:07.000 I didn't.
00:53:07.000 I didn't.
00:53:08.000 I had to correct you.
00:53:09.000 I laid out what the preponderance of my sources believe will happen.
00:53:12.000 Fair enough.
00:53:13.000 Fair enough.
00:53:13.000 Well, so let's say we get to Tuesday night and we get what Andrew and I are hoping for.
00:53:18.000 We get a surprisingly good night for Republicans.
00:53:21.000 Don't lose the Senate.
00:53:22.000 Win some of those races.
00:53:23.000 Maybe we hang on in Kansas where you think it's gone.
00:53:26.000 Yeah.
00:53:26.000 What's the narrative?
00:53:28.000 What do you think will be the surprises within the electorate, within public sentiment that made that come to pass?
00:53:36.000 That the president's trips around the country really turned out the base and appealed to some independent voters.
00:53:42.000 That Democrats were reliant on people like young men, Hispanic voters, and irregular voters to turn out.
00:53:50.000 And that the Republicans had just enough margin for a state that's plus 10 Trump or a congressional district that's plus 15 Trump, where they gave a lot of ground and they lost a lot.
00:54:02.000 But it doesn't matter where you win a district or a state by 15 or two, you still get to take the seat.
00:54:07.000 And so the Democrats will have.
00:54:09.000 Done surprisingly well compared to two and four years ago, but not well enough to win in these very red places.
00:54:15.000 Mark, oh, go ahead.
00:54:16.000 So, a follow up on that.
00:54:17.000 So, let's say we get a result like that, which technically would be a big gain for Democrats.
00:54:21.000 They might flip the House, they might get these, but it's less than they expected.
00:54:25.000 What then do you think would be the reactions of the parties?
00:54:28.000 Would it still the spin end up being Republicans have lost ground?
00:54:31.000 They just haven't lost it all the way?
00:54:33.000 Or will there be some element that Democrats badly dropped the ball and need new strategies?
00:54:38.000 If Democrats narrowly take the House and fail to take the Senate, There'll be a lot of questions, depending on which races they lose.
00:54:45.000 There'll be a lot of questions within the party about what kind of candidates they should be nominating.
00:54:50.000 And there'll be a lot of questions about whether they should have had more of a message that they didn't really run on anything except not Trump.
00:54:58.000 What happens to AOC's future or the far left of the party writ large if guys like El Syed win in Michigan?
00:55:09.000 I think his winning in Michigan would transform the party's debate about what kind of party they are.
00:55:14.000 And I think if she chooses to run for president, it would help her.
00:55:17.000 But I think he's more likely to run for president than she is.
00:55:21.000 Interesting.
00:55:22.000 You think he's going to go pull the full Obama.
00:55:25.000 So it's not even just emulating his intonation and his ways of speaking, but he's going to do two, you know, gets elected in 06 and then runs in 08.
00:55:34.000 The socialists need a candidate.
00:55:36.000 And everybody says Bernie's too old to run and she's too vulnerable on a range of issues and I don't think personally wants to run.
00:55:42.000 And I don't think they think Ro Khan is the answer.
00:55:44.000 So if you believe that the socialists need a candidate, I don't know who would be more likely than him at this point.
00:55:50.000 That's an interesting take.
00:55:52.000 I think that's important, you know, and.
00:55:54.000 I'm a firm believer that, listen, if you're listening out there and you're frustrated with President Trump, I think it's really important to look at the future if you don't show up and vote.
00:56:07.000 What the left will bring to bear if you don't show up and vote.
00:56:10.000 They're on college campuses mocking Charlie's assassination every day.
00:56:15.000 Mark Halperin, everybody check him out.
00:56:18.000 We'll see you after the election.
00:56:20.000 I'm so glad to have spent this time with you.
00:56:22.000 See you soon.
00:56:23.000 Thank you.
00:56:24.000 Thank you, Mark.
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00:57:27.000 We have a very, very special treat in store for you to end out the hour here, and that is Brian Kilmead.
00:57:34.000 You might know him from Fox and Friends.
00:57:36.000 You might know him from The Brian Kilmeade Show.
00:57:38.000 You might know him from He's got a weekend show.
00:57:41.000 He did What Made America Great?
00:57:43.000 Is that on Fox Nation still?
00:57:45.000 Yeah, Fox Nation.
00:57:46.000 I think he is the hardest working host in all of broadcast media.
00:57:52.000 I think that's got to be true.
00:57:53.000 And he'll fill in for the other hosts.
00:57:55.000 He's probably hosted every single show on Fox at this point.
00:57:58.000 It's true.
00:57:59.000 It's true.
00:58:00.000 Brian Kilmeade's got a new book out called Uniting the States Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Miracle.
00:58:06.000 Everybody should check it out.
00:58:08.000 Brian, welcome back to the show, my friend.
00:58:10.000 It's good to see you.
00:58:11.000 Same.
00:58:12.000 I'm a big fan.
00:58:13.000 Thanks for saying those nice words, but I'm so glad what you guys are able to do and keep going.
00:58:17.000 It's been fantastic.
00:58:18.000 So glad to be a part of it.
00:58:20.000 Thank you.
00:58:21.000 Thank you.
00:58:21.000 Thank you.
00:58:22.000 Okay.
00:58:22.000 So, your book.
00:58:23.000 So, on top of all your other hosting duties, first, everybody wants to know this, Brian.
00:58:27.000 What time do you wake up every morning for Fox and Friends?
00:58:31.000 220.
00:58:33.000 220.
00:58:34.000 On the very specific number.
00:58:35.000 Like you must, And you've been doing it long enough, you must have really zeroed in on the time.
00:58:39.000 Wait, are you on Eastern time?
00:58:40.000 So, are you waking up like after I go to sleep?
00:58:43.000 Yes.
00:58:43.000 Oh, man.
00:58:44.000 Yeah, I haven't had a late night in a long time.
00:58:46.000 Even when I go out on weekends, I don't really adjust too well.
00:58:49.000 So, I'm not, yeah, those days are going past midnight.
00:58:52.000 Unless Sean Hannity marries Ainsley, I'm not staying up too late.
00:58:55.000 And that's probably not going to, they're not going to get married again.
00:58:58.000 Yeah, I would hope not.
00:58:59.000 And I, you know, but congratulations to them, by the way, which is, it's a very beautiful couple there.
00:59:04.000 All right.
00:59:04.000 So, uniting the states, you picked six crucial moments that forged the American miracle.
00:59:10.000 First of all, why do you call it a miracle?
00:59:13.000 And then I want to get into some of your six moments.
00:59:15.000 Out of all the interviews I've done, Andrew, you're the only one to ever ask me that.
00:59:19.000 And that is because none of it makes sense.
00:59:21.000 I mean, like the way it became a country, the way we were challenged, the resourcefulness and resilience that we've experienced, and some mystical things that have happened.
00:59:29.000 And I think I might have talked to you about this when we were doing George Washington's Secret Six.
00:59:33.000 It's a while ago.
00:59:35.000 But, you know, when Washington's in the Battle of New York, he gets backed up in Brooklyn, and they still got this little memorial for the Battle of Brooklyn, which we got just hammered in.
00:59:45.000 We almost lost our entire army.
00:59:47.000 And Washington has to decide at night, he's like, listen, we're about to get up in the morning, and we're not going to be able to face this army.
00:59:54.000 I got to get out.
00:59:55.000 So he calls for civilian ships and everybody to come and barges show up.
00:59:59.000 And then it becomes the water becomes so choppy, they're barely ever getting anybody out until like 10 30 at night.
01:00:06.000 So by the time the sun's about to come up, we still have another thousand or two thousand soldiers to get out.
01:00:12.000 And out of nowhere, a fog rolls in so thick you could not see the fingers on your outstretched hand.
01:00:18.000 How do I know that?
01:00:19.000 The exact words of Benjamin Talmadge, who wrote his own biography in 1820, 76 pages.
01:00:26.000 Talking about what exactly happened.
01:00:28.000 They never figured out where that five came through.
01:00:30.000 But if the British knew that we were trying to evacuate, they would have just tried to wipe out the whole army.
01:00:35.000 There's no way the British thought we were going to leave.
01:00:38.000 So Washington made this daring move and he got weather to work for him.
01:00:42.000 How did that happen? 0.51
01:00:43.000 How did it happen that in the War of 1812, when 1814 comes up and they cut through our militia like paper mache and burn Washington to the ground and British don't plan on leaving our capital? 0.55
01:00:56.000 Out of nowhere, a tornado rolls through Washington and blows them right out of the Capitol, something our army couldn't do.
01:01:04.000 So that, and then you have the miracle of New Orleans, where a 41 year old self trained general, Andrew Jackson, sets up at the perfect place to block the British from getting to New Orleans.
01:01:19.000 He just took an educated guess and he just built a wall, dug a canal, and he said, if the British try to get here, they're going to have to scale this wall and the canal.
01:01:29.000 But if the British landed about You know, about a thousand yards separately, they would have been able to get around it.
01:01:35.000 But they landed at the exact same place to allow their entire army to be basically wiped out in 45 minutes.
01:01:42.000 They just defeated Napoleon's Invincibles.
01:01:45.000 So many times things happened that would stop us in our tracks, and it just didn't happen.
01:01:50.000 And we come out bigger and stronger afterwards.
01:01:54.000 So you've got six miracles in there.
01:01:57.000 I love that answer, by the way.
01:01:59.000 And what's going through my mind, Brian, as you're talking about this, is the fact that.
01:02:04.000 This is why the midterms matter because we are defending something so precious, so miraculous.
01:02:11.000 The providential hand of God has had to have been on this nation from its founding.
01:02:16.000 You don't get here and you don't become America without all of these miracles stacking one on top of the other.
01:02:22.000 But what, and we'll get into the midterms with you because I know you got a lot of thoughts about that as well, Brian.
01:02:27.000 But what about something in the 20th century or the 21st century?
01:02:31.000 You touch on those as well.
01:02:33.000 I do.
01:02:34.000 And basically, it's the Boston Massacre.
01:02:36.000 And we established law and order and justice in that.
01:02:39.000 It's not that Paul Revere came up with a plaque that pressed into every newspaper, silversmith, that sold it as a massacre.
01:02:46.000 It really wasn't a massacre.
01:02:48.000 It was an unfortunate incident.
01:02:49.000 It was a riot that broke out, and they were unable to figure out who was wrong.
01:02:53.000 And then I talked about George Washington changing the way he fights.
01:02:55.000 He never fought like that before.
01:02:57.000 He decides the longer this goes on and we don't lose, the closer we'll get to winning.
01:03:02.000 Louisiana Purchase.
01:03:04.000 I mean, if there wasn't a slave rebellion right in the Caribbean at the right exact time, if there wasn't a sense that the British were going to fight and try to do a preemptive attack on France to stop Napoleon, if he didn't have these crazy designs in Austria and Russia, He would never have sold us anything. 0.57
01:03:23.000 In fact, we were willing to fight to get them out of New Orleans because we needed the mouth of the Mississippi because it was like the Strait of Ramuse for us.
01:03:31.000 And we just said, Jefferson just says, listen, we need this.
01:03:34.000 He tries for 18 months to buy it.
01:03:35.000 They don't budge, but everything calls into place.
01:03:39.000 Suddenly, out of nowhere, Napoleon needs money.
01:03:42.000 And then he goes, listen, I want to be done with the colonies.
01:03:45.000 I can't have any assets.
01:03:47.000 I want all my assets in Europe.
01:03:48.000 So we lost thousands of men in a slave rebellion.
01:03:52.000 In two separate islands.
01:03:53.000 And then we're going to have to have thousands of men in our Navy back to fight the British again.
01:03:58.000 So when James Monroe shows up there with $4 million in loans, they basically say, listen, he expects the fight of his life.
01:04:07.000 Instead, he gets the deal of a century.
01:04:10.000 They say, take it.
01:04:10.000 But here's the thing you got to take everything.
01:04:14.000 So suddenly, without firing a shot, we double the size of the country.
01:04:17.000 Now, there was a whole group of people like Alexander Hamilton who said, I want America to be small like Denmark or Holland.
01:04:23.000 I don't want a big country.
01:04:25.000 And then Jefferson, like, no, no, I want a big country.
01:04:27.000 And Watson at the time was always spoken about, no, no, we got to move west.
01:04:32.000 But there was a lot of people who wanted no part of moving west, thought it was too dangerous and it would devalue our property.
01:04:37.000 Well, thank goodness we had Jefferson as president, nothing against Hamilton, but we need the expansion as president.
01:04:44.000 And my goodness, the fortuitous nature of the negotiations, it's all about timing.
01:04:49.000 And America became an ability.
01:04:51.000 Now we have the ability to accept thousands of more people who just wanted a shot at freedom and reaching a potential.
01:04:58.000 It's, I mean, it's just one of the greatest things in world history that this big, rich American continent is controlled by a British descended country with its success. 0.88
01:05:11.000 Like, if we just left it to Spain, the world would be vastly worse off. 0.61
01:05:15.000 If we left it to France, the world would be worse off.
01:05:17.000 But I wanted to ask another one of the six that really intrigues me looking at the list Daniel Shays.
01:05:23.000 That's not a name you usually hear as an important figure in the American founding in a positive way.
01:05:30.000 And at least I'm going off the.
01:05:32.000 Sort of summary here, but you describe him as the man who loses everything to stand up for the little man and inspires the Constitutional Convention.
01:05:39.000 Why did Daniel Shays get in this book as one of the key six?
01:05:44.000 So, Blake, you mentioned before I do the series, What Makes America Great.
01:05:47.000 I'm up to 72 now.
01:05:48.000 I got a brand new season coming out, I think in December.
01:05:51.000 And what I do is when I go out with these people, I used to be so into sports where you go out, you talk to the coaches, you get to be managers, you get to get insight.
01:06:00.000 And that ship has sailed.
01:06:02.000 And even news.
01:06:03.000 I get to tell you, I see Witkoff at an event, you see Governor DeSantis at an event.
01:06:07.000 I just, I don't really go to small talk.
01:06:10.000 What's going on?
01:06:10.000 What are you going to be doing next?
01:06:11.000 What's happening?
01:06:13.000 With these historians, they are so open to questions, to people that care.
01:06:18.000 They study their whole life.
01:06:19.000 Mostly they're quiet men and women.
01:06:22.000 And when I come to these libraries, when I go to John Quincy Adams' house, John Adams' house, and I know these people live every day to bring a handful of people through this house, I talk to them about what's important.
01:06:34.000 So I read about Shay's rebellion, how it led to the Constitution.
01:06:39.000 And I'm like, how did that happen?
01:06:40.000 Well, I met the guy that wrote the book that found the quote that James Madison said Daniel Shays' little rebellion did more to lead us to a constitution than any other single event.
01:06:53.000 And why?
01:06:54.000 Because we needed our rock star to attend the Constitutional Convention.
01:06:58.000 Who was that, Andrew?
01:06:59.000 It's George Washington.
01:07:01.000 George Washington, yeah.
01:07:02.000 He was not, he's like, I'm done.
01:07:04.000 Hey, I've got you the war.
01:07:06.000 Now you have your country.
01:07:08.000 I'm buried in debt here.
01:07:09.000 I got to fix Mount Vernon.
01:07:11.000 I want to go back to Virginia.
01:07:12.000 Yeah.
01:07:13.000 Yeah.
01:07:14.000 So, when he finds out that he knows all our colonies acting like 13 separate countries, they did want to help anybody out.
01:07:21.000 Leave me alone.
01:07:22.000 I don't want to start drawing central government.
01:07:24.000 The last thing I want is another king.
01:07:26.000 But when he saw that Daniel Shays, a war hero that Lafayette gave a sword to, started as an ensign, ended up as a captain because of the way he fought and the fearlessness and way he led, he said, Listen, I never saw anybody fight like you.
01:07:39.000 Take my sword.
01:07:40.000 I want everyone to know that comes into your house in the future what a great man you are.
01:07:45.000 And when Washington hears that this great man was so fed up and so frustrated with the lack of representation when it came to taxes and demands, that they were jailing farmers and putting them in debtor's prison without any voice or without any court case.
01:07:58.000 And he finally formed a group of regulators along with another guy named Wheeler.
01:08:03.000 And they decide to block the courthouse.
01:08:05.000 And they just say, no one's getting arrested.
01:08:08.000 We're not going on trial until we understand that farmers don't have cash, we have crops.
01:08:14.000 And every time we have a bad season, we can't pay it.
01:08:17.000 But they understand in two years we'll make up for it.
01:08:19.000 But instead, you're putting us in jail for your new rules, which we had nothing to do with.
01:08:24.000 But they, at first, they gave in.
01:08:26.000 The next time, Henry Knox, of all people, our first secretary of war, put together a militia, first shot over his head, then shot for their heads.
01:08:34.000 Two die, two get hanged.
01:08:36.000 And they broke these guys up.
01:08:37.000 And they told Daniel Shays, I don't care what you did for the country, you're banished.
01:08:42.000 And they basically had to take his family and go to Vermont, which is akin to Vermont back then.
01:08:47.000 And he was never.
01:08:49.000 Looked at as a war hero, but it shook Washington to the point when Madison and Knox came to see him and he said, basically, All right, let's do this.
01:08:56.000 We got to write a constitution.
01:08:58.000 We got to do the Federalist Papers.
01:08:59.000 We got to sell it to all 13 colonies.
01:09:01.000 But they knew they couldn't get out of the blocks without Washington.
01:09:05.000 So that's a really interesting history that most Americans don't know anything about, by the way.
01:09:11.000 And that's fantastic.
01:09:13.000 So you got six.
01:09:15.000 So I kind of alluded to this question before.
01:09:18.000 I know it's not in your book, but if you had to give an honorary mention, a seventh, That came in the 20th or 21st century.
01:09:26.000 Does something come to mind?
01:09:28.000 In the 20th century, I would say if you told me in the 19th century, I'd say Gettysburg.
01:09:33.000 I almost thought, but it was too obvious.
01:09:35.000 And I feel like there's movies about it, documentaries about it.
01:09:37.000 No, it's good though.
01:09:38.000 There's a reason for that.
01:09:39.000 But because we lost, I mean, the South just gets momentum.
01:09:43.000 They're in the North.
01:09:44.000 They win this battle.
01:09:44.000 They're not going to quit.
01:09:46.000 And then maybe England recognizes the South as a separate country. 0.96
01:09:50.000 Then we're really screwed.
01:09:51.000 I'm going to give you a minute to think about this, Brian. 0.68
01:09:53.000 I have it.
01:09:54.000 Okay, okay.
01:09:55.000 The floor is yours.
01:09:56.000 Yeah, and here it is, but for a different reason.
01:10:00.000 I think Pearl Harbor, because we weren't going to get in that war.
01:10:03.000 If you read FDR and you read about this stuff, I'm not an FDR expert, but I read about what buildup.
01:10:08.000 We could not convince this country to get into the war, but he knew we absolutely had to get into that war.
01:10:14.000 And I don't want to focus on the amount of people who lost their lives violently, the way they fought back that day, the amount of ships that got sunk, but we needed something titanic to hit us in order to get in the war to change the world and save the free world.
01:10:28.000 Literally, the free world was in the balance.
01:10:30.000 FDR, with all its power, literally with all its power in the Congress and the Senate, couldn't do it. 0.56
01:10:36.000 We were trying to lend lease England and had them fight for themselves, but it wasn't so Japan bombed us. 0.61
01:10:43.000 And then we said, while we're at it, we're declaring war on Germany.
01:10:46.000 And even Hitler said, What did you do?
01:10:48.000 We had this thing.
01:10:49.000 And then we were able to get into the war.
01:10:51.000 So I think that moment, but for a different reason, it got us into the war to allow us to be the free country we are today.
01:10:59.000 And honestly, I thought of the same words.
01:11:02.000 I thought of the same words.
01:11:03.000 I think if I had to add one, I would actually say Washington stepping down after two terms in the way that he did.
01:11:08.000 I think that mattered.
01:11:09.000 That's.
01:11:11.000 I was thinking in the original 18th century.
01:11:13.000 Early years.
01:11:14.000 But 20th century one?
01:11:15.000 I don't know.
01:11:16.000 20th century, sadly, is mostly a story of us dividing as states more and more.
01:11:20.000 Wow, that's not true.
01:11:21.000 I mean, we landed on Pearl Harbor.
01:11:24.000 I actually think Eisenhower uniting the country with the freeway system was a big one.
01:11:29.000 Not a bad one.
01:11:30.000 The Battle of Midway also comes to mind.
01:11:32.000 Anyways, I just love talking with historians about things that they think about and what was really crucial.
01:11:39.000 But yours is a good one.
01:11:41.000 So, Brian, and by the way, everybody, go get a copy of Uniting the States, Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Miracle.
01:11:49.000 I don't know how you find time for it all, Brian.
01:11:52.000 I really, really don't.
01:11:53.000 And if you watch what you do on Fox and Friends and how knowledgeable you are, you mentioned how you get straight to the meat of it and you always kind of know where the controversy is or where the key question is.
01:12:04.000 I don't know how you have time for all of it.
01:12:06.000 So kudos to you, my friend.
01:12:10.000 You know, like I said in segment one, all of this talk about.
01:12:13.000 How America is a miracle that we exist in the way we do and our success.
01:12:18.000 It helps you understand the stakes of every election.
01:12:21.000 And unfortunately, each election becomes more existential because part of the country, I think, genuinely hates this country.
01:12:28.000 They want to replace our institutions, replace our values.
01:12:32.000 And so it becomes more and more existential.
01:12:35.000 When you're looking at this midterms, what stands out to you?
01:12:39.000 You're a historian, you've been doing this for a long time.
01:12:41.000 What's different about it?
01:12:42.000 What are you paying attention to right now?
01:12:44.000 What do you think are the main storylines and the main things you're watching for?
01:12:48.000 Okay, here's the thing.
01:12:50.000 If Republicans lose the House, what's the margin?
01:12:54.000 And if the margin is small, you got about five true blue socialists who don't like the country, you know, hate Israel, hate Israel, who will have leverage.
01:13:05.000 You know, Kevin McCarthy had a hard time.
01:13:06.000 He ended up losing his job because Matt Gaetz and company wanted to get him out.
01:13:10.000 And Speaker Johnson didn't get a lot done, had all types of hellacious votes, and maybe could have done more, but he has such a small agenda, and certain people were, it was almost impossible to get.
01:13:23.000 Everyone on the same page.
01:13:24.000 Now, these guys, Akeem Jeffries, has said he's not for Medicare for all.
01:13:29.000 He's not for disbanding the police.
01:13:32.000 He's not for disbanding the Senate.
01:13:34.000 So these guys are.
01:13:36.000 You know, these guys want to get rid of billionaires.
01:13:39.000 They want a wealth tax.
01:13:41.000 So they're going to, they want Medicare for all, which is unaffordable.
01:13:45.000 Anyone who says Medicare for all is not even being serious.
01:13:47.000 So they're going to do all these things.
01:13:49.000 They're going to look to freeze rents.
01:13:50.000 They're going to lose to nationalized industries.
01:13:53.000 They're going to try to take Elon Musk's. Businesses away and nationalize them, believe me.
01:13:57.000 So that's what I'm looking forward to seeing.
01:14:00.000 If the five layups, because they don't have any primaries, the new block, they call themselves the block.
01:14:09.000 If Hakeem Jeffries has a small advantage and it's no longer Speaker Johnson, he's going to be a hostage.
01:14:16.000 No doubt about it.
01:14:17.000 And I think we're all going to be screwed because of it, unless Republicans decide to jump on his side.
01:14:21.000 Democrats never helped out Kevin McCarthy or Speaker Johnson, nobody did.
01:14:26.000 Maybe golden one time over in Maine.
01:14:29.000 So I'm going to look for that. 0.83
01:14:30.000 The other thing is El Said. 0.94
01:14:33.000 Not only do Republicans need to flip that seat if they want to keep their majority, I think, but if the people of Michigan, who this is not Washington state, this is not California, if the people of Michigan, who Donald Trump won that state twice and almost won it three times, if they think that El Said best represents them, who doesn't like Jewish people, hates Israel, the black community he has no interest in,
01:15:01.000 and he has Haley Stevens, the one he beat by one point, say, up.
01:15:06.000 I don't know who I'm going to vote for.
01:15:07.000 I'm on the team who lost two Democratic, Michigan Democratic strategists who got Whitmer elected.
01:15:14.000 If he wins, losing all this foundational support, I think we're in a lot of trouble, especially because he's got a solid candidate against him.
01:15:23.000 I'm not asking you to vote for a guy that's terrible.
01:15:26.000 I mean, you've got a real experienced guy, Mike Rogers.
01:15:29.000 Mike's campaigned great.
01:15:31.000 He's campaigned great.
01:15:32.000 Yeah, I mean, this could be one of those weird electoral cycles, Brian, where.
01:15:39.000 You just have a perfect storm, right?
01:15:41.000 Gas prices are what they are.
01:15:43.000 You know, the economy is, we've still got inflation because of some of the Iran war stuff. 1.00
01:15:49.000 You know, it just could be the perfect storm for somebody like an El Sayed to get in office. 1.00
01:15:53.000 I happen to think that we're going to hold the Senate. 1.00
01:15:57.000 I don't know if it's going to be 50 50 plus Vance, but I think we're going to hold the Senate.
01:16:00.000 That's my prediction.
01:16:01.000 The House is a way bigger lift.
01:16:03.000 There's no doubt about it.
01:16:04.000 But we could also get a weird thing where we win in Michigan, we win in New Hampshire, we win in Maine.
01:16:10.000 Who knows?
01:16:10.000 Minnesota, but we slide back in red states.
01:16:15.000 You never know.
01:16:16.000 It could just be a funky map.
01:16:18.000 It could just be a very funky map.
01:16:19.000 But, Brian, last question here as we wrap up.
01:16:22.000 And thank you so much for your time.
01:16:25.000 The whole lawfare thing, how much are you expecting?
01:16:28.000 If the Dems get the House, you know, subpoenas, investigations, how bad do you think it could get?
01:16:35.000 I think, for example, Adam Schiff's kept his powder dry because he's scared to death.
01:16:39.000 I think he's ready to go.
01:16:40.000 I think he's going to go.
01:16:42.000 Gloves off against the Trump family.
01:16:44.000 I think he's going to go after Corey Lewandowski.
01:16:47.000 I think that he's going to look at Donald Trump's relationship with business people.
01:16:50.000 Here's the scary thing I think that people like Zuckerberg and people like Musk and people like Sergey Brin and people like David Sachs, who never would give the Republicans a time of day, they got used to Trump.
01:17:03.000 They go, man, we've been misled and he's been mischaracterized.
01:17:06.000 I'm on board.
01:17:07.000 Now you're going to punish, you're going to drag them in front of committees and try to punish them for their support.
01:17:14.000 Can you imagine this?
01:17:15.000 I mean, can you imagine?
01:17:16.000 Can you imagine?
01:17:17.000 What are you guilty of?
01:17:18.000 Supporting Donald Trump.
01:17:20.000 So it's good to scare the heck out.
01:17:22.000 What about these banks?
01:17:25.000 I don't know if you could say that Brian Moynan was a guy they tried to get back in, but they wouldn't let him.
01:17:29.000 But all the other bankers are all open because Trump's such a capitalist.
01:17:33.000 They thought they had an ally there.
01:17:34.000 Are they going to pay the price now?
01:17:36.000 So that's what I'm looking for.
01:17:38.000 I think it very well could happen.
01:17:39.000 But I hope these men and women push back and fight back and say, I'm allowed to do what I want.
01:17:44.000 My business will be my business.
01:17:45.000 Brian Kilmeade, author of Uniting the States, very smart analysis.
01:17:49.000 Thank you, Brian Kilmeade.
01:17:50.000 God bless you.
01:17:51.000 Congrats on the book.
01:17:52.000 All right, Blake and Andrew, thanks so much.
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