00:00:39.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:48.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:43.000And of course, I have to assess how candid I want to be in my reaction because there's a lot of things to say.
00:01:50.000So I guess initially I'll just say that, look, Tucker Carlson was the only person on American mainstream television who was willing to step outside of the playpin.
00:02:04.000I understand that there are some exceptions, but for the most part, that's true.
00:02:09.000And I'm not saying he wasn't just willing to step out of this playpin relative to, you know, the left or the right.
00:02:16.000He was willing to step outside of the playpen with respect to American media as such.
00:02:22.000He was the only person with the guts to challenge the story about Assad's chemical weapons attacks were being used as a pretext to basically launch the war that Hillary Clinton desperately wanted, but never got because Donald Trump was elected.
00:02:41.000In so many areas, he was willing to touch the actual serious issues that nobody else would.
00:02:51.000Not the, oh, look at what AOC was doing or this or that.
00:02:54.000And even a lot of like the trans political popcorn.
00:03:31.000There are other people who they wouldn't, you know, nobody would dare let them on any other Fox show, but Tucker would have them on to say things that you won't hear anywhere on American TV.
00:04:15.000Fox News had grandfathered cable news contracts in 115 million homes.
00:04:19.000Tucker was pulling between three to seven million people a night, upwards to 10 million, if you count clips and social media rewatches and YouTube.
00:05:25.000And just as the segue, he was asked about EPS.
00:05:29.000And he was basically put on the spot and forced to address the EPS issue.
00:05:33.000And that's what ultimately elevated it even beyond sort of Tucker's sphere into the more kind of mainstream conservative realm.
00:05:40.000So there's so many different ways in which Tucker would put people on the spot, force them to kind of take a stance on something that otherwise they wouldn't by calling them out on his show.
00:05:52.000And he was a very important and extremely rare source of corrective motivation on the right.
00:06:00.000And I really, I can't think of any other example of somebody with that kind of influence.
00:06:06.000So I want to play a couple pieces of tape here.
00:06:08.000First is Chuck Hugh Schumer saying that Tucker Carlson needs to be censored.
00:06:12.000This was only a couple months ago because the January 6th stuff, Darren, this was the Senate majority leader calling for the outright censorship of a cable news channel.
00:06:25.000Rupert Murdoch, who has admitted they were lies and said he regretted it, has a special obligation to stop Tucker Carlson from going on tonight now that he's seen how he has perverted and slimed the truth and from letting him go on again and again and again.
00:06:47.000Not because their views deserve such opprobrium, but because our democracy depends on it.
00:06:54.000If you think that the Tucker news isn't significant, why would the Senate majority leader be calling for the outright?
00:06:58.000That's actually not the censorship clip.
00:07:00.000On the Senate floor, he called for the actual censorship of a cable news broadcast.
00:07:06.000Now, I want to get into the Ray Epps thing because I think there might be a wrinkle here, Darren, but I just want to remind our audience, people are saying, well, who's behind this?
00:07:15.000The national security apparatus, the same national security regime that tried to take out Donald Trump, they are definitely celebrating this.
00:07:24.000Let me remind you what Chuck Hugh Schumer said, cut 20.
00:07:28.000Tell you, you take on the intelligence community.
00:07:31.000They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
00:07:34.000So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this.
00:07:40.000He was talking about Donald Trump taking on the intelligence community.
00:07:43.000Tucker took on the intelligence community quite often, and now he's out at Fox News.
00:07:49.000Well, again, he was a glitch in the system.
00:07:51.000You're not supposed to have somebody on prime time television, sort of the slop feed.
00:08:00.000You're not supposed to have someone talking about serious things that contravene the official narrative given to us by the National Security Establishment on a range of issues, including and especially January 6th.
00:08:13.000It really is amazing to see just how the regime will close ranks to defend their false, malicious narrative about January 6th in particular.
00:08:25.000They are furious that Tucker Carlson and Revolver News basically reshaped the national conversation on this, such that even polls for Democrats reveal that most people have a sense that there was federal involvement in January 6th.
00:08:41.000This is a massive loss to the regime because they're riding so much.
00:08:46.000So much is writing on the lie about January 6th, because it was supposed to be that major domestic insurrection event that they used to justify the transformation of our entire society into some kind of surveillance, politically weaponized surveillance type state.
00:09:04.000And they're still doing that to some degree.
00:09:06.000But the fact that their narrative on January 6th is questionable, it's not been legitimized to the broader public, that most people, especially on the right or conservatives, even centrists, don't buy it.
00:09:59.000I mean, the full story, you know, we don't have time for the full story.
00:10:05.000The short version is: 60 Minutes did a segment on Ray Epps.
00:10:11.000You know, kind of bizarre that they decide to do this sympathetic piece on Ray Epps.
00:10:17.000They've joined the New York Times, Adam Kensinger, and others in the sense that Ray Epps is the only January 6th participant that they display any sympathy to, and they go out of their way to make an entire segment on Epps.
00:10:31.000But the segment, which I watched last night, was really remarkable because the running theme was basically attacking so-called conspiracy sites that dared to question the official narrative with Epps.
00:10:44.000They mentioned Revolver News like six times.
00:10:47.000They show me on Tucker Carlson there, and yet they interview Epps and they don't interview me.
00:10:53.000And one of their producers that I won't even bother naming because he's just kind of a bag carrier.
00:10:59.000He's just kind of happy to be there and he's not making the decision.
00:11:02.000So I don't want to bring him too much heat.
00:11:40.000And yet, even with all of those advantages, they decided at the last minute that it would be too dangerous to interview me and give me an opportunity to defend my reporting, which was the underlying theme of their entire segment.
00:11:55.000And instead, they do this sympathetic portrayal of Ray Epps doing this sympathy tour saying, oh, all these people like Tucker and Revolver are making my life difficult.
00:12:06.000Epps, the guy. caught on January 5th telling people to go into the Capitol.
00:12:12.000The guy who was right there pre-positioned at the initial breach site, the guy whose behavior was so egregious, he's one of the first 20 listed on the FBI's most wanted list.
00:13:59.000Imagine having teeth like that and going on national television.
00:14:03.000And imagine the fact that they're willing to interview this overweight, nothing guy, pluck him out of some third-ranked nothing think tank that everyone laughs at to be the quote-unquote debunker of the theory.
00:14:16.000They get this guy, you know, out of men's warehouse and they won't interview me to defend the reporting that's the major theme of their own thing.
00:14:25.000It just shows it's not an exercise in journalism.
00:14:28.00060 Minutes are a team of janitors doing a mop-up job for the increasingly transparent lies surrounding January 6th that the regime demands us to believe, no matter how impossible it is.
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00:16:40.000So I hope whatever he does, he continues to be that voice for conservatism because, again, he's one of the few people pushing those boundaries, one of the few people actually speaking to independents and across the aisle and winning them over with facts, logic, and reason.
00:16:58.000I think he's probably a once-in-a-generation type talent.
00:17:25.000I think, you know, we've seen sort of the mainstream media and everything that they're doing anyway.
00:17:29.000I think perhaps even a talent like his is wasted in those kind of areas.
00:17:34.000I'd love to see Tucker speak his mind.
00:17:37.000Not that he doesn't, but speak with even fewer restraints on a platform where he's not answering to the Paul Ryans and the Karl Rogues and doesn't have to get that call that he went out of line saying what we all know to be true.
00:17:52.000I mean, the old conspiracy theory is the new I Told You So in advance.
00:17:59.000And he was one of the guys actually calling BS on all the stuff that was so obviously BS.
00:18:06.000We need that and we can't lose that kind of talent on our side.
00:18:24.000Yeah, listen, it was one of those things.
00:18:26.000You know, I started a publishing company with some of our friends.
00:18:29.000As you know, we've done one of your books because what was happening in publishing was the same thing that's happened everywhere else, where you're censoring one side, you're muting the thought of conservatives.
00:18:41.000And going through some of my father's archives and just doing some organizing, we noticed all of these letters that him and I guess his assistants had kept throughout the years from all of these people, just celebrities around the world, politicians, actors, so many of whom over the last few years have changed their tune about Donald Trump.
00:19:01.000And so we really just aggregated all of these notes into a book so people can understand exactly what's going on in the hypocrisy of the world.
00:19:10.000You know, you come out as a conservative, you push for America first values, and all of a sudden they're so against you.
00:19:16.000And yet that wasn't how they always felt.
00:19:18.000So it was really an awesome sort of trip down memory lane from so many of these people.
00:19:24.000Again, like people that we used to have dinner with that magically became the staunch voices against Trump and yada yada yada.
00:19:34.000I think people will really appreciate it.
00:19:36.000I was looking through the stuff and I said, oh my God, we have to put this together just so people understand just how warped our society is if you do anything even remotely conservative.
00:20:06.000I mean, you know, I know my father's really good about that.
00:20:08.000You've seen that, frankly, in the last week with some of the endorsements that he's received where people are like, well, you know, something really tragic happened to my family.
00:20:15.000Trump was the first guy, you know, by letter, by phone, by this.
00:20:47.000And what was really cool is that he kept all of these things for all these years.
00:20:52.000And again, probably if had it not been for politics, it wouldn't be that interesting.
00:20:56.000But when you see sort of the visceral negative reaction against Trump, all of these people who literally in writing, either kissing his butt or praising him and all the things that he was doing, it's truly an example of perhaps the finest example of hypocrisy today.
00:21:14.000And God knows we've seen a lot of it in the last few years, Charlie.
00:21:17.000What one or two letters stand out to you?
00:21:19.000I mean, without spoiling the whole book, which ones really pop?
00:21:23.000Yeah, obviously, number one has to be Alec Baldwin, right?
00:21:27.000Because just the way it went from being like a sort of funny parody of Trump to just as vicious as it gets, everything there.
00:21:35.000And this guy who's been obviously flagrantly racist on camera, beating up paparazzi, calling his daughter a pig, all these things, still ends up being portrayed as this holier than thou character because he's knocking Donald Trump, but watching him send a very letters to Trump, literally, kissing his butt and thanking him for his generosity and his kindness.
00:22:43.000I think people will truly appreciate it.
00:22:44.000Well, and also, I think for those people that, if you don't like Trump out there, and you read this book, you get a really amazing picture of a full life.
00:22:54.000I mean, this is a guy in arts, entertainment, media, politics, sports.
00:22:58.000I mean, every, not just a list, but like the triple A-list celebrities writing these long letters.
00:23:04.000I enjoyed our time at Mar-a-Lago and all this different sort of stuff.
00:23:07.000So I think it's important that people check it out.
00:23:09.000Very entertaining, and it makes a great, great gift and coffee table book, Letters to Trump.
00:23:30.000Maybe, you know, maybe he's going to replace Tucker Carlson in the eight o'clock hour on Fox, given the direction I've seen some of these things going.
00:23:42.000The guy, you know, everything's racist, except for when he says things that are flagrantly racist, when he's a sexist, when he's a misogynist, when he's a, that's, it's totally okay.
00:23:50.000You're not allowed to disagree with him because he checks, I guess, a couple of boxes in today's woke culture.
00:23:58.000And, you know, the fact that that doesn't fly at CNN is surprising a little bit.
00:24:01.000I guess this has probably been a long time coming or should have happened likely years ago, but at least they're getting this one right for someone who's just led the charge on the leftist lunacy and hypocrisy.
00:24:14.000For someone who just only cares about attention, it's quite something that he's canned on the same day as Tucker Carlson.
00:24:20.000He's like, I can't even own this day as a victim.
00:24:23.000By the way, 100%, you know, he's actually pissed off.
00:24:53.000So in closing here, Don, the 2020 rate, the 2024 race is continuing to heat up.
00:24:58.000Seems like DJT is more ahead in the polls than ever before.
00:25:04.000What is your take on how things are going?
00:25:05.000It seems like almost like the primary is over before it's even started.
00:25:09.000Well, listen, you know, Charlie, yes, it feels that way.
00:25:12.000And it certainly feels that way when you get out amongst the people.
00:25:15.000I think the problem that you face with some of that is that the billionaire donor class is still very much wanting someone other than Trump because they want a president that asks how high when they say to jump.
00:25:28.000They want a president that has to take their calls.
00:25:31.000You can be America first as long as you're not getting in the way of us making an extra half a cent on our widget.
00:25:37.000So that's what's going to keep that primary alive.
00:25:41.000It's going to be a real fight because it's going to be like we saw last week with Ken Griffin, who donated half a billion dollars to Harvard with no restrictions.
00:25:51.000This is supposed to be a leader in the conservative movement.
00:25:54.000He's funding the woke ideologies that are destroying our country without restrictions.
00:25:59.000And those are going to be the guys that are going to be the primary funders of my father's opposition, whether it's DeSantis or otherwise.
00:26:05.000And again, it's because they want that power back.
00:26:08.000They want that control back of their politicians that they lost under the Trump era.
00:26:16.000And when they didn't get it, and instead you saw policies that were designed to actually help real Americans, I understand that's shocking.
00:26:23.000That's shocking in American politics today, but we saw the results with our own eyes, whether it was real wage growth, whether it was energy independence, whether it was job opportunities, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:26:35.000They kind of like that, but if it wasn't good for them and their ability to make an extra billion dollars themselves rather than putting food and allowing the hardworking Americans to live their American dream, they don't want it that badly.
00:26:49.000You see the endorsements coming out of the Florida delegation, especially people who know the person that many would consider the primary competition when the vast majority of the Florida delegation that knows this individual really well is like, yep, we're with Trump 100%.
00:27:04.000I think that tells you everything you need to know.
00:27:06.000But don't kid yourself, a few hundred million dollars by the billionaire donor class spent on TV that you're seeing, it can still make a difference.
00:27:14.000So I never considered it over until it's actually over.
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00:29:55.000Remember, and we played this with Darren Beattie.
00:29:57.000I just want to remind you, though, that Chuck Schumer said, anybody that crosses the intel agencies, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
00:30:18.000He says, Fox fires Tucker Carlson five days after he crosses the red line by acknowledging the TV networks pushing a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their pharma advertisers.
00:30:28.000Carlson's breathtakingly courageous April 19th monologue broke TV's two biggest rules.
00:30:34.000Tucker told the truth about how greedy pharma advertisers controlled TV news network, and he lambasted newscasters for promoting jabs they knew were lethal and worthless.
00:30:43.000For many years, Tucker has had the nation's biggest audience, averaging 3.5 million, 10 times the size of CNN.
00:30:49.000Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of big pharma.
00:30:52.000That is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who just tweeted that out.
00:31:49.000Glenn Greenwald said: the removal of Tucker means the elimination of the only real sustained dissent on U.S. militarism, the U.S. security state.
00:31:59.000Right now, trending on Twitter, number one trend is Tucker.
00:33:11.000Well, Tucker senior producer Justin Wells is out at Fox News.
00:33:15.000And according to Max Taney, I think he writes for The Daily Beast, if I'm not mistaken, or semaphore now, the lawyer for Abby Grossberg, a former producer who made allegations of sexism and harassment on Tucker's show, says they, quote, have no comment on Tucker and his executive producer's departure from Fox other than that, quote, timing is a matter of physics, as such is undeniable.
00:33:40.000Not really sure what to make of that, to be honest.
00:33:42.000That's a strange, that's a strange way to word it.
00:33:46.000Remember, they let Laura Trump go from Fox, Dan Bongino, and now Tucker Carlson.