CAN YOU POP OR RAP？ Ft. Baby Tate ｜ Drew Afualo ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 78
Summary
In this episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your favorite, the legendary Baby Tate, I chat to the one and only Baby Tate about her love language, her love languages, and how she deals with the pressures of being the strong female lead.
Transcript
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why is there so much expected of us you don't expect all of this from male rappers like i don't
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see this type of discourse happening why do you expect so much of us why do we have to be the
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superheroes yeah the strong female lead like why can't we just have pussy if we want literally
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hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your
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favorite everybody knows me nobody cares about me anymore anyways on to the amazing guest today we
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have the iconic the legendary baby tate welcome to the show thank you for happy to have you thank
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you we're matching summer girl vibes love that for us giving the girls outside very much so and we are
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outside yes are you outside this summer why would i not be where else would i be literally except
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outside yeah i'm so happy to have you i'm excited that you're here on the show me too my big fan of
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your music thank you how has you oh thank you oh my gosh tate you're making me laugh also i feel like
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it's important i mention this tate is also my dad's name what oh my god you like pull up and then you're
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my dad drew up in meaning to tell you i have something to share with you that's so amazing
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yeah my dad's name is like a special connection look at us destined you and i well and now we're
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together he's a pisces oh what's yours similarities in there i'm a taurus oh i love tauruses i get
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along with taurus women especially very well what's your sign a virgo oh earth sign okay earth sign
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that's also explains why i'm so fucking mean yes it does for sure i like i love my dad dearly but
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when i tell people he's a pisces they're like oh especially pisces men they get a really bad rap
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pisces men and cancer men i think water sign men in a general sense universally hated not the best
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not the best experience would not recommend have you had a poor experience with water sign men yes
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yeah what was that like um i feel like i date a lot of water sign men i feel like i don't know i
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feel like i attract them something about earth that just attracts water you know it's like who
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doesn't love the beach you know what i'm saying so i feel like i don't want to take a dip right i
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feel you so i feel like they just i don't know they're obsessed with me like cancer men are obsessed
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with me i can't get away from them it's ridiculous i'm sick i'm sick and tired i'm tired of it
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because i feel like you know as an earth sign like i also have no water in my chart anywhere so
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like really yeah at all none at all so like i'm very like you know and i don't do much crying and
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stuff and i feel like you're not very emotional i'm emotional but not outwardly are you kind of
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like hold it in i do yeah i do so with cancer men and i just feel like yeah they just get a bit
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too emotional for me and i'm like i can't i don't know what to do clingy yeah do you feel
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do you feel like smothered absolutely overwhelmed yeah but on the opposite side do you like that kind
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of attention are you like a love language kind of girl like are you like a hands-on kind of person
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are you like a little bit different it's so weird like just a little like touch my finger but
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don't get too close yeah i was just talking with my friends about like what is my love language
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because um this girl she was just being like very like forward with me and i was like whoa
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you're doing too much yeah yeah i'm feeling like i'm choking and my friends were like i feel like you
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don't like when people like you and i was like that's not true i just want you to like me and make
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it make sense like like me in the way in a very specific way that i like exactly because if we just
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met yesterday why are you in love with me tomorrow like obviously i can see why you would be in love
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with me but chill out like let's let it progress chill yeah like a little too i get it yeah but stop
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well other than being outside what have you been what have you been working on you working on i know
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you said you're working on new music i am which is exciting i am i'm super excited i'm working on
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a new album um i have an ep that's coming out soon how fun but yeah i've been just like in the studio
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working on this album with this amazing writer um justin tranter and it's just been like the greatest
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experience really just working on new stuff and i feel like so many people try to put me in a box
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of like what i should or can do as an artist and i don't know like this album is really about to eat
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like real bad i believe you i'm i'm so excited every single you've dropped so far eats so i'm excited
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thank you i i'm curious too you've been in the game for a while now like since something like the rise
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of something like tiktok where obviously like virality helps a lot pushing music and now so much so
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that i think even labels are now like almost pressuring yeah artists upcoming or established
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already to like continue to post their songs on tiktok since the pandemic kind of blew tiktok up
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have you seen that kind of affect like the music industry as a whole has it kind of changed how
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you approach like releasing music that kind of stuff um it definitely i would say has changed the
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music industry period tiktok has completely like revolutionized what it even means to be an artist
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yeah low-key um because anybody like any song any sound you can go viral just from you know the the
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most crazy things whether it's a trend that someone did or someone attached like a filter to their sound
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and then now everybody's using this and it's like what is this song who is this artist so it's definitely
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like changed the way that i think all of us as artists approach yeah um music you know it's really
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fun because i'm able to like test like do y'all like this song y'all vibing with it no okay we're gonna
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go back to the drawing girl i was totally kidding and that's not that i hate that song as well i i also
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hate it yeah i was trying to let everyone else know that it wasn't good that it's bad so i'm glad we're
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all on the same page thank you yeah but yeah i i love tiktok honestly like that's cool i have a
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i love tiktok that's what i will say that's good i'm glad to hear that i think too it's also really
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given artists that aren't as like established as yourself just yet like the chance to kind of like
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showcase their yeah you know talent and capability in a way that i think would be a lot harder if they
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were going the traditional route yeah especially if they don't look a certain way so if they're not
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like small white and like pop star or like very beauty standard eurocentric it's a lot harder to get
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in the door regardless yeah so i feel like something like tiktok has kind of changed the opportunity it's
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kind of like given them more equal footing so they can kind of showcase their talent too i feel like
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sometimes even like more established artists have a more difficult time yeah on tiktok yeah just because
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like it's hard to get out of that like artist box yeah like traditional way of going a person
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that's why i don't that's why i think it helps you a lot and you like use it as a tool to just like
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further the opportunity to for more people to hear your music yeah some people i think fight against
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it because they're so they're like oh it's so corny yeah i know which i think is like i'm like do you
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want to do it or not like i mean it's free marketing you want people to hear your music or
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no yeah it's it's marketing at the end of the day and i also think too it's like changed even
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traditional hollywood too because now you see like different artists like whether they're actors or
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performers of any kind they're like hiring tiktokers to help them make content so that it can go viral
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and then people will go see their shit or listen to it tiktok has changed the world
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in a great way truly and for men in a horrible way by platforming me
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so my bad no you're welcome yeah actually you're welcome to those men that was a lie i'm not sorry
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at all not even a little bit sometimes i remind people i'm like especially like and when i say
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people i mean men who hate me um that if you want to blame anyone they should blame my boyfriend
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because he encouraged me to post in the first place like he was like why don't you try that and i was
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you know i'm gonna be 28 so like in tiktok years a bitch when i tell them how old i am you think i
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said 65 because they're like are you gonna retire soon i'm like i'm not even like 30 yet girl like
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what do you mean retire i can't even spell that word every time i tell them they're like oh my god
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it's like that clip of kevin harbert he's like damn damn yeah it's a don cheetle no yeah i feel that i'm
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27 so i feel that as well yeah like in the music industry as well and i have been doing this for a
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while yeah so it's like people be like oh my gosh i thought you were like 23 wow you're 27 jesus
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i'm just like it's not that old you guys the way they look at me like i'm so geriatric is insane
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and honestly annoying yes i'm like you're 15 okay of course you're gonna think i'm an old man
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yeah but it's so interesting to think about because i remember being 15 and thinking that 30 was so old
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and then like and i don't want them to make me feel that way no i'm like actually you're lame
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because you're 15 like ew get older loser i was talking to my uh to one of my buddies recently
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uh well he's my brother-in-law he's my boyfriend's brother and uh he's 22 like just turned 22 uh he
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was basically telling us that he was going to a party and he was bringing a dish right and my boyfriend
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was like what fucking party you're going to where you have to bring a dish like you're 22 yeah well
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he's like you're 22 years old like what party are you bringing food to and he was like oh well it's
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just like my buddy's having a barbecue whatever oh cute and we were like okay that's cool and then i
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was telling him i'm like man when i was 22 years old like it's so much better because you think like
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oh i'm never gonna die when you're like in your early 20s um and then when you get closer to 30
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i was like i'm so much happier now because i'm like financially stable yeah and like sure of who
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i am yeah when i was in my early 20s i broke and fucking just soaking wet for no reason yeah what's
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going on down bad it's like really i'm like you have no idea you have no money but your alcohol
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tolerance is at an all-time high and that's like the only thing that keeps you from realizing that
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you have no money yeah it was the best of times and the worst of times it really was and that's
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why i said you know what like when tiktok people look at me like i'm a million years old i'm like
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that's okay it's fine it's so much better up here i promise when you get older it's way better
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and i i think that like just as we get older like this little aged filter that's on tiktok yeah
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we're like oh my god it looks so terrible i'm like oh my gosh i can't wait to be somebody's
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grandma i cannot wait i oftentimes have said like i want to be a mom yeah but like i really
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want to be a grandma oh that's so sweet you're like can i just skip that part just skip we'll
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skip yeah skip to the next stage that's easy easy peasy i know i've seen that age filter too i'm like
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that doesn't really bother me well first of all like my mom's here and she looks 15 so i'm hoping
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that the age is daddy i'm hoping the skin stays with me yeah i don't care about wrinkles i just would
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like to be like healthy and able yeah for the most part which i feel like that's a personal
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decision like if you decide to be healthy and able then you're gonna do that yeah people are just like
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oh my god i look terrible i'm gonna get botox and just like just live your life you don't even know
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what you're actually gonna look like at 60 or if you're gonna live till 60 you know what i mean
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that's why i'm like that's not worth worrying about i got too many things going on i got too many men i
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gotta fuck up you know what i mean don't have time to think about what i'm gonna look like in
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50 years just buy it man i'm busy i'm busy terrorizing men on the internet i love that
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okay so on to the topic for today what we're talking about is representation in the hip-hop
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industry obviously as we already discussed baby tay has been around for a minute and we've talked about
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how like the music industry has kind of like shifted in a way that i don't think anyone predicted
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yeah but like i already said i'm happy that you're like leaning into it as opposed to like
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getting like freaked out by it how it's like kind of changed how you work when it comes to marketing
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your music or like trying to find a bigger or different audience so i think also too as like
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a female rapper yeah that is like a whole different lane and a whole different like male-dominated
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industry so like have you seen anything change as far as like female representation in hip-hop or
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have you seen it like get better or move forward or what do you think i think it's so beautiful i've
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been saying for like a long time i think since i really first started making music that there was
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like this renaissance of female rappers and of just women artists in general but it's just very
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it feels like a blessing to be a part of it you know um because when i started i think really
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really getting my name out there because i started putting music out in about like 2015
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um and started like really kind of getting my foot a little bit damp um in like 2018 and i remember
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being at like um south by southwest and seeing like megan the stallion do fader four and yeah like
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meeting queen key and and malibu mitch and just seeing all these people and being like wow this is
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just so beautiful and i feel like since since then um and i really feel like since the beginning of
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hip-hop like women have always been really like represented but i feel like right now there's just
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like so many different um because of i think social media and things like that too there's just so many
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different representations that you can see like yeah you can hear us city girls you can you can see a
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baby's hey you can see a ice spice you know and these are all different perspectives and all different
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body shapes and and types and skin colors and everything um so just it's really dope to be a
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part of yeah i feel like it's very inspiring um i know if i was a young girl if i was maybe you know
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back when i was 2018 we don't need to say how old i was but back in that time i think i might have
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been like super inspired right now yeah because it's just like you know what i'm gonna go and do
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that i'm gonna try it yeah i saw i actually saw recently i think it was like a month ago i saw
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a compilation someone had stitched together a bunch of tiktoks of female rappers that have
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been like dropping like new viral songs like you were one of them the fly on a boss girls were in
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there callie was in there ice spice was in there all of whom have like used tiktok to really like
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mobilize like a new audience in a in a whole new lane for like music and the way it's consumed and
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marketed and i saw someone did like a compilation of all of you and they were like the rap girls are
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having fun again and i love that yeah like they're outside and they're having fun and that's like it's
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just like the city girls when the city girls came out and really like started going mainstream it's
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just like it's fun it's fun music it's like something for the girls girls just want to have fun
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at the end of the day that's where the blonde comes in exactly i'm outside having more fun
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but yeah i just feel like i've for a very long time anytime anyone asks me so what's like one
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word to describe your music it's always fun because i just you know i want to have fun i want to be a
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little silly you know i love to be silly silly goofy mood in the music sometimes but you know always
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like really feeling good but yeah yeah i like to not take myself too seriously sometimes and just
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live life you only got one yeah and it's it's a way to like the way that you and other artists like
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all those other wonderful women are all expressing different feelings yeah from the female perspective
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it's just like whether it's about relationships about sex about confidence whatever it is you get to
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express it in a way that's fun and flirty and silly and just like it's just like it you know
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what i mean like it's so fun i fucking love it it's so much fun and i admire people like you for like
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not only being here obviously being in the in the industry but also like setting the course like
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staying the path and kind of staying true to what it is you want to make yeah because i think it's easy
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like especially when you start building an audience to kind of conform in a way that's like or feel
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pressured to conform like you're like i gotta kind of fit in these parameters otherwise people may
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not want to work with me or listen to my music yeah i think i've definitely felt those pressures
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though um but you know i think as as i grow and as i get older i'm kind of allowing myself to release
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myself from the parameters that i put on me because no one else like actually puts these parameters on
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you yeah it's kind of like a mental thing yeah like oh my god i have to do this and it's like no you
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don't actually you can do whatever the fuck you want um so yeah i'm really grateful to even have
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people still this is like my seventh year putting music out i'm grateful to even have people that
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still are checking for it and like actively wanting new music yeah so it feels i feel very blessed um
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because not many people i won't say that but not everyone can say like yeah i've been making music
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and putting it out professionally for seven years and it's been growing this whole time yeah especially in
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the music industry which is like it's just a revolving door yeah it's turning all the time
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so i'm i'm so fucking excited that people are just as excited about you as i am period we love that
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okay so on the topic of representation for those of you who don't know what we do here on the comment
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section is we bring videos that i was tagged in that are applicable to our topic today so we're going
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to talk about some of those videos with tate this first one i just give a little summaries it says
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a man is recording a video of himself with the caption how the fuck is it misogynistic to think
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that men make better rap music when it's literally the truth huh love that any thoughts any initial
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thoughts i love that um i'm literally almost at a point of tears i'm crying laughing internally
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men are so fucking dumb men who say shit like that are stupid not smart but that's just a lie
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hey that's a lie it's just not true um unfortunately you know no disrespect everybody that's out there
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making music you keep going you keep doing you you know what i'm saying but the girls are eating they
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are the girls are eating and frankly they're eating the bitches up yes frankly very bad like
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there's nothing left on the plate for you guys i'm sorry so sorry sorry men you should have fixed
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yourself a plate because the girls they ate all the food up yeah so that's just not true it isn't and
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also it's very i mean it's very subjective right like art is subjective so yeah not everyone is gonna
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like the same things that's fine but to like blanket statement say that all men are better
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rappers than all women it's just simply it's not true like the most untrue thing i've ever heard
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about hip-hop yeah it's not the case that's not the case at all literally especially right now
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like especially right now of all times well you might have been able to say that like i don't know
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maybe 20 years ago you mean before they allowed women in the space right about that time yeah around
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then yeah when there's only men then yeah men are the best at it yes but now no yeah that's not
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true at all and i also think too i mean obviously that speaks to a larger issue which is just like
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you hate women and that's why you're like what everything women like and and do is stupid you hate
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um it's just like that's why i said deep into that why you hate that yeah you want to do it
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i think they want his work listen and i'm not stopping you i think you should go ahead i encourage
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you i encourage you to do so that's what when they say when they say things like they see music like
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yours or you know like the city girls or like ice spice or whatever and because it's fun and upbeat
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and there's like silly bars in there yeah they're like well this isn't real music and i'm like come
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on okay well 21 savage once wrapped i know your mama taught you to look both ways before crossing me
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that's silly and a bar silly but i said silly and a bar we love to have fun yeah i said and but then
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when it's a woman saying a silly ass bar you're like stupid that's dumb that's not music that's not
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come on and that's all like what are the panties out of your booty it's hurting up there i bet
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you're chafing babe take out the wedgie and also if you remove yourself even further what are the
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odds that like some random dude who just is like scrolling on tiktok knows more about rap than you
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do what are the odds pretty fucking low probably probably low yeah probably low there are some out
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there there are some they do exist because so do unicorns but i would say the odds are low yeah
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they're very very very low in fact like someone who does it for a living versus someone who
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criticizes for free i don't know can't relate sounds like unemployed behavior to me personally
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this uh okay so some of the comments on this uh this one says for real all they talk about is sex
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and their bars aren't even that good plus with their annoying voice it just sounds trash
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man you're right no rapper ever talked about sex before women came in the industry
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exactly ever literally as soon as roxanne shante came out pussy was being all of a sudden all of a
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sudden it got vulgar all of a sudden all of a sudden pussy was being popped
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um yeah it's just it's just so limited in thinking truly it's like it's void really you guys everybody
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talks about sex and thinks about how do you think we got here like somebody talks about it okay that's
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what i'm saying the conversations have been being had already okay and i feel like it's the problem is
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with men specifically is that now that women have taken our bodies and we are taking control of the
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narrative of what we are doing with our bodies yeah now they're mad because it's like no no no no no
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i i wanted to hear a man say i was fucking this bitch yeah yeah like i want to hear how about how
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men disrespect women i don't want to hear i don't want to hear you enjoying it that you were popping
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your own pussy yeah i wanted to hear him say that he popped your pussy yeah i always say i always say
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too that it's like the thing they hate most about stuff like that is that it's consensual
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they don't they don't like that women are autonomous in that decision like they're like i
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love my body and i love to have sex and i'm going to talk about it um they hate that part because it
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gives them power and if they don't hold sexual power over you like what power do they have none that's
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how they see it and so like even like if you think about that like ties perfectly to the reaction to
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wop when wop came out obviously great song also the year it came out my most played song of the year
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on spotify number one on my raps don't care at all i'm so proud of that actually and when megan said
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i almost jumped out of my skin when she said switch my weave make him feel like he cheating
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uh-oh wow oh write it down it's scripter that's what i'm saying you know what i mean
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and then you compare you compare that song to the song slut me out by annalee choppa
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hey what's the difference there's mendo rap around about sex meanwhile he has a bar that says suck on
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this dick like you ugly uh-oh what does that even mean i feel like ugly bitches and pretty bitches
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both suck dick the same like what does that mean you want the dick sucked or not you know what i
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mean what the hell no period yeah that's not like what's the difference there's no difference there's
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just one of them doesn't have a coochie that's it that's it i'm like you guys have a problem with
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something that you wish you were having that's why involuntarily celibate that's why this next one
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says female rappers would be so much better if they rapped about actual topics rather than their
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bodies is a body not a topic i don't know according to this uh master of rap apparently
00:25:27.660
it is not well if they wrapped up actual top like what the weather want to rap about climate change
00:25:34.060
what the fuck are you talking about probably yes oh his username is god that's god can you believe
00:25:41.040
god wrote that god i thought you fucked with me wait hold on he's like fuck world hunger i need
00:25:49.140
to talk about female rappers yeah that topic is much more pressing i don't it's just why why is
00:25:55.940
there so much expected of us you don't expect all of this from male rappers like i don't see this type
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of discourse happening why do you expect so much of us why do we have to be the superheroes
00:26:06.700
yeah the strong female lead like why can't we just have pussy if we want literally if you don't
00:26:16.080
want to pop your pussy you don't have to but why can't you do it if you want well because you're
00:26:20.080
you identify as a woman so you need to be an educational rapper you need to be like miss rachel
00:26:25.000
and just only talk about things that help babies not miss reach you need to rap like miss rachel like
00:26:30.640
you need to be like blippy and just rap about things that help grow their little brains like
00:26:36.600
peppa pig literally rap about actual topics doesn't make this sound have a song called anxiety
00:26:41.640
yeah yeah she talks about her anxiety and her fears for the future yeah yeah eat that god
00:26:47.100
look it up god there are songs i think in pretty much every woman rappers catalog that is going to be
00:26:55.960
probably the deepest song you've ever heard in your life yeah but people don't want to go out and
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search for that of course so they just feel like you don't make this type of music it's like actually
00:27:05.160
there are one two three five of the 20 songs that are on this album um are super super deep you might
00:27:12.400
even cry listening to it but no you just listen to the single yeah exactly i was just about to say i'm
00:27:18.940
like you just listen to like the 10 second clip you hear on tiktok and you don't actually go look at
00:27:24.280
their discography so you have no real idea at all if they rap about real things like you have no idea
00:27:29.700
yeah and also real thing no they have no idea and no desire to like even see female rappers as real
00:27:37.140
people actually you're just like limited or professionals yeah like you're just limited to
00:27:42.140
this bar about cooch and you're gonna die that way i'm gonna make sure of it it's gonna be written
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on your tombstone all she talked about was cooch oh fuck i hope so i hope that's on mine this last
00:27:56.000
comment says anything that goes against what they want or like is misogynistic to them they ate
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and you're right they ate yeah that's true um most times that means like general disrespect
00:28:12.420
so yeah that's misogynistic i don't like that i think i had a guy literally tell me like
00:28:18.860
um he's like oh you're so i forget what i had written i think it's because earlier this year i
00:28:24.940
hosted stuff for the oscars and then um when it was like announced there were obviously men who were
00:28:30.560
like why the fuck is a tiktoker there i'm like well all your faves are there and i was like because
00:28:35.180
i'm better than you that's why i'm more talented than you that's why um just in case write it down so
00:28:40.900
don't forget next time and when we they were like well i think it's like really hypocritical
00:28:45.880
of you because you say you don't respect men and you expect them to respect you i'm like
00:28:50.900
i don't respect misogynists and that includes you right and that's okay you're right i don't like
00:28:57.660
you and i don't respect you that's okay and that's what we can stand with and that's it i have
00:29:03.460
no problem saying that out loud no that's what we the problem is most men who are misogynistic
00:29:08.560
have a problem admitting it like yeah saying it out loud and calling them misogynistic oh that's
00:29:15.240
a button oh girl omg it's such a buzzword to them like they get i called my ex that one time
00:29:22.600
really he punched a hole in the wall t yeah and that was supposed to prove to you that he wasn't
00:29:28.460
great job hey you're right you proved me wrong but destroying property that proved me wrong
00:29:37.340
yikes that's crazy yeah i would hope so she's louise yeah men who that's such a buzzword to them
00:29:44.880
to men who are misogynistic it's like such a like what do you mean i came out of a woman
00:29:50.420
that doesn't mean anything what do you mean i'm not racist i love black girls
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i have three black friends okay i once had a guy tell me that i'm like he's like i'm not racist because
00:30:04.540
he was being racist and he's like i'm not racist at all he's like do you know how many people how
00:30:10.880
many i could tell you exactly how many black people i have in my life and that do you think
00:30:15.540
that makes me racist and i go well considering you're keeping a tally yeah like because i don't
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know how many black people are in my life i could not tell you considering you know an exact number
00:30:28.540
yeah i would go ahead and say yeah you're probably pretty racist yeah probably um there's john he's
00:30:34.560
like i literally wrote it down the other day i know three yeah exactly jokes on you he's like and
00:30:40.720
you thought huh i bet you thought i had never met a black person he really he really got me he ate
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you up okay this next video is a group of guys recording a podcast and they're discussing already
00:30:56.360
immediately full stop burn it immediately uh they're discussing how nikki minaj is overrated in
00:31:04.140
terms of being considered a quote hip-hop legend their argument is that she's better at pop than rap
00:31:10.500
when have you ever heard nikki minaj sing a pop song she does have good pop songs she has pop
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songs but has she ever sang yes she has come on don't make me start she riffs she riffs i know she
00:31:26.380
riffs but i'm saying i'm thinking when i think sing i'm thinking like ariana grande sing beyonce sing
00:31:31.120
well yeah but she be singing grand piano you heard this song oh that is true you're right you're right
00:31:37.100
that is true but but she's known for her rapping so absolutely but the thing about it is i think
00:31:43.300
it's something that um artists like myself also doja cat um also deal with it's like why can you
00:31:51.020
not just accept that this artist is multifaceted truly like if she wants to do pop she could do pop
00:31:57.480
if she wants to do rap she could do rap and she's going to do both amazingly you shouldn't be sitting
00:32:02.660
here like oh she's not that great because she's better at this than that if you like that better
00:32:08.560
then that's fine for you to like that better yeah but you can't take away from the legendariness
00:32:14.560
that's true that is very true you can't take that away also like even like the world's like best
00:32:21.780
male rappers yeah they all are very like they they they dabble in both yeah like i mean you could
00:32:30.860
say that someone i mean like the weekend sings right but he can also like sometimes he can spit
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a bar but he can also sing right and then you have you know you have other people like drake is a good
00:32:41.620
one black is a good one yeah those are all people that can do both so you're never measuring them
00:32:47.580
against each other because they're two very different things like they're two different
00:32:50.080
genres it's like apples and oranges i feel like you can't compare them because they're two different
00:32:54.700
genres you could compare with their raps alongside each other right or their pop songs alongside each
00:32:59.780
other i think that a lot of people they just confuse like opinions with facts and it's like
00:33:08.060
you don't have to like that you might not even like that genre of music yeah um i'm trying to think of
00:33:14.420
like an artist that makes country music and also other types i don't listen to country music that often
00:33:19.880
so i it's not ringing a bell it's not ringing a bell but like you know if you don't like the country
00:33:25.980
music that's okay for you to not like country music yeah but you can't say like oh they not
00:33:30.900
really that fire just because you don't like country yeah exactly again it's art it's subjective yeah so
00:33:36.180
and also to say that she's much better at pop when her rap songs are like literally insane like huge
00:33:45.040
like crazy huge like like her verse on monster for example some of the best bars of all time that's
00:33:51.920
what i mean and like she wasn't even like where she's at now when she was on that song when she
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was put on that song so to say that oh her pop songs are better she's not a rap legend i'm like
00:34:01.580
and who the fuck are you a hater yeah born and bred that's what it is and people are gonna hate and hate
00:34:09.000
and hate if they hate on the one of the greatest female rappers to ever do it they're gonna continue
00:34:14.340
to hate on every female like literally afterwards so it's something that's very unfortunate that we have
00:34:20.100
to deal with but that's just how men and i think just like small-minded men because i think any man
00:34:28.020
that's like securing himself and like secure in the fact that women are amazing is gonna see that
00:34:35.380
awesome woman doing some awesome shit and be like that's great yeah i have nothing else to say and be
00:34:41.280
not not be threatened by it no be so threatened by something that you can't even mad man with podcasts
00:34:46.740
that's what i'm like can you rap can you rap or sing can you pop or rap yeah i was like go ahead
00:34:53.020
and spit me a few bars go ahead and spit me a few bars and then i'll tell you if i think you have
00:34:59.860
the right yeah i'll tell you if you if i think you have the right to deem anyone a hip-hop legend or not
00:35:06.160
i think that should be a new show oh that's a great idea get hip-hop critics to come in like
00:35:11.840
american idol style they have to spit some bars that's a great idea let's be like that wasn't it
00:35:18.020
yeah they're like no no actually no no terrible the comments on this are like just as terrible but
00:35:27.800
this one says that's all she's been doing for years is jumping on everybody else's shit
00:35:32.200
you noticed you noticed she never released singles with just her on it huh i don't think
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that's true i don't i don't think that's true it's not true i just she's been in the game for like
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over 10 years i'm it's just i find it really hard to believe she's never dropped a single just by
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herself i find that really hard to believe the lies the lies the stories the fairy tales and the
00:35:56.400
fallacy that they will continue to make up about female rappers is just disgusting like it really
00:36:04.720
is leave us alone honestly please i literally like went on spotify and looked up her fucking singles
00:36:12.220
like i want there are a lot there are a ton there are literally like dozens but her number three one
00:36:17.720
is starships there's nobody on there uh beauty and a b uh super freaky girl all those are singles
00:36:24.760
singles with nobody else on them eat a dick okay next comment let's go to the beach let's go get
00:36:31.740
away let's go get away wow like i want to do that every day yeah when she said salt all around that
00:36:39.280
rim rim rim rim tray yeah poetry no for real this next comment says the thing about her rise is that
00:36:48.040
she literally have any competition i think he's saying he she didn't have any competition she was running
00:36:54.520
unopposed for years i mean i think that i'm trying to think in the time frame what the truth of the
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matter is is nikki minaj is one of the greatest rappers to ever exist um so i feel like when people
00:37:12.700
say competition it's like why do we even want competition why does there even have to be
00:37:17.860
competition well there's more than enough room for male rappers yeah like there's a million and one
00:37:22.700
yeah but there can only be one too many honestly of the male rappers but for for women it's like oh
00:37:29.940
there can only be one there was no competition it's like there were a lot actually a lot of very very
00:37:36.440
successful uh women rappers driving yeah so it's like also the revisionist history is a bit
00:37:44.080
like it's a real cherry pick like they pick and choose which ones they like picking it's it's just
00:37:49.660
so annoying i can't imagine how exhausted she must be no literally also i think to say that is to assume
00:37:55.560
that she was the first like legendary female rapper yeah to come up and that's simply not true she's
00:38:01.740
like she's one of the most famous and legendary in the like 21st century but she was not the first
00:38:08.040
like female rapper to like really yeah come into the space and change the game she was not the first
00:38:13.520
so to say that like she's just been so unopposed that's just not true like she was just the biggest
00:38:20.220
at her at her rise like she was the biggest yes yeah and this last comment says she stole her image
00:38:27.840
from lil kim she doesn't have any classics we'll see that doesn't make any sense
00:38:35.360
see what that also like i feel like that also lends towards the idea that there can only ever be one
00:38:43.740
like with women when women are in a male-dominated industry yeah um they do everything they can to
00:38:50.260
turn them against each other right like it's sick the it's truly the the patriarchy's hard at work
00:38:55.180
always trying to make them believe that there can only ever be enough space for one yeah which is
00:39:00.520
a lie right and also like it's a tactic to undercut us because if we're all attacking each other then
00:39:07.320
we're never going to focus on the true enemy which is the man i think it's it's very sad that um these
00:39:15.000
narratives have just continued to to go on throughout just female rap in a general sense like oh you copied
00:39:23.180
this and you copied that and yeah men copy each other every freaking day literally from heads to
00:39:30.360
toe yeah from the pinky to the pinky yeah and no one says anything no one cares because i feel like
00:39:38.780
men are allowed to be like i don't know like brotherly and nobody like bats an eye yeah but
00:39:45.660
for women it's like oh you copied this you copied that and it's like actually what if we just have
00:39:50.460
the same influences yeah what if we just like the same things yeah what if we're similar what if we
00:39:55.600
looked at the same pinterest board i don't know you know what i'm saying it's like a lot of factors
00:39:59.680
there are a lot of things and i feel like people so often get so caught up in like aesthetic and
00:40:06.480
stuff but like we're all different people yeah and to boil us down to things such as so simple as like
00:40:13.200
looks like yeah there's only so many ways a human being can look yeah when you're really thinking
00:40:20.140
about it and culture in general is derivative right so like art is derivative so you are inspired by
00:40:26.280
what you see and you absolutely when you want to express or create art a lot of times there is
00:40:31.780
influence within it that could be similar to something else that always exists does that mean
00:40:36.920
that someone is ripping off a bit no because by that measure like if you were to change the industry
00:40:43.040
and you're talking about female comics right like and male comics male comics all have the same shit
00:40:49.120
like for the most part like awful male comics all have offensive jokes and that's like their thing
00:40:53.200
right um female comics come into the space and they start doing different kinds of jokes and
00:40:58.320
they're like oh well you guys are so similar because you both talk about having a pussy
00:41:01.500
well see that's not the same thing is it like we both rap about popping pussy that doesn't mean that
00:41:06.400
it's exactly the same song there it's coming from two different brains yeah and expressed in two
00:41:12.660
different ways two different voices timbers of voice tones yeah like and flow is so different too
00:41:18.340
for every huge female rapper like yourself the flow is so different for each one so like to say that
00:41:24.340
they're all the fucking same is like what you said you got to apply that then to men too because
00:41:29.600
by that measure they're all the same too everybody's the same yeah like all of them are exactly the same
00:41:34.740
we are we are all one i always think too that if it's like if it's up to men they're gonna hate on
00:41:44.780
women no matter what yeah no matter what you want to do if you deathbed yeah you could be complete i
00:41:50.940
always uh joke i compare it to like uh my friend emily marico who like blew up on tiktok and she's like
00:41:56.860
uh the one the salmon the salmon girl okay salmon bowl miss salmon bowl she just got married congrats
00:42:02.440
emily um but her videos like i always compare this to her i'm like she doesn't talk in her videos yeah
00:42:09.120
ever like literally she her first like hundred videos she never said a word i just realized she
00:42:14.500
got non-stop hate for not talking no just in general like people are like i don't know i just don't like
00:42:19.840
her so my point is and like i talk not feeling her vibe i like yeah her vibes are all i always knew i
00:42:26.320
didn't like her it's like stupid shit like that and then for for me i like actively go and attack
00:42:30.960
men and they they have they obviously send me hate because i'm asking for it in that sense like i'm
00:42:36.540
inviting the smoke to my front fucking door yeah she's not she's she's fucking off and minding her
00:42:41.920
business she's making her salmon bowls and she's not bothering anybody and you guys still have
00:42:46.260
something to say about her so that's why i tell people you do whatever the fuck you want women and
00:42:50.700
fems and anyone in between do whatever the fuck you want because at the end of the day they're
00:42:54.240
going to complain no matter what so you might as well make money off of it yes you might as well
00:42:59.520
use it to your advantage yeah you literally we have one life to live or at least one life that
00:43:05.580
we'll remember yeah and while you're here you need to be living for you period not for random man in
00:43:13.920
buttfuck idaho that will never see you yeah in real life and will never say the things that he's saying
00:43:20.600
to you online in real life yeah that's the that's really be the gag for me you would never say this
00:43:27.040
to my face ever you would see me and start shaking in your motherfucking boobs pissing on yourself you
00:43:32.940
would never say that to me are you kidding those people would never say that to nikki minaj
00:43:36.980
like what i sure as fuck wouldn't i'll tell you that much look i don't i don't want to know what
00:43:44.800
comes after that no fucking way but people get so bold on the internet and it's just like
00:43:49.640
just shut up that's one thing i've really learned quickly on the internet even myself yeah shut up
00:43:55.240
sometimes you just gotta shut the fuck up and that's okay yeah and that's a superpower i wish
00:43:59.860
more people used truly we all have the ability and some of you don't use it enough just maybe i should
00:44:07.520
shut the fuck up forever entertain it maybe you should let it apply to yourself honestly maybe just
00:44:13.480
think about it just think about consider it yeah mull it over and i have do you get a lot of hate do
00:44:18.040
you ever get hate yes on on tiktok and stuff yeah yeah is it mostly on tiktok it's mostly on twitter
00:44:24.140
really oh twitter so bad i deleted twitter i'm about to twitter so bad i deleted that app it's really
00:44:30.180
mean it's just full of hate it really is it is a place full of hate and i often go looking for it
00:44:36.000
too because i'm just nosy and i want to know what people are saying about me and a lot of times it's
00:44:40.060
good things but a lot of times it's like i fucking hate this bitch yeah fuck baby tight
00:44:44.400
i didn't do nothing to nobody i didn't do nothing to y'all but people yeah i do get hate
00:44:52.480
it's really bad on twitter you just gotta log off yeah when i when i did that oscar thing again like
00:44:58.260
there was a girl that made like a thread about me she didn't tag me but somebody else did yeah
00:45:03.100
and it said like i get it like i get what she does and like i you know i do like understand
00:45:09.540
like why it's good but like i fucking hate this person she said that about me literally wrote that
00:45:14.880
out on twitter.com and posted it and then someone goes well i really like her because i think she's
00:45:20.520
funny and she's like doing something that's like for a purpose and she goes no i think she's so funny
00:45:25.720
and i do think it's important but i just fucking hate everything else about her that's what she wrote
00:45:31.080
out and then i go you don't know anything else about me outside of like my online persona like
00:45:39.060
like me being a fucking clown online is is literally all you know about me yeah so to say i just hate
00:45:45.240
everything else what's everything else elaborate elaborate and quickly thank you so much yeah it's
00:45:52.320
really sad that what the internet has done to people's minds yeah um just like kind of having
00:46:00.000
these parasocial relationships with people that they don't know yeah um whether it's a hateful one
00:46:05.160
or a loving one yeah like i really enjoy being able to be in contact with my my fans and my supporters
00:46:11.040
online so like that's why i'm always on live or like you know just being really interactive but
00:46:17.000
sometimes it gets a bit scary because it's like wait um icky i'm feeling uncomfortable
00:46:23.460
um you don't actually know me like that um i've talked about that too a lot i get i get that i don't
00:46:32.180
get it much from my fans though it's normally like from the haters yeah same the haters oh they be on me
00:46:38.060
they be all over me oh my god like white on rice they're very uh persistent yeah they're consistent
00:46:46.680
yes with me i feel like it's 98 percent men and then there's like two percent women in there
00:46:54.320
um and those women every time they write hate to me and it's like on some fuck shit i always like
00:47:00.180
write back i hope the man you're hoping sees this sees it and he calls you i hope he does peace and
00:47:07.340
love girl i hope you get that number did you get the guy did it work out
00:47:12.020
the one that you wanted so desperately yeah i hope he sees this babe i hope he does because some
00:47:19.160
women some women literally come into my comment section to like be awful um and they for some
00:47:26.200
reason think i'm never gonna see it i don't know why that is or they'll be like why even like if it's
00:47:31.020
men they're like why do you even waste your time responding to me because clearly you care and i'm
00:47:34.760
like but it's like you cared enough to leave the comment why can i not care enough to see the
00:47:40.560
comment and have a reaction to it am i not human like you especially me because that's my whole
00:47:45.540
platform like my platform you're walking into my den and literally poking me and you're you're scared
00:47:52.760
i ripped your arm off like you can't believe it because you wandered into my enclosure and i attacked
00:47:57.780
you yeah sounds like a you problem that's why i was like this is my whole brand yeah you bothering
00:48:03.080
people like tate like if she responds to you obviously you could be like oh i didn't think she was
00:48:07.940
gonna see this right but with me i didn't think that i see everything i see every single thing
00:48:13.520
i see everything and i save everything too because i'm a virgo to my core so i receipt keep like crazy
00:48:19.360
i used to do that but i think ever since i've deleted twitter my life has been much more peaceful
00:48:24.520
if anyone is out there like damn just like i'm jealous so much distress in your life try deleting twitter
00:48:30.940
or x whatever it's called now um try deleting it just for a little while even and see how your life
00:48:37.780
you know what i might take your advice girl yeah i was definitely clapping back at anyone who said
00:48:43.980
anything for a while and it's just exhausting it really is so tiring having to explain yourself
00:48:50.340
over and over again yeah to people that are dedicated to misunderstanding you so it's like
00:48:55.660
i am talking to a brick wall and it's a waste of my time that's why i'm on these bricks right now
00:49:01.240
that's why i said i'm just gonna tell you to suck my wiener and that's pretty much where it ends
00:49:05.080
yeah that's what i'm gonna do i'm tell you to eat my ass even though my ass
00:49:15.280
swiftly efficiently quickly i think that's the best way to handle stuff like that honestly
00:49:23.180
and suck it like you ugly suck on the stick like you ugly literally they wish honestly
00:49:30.620
the irony of that insult is that it's literally that would be a gift yes it would i have told
00:49:37.020
people like shut the fuck up eat my ass and they're like oh my god when okay gross never you made it
00:49:42.560
weird you could never we had a context and you took it away so now block never mind literally never
00:49:49.180
mind get the fuck out of my face taken back rescinded i know sometimes i tell people that
00:49:56.700
and i'm like and i bet you wish you could huh come on i don't spend my free time um like harassing
00:50:04.680
women that i'm not attracted to yeah me personally i don't do that yeah because if you don't like it
00:50:10.740
why are you here i said you know why you're here because you saw a picture of me or a video of me and
00:50:15.960
it made your pee pee wiggle a little bit and that's a personal problem you got to take up with
00:50:19.540
you yeah that's between you and god babe that's not has nothing to do with me you and god the man
00:50:25.280
that commented on that tiktok there you go he at at god and ask him why he did that to you that's
00:50:31.980
why i said you're losing to a fight to your own genetics you don't need to lose one to me too
00:50:38.580
okay so now that we're kind of rounding out the episode what would you say
00:50:45.540
is your best piece of advice for any young female or femme rapper that's like either currently trying
00:50:54.640
to rise up or trying to get in the game and trying to like make a name for their for themselves like
00:50:59.040
what would you say is your best piece of advice for them um i have so many pieces of advice i don't
00:51:05.440
think i can pick one so i'll just pick like my favorites um number one is to know who you are
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um if you don't know who you are right now figure that out before you start putting yourself out into
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the world um once you find out who you are don't like budge away from that like grow obviously evolve
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yeah we should all be evolving as human beings so obviously you're going to do that as an artist as
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well yeah but like don't all of a sudden follow this trend just because like everyone else is
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doing it yeah but like that's something that you at your core would never do um and also don't be too
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thirsty for success like with me i think i've always been very grateful for my journey which is why i've
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been doing this now for seven years yeah um and it's just been a constant like uphill climb it hasn't
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been something where i'm like running after like oh my god i have to go get signed yeah don't don't
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rush to get signed also that's a big piece of advice yeah um just like take the journey as it's going
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yeah keep moving obviously don't get complacent but don't be on dick to to try to get to the next place
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you know what i'm saying like just let things happen naturally yeah let it flow and listen to your gut
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and get a lawyer that's the best piece of advice right there too that's a sound piece of advice
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a logistical piece but very important too well thank you so much for coming on the show i adore you
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thank you for having me thank you all for watching this episode where can everybody find you you can
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find me everywhere at i'm baby tate that is the letter i the letter m b-a-b-y-t-a-t-e my new music
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fun period i love it so much thank you so much for coming on you're a legend thank you i'm happy to
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know you i can't wait to see your intentional and cosmic rise it's gonna be awesome i'm so happy to
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